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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. I'm Jemma Spake and welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Psychology of Your Twenties, the podcast where we talk through

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Speaker 1: the biggest changes, moments, and transitions of our twenties and

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Speaker 1: what they mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. Welcome back to the podcast. It is

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Speaker 1: so great to have you here, back for a little

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Speaker 1: special edition bonus episode talking about some crazy news. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure all of you. I hope you guys know this

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Speaker 1: by now, but the Psychology of Your Twenties is officially

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Speaker 1: on Netflix. All of this happened so fast. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get to tell you guys the story. I tell you

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Speaker 1: guys everything. I didn't get to share the juicy details

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Speaker 1: and I want to share the see details. And I

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Speaker 1: didn't really get to address how this is going to

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Speaker 1: change things for the podcast. Spoiler alert, It's not really

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Speaker 1: going to change much. But this is just such a

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Speaker 1: monumental moment for the Psychology of Your Twenties, and each

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Speaker 1: of you have been there for whether you've been here

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Speaker 1: for a month, whether you've been here for almost five years,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels weird for something so

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Speaker 1: huge to happen and to not give you guys a

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes look at I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: means to get a Netflix show, like what that process

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Speaker 1: looks like, and just how I've been feeling as well.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a huge personal change as well as a

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Speaker 1: professional change and a change for us. So yeah, this Sunday,

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Speaker 1: this bonus episode, I thought I'd just sit down back

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Speaker 1: where it all began, in bed in my house and

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Speaker 1: dish and tell you guys what's been happening and how

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Speaker 1: this came to be. So yes, if you didn't know,

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Speaker 1: if this is the first time you're hearing this, the

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Speaker 1: College of Your Twenties is officially a Netflix podcast. Let

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Speaker 1: me get one thing out of the way. That does

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Speaker 1: not mean we're going anywhere. The only thing it changes

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Speaker 1: is basically that our episodes are no longer on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Our video episodes are no longer on YouTube. But if

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Speaker 1: you only ever listen to audio, this is basically just

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Speaker 1: a bonus for you. Now you can you can watch

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Speaker 1: it on like the most popular streaming platform in the world,

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Speaker 1: but you can also listen to it on Spotify, listen

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Speaker 1: to it on Apple wherever you're listening right now, and

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Speaker 1: nothing really changes Another thing to address. I have had

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Speaker 1: a lot of messages from people in Australia or in

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Speaker 1: Thailand or in Italy being like I can't see it.

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Speaker 1: That's because as of right now, it is only in

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Speaker 1: the US and Canada, and I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: their plans are to extend it. To be honest, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of out of the loop. But as soon as

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Speaker 1: that changes, I will let you guys know. We are

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Speaker 1: still posting like clips and stuff, so if you want

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Speaker 1: to see what the new studio looks like, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: You can find that on Instagram, and we're still posting

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Speaker 1: like some shorts to YouTube. But basically, nothing much is changing.

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Speaker 1: This is just just an extra way of, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of the podcast being distributed and being able to connect

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Speaker 1: with you guys. I absolutely love our set. I think

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Speaker 1: You guys don't care about that. I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you the story of how this freaking happened, because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone talk about what it means to

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Speaker 1: be on Netflix, and like how people approach you with that.

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Speaker 1: How do you find out that that's going to be

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Speaker 1: something that happened. So let me take you back, actually

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because when I was like a kid, somebody

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Speaker 1: so crazy to me. But Netflix is interested in signing

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Speaker 1: absolutely what is happening. No promises, but they're interested and

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Speaker 1: told obviously tom my boyfriend. I told my dad, but

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Speaker 1: then at night I literally sat down, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: But I was like, oh my god, I well this

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Speaker 2: And I actually, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I actually made the if you follow me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: That is like my most successful post of all time.

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Speaker 1: that is how you like, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: I heard nothing. I didn't hear anything for like I

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Speaker 2: It's not happening. You know, why would they want me

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Speaker 1: I was just like I'm not a celebrity, not really

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Speaker 1: I don't live in the US, Like I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: You know. It just didn't occur to me, right, And

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Speaker 1: To fly from Melbourne to London, I get this message

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Speaker 1: and they get this emil from my lawyer being like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this Netflix deal? And I was like, oh my god, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I can just keep recording here. This is fine.

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Speaker 1: We go on holiday with my family and then on

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Speaker 1: the first of January, New Year's Day, I get this email,

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Speaker 1: and this email is like, so we're launching on the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth of jen We need all your episodes for January.

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Speaker 1: And I'm in Stockholm and me and Tom are about

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Speaker 1: to go to Paris for two weeks to be like

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Speaker 1: that is where you can find it. And until next time,

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