WEBVTT - Angels 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.439 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.240 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.280 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:10.720 These are our stories. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:31.640 Done done, Yay, that's messed up an sv podcast. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:33.640 I'm Liza Trigger. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.680 And I'm Kara Klank And every week it's SVU recaps 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:45.000 true crime, deep dives and interviews with fun people. But 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:50.159 first it's occasionally freaking out about what's going on in 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.560 the world, et cetera. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.120 Catching up. I don't know what's happening. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.800 This is, you know, obviously we record like not the 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.040 day before the episodes come out, So this is the 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.160 day after the election here in LA and we don't 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.800 have the final results yet, but nothing's looking good. I mean, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.240 I don't understand why we can't have nice things, like 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.240 why can't we You guys got a mom Donnie we 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.240 just wanted am. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.440 I mean, but Mom Donnie is an angel, but like 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.720 just not Spencer Pratt. It's like two, Like, yes, I 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.640 think you would have been fine if it was just 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.320 like a sewer rat I think is better than this guy. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.440 And I can't believe there's that many people in la 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.360 including a hairstylist we know that are like, yeah, he's 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:34.240 the he's smart. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.040 So do these people think that they're so stupid that he's. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.160 Better than them? I he's the option, Like, what is it? 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.200 What is it? Did they do too many mushrooms at 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.039 Joshua Tree? 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.000 What is it? 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.040 I think they're like, well, they're all rich I assume, yes, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.280 regious ciders. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.880 Mostly it's mostly rich Westsiders, and they like hate on 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.800 house people and think that he's got the same views 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.320 as them. At the same time, it's like an embarrassingly 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.800 low number of people that have voted, Like I'm looking 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.080 at it. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.200 But there's also a lot of people that are like 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.360 me and have my beliefs. I still wouldn't want them 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:10.600 to lead my city. I know. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.360 I don't understand why that I want to have a 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:14.440 beer with him. I don't know. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.400 We feel the same way about the homeless, like, okay, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.200 can he read? 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:18.680 Can he? 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:19.080 Like? 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.079 I don't understand. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.000 I mean, anti intellectualism has been an issue for a while, 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.520 and I learned that because of Friendly Bullet's in twenty eleven. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.920 But yes, it's like how much further anti smart? Like 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.600 I don't get why we don't want people smarter than 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.160 us leading. I don't get that. Yeah, people have so 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:39.240 much to say about Nithia. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.079 It's like she like went to Harvard and mit, she's 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.160 an urban planner, Like she has more experience than a 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.480 guy who sold crystals. I don't know, can't we talk 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.000 about this. We've talked about this guy a lot. I 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.480 just like think it's also just sad, Like I'm looking 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.760 at the election results that have been updated as of 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.200 seven am that day after the election. I mean only 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.800 it's like the votes are like four hundred thousand people 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.080 in a city of millions, Like they're really just aren't 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:07.720 that many, and like only sixty percent of the votes 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:08.400 have been tallied. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.240 But like I'll be surprised. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.960 If like the fact that it's even this close and 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.519 there is insane. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:21.560 It's insane, I know. So I think I think that, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.880 like if it does end up being Bass versus Pratt, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:31.760 she'll win. But then I get Hillary Trump PTSD because 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.320 like we said, how could this possibly happen? You know, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.480 and now it's like literally the exact same thing. And 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.920 people hate Bass, I would say more than they hated 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.360 Hillary because she's already been the mayor, Like she's the incumbent, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.120 so people don't like what she's been doing. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.040 Oh so anyway, it's annoying. It's sad. A lot of 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.760 people were texting me that they were freaking out. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.200 But I also don't even know how he has the 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.880 money to run, oh because he's being funded like most 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.800 from people outside of California or LA, like it's Republican 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.640 people they like love to see LA look stupid and 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.640 like suffer because we're like a symbol of. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.919 I don't know, liberalism. Yeah, shit, it's crazy. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.840 Yeah, California should really stop funding the rest of the country. Yeah, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.040 I think California should stop sending their happy cow cheese 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.680 and stop funding. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.080 I think to stop helping. I think we should sustge. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.240 I do too. I think we should succeed. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.440 If we're the seventh largest economy in the world, let's 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:35.800 go on our let's go solo. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.719 Oh my god, someone there's a comment. He's always annoying. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.960 He's just a friend of a friend. So I try 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:47.919 to be open and like, you know, see, yeah, like 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.080 I want to try to understand. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.360 He's just so fucking annoying. But he lives in Brooklyn. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.159 Everywhere to live in New York is fine, but he 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.320 was like, when you live in Manhattan, like I live 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.680 in Brooklyn, it feels nice, Like it feels nice to 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.799 like leave and be like I'm in my little home. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.320 Do you get that? Like do you ever? 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:08.960 And I go, no, I'm in the center of the 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.160 universe and I walk home from all of my spots. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:12.960 And then he felt stupid. I'm like, I don't know 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:13.760 what you're trying to do. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.080 I don't hate Brooklyn, but you're trying to make it 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.000 seem terrible that I live, like and probably, yeah, I 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.920 was just like so annoying to me, so annoying to me. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.640 I just like to leave and be like in my 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.000 quiet little pocket. And it's like, okay, I like to 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.359 see Spike Lee on my street, you dumb bitch. And 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.360 then when I was like, well, I walk home every day, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.080 he was like, oh fuck. And it's like, yeah, I 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.080 don't know why you're trying to compete. You will always lose. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.720 You will always lose, Like I don't get it. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.240 Yeah this way, where does Where did you go? 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.400 And then he goes, but don't you want to like 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.479 live close to your friends? I go, I mean people 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.480 want to come here but it's like it doesn't kill 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.039 me to go to to Brooklyn, Like no, it's like 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.240 three stops on the d R end, Like what are 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:59.440 in Brooklyn? It's you know, he bothers me bleep the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.119 name came see but like, you know, my good friend 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.120 like fucking loves I. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.479 You think it's so crazy to act like you are 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.200 leaving the hustle bustle of Manhattan to go to like 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.040 what uh quiet hamlet in upstate New York when you're 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.960 going to Brooklyn, Like it's also part of the city, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.599 Like what it's like so a part of it? 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.279 I go to dinner. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.920 But my friend's he's like, don't you don't you want 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.839 to be close like to your friends, And I'm like 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:29.240 I don't. I that's irrelevant. We're in a city. I 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.400 have friends off the l that's one stop. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.520 Like yeah, I lived on the Upper West Side and 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.359 no one lived around. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.080 The point is what are you trying to do? What 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:40.360 are you trying to do? 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.640 That's where I'm coming from, Like what what game are 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.080 you trying to play? 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:51.080 The Brooklyn is more ideal than Manhattan game, I gues sure, and. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.800 Then you lose because I know what you want and 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.600 it's like you will never have the life I have, 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.800 you know what I mean, Like you'll never like, I 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.720 don't know, you'll never walk home from your spots. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.840 I guess like it's no. But I also would. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.160 Never act like this because Brooklyn's awesome and I love 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.159 my friend's apartments and I love going to places there, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.640 and it's I don't see it as this thing, but 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.040 I just like, why. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.960 Are we at dinner and you're trying to like do 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:16.760 something weird. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.240 I was just thinking, I just yeah from Spencer Well, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.120 I was thinking, wow, I just love mom, Donnie, And 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:27.080 then I was like this, mother, I just like separating myself. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:27.880 Don't you feel that? 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.120 And it's like, well, if I did, I would do 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:30.880 it because it's not that hard to live in Brooklyn, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.280 like you know what I mean, Like if I wanted 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.440 to separate, I could, but that's not what I want 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.440 because I like to walk downstairs. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:39.520 Yeah. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.280 Well, I don't even understand the amount of dogs I 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.840 saw today and like so many cute Well I was reading, 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.760 so I was reading at the outside the coffee shop. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.880 I would say fifteen just like yeah, fifteen dogs like 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.760 top line dogs, English bulldogs, Weeni dogs. One sat next 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.440 to me while the guy went into the coffee shop 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:59.440 and he let the dog sit with me. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.680 I mean it was just like heaven secret life of 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:06.520 pets happening for Oh my god, like lives I have 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:07.400 secret lives. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.800 I love it. Wait, I really want to see Stop 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.560 that Train. Well crazy. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.320 I was sitting at my coffee shops uh last week, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.560 and the writer of that movie walked in. She's like 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.720 with she's dating a man. I know, like I know 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.360 both of them, but like they both walked in. I 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.280 was like, oh my god. And they were there for 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.200 the New York premiere and I can't. Yeah, I'm definitely 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.800 gonna see it. Of course you're going to see it. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.240 In what world would you not have seen it? 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:35.480 No? 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:35.880 I know. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.360 It's just like it comes out like the day I 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.240 leave for a cross country road trip, and so I 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:41.760 have to. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.160 Like, I'm sure you're gonna have to leave your kids 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.240 in a hotel at one day. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.839 Yeah, we're gonna be at like the Grand Canyon and 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.400 I'm gonna be like looking up an AMC. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:50.360 It's gonna be. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.280 I still haven't seen Devil Wor's Prota two. I have 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.320 to see Obsession. I want to see back rooms. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.320 You still haven't seen Devil Wors Prota two. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.040 No, I've been busy reading, well not even I have 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.319 a lot of jobs. I work, I do show yeahs, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.959 I try. I just like haven't had the time to go. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.880 I would love it, But I also now have an 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.800 urge to see Obsession even more. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:19.440 White Why because it's enticing I don't know what. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:20.240 I don't know. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.000 Obsession that's amazing and what my and I've been hearing 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:24.920 that it's amazing, and I've actually heard it's better than 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.200 back rooms if you can only pick one. It's about 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.439 like going to obsession, according to my friend. But I 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.680 just wondered when you said even more. I thought maybe 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.720 there was like something that you heard about it or 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.719 something recently that made you want to go see it more. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.760 No, I think just the element of surprise, you know 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:41.160 what I mean. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.760 Devil Wars proud Of for me is nostalgia and then 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.360 I have a friend in it, so that's exciting and 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:47.840 that should trump a surprise. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:48.960 But I guess not. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.960 When I saw Mortal Kombat too ahead of it, It's like, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.760 I don't know what's happening to me. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.200 The yeah, because you saw Mortal Kombat That's why I 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.560 was confused. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.400 Because I didn't want to see the Devils it in 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.440 Vegas in a strip. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.280 Mall right, yeah, I want to see it in New 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:04.920 York City. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.320 Oh my god. My niece sent me a photo and 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.160 she's like, can I have this dress? And it's the 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.080 dress I wore for like my eighth grade graduation, and 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.960 it's so cute that my clothes level. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:16.280 Ye. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.520 Yeah, that's really cute. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.760 Yeah, because you know, for a while she was like 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.040 everything you have is disgusting except your big sweatshirts, and 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.880 then now she's like, can I have this dress? 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.360 And then like, yeah, it's so exciting. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.640 I was just looking up the writer from Stop That Train, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.959 and I don't know who either of these writers are, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.520 but I'm seeing that Simone is listed as a star. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.640 Did I even tell you in my when I was 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.880 telling you the story about my night at Fat Slut 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.360 that I was just talking to somebody for like five 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.920 minutes and it was Simone and I like just didn't 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.800 recognize her, damn. And we were just talking and then 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.439 I like turned around and my friend goes, I think 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.280 she like won drag race, and I go, is that 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.000 fucking Simone? She was yeah, You've been talking to her 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.120 for like five minutes. I was like, I turned back 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.840 around and I was like, Simone, I'm sorry. I was like, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.480 we've met before. I can't believe I didn't say like 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.760 I didn't like realized it was you. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.319 She was like, it's not no word. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.600 Like I was like, we met at the Bros premiere remember, 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.640 but like she was like in her boy drag, so 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.600 it was hard to you know, and looked different, has 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.400 like a different hairstyle, and I was like very thrown off, 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.040 but exciting that she's a lead in this movie. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.120 What other queens are in it? I'm orange yet? Who else? 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:38.120 Roc Klane, Jane and Jimbo performed at like pier Something 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.079 was having a heated rivalry Pride Night. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:42.400 Jujub's in it. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:50.160 Oh okay, So Brooklyn Heights goes by brock hah on 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.640 on IMDb. So interesting to not go by your drag 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.679 name on IMDb, because some people do, most people do. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:58.280 Yeah. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.959 There was also this drag queen who is on with 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.480 one of the queen it's all mixing together, but she 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.920 was kind of shading on all the queens that do 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.400 boy drag and aren't dressing up for their podcasts and stuff. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.480 But then other people are like, that's the dream, Like 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.520 you're so famous, you can be in your boy drag 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.480 And so I thought that was interesting and I'm not 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.960 a part of the culture, so I could care do 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.080 whatever you want. Oh my god, did you see the 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.280 clip from Langston and David Borri's podcasts and Bob's on it. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.280 When they're talking about hot rappers. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.280 No, She's basically like, Langston, do you think you're a 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:33.959 good looking guy? 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.000 How good looking do you think you are? 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:36.200 What? 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:37.040 Are you a six? 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.600 And He's like no, I'm like an E And like 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.920 they're debating how hot and then Bob's like, do you 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.079 think you're hotter than everyone in this room? And David's like, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.439 what the fuck are you trying to do at this podcast? 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.960 But it's like very very fun and I love Bob. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.800 So, guys, just buddy that you've said that, because Luscio's 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.200 Massacre was on Bob's podcast and was like shading people 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.240 that go out and boy drag and Bobby that's who 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:58.959 I'm talking about. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.480 That's the tiff that I see. I watch ye, and 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.760 so I was like curious at your point of. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:04.280 View about that. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.199 Oh, I mean, like I think that what Lush just 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.360 was talking about, Like you know Tricksy and Katya do 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:11.760 their podcast. I think when you get to a certain 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.400 level of fame, Yeah, that's the fucking dream. People recognize 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.400 you and whatever you're wearing, like, and that's the dream. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.800 And getting in drag is so fucking hard and painful. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.880 Yeah, Bob's book is every bookstore I go to, like 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:25.559 Front and Center. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.920 It's incredible. Oh, really really cool. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.720 Wait, we gotta wait, but did you see the clip 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:37.280 of Bory and Langston and Bob talking about who's the 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:38.080 hottest rapper? 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.400 Know who? 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.920 They say? Oh, it was hilarious. It's like one of 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.600 the most hilarious conversations. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.040 Bory is like Bory's like, I think I'm gonna go. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.400 With method Man, and like method Man is hot, and 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.360 like Bob is like method Man, Like Bob cannot believe it. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.800 He's gagged and he's like, wait, I think I got 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.679 to look up what method Man looks like. And then 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.680 they never like yeah, okay, and then it was just hilarious, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.199 like I can't, like I really can't. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:11.840 I feel like I guess Magic is cute but not hot. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:18.440 Chance yes, And then Langston or I think, Langston said 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.320 not jay Z No, No, no, he said, oh why 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.320 am I blinking? Why am I blinking? Oh my god, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.000 hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Tupac's hot? 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.360 Does it have to be alive? No, I don't think so. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.280 I was thinking about Tupac also, or but I would 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.480 want to have sex with fifty cent. But I don't 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.480 know if he's the top hot, but he's and he's 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.640 like so so jacked asap asap. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.280 Rocky is hot. Yeah, that's who Langston said. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:47.920 Langston was like Ace and then they were like, okay, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.520 now we can all get on the same page. Like, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.640 now we can all get on the same page. No, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.080 I think it's Tupac for me. Yeah, I was trying 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.080 to think. I mean, like, I just love Luda so much. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.000 I don't think Luda's like necessarily like the hottest. I 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.400 just like love his actual He's a little guy. He's 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.960 a little guy. I mean, I think Chance is pretty 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.440 little and he wasn't I said, he's cute, not hot. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:11.440 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.480 I also only know like seven rappers, so this isn't fair. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.400 Like I'm looking at a list of rappers and I'm like, 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.160 I don't know these people. Oh yeah, like I don't 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.000 know who. I mean, Cardi b is the hottest. Yeah, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.120 they were talking about dudes. They were doing dudes. But 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.480 oh speaking well and bob best friend Matteo. It was 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.040 announced as we're recording today. I already got my tickets 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.560 ahead of time, so there was no issues. But Matteo 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.560 Lane is Billy Flynn in Chicago the musical on Broadway for. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.040 I already sent him a text in Italian to congratulate him. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:50.600 Yeah, I'm sure he loved that. Yeah, that's like so exciting. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.640 Yeah, I'm really fucking he's perfect and we got I 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.520 got orchestra Rosy, so. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.040 He's gonna be able to like see you. I hope. No, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:15:59.960 it's to the side. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.040 I don't think he can focused on the audio, you know, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.120 it's like pandemonium. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.200 Maybe at the end, I don't know. I was debating. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:06.880 I had a limit for how much I wanted to 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.400 spend because I want to see it a few times, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.800 and it was like front row mezzanine and her clothes, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.360 and I was like, I think I'd rather see my 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:13.880 friend close. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:19.840 Yeah. Do we know does do it? Does? Yeah? Chris Roxy, Yeah, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.720 it's Christa Rodriguez. I think that's right. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.200 Yeah, And she was on Caleb's podcast and so that's 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.920 how I knew about her and I loved their episode. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.640 So I'm super excited that it's not a Mormon housewife 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.200 and an actual Broadway star because I saw it with 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.360 arionomatics and like fine, fun whatever, but like, I'm excited 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.680 to see this like actual Broadway superstar. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.880 Oh and she was in Smash, which is hilarious. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.440 Okay, So today, while you're listening to this, it is 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:54.200 my mom's birthday. So I am like just scrolling Instagram 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.160 and I see a post kind of shitting on the 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.200 Target Pride collection and like the things that they're selling, 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.360 and someone's videotaping this thing and going, is this really 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.760 what you're fucking selling? Target? This is so stupid, And 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.879 it's because they're uncultured. It is two little birds in 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.080 a boat and they're dressed like the ending of the 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.840 movie Some Like It Hot, which is my mom's number 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:22.600 one favorite movie. So I get to gift her like 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.480 little cute birds dressed as Jack Lemon and whoever that 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.000 other actor is in the end of the movie, like 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.240 the famous scene, Like, well, nobody's perfect and there's a 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.679 little boat, and I feel like my mom is gonna 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:38.560 lose her mind. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:39.720 And I'm so excited. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.439 Wait, you said they're little ducks, they're little birds. Are 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.800 like little birds here. I'll send you the link because 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.200 they're like so fucking cute. But I didn't know why 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:48.760 I was. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.679 I also love that somebody trying to like shit on 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.480 the Target Pride collection brought you to spending more money 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:56.959 at Target. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:57.560 But I don't. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.720 But I don't know the references of the other birds, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.119 Like there's a bunch, there's a lot of birds in this. Okay, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.359 let me go to the here. I just sent you 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.119 the link to the sun like a hot birds. You 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.000 can look at it too, Gay, that should take me 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.359 to I'm gonna dop. My mom's gonna lose her mind. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.000 Like there's it was hard not to buy me one too. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.560 But I know I don't need them. I don't need it. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.240 I mean, I really would like you to film a 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.080 reaction video. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.080 Well, she might be confused. No, she'll get it right away. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.359 There's no way we watch it. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.439 She's watched it for Oh the little birds in the 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.320 boat Okay, okay, how do I get to the rest 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:35.280 of the pride birds here. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.760 Just put pride Birds in the search. That's what I did. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.080 But yeah, so I don't know the other references, but 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.200 I just love that someone was like, what the fuck 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.000 this is stupid? And then it's like it's it's truly 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.680 so important, and it's like I always just saw it 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.040 as a movie we all loved, and then reading my 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:59.720 gay history books, like learning how like radical this movie 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.720 really was at its time, you know, and like yeah, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.159 just saying and this end and so then for it 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.600 to like be part of this collection. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.480 But I do not shop at Target. I mean I have. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.800 I have, Yeah, honestly, I boycotted for a while and all. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.040 But also I've heard people say that where they live 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:21.760 in places. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.200 That are like more rural or. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.360 Like there's like Target is one of the only places 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.359 where it's like safe for like a queer person to work, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.800 or like a person that is like a person of color, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.960 Like I've heard people say in the area where I live, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.439 Target is the best place for me to work, the 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.160 safest place for me to work. And if everybody boycotts it, 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.600 they go away, and then where do we work. So 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.480 I think there's a lot to both sides of the uh, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.400 like the boycott argument in that situation. So I did 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.240 boake up for a while, and then I just go 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.240 back sometimes for a couple of things. I mean, honestly, 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.200 it is where I get like clothes for my kids, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.200 Like I just it's the cheapest place to buy clothes 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.680 that you can get shredded like that's but I also 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.439 thrift from my kids. I do do use clothes. We 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.480 go shout out to the green Bean and Eagle Rock. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.639 If you live in LA, You've got to go to 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:12.760 green Bean for used kids clothes and they have new 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.840 gifts as well. But they have great consignment kids. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.920 But yeah, so if you're if you want to give 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.560 it some pride birds, some pride birds, they're cute at fine. 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.320 I just can't believe it. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.960 I I can't stumble upon something so fucking perfect for 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.480 your mom on like the days before her birthday because. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.639 In my head, I go, I think me flying home's 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.200 birthday gifts enough. But then now I'm not at a 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.960 couple of pirds because I wasn't going to force it, 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.639 you know, but I'm like so excited. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.119 Yeah, oh my god, I love that. Let's get started. 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:51.440 Sht's episode. The episode this oh my God. Today's episode 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.080 what a wild one. As usual. 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.439 You can go to That's Messed Up Live or the 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.040 link in our Instagram bio at That's Messed Up Pod 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:03.640 to get to links for Lisa's tour dates, for our 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.200 merch our Louise Lewis Lewis Louis is a perfect summer 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.879 T shirt a nice soft Carolina blue. And you can 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:16.440 always join our Patreon as well for uh book reviews, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.160 Twilight reviews, interviews with fun people, talking sbu We're doing 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.159 all kinds of shit. I actually have a topic I 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.200 really want to bring up with our next Patreon guests, 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:30.359 but let's get started with today's episode. 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:37.800 Okay, we're doing a classic, a big one interwebs. I mean, 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.919 I've seen this one so many times and I was 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:41.719 still like, wait, who's the worst? 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.840 Who's the guy? I know, who's the Wait he's the guy? 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.879 No, they got hit, Like I really was on the 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:49.040 edge of my seat. 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.160 I was also kind of watching this one, going when 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.639 is Rosie Perez gonna show up? 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.520 Because I think I was thinking about that episode a 0:21:55.600 --> 0:22:02.800 different NMBLA. Yeah, so, but this one is wild, and 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.920 I also just came across some really crazy information doing 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:07.480 the research. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.480 So okay, all right, well we'll get started. So Angels, 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.320 it's that's what it is. Angels. Oh my god, guess 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.959 who's in Angels in the Outfield. Just for our future 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:21.320 movie games. It's fucking Adrian Brodie's in it. But someone 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.800 else that's like insane that I'm like, oh, this is 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:29.560 gonna Oh Matthew McConaughey. Really I cannot wait for them 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.919 to come up in my movie game because usually for 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:35.560 Matthew McConaughey, I get a lot of points when I 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:36.040 use sing. 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.040 People don't really know who's in sing. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.720 Sing too as well, correct, but it has to hit. 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.280 But Angels in the Outfield I think is going to 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.359 be huge for me. But anyways, Angels, that's where we're at, 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:55.359 Season four, episode six, November one, two thousand and two. Okay, 0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.880 day after Halloween, people were hungover, I must see TV. Thursday, 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.119 we're at the airport. But this this actually kills me. 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.560 And every time I thought I figured it out, another 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.720 element did not make sense. So there's a bus with 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.080 under luggage and so it looks like a mix between 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:13.840 a Greyhound and a megabus, but it could also be 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.400 a shuttle for the airport, but it hit traffic, there 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.919 were delays. Sorry to get everyone stuck, and to get 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.280 stuck in these details. But then it's like, what bus 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.520 pulls up right at the terminal, so I'm like, this 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.040 has to be a shuttle, But then like they had 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.040 their luggage to put on, so some are missing flights 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.680 but it's empty. And then later they say it's a 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.920 drop off, like they really did not get this bus 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:41.080 thing going in the cold open Nothing made sense because 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.360 I'm because if I'm landing and the bus is late 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.320 to pick me up to the cargo or whatever, it's 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.560 like it's not that big of a deal, like maybe 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.280 I'm late to a meet or whatever. But it's like 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.120 it's not the same as missing a flight. And these 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.000 people whatever. The driver's wearing a tie, he's very nice. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.959 He's like, I'm sorry, wrong stuff, YadA, YadA. So then 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.040 they're putting their luggage onto the bus all it's all empty, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:08.000 so I don't get it. But there is also an 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.560 unconscious young boy in the luggage, so that kind of 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.600 takes over everything. They can online one one JFK terminal five, 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.760 So we are at the airport. A nurse runs to 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.000 help barely breathing nopoul. Stabler's on the scene and he's 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.160 meeting Queen's s View Detective Katie Moore. He's looking hot 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.639 as fuck, and but there is a dead child. The 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.400 child is dead. He's like nine or ten a Latino boy. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.639 Carbon monoxide poisoning, they're guessing, so like he might have 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.160 died just in there while the bus ran. 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.200 That sucks. We meet Melinda. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.880 She explains why it's a sex crime, and it's because 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.320 there's blood and fluids in the underwear and bruising and 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.000 lacerations on his body. 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.120 So this is really sad. And he is annoying though, like. 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.720 He's the Queen's like he doesn't want the case and 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.679 the Queen's girls like Lisimbro and you know he got 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.440 picked up at Manhattan straight to drop off. What drop 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.520 off if there was no luggage and there was no people, 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:03.440 so what drops. 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.800 Right to terminal five? Baby? I have no idea, Like 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.400 I am livid. 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.400 Maybe it's because I spends so much time at airport, 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.680 so like from the jump, I'm like a bus would 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:14.639 never be able to get. 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.600 This close to the terminal. 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.520 But also the fact that there's no luggage underneath, Like 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.240 don't they just open it and it's empty except for 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.520 the boy exactly, so they should have dropping suitcases and 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:26.440 then they find him. 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.480 No, because then later they're like absolutely not, no one 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.960 did it until he came to the airport, and it's like, okay, 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:33.920 then what it was the drop off? Like you guys 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.280 are fucking around and it doesn't make sense to me. 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.520 So this poor kid, uh, but she goes assaults it 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.840 on your turf, he's all yours. She walks away, Melinda 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.560 zips the kid in a body bag and it's like, 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.480 I don't think we needed that in the cold open. 0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:52.120 But it is credits time and now it's called trans 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.679 Bird Bus Terminal and basically the bus was drops off 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.320 at eleven last night and then at seven am the 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.520 bus was taken and the bus was empty, so I 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.879 guess no drop off. Benson and Stabler are together and 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:06.760 we're at a pixie cut stage but not like the 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.320 straight up shortest. There's like a golden little swoop, but 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.720 it's fucking short. There is a hole in the fence. 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.520 Why hole is hard for me? Like I really always 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:19.120 put a w always, yeah, Like I don't know. They 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.440 both make sense to me visually, like the other ones 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.680 fuck me up. But visually I'm like, that's a hole. 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.680 But then when I delete the W, I go, no, that. 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:26.120 Is a hole. 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:34.719 This makes more sense. It's so fun that it says fun. 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.200 It does trip me up. I'll be honest, it trips 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.200 me up. Oh my god, guess whose book I saw 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:43.720 at the bookstore? Bought it immediately. Joe Firestone. Oh did 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.200 she had a book? Yeah, it came out a while ago. 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:47.880 I think it's I don't even think it's that new. 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.280 But it was in a staff. But you know, I've 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.960 been hitting up the bookstores and I read it. Yeah, 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.479 and I saw it and it was a thrill. I 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:55.200 like seeing. 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.440 People I knows books out about. It's kind of it's 0:26:58.520 --> 0:26:59.240 kind of exciting. 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.359 So anyways, oh god again with the bus, So seven 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.480 am left for JFK. Sabler sees something under the wheel. 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.800 There's a teddy bear and the teddy bear is not weathered. 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.360 There is dried blood, and there are security king. 0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:13.240 I'm sorry, So the. 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:17.800 Teddy bear went from Manhattan to JFK with a teddy 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.480 bear in the wheel. 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.840 Well, like I said, I'm not buying that either, Like 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.120 I said, like, who wrote this one? 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:26.479 Why not? 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:31.720 Just like have it be discovered at the bus terminal 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.080 in Manhattan. They open it up, there's the boy. All 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.280 of this JFK seems unnecessary. Oh, I think it's because 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:39.800 of the trafficking eventually. 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:40.440 You know what I mean? Yeah? 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.639 Maybe, yeah, but no, that doesn't even make sense either. 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.000 Why wasn't the teddy bear just in it with him? 0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:47.040 Why is it in the wheel? 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.160 Well, it makes no sense going but it's also not weathered, 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.080 so if it wasn't stuck in the tires, it would 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.440 be so weathered. But there's security cameras. So it's eleven 0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.600 forty seven. There are two kids. There's an older kid 0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.560 in a little kid with the bear. We need to 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.680 find the older kids, so we're at center precinct. Craigan 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.800 munch Finn joins Stabler for a chat. What are they 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.320 gonna do? So they gotta call the bus cops, set 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.800 alerts for the older kid. Olivia's at missing Person's. Cragan 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.280 sends Stablers to the more to see if they can 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.600 identify the boy and that might help find who this 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.320 other boy is. And we find out blood on the 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.600 teddy Bear is type AB same as the victim. I 0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:26.400 don't even know my type of blood. Should I figure 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.000 it out? Yeah, I mean it's just a quick message to. 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.080 My doc or like, no, they're gonna make you take 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:33.679 a blood. 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.000 You can like order a blood test I think on 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:40.280 like Amazon, and it's like a or something i'd rather not. 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:41.400 Yeah, but I. 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.320 Don't think your doctor just I don't think your doctor 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.080 will like have it written down because it's like more 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.080 of a surgery thing. 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.320 Yeah, I gotta figure this out. I'm curious. I'm curious. 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:53.720 So soundproofing glass is what she thinks cut his arm. 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.000 It's not glass glass. And this is not a street kid. 0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.920 This kid's well nourished and a lot of money put 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.400 into his mouth and he's disease free. So we meet 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.360 a forensic dentist guy and he explains their smooth and 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.440 visible braces and like so many things that adds up 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.280 to its ten grand. And this is season four and 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.160 so implant that I'm saying it's a lot. The implants 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.080 are custom, so that means there'll be a manufacturer I 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.520 d and we'll we'll find the lab that ordered it. 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.120 So the lab is back positive for semen and suture 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:30.960 scars on his anus, So like that's fucked up. Someone 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.520 has been violently abusing this kid for a long time. 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.040 Benson gets a flip phone call and they might have 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.520 the purp, which I guess is the older kid, but 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.280 it's obviously not the older kid. And I hate when 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.960 we have to like suspend or disbelief, you know what 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.440 I mean, Like, I'm sorry, our characters would never treat 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.680 this boy like a purp, and they know that he's 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.560 not the one suturing this little kid's asshole, Like what 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:53.800 the fuck are you talking about? 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.360 Oh my god, yeah. 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.880 Yeah, Like this kid's obviously abused to why would he 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.560 be running through a fe Like it's so fucking annoying 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.360 to me the way they end up treating this kid. 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.880 But mun Shinfinn are talking to the most helpful bus 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.720 driver I've ever seen. She's giving them all the information 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:16.840 she can. And there's also another like driver who matched 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.520 the clothing there was running and so they're gonna sniff 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.560 him out. So German Shepherd gets to work, and that 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.680 leads to a tarmac. Cop cars are flying, Benson and Stabler, 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.000 the bus, cops, the dog, everyone is looking. He's behind luggage. 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.640 He starts running. He's so dirty and he's screaming. He 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.800 wants to go home. They tell him to calm down. 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.560 He's losing his mind, but they have to bring him back. 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.920 So again they're like so mean to him. Obviously, this 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.360 boy is a victim. They're like, you're a killer and 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.200 you're in big trouble. It's like he's sweaty and fucked 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.360 up and so dirty. So he goes deport me and 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.120 then they're like, you fucking killed Jose, and he's like, wait, 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.720 Jose's dead. The boy didn't know, and you could tell 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.200 he doesn't know. This kid also deserves a fucking Emmy. 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.920 I can't believe he didn't get nominated there for him. 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:02.200 Very sadly, the. 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.800 Actor that played that kid died when he was like 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.880 nineteen in a plane crash. 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:14.760 No my, yes, that's so fun, so sad. He's really town. 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.560 He's so good. When he was like crying, I was like, 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.120 this guy's so good. So I look him up and 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.959 I'm like, oh no, damn yeah, oh god. And so 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.880 they call Jose your little friend, so rude. He's obviously 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.000 just straught. So anyways, he starts talking. His name's are 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:33.920 Nesto Diaz. 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.160 Jose's his friend, and Benson askedware's home is, he says, 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.560 Guatemala and Jose and they both got here by boat. Well, 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.320 he got here two years ago. Parents sent him to 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.440 go to school. The charity promised to protect him, but 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.320 instead they gave him to this man. Jose only came 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.960 last month and the man said like that Ernesto was 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:51.840 getting too old. 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:53.560 But he kept them locked up. 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.640 He made them, you know, have sex with him, is 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.800 how he said it, and he would beat them when 0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:58.560 they said no. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.760 He tried to escape once before. 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.760 And he and he threatened to kill everyone and I'll 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.760 be you know, it's fucking scary. And he was just 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.800 sick of watching Jose suffer and he knew what was 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:09.760 ahead of him and he just like couldn't handle it. 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.440 So Stablor finally starts to help the kid and is 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.080 being nice, but they do need her Nesto's help, he says. 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.880 The guy that abused them is Brett Jansen, and he 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.560 made them call him dad. 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.720 And see, I s that's so funny. That's no and Cee, 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:30.080 I see what is that? Nick? Nick Mick? So I 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:31.160 just didn't do it right. Whatever. 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.400 They have nothing on the missing boys, there's no information, 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.000 no visa's nothing. They do have a hit on this 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.840 Brett guy, and he's a law firm person and he 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.680 had a fucking child sex slave, a nightmare, and we 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.480 need to fucking get a warrant and get into this 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:44.280 man's apartment. 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:45.080 They do. 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.080 They're searching. There's so many dead bolts. They're all unlocked now, 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.680 but it's like nuts. They're steel over wood. They say, 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:56.600 it's all soundproof, magnetic locks, serious about security. The windows 0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:58.800 are locked at all times, only open with a key. 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.200 But there's a broken window we see, but it's like 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.880 the weird plexiglass because it's soundproof, it's tempered, I guess, 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.280 so it's you know, that's evidence. There's like evidence on 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.880 the fire escapes. The dad did not even call, like 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.920 the police or anything for the broken glass, and he 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.400 didn't clean it up, so he's probably out there looking 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.680 for the boys. And even if they screamed, no one 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.520 would ever know. Ernesto's story checks out. He explained all 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.400 of this. Finn comes in and the boys have magnetic 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.640 locks too, and then the tech guy goes come with me. 0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.920 So he's dead as hell. His throat is slit and 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.000 he's sliced of the family jewels. 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.120 Stabler ads. 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.160 They ask if the kid did it or somebody else, 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.160 and boom, George Hwang is here and he is there, 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.920 they're the precincts. He says, it's possible the boy did it, 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.160 and Benson's like, no fucking way. The crime scene was 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.440 a blood bath, and Ernesta didn't have any blood on him, 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.440 and Sailor also says there was fresh blood in the shower, 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.920 and he feels an adult would think of something like 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.240 to do that for evidence removal. 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.280 But not a fourteen year old kid. 0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.560 Huang's like, okay, I said it was possible, I didn't 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.520 say I think he did it, so he got defensive 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.760 and even if he saw the killer, that must have 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.440 been super scary as well. Huang is like he was 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.440 abused by a man. So, Olivia, you go in there, 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.840 give him some love and affection. And Benson gets in 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.239 there and she does her thing. She tells him it's 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.400 not his fault. He says it is his fault that 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.600 Jose is dead, and Benson wants to help him, but 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.080 she needs to know what happened. She begs and pleads 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:24.480 with him to talk, and he obviously spills because she's gifted. 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.640 He went into Jose's room and Jose was crying and 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.719 begging for it to stop. So then Ernesto yelled, called 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.360 him a pig and told him to leave him alone. 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.480 And then he came out and pulled him out of bed, 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.279 hit him over the head, and then just smiled and said, 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.319 when I'm done with Jose, that you're going to find 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.040 out what real pain is. And he was so mad, 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:43.800 and he told Jose if he didn't be quiet, he 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.440 would send him to the other man. But Jose did cry, 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.799 and you know, Ernesto begged him to stop, and this 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.919 dude got mad and left. So then Benson asks about 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.719 the other men. He cries and says he's afraid. And 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.040 I wrote, this kid is so talented, holy shit, and 0:34:59.080 --> 0:34:59.880 this is a really. 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.719 Fun He's like really bawling and like so believe that. 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.480 Yeah, I feel it's like not appropriate for children to 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.680 be filming things like this. It's actually, like, I don't 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.800 know how it didn't traumatize him for life. He explains 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.279 that these men would take him for a while and 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.560 then give him back, and he didn't want that to 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.160 happen to Jose. Craigan is with Huang and Stabler in 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.680 the office supply window and He's like, fuck now, it's 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.919 a whole ring of these guys. We got to find 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.399 him fast. So they think Jansen knew, like who killed him, 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.360 and Fin jumps in with more news. 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.919 There's videos. So it's two men and a kid. 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.759 It's a ten year old boy, and we see the 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.520 dead guy's face, but the other guy no face, but 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.799 tons of tattoos on his body. So that'll help us 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.080 in the future identify this man. Yeah, if you're going 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.160 to be a pedophile and tape your rapes, you should 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.200 probably not have any markings on your body. Yeah, just 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.560 like I guess advice for the petos listening. But this 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.799 is Yeah, so this is clearly a Central America trip 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.040 to rape children. And the boys that we found are 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.719 Nesto Josegus adoption papers and then they find like all 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.439 this Nambles stuff. It's disgusting and NAMBLA's men loving boy 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:10.719 groups that Munch says operate like al Qaeda cells, like 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.439 one can't finger the other group. They're all splintered off. 0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.600 And Stabler then is very stable and he's like, Okay, well, 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.200 at least we can admit it's good news. 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:19.120 Jansen's dead. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.839 Craigan goes yeah, for sure, and hopefully finding who killed 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.840 him will help lead to the rest of these perverts. 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.799 Craigan tells Benson and Stabler to go to the law 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.839 office tomorrow of Jansen and track down his friends. Finn 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.680 hangs up with the Emmy. They got the name of 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.040 the dentist who worked on Jose's teeth, doctor Walt Massy, 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:39.200 so they go do that. They're filling the dentist in 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.880 and he admired Jansen for adopting two boys from a 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.719 foreign country, and it's like, I don't know, I just 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.120 don't think men should be allowed to adopt children. 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.000 Unless single men. 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.520 I mean, single women have a hard time enough adopting alone. 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.160 I mean, obviously we find out there's like more than this, 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.200 but oh god, a nightmare. 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:05.040 Whatever. 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.480 They're filling the dentists in again, he admires it. I 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.279 just I don't know, I don't know, suspicious, But he 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.520 says he only needed dental work and nothing more. Fin 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.680 asked if there's anything unusual, and he goes, well, I 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.680 think it's strange you wanted all the work done at once. 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.799 But he was going to enroll him in school, and 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.560 I guess he was teased for having metal braces as 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.800 a kid, and he only wanted the best for his boys. 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.400 Benson and Stabler are with the executive assistant and she 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.960 says he's a great boss and everyone is sick over this. 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.600 She kept his daily schedule in the computer, but he 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.520 had his own liar lol, his own lawyer diary and 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:39.120 a red. 0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:39.800 Book on his desk. 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.400 And they're like, this is strange that there are no 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.040 photos of his family. And she says he has no family, 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.200 both parents died and no siblings. And Benson's like, he 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.759 never mentioned his two sons and she's like, you haven't 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:54.000 confused with somebody else. She says, there's no way he 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.640 has kids and I don't know about it. And she's 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.399 also like, he didn't even have any friends, and say 0:37:58.400 --> 0:37:59.920 it goes, well, we're here on the calendar. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.719 See he had like a two pm lunch. What's that? 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.040 She goes, that's a client. They ate at his club. 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.640 They go to the Metropolis Club. There's an old guy, 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.560 there's a climbing wall. He says, Jansen was a ladies 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.840 man with a different woman every week. He never mentioned 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.640 him having kids. I mean, this is so fucked. So 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.720 the only kids they talked about were this old man's 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.839 He's like, I would brag about my kids all day long. 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.080 I love my kids, and I don't think Brett would 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.200 be a good father, and he has a terrible temper. 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.560 Kids would drive him crazy. Then he tells them that 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.439 this guy's other friend was Tony Damon and they played 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.239 squash together. But that's the only other person he can 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.240 think of. He's never been to his apartment, he says. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.640 They say, by mister Lynch and turn away, and he says, 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.000 it's doctor Lynch and he doesn't do it in at Chilwo. 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.320 It's like definitely like a dick thing and it actually 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:52.920 like fucked him up, like his ego. Actually, yeah, yeah, 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.040 that's why they kept his past shut. He like they 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.680 wouldn't have clocked it. He wouldn't have been a suspect nothing. 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.799 But he says he does really constructive plastic surgery. Hand 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.160 repair is this thing. He says he was in the 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.920 o r from ten pm at night to dawn in 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.120 the morning, reattaching a thumb that was severed in a 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:08.880 thumb accident. 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:10.279 After they're like. 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:25.240 What's thumb accident? It was a car accident. 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:29.759 But yeah, after he does the doctor thing, they're like, 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.920 and where were you losers? So anyway, so now they 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.280 go talk to squash body and it's Will Arnett. 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.480 It's Will Arnett, but it Will Arnett before we all 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.200 like knew Will Arnett. Like what do we sure? Yeah? 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.040 Because like, what do you I think Will Arnett's first 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:46.880 intro to me is arrested development? 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:47.120 Right? 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:48.480 Is that most people's. 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:53.799 I just didn't care about him until BoJack Horseman even 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.240 later for you, I just like, was arrested development whatever. 0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.680 So this Willlarnett guy, he's like, I'm coming back. I 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.720 just coming back from Chicago, offers up his boarding pass 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.560 and then he goes that guy had a strange sense 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.040 of humor and I don't even get what. 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.520 I don't get that this is that weird. But I 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.240 guess I might have a strange sense humor. 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.439 But Friday they were playing and he got laughed at 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.960 and this guy goes lucky shot and he's like, usually 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.680 play like a woman, and. 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.880 I should have cut your balls off years ago. I 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:23.799 wouldn't clock that. 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.439 But whatever, it's kind of a weird joke. I would 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.600 have cut your balls off, sure, but I'm more annoyed 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.840 about the playing like a woman. Yes, obviously shitty, but 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.120 a standard loser joke. 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.840 Yeah yeah. Benson and Stabler rushed to Melinda. She says 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.800 that these balls weren't cut off. Someone used the scalpel, 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.279 and it was before he died, so they really wanted 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.319 to make him suffer, and then they whacked him with 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.399 a blunt object to knock him out to be able 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:53.759 to do. 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:54.960 The scalpel ball removal. 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.359 They didn't find any blunt objects though, so he must 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.279 have taken it. And also the net cuts were right 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.840 on the arteries where they should have been. So Ernesto 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.239 is sleeping on the couch in the loft area and 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.680 it's like a floral couch. It really kind of is 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.120 funny to me. They run up with good news they 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.879 found his parents and they'll be there tomorrow to get him. 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.440 But first Benson and Stabler have a binder of faces 0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.279 and they need his help, like was it any of 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.319 these men or these the doctors or any of these 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:24.000 the sickos? 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:24.759 Like who was there? 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.640 And he goes, well, doctor did come when I was sick, 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.160 but he never touched me. So they show photos and 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.520 he points to doctor Lynch, who could have kept his 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.560 mouth shut, wouldn't have been in the binder, but and 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.280 then he has three adopted sons and never been married. 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.400 Uh Oh works at Chelsea Hospital and he operates on 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.000 disfigured kids and third. 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.200 World countries not to be trusted. 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.040 And then on the side he sews up his friend's 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.920 slave boy as much says a real humanitarian will or not, 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:55.000 runs a travel agency, Global Voyages, and lives in Scarsdale. 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:56.440 No kids, not married. 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.320 It's like, yeah, we should be like we shun women 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.879 that are single, but it's like these guys are These 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.160 are the people that are more suspicious. 0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.360 In my life, I've never come across a man that 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.040 has a child that they adopted on their own in 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.759 my life, and I've met dozens of people I just like, 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.880 not anecdotally, I can't think of a versus like a 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.920 man that has not like not like adopting a nephew 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.000 that a of like a brother that passed or something 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.960 like that. Like straight up I went to an adoptation scene 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:28.480 said I just want to be a dad, like I 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:29.640 just have never seen that. 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.160 Yeah did ah didn't YEA. 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.400 So they and all these guys had a lot of 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.359 calls to each other that day. A triangle of calls 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.160 and chats. So Damon is setting up sex tours for 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.400 his friends and then bringing back human souvenirs. They need 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.560 to get Lynch's kids out of that house tonight. Cabot 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.000 looks hot as hell, red dress, waves in her hair, 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.839 fancy dinner. She says, two phone calls is not enough, 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.480 but it's like, well, there are three kids and we 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.279 need to help them. She's like, well, do we know 0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.480 if they're legally adopted or not. They'll find out in 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.200 the morning. But the kids do go to public school, 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.320 they're not locked away, and there's no complaints of abuse. 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.400 But he didn't report Jose's abuse. And then who walks 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.920 in Trevor Langen slash Peter Herman slash Missus mister Murska 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.600 harget day and she's on a fucking date with him. 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.520 I'm loving this and he goes, that's an amus demeanor 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.040 with no priors, and Benson goes, wow, dining with the enemy, 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.960 and it's like, yeah, he's hot, and then she I 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:28.759 don't remember this. 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:29.480 I didn't remember that. 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:33.400 I didn't either, and then he's like, hey, I'll go 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.879 watch the game at the bar till you know they're 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.480 done with their little meeting and he gives her a long, sexy, 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:44.120 flirty stare. And then so now she's going back and 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.799 forth with the detectives and saying this Lynch is a 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.480 heavy hitter, like, we can't go after him half ass 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.359 because he's gonna lawyer up immediately. Benson does say they 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.400 have Jansen's hard drive and that they have proof that 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.759 he took this special tour with Damon and that was 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.680 years ago, and that they travel to rape children and 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.520 that that is a federal crime. I actually don't really 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.480 know how they figured that out. Anyways, She's like, we 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.880 need to catch him in the act. So of course 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.520 Munch is undercover as a pedophile. Who else would it be. 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:19.120 He's perfect John Blackman, beige suit, blue tie, and he 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.719 looks like a crazy Christian pastor, you know, like he 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.879 would hold a sign at a like a a gay 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.400 dead person's funeral. It's like that kind of vibe snake 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.840 Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, that kind of 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:36.200 snake skin like. He does look like such a pedo, 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:41.000 like he needs glasses. Him with out glasses is fucked up, 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.360 And that's rude. It's rude of me to say and 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.640 speak ill of the Dead like this, but we make 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.239 fun of as transition lenses as a culture. But I'm 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.359 like this man like without a transition lens, I don't 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:51.640 want it. 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.680 Yeah, I don't. It's weird. 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.880 It's like weird to me. You can't look directly in 0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.080 Bellser's eyes. It's too it's too powerful. 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:03.920 And then I'm like thinking about will Arnett's character, I'm like, 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.040 I wonder if he does travel for people that has 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:07.880 nothing to do with rape, you know, like does he 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.520 also like set up family vacations for people, Like is 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.680 he just and does his office? 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.239 Oh, I don't think they're paying Locket. I don't think 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.040 you're paying enough. I think you're paying massive money to 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.400 do sex tourism, whereas he's not booking your like carnival 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.280 cruise to like the correct. 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:25.759 Is everyone at this office doing it? 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:27.759 Or is it just him and he's getting away with 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:29.480 it or everyone there is a pedophile? 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.720 I don't know. Write something to think about. Yeah. 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.279 Will Arnett says that he ran the credit for John 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.239 Munch's Undercover Guy and it all came up fine. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.360 The NYPD got it together. They have unlimited budget. 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.560 He checks his ID, the id's fine, and then that's 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.919 all it takes to fully spill all the beans. He's 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.600 just like, okay, cool sou and he never even said 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.800 who gave the name, Like it's crazy Will Arnett's character. 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.600 It is this thing of like even if you're doing 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.279 a drum a role like him or Ali Wong, like 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.040 the funny does come out. Yeah, the way people speak 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.920 and the Martin short episode like there is. 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.640 Just totally you like, can't not be funny. 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.839 You're playing a full sex tourism pedophile, and but the. 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.840 Way he spills is just so funny. He's like, okay, 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.200 sweet standard two week package. Who's taking two weeks off 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:26.080 of work alone to go? It's all crazy business class 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:30.359 meals and entertainment included five grand and so he's like, 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.719 oh entertainment, And immediately will our netchoes girls or boys? 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.880 Are both? He says boys eleven to thirteen. He starts 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:41.000 spilling again. I wrote spilling the Beaten so loose. One 0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:43.319 credit check is all it took to admit to being 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.160 a pedophile, Like does that mean that this happens like 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.160 five times a day business as usual? Like all everyone's 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.960 just coming into rape kids and he's just like, let 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:53.760 me just make sure. 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:54.480 You've got the funds. 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.720 That's it, And like, I guess they did a background 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.640 check on this fake name, but. 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.160 It's the Giselle Pellicoate of at all. It's like, you know, 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.440 is it that Lucy Goose? It's the Epstein of it all. 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.360 Is just loosen the emails, like no one's hiding anything. 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.080 So he says, we work with an orphanage five years 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.120 old and up, and you get a videotape to cherish 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:17.319 the memory, and Munch gives him the cash. 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:18.640 You know, he doesn't want a paper Joil. 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.560 He says, if there's another name you want to use 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.280 for travel, let me know, and he goes, yeah, John Munch, 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.759 but you can call me detective and badge up or 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.320 rest time. Finn comes in commands everybody to stop working, 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.840 get the computers and the files. So they have the 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.440 whole conversation taped and we're in cement room bars and 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:40.280 he's like, so, what conspiracy exactly, and it's like, Babe, 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.719 facilitating the rape of children in foreign countries. Obviously that's 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.280 what's happening. And he's like he has such an innocent 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.600 guy's response. He goes, there's no state law against that, 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:53.160 Like what the fuck. So Saylor says it's federal law, 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.120 and we turned our tape over to the US attorney. 0:47:55.400 --> 0:48:00.759 Your toast and he again he again is acting so 0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.040 chill and innocent and is like, actually, federal statutes require 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.480 proof of the sex act, and it's like, why not 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.239 he just ask for a lawyer, like you were the 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.840 most shabby motherfucker. You know every law a pedophile should know, 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.600 and we have you on tape doing it, Like I 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.640 don't understand what he's even fighting for. How are you 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.360 denying it? So he's like, and you need a victim, 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.759 where are you gonna find one? And men Munch was like, oh, 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.799 you're a nambler guy. He goes, no, I'm not one 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.640 of those freaks, and then Stabler grabs him, throws him 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.440 against the bars on the window. He screams, you are 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.680 nothing but a low life pimp who sells children. Munch 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.600 tries to stop him, Stablor goes, get off me, and 0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.200 then throws our net onto the chair and then goes, 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.560 you did this, you freak, And he says Jansen and 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.319 Lynch did what they did on their own, and but 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.320 like you were caught asking boys. 0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:51.240 Or girls like I don't Barnett's character doesn't actually molest kids. 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.799 He's just yeah, that's like a little bit god. 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:54.000 Yeah. 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:55.680 Yeah. He says he does it for the money. 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.960 So he grabs his neck like a kitten at the 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.080 vet like it's kind of cool, and he goes, how 0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.560 many sex tours have you booked? He admits to dozens 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.000 over the years, and then that's and then you know 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.160 he's lying, so that means it's way more than dozens, 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.480 you know. And then he goes, I'm not a pedo. 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.280 I just do it for the money. And they said whatever, 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.279 You're going to go to death row for slicing up 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.080 Jansen and he's like, well, I didn't do that, and 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.879 they bring up the ball cutting story and he goes, 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.799 oh my god, Lynch is using that to set me up. 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:23.480 Duh. 0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:27.480 Lynch like handpicked Jose for Jansen. Then Jansen called Lynch 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.440 and wanted his money back, and then when they both escaped, 0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:34.160 they chatted before he was killed, and he says him 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.640 and Lynch talked because he was still waiting for his 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.200 rape tape. And so then Willernett gets an amazing idea 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.280 and goes, make me a deal. I'll give you Lynch 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.719 on a silver platter. So then Cabat and Craigan have 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.520 been spying and she's like, oh god, you know, like 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.319 sex tours are federal, and I don't want to give 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.359 him immunity to we're sure about this. Craigan says, maybe 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.919 we can get him without this, like loser's help. Let's 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.239 get the post office to like we'll get the tape, 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.440 you know, so let's work on it. So the postal 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.760 inspector they find the thing, and then the mail carrier 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:07.919 brings it to the pedo and like fifteen minutes ago, 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:09.839 and he grabbed it right away, and they say it 0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.880 was like a kid on Christmas. So then the cops knock, knock, knock. 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:16.160 Little boys open the door and Benson speaks to them 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.319 in Spanish, and then they all go to get him. 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:22.600 Finn his full ponytail leather, giant jacket, and Stabler gives 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.799 him a warrant and he's watching the rape video like 0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.919 he could not even wait, and then they arrest him. 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:29.160 He shuts up immediately. 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:33.120 He wants a lawyer and again, you were watching the 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.440 tape of a rape, Like I don't understand these Yeah. 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:41.200 I just don't understand the like I didn't do it. 0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.959 It's like we're watching the video of you rape a kid, 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.200 like I don't know what you're talking about, Like, Will Arnette, 0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.239 you straight up said boys or girls will use an 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.279 orphanage and you get a tape of the rape, Like 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:52.840 what are you fighting? 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.799 So he shuts up? Ouh did you hear? 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.799 I watched a video of like I guess all the 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.560 guys that are pedo as they say they're in for fraud. 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.520 That's like the go to lie. And then I was. 0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:08.720 Watching an interview with like a a well known fraudster, 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.040 like a succes. I guess not successfully is in prison, 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.520 but like whatever, and they would make him go talk 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.799 to the people to figure out if it was really 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:18.560 fraud or not, and then he would know if they 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.359 were lying, and then everyone would know they were a child. 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:26.880 Oh shit, that's the lie. Yikes. 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.279 Part of me feels like Will Arnett's character goes on 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.799 to become job like that's why he lives at home 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:37.240 with his mom and does magic because he got busted 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.120 doing sex tourism for the money. 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.160 But oh my god, I just thought about my enemy 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:45.000 David Cross. 0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:48.759 Oh my god, he keeps stuff about him, keeps coming 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.120 into my feet and I'm always like. 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:55.360 Oh um, he shuts up, YadA YadA. Okay, So the 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.520 lawyer wants to deal. Cabot says, fuck you. We found 0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:00.919 out the adoption papers are fake, the visas are fake, 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.000 and you get ten years prison time for each boy 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.640 you smuggled in. And he goes, smuggled in? Are you 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:08.960 people insane? She goes, yeah, kidnapping and sex abuse. He 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.799 says I would never abuse my sons, and the lawyer 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.319 tries to get him to stop, and he won't. He 0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:15.320 says he would never force the boys to do anything 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:18.200 they didn't want to do. Your boys are barely teenagers 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:22.279 and cannot consent. Stabler, very casually from the corner is 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:25.280 just like, well, how the boys feel being passed around 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:27.319 your friend group? And he screams that he did no 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:30.040 such thing. I love them, I would do nothing to 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.880 hurt them. And he starts bringing up NAMBLA and they're like, 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:37.440 you're gonna bring NAMBLA to court, like that's the defense, 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.759 and the lawyer goes, listen, how about sex abuse three 0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.279 for his sons and immunity on the federal charges. She's like, 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.680 I can't speak for the US attorney like, you have 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.080 to give me something I can bring her and he 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.040 starts to talk. Damon is the one smuggling in the boys. 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:54.279 He is not nambla. It's just merchandise to him. He 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.640 brings in six boys a year, two at a time 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.719 on a chartered sailboat and he agrees to give every 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:03.440 name he knows and so so then they're like, what 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.640 about the Knight of Jensen's murder. He's like, we didn't 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.080 really talk and they're like, well, then you slipes him up, 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.359 you slice him up, and the lawyer goes, not another word. 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:12.400 He says, I didn't kill anybody. 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:16.120 They bring up the scalpel like medical knowledge proof stuff, 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:20.080 and he goes, I was in surgery and Stabler goes, nope, 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:22.120 your hospital says you were on vacation, and he goes, 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:23.000 wrong hospital. 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.279 The case I did was up in Rochester. And it's like, 0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:27.480 why wouldn't his hospital know it? 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.400 Why would he do a fake vacation to do a 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:34.719 Rochester car accident surgery? Like what is actually happening? Like 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:39.080 isn't that weird that that he was just at another 0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:43.200 hospital but his his hospital thought that he was on vacation. 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:45.880 So it's like if their sister hospitals or they're all 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:47.759 in the same network, or like, oh, I have to 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.080 do an emergency surgery because I'm so sought after and 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.320 they need my emergency some help. But like, why would 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.480 you tell your employer you're going on vacation but you're 0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:01.520 just you're doing at another hospital, Like that's strange to me. No, 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:04.080 you're the one who has medical people in your life. Yeah, 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.080 that's true. I didn't think about that. That's crazy. 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:11.360 And also it's not like, oh I actually was the 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.400 surgery I did was on Long Island. Rochester is quite 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.840 far from New York City. You're driving five hours oway. 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.719 That's what made me feel like, there's the reason he's 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.359 up there, maybe doing some surgeries to excuse why he's 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:24.759 up there is because he's got like a house up 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:26.880 there where he keeps more kids or something like that. Like, 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:30.720 I don't know, that's not close at all. So now 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.880 one of our favorite things. Yeah, the Rochester thing is 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:38.520 fucking you're doing like secret surgeries and that counts as 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.360 your vacation. Like I get if you are going to 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:43.399 do doctors without border, like this. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:45.800 Just doesn't make a fucking sense. Yeah. 0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:52.360 So anyways, it's uh, it's Center Precinct cage pedo rapist. 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:53.520 There's a bunch of him. 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:57.239 Finn Is screaming, We're gonna get a court order and 0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.439 then make all of you a strip and we'll see 0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:02.960 who's Tech two's match the movie movie stars. You know, 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.800 he's having the time of his life. There's seventeen perverts 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.759 so far. We got teachers, court clerks, engineers, Wall Street guys, everyone. 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:12.040 They all say Damon is the one that got them 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.640 their kids. So Sailor is annoyed that none of these 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.040 guys like will do much time, and that like the 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.719 guy who killed Jansen's gonna do more times than the pedophiles. 0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:23.719 But like, yeah, murderer, I guess Trump's child rape. 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:24.160 I don't know. 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.239 I guess I want to know though, Like because they 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.960 make it sound like Damon is just setting up the 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:30.799 travel like he's like, oh, you want to go on 0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:32.360 like a fun trip and I'll get you some like 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:36.040 little kids. But then who's getting the fake adoption papers, 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.879 who's getting the fake visas? Like who's smuggling back into 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:40.280 the country, Like I guess Damon. 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:43.320 Now, yeah, he's getting the boats, He's getting these chartered boats. 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.680 Yeah, he's too funny, Like Will Arnett is too funny. 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:48.239 It makes me feel like he's like. 0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:49.560 Oh, I'm just doing it for the money. I'm just 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:50.280 planning trips. 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:54.839 And it's like, no, you're like literally facilitating a lifetime 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:56.600 nightmare for these children. 0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.759 You're bringing them to another country to be No, he's 0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:05.400 also never married, no kids. He's certainly a pedos. Yeah, 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:09.560 that's true. He's yeah, he's just maybe like, oh, I'm 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:11.680 a pedo for sixteen year olds or something like. 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:12.200 Yeah. 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.520 He's not like he's not kids because he's like, I'm 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:15.640 just married to my job. 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.040 I just am working so hard ough. 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:22.799 So, but Benson goes at the Lynch Alibi did check 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:24.520 out and he was three hundred and fifty miles away, 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.640 So that's annoying. But the Lynch kids, the doctor report 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.160 does come up that they were sexually abused, but excellent 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.719 health outside of that and perfect teeth. Uh oh ding 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.200 ding ding the dentist. The dentist. We're going backwards in 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.600 the time. So is he in the club? Is he 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.759 on the sex tour list? Like, oh, you know, all 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.480 these pedos they work in mysterious ways. So they have 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:45.520 to find out how many of the boys he's worked 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.280 on and he has two kids of his own as well, 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.200 and he did oral surgery and dental school, so he 0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:54.560 would know how to work a scalpel. There's like, if 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.840 they find a pattern, hopefully that's enough to get a warrant. 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.440 And off to Matse's house they go. The wife has 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.960 no clue. She's in shock. Oh my god, you think 0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.759 Walt murdered someone? She says, two nights ago you had 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.040 an emergency patient and left at nine thirty, so it 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:07.839 couldn't have been him. 0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.600 And it's like he's lying to you, dumb horr. 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:13.200 Benson sees a photo and says, wow, handsome boys, and 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.759 then they look just like you, and she says thank you. 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:17.840 And then of course they don't look like your husband. 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:21.400 Obviously they're from a previous marriage. He's a pedophile. He's 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.600 molesting his step kids. This is a nightmare. So her 0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:27.160 ex is unfortunately doing eight to ten in Attica for 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:29.120 trying to kill her. I do regret calling her a 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:33.840 whore earlier. I just am like so mad. So he 0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:36.720 lost his parental rights and then Walt adopted the boys 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.440 and she and then they ask how she met her husband. 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:41.880 She put a personal ad out in the newspaper, and 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.640 he answered it. Please forgive me for asking this. But 0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.920 Benson asks, how has you know your relationship been like 0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:48.640 with your husband? 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.160 She starts to cry. She's like, what does that to 0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:51.880 do with anything? 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.720 Benson pushes her to speak and whal and she goes, 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.800 Walt is a good man, and our relationship isn't about sex. 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.640 He's a saint, and he rescued me and the boys. Like, 0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.320 I don't know why that's not suspicious. So then stable 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:06.560 wills survival. Okay, So Stabler asks, like, does he pay 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:09.040 attention to one boy more than the other? She goes, yeah, Sean, 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.240 they're together all the time, like whenever Walt's home. 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:13.840 And she says this very proudly. 0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:15.600 And then they give her time to like figure it out, 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.400 and everyone's in silence, and then her face slowly changes 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.040 as it dawns on her what they're getting at. 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:22.280 She had no clue. 0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:24.280 A part of me was like, oh, she fucking knows, 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.560 and she would rather like she thinks, you know what 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.800 I mean, Like I just thought I did not think 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:33.320 the best. I assumed the worst. My fault. But she goes, 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.560 oh my god, what has he done? Stabler is with Sean, 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.800 and he's explaining that his dad like would hit his 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:44.320 mom and they had to go to a shelter and 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:50.120 then you know me, mom met Walt, then mom met 0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:52.160 then mom met Walt. 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:56.040 That's hard. Can you say that mom met Walt? Yeah, 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.120 it's hard, he says. 0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.920 They hang out and goes and they go to ball 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.440 games and he coaches soccer. Uh oh, he pushes, like 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.120 what do you do when you're alone together? He gets 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.600 uncomfortable immediately. He's like, you know, I was told I 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.800 couldn't tell anyone, no one would get it, and Sailor goes, 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.080 I do understand, and there's no need to be afraid. 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.000 Dramatic music plays. He says, what would stay with him 0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.840 at night? Mom is in the spy window. She's crying. 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:19.880 It started one night. He just came in and wanted 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.960 and said I want to be near you and just 0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:25.640 climbed in. Stabler asks more questions, and the touching didn't 0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:28.600 start till later. And then the boy cries and he 0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:32.640 says fathers are supposed to love their sons, and Sailor says, 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.640 fuck that, and none of this is your fault and 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.000 what he's doing is wrong, and then he cries more 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:38.520 and he says, I know, but he takes care of 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.160 my mom and we don't have to live in the 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.040 shelter anymore. And the mom my mom doesn't get beat up. 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.200 What really loves us? He says, like this is so 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.960 fucked up. He's really sad, he's confused, he's shaking his 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:51.360 head in tears and disbelieve. 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:54.480 The mom walks him out as they bring and by 0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:58.040 the way, that kid is in what hot American summer? Stop? 0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:06.560 Oh my god, he's the Molly Shannon friend. Yes, yeah, Aaron, 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:10.280 he's likest of cute kidd. 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:11.720 Oh my god. 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:14.439 And then of course they have to do a meet 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:17.800 cue in the fucking Center precinct with the pedo stepdad 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:20.720 like they couldn't wait for the mom and abused son 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:23.600 to like exit, Like, I I know they do this 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.560 for the show, but it's like, what the fuck. It's 1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:30.680 so creepy. And he looks him up and down. He 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.520 is looking this kid up and down in a very 1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:37.280 inappropriate way. It's really it's like his last stare before jail. 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:40.640 It's hard to watch. So then Staylor comes in and 1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:42.840 we're gonna do a little nice nice that's what they 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:44.760 you know he's gonna play the game of like I'm 1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:48.840 a pedophile too, so he's acting shock. They thought he 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:52.280 was even a criminal, dragged him out of work. Sailor goes, 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:55.240 I'm sorry. They were not supposed to do that. He says, 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:58.560 Sean seems like a great kid. Sean, you know, not 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.400 said how much he loves you, and like how much 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.240 you love him and his mom And Benson comes in 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.520 with a case that needs attention, and Sailor goes, stop 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:08.240 wasting my time with that crap. 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:11.480 I mean they're doing theater. I wonder if they rehearse this, 1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:11.840 you know. 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:14.520 So then she slams the door and goes, have it 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:18.080 your way, and Silor goes, ough, so annoyingang fourteen year 1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:20.520 old girl dating a twenty two year old guy, completely 1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:23.240 consensual sex. They want to lock him up, and he 1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:25.760 calls this guy like a poor guy, and this creepy 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:29.200 guy says some creepy shit, and Sanbor goes exactly, and 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:31.280 I wish the people in charge that made the laws 1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:33.480 felt as creepy as you did. And he goes, oh 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.640 my god, you agree with me, and Stabler's like, listen, 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:39.680 we're all sexual beings, children, adults, that's why I'm thinking 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:43.120 this is a misunderstanding. And the purpse like, well, what 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.320 do you mean? And Stablor goes, listen, my colleagues brought 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:48.040 you in because they say that you're sexually abusing your boys. 1:01:48.440 --> 1:01:51.120 But I've seen a lot of child abusers and I'm 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:53.880 not getting that vibe from you. And he's like touched, 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:55.680 and he's like, I would never do anything to hurt 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:59.720 my boys, Like you know, we understand love and loving 1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:03.080 your boys in respect. And you know Brett Jansen he 1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:05.960 beat his sons and locked him up and treated Jose badly. 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:08.760 And he goes, yeah, he had bruises all over his body, 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:11.480 and he's shaking his finger pissed, like Jansen does not 1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:15.120 love those boys, and Sailor goes, I know he forced them, 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:18.120 and goes forcing them well, and Sabler says, between you 1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:21.000 and me, I think Jansen got what he deserved. 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:22.560 And then he goes, s. 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:24.480 I mean, I love this, and then he gets up 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:26.440 and walks around the pedo and then back to his 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:28.920 chair and then throws the folder down on his desk 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:31.760 and the pedo is smiling and he and Jansen says 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:36.560 his punishment was especially appropriate. Don't you think, and Stabler asks, oh, no, 1:02:36.640 --> 1:02:39.000 Jansen's the dead one. Whoever this Peedo is, it's like 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:43.600 a mass, this Walt mass. Okay, so Walt is like 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:46.600 the punishment was appropriate, don't you think? And Sailor goes, 1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:48.520 do you know I can't believe I fucked up all 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:48.959 their names? 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:49.560 Do you so? 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:52.240 No Jansen is dead? Okay? Sailor asked, do you know 1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:54.560 how Jansen was killed? And there's a twinkle in this 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:58.280 guy's eye and he goes, that man hurt those little angels, 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.440 and Stabler nods and says, I I think you know 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.120 more than that, and he pushes his sleeve up to 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.840 like show a tattoo and goes, I know this tattoo. 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:08.680 It was in the rape videotapes. And the glass from 1:03:08.680 --> 1:03:11.400 the apartment was found in your fucking sneaker, and Sailor goes, 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:14.040 you think I'm a fucking idiot. Come on, And then 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.920 he said, ah, Jansen ruined it for everybody. I had 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:19.200 to make sure he had never heard another little boy again. 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:21.960 And Sailor goes, and that goes for you too. You're 1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:24.880 under arrest for murdering Jansen and sexually abusing your son. 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:27.640 And then the Purv jumps in shock. No, I did 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:30.960 not force Sean. He seduced me. He's backing up against 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.600 the cement wall. How can I deny him. I didn't 1:03:33.640 --> 1:03:36.000 beat him. It's not the same thing, and Sailor goes, no, 1:03:36.080 --> 1:03:38.480 it's worse. You had sex with your step son and 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:40.600 you don't think there's anything wrong with that? What kind 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:43.520 of sick bastard are you? And Stabler is closing in 1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:45.600 on him, getting closer and closer, and he's like so 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:48.160 scared and nervous, and he's like, you know, getting cornered 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:50.600 into the corner of cement room bars. And then this 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:53.160 guy is gonna hate prison and that's dick wolf baby. 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:54.520 Yeah. 1:03:55.360 --> 1:04:03.120 Oof, Okay, it's so tough. But you know this episode 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:07.120 from what two thousand and two, it's twenty four years later, 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:11.200 still Epstein dealing with all of this kind of crap. 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:21.800 That's all sort of related. Okay. So, first of all, NAMBLA. 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:23.360 Which we mentioned a couple of times, but just to 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.560 get a little bit more into it, is the North 1:04:25.600 --> 1:04:31.680 American Man Boy Love Association, which I don't even look 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:35.160 up the fucking logo of it. The logo of it 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:38.920 is NAM in caps. And then the B for boy 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:42.880 is in lowercase, and then the LA is in uppercase, right, 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.240 but then the M and the B is like cock 1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:48.520 to the side, almost like a sesame street television show 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.000 would be like, isn't this cute? 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:53.720 Like just a man and a boy in love? Like 1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:54.840 it's so creepy. 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:59.040 And it's a pedophilia and pederaste advocacy organization in the 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:04.120 US which wants to abolish consent laws that criminalize adult 1:05:04.120 --> 1:05:09.440 sexual relationships with minors aka child sexual abuse and rape. 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:13.880 The group basically seems like they've dissipated a lot, like 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:17.080 they don't hold regular meetings, national regular meetings, and as 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:21.040 of the late nineties, they had discouraged the formation of 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:23.400 local chapters to avoid law enforcement, so kind of like 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:26.880 what Munch said, like forming small splinter cells that aren't 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:28.760 related to each other, so that if you get busted, 1:05:28.760 --> 1:05:29.840 you don't bring down like a. 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:30.600 Ton of other people. 1:05:32.240 --> 1:05:35.160 But in nineteen ninety five, an undercover detective, so that 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:38.880 there was about eleven hundred people on the organization's like 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:42.800 attendance roles, I guess, or people that supported it. Officially, 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:48.520 they are the largest group within the International Pedophile and 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:52.680 Child emancipation the IPCE, which is an international pro pedophile 1:05:52.800 --> 1:05:57.480 activist organization, and I guess the organization has really dwindled 1:05:57.480 --> 1:06:01.160 to only a handful of people, and pedophiles were mostly 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:03.760 like online, working on their own. I don't think they're 1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:06.400 trying to like change legislation anymore. As of two thousand 1:06:06.400 --> 1:06:08.920 and five, newspaper reports at that NAMBLA is mostly based 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:10.360 in New York and San Francisco. 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.520 So but they talk about it. 1:06:14.520 --> 1:06:18.520 A lot on SVU, I think for how big it 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:21.480 is or how existent it is. But what I found 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:23.320 was there were there were you know, there's a couple 1:06:23.320 --> 1:06:27.240 of cases. There's obviously millions of cases about men, you know, 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.920 molesting children and sexually assaulting their own children and their 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:34.960 step children and children they've fostered, whatever. But this is 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:38.880 a very interesting case. I think this is Helmet Kentler, 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:44.880 who was a very influential German psychologist, sexologist and professor 1:06:44.960 --> 1:06:48.760 of social education at the University of Hanover in Germany, 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:55.160 and he ran a project that was government funded later 1:06:55.240 --> 1:06:59.960 called the Kentler Project or the Kentler Experiment, wherein he believed. 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:02.480 That ped files would make good foster parents. 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:06.280 So from part of the so from the late sixties 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:08.920 to the early nineties, he helped to place like neglected 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:12.400 foster children into the homes of single men who were 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:16.439 either hebaphiles or pedophiles, which we've talked about before. Heba 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:19.840 files is like slightly older kids that are like right 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:24.680 before puberty as opposed to smaller children. But he believed 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:30.840 that sexual assault of these children was relatively harmless if 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:35.120 not forced. Basically, his philosophy was that parents should let 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:39.640 their children have an unobstructed path to fulfilling their sexual desires, 1:07:40.080 --> 1:07:41.680 like and he took it a step further, saying that 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:45.160 parents should actually introduce their children to sexuality so they 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:50.960 wouldn't risk leaving them that they wouldn't quote risk leaving 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:55.120 them sexually underdeveloped to become sexual cripples end quote. Is 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:58.800 what this man's philosophy was, like, let's be more sexually 1:07:58.840 --> 1:08:02.560 open and like some people followed him because they thought that, oh, 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:06.640 he's like more into sexual openness and being open with 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:09.280 your sexuality, but it's like not when it comes to 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:12.640 children who like literally don't have like the brain development 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:17.760 to even consent to this kind of thing. So he 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:21.080 basically argued that parents must be aware that a good 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:24.840 relationship of trust between children and parents cannot be maintained 1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:28.040 if children are denied. The satisfaction of needs as urgent 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:32.280 as sexual ones is another thing he has said, and 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:35.120 he thought teens having early sexual experiences would make them 1:08:35.160 --> 1:08:38.720 more independent and able to reject adult norms. He was 1:08:39.320 --> 1:08:43.040 particularly interested in girls being too sexually repressed, and that 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:46.320 if girls felt no pressure to have sex, then boys 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:49.519 that were sexually free would consider these girls to be uptight. 1:08:49.960 --> 1:08:51.360 We don't want that right girls. 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:56.160 So, based on his view that children can have sexual 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:59.240 needs even before puberty, he thought that there could be 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:03.240 volunteer sexual interactions with adults and that this differed from 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:06.479 sexual abuse, and that these children would actually be better 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:11.200 protected from sexual abuse if they had these voluntary sexual 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:15.000 interactions with adults. I mean, it's so beyond And he 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:18.240 would say, like, oh, parents, he would like say, don't 1:09:18.320 --> 1:09:20.680 sometimes like an airplane is just an airplane. It's not 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.200 a phallic symbol, you know, don't go straight to the police. 1:09:23.520 --> 1:09:26.040 Maybe the kid likes it, that kind of stuff. He 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:28.639 treated pedophiles like they were benefactors, like they were doing 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:32.840 a great thing for these children. So he started, did 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:36.599 he end up in Jit. I mean, let's okay, you're 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:40.360 not going to like the answer. So he started this project. 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:42.840 I don't know when officially the government gave him the 1:09:42.880 --> 1:09:45.160 money for it. In nineteen eighty eight, he reported to 1:09:45.200 --> 1:09:48.000 the German Senate saying the project is a complete success. 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:52.479 But there was never really any documentation about how this 1:09:52.560 --> 1:09:54.960 project even came to be approved, and if there was 1:09:55.000 --> 1:09:57.519 any documentation, it's been destroyed or it's gone missing. 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:00.000 In nineteen ninety fi. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:03.400 Three, I will report that a German magazine, I don't 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.200 know if it's a German magazine, but a magazine called 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:08.600 Emma reported on Kentler, and then feminists protested him at 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:10.280 an event in Hannover and he did get punched in 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:12.040 the face, which is a good news. 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:17.000 That is the good news. So what's crazy is in. 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:23.799 Twenty seventeen, this big report came out in Germany about 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:27.880 the Kentler experiment, and then in twenty twenty one, the 1:10:27.920 --> 1:10:31.000 New Yorker did a big article on it, and they 1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:34.480 talked to this man named Marco who had personal experience, 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:38.360 and it honestly sounds like the story kind of of 1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:42.639 Ernesto and Jose. But this article didn't come out until 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:45.840 twenty twenty one. And even though the episode could have 1:10:45.880 --> 1:10:48.760 easily been based on Kentler, because I'm sure Nambla like 1:10:48.920 --> 1:10:52.720 used some of Kentler's study as like there you know 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:56.360 as in their you know, researcher in their attempts to 1:10:56.560 --> 1:11:01.800 like reform like legislation. This guy Marco did not come 1:11:01.880 --> 1:11:04.840 forward with his story until he read the twenty seventeen report, 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:07.840 which is fifteen years after this when he met he 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:10.360 met the woman who wrote the report and told her, 1:11:10.880 --> 1:11:12.800 this is the first you're the first person I've told 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:16.400 and this is in twenty seventeen, so fifteen years after 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:19.000 this episode has come out, this boy is coming to 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:21.559 this people to say that what happened to him, and 1:11:22.600 --> 1:11:25.400 she couldn't believe it. She thought that all of the 1:11:25.439 --> 1:11:30.280 foster care like contacts had been like by the late eighties, 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.600 were not happening anymore. But this guy Marco has a 1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:36.880 very different story. So he spoke to this woman and 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:39.960 then he gave his personal experience to The New Yorker 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:42.080 in this really long piece that I obviously am linking 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:46.080 in my sources from twenty twenty one. So Marco's foster 1:11:46.160 --> 1:11:49.040 father was Fritz Henkel. He was an engineers. 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:49.800 Not a good name. 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:54.960 Fritz. No, Fritz Fritzel, We're not loving it. No, he 1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:57.920 was an engineer. He had and he brought Marco to 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:00.680 Kuntler's home many times. Kentler served a kind of like 1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:05.439 Henkel's advisor. He sort of had a grandfatherly presence to 1:12:05.479 --> 1:12:08.160 the boys that were in Henkel's care. He was a 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:11.120 longtime foster parent. He had many people placed in his 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:15.640 home and many many people outside. People reported that he 1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:21.320 was having homosexual contact with his foster sons or pedophilia 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:24.240 contact really, because like it's not just home, it's not 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:28.880 like contact, it's a crime. But Kenler, his advisor, and 1:12:28.920 --> 1:12:34.040 he's this respected sexologist in Germany, is intervening on his behalf. No, 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:35.600 it's not what you think it is. This is like 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:38.760 the blah blah blah. So Henkel is fine, and of 1:12:38.760 --> 1:12:41.040 course more boys go on to be placed with him, 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:44.679 including Marco. Marco lives in this foster home from about 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:47.000 nineteen eighty eight to two thousand and three, from the 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:51.600 ages of five to twenty one. Oh yeah, so this 1:12:51.800 --> 1:12:55.719 episode comes out he's still living with this man. Marco 1:12:56.160 --> 1:12:58.639 lived in the foster home with a brother named Sven 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:01.960 who they lived in the same home for thirteen years, 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.640 and Marco goes, I liked him, but we were never connected. 1:13:05.880 --> 1:13:09.479 We never had a real conversation. They never spoke about 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:12.760 what was happening to them. They just took it for 1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:17.880 granted that this was normal. And he just yeah, Marco says, 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:20.639 he thought everything happening to him was like normal, and 1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:24.280 he was shocked to read us the study in twenty 1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:27.000 seventeen that he read. And the study, by the way, 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:31.320 was by Teresa Nentwig, who was a political scientist at 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:35.040 the University of Gautingen's Institute for Democracy Research. 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:37.759 She wrote the twenty seventeen report on Kendler. 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:44.840 So like I said, Marco had no idea that this 1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:49.880 wasn't normal. He read the report, he was shocked to 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:52.120 learn he'd been part of the experiment. He reached out 1:13:52.200 --> 1:13:56.040 to Sven, and Sven like couldn't even process it. He like, 1:13:56.120 --> 1:14:02.559 couldn't even take it in. And Marco said, like, yeah, 1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:06.560 we basically learned to have no emotions, Like anytime I 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:08.400 had an emotion, it would just like hit up against 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:11.360 a wall kind of, And he said, and then as 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:14.040 an adult, he couldn't really hold down a job, he 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:17.519 would see people who reminded him of his foster father, 1:14:17.760 --> 1:14:20.120 and every time he saw somebody that reminded him of him, 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:22.160 he would feel like a death. He would feel like 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:24.280 his heart stop beating and like his color would drain, 1:14:24.320 --> 1:14:26.400 and he would just feel like he died. So it 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:28.320 was hard to like be a postal worker or like 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:33.160 some of the jobs that he was attempting to do. So, yeah, 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:35.560 Marco says, I remember, like if Sven's bedroom door was 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:38.439 open and he and he wasn't in his room, I 1:14:38.520 --> 1:14:39.880 knew what was happening, but. 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:41.160 The two boys never talked about it. 1:14:41.439 --> 1:14:44.880 He goes, quote it was an absolutely taboo subject, is 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:49.599 what Marco said. So, and like what's super sad too, 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:53.479 is that the entire time that Marco is in custody 1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:55.799 of this guy, his mother is trying to get custody 1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:59.080 of him again. She's trying to see him, and every 1:14:59.120 --> 1:15:02.519 time they have a visit Henkel is she's canceling. 1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:05.240 He's canceling the visits at the last minute. He's disrupting 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:05.799 the visits. 1:15:06.000 --> 1:15:09.120 He's creating like situations to make it look like all 1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:12.200 these psychological symptoms of abuse that Marco is suffering from 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:16.639 are like bedwetting, struggling in school, bad behavior, as marks 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:19.960 against the mother, saying oh, every time he sees his mother, 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:23.360 it just sets off these psychological aftershocks that like he 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:26.000 really shouldn't have visits with her anymore. And then on 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:29.559 top of that, Henkel and Kentler are disparaging the mother 1:15:29.720 --> 1:15:32.479 left and right openly in front of him, and so 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:37.280 Marko eventually just completely rejected his mother. And Marco had 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:41.200 no friends, he had no connected relationships really with anybody, 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.400 and Henkel encouraged him to act out in school. He 1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:47.759 would give him rewards for spitting, for talking out in class, 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:50.880 for acting badly. He skipped school all the time, and 1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:53.360 he rarely did his homework. And then guess what, you 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.680 get to switch schools, which was his plan. If you 1:15:56.720 --> 1:16:00.759 keep switching schools, no one can like document this abuse 1:16:00.760 --> 1:16:03.840 that's happening or these symptoms, you know, So that was 1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:04.759 obviously his plan. 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:08.879 It's so insidious, it's so gross. 1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:13.439 So eventually Marco started working out to be strong enough 1:16:13.439 --> 1:16:16.400 to defend himself, and one time he fought back and 1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:19.680 Henkel stopped molesting him but started being punitive, like he 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:24.040 started withholding his food hitting him, abusing him. And so 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:28.519 when Marco was eighteen, obviously legally free to emancipate to 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:30.559 go out on his own, it didn't even occur to 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:34.120 him to move out. Marco said, it's very hard to describe, 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:37.280 but I was never raised to think critically about anything. 1:16:37.520 --> 1:16:42.200 I had an empty mind. He just never thought, oh wow, 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:44.080 I'm finally eighteen. I can't get out of here. I 1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:45.400 can have a life, I can do this, I can 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:48.679 do that. Like it's never not to mention he's probably 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:51.880 not doing well in school because he's abused and having 1:16:51.920 --> 1:16:52.719 all these effects. 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:55.439 But also as a foster mother is like act like a. 1:16:55.360 --> 1:16:57.320 Dick in school, do what you want, you know, like 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:00.479 just like breaking him down and ruining his life like 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:04.200 peace by piece. And so probably wouldn't shock you to 1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:07.960 find out that Kentler himself had foster and adopted children, 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:13.240 one of like there's obviously no documentation that he abused them, 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.679 there's one of them that they think he sexually abused 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:16.760 or that there's proof of it. 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:18.840 And I don't think it would shock anyone to hear this. 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:21.720 And one of his sons eventually took his own life 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:24.960 in nineteen ninety one and which Kentler said, Oh, it's 1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:26.400 not because I sexually abused. 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:27.880 Him, as his birth mother sexually abused him. 1:17:28.160 --> 1:17:33.360 Okay, jan So anyway, after his son's his foster son's death, 1:17:33.920 --> 1:17:38.879 he apparently changed his mind on pedophiles having sexual contact 1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:42.160 with children, and he described pedophilia as a sexual disorder 1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:45.400 in nineteen ninety nine disorder crime. 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:47.200 Yes, like what yes? 1:17:47.320 --> 1:17:47.599 Fuck? 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:49.519 And I guess what happened. 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:51.599 What contributed to this besides the death of his son 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:55.960 was he read this paper called Confusion of the Tongues 1:17:56.000 --> 1:18:01.040 between Adults and the Child parentheses thefanguage of tenderness and 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:03.519 of passion and parentheses. I don't love the title of this, 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:07.560 but it is by Sandor Farensi, who is a Hungarian 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:11.360 psychoanalyst who wrote about how sexualized relationships between adult and 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:16.559 children are always asymmetrical, exploitative, and destructive because these are 1:18:16.560 --> 1:18:19.920 not two equal people. Basically what we always say, like 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:21.519 the same as a teacher having. 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:23.920 Some they know it, yeah, Like that's the thing. It's 1:18:24.000 --> 1:18:25.080 like they fucking know it. 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:28.320 Yeah, like telling him to not act right in school, 1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:29.640 Like fuck. 1:18:29.600 --> 1:18:32.280 It's like a teacher raping a student. Sure, the student 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:34.840 maybe thinks his teacher's hot, and that it's hot to 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:36.519 have sex with a teacher. 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:38.800 The relationship is not equal. 1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:42.200 There is a power dynamic, right, so it is not 1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:46.599 good and this Farensi guy also wrote that children's quote 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:50.880 personalities are not sufficially consolidated in order to be able 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:55.520 to protest, and that children will quote subordinate themselves like automata. 1:18:56.120 --> 1:18:59.240 They become oblivious of their own needs and identify themselves with. 1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:02.519 The aggressor, is what the New Yorker writes about this paper. 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:08.880 So yeah, nothing happens to Kentler in he dies in 1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:11.040 like I think eight he dies. 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:12.360 In twenty twenty. 1:19:12.840 --> 1:19:16.559 A report is prepared by scientists called Helmet Kenler's work 1:19:16.560 --> 1:19:18.880 in Berlin Child and Youth Services and is presented in 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:20.240 Berlin in twenty twenty. 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:22.880 In this same report, the author. 1:19:22.680 --> 1:19:26.200 Said that in the thousands of unorganized files they find 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:29.479 on this experiment, no names are revealed, but the authors 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:32.919 wrote quote, these foster homes were run by sometimes powerful 1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:35.120 men who lived alone and who were given this power 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:42.839 by academia, research, research institutions, and other pedagogical environments that accepted, supported, 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:46.439 or even lived out pedophile stances. They also wrote that 1:19:46.520 --> 1:19:50.360 quote quote unquote senate actors had been part of this network, 1:19:50.720 --> 1:19:54.599 while others had turned the other cheek because quote icons 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:58.559 of educational reform policies supported such arrangements. So essentially saying 1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:02.080 what we're seeing about Epstein is that it's all these 1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:05.479 powerful people, it's people in government, and in this case, 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:08.519 they're going, well, we've got this guy named Kenler who's 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:11.519 telled us that this is all supported by science and 1:20:12.479 --> 1:20:17.479 psychological study, so it's all good. And after the report 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:20.599 was presented, the Berlin Senator for Education did promise those 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:25.240 affected by the abuse in this experiment financial compensation, So 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:29.720 I mean, it's not real close to enough, but they 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:32.599 are planning to as of twenty twenty, I mean, as 1:20:32.640 --> 1:20:36.360 of twenty twenty, trying to compensate the victims. And I 1:20:36.400 --> 1:20:39.080 would I mean, I'm gonna link to the New Yorker 1:20:39.200 --> 1:20:41.519 article for what would Sister peg do, probably because it 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:45.799 is really much longer and in depth and goes into 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:48.800 more of Kenler's upbringing and things like that. 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:53.000 But it's just it seems to me. 1:20:53.080 --> 1:20:55.240 Like this is just a pedophile who did a bunch 1:20:55.240 --> 1:20:59.519 of quote unquote psychological research to excuse their own urges, 1:21:00.520 --> 1:21:04.839 and it costs, Like the fact that it was state 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:08.799 funded is so fucked up, like funded by the government. 1:21:09.280 --> 1:21:12.599 Yeah, it's everyone going, yeah, exactly, Yeah, the two dumb 1:21:12.600 --> 1:21:16.320 bitches going exactly. Well, I mean the government was like 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:20.160 sterilizing black people against their will. Yeah, I don't really, 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:25.160 I don't hold the government at high esteem, right, And 1:21:25.200 --> 1:21:27.200 they're probably like, well, we have to find homes for 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:31.360 these foster children, so why not put them in at 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:32.639 a pedo you know. 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:35.360 And then of course, like obviously another part of this 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:38.360 episode is like sex tourism and all that kind of stuff. 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:41.360 But what I've understood from sex tourism is it's more 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:43.559 like what we were talking about earlier, which is like 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:48.600 men go to the Philippines, to Thailand and various countries 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.880 and they commit these crimes and then they go back 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.120 to the United States. I wasn't understanding that a lot 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:58.200 of them are like bringing back children as their adopted children, 1:21:58.240 --> 1:21:59.919 but I'm sure that also happens. 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:05.160 Well, yeah, and it's the merchandise that episode with the 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:10.600 guy from Evil, Yes, you know, it's like they don't. 1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:14.920 What is it? Guns? Drugs? Humans? Yeah? 1:22:14.960 --> 1:22:18.960 What how did it say in the episode that Jose 1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:25.080 and Arnesto got to this charter sailboat, so because he 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:27.160 has parents that are looking for him, right. 1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:29.000 Yeah, but they thought he was going to go to 1:22:29.040 --> 1:22:31.519 the school. But we've always talked about it, like, no 1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:34.920 one's trying to help your kids stop right, no one 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:37.519 wants to like yeah, it's. 1:22:37.880 --> 1:22:39.320 No one's trying to help your kid in a way 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.600 that requires you not being with them, you know what 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:43.320 I mean. If it's like, oh, we want to put 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:45.040 your kid into this program and like you would go 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.160 with him every Saturday and he would like that, maybe 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:50.479 that's like legit, you know, not we need to take 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:53.120 your kid. Like it's like, yeah, I don't know. It's 1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:56.559 like the parents that let Ki the kids with Michael Jackson. 1:22:56.880 --> 1:23:01.080 But what about like boarding school, summer camp could be suspicious, 1:23:01.120 --> 1:23:03.280 you know what I mean, sending your kid anywhere? 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:03.880 That's true too. 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:05.840 I'm like the number one proponent of sleep away camp 1:23:05.840 --> 1:23:08.360 and I'm like, yeah, away from your and you know that. 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:13.920 But it's yeah, okay, well we don't have a guest 1:23:13.960 --> 1:23:20.240 this episode, so let's just dive right into that post mortem. 1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:23.800 Okay, that's like crazy, and like, you know, since it's 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:27.280 Pride Month, I will say like in terms of this episode, 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:33.599 it's like being homophobic enables pedophiles because you're like by 1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:36.439 saying like, oh and I just watched the Rosie Perez 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:38.920 one too, so I'm like namble in my mind. But 1:23:39.040 --> 1:23:41.439 this idea of like we're discriminated against it is just 1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:43.040 child adult love. 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:44.799 We're just like gay people. 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.479 And it's like if you are homophobic, then that argument, 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:49.480 you know what I mean, it like gives it validity. 1:23:49.920 --> 1:23:54.200 Like if you think being gay is perverted and like 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:58.519 perverse or whatever, then like it's easy to or if 1:23:58.520 --> 1:24:00.760 you think all gay people are pedophle, like it makes 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:02.519 it easier for these people to have a leg to 1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:06.680 stand on. It's like another reason why like homophobia is bad. 1:24:06.800 --> 1:24:09.080 And yeah, someone is a quote where oh Morgan Freeman 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:10.519 is a quote. It's like, you don't have a phobia. 1:24:10.560 --> 1:24:13.320 You're not scared of gay people. You're you're a fucking bigot, 1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:14.920 you know. Yeah, I hate even. 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:17.400 The language, right a rachnophobia. 1:24:17.439 --> 1:24:19.719 You're scared of a spider, you are scared, you are running, 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:21.439 you know, you're not scared to be in the same 1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:24.479 room with a person that's gay. You just want to 1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:28.479 control people. I really don't know what it is. But yes, 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:31.720 the thing about NAMBLA is the good thing is is 1:24:31.760 --> 1:24:34.080 it feels like it's a step too far for most people. 1:24:34.160 --> 1:24:37.040 Like even the people that are like freedom of speech 1:24:37.080 --> 1:24:42.400 warriors and like the biggest bigots are like, it's. 1:24:42.280 --> 1:24:44.040 Not true, but I don't support these people. 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:47.400 No, that's not true because that's only with little boys 1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:50.960 and gay they're the child marriage is legal in most states, 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:53.240 you know what I mean, Like they're totally fine marrying 1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:54.400 off a thirteen year old girl. 1:24:54.439 --> 1:24:56.360 Oh no, no, no, but I'm saying NAMBLA is a 1:24:56.360 --> 1:24:58.559 step too far for them, not like not like the 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:00.559 age difference like emb for. 1:25:00.520 --> 1:25:03.439 Most I'm like, no, they still go to church as 1:25:03.479 --> 1:25:09.080 their priests molest their children like they are I feeah yeah. 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:11.479 Like I mean, I'm just saying, like NAMBLET doesn't have 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:14.720 like a huge underground swell of supporters of people that 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:16.719 are like I mean, I actually think it's totally fine 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:21.720 like most Like I was reading that people who even these. 1:25:21.479 --> 1:25:25.400 Like horrible like a lot of like horrible. 1:25:25.000 --> 1:25:28.040 Like people were like, well, I don't like, but I 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:30.519 don't like NAMBLA, Like they'll be like they'll be like 1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:33.240 anti Semitic people like horrible bigots that are like but 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:35.280 not these guys, like we're not like, you know, because 1:25:35.280 --> 1:25:35.799 it's criminal. 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:38.800 But it also makes me wonder, like what is the 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:41.760 percentage of pedophiles who think they're doing nothing wrong? And 1:25:41.800 --> 1:25:43.920 even those that are nambler, like, do they know they're 1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:46.280 actually doing something wrong and it's the cover and like 1:25:46.320 --> 1:25:48.759 they think it's love and consensual whatever and it's natural 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:51.320 and the Bible told them it's fine and Greek people 1:25:51.360 --> 1:25:54.160 did it, you know, or whatever people say, or how 1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:57.120 many of it, like the people know it's wrong and 1:25:57.160 --> 1:25:59.839 get off on the torture pay and all of that stuff. 1:26:00.320 --> 1:26:02.120 I do wonder they both hurt children. 1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:04.280 I am just curious about the inner workings of a 1:26:04.320 --> 1:26:06.720 pedophile and how many know what they're doing is bad 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:12.200 or they truly think it's some positive thing for this child. 1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:18.040 I mean, I have to think that it's like a 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:21.720 way of coping with the fact that you know you're 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:24.360 doing something wrong. It's like you're you're you're you've created 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:27.160 an excuse for it, like oh no, they actually like 1:26:27.160 --> 1:26:28.960 love it and we're actually in a relationship and it's 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:34.760 amazing and yeh no. I was like so shocked to 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:37.360 learn so much about what I learned researching this episode. 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:39.280 Like not just I mean we have I've always known 1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:44.400 about Nambla, but like this this uh sexologist and all 1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:46.280 this shit that went down in Germany. 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:47.200 It's like so fucked. 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:55.640 But yeah, I guess the post mortem on this episode. 1:26:56.080 --> 1:27:00.200 Never trust a man that place squash, Yeah, if never 1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:03.679 let a single man adopt children. And if any man 1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:07.479 goes to Central America, he's a pedophile, Like they cannot. 1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:09.400 Men should not be able to go on vacation alone. 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:12.519 That's that's actually what we've learned. That's the main post mortem. Yeah, 1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:14.639 men should not be able to travel alone. 1:27:15.280 --> 1:27:16.800 Yeah, you should, like there should be like a no 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:18.439 fly list of just men that are like I just 1:27:18.439 --> 1:27:20.599 wanted to check out Thailand. I just wanted to see 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:23.200 it and none of my friends were available, so here I. 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:24.800 Am like no. 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.160 And this idea of when the tie like weird guys 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:30.360 that go to like Asia to get quote unquote submissive 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:34.040 women or like they're just more submissive here, and it's like, no, 1:27:34.160 --> 1:27:36.960 they know how to act to get money because it's survival. 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:37.719 You dumb fuck. 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:39.880 You think they're just like submissive because they want to 1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:41.000 But you know what I mean, and it's not like 1:27:41.280 --> 1:27:43.200 the culture creates it. 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:47.280 It's like they're playing you as well or not playing you. 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:49.160 It's dire. It's not games. 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:52.240 It's just like this idea that it's their culture to 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:54.519 be submissive versus like what you need to do to 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:56.479 survive and make money or do whatever to get out 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:57.559 of a country, you know what I mean. 1:27:57.840 --> 1:28:01.280 Yeah, But also circling back to what you were saying before, 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:08.840 it is really crazy how there is this disgust for 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:13.640 NAMBLA and not for oh, like I'm nineteen and I 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:16.080 have a fourteen year old girlfriend, or like just not 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.519 waiting for people to develop their frontal cortex so that 1:28:19.560 --> 1:28:21.919 they can make decisions on their own life because. 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:22.280 That's what they're into. 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:24.760 Chloe Cherry who's in Euphoria, who is like a porn 1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:26.000 star for a long time. I don't know if she 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:29.599 still does porn but in an interview shoot, and it's 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.760 obvious if you like or know anything about it. But 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:36.320 it's like they once you're twenty two year old, like 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.280 you could be a milf at twenty eight and porn 1:28:38.439 --> 1:28:43.680 like what cells is eighteen? Like I think men or 1:28:43.760 --> 1:28:46.000 pedophiles deep down, Like I don't like that, and that 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:49.240 leads the culture and and now it's been proven like 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:52.559 besides us like being like, oh, conspiracy theory, It's like, no, 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:55.080 the people that created the fashion while we were growing 1:28:55.200 --> 1:28:58.559 up and the trends were pedophiles and like these people 1:28:58.600 --> 1:29:04.080 want to rape children, and so it's like, yeah, but 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:06.719 I think so, I think, and we've like talked about 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:09.599 this before. It's like, because there is a twenty eight 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:12.080 year old that can have just as banging of a 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:14.519 physical body as an eighteen year old, right, Or a 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:16.559 thirty eight year old can have like just as banging 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:18.800 of a body as an eighteen year old. Yeah, it's 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:22.040 the fact that you feel like you could just like 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:24.640 control this person and tell them what to do, and 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:28.000 like they're just like raising they would just look up to. 1:29:27.960 --> 1:29:31.040 You and go, oh my god, you're so in charge. 1:29:31.040 --> 1:29:33.439 You're powerful or smart or whatever is your kink that 1:29:33.479 --> 1:29:35.639 you want to be perceived as that they're just these 1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:36.640 blank canvases. 1:29:37.360 --> 1:29:39.960 Yes, because if you're thirty eight with a bang and 1:29:40.040 --> 1:29:42.040 body and have everything going for you, like you probably 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:45.160 wouldn't be impressed with the men that date children, right, right, 1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:47.360 Like anything they do would not be impressive. But yeah, 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:49.559 Chloe's Sherry was just and I you and you see 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:52.480 it when you're on porn site. It's like eighteen freshot 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:58.439 like that's what that's what the main that's what they want. 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:00.640 And they're like there's this porn start Sha Gray and 1:30:00.720 --> 1:30:02.800 I feel like I've mentioned her before, but like so hot, 1:30:02.800 --> 1:30:05.120 probably one of the most beautiful people ever, and like 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:08.439 people like the comments are so rude of like why 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:09.120 don't you look like this? 1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:09.960 Why don't you do this? 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:11.760 And she's like, well, now I'm twenty seven and then 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:15.439 I was eighteen, so like what are you talking about? 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:18.320 And like, yeah, that we're that even the idea that 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:20.439 you should have the same body you had in high 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:24.240 school and that that's what everyone should be working towards 1:30:24.439 --> 1:30:27.800 is crazy. Yeah, I mean body stuff, all of it. 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:30.680 And it's like when you bring up these things in 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:34.160 terms of feminism or just like whatever, it's seen like 1:30:34.280 --> 1:30:36.960 too much or you're nitpicking, but it's like it all 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:39.200 is a symptom of stuff and all connects and it 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:42.160 all is symbolic of huge stuff. Like when I hear 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:44.360 people talking about like now that like muscles are in 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:48.439 like how long, Like the propaganda that like lifting weights 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:50.439 would make you look like a man for women. 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:52.880 Oh yeah, Like I was watching a. 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:55.920 Man talk about it, where it's like that is patriarchal 1:30:55.920 --> 1:30:58.640 propaganda to make sure that you're not strong so you 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:01.599 can get thrown around in murdered and thrown in a river. 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:03.519 You know, my gosh, wow. 1:31:03.600 --> 1:31:05.280 Yeah, I didn't even think about it that way, but 1:31:05.400 --> 1:31:09.280 like I Chracy Anderson and that was like the whole 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:12.400 thing was super super lightweight because you don't want to 1:31:12.400 --> 1:31:14.719 get bulky, you don't want to get too. 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:18.200 Even though science is like, no, we all should be 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:21.400 building our muscle for osteoporosis so we're ready or whatever 1:31:21.439 --> 1:31:22.360 it is or muscle a lot. 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:25.120 I don't know. I'm not a scientist, but it is. 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:28.800 It's really cool to see the new wave of fitness 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:33.120 be like strong strength, fight like and. 1:31:33.040 --> 1:31:35.240 I think part of it also people are talking about 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:38.760 perimenopause a lot more like women are talking more about perimenopause, 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:42.400 and that whole thing is like you gotta start hooting, 1:31:42.479 --> 1:31:44.240 you gotta get your muscle mass up. 1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:46.559 Like, but that's also so connects right now that you 1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:49.280 mentioned it to pedophilia and patriarchy, because it's just like 1:31:50.360 --> 1:31:52.920 men don't care about old women. Yeah, so there's no 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:55.200 research ever that there was no research made. 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.160 No one gave a fuck it is. 1:31:58.680 --> 1:32:01.639 It's so perverse and sick, and it's like then we're 1:32:01.680 --> 1:32:05.920 meant to like seem sillier. We're over exaggerating or like 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:08.680 about these little things that quote unquote don't matter. But 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:10.760 it's like they do matter when it's all piled up 1:32:10.760 --> 1:32:13.400 on each other and you have to fight it, and 1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:14.720 then it's like, well, if you don't like it, do it. 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:17.679 And it's like fighting against the grain is not an 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:21.320 easy path, yeah, because people always like to say like 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:24.200 you say it like it is. I'm like tons of consequences, 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:31.200 like constant consequences to trying to fight people, you know 1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:33.679 what I mean, or the system, like even me playing 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:37.479 football in eighth grade, Like I got the shit beat 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:41.040 out of me. And I'm not talking because it's football, 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:42.640 but because they hated me. 1:32:43.160 --> 1:32:44.360 Yeah, you know. 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:49.880 And it's just like it's just always, it's just always yeah, 1:32:49.920 --> 1:32:52.000 and then yeah, yeah tough. 1:32:52.320 --> 1:32:52.679 Damn. 1:32:52.800 --> 1:32:54.719 I didn't know they gave you like an extra hard 1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:56.200 time on the football team. 1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:59.000 Oh yeah, there's this game where it's like, you know, 1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:00.920 someone starts in the middle and everyone runs, and then 1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:02.840 whoever that person tackles ends up in the middle, and 1:33:02.840 --> 1:33:03.800 then you keep running back and. 1:33:03.720 --> 1:33:04.679 Forth until the last house. 1:33:05.160 --> 1:33:07.439 They left me for last on top all the time 1:33:07.479 --> 1:33:09.760 on purpose, so then they could all beat the shit 1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:12.720 out of me. Or like we would be scrimmaging in 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:14.600 practice and it would be over and I'd get just 1:33:14.640 --> 1:33:17.280 fucking rocked. Or like one time we were playing another 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:21.000 team and someone grabbed my face mask and started headbutting 1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:23.120 my chin, and I had like a giant bruise on 1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:25.240 my chin. I told you, like my school thought I 1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:27.000 was being abused. We had to have a whole meeting 1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:31.080 with my family. What the fight you were? Like football? 1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:34.920 I was just bruised and like the game is rough, 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:37.280 but like the like yeah, they didn't want ye. 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:39.439 They were like, if we give her the right bruise, 1:33:39.479 --> 1:33:42.439 she'll quit. Like if we get her good, she'll quit. 1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:49.519 Yeah, And obviously, like that was my young brain's idea 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:52.479 of what feminism is, like I should join this guy thing, 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:55.680 so you know, but I was in eighth grade and 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:56.639 that's just what I thought. 1:33:57.080 --> 1:33:59.479 Dude, that's that's so fucking nuts. 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:02.280 Oh. They and I would also have like two braids 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:05.760 under my helmet and they would pull the braids and 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:10.360 throw me to the ground. Yeah, that's like a movie. 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:12.479 That's why I want anyone at the comedy cellar and 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:13.280 stuff fucks with me. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:15.160 I'm like, you guys don't even know you. 1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:17.720 It's like those videos, those old like meme videos that 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:19.400 are like you think you can hurt me. I was 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:21.439 the only girl on my eighth grade football team and 1:34:21.479 --> 1:34:23.240 they fucking tortured and. 1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:26.280 I had my period and white pants wearing a pad. 1:34:27.840 --> 1:34:30.400 My god, oh my god. 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:35.839 So I'm like perioding in white tight pants getting rocked. 1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:38.720 Like nobody can ever say you haven't done the work 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:39.480 for feminism. 1:34:39.560 --> 1:34:44.200 No one can say it. That's fucking insane. 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:46.680 And now like people are coming around to like kind 1:34:46.720 --> 1:34:48.559 of hating Chris Rock a little bit, Like people are like, yeah, 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:50.559 he was so rude during the comics. Who's the worst 1:34:50.560 --> 1:34:53.160 shut He's this and that, And it's like I just 1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:58.439 am always ahead, always ahead. Come you guys will all 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:00.840 catch up to me at some point in terms of 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:02.880 man hatred. And I don't know where this came from, 1:35:02.880 --> 1:35:05.439 like because in third grade I told my parents I 1:35:05.520 --> 1:35:09.720 was not having children, Like, I don't know, is it 1:35:09.720 --> 1:35:10.600 because I watched. 1:35:10.320 --> 1:35:14.760 The Nanny, Like, I don't know where this is all 1:35:14.800 --> 1:35:18.040 friend Dreasure's vault. Yeah, yeah, I am so curious. 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:20.800 But you know, I think about like brave kids that 1:35:20.920 --> 1:35:22.960 know they need to like escape cults, Like how do 1:35:23.080 --> 1:35:23.360 you know? 1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:24.479 How do you know that? 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:27.400 Like an innate sense of what is right and what 1:35:27.520 --> 1:35:29.519 is wrong and what is for you and what is 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:30.120 not for you? 1:35:30.479 --> 1:35:34.400 But how does that happen when you're like in a cult? 1:35:34.479 --> 1:35:36.599 Like I think about these kids that escape cults all 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:40.599 the time, and like they just knew something was up, yes, knew, 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:43.800 or religion anything where or you realize your parents don't know, 1:35:44.160 --> 1:35:50.599 or like yeah it's I just where does it come from? Well? 1:35:50.640 --> 1:35:53.360 I also just knew that my mom cleaned and cooked 1:35:53.360 --> 1:35:56.920 and did everything and worked and I didn't like it. 1:36:00.960 --> 1:36:01.880 I just saw that. 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.160 And my sister too, She's like I saw mom cleaning 1:36:04.200 --> 1:36:06.360 on the weekends while us with dad would go do 1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:09.439 fun stuff, and I said, never, never will that be? 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:12.200 Oh see, I thought it's so cool. 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:15.440 My mom is like a doctor and like the boss, 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:17.759 Like my mom made more money than my father. 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:20.120 Yeah, so let's add that to the mixes. We I 1:36:20.160 --> 1:36:25.240 didn't know that until I was older. But yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:26.719 but my dad worked very hard. 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:28.559 He just had to work more while my mom got 1:36:28.600 --> 1:36:30.760 to go to call like school to learn English. 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:33.320 Like it's not like my dad was some you know chump. 1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:35.000 He was working, like he was waking up at four 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:37.000 thirty in the morning, all activities. 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:37.599 But it is. 1:36:38.160 --> 1:36:39.880 And I'm glad I had a dad that hung out 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:42.360 with me and rollerbladed and did all these things. But like, 1:36:42.439 --> 1:36:44.800 it sucks that my mom missed out, but it was 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.360 also her only time to be alone. So she liked 1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:51.040 us all leaving because cleaning was the only time she 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:52.400 could get rid of us. 1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:54.800 That's I can relate to. 1:36:54.840 --> 1:36:54.960 That. 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:57.000 I can relate to that. 1:36:58.240 --> 1:37:01.280 Jared took the kids out last Sunday for like an 1:37:01.320 --> 1:37:04.200 hour to go get food and I just talked on 1:37:04.240 --> 1:37:05.920 the phone with a friend for like an hour, and 1:37:05.960 --> 1:37:07.720 I was like like just lying on my bed. I 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:09.960 was like, I never do this. I never talked to 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:13.519 somebody in the middle of the day like and just chat. 1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:16.080 Yeah, but what do you think about I mean, we 1:37:16.240 --> 1:37:18.120 need to wrap this up, but like it is this 1:37:18.200 --> 1:37:22.560 thing I've been seeing where you didn't have to be 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:25.320 as active above a parent back in the day. Yeah, 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:28.800 like my mom talks on the phone, you know what 1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:31.280 I mean. Well, but like we weren't expected to spend 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.240 this as much time. I've just seen this online, so 1:37:33.280 --> 1:37:35.759 I don't know the realities. No, it's a hundred percent, 1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:38.360 it's one hundred percent. Like you would also just say 1:37:38.360 --> 1:37:38.639 go out. 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:40.439 They would just say go out and play, and like 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:43.160 my kids do that too, like a small extent, but 1:37:43.200 --> 1:37:45.240 they expect to be entertained all the time, and like 1:37:45.280 --> 1:37:46.719 they want our attention all the time. 1:37:46.920 --> 1:37:47.679 It's just different. 1:37:48.040 --> 1:37:51.960 Yeah, Like Sundays and Saturdays, I remember like sitting around 1:37:52.000 --> 1:37:54.920 the house having to go to Hebrew school. After Hebrew School, 1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:57.040 my dad take me to the goddamn hardware store for 1:37:57.080 --> 1:37:59.320 an hour while I sat there like staring into space. 1:37:59.800 --> 1:38:01.439 I would not get away with ten minutes of that. 1:38:01.640 --> 1:38:03.920 Like they would just be like what are we doing here? 1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:06.680 I mean, they would whine until I died. So I 1:38:06.680 --> 1:38:08.599 don't know. I don't know what we set ourselves up for. 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:12.479 But it's different. And then my parents look at me 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:14.920 like why don't you why can't you get this under control? 1:38:14.920 --> 1:38:16.800 And I'm like, oh, because we're not allowed to hit them. 1:38:17.200 --> 1:38:19.640 We can't hit them. We can't smack them. How do 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:20.960 they react when you say that? 1:38:21.360 --> 1:38:23.759 They're like they laugh, they think it's funny. 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:26.519 And then and I go and like, you're not supposed 1:38:26.520 --> 1:38:28.200 to send them to their rooms, Like I mean, you 1:38:28.240 --> 1:38:30.920 can separate them whatever for like like I need to 1:38:30.920 --> 1:38:32.880 separate you because you're hurting somebody or whatever, but like, 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:34.880 you don't go just We had a chair in my 1:38:34.960 --> 1:38:37.200 house that was called the chair, and it was go 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.680 sit in the chair, and it was just facing the 1:38:39.720 --> 1:38:41.479 wall of our dining room and you just had to 1:38:41.520 --> 1:38:42.200 sit and stare at the. 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:44.479 Wall until our parents told you could get up? Are 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:44.920 you kidding? 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:48.000 I could never My kids would never fucking do that, 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:48.960 And I wouldn't want. 1:38:48.840 --> 1:38:49.080 To do that. 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:50.000 No. 1:38:50.160 --> 1:38:51.360 I also love. 1:38:52.640 --> 1:38:55.880 The videos of like parents having to discipline their kids 1:38:55.960 --> 1:38:58.000 but they just want to laugh so hard because like, 1:38:58.000 --> 1:39:03.040 oh yeah, but they have to discipline, but they're just like, loo, 1:39:04.840 --> 1:39:05.439 it's so. 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:08.599 Hard, especially like when Oscar will swear now and it's 1:39:08.680 --> 1:39:11.120 so funny coming out of his little mouth and I'm like, stop, 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:13.719 don't talk like that. You can't, but like I can't 1:39:14.040 --> 1:39:18.599 stop laughing. But okay, let's move on to what would 1:39:18.640 --> 1:39:23.600 sister Peg do? This is our weekly segment where we 1:39:23.880 --> 1:39:27.520 direct you towards an article, a blog, a documentary. 1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:29.639 I love to say a blog, a doc like. 1:39:29.720 --> 1:39:32.880 A movie, something to give you more info, or an 1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.640 organization where you can donate. But this week, obviously I 1:39:35.640 --> 1:39:38.280 don't want you donating to NAMBLA. So I wanted to 1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:39.880 just point you guys to the article in The New 1:39:39.960 --> 1:39:42.000 Yorker that I used for part of my sources in 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:44.519 my research, because it's actually super interesting. 1:39:44.560 --> 1:39:45.280 It's very long. 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.879 I didn't have time to cover like every aspect of it. 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:50.280 It's one of those like long New Yorker reads that 1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:52.080 you can like curl up with for a long time. 1:39:52.320 --> 1:39:55.360 It's called the German Experiment that placed foster children with 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:58.559 pedophiles by Rachel Avive, and it gets into all the 1:39:58.600 --> 1:40:03.880 details behind this horrific experiment of German psychologists and sexologist 1:40:04.000 --> 1:40:07.920 Helmut Kenler. 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