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Speaker 1: far there, Mark, Well, alright, moving on, so right now

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Speaker 1: it's a no. But wow, that's good though, I'm sorry. Alright,

426
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Speaker 1: moving on. The Houston Texans UH one of the worst

427
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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL because of their ghastly game of

428
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Speaker 1: musical chairs going on. Brian Hoyer back in the starting lineup,

429
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Speaker 1: and he faces a Jacksonville Jaguars team that has not

430
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: been forked by us there one and four. They've had

431
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: good play from their quarterback, which is getting getting certain

432
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Speaker 1: individuals very excited at this table um, perhaps everyone at

433
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Speaker 1: this table. But if they don't beat the Houston Texans,

434
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Speaker 1: come on, WESA. The Jaguars need Send Mars has played

435
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Speaker 1: all year, he's coming back from a cl surgery. He

436
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: should be back any game now, and he's the best

437
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Speaker 1: defensive player. Last week, Paul pauz Lesni, who has been

438
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Speaker 1: their leading tackler, was out too. And without those two guys,

439
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Speaker 1: they're just not a very good defense. So maybe they can,

440
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: maybe they can become a little frisky with those two

441
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Speaker 1: guys back in the lineup in the next few weeks.

442
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Speaker 1: They really have struggled to find big time difference makers

443
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Speaker 1: on defense. It's an okay team defense, but it is

444
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Speaker 1: no better than the day Gus Bradley started really in

445
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Speaker 1: terms of identifying guys that you think, Okay, that guy

446
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Speaker 1: might make a Pro Bowl or that guy could be

447
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Speaker 1: a future All pros And Derek Marks, I would say,

448
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: was the one guy that they've had in three years

449
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Speaker 1: and he hasn't played at all. This the first their

450
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Speaker 1: first overall pick or the third overall pick in the draft,

451
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Speaker 1: that guy would have helped as well. Yeah, but it

452
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Speaker 1: doesn't help that the contrast of Dan Quinn, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: his replacement as defensive coordinator of the Seahawks goes to

454
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Speaker 1: Atlanta and with a lot of the same players, has

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Speaker 1: them looking completely different. Well, let's give some love to

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Speaker 1: board Les, you know on this show. What what is

457
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Speaker 1: it that gets you going West? Because when I when

458
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Speaker 1: I watched him, I think he's thrown in five or

459
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Speaker 1: six Wow, plays practically a game his whole career where

460
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: he shows it all. He's got pocket movement, he's got

461
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Speaker 1: the big arm, he can put some touch on the pass.

462
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Speaker 1: Like he reminds me, he reminds me mostly of Cam

463
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Speaker 1: Newton and Andrew Luck. I guess if I had to

464
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Speaker 1: pick someone, he reminds me a little bit of John Elway.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Wow? I would say.

466
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Speaker 1: What gets me inside is the same thing that got

467
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Speaker 1: all of us excited in his preseason of his rookie year.

468
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Speaker 1: That he looks like to me a young Ben Roethlisberger.

469
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Speaker 1: That he can move well in the pocket, he's a

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Speaker 1: big body, he's an athlete. He can make all the throws,

471
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Speaker 1: and it seems like he does pretty well on the

472
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Speaker 1: run too. He's aggressive. The difference I guess the last

473
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks watching him is he's just not having

474
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Speaker 1: those big mistakes and he's not having those stretches where

475
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Speaker 1: he's wild. He's still a little wild compared to but

476
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Speaker 1: that's why he reminds me a little bit of Cam Newton.

477
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Speaker 1: Maybe he can be a Cam Newton type of player.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, they finally have some developing talent around him.

479
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: To last year was just they didn't want to play

480
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Speaker 1: him last year. That was the blueprint where gonna put

481
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Speaker 1: Chad Henny in because they knew how bad their protection

482
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Speaker 1: was and how little talent there was, and he bottomed

483
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Speaker 1: out at the end of last season. I mean, game

484
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Speaker 1: after game he's playing better. This We should give Alan

485
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Speaker 1: Hearneson credit. I believe he's like fifth and receiving or

486
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Speaker 1: something to Alan's. If if you have them, you have

487
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Speaker 1: Julius Thomas. I mean that whole plan is coming together.

488
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Speaker 1: On the other side of things, Is there a team

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Speaker 1: that you It's amazing that a team with j J.

490
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Speaker 1: Watt and Jadevian Clowney would be right near the bottom,

491
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Speaker 1: if not the bottom of teams I want to watch

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Speaker 1: play football. Well, it's because of the whole other side

493
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Speaker 1: of the ball, right, But it's just they have to

494
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Speaker 1: be Is that I'm trying to think? Is there? They

495
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Speaker 1: have DeAndre Hopkins too? It was fun to watch, honestly,

496
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Speaker 1: Hoyer and I'm not a Hoyer guy this season. I

497
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Speaker 1: was last year. But he played an excellent that's true,

498
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Speaker 1: an excellent game last time. DeAndre Hopkins had one, just

499
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Speaker 1: a dominant game in that game and got lost in

500
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Speaker 1: the show. There's the problem though. Yeah, Howyer played very

501
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Speaker 1: well when he came on, but he made one of

502
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Speaker 1: the worst passes I've ever seen at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game. He's gonna do that. He's always going to

504
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Speaker 1: be that guy that you start to get in on him,

505
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Speaker 1: you start to get into Cleveland Springsteen, you start to believe,

506
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh wait, this guy is not very

507
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Speaker 1: good there. I mean, they're still in the same bad spot.

508
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Speaker 1: I go back to my theory that they need to

509
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Speaker 1: replace the quarterback switch Malton Hoyer every series because if

510
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Speaker 1: you look statistically what they've done off the bench, when

511
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Speaker 1: they invariably keep putting someone on the bench, the reliever

512
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: has come in and lit it up. But it's anyone

513
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Speaker 1: who starts the game who was prepared for in any

514
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Speaker 1: level thing. It's a disaster what it is. Rennegade connor

515
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Speaker 1: Or was the only one in the group to pick

516
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Speaker 1: the Texans, but so did the fans. The fan consensus

517
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Speaker 1: does not believe in the Jags. I was kind of

518
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Speaker 1: doing overall in the picks. He is one game behind

519
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: West and I he's competitive, and seven games behind Patrick,

520
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: who's doing very well. He's doing it with a lot

521
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Speaker 1: of style. So even just staying in the just just

522
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Speaker 1: you don't get You don't get to provide analysis anymore

523
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Speaker 1: because you're no longer a game picker. Yeah, you were

524
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Speaker 1: about to get critical there. I could tell you were

525
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Speaker 1: about there was a southern other side to that. I

526
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Speaker 1: also like Marx I yeah, earlier that if you put

527
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Speaker 1: like a potato sack or something over your head whenever

528
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: we talk about the picks, it's more like a hostage,

529
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Speaker 1: a black hostage hood over Greg's face. He's not allowed

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Speaker 1: to express opinions or especially be critical of anyone who

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Speaker 1: did participated. How about that great, I'm speechless first time. Alright.

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Speaker 1: Moving on the Cincinnati ben Gals. They are undefeated and

533
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Speaker 1: they just pulled off something wild by coming back from

534
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Speaker 1: seventeen points down um to beat the Seahawks. That is

535
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Speaker 1: something that has not been done to come back in

536
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter down seventeen points uh and then when

537
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Speaker 1: it has not happened since two thousand and eleven, which

538
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Speaker 1: tells you not only they pull it off, they did

539
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Speaker 1: it against historically great defense. Maybe not right now, but

540
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: still a great team. So now they're five and out,

541
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Speaker 1: and now they travel to Buffalo. This is an interesting

542
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Speaker 1: game with the Bills, who have been three and two,

543
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Speaker 1: have been one of the best looking teams in the

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Speaker 1: a f C for three of those weeks, but they

545
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: might not have Tyrod Taylor, and actually there's probably a

546
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Speaker 1: good chance they don't. He practiced in a limited fashion today.

547
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Speaker 1: Rex does not want to make an announcement, but I

548
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Speaker 1: guess our reports that we're hearing is that it will

549
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Speaker 1: be EJ. Manuel behind center, which to me, Greg would

550
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: be a real bummer because if if that wasn't the case,

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Speaker 1: this to me would be a coin foot game. And

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Speaker 1: I still think they could win the game with d J. Manuel.

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Speaker 1: I give Greg Roman, Mark's boy, a lot of credit

554
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Speaker 1: for the offense he's dialed up with Taylor. Now maybe

555
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's a huge drop off from Taylor to Manuel. Uh,

556
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Speaker 1: but the way he's kind of cooked up schemes, it

557
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of what Michael Lombardi used

558
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Speaker 1: to say with battleship offenses or battleship defenses. Greg Roman

559
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: get is out there a little bit and every you know,

560
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Speaker 1: he has a very specific plan for that specific game,

561
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it just hits and guys are open and

562
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Speaker 1: he's gonna score a lot of points. And sometimes it

563
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: doesn't hit at all, and maybe he can get you

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Speaker 1: can get a big hit with d J. Manuel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think from the Bengal side of things. You know, Greg,

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Speaker 1: last week you said that Greg Hardy hid one of

567
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Speaker 1: the best games by a defensive end all season. Carlos

568
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: dun Laps fourth quarter wasn't very very far behind Greg

569
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Speaker 1: Hardy's whole game. Dunlap was wreaking havoc. And and your

570
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Speaker 1: boy pac Man has been awesome this year. He's been terrific.

571
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals defense. Defensive line is really very deep,

572
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Speaker 1: Dunlaps playing great, Walk Atkins is playing great, Wallace Gilberry's

573
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Speaker 1: playing pretty well. And oh, by the way, oh thanks

574
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Speaker 1: for Michael Johnson back now, a solid starter that was

575
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Speaker 1: just like that the Bucks. No, they didn't give them back,

576
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: but they lost him in free agency and got him

577
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Speaker 1: back at a much cheaper price. This is definitely, with

578
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Speaker 1: the most one of the more interesting tests for Dalton

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Speaker 1: so far. I mean, dealing with the Buffalo's defensive line

580
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, which they're a different team there at home.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I really like I am waiting

582
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: for the Stinker games still, but not the same way

583
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Speaker 1: that I was three weeks ago, because something with Dalton

584
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: is so completely different. The first drive last week, when

585
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Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown against Seattle. Two players that we've

586
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Speaker 1: talked about a bunch, Marvin Jones and Effort. He pegged

587
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones with a beautiful throwdown field that he just

588
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: did not make it times last season, and then the

589
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: next play if in the end zone. Well this is

590
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: such a test, uh, going up against Stefan Gilmore and

591
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: cornerback tannem There so physical and we kind of were waiting,

592
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Speaker 1: how's this defense gonna be under Rex Ryan, How's it

593
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: going to be different? Because it was a very good

594
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Speaker 1: different defense last year. And I think how it's different

595
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: is in that secondary. Those two cornerbacks are at another level,

596
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: and Marcel Darius I think is at another level two

597
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: on the defensive line that he's there's another difference. They

598
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: don't get nearly as many sacks as they did under

599
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Speaker 1: the last few defensive coordinate teams are throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: very quickly on him. I think that's that's basically the

601
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Speaker 1: m O. The other thing is I think the linebackers

602
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: have taken a step back. Nigel Bradham and Preston Brown

603
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: are not having a particularly good seasons this year. Uh,

604
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Speaker 1: and they were big time players last year. That's weird

605
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Speaker 1: that the sack total would be so far off when

606
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: two years ago it was a Rex Ryan defense. They

607
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: have nine and the Packers probably have twenty. Mark, you

608
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: took the Bills. I did take the Bills. Why well,

609
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Speaker 1: because my bold prediction this week was that, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dalton was gonna get banged in Buffalo. It's going to

611
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Speaker 1: be his first down game. But again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that means the kind of gaming for instance, he had

613
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night against the Browns last year where it

614
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: was like did he even practice this week? I don't

615
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna see that. But this is gonna be,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, a low scoring game, like a seventeen

617
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Speaker 1: to fourteen type deal. I this guya got lost in

618
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Speaker 1: the shuffle. Maybe not in Buffalo, but I'm surprised you

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Speaker 1: haven't brought it up because you love to pick on

620
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, Rex Ryan and his cronies. Two plays after

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was wrenched and clearly hurt his leg and

622
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Speaker 1: was limping, put him out at wide receiver for a play,

623
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Speaker 1: and then he gets tackled big time out of bounds.

624
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: Two plays after getting hurt. Literally, you have the franchise

625
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: quarterback playing receiver after he got hurt and then he's limping.

626
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: It was just it was one of the worst coaching

627
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: moments of the year. I was wondering where you were

628
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: going with that when you said cronies thought they were

629
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna be like in Rex's basement, smoking cigars and playing poker.

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Speaker 1: I also take you to task on one thing, um

631
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Speaker 1: the you made a comment in your Most Reason QB

632
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Speaker 1: index that you were surprised that it took Rex so

633
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: long to to locate Tyrod Taylor as a starter. Why

634
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Speaker 1: do we give Rex credit? We're always bearing him about

635
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Speaker 1: how he can't figure out how to get a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to play and doesn't have any any idea what to

637
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: do with the position. He got it right in August,

638
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: and now he's got a good quarterback on his hand. Well,

639
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: or that's Doug Whaley bring. I don't think Rex has

640
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: been talking up Tyrod Taylor for years, So let's give

641
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Rex a little QB credit. He's never gotten it before

642
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: this one. He got right in a big way. You're right,

643
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: give him some credit. Maybe Waley was putching manual since

644
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: that was Whaley's Well's first round pick boondogging. He did

645
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: get it right. They took a lot of time there.

646
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna get some money. You gotta paid Tyrod Taylor.

647
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: He keeps us up. You know they went down. They

648
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: did the same thing with Ryan Fitzpatrick. As soon as

649
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: they pay. I don't care. You gotta would you have

650
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: mind Rex Ryan getting Tyrod Taylor the Jets years ago?

651
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: If that's how long he's been fascinating with this player, well,

652
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: that's a let's water under the bridge, Mark. Let's just

653
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: move forward as humans. Uh. Let's move forward to Minnesota

654
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: where the Vikings, who are now sitting at two and

655
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: two and then second place in the NFC North, will

656
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: host the wretched Kansas City Chiefs that one and four

657
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: and now without Jamal Charles who's lost for the year.

658
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Just the devastating setback to the Chiefs and fantasy owners alike,

659
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: including Malina Weintraub, who had Jaal Charles is the first pick,

660
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: it arts, it arts the entire team for listeners that

661
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: it's not her fantasy team. She has no idea, but

662
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: you've named fantasy. We've named our fantasy team after this

663
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: A T and T girl from the commercials. Yes, it's

664
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: slightly creepy. I understand. I'd rather go to a shopping

665
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: mall than cover this game. Yeah, let's less explained to

666
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: me why this game is so unappealing despite having perhaps

667
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: the greatest running back of all time prominently involved. The

668
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs involved, That's all you need to know. What a boring,

669
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: boring team. We thought they might be a little more

670
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: exciting this year, and then their best player goes down,

671
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: unfortunately with a knee injury. But Alex Smith, how do

672
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: you get excited watching a quarterback throw short of the

673
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: sticks and never lead a two minute drill? The Vikings

674
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: have also, it just feels like they've they're a forgotten

675
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: team right now. They're very under the radar. I mean

676
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: they're two and two. They I thought they were going

677
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: to be the big trendy like talked about team. Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy,

678
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: he's he's been fine this year, but he has not.

679
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: I would say it's very early. He's only played four games.

680
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: But the trio of Hyrod, Taylor, Derek Carton Bordles right

681
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: now are the are the three kind of up and

682
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: coming quarterbacks, where Bridgewater has just been kind of steady.

683
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Ye have one really good game, one terrible game, and

684
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: two games in between. Well and Mike Wallace hasn't been

685
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: healthy and Charles Johnson has not been healthy. There, I mean,

686
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: you know that some part of the element. I mean

687
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson, I know we've been waiting for him to

688
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: break after a few years. Mike Wallace isn't Mike Wallace anymore.

689
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I I don't think that they don't have the weapons

690
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: around this guy besides Peterson. At this point, I would

691
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't count them out yet though, because I North

692
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Turner has done this over and over with with offenses.

693
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. It's crazy at this point.

694
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Remember at this point last year, we would always have

695
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: like a weekly Cordorel Patterson update, And now we're at

696
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: the point where Stephen Diggs plays ahead of Cordorel Patterson

697
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: and no one evenin I took him in the third

698
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: round of my fantasy draft last year, and it wasn't

699
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: even thought at the time. It was like, well, that

700
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: makes some sense. He's a big breakout guy. That's how

701
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: high people were. Man, he's gonna he's gonna be used

702
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: in the backfield to don't you know that's a that's

703
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: a savvy looks like the greatest football player in the world.

704
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: How many different ways. Can you write the guy doesn't

705
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: know how to run around? Yeah, I mean it's a

706
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: weird like criticism too. To have such little ability and

707
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: that part of the game. You think at some point

708
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: you would get better at it. It's like it's like

709
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: a writer. Well, you know, he's tons of talent, he's great.

710
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Cannot write a sentence, Uh, you just can't do it.

711
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: Can't get the subject and the predicate. The reckless connor

712
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Or was the only one to take the chiefs. And

713
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: at this point it's a bit like we haven't even

714
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: talked to him about this at all, but it's now

715
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: week after week it's coming up. But he puts them

716
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: in before. I mean, it's not like he sees your

717
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: picks against him. He's just he's just he's a renegade.

718
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: He's basically what Mark has been trying to do. But

719
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: he's been able to go about five hundred on these

720
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: type of picks, whereas Mark, you've probably been going. Well,

721
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I tried last week and I got I had to

722
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: think I had five heroes and I got three of

723
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: them right. But it was the rest of the games

724
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: where I went about one and nine. Yeah, alright, The

725
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins UH and their solid defense heads to the

726
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: meadow Lands to face the New York Jets in there

727
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: solid er defense nailed it journalism school. The New York

728
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Jets are three and one coming off thereby they face

729
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a two and three Redskins team. UH. This is the

730
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: Jets led by, according to Brandon Marshall, the best running

731
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: back in football and Chris Ivory uh, which I think

732
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: maybe is a bit of a stretch, but at times

733
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory has looked like one of the best running

734
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: backs in the football this season. The Jets also, of

735
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: course getting back Sheldon Richardson off his four game suspension,

736
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: so Eric Decker is also healthy, so the Jets are healthy.

737
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: At home, everything seems like it's going to be headed

738
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: towards another win. And that's why I'm terrified about this

739
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: game against a slightly frisky Redskins team. I didn't think

740
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: they're more than slightly frisky. They don't. They play pretty

741
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: close to every team they they play up against. I

742
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: think that Giants game was kind of a letdown on

743
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: national TV, but other than that, they've been very frisky.

744
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 1: All you I mean, you get other teams to play

745
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: their style, which is a credit to them. They they

746
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: slow the game down, ugly it up. They are the

747
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins of teams, ugly, low ceiling, and you know

748
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: gets Mark Sessler excited. No, well, no, no, listen, I'm

749
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: not old, ugly, low ceiling Cessler. That's well, I just

750
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: know he likes Cousins the Redskin. I like Kirk Cousins,

751
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: but I think I'm also as I said on Sunday night,

752
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: he absolutely killed that team with a couple of decisions

753
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: against the Falcons in a game they could That wasn't

754
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: his fault. That was a tight ends fult. Charlie Casserly

755
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: broke down the tape and you know he knows more

756
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: than I do. That was his conclusion. He also saw

757
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: the pressure coming and just got rid of the ball

758
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: a little early. They had a hunt. He also led

759
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: a uh touchdown drive to tie the game. That's what

760
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I wrote up that that he had a masterful drive

761
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: to put them into overtime, and he looked like he

762
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: had more command of that offense than any quarterback the

763
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Redskins have had since two thousand twelve with r G three.

764
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: But but it's the they were given so many chances

765
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: in that game, and they had a hundred and forty

766
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: yards with about seven minutes left in the game, and

767
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: the Falcons just kept handing it over and kept giving

768
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: them a good field position and they weren't getting first down.

769
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: The run game was a big part of it. The

770
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: run game, which should be great, has been up and

771
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: down and you're not really sure what you're gonna get

772
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: a week to week. Well, they feel like in eight

773
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and eight team for everything we're talking about, because when

774
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: they're good, you can really want to buy into them,

775
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: and then the next week that doesn't sustain. I think

776
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: this could be a very low scoring game for sure.

777
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this could be an ugly game

778
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: that West, you're making fun of my team when we

779
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: do the podcast on Sunday night, because whether they win

780
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: or lose it, it's just gonna be one of those games. No,

781
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: I totally think it's gonna be low scoring because that's that,

782
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: like Greg said, the Gredskins kind of take you down

783
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: into the mud and make you wrestle with them. We

784
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: have an interesting one of the more interesting go get

785
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: my Lunch props of the season. It's one of yours.

786
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: West Kirk Cousins throws for at least twenty touchdowns and

787
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: three thousand yards in both myself and Greg took you

788
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: up on that. I look at uh, you take a

789
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: look at what his projected numbers are right now. I

790
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: don't think he has the touchdown. You got the yard

791
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: at easy. He actually is on pace for over thirty yards,

792
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: but he's only at pace for sixteen touchdowns right now.

793
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Only is five touchdown. Yeah, you got a chance. I

794
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do it. What's working against me is

795
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: their style of play, which is to run the ball.

796
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: But as long as he stays healthy, the yards they're well,

797
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: he's fine with the yards not even gonna be remotely close.

798
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: And if he can play sixteen games, you'll have a

799
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: chance one or two day games through the air. Get

800
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: Jordan reading Deshan Jackson back in that line up. He's

801
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing touchdowns all over the place. Had eleven

802
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: touchdowns all of last year. I meant big twenty twenties,

803
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: very achieava. I think he can just got five through

804
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: five games. I didn't take him up on this, correct, Well,

805
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: twenty is pretty doable. He got a chance. Oh yeah,

806
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: all right, And as far as this old renegade or

807
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: picked the Redskins. The rest of us picked J T

808
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: s you always. I don't think that's crazy though. That's

809
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: not crazy. That's not crazy. But it's when it's every game,

810
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: when it's literally three straight games. Alright, another great, this

811
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: is oh excellent one PM game. Be it will be

812
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: even better if Ben Roethlisberger is back, but I'm not

813
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: sure that's going to happen. The Arizona Cardinals four one,

814
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: the apple of Chris Westling's eye, the team of around

815
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: the NFL UH travel to Hines Field to face the Steelers. Uh.

816
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Some bad news today. UH for the Steelers. Marquis Pounce,

817
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: eitherir center who had who broke his leg in the preseason,

818
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: underwent surgery went on I R Boomerang was expected to

819
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: be back, has to have another ankle surgery, so now

820
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: his entire season is in doubt. UH. And their backup

821
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: center has not played very well at all. So that's

822
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: a bummer. So they wasted the Boomerang, potentially potentially wasted

823
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: their boomerang. Big Ben practiced on Thursday, but in a

824
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: limited fashion. And as our friend andrews Ceciliano, who will

825
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: be on a little later UM said on today's show.

826
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: Whenever a QB is only limited on a Thursday, not

827
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: typically a good sign. So Mark, we might see some

828
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: more Michael Vick, which might not be a great thing

829
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: because other than one big throw in a couple of

830
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: passes in that last drive was a bit of a

831
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: nightmare on Monday night. I think we are going to

832
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: see him. It sounds like the problem with Big Bend

833
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: as he can't he said he can't move laterally the

834
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: problem throw that would seem necessary. I think he's while

835
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: while away. Yeah, I mean the Steelers they can't be

836
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: the same team. And you know, we talked about it

837
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Sunday night, the issues with you know, his lack of

838
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: connection with Antonio Brown and if you just look at

839
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: how different this team is when Big Ben isn't on

840
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: the field, like in terms of what they're capable of doing,

841
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: and completely levels the field Big Band and Shazir Shazir.

842
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: I know he's not Big Ben, but I thought he

843
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: was going to be the best player on their defense

844
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: and one of the only chances. I guess Stefonte, how

845
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: many games has he played? He only played two this year,

846
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: right before he hurt the shoulder. I think he got

847
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: hurt in Week three and so that that's a big problem.

848
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's not expected to be back. Martavis Bryant, though,

849
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: is coming off of his suspension. He could have last week,

850
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: but they didn't activate him. He will play in this game,

851
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: so that that could give him a little boost. Well,

852
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: he got hurt in practice last week. That was so

853
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's fully healthy. But he is fully

854
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: practicing and not on the week six injury part. I

855
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: think because they're so well coached and they're a veteran team, Um,

856
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: they are a team the Cardinals are less susceptible to

857
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: overlooking opponents and having down weeks. And that won't even

858
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: be a problem this week because Bruce Arians has some

859
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: revenge factor going on after the Steelers treated him so poorly,

860
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: blamed everything on him when he had a great offense,

861
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and that you'd hear the owner and the coach, Yeah,

862
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to run the ball a little bit more,

863
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: and Arian's offense would just be dynamic. And then basically

864
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: they tried to get him to retire. They well they did,

865
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: they announced his retirements. One of the craziest things that's happened.

866
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: Not only that, they leaked out these stories about you know,

867
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: he he has to run the ball more or else

868
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: he can't stay or else he's going to retire. I

869
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: remember exactly the reporter they leaked it out too. Then

870
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: they try to retire him. And the crazy thing is

871
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: two years later they realize, oh, yeah, we have Ben Roethlisberger.

872
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna run that bombs away offense, except you're doing

873
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: it with a slightly worse or a worse offensive coordinator

874
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: with Todd Haley. And they gave Arians a laundry list

875
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: of you know, mid tier backs at best, and then

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: here comes Haley and he's got Levy on Bell. The

877
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: Arians is one of the only coaches where I think

878
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: this would actually make a difference for the players that

879
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: they want to go out and and crush the Steelers

880
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: for areas I don't think players would really care in

881
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: most cases, but Arians, I think is the exception. I

882
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: agree everyone took the Cardinals to take care of business

883
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: against the Vic led Steelers. Moving on, the Miami Dolphins

884
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: is our last one PM game. The Dolphins are heading

885
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: to Nashville to face the Titans. Is the first game

886
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: for interim Dolphins coach Dan Campbell. Who had this interesting quote.

887
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the Dan Campbell all right,

888
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned that at this quote. When I start thinking,

889
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: I got to say, how I imagine he was saying,

890
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: what do I start thinking about Sunday a little too much?

891
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I start wanted to throw up a little bit. It's

892
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: basically like a w WF wrestler. He's the ultimate warrior,

893
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: except his move is throwing up vomiting. This finished move

894
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: is vomiting. That would that would be distracting though, if

895
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: you're a Titans player and you just see the coach

896
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: just barfing all over the place, like that's Donovan McNab's move.

897
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Barfing is always underrated. So, yeah, this is the first

898
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: game for Dan Campbell and a Dolphins team that really

899
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: potentially could just be going down in flames. Now we'll

900
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: see what happens there. One in three the Titans a

901
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: also one in three, but different vibe around that's he was, Yeah,

902
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: Ken wizzen Hunt really raised my iron and I won't

903
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: be picking the Titans in any game the rest of

904
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: the year, because if you don't want to win a

905
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: football game, then I'm not gonna pick you. And he

906
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to win last week. I'll have no fury

907
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: like a West scorn. He didn't want to win. He

908
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: just wanted not to lose. I I was thinking of

909
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: you as I watched this game, because it was wildly

910
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: infuriating to see him punt multiple times on fourth and

911
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: two at the forty, to try to punt with three

912
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: sixteen left down one, it was insane. I think I

913
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: think I read somewhere that only one team in the

914
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: NFL ever punted in the first half in the in

915
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: the opponent's forty yard line, and Wizzen Hunt did it

916
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: twice in one game. The QB whisper, Yeah, and he

917
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: wants to have done with that guy. Okay. I liked

918
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: how they let Mariota or maybe he just did himself.

919
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I like that Mariota started running last week because he

920
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: could be you know, one should be doing that way more.

921
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: He ran for more yards last week than he did

922
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks combined. He also almost out

923
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: rushed the rest of the Titans running backs on twenty

924
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: three less attempts. That whole three pack. Let's give seven

925
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: carries to Andrews, mccluster and Sanky is just depressed. What

926
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: the hell is going on with that team. Antonio Andrews

927
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: runs a four nine forty and they're using them as

928
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: they're running back. What are you? Harry Douglas is out

929
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: there is their number one receiver. Get some buyers, Tennessee

930
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: play the right ones. I would rather be called a

931
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: communist in nineteen fifties America than be a coach labeled

932
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback whisper doom coming your way. You know, Mark

933
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: Sessler is going to be, you know, skeptical of you

934
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: if you get that label. You hate the quarterback whispers.

935
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't like it when it's attached to Ken wizen Hunt.

936
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: He's gotta work, you know. One thing, Mariotta just watching

937
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: them has gotta you know. One thing he doesn't do

938
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: is ever complete a deep pass to Everything he does

939
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: is really impressive. He's so calm in the pocket. I

940
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: still love watching him every week. But they cannot get

941
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: anything going down the field. Mark, you and I both

942
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: took the Texans in this or the Titans in this game.

943
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: The rest of the crew took the fish bad move.

944
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Rest of crew moving on. The San Diego Chargers are

945
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the next victims to stroll into Lambeau Field. They will

946
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: face the Packers, who have not lost at lambeau Field

947
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: on the stat I dug up, not with the research notes,

948
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: but just on my own time. Uh, they have not

949
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: lost a game at lambeau Field since eighteen sixty one,

950
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: first year Civil War. That's crazy. That was Augustus Lombardies team. Right.

951
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: What's great is you will get a sincere tweet or

952
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: couple from people correcting you on that it's happened, and

953
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: it happened, will happen again. The Chargers. Uh yeah, the

954
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: most annoying if well, listen, if the Titans are the

955
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: Titans of the most annoying offense and football, the charges

956
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: for me or the second I can't watch anymore. This

957
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: terrible offensive line that Phil Rivers has to play within

958
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: his back end of his prime, all these three yard passes,

959
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: the god forsaken wide receiver screens. I don't think any

960
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: of this is gonna work. When you're gonna have to

961
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: score at least thirty five points to win this game,

962
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: I think the Packers are gonna trout some anybody disagree,

963
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: totally agree. This couldn't be a worse matchup for the

964
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Chargers with an offensive line that went into last week's game.

965
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: I think with three reserves starting and had to replace

966
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: three more guys during the game. That that's the thing

967
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: they've been unlucky for. In their defense, They've literally had

968
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: five different centers in five different left guard combat. Well,

969
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: now they play against the number one past defense in

970
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: the NFL according to Football Outsiders Metrics, in a team

971
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: with twenty sacks, second in the NFL and sacks, this

972
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: is a brutal matchup for the Georges. Even though Girley

973
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: ran for a hundred and fifty nine on Green Bay

974
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: last week, I still think that their run defense looked

975
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's how was that? That's true. I do

976
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: want to see how the Packers offense comes out in

977
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: this game. This is not the toughest matchup in the world.

978
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: They have not looked like the Packers offense for two

979
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: straight weeks. I think it's fair to wonder why they've

980
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: only scored seventeen points uh in back to back weeks.

981
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: They could not sustain drives against the Rams at all.

982
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: They had at one point they had five straight drives

983
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: without a score, then they get one touchdown, then it's

984
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: another four or five without a score. Really, what they're

985
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: getting is the occasional great big play from Rogers, and

986
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: that's it. They're not They're not really moving the ball

987
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: that well, especially throwing. I mean you take away Davante,

988
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: Adams and Nelson. Maybe maybe that's it. You need to

989
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: get Eddie Late he back on track. Yeah, if you are.

990
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're a fantasy owner and there's

991
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: an owner that has Eddie Lacy that's getting impatient, go

992
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: get him because he will get hot and have roughly

993
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it's almost like games. It's almost like he used to

994
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: work for Rotor Wild with that advice right there, thank you.

995
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: By the way, James Jones is on pace for yards

996
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: and sixteen touchdowns this year. You mean Justin Blackman if

997
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: he what did I say? Well, no, it's we We've

998
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: established that. It's essentially Justin Blackman went into Green Bay

999
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: and took James Jones's identity and James Jones is living

1000
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: in you know, you know what, I'd be happy that

1001
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: would mean that Justin's back on track physically and splitting.

1002
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: It's a good deal, forever deal for everyone. Jones doesn't

1003
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: have to do anything. Jones touchdowns and almost thirteen hundred yards.

1004
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: That's a comeback player of the Year, right, well, he's

1005
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: got to beat out half the Cardinals roster for that award.

1006
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: But before before we move on quickly, Uh, you might

1007
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: get your you don't like watching this offense, Dan hann

1008
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out there, I already don't like

1009
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: what is No you should I've heard some whispers. It's

1010
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: been whispers around the league, Mike McCoy, but might be

1011
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: one of those coaching names to watch if they don't

1012
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: end up with a winning season. It's his fault. Every

1013
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: center he plays gets hurt. It's a little surprising, but

1014
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: a lot of times there's different reasons for why coaches

1015
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: you know aren't popular. What are you trying to say, No, I,

1016
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. In this case, I'm just saying

1017
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: it's surprising to me, considering his results, that you want

1018
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: to kick off the l A regime with a shiny

1019
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: new coach. Sometimes you're privy to league wide scuttle. But

1020
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you had something. No, I didn't.

1021
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm most surprised too, But I think I think

1022
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: he's got to win. Maybe they don't like those boring

1023
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: attacks either. We all picked the Packers, with the exception

1024
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: of Connor he's kidding. Listen of Mark and joke. I

1025
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: can joke too. I like jokes. Alright, guys, it is

1026
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: that time of the show where we welcome in television royalty.

1027
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sugarcoat this at all.

1028
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: This guy, uh we just before we started said he

1029
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: gets recognized at sporting events. Well you ask you didn't

1030
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: volunteer the information. I'm going to Game five the nld

1031
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: S and your first question is how many times do

1032
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: you get recognized? That's fair and Andrew Siciliano, by the

1033
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: way of NFL Network, Hey guys, if I'm royalty, what

1034
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: does that like make real royalty here? Like like Marshal

1035
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Er or Michael They're just g DM crew, They're just

1036
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: ex jocks. You're the real Starry Andrew. Don't let anyone

1037
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: tell you different. Their home and their massive palaces. They

1038
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: won't even know this conversation happened to the royalty side.

1039
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: This is this is your moment to shine as a king.

1040
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: All right. So Andrew is with us here. He is

1041
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: going to Game five of the NLDS the Medicine Dodgers.

1042
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: We will talk about that before he leaves, but for now,

1043
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about some football. Let's keep going with the

1044
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: games and uh. We will start with uh with Andrew

1045
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: the car Atlanta Panthers heading to Seattle to face the Seahawks.

1046
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: The Panthers, of course four and no Seattle two and three.

1047
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: Uh in a spot where they cannot they cannot struggle

1048
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: at home in this spot here. So here we go

1049
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: a big matchup between two teams that could hell, they

1050
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: could see each other in January. But the Seahawks Andrews Sicilian,

1051
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't have to start winning now, Yeah they do? Um, yeah,

1052
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: you said the Carolina Panthers, of course four. No, I

1053
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: don't think that most people knew the like and I

1054
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: don't think the of course they're actually fits, not criticizing you,

1055
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: actually commenting the fact that no one knows the Panthers

1056
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: are undefeating. No, no, you know what I'm saying. I

1057
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: had ted ginn on last week and you know they

1058
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: had the buy and I said, does anyone around where

1059
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: you live know that you guys haven't lost a game yet?

1060
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: And and he kind of laughed at it. And I

1061
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: think they're enjoying it because they are quote unquote under

1062
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: the radar. But if you ask your average fan on

1063
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: the street name the undefeat the teams of the sixth remaining.

1064
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: I bet you most wouldn't get the Carolina Panthers. And

1065
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: this is a huge test for them because they're on

1066
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: the road, They're they're against the defense that inexplicably blew

1067
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: a seven teen point fourth quarter lead last week. You know,

1068
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: I'm actually more curious to see how Carolina does in

1069
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: this game than I am how Seattle does. But on

1070
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: the Seattle side of things, I mean, they've gotta somehow

1071
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: protect Russell. Imagine if Russell Wilson weren't mobile, he's already

1072
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: on pace to be right, he's on pace to be

1073
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: sacked a David Carr esque seventy times. Little know in fact,

1074
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: this is the first time all year that the Panthers

1075
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: are not playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well that's a

1076
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: that's a great point there. They played the Jaguars, the Texans,

1077
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: the Saints, and the Bucks. So the undefeated mark is

1078
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: probably just not respected. I think there's two things to

1079
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: play here with this game. If the Panthers win on

1080
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the road in Seattle, everyone's gonna buy in and say

1081
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: this is the real deal. And on the flip side.

1082
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: If the Seahawks lose, it will go from everyone being like, well,

1083
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: they're just they just gotta find their legs. They're the

1084
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: same way last year. But if they lose in their

1085
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: building to the Panthers and they fall to two and four,

1086
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some panic in the air and people

1087
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: are gonna think this might not be their year. Well,

1088
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: and there should be panic if they go to two

1089
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: and four, and I fully expect this game to come

1090
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: down to the last five minutes of the game. Is

1091
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: the fourth straight year these teams have played. Every time

1092
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: they play, it's close, and every time it's seemily in

1093
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Carolina too that that's true, but they play similar styles

1094
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: that they want to win with defense and running and

1095
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: not open it up. And even with Cam Newton playing

1096
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: so well and everyone expected his offensive line to be terrible,

1097
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: granted they have not played great teams, but they've played

1098
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: pretty well for the most part. I would throw Michael

1099
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: or out of that. He hasn't played well, but for

1100
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: the most parts he's been fine, and for the most

1101
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: they're protecting Cam Newton. Well, my point is they're not

1102
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: like a big brother. They're they're not you know, everybody

1103
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: likes to pick on Michael Horror and he's been fine.

1104
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: You vote up there a little bit just for the record,

1105
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't want to mess with a boat

1106
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: up west. He gets a certain like tone of his voice,

1107
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: and you could you could tell him like the Earth

1108
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: is round. He's not gonna believe you. He's got his

1109
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: his vantage point. And my point I was trying to

1110
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: get to these teams. It's not like the Panthers are

1111
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna run away and hide or the Seahawks. The way

1112
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: this offense is playing, it's a lackluster offense. It's gonna

1113
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: be a twelve to ten type of game. That's just

1114
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: who these teams are. I want to see on the ground,

1115
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: Like Thomas Rawls looked great against the Bengals, better than

1116
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch has and but the Panthers have given has

1117
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: never been healthy this year, and for the most part,

1118
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line for the seas I thought played pretty

1119
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: well in that game if it all fell apart late,

1120
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: especially passing the ball, but for the most part it

1121
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: was their best game of The Panthers have given up

1122
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: under a hundred yards the first three games the year

1123
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: before last last week before the by I mean they

1124
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: they've been good against the run to two bits of

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: news here. Also one bit of news, Derrek Coleman, the

1126
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks fullback, was arrested on Thursday. Um he started two

1127
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: games with me. He's been in the picture for them

1128
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: for a while hit and run and vehicular assault or

1129
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: the charger. So he was immediately suspended by the team.

1130
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: So he's out of the picture. Who knows what's going

1131
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: on with Derrick Coleman. He's a fullback. Obviously not gonna

1132
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: win or lose this game, but that's a notable loss

1133
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: as well for the team. Can I raise my hand

1134
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: one more time and say, how in the hell do

1135
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: they lose that game last week? Well, I mean, I'm

1136
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: being deserves a lot of it, and he didn't. He

1137
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: didn't get any blame me through a red zone interception.

1138
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: And then once the lou not lou Roles Thomas Ross

1139
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: maybe got that and the defense scored. They had three

1140
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: first downs in their next six drives. And he missed

1141
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: open receivers and some of that's on Darryl Bevil for

1142
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: going run run pass every time, but this never shows

1143
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: up in the box score. Wilson does miss some open

1144
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: guys where he just doesn't see them, like it's nothing

1145
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: that anyone ever picks on. But he'll have open guys

1146
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: and it gets blamed on the offensive line because then

1147
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: he starts running around and he gets sacked. But he

1148
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: could have delivered some open paths. How about Andy Dalton

1149
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: Peggy throws down field? How about Andy picking on Cam Chancellor. Yeah,

1150
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: this from Chris Wesley in the NFL Media Research notes,

1151
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, we know the running game. By the way,

1152
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this. The Carol Caroline Panthers is

1153
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: not taken off with the running backs. Cam is rushed

1154
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: for a hundred ninety five yards of forty three carries,

1155
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He's on pace for a hundred and seventy

1156
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: two rushes this season that would destroy an NFL record

1157
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: held out a quarterback that ran a hundred and forty

1158
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: one times for the Chicago Bears once upon the top

1159
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: of seventies exactly, Chris Rustling, Bobby Douglas. That is a

1160
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: lot of Carrecter, Cam Newton and a lot of wear

1161
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: and tear. Got is a relevant nugget that you saw.

1162
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: That's what I dug out of that research. Dan is

1163
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: a scorned individual who has Jonathan Stewart in his fantasy backfield. Well,

1164
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: I gotta say you can put that one on me.

1165
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: You West, who was my uh my draft consultant on

1166
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: draft Day, were four and one. We're doing okay, trub

1167
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: You were involved with the hiring process, scoped out the

1168
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: talent and hired ownership share Mark Sessler. Cessler had Kevin

1169
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: Costner's his draft day consultant. I am on this team

1170
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: and I actually, you know the best thing about Draft

1171
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: Day of the movie, by the way, not the movie itself,

1172
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: which was bad, but we got to see a screening

1173
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: of it for the NFL media. Somehow. They were like,

1174
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: come to our movie and they cornered Mark famously. As

1175
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: we know, Mark gave them some some nuggets that being

1176
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: on movie posters. All right, it's the greatest thing that's

1177
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: ever happened. What was it? It was like, what was

1178
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: the exact quote? Thank god the Browns one. No, I

1179
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: do not remember what the quote was, but I can

1180
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: tell you that I initially tweeted out West and I

1181
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: both Yes, we gave it a B plus. It was

1182
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: better than most people. Yeah, I think you said something.

1183
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: I guess the Casablanca of sports not. The point I

1184
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: was trying to get to is the thing that Mark

1185
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: was upset about when we left the theater was that

1186
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: Joe Banner had a cameo in the film, to the

1187
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: point where Mark was saying, seriously, you know, somebody should

1188
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: talk to him about pulling him out of the because

1189
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: he had been a bad message. Well, he had been fired.

1190
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: That's why it was not trying to ruin Joe Banners

1191
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: acting careers that we all we all pick up Seahawks.

1192
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: We'll pick the Seahawks. Can I have ten second story?

1193
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: I promise about Draft Day. So we're at the premiere, Okay, humble, Yeah,

1194
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: it's just a fact. Get recognized that Westwood. Actually they're no,

1195
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: not at all. It's all movie stars were at the premiere.

1196
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: So after the premiere, you know, Darlington's are Jeff Darlington, right,

1197
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: who who lives in Miami. I call him Jeff Dalfington's

1198
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: on the air because we often send him to Davy.

1199
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: So Darlington had something in the movie, but it was

1200
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: cut I think right. He was at the bar, the

1201
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: at the bar, in the party, and he actually had

1202
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: a line that was cut right where he said something

1203
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: to cost So we're at the premiere afterwards. At the

1204
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: party afterwards, I think we've had a drink and Costner's

1205
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: over there with a bunch of people around him, and

1206
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: Darlington and Alex Marvez was there too, our good friend

1207
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: from got cut. He got cut, they got cut, and

1208
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Darlington goes basically and I'm cleaning this up. The hell

1209
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: with this, I'm going in. So Marve is and I

1210
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: get right behind Darlington and imagine Marvez with his ponytail here,

1211
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: So I'm in front, I'm behind Darlington, Marvez behind me,

1212
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: and basically Darlington bust right into Costner's conversation. It's just dangerous.

1213
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: It's just and then basically it's just walls everyone else

1214
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: off and does the I'm Jeff Darlington, we met, I

1215
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: I my scene got cut and oh my god, and

1216
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Costner played ball and so we all stood there. Ended

1217
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: up having a good conversation with Kevin Costner about Field

1218
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: of Dreams and all this other stuff too. Because Jeff

1219
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: Darlington dogged reporter that he is to sit just I

1220
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: am going in. He's like Adrian Brody working with Terence

1221
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Mallick and thin red Line. I didn't get that one,

1222
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: but sure, okay, well, if we're gonna tell one more

1223
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Draft day story. By the way, just railroad me on

1224
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: trying to explain why that quote came out the way

1225
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: it did. I'm not idiot. I am sort of an

1226
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: idiot though, because I was heart well. No, I wrote

1227
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: them a full paragraph and I learned a lesson because

1228
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: when you get put on one of these movies past things,

1229
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: they used like two words of it, and I wrote

1230
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: it with like three glasses of wine and me in

1231
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina on a semi vacation. Terrible idea. Never review

1232
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: a movie South Carolina. My story is they were filming

1233
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: part of that at Radio City Music Hall at the

1234
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: Draft in two thousand twelve, I believe. And I had

1235
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: gotten there my first day and I was in the

1236
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: process of getting my security badge. And they have a

1237
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: little room at Radio City and Frank Lngella, the veteran

1238
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: actor who played the owner of the Browns of the film,

1239
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: was sitting there and you could tell they had been

1240
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: filming during the day and he's losing his patients a

1241
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: little bit, and uh, he needed to get some type

1242
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: of badge I think for the for the movie or

1243
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: some type of clearance. And eventually Langella, who looks very

1244
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: he's losing patients. Just walks out of Radio City Music

1245
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Hall and like I fought and see him just kind

1246
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: of walking down the street down sixth Avenue, and then

1247
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: sure enough there comes like four p a screaming into

1248
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: the room minutes later, like where's Frank? Where's Frank? And

1249
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Frank's baby. All right? One, what's the one

1250
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: more game with Andrew? Let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens

1251
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: and the San Francisco forty Niners. Okay, so listen, not

1252
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: a great game here. We got a one in four

1253
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: team against the one in four team that one of

1254
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: our feel like you're ptentionally holding the Browns and Broncos

1255
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: out from me. We next week. We'll get him in

1256
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: next week. So this is a rematch of the Super Bowl,

1257
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: So you can try to pump that up if you want, CBS,

1258
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: good luck with that. But the truth of matter, these

1259
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: are two bad teams. Uh maybe one is way worse

1260
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: than the other, Chris Westling, But at the end of

1261
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: the day, two teams that we've forked and don't believe

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Speaker 1: have any chance already of the season. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any debate they're both bad teams. I picked

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Speaker 1: the forty niners because they've played so much better at

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Speaker 1: home than they have on the road. They have been

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Speaker 1: just they've been the worst defense in the NFL when

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Speaker 1: they've played on the road, and they've been pretty they've

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Speaker 1: been a pretty good backbone at home. They they held

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to seventeen points in their last home game.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard not to watch this matchup and and

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Speaker 1: think of the super Bowl that was on our network,

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Speaker 1: UH this week, where Colin Kaepernick was a strangely time

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: time out away from scoring about thirty thirty eight points

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Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. He'd be a super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but with a great performance in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he was in the end zone. It's it's

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Speaker 1: crazy how much changes, because I mean, the Ravens are

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Speaker 1: a shell of that team that that team had an

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Speaker 1: up and down defense. That defense is totally gone. Uh.

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01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: The offense no longer has nearly the same threat. It

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01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: might as well be fifteen years ago, and it really

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01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: it was only three seasons ago and then and it's

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Speaker 1: all gone. You know what struck me for watching the

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Speaker 1: Ravens this week? I love me some Mazzy Newsom and

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: Ozzy is a unique individual in this sport in that

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: you can make a compelling argument that he deserves to

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Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame, not only as a

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Speaker 1: player he's already there, but as an exact he did

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Speaker 1: as well. He's that good and he has had great,

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: a great track record, other than his inability to draft

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01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: wide receivers, which is odd considering the position he played.

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Speaker 1: Um Travis Taylor, Mark Taylor, Mark Clayton. I mean Tory

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01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: Smith worked, but I mean not exactly. Let's say they

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01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: they were all underwhelmed considering what we thought they would

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: be when they were drinking. Is by far his best.

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: By and Brashad Perriman. For whatever reason, it's an injury.

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Azz He can't predict those. It hasn't worked yet this year.

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: Maybe it will for the kid eventually. But with the

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Speaker 1: injuries to the secondary, and Azzi promised he would never

1300
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: let what happened last year with his secondary happened this year.

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Speaker 1: The secondary is not good. They're beset by injuries again.

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01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, they had to get a guy like Jason

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: Babbitt off the street because Darrell Suggs gets hurt. Then

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01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: Babbitt had two stupid penalties this past week and he

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: ends up on the street um their thinnest running back.

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: We all know that Justin Forceet was was a guy

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: who were happy for him that late in his career

1308
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: came on and he probably isn't the long term answer.

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: Tallya Pharo's now hurt as well. Sure, the offensive line,

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: it's nice, but then what else do you have there?

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback and they they don't have play

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01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: hasn't right? They run the ball, okay, but they do

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: not protect Fla. Flacco is not the problem. I think

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01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: he's playing just fine. It's really everything. They have no

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: playmakers on the team, They have none more sets coming

1316
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: off his best game of the year, but he's he

1317
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: injured his ankle and I think in late in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter over time, so he might not even play

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Speaker 1: this when not lost. If Steve Allen or Steve Smith

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Speaker 1: and Crocket Gilmore were healthy, probably considering the state of

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Speaker 1: the Brown secondary, sure absolutely, and and look, maybe Max

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: Williams will be the guy in Crocket Guilmore can make

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: some plays. But you look at that team and you say,

1324
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Speaker 1: all right, without Steve Smith, what are you gonna do?

1325
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Speaker 1: You're gonna go You're gonna go four and twelve. Maybe

1326
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's it's and again I'm not putting it

1327
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Speaker 1: all feet but this was a team that intelligent people

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01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: said was a super Bowl team coming into the season,

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01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: no reason to think they weren't. They were absolutly a

1330
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: super Bowl team last year despite a ton of injuries.

1331
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Then they are a Josh Scobie missed kick or a

1332
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: Todd Hailey bad play call away from being over five. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still I struggled to wrap my head

1334
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: around them not going on a run. And at this

1335
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: point they're so far in the hole it will probably

1336
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: have them finished eight and eight. A complete meltdown with

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: what they have a quarterback coach and GM and some

1338
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: players in the Rocks stunned, we'll go have five and

1339
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: eleven or something. Is not a complete meltdown when you

1340
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: started one and four, and what and what has been

1341
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: consistently bad about them from game to game is not

1342
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna suddenly get fixed in a flukey way. They legitimately

1343
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: just can't match up two teams that Connor connor or

1344
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: and myself we both picked the Ravens. The rest of

1345
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: the crew picked the Niners. So uh, that tells you

1346
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot about where the Ravens. No one wants Jim

1347
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: tom sewel Ha to go crazy. I feel like if

1348
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: he loses one or two more games, he's going to

1349
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: go crazy, losing sweating like an absolute mad man. Someone

1350
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: like trapped in a runaway train. Tell him to stop.

1351
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: We're in a velvet sweatsuit everywherezz um or valor whatever

1352
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: that thing is. I like the Ravens here as well.

1353
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: Um and I'll just tell you from from friends back there.

1354
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: I grew up an hour south of there. Those people

1355
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 1: are stunned. And if they're stunted, I assume the team

1356
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: is stunned that they lost to the Browns. And this

1357
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: isn't me pumping up the Browns. They had beaten him

1358
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: thirteen out of fourteen. They still cannot fathom north stomach

1359
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: that that's where they fall into. Well, that was that

1360
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: was the game that market. That's the game that told

1361
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: you everything you need to know about them, because they

1362
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: just assumed despite that and they're gonna win. Get back

1363
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: on track. And you mentioned the five and eleven, and

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be a total disaster coming off one and

1365
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: three to start. But this is an organization. They've had

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Speaker 1: one losing season since two thousands. I'm saying it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a surprise, would be a disaster. Yeah. The around

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Speaker 1: the NFL television show NFL Network, which Greg Rosenthal stole

1369
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: the show on today. Greg was on this show today. Yeah,

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: the the QB called names by Mike Silver, I should

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Speaker 1: have gone back. What name did he call you? That

1372
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: Raider hater? I mean, he just makes any point he

1373
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: can against the Raiders, acts like he's the most unbiased

1374
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 1: journalist apologist. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, six pm Eastern Thursday,

1375
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: a three hour show two to five home run and

1376
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: failed that. Andrew also hosts The Red Zone Show on

1377
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: direct TV. On Sunday's Busy Man, uh popular man, A

1378
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: famous man getting recognized on every street quinally Dodgers MAT's

1379
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom Zacher. And when people live here with us,

1380
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: they will either know that you are a genius, right

1381
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: or if you're wrong, because they'll hear it in the

1382
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: game will be already be over. It's amazing that the

1383
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: Dodgers one forty two to move on to the NLC. Okay,

1384
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: here you go, and football equivalent to the bat flip.

1385
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: Before you go that theory is a football equivalent to

1386
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: the bat flip, I mean, it isn't exactly t o.

1387
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Standing on the star m um. Ray Ratto had a

1388
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: great one today. He said the baseball unwritten rule is

1389
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: don't do anything to anger me, and clearly Jose Batista

1390
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: did that. But I think, and I tweeted this this morning,

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Speaker 1: son of Judy Batista, by the way, stop it. We

1392
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: need to we need to stop calling what Jose Batista

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Speaker 1: did a bat flip. And I'm not I couldn't care

1394
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: less in the sportsmanship here. He didn't flip the bat.

1395
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: He threw it. He threw it like a javelin. Okay,

1396
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: And and that is why that the Rangers are so

1397
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: ticked off. He didn't flip the bat. I mean he

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: threw that thing like a jet. He was trying to

1399
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,440
Speaker 1: take out next time. If you don't want him with you,

1400
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: you think criticizing, I'm not saying that semantic. The semantics

1401
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: are wrong here. It was not a bat flip. Stop

1402
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: calling it a bat flip. And also, if you want

1403
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: to be mad, be mad that you made three consecutive

1404
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: errors before the end, miss judge to pop up. They

1405
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: choked defensively, gag. I mean rankings, those poor rankings. The

1406
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: Rangers away up, Hig, I'll tell you that. I mean,

1407
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: these are literal league plays, catch the ball when it's

1408
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: thrown to you at a base and they couldn't execute them.

1409
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: I could not agree with you more. And I know

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: nothing about the sport. Andrew, you've said it all. That

1411
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: is a brick tamblin answer right there, Andrew, you've said

1412
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: it all. Thank you for joining us, and enjoy yourself

1413
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: at the game, and be careful in the parking lot.

1414
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: For God's sake, it's raunchy out there. Good night, Thank

1415
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: you bout it. Moving on Sunday night football. Everybody likes

1416
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. The New England Patriots, Oh they're so good.

1417
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: Everybody loves the Oh they've been cleared of any wrongdoing,

1418
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: and they have a hot, sexy, sexy successful quarterback and

1419
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: there might be the best offense ever. And now they

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01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: get to face who else but the Indianapolis Colts, the

1421
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: very team who snitched. Snitches get stitches, and all those

1422
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: stitches might get applied Sunday night because the big showdown revenge.

1423
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: It's the flake Gate. Snitches get sixty points dropped on

1424
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: him sixty Burger six. You think Rodney Harrison, one of you,

1425
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: one of your favorite characters in NFL history, said this

1426
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: week this is a good quote. I know a little something.

1427
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: You attack the quarterback, you accused them of doing some

1428
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: cheating and things like that. They're going to try and

1429
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: put up fifty points and embarrass you. But they're trying

1430
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: to do that every week. And he's not talking about

1431
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: just the Colts, but the cults are coming. They're gonna

1432
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: get what's coming to him for subjecting the entire country

1433
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: to the most ridiculous controversy we've ever seen. Dan got

1434
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: me thinking, everyone does love these Patriots, as you said,

1435
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, great looking quarter everything. Maybe we could have

1436
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: more than one team of a t L. It seems

1437
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: of a t L. Let's get the patriotsato sack out.

1438
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: What about a lovable this throne of sleeves, get this

1439
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: thrown of sleeves out of my life. It's a lovable upstarts.

1440
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm on board. West is not crazy with the Patriots,

1441
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: and straight up, by the way, he is a non

1442
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: He's a football historian who appreciate that team. It's not crazy.

1443
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: Sixty Burger forty five to seven a f C title game.

1444
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: Patriots only up seventeen to seven and half they played

1445
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: the first half the way they did the second they

1446
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: easily get to six. Forty five is not even their average.

1447
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: They average like forty seven against the Colts the last

1448
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: four or five times they played. I will point to

1449
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 1: history two thousand seven, spy Gate. It was the Jets,

1450
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: of course that turned in the Patriots. And I remember

1451
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, P and my pants. It was

1452
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: on the scale. My pants was soaked with all this P.

1453
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: I need to change them, how to change my under

1454
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: pants and my pants? So it was so much P.

1455
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: Because it was a bad Jet team. I think they

1456
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: went four and twelve that year. I think Pennington got hurt.

1457
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: Jets for the least of your problems. And and what

1458
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: happened was at at Foxboro. Everyone thought it would be

1459
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: a sixty burger whatever, it would be twenty to ten.

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: The Patriots won, and Brady, who threw fifty touchdowns that year,

1461
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: was I think the only game you didn't have a

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. All I'm saying is just because they really

1463
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: want to kill the cults, it doesn't mean we necessarily

1464
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: well that was the last effective version of the droid

1465
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: that is Brady. They've updated the model. He's not much

1466
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: more dangerous. That's an actually a good question. Do you

1467
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: think Tom Brady now is better than Tom Brady two

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01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: thousand seven GA. No, I don't think it's that close.

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Speaker 1: So I also don't think it's gonna help to lose

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Nates Solder for the season. They're gonna try to play

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Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon at left tackle. That's a guy Solder they

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01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: just paid huge money to and he wasn't and he

1473
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: wasn't playing well, wasn't playing great, and either way going

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01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: to kill him this week against that. I think they

1475
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: lead the league in line changes and adjustments and it

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: hasn't affected them one bit. I believe it was Sam

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: Matson at PFF that sweeted out that Patriots Brady gets

1478
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: the ball out on average two point one seconds, which

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: plays to having a taking advantage of if your line

1480
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: isn't that great, be able to get the ball out.

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: So they'll be fine. Dan, I don't think the Patriots

1482
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: are gonna drop sixty points on them just because they're mad.

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01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: It's because they always beat the living tar out of

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 1: the courts that it's just the most one sided matchup

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Here comes the chair of floating in.

1486
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: There's a harp? Why are there's thunderclouds? I don't know.

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01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm changing my prediction that I am now predict the

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: final score eighty four to three Patriots when Colts. Basically,

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: that's your content if you're a cult stand out there

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: and you want to hope Andrew luck through with quote

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01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: no restrictions in the portion of practice open to the media.

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: Is that good Thursday? According to the Indianapolis Star, well,

1493
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose their the tenth best quarterback in the league.

1494
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: Manna be throwing some with some restrictions on Sunday night.

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so it will be, if nothing else, will

1496
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: be fascinating theater to see how that game plays out.

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: Which takes us to Monday night Football, and I think

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I think we all took the pets there. We did

1499
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: Monday if up on the New York Giants playing their

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 1: seven straight primetime game. Uh, they had to Philadelphia to

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: face the Eagles. UM, I don't know. This is a

1502
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: tough game because the division is so hard to figure out.

1503
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's really good, no one's truly terrible. So every team.

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: Anybody can win any of these games. I the Giants

1505
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: might not have Odell Beckham, which could be a difference maker.

1506
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: But does anybody have a real strong handle on how

1507
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,879
Speaker 1: this game is gonna play out? No, That's why I'm,

1508
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, peaking at the picks. I'm surprised it so

1509
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: one side. I got a hero pick out of this.

1510
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: If we still did hero picks, I took the Giants.

1511
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: But I'm the only one in the group. Well, I

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: think that's how important Odell Beckham is to the Giants.

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: I think without him they don't have a chance. I

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: mean the Eagles, Yes, I do would agree with that,

1515
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: to a chance. I don't know they have a chance.

1516
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: The Eagles are the only team in in NFL history

1517
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: that offense could look fairly lousy when they score thirty

1518
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: nine points, or Sam Bradford at least could have a

1519
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: bad game when they scored thirty nine points. That didn't

1520
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: change change my mind on the Eagles often at all.

1521
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: Would have killed DeMarco Murray to make a defender miss

1522
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: r Ever, well, they need to just give him one

1523
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: fourth the touches they give to Ryan Matthews. Think we've

1524
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: been saying all summer and fall. This is what really

1525
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: disturbs me about Chip Kelly, a man who who we've

1526
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: called brilliant and innovative and thinks outside the box addresses

1527
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: problems not by doing what football coaches have always done.

1528
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: And here he is with this real corporate mindset. I've

1529
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: invested so much money into DeMarco Murray that he can't

1530
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: be allowed to fail. I'm gonna keep playing him even

1531
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: though Darren Spoils and Ryan Matthews are better than him.

1532
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: Don't you think it's a little early to pull the

1533
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: plug on Murray like that? Well, we don't know until

1534
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: about that. I think he's running like he did in

1535
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: December when he wasn't making anyone With running backs. You

1536
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: can tell how they're running pretty easily, and he looks

1537
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: like snowsuit Ray Rice right now, he just Ryan Matthews.

1538
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: You can It's easy to tell, even if you were

1539
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: ten feet away from the TV which running back it is.

1540
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: There was. I think you're exactly right. There was one

1541
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: play in that game last week where I could not

1542
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: believe Murray did not make the defender miss an open space.

1543
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: It was such an easy play to make, and he

1544
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: can't move laterally his twenty four yard game, which was

1545
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: his I think it must have been his longest run

1546
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: of the season, was actually a play where I thought, wow,

1547
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: if you have Ryan Matthews with that hole, he's going

1548
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 1: sixty yards because you had a pretty slow linebacker catching

1549
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray on that play. It's the defense that's the

1550
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: reason they're two and three. The defense is in above

1551
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: average defense right well well above well above average. They

1552
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: they might have the best safety tandem in the league

1553
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: with Walter Thurman and Malcolm Jenkins right now. And they

1554
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: have one of the best defensive line tandems in the

1555
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: league with Fletcher Cox and Benny Logan. I mean, Benny

1556
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: Logan shows up every single week. Benny Logan shows up

1557
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: in Cox, who was great last year. I mean you

1558
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 1: had him at one point in the mix of defense

1559
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: top ten defensive players. He's backing it up with another

1560
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: big Jordan Hicks. Their third round rookie has been a

1561
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: mainstay lately in our Top ten Rookie of the Year watch.

1562
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: And that's why you can't count out the Eagles as

1563
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: much as I would love to, because I'd like to

1564
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: see Chip Kelly get has come up and for all

1565
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: Shenanigans over the last couple of years. But at the

1566
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: same time, they if they're gonna have a you know,

1567
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: top fifteen level defense, uh, and then you just count

1568
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: is that offense just gonna get going a little bit

1569
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: that's enough to win the division. This is not a

1570
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: great division. They were won in three two years ago,

1571
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: but that was an offense to put up I think

1572
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: eighty plays of twenty plus yards, which easily led the league.

1573
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: They were like twenty second in that category. And if

1574
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: you watch Bradford, he's basically just throwing to running backs

1575
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: and tight ends outside of Jordan Matthew and Matthews this season,

1576
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: he's not throwing the ball downfield. They're not creating. That's

1577
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: they're not the same offense they wore two seasons go

1578
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: at all. The only I mean last week he didn't

1579
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: really have one really impressive throw and he had three

1580
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,480
Speaker 1: or four pretty bad ones. He had a terrible interception.

1581
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: Yet they still scored thirty nine points. They've they've moved

1582
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: the ball. At the end of the Washington game. This

1583
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: is a team it's so hard to know what to think.

1584
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: It just hit me though. West called Malcolm Jenkins, who

1585
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: has been fantastic and Walter Thurman the best safety tandem

1586
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: in the league. Did you say yeah, and the same

1587
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: league as Earl Thomas and Cam Chancellor. I mean no,

1588
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean how they're playing this year. Earl Thomas hasn't

1589
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: played like Earl Thomas and Camp Chancellor got worked by

1590
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Well, it's a good thing because Byron Maxwell

1591
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: as a disaster. Well, look at what Chip Kelly's done

1592
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell. He splurges on DeMarco Murray even though he

1593
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: already had Ryan Matthew splurges on him to steal away

1594
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. He gave Riley Cooper five years and

1595
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty five million. Does Chip Kelly know what he's doing

1596
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: in personnel? What's kind of It's kind of like, uh, college,

1597
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: you just want someone then you go get him. So

1598
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: it's like here, Well, I don't know if he's thinking

1599
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: about the value of it all. How he rose money

1600
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: on some shed on the far side of the practice

1601
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: field they never use, laughing his ass off. He loves it.

1602
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: John Riggens used to have a five o'clock club in

1603
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: the shed at the Redskins practice facility where they would

1604
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: go after practice and drink beer. And then they would

1605
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: never let thisman join. All right, that's it for another

1606
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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We'll be back

1607
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: on Sunday night with their big Week six recaps, and

1608
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: make sure you check that out. This is Dan Hanson

1609
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: signing for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, and

1610
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: Sid behind the Glass until Sunday night. M