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Speaker 3: Well, I've probably said this twenty thousand times at this point,

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Speaker 3: but it looks like there's a TikTok deal on the table.

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Speaker 3: But actually, this time appears as though there actually is

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Speaker 3: a TikTok deal on the table. Donald Trump says he's

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Speaker 3: trying to finalize the deal within a call with President

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Speaker 3: segrimping on Friday. But in the meantime, let's take a

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Speaker 3: listen to why Trump feels confident this one is actually

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Speaker 3: going to stick. Well, we have a deal on TikTok.

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Speaker 4: I've reached a deal with China.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to speak to Presidency on Friday to confirm

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Speaker 5: everything up.

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Speaker 3: We made a very good, great.

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Speaker 4: Deal, and I hope good for both countries, but a

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Speaker 4: very different deal than they.

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Speaker 3: Made in the past.

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Speaker 6: We'll be announcing that we have a group of very

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Speaker 6: big companies that want to buy it.

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Speaker 5: And you know, the kids wanted it so badly.

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Speaker 7: I had parents calling me up.

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Speaker 8: They don't want it for themselves, they want it for

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Speaker 8: their kids.

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Speaker 9: They say, if I don't get it done, they're in

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Speaker 9: big trouble with their kids.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's great. Like I hate to see

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Speaker 3: value like that.

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Speaker 7: Thrown out the window.

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Speaker 4: Auto Executive.

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Speaker 3: You know you're talking about tens of billions of ballies.

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Speaker 3: So Trump, we can put this next element up on

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Speaker 3: the screen. Had to once again extend the deadline, which

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Speaker 3: came from that bill we covered it at the time

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Speaker 3: last year went through Congress, signed by Joe Biden, was

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Speaker 3: upheld by the Supreme Court. Trump had to keep extending

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Speaker 3: this this deadline from the bill to uh basically orchestrate

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Speaker 3: a spinoff. This was the fourth time that Trump extended

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Speaker 3: the deadline. It is now extended to mid December. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: he hopes to have a deal in place before that

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Speaker 3: and hopes to just get agreement from China and from

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Speaker 3: his side on Friday in a call with Hu Jimpang.

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Speaker 3: But Ryan, this deal is quite interesting. We can put

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Speaker 3: the financial time story up on the screen. This is

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Speaker 3: the next element the headline here. Beijing says TikTok's US

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Speaker 3: app will use Chinese algorithm, which completely completely undermines in

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Speaker 3: a very hilarious way, the intent of Congress's spinoff law.

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Speaker 3: Like the entire point of that bill was to get

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Speaker 3: the algorithm out of the hands of Beijing. So the

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Speaker 3: head of China's cybersecurity regulations said on Monday that US

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Speaker 3: and Chinese officials agreed to this framework that included quote,

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Speaker 3: licensing the algorithm and other intellectual proper. Right now, licensing

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Speaker 3: the algorithm could mean different things legally than operating the algorithm.

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Speaker 3: I don't actually know how that'll shake out. Sounds like

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Speaker 3: nobody really knows how that would shake out. But this

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Speaker 3: deputy head of the cybersecurities in China said the deal

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Speaker 3: would entrust the operation of TikTok's US user data and

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Speaker 3: content security. Now, the contours of this deal are also

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Speaker 3: quite interesting. Of course, because guess who's involved. Nobody will

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Speaker 3: be surprised to hear Larry Ellison. So byte Dance would

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Speaker 3: spend I'm reading from the New York Times here quote

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Speaker 3: spin out the apps American operations into a new company.

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Speaker 3: According to people familiar with the discussions, some of TikTok's

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Speaker 3: largest investors would maintain their stake in the American app.

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Speaker 3: Wonder that might be Jeff yas a Trump downer, Jeff yes, Well.

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Speaker 3: Byte Dance would also bring in new US investors to

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Speaker 3: reduce Chinese ownership to less than twenty percent, the people said. Oracle,

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Speaker 3: which already provides computing resources for TikTok, is among the

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Speaker 3: investors that you take a steak in the new business.

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Speaker 3: According to people familiar with the talks, Larry Ellison, Oracle's

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Speaker 3: his son David to buy the entertainment giant Warner Brothers Discovery, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, David Elison also just bought merged Sky

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Speaker 3: Dance and Paramount. So that's the CBS Free Press deal that.

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Speaker 7: You're in the free press in right.

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Speaker 3: That's what you've seen covered. Uh. The list of other

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Speaker 3: potential Inventor investors has been in flux, according to the Times.

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Speaker 3: Other entities that have discussed investing in recent weeks include

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Speaker 3: the private equity firm silver Lake, Well General Atlantic, and

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Speaker 3: guess who else Susquehanna, two firms that are already investors

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Speaker 3: four of people said I think I heard Andres and

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Speaker 3: Horowitz as well.

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Speaker 10: Horwitz was reported yes, yes, according to CNN the Market

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Speaker 10: and Treason big Trump supporter, you know, one of the

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Speaker 10: big muckety MUCKs of Silicon Valley. Yes, very also very

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Speaker 10: very supportive of Israel too. As we were mentioning at

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Speaker 10: the top of the show, Larry Ellison himself has donated

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Speaker 10: tens of millions of dollars to Israeli nonprofits, the most

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Speaker 10: the bulk of that money going to friends of the

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Speaker 10: IDF to build like training centers and other otherwise support

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Speaker 10: the IDF. So, you know, silver Lake is interesting because

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Speaker 10: they've been big investors in Airbnb, but they did way

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Speaker 10: mo so and you know, it's a global private equity fund.

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Speaker 10: And if the Oracle already in a deal had basically

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Speaker 10: was doing the cloud for TikTok. Now they'll do the

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Speaker 10: cloud plus apparently have some ownership stake. This could be

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Speaker 10: the kind of the worst of all worlds in the

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Speaker 10: sense that China maintains control over the algorithm, which is

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Speaker 10: the thing that the US has been concerned about. Like

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Speaker 10: this thing that can shape the views of the American

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Speaker 10: public is controlled by another country, reasonably our adversary. Yes,

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Speaker 10: so they're going to keep doing that. They'll license it

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Speaker 10: then to people who are the most adamantly pro Israel

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Speaker 10: in the United States. And so you know, just as

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Speaker 10: you'll have strident supporters of Israel controlling not just CBS

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Speaker 10: News and Warner Brothers and all these.

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Speaker 7: But then also TikTok.

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Speaker 10: But will they actually control it or does do they

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Speaker 10: just get to license the algorithm? Now, if they control it,

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Speaker 10: they can They've got some ability. You've got to think

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Speaker 10: to target particular accounts and also to meet with the

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Speaker 10: people who are doing the algorithm. Like, look, tweak this

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Speaker 10: and this guy over here, I'm sick I'm sick of

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Speaker 10: seeing Ian Carroll in life in my four youth page

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Speaker 10: nuke this man, or you know whatever, whoever's bothering Larry Allison.

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Speaker 7: Uh So, what what is the US?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 10: I see why it's good for China, I see why

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Speaker 10: it's good for Israel. I don't see how this bill

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Speaker 10: that was passed by Democrats, signed by.

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Speaker 7: Biden is going to be good for the United.

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Speaker 3: States, supported by a whole lot of Republicans too.

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Speaker 7: Should we go? Should we roll into that now? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me just say, I mean, there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of norms and precedents that have been shattered

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Speaker 3: by Donald Trump, and this second administration has been full

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Speaker 3: of challenges to the legal order. But Ran, I feel

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Speaker 3: like this TikTok delays, So this is the fourth TikTok

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Speaker 3: delay is one of the more disturbing. Actually to me,

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Speaker 3: is like maybe the most disturbing, because you know, we

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Speaker 3: disagree on a lot of the other ones, but on

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Speaker 3: this one, it is a just flagrant disobedience to Congress.

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Speaker 3: And what deserves me so much about is that basically

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Speaker 3: nobody is worried because everybody wants to ban TikTok and

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Speaker 3: including but like I've been support of banning TikTok, but

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Speaker 3: just completely ignoring a law passed by Congress, not even

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Speaker 3: bothering really to make a legal justification. And then nobody,

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Speaker 3: like Dems have challenged everything Trump does in court. Every

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Speaker 3: breath he takes gets a challenge from Mark Elias and

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Speaker 3: related law firms. Nobody is challenging this one because everybody

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Speaker 3: wants to ban TikTok, and they don't care that Trump

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Speaker 3: is figuring out a way to sell it off because

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Speaker 3: they assumed that. And maybe it'll get a challenge now

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Speaker 3: that the algorithm is apparently going to stay with China.

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Speaker 3: If that's the case, maybe it finally will. But everyone

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Speaker 3: assumed that Trump was actually working to orchestrate the deal,

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Speaker 3: so nobody, nobody challenged the fact that he was just

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Speaker 3: completely ignoring the law and giving these corporations a pass

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Speaker 3: in the most corrupt way possible, which is to orchestrate

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Speaker 3: a spinoff that would benefit people who support him, like

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Speaker 3: Republican donors. Jeff yass it is mafioso behavior and it's

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Speaker 3: very gross.

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Speaker 10: And we're about to play some quiet part out loud

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Speaker 10: clips that talk about how the TikTok band went from.

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Speaker 7: Bubbling to getting over the top.

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Speaker 10: And they very specifically say it was because after October

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Speaker 10: seventh and and Israel. So the reason I think that

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Speaker 10: this might actually go through is that the national security

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Speaker 10: states hostility to TikTok because it is connected with China

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Speaker 10: is not enough in our political system to get you

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Speaker 7: They just did. They didn't have the muscle to do it.

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Speaker 10: They needed Israel as the issue to come in and

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Speaker 10: push it over the top.

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Speaker 7: So now, because.

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Speaker 10: You know, Congress, if it was really about national security,

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Speaker 10: were like, wait a minute, China still owns the algorithm.

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Speaker 7: This doesn't count.

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Speaker 10: This wasn't the point, right, But because it's being handed

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Speaker 10: off to pro Israel investors, I think Congress might be like,

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Speaker 10: all right, you know what.

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Speaker 7: Good enough.

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Speaker 10: So maybe it still sucks that China is going to

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Speaker 10: be able to like shape attitudes for most Americans, but at.

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Speaker 3: Least China is often pro Israel.

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Speaker 7: Well we'll see you.

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Speaker 3: BB's been pro China in ways that neverrked the right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So if you think I'm crazy, here's here are a

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Speaker 10: bunch of people with power and involved in this legislation

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Speaker 10: telling you exactly how they got this over the top.

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Speaker 9: Typically the Israelis are good at pr what's happened here?

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Speaker 11: How have they? How have they?

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Speaker 9: And we been so ineffective communicating the reality is there?

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Speaker 12: The way this has played out on social media has

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Speaker 12: dominated the narrative. And you have a social media ecosystem

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Speaker 12: environment in which context, history, facts get lost and the emotion,

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Speaker 12: the impact of images dominates. And we can't discount that,

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Speaker 12: but I think it also has a very, very very

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Speaker 12: challenging effect on.

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Speaker 11: The narrative.

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Speaker 9: A small parenthetical point, which is some wonder why there

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Speaker 9: was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially

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Speaker 9: TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look

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Speaker 9: at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions

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Speaker 9: of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it's overwhelmingly

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Speaker 9: so among TikTok.

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Speaker 7: Broadcast.

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Speaker 9: So I note, that's a real interest, and the president

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Speaker 9: will get the chance to make action in that regard.

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Speaker 13: We were able to sort of learn from that experience,

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Speaker 13: We refine the approach.

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Speaker 7: We worked with him, We worked with the.

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Speaker 13: Executive branch, so we had a bipartisan consensus. We had

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Speaker 13: the executive branch, but the bill was still dead until

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Speaker 3: different questions that have been raised, but Patel just teed

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Speaker 8: Right after she gives this testimony in front of an agent,

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Speaker 14: The Bureau of prisons.

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Speaker 8: The Bureau of Decisions made it in prisons. You want

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Speaker 11: Do you think they're stupid?

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Speaker 14: I think the American people believe the truth that I'm

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Speaker 15: What I am doing is protecting this country, providing historic

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Speaker 15: likes of Europe. And we have tubtlessly proven you to

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Speaker 14: Disgrace to this and an utter callard.

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Speaker 8: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 6: I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your

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Speaker 14: You are political buffoon at best.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can take take it to the bank that

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Speaker 15: California historic reforms, point of order.

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Speaker 6: But all you care about is a child sex predator

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Speaker 5: Transparent FBI director in history thirty three thousand pages of

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Speaker 5: information to you, I challenge you to say anything credibly

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Speaker 8: Now quiet, Who if anyone did Epstein traffic the young

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Speaker 11: Personally direct that investigation, so that you would sign such.

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Speaker 14: You are did I personally direct what investigation.

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Speaker 11: Of the Epstein records? For any reference to President Trump?

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Speaker 14: Again, you are citing reporting that I think is baseless.

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Speaker 14: Many individuals At the Department of Justice and the FBI.

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Speaker 3: So for all of that Ryan. I think it was

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Speaker 10: Traffic we had after that Glain so Ghlaine Maxwell is

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Speaker 7: What they call him, Randy Andy.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I don't know what that means and where it goes,

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Speaker 10: but that's that is an interesting political development.

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Speaker 3: And in a way that totally what's the right word

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Speaker 3: confuses the boundaries. Meaning Cash Pattel came into the FBI

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Speaker 3: as a bitter opponent of the FBI that was close

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Speaker 3: with Adam Shiff and the FBI that was representative of

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Speaker 3: the political elite. He is now on the side actually

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Speaker 3: of the political elite and arguably of the FBI that

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Speaker 3: was close with Adam Schiff that also was being dodgy

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Speaker 3: about Epstein files. And so that's also strange in and

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Speaker 3: of itself, where you have the role reversal of Adam

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Speaker 3: Shift suddenly being the person who's skeptical of the elite

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Speaker 3: story and of the establishment story, and Cash Pattel being

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Speaker 3: the person who's defensive of the establishment story. Of very

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Speaker 3: strange inversion and turn of events. Let's move on to

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Speaker 3: news about Luigi Mangioni, whose terrorism charges were dropped yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We can go ahead and put e one up on

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Speaker 3: the screen. Luigi Mangioni, according to the New York Post,

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Speaker 3: you can see pictures of him at a court appearance

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Speaker 3: Tuesday morning of course in the killing of CEO Brian

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Speaker 3: Thompson for trial in the killing of CEO Brian Thompson.

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Speaker 3: So reading from the New York Post here just to

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Speaker 3: get the details all accurate. A judge has thrown out

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Speaker 3: the top counts in Luigi Mangioni's state murder case, rejecting

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Speaker 3: claims that the accused killer can be charged as a terrorist,

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Speaker 3: which the Post describes as quote a huge blow to prosecutors.

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Speaker 3: In that ruling release Tuesday, Judge Gregory Carro tossed charges

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Speaker 3: of murder in the first degree as an act of

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Speaker 3: terrorism and murder in the second degree as a crime

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Speaker 3: of terrorism against the twenty seven year old Ivy League

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Speaker 3: grad grad. The judge did keep alive man Joni's other

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Speaker 3: second degree murder charge for allegedly execute United Healthcare CEO

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Speaker 3: Brian Thompson and cold blood outside the healthcare company's investor

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Speaker 3: conference on December fourth, twenty twenty four. We can put

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Speaker 3: the next hair Street a tear sheet up on the

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Speaker 3: screen from ABC News, which goes on to say the

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Speaker 3: judge the judge's case was that the evidence presented to

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Speaker 3: the grand jury was insufficient to support the terrorism charge.

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Speaker 3: The quote here as while the defendant was clearly expressing

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Speaker 3: an animist towards UHC, United Healthcare, and the healthcare industry generally,

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Speaker 3: it does not follow that his goal was to quote,

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Speaker 3: intimidate and coerce a civilian population, and indeed there was

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Speaker 3: no evidence presented of such a goal. That is an

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Speaker 3: interesting argument. Ryan, I totally buy that there was insufficient

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Speaker 3: evidence presented to the grand jury. We have no idea

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Speaker 3: what evidence was actually presented to the grand jury. It

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Speaker 3: does those seem that part of the reason Mangioni's followers

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Speaker 3: have supported him, Right, So we can put the vo

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Speaker 3: on the screen.

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Speaker 7: This is E. Three.

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Speaker 3: You can see people say, celebrating the dropping of the

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Speaker 3: charges outside the courthouse yesterday. That's actually why people celebrate Mangioni.

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Speaker 3: Why the people who who are in this like creepy

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Speaker 3: cult of personality, Luigi cults of personality celebrate him is

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Speaker 3: because they see it as an act of terrorism to

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Speaker 3: intimidate CEOs. And so that's the argument here, is that

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Speaker 3: Mangioni himself doesn't see it.

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Speaker 7: That way, right exactly.

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Speaker 10: The whole reason they like him is that the killing

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Speaker 10: sent shockwaves through the executive class, right, particularly in the

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Speaker 10: insurance industry. I guess they're saying that they couldn't find

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Speaker 10: any claim directly from him that that was his intention.

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Speaker 10: But common sense with it would say, well, what else

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Speaker 10: was his intention? He wasn't even a United Health customer,

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Speaker 10: so it wasn't as if he had direct personal animus

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Speaker 10: or Brian Thompson.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

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Speaker 7: So what why then? What was the motive if it

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Speaker 7: wasn't that?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 10: Like, yeah, whether you like him or dislike him, that

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Speaker 10: that was his whole thing, right. It seems like there's

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Speaker 10: a manifesto, wasn't there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, another Klippenstein news.

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Speaker 10: Like Okay, well, I mean the guy's going to have

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Speaker 10: guys endless charges on him, Yeah, a both federal and state.

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Speaker 7: So getting a few dismissed is symbolic.

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Speaker 3: Although does it Does it not relate to the death penalty?

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Speaker 7: Well you can get a federal death penalty too, though.

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Speaker 3: But isn't that with the terrorism charges.

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Speaker 7: That was state level?

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Speaker 3: Oh well okay, okay, so understanding, okay, So yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that that makes more sense. Okay. So the question of

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Speaker 3: whether or not this was a met the broader standard

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Speaker 3: of terrorism, according to what was presented to the Grand

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Speaker 3: jury is the distinction between whether or not the grand

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Speaker 3: Juri said Okay, there's evidence for this, and US armchair

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks being like, well, right the dude said, the dudes,

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Speaker 3: why are you telling you? It wasn't an UHC customer,

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Speaker 3: at least not that I know of. So it does. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it does seem hard to believe that's how it went down,

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Speaker 3: But interesting ran to see the celebration in the midst

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Speaker 3: of the week that we've had.

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Speaker 10: Yes, probably not good timing for Luigi No, because I

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Speaker 10: think a lot of people who were kind of flip

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Speaker 10: or supportive of that killing are now looking at it

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Speaker 10: through a different lens, say WHOA okay, And I think

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Speaker 10: maybe it's because a lot a lot of nobody knew

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Speaker 10: nobody in the media world knew Brian Thompson.

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Speaker 7: That might have been part of it.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, clearly there's still some people willing to

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Speaker 10: come out and cheer them on.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yes, to your point, ABC News continues. In

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Speaker 3: addition to second degree murdered Manjoni will be tried in

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Speaker 3: state court on two counts of criminal possession of a

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Speaker 3: weapon and the second degree four counts of criminal possession

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Speaker 3: of a weapon and a third degree, one kind of

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Speaker 3: criminal possesion of a weapon in the fourth degree, and

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Speaker 3: one kind of criminal possession of a forged instrument in

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Speaker 3: the second degree. So obviously all kinds of charges still

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Speaker 3: sticking against Luigi Maggioni. It's just this particular two terrorism

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Speaker 3: charges that were dropped by the judge yesterday. He's pleaded

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Speaker 3: not guilty to state charges in New York and Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: and the federal charges. So to Ryan's point, those all exist.

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Speaker 3: These are state charges in New York and on the

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Speaker 3: terrorism account. Right, RN, let's move on to news out

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Speaker 3: of Gaza. I know you have some stuff to get

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Speaker 3: to here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we can put f one up on the screen here.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, a team of independent experts that was commissioned

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Speaker 10: by the United Nations Human Rights Council has concluded that

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Speaker 10: Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. That's the new report

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Speaker 10: issued this week. So at the United Nations, one of

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Speaker 10: the people involved with this report was pressed by the

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Speaker 10: media about the Israeli reaction to it and found this

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Speaker 10: kind of instructive as to where we are in this conversation.

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Speaker 7: Now, let's roll this.

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Speaker 4: These reports should be taken seriously, but Honestly, the Israeli

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Speaker 4: responses are becoming so boring. You know, they say the

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Speaker 4: same thing every time. They're producing the responses by CHET

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Speaker 4: GPT these days, and they spend so much money in

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Speaker 4: the Foreign Ministry on propaganda. Do you think that they've

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Speaker 4: actually come up with something original? I would want them

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Speaker 4: to engage with the evidence, but they never engage with

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Speaker 4: the evidence. By bunch that put the report into CHET GPT,

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Speaker 4: and then they put out the standard response. I'm no

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Speaker 4: one takes it seriously and Jamie, you shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 10: And so this is happening as the genocide is only

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Speaker 10: ramping up to genuinely unseen levels in in Gaza City.

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Speaker 7: And we can roll some of the footage.

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Speaker 10: That we've gotten from UH, from our correspondent Abdolcott or

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Speaker 10: Saba in Gaza City. Ah, what Israel has UH clearly

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Speaker 10: been doing over the last week plus is targeting some

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Speaker 10: of the most iconic and recognizable buildings in Gaza City,

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Speaker 10: these these high rises and just taking them down. What

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Speaker 10: what Abdolcata has been describing in others who we've who

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Speaker 10: are reporting for us out of Gaza City that they're

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Speaker 10: just getting just moments and and if you notice there

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Speaker 10: that how close they are to the to the beach,

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Speaker 10: like there's not there's basically nowhere.

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Speaker 7: Left to go. They're getting minutes.

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Speaker 10: Warning that these this huge building, how you know they're

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Speaker 10: all housing hundreds of families is about to get taken down.

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Speaker 10: And Ablakata said he's has seen images of people and

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Speaker 10: seen seen with his own eyes people getting these messages

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Speaker 10: and then just immediately just throwing everything they have out

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Speaker 10: the window, like taking mattresses because now they know, oh,

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Speaker 10: displacement is absolutely here and we need we're gonna need

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Speaker 10: somewhere to sleep. So they're taking the mattresses and throwing

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Speaker 10: them out the window, taking blankets and anything else that

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Speaker 10: they can try can get their hands on and get

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Speaker 10: to a window and throw it out and still give

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Speaker 10: themselves enough time to get out of the building before

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Speaker 10: the terrorsts strike it and and take it down, and

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Speaker 10: offering just the most ridiculous explanations. Sometimes they'll say that,

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Speaker 10: well there was a camera on top of the building,

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Speaker 10: Like really, you know, they have operational can over huge

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Speaker 10: portions of Gaza City. Yep, you find you saw camera

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Speaker 10: on top of the building. You can actually just go

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Speaker 10: shoot the camera if you want, if that's really a

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Speaker 10: Hamas camera, you had to take out these buildings, many

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Speaker 10: being taken out with people inside them. What's going on

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Speaker 10: is they're trying to make Gaza City, the largest city

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Speaker 10: in Palestine, uninhabitable and just and force a question like

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Speaker 10: just forced like because they have no endgame here because

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Speaker 10: the end oh.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's eradicating Hamas, right, and they're on the

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Speaker 3: cusp of it, just.

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Speaker 10: Right around the corner. Any minute now, they're going to

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Speaker 10: eradicate Hamas.

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Speaker 3: Even though Anthony Blincoln told us as Biden was leaving

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Speaker 3: office earlier this year that Hamas had already reconstituted of

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Speaker 3: what it had been.

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Speaker 10: Right, and their weapons, as we've said before, come from

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Speaker 10: unexploded Israeli munitions. Israel has dropped so many bombs and

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Speaker 10: as significant, whether it's one or ten, it's going to

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Speaker 10: be more than a resistance organization could ever need. So

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Speaker 10: they use the unexploded ordinance. And when the IDEF actually

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Speaker 10: does send in ground troops, which is rare, mostly they're

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Speaker 10: doing this through the air. Then these fighters run up

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Speaker 10: to the tanks and just throw the munitions into the

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Speaker 10: tank and cause you know, significant casualties. Most of it

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Speaker 10: is done from the air though, because you know what

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Speaker 10: you know in the in the long run, if they

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Speaker 10: can make it uninhabitable, they feel like, okay, then they

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Speaker 10: have to go somewhere else. Now, one place they could

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Speaker 10: go would just be eastward with a giant neg of

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Speaker 10: desert that if this was really about eradicating Hamas, the

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Speaker 10: Palestinian population in god that could move eastward into Israeli territory.

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Speaker 10: They can then fight it against Hamas and then rebuild Gaza,

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Speaker 10: and then people move back into Gaza. But the plan

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Speaker 10: is not for them to move back into Gaza. The

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Speaker 10: problem is, and talking to people who are involved in evacuations,

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Speaker 10: it is difficult to find host countries to take one

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Speaker 10: or two people. It's almost impossible to find that a country,

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Speaker 10: even Ireland, they'll take dozens, they're not taking hundreds. Israel's

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Speaker 10: trying to expel upwards of two million. They don't have

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Speaker 10: anywhere to send them. Now, we keep getting reports of

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Speaker 10: negotiations going on between Libya or Somaliland or South Sudan,

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Speaker 10: and so maybe eventually they will pressure some country, some

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Speaker 10: be leaguered country with what will recognize you Somaliland if

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Speaker 10: you agree to take two million Palestinians, but then physically, like,

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Speaker 10: if all Israel can do against Tamas is bomb them physically,

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Speaker 10: how do you force that to happen. Well, what they're

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Speaker 10: trying to do is push everybody down to the south

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Speaker 10: and then they think from there they'll be able to

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Speaker 10: push them out.

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Speaker 7: How like it's so but you know it's not, it's

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Speaker 7: not well thought out.

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Speaker 10: It's just a day to day Internet drops I Daily,

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Speaker 10: which is our new newsletter which people should get if

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Speaker 10: they're not reporting.

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Speaker 7: This morning.

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Speaker 10: The internet's now cut off in northern Gaza. So we

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Speaker 10: have no idea what's going on up there in the

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Speaker 10: last several hours unless people can get a you know,

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Speaker 10: have an Israeli simcard, that's the only base and then

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Speaker 10: then it gets cell service like that. That's the only

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Speaker 10: way people can communicate out of northern Gaza at this point.

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Speaker 10: And so the in the midst of this we have

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Speaker 10: another report from a drop side.

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Speaker 7: Actually we can put up the Genoa doc workers have.

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Speaker 10: Said have have have entered the fray and have said

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Speaker 10: have said that on September twenty second, they will shut

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Speaker 10: the port of Genua down if there is any any

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Speaker 10: interference with the flotilla that is now headed towards Gaza's

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Speaker 10: humanitarian flu patilla, more than forty ships with humanitarian aid

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Speaker 10: that are trying to get into Gaza.

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Speaker 7: The general dog we're saying, it doesn't.

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Speaker 10: Make sense that we can send seventeen thousand tons of

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Speaker 10: military equipment to help Israel carry out its genocide, but

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Speaker 10: we can't send fifty tons of humanitarian aid in.

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Speaker 7: If they carry.

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Speaker 10: Out a shut it would be very difficult to be

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Speaker 10: against the law and itallly do it. But if they

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Speaker 10: did shut down the port of Genera, that seizes up

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Speaker 10: commercial traffic in Europe to a significant degree, because it's

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Speaker 10: I think the most significant. Marseille is a very significant

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Speaker 10: port too, but I think Genera might be even more

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Speaker 10: significant to commercial traffic in and out of Europe.

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Speaker 7: This is but there is.

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Speaker 10: You know, you've got the UN at the top saying

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Speaker 10: this is genocide. You've got the DOC workers in the

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Speaker 10: ground saying that we're not going to abide by this,

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Speaker 10: but everywhere else the governments are abiding by it.

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Speaker 3: What do you think happens next? I mean, what's your

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Speaker 3: prediction with this?

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Speaker 10: There seems to be no willingness to to stop this

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Speaker 10: and Israel seems hell bent on carry on carrying it out.

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Speaker 10: They you know, there was some hope recently that because

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Speaker 10: Hamas kept saying yes to every ceasefire deal, that this

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Speaker 10: would end. And then Trump had put out this little

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Speaker 10: hundred words ceasefire offer that was very basic. Hamas responded

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Speaker 10: very favorable, and then they met to like formulate their

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Speaker 10: final response to it, and then Israel bombed them while

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Speaker 10: they were meeting to discuss this ceasefire offer. And so

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Speaker 10: now that's where we are.

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Speaker 3: What do you think happens with the dock workers.

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Speaker 7: I think they'll try.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know if the flotilla will be in

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Speaker 10: Gaza by the twenty second.

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Speaker 7: We'll see.

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Speaker 10: So, I mean they're they seem resolute and and there

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Speaker 10: was a there was a vote of the those two unions.

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Speaker 10: You can see the whole video over a job site.

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Speaker 7: Uh. So we'll see. But you know, the power of

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Speaker 7: the state is is serious. And you know this. You

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Speaker 7: know states have broken plenty of strikes before.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is for sure, super interesting story.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, yes, thank you. So we'll be back on Friday,

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Speaker 10: Crystal and Saga.

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Speaker 7: We'll be here.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow, right, we'll be and if you want the second

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Speaker 3: half of the Friday Show, including any cable news producers

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Speaker 3: that might be a listening if you want to pull clips.

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Speaker 10: Apparently you don't want to miss the Friday Show. That's

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Speaker 10: where the that's where the big stuff happens. Bringpoints dot

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Speaker 10: Com become a premium subscriber there, I will.

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Speaker 3: Say, we're we're definitely more casual on the Friday Show.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot more so of relaxed conversations.

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Speaker 7: Which get yourselves in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, even though nobody did anything that is worth getting

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Speaker 3: anybody in trouble for the one million time the night.

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Speaker 10: But the nice thing about people subscribing is that you

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Speaker 10: can't get in trouble.

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Speaker 7: There's nobody.

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Speaker 10: There is nobody that can make a phone call that's

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Speaker 10: right and be like, I don't like what Emily or Ryan,

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Speaker 10: a Crystal or soccer said, so you need to get

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Speaker 10: rid of them or Griffin of course, Yeah, well Griffin,

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Speaker 10: just just get rid of everybody.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just roll it solo.

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Speaker 3: But no, I mean the Breakingpoints dot Com. That's where

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Speaker 3: you get access to the second half of that show

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Speaker 3: where we say even crazier things. But no, I think

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Speaker 3: ran over the last week. Crystal mentioned this too, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we're all taking a lot of heat. Anybody

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Speaker 3: who's who's talking publicly right now is taking a lot

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Speaker 3: of heat. Even if you know we covered as recline

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Speaker 3: earlier in the show, Even if you're saying something anadyne

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Speaker 3: is like, political violence is not a good not a

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Speaker 3: good answer. So I just I just think it's important.

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Speaker 3: My final thought for today show is that it's just

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Speaker 3: important to sit across from somebody who disagrees with you

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Speaker 3: on the most personal, intimate, meaningful I mean, as deep

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Speaker 3: and meaningful as like religion, with all four of us,

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Speaker 3: and we sit across from each other, and even when

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Speaker 3: I think, and even when you guys think, even when

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Speaker 3: I think, you guys, and even when you guys think

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Speaker 3: I am saying stuff that is deeply wrong and dangerous,

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Speaker 3: we still sit across from each other and have those conversations.

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Speaker 3: And we do it because I think fundamentally, you guys

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Speaker 3: are good people, and I hope we all. I think

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Speaker 3: we all think that of each other. And good people

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Speaker 3: are capable of being wrong. Good people are capable of

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Speaker 3: supporting dangerous ideas. And I'm not saying that's true of

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Speaker 3: you guys, but I'm just saying I think that's fundamentally

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Speaker 3: what we do. And the basis of that is, I

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Speaker 3: know that you are sitting across from me is a

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Speaker 3: decent human being that wants the best for your family

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Speaker 3: and for people in general and for humanity.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and even if you think people are totally wrong

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Speaker 10: about something, you also have to remember that people are

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Speaker 10: never fixed in time, like people are always on a journey. Now,

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Speaker 10: Charlie Kirk's journey, whatever it was going to lead to,

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Speaker 10: was cut short. That's right, Yeah, buy that bullet. But

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Speaker 10: those journeys, you know, should be allowed to continue.

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Speaker 3: And and it don't happen if you don't talk right.

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Speaker 10: And I do genuinely think that this countryuld be a

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Speaker 10: better place if more people would just watch this show.

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Speaker 7: And do politics this way.

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Speaker 10: People might think that's self interested to say that it's

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Speaker 10: actually against self interest, because I you know, it used

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Speaker 10: to be when the YouTube podcast rankings would come out

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Speaker 10: and we're like pretty high up top thirty, top twenty, whatever, I'd.

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Speaker 7: Be like, wow, that's great.

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Speaker 10: Now I see those ranks and I'm like, maybe we

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Speaker 10: want to push down.

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Speaker 7: Let's get back down around a five hundred or so.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if like twenty five or thirty is

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Speaker 10: where we want to be anymore. So it's actually against

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Speaker 10: self interest to say that more people should watch this show.

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Speaker 10: But at the same time, I think it's true, Like

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Speaker 10: I genuine you think it's better than just being being

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Speaker 10: fed this like and living in this epistemic bubble. And

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Speaker 10: like a lot of liberals I think still think a

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Speaker 10: grouper did this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, they did a poll. Actually, there's a

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Speaker 3: pole that.

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Speaker 7: And they'll always think it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe you really want to not know what's going

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Speaker 10: on in the world, even if it makes you feel

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Speaker 10: better for a moment.

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Speaker 3: And things aren't fixed. In time, we do get more answers. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: I think that's really important. And it's not always people

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Speaker 3: assume that it's it's just sort of like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's not always easy. I think

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Speaker 3: we've sorted ourselves out of these bubbles a lot, but

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Speaker 3: it's not always easy. This across room, people you disagree

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Speaker 3: with and you know, not pop off and shout and yell,

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Speaker 3: because we all have, you know, strong fixed beliefs, But

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Speaker 3: when you think the other person is decent, then you

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Speaker 3: can and that is just like such a gift from

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Speaker 3: the show. I mean just it is an doable gift.

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Speaker 3: I'm really grateful to you guys so enjoy it, and

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Speaker 3: grateful to everybody who supports the show because we make

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Speaker 3: it possible. Thank you, thank you. We will see you

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Speaker 3: on Friday. Chris Non Soccer will be back here tomorrow