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Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today
Speaker 4: we're going to be speaking with Craig Campobasso. Craig is
Speaker 4: an entertainment industry professional. He's a multiple award winning filmmaker,
Speaker 4: an Emmy nominated casting director, and also a writer. He's
Speaker 4: a UFO enthusiast experiencer and researcher. Among his books are
Speaker 4: two that he's done for MUFAN. The first one was
Speaker 4: The Extraterrestrial Species Almanac, The Ultimate Guide to Gray's Reptilians,
Speaker 4: Hybrids and Nordics, which he has even made into a
Speaker 4: full length documentary somehow. And the second one is The
Speaker 4: UFO Hotspot Compendium, which is a UFO hunter's bucket list
Speaker 4: of legendary and active UFO and alien hotspots in North America.
Speaker 4: Among his many other film projects, Craig wrote, directed, and
Speaker 4: produced the award winning short film Stranger at the Pentagon
Speaker 4: I Love That, which was adopted from the popular UFO
Speaker 4: book of the same name by doctor Frank Strangers. Today,
Speaker 4: we're going to dive into all those with Craig.
Speaker 5: How you doing, brother, I'm doing great. How are you, Captain?
Speaker 4: Good? Good to see you again, my friend, you too.
Speaker 4: So let's start off briefly about this documentary that you
Speaker 4: recently did. I think it's the Extraterrestrial Species Almanac, which
Speaker 4: I believe you debuted at the Contact in the Desert
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four thing, which was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: You know, I've never heard of somebody turning an almanac
Speaker 4: Craig into a documentary. This is the first time I've
Speaker 4: heard of that. How'd you pull that off? Well?
Speaker 5: I never had planned on doing it, but when the
Speaker 5: press release went out through the publishers to you know,
Speaker 5: to all of the press outlets, I started getting emails
Speaker 5: from production companies that wanted to make it into a documentary.
Speaker 5: And that was before I even had like pinned to work, right,
Speaker 5: And so I thought.
Speaker 4: You wrote the book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, before I even wrote the book, you know, when
Speaker 5: they sent out the initial press release. Yeah, so I thought, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna get a little ahead of myself here,
Speaker 5: but I'm a filmmaker and lots of my friends are
Speaker 5: award winning documentarians as well, and so I'm just I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do it myself. So got the book, you know,
Speaker 5: the book immediately, you know, it was on the bestseller
Speaker 5: list on Amazon under UFOs and a few other categories.
Speaker 5: It's still it still is. It fluctuates between going into
Speaker 5: the top ten and then going to fifty and then
Speaker 5: going back down.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So that's pretty good for the amount of books that
Speaker 5: are out there.
Speaker 4: So fantastic.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I thought, you know, it would be great. Is
Speaker 5: this documentary will be an extension of the book, like,
Speaker 5: for instance, for the Clarion race, I interviewed Marizzio Cavallo,
Speaker 5: who only speaks Italian, who lives in a little remote
Speaker 5: village anyway, he had a picture that polaroids that he
Speaker 5: had taken of them throughout the years. I really wanted
Speaker 5: him to be in the documentary because it's a story
Speaker 5: that not many people have heard. So Tonya maiden Ford
Speaker 5: and Frank Jacob, who are my other producers who are
Speaker 5: in Europe, they went down there with an interpreter and
Speaker 5: I wrote out all the questions and they interviewed him
Speaker 5: for two days, so we've got lots of great footage
Speaker 5: on him. And then another contact ee is six dopas Wells,
Speaker 5: who have been contact with the Alpha Centaurians, has been
Speaker 5: on their craft over one hundred times. So it's an
Speaker 5: extension of a lot of the research I did for
Speaker 5: the Almanac, right, and a lot of the races in
Speaker 5: the Almanac come from real, live, face to face contact
Speaker 5: with extraterrestrials, and so I went and got permission from
Speaker 5: the authors or those publishers to include those races also
Speaker 5: in the book. And then as we know I got
Speaker 5: some people who claim to be hybrids with extraterrestrial races. Now,
Speaker 5: us in the UFO community are used to that. I
Speaker 5: know it's a little hard spilled to swallow for people
Speaker 5: out there, but these things happen because I've met with
Speaker 5: people in the know and people who say that they
Speaker 5: usually only hire hybrids to do important jobs in the military,
Speaker 5: in the government and things like that, because they are
Speaker 5: so much smarter than the average person because they have
Speaker 5: these wow yeah, chig.
Speaker 4: Through the years, we've had so many different claims about
Speaker 4: obviously alien experiences, and there's been a different number that
Speaker 4: you keep hearing about about different alien species supposedly that
Speaker 4: have visited Earth. Paul Hellier, I think said eighty two.
Speaker 4: Barbara Lambs told me, I think she said ninety six.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of different numbers thrown around. How many
Speaker 4: did you cover in your book and did you get
Speaker 4: them all?
Speaker 5: The publisher only wanted thumbnail reviews of the races. I
Speaker 5: had to come in under three hundred pages, and because
Speaker 5: if it goes above that, then the book costs more,
Speaker 5: and then people don't want to pay a lot of
Speaker 5: money for books, So I had to keep it under
Speaker 5: So just what you said about Paul Hellier. I was
Speaker 5: a big fan of his when he was alive and
Speaker 5: still am. I thought, I'm going to see if I
Speaker 5: could fit eighty two races into this book and honor him,
Speaker 5: and I was just able to squeeze it in. I
Speaker 5: did have at the time over one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 5: But I just want to give you this little statistic.
Speaker 5: The Alpha Centaurians say that they know of one million,
Speaker 5: nineteen thousand races in the universe that they know.
Speaker 4: This went from two to ten eighty two. I mean,
Speaker 4: but wait, hold on, Craig, let me ask you, what's
Speaker 4: the criteria for you? I mean, they're saying that huge number.
Speaker 4: What is your criteria? Is there certain do a lot
Speaker 4: of people have to have seen a certain race for
Speaker 4: it to qualify, because we know there's a lot of
Speaker 4: one offs in this community that stories. I've heard that
Speaker 4: only one person ever said with something like that make
Speaker 4: it in the book. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It would just depend on the actual contact e So
Speaker 5: you just.
Speaker 4: Chose based on the interviews you were doing with.
Speaker 5: People exactly exactly, and most of them were multiples, multiples
Speaker 5: where lots of information was exchanged, so that you got
Speaker 5: to know really about the social state, ructure, the spiritual background,
Speaker 5: why they're here, what are they doing here, things of
Speaker 5: that kind of nature.
Speaker 4: Over the years, we've had these different ideas, Craig, of
Speaker 4: what quote unquote aliens are, and it seems to have
Speaker 4: morphed a bit just in the last I don't know,
Speaker 4: ten years. It seems like it used to be very
Speaker 4: clear cut that it was a race of beings from
Speaker 4: another planet that traveled here. But nowadays we constantly hear
Speaker 4: about inter dimensional beings, crypto terrestrials, beings from another time.
Speaker 4: Even what do you think these beings in your book are?
Speaker 5: They're they're a little of both, some today and some
Speaker 5: from yesteryear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Craig, I know you've had your own experiences. Is
Speaker 4: that where you get your ideas from from your own experiences?
Speaker 4: Or do other individuals that you know have they influenced
Speaker 4: you by telling you their stories?
Speaker 5: Well, my story began when I was twenty six and
Speaker 5: I had your spiritual awakening. It's like I tell everybody,
Speaker 5: I never I never thought about I wasn't even into
Speaker 5: sci fi. I never thought about what was out there
Speaker 5: in the great big universe. And beginning in dream states,
Speaker 5: there were these three what I call universal Master teachers,
Speaker 5: and through the course of two years took me from
Speaker 5: valiant Thorpe put put it to doctor Frank. He said,
Speaker 5: we're all clouds becoming gods. That's what we are, because
Speaker 5: we're all we're all striving and quickening our duality and
Speaker 5: then we ascend and then then where you know, then
Speaker 5: we're part of of their world, their their universe.
Speaker 4: Right, we ascend up to their level.
Speaker 5: Is that that's right? Exactly?
Speaker 4: Okay, let's take a break there, Craig. When we come back,
Speaker 4: we're going to talk more with Craig about his other
Speaker 4: move on book, the UFO Hotspot Compendium, and we'll see
Speaker 4: where these hotspots are located in North America. You're listening
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Speaker 4: Captain Ron. We're talking with Craig Campobasso. Craig, let's talk
Speaker 4: about this UFO Compendium book. It feels like it's sort
Speaker 4: of a companion book to the Almanac.
Speaker 5: Right it is. Mouffon wanted to do something that would
Speaker 5: sort of marry to the et Almanac, and so they
Speaker 5: came up with the idea of calling it the UFO
Speaker 5: bucket List, which I never liked. So in the end,
Speaker 5: when you moved up with UFO Hotspot Compendium all the
Speaker 5: places to visit before you die or are abducted, which
Speaker 5: I think is great. I did come up with that anyway,
Speaker 5: So the head of mof ON sent out to all
Speaker 5: of the move On state directors to nominate their favorite
Speaker 5: hotspots in the US and Canada. So I got all
Speaker 5: of those compiled them. Of course I had my own,
Speaker 5: and on the Shag Harbor, I worked directly with Chris Styles,
Speaker 5: and you know, because he had reopened the case and
Speaker 5: found out so much more information than what was originally there.
Speaker 5: So I would work directly with the people. One of
Speaker 5: my favorite hotspots is Giant Rock and the Integratron, so
Speaker 5: that's right, that's right. So I know the historian Barbara
Speaker 5: Harris Giant Rock, and I know the three the carl
Speaker 5: sisters that own the Tegratron. Interestingly enough, the first time
Speaker 5: I went there is they were going to put on
Speaker 5: a retro UFO thing like George van Tassel used to
Speaker 5: do way back in the day. They have these big
Speaker 5: UFO conferences, and they had called me and doctor Frank.
Speaker 5: They wanted doctor Frank to come and speak. So doctor
Speaker 5: Frank and I went down and they closed the place
Speaker 5: down for the day and we talked, and then doctor
Speaker 5: Frank was saying, I was the original announcer I used
Speaker 5: to MC George Van Tassel's UFO symposiums way back in
Speaker 5: the whole You believe that they did that. You never
Speaker 5: knew that, that is, yeah, I know, and he and
Speaker 5: I have and he gave me. You know, I have
Speaker 5: all most of doctor Frank's pictures, so I have him there,
Speaker 5: everyone who is anyone was there at a certain time.
Speaker 5: I even have the video that Bob Short made of
Speaker 5: in its heyday. It came to be ten thousand people
Speaker 5: were out in the middle of the desert and campers
Speaker 5: and all kinds of things because there was nothing. It
Speaker 5: was like, you know, that was the very first contact
Speaker 5: in the desert. That's like right right, exactly exactly anyway,
Speaker 5: So I was able to, you know, get in and
Speaker 5: get all the pictures and things like that, you know,
Speaker 5: from the archives of things that I didn't have. I
Speaker 5: of course went through all of Van Tassel's interviews to
Speaker 5: find out exactly what Salgonda look like, because he would
Speaker 5: only describe him like, oh, he had short, blonde hair
Speaker 5: in one interview. Another one he was five six, another
Speaker 5: one he had blue eyes. So I got it all compiled,
Speaker 5: and then I had an artist create Salgonda and put
Speaker 5: it in the UFO Hotspot books so people can get
Speaker 5: an idea of what he looked like. But I'll tell
Speaker 5: you in many other contact tee cases, face to face,
Speaker 5: they're all five six with short hair. Just say, you know,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 4: Love when you hear things repeated because it adds to
Speaker 4: the city of the original count.
Speaker 5: It does, and they say that they do that because
Speaker 5: it's the form that those people here on earth would
Speaker 5: not be afraid of, right, so they would be shorter
Speaker 5: than them, they would be all of those things. There's
Speaker 5: many there. I have many stories like that.
Speaker 4: But that's interesting, Craig. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 4: How does the place become one of these UFO hotspots.
Speaker 4: Is it the fame of a place, or like the
Speaker 4: frequency of reports. For example, is Roswell one of them
Speaker 4: because it's got this famous one case that happened there,
Speaker 4: or is it more like something like Mount Adams where
Speaker 4: you constantly hear of sighting, sighting, sighting, sighting.
Speaker 5: Right, I think Roswell just because of the ginormous amount
Speaker 5: of publicity and movies and things that have and it
Speaker 5: is a tourist attraction. Now when you go to that town,
Speaker 5: I mean every store is just filled with a garb.
Speaker 5: You know, the museum is amazing. But then Mount Atams,
Speaker 5: I mean I've been there. I saw stuff at Mount
Speaker 5: Adams through the night vision binoculars. They have everything up
Speaker 5: on their website of all the people that have been
Speaker 5: there in their testimonials, things that they've caught, you know, bigfoots,
Speaker 5: and it said that a ship landed in the middle
Speaker 5: of the not landed, but was hovering over the property
Speaker 5: in the middle of the day many years ago. It
Speaker 5: said that it's the Pleiadians that have a base below
Speaker 5: Mount Atoms. And so you know you kind of see
Speaker 5: these lights plasma looking ships and they go into the mountain.
Speaker 5: Is because when they convert to the fourth dimension, fourth
Speaker 5: and fifth they turn to light. Then they can go
Speaker 5: through solid objects and then when they get into the
Speaker 5: landing pad they go and they're back in three D.
Speaker 4: So do you have a favorite place that you've gone
Speaker 4: to Craig one of these? Have you been some of them?
Speaker 5: Yeah? And with our mutual friend Larie Wagner, Bradshaw Ranch.
Speaker 5: Bradshaw Ranch is just a trip. It is like Skinwalker
Speaker 5: Ranch on steroids. I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 5: And here's the interesting thing. A lady that doctor Frank
Speaker 5: introduced me to, she actually worked at the Bradshaw Ranch
Speaker 5: when it was a working ranch, and she is the
Speaker 5: one that started telling me all of the stories about
Speaker 5: the albino Bigfoot that Linda Bradshaw, Bob's wife called big Girl,
Speaker 5: that there they would hear reptilian the sounds and hisses
Speaker 5: and noises and see reptilian footprints out of nowhere. Gray's
Speaker 5: landed in the middle of the night and were surrounding
Speaker 5: the houses looking in the windows when they were awake.
Speaker 5: I mean, I would freak out it that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: as have dinosaurs there.
Speaker 4: People seem like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but it's it's so you know what it is,
Speaker 5: it's so multi dimensional that the veil is lifted when
Speaker 5: you're there. I'm very sensitive and when I go I
Speaker 5: can feel all those dimensions just folding. I mean, the
Speaker 5: first time, I was really afraid something was going to
Speaker 5: come walking out of nowhere. And I'm going to tell
Speaker 5: you this. There's a guy's on the strip. It's in
Speaker 5: the middle of nowhere. It's frightening and if you if
Speaker 5: you were there at night, it would be even more
Speaker 5: terrifying because it's just so paranormal. But Linda's son had
Speaker 5: a video camera. He would videotape things, but in the
Speaker 5: viewfinder what you were seeing was not what was actually there.
Speaker 5: I don't know you know how many multiple dimensional layers
Speaker 5: and things that it is, but they do say a
Speaker 5: lot of people in the paranormal And I even remember
Speaker 5: Sylvia Brown, the famous psychic, saying she said, the spirit
Speaker 5: world is three feet off the ground from Earth. That's
Speaker 5: where the spirit that's where it begins. If you think
Speaker 5: about dimensional layers and things like that, there's so many things.
Speaker 5: I mean, the creatures that the sun saw in the
Speaker 5: middle of Like driving home late one night and this
Speaker 5: thing walked out, looked like a miniature horse and a cat,
Speaker 5: and it had long hair. It was just weird and bizarre.
Speaker 5: It stopped, it looked at them, it went across the
Speaker 5: road and disappeared, and then on the same night in
Speaker 5: another state, I think it was Idaho, that same creature
Speaker 5: was also spotted. So are they walking through these dimensional
Speaker 5: portals like bigfoots using portals and things like that, because
Speaker 5: they're there and then they're not there. Right?
Speaker 4: Do you have another one of these places that you
Speaker 4: haven't been able to get to yet that you'd like
Speaker 4: to go see personally?
Speaker 5: Maybe golf Breeze. They had them so regularly there but
Speaker 5: thoroughly investigated with moufon Project blue Book. I think I
Speaker 5: did put that in the hotspots as well. Every move
Speaker 5: on and blue Book believed everyone, all of the witnesses
Speaker 5: and things like that. And I'll never forget doctor Frank
Speaker 5: once told me. He said Valiant Thor once told me,
Speaker 5: if you see a ship that looks like a beehive,
Speaker 5: run for the hills. They are very evil and these
Speaker 5: ships look like bee hives.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I love when these things overlap like that.
Speaker 4: Like how interesting Doctor Frank has come up twice now
Speaker 4: we haven't even gotten doctor right, I know, I know,
Speaker 4: very interesting. When we come back, we're going to talk
Speaker 4: to Craig more about this on the UFO not Spot
Speaker 4: Compendium book and see where some of the other hotspites
Speaker 4: might be in the world. You're listening to Beyond Contact
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Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Craig camp Obaso. Craig,
Speaker 4: do you know which one of these sites has been
Speaker 4: the most visited?
Speaker 5: I would say the most visited sites with UFOs and
Speaker 5: extra terrestrials is going to be Sidney. Now, it might
Speaker 5: also be the Giant Rock, because you know that's where
Speaker 5: Silgonda originally went. I interviewed Daniel Boone many years ago
Speaker 5: with our friend Laurie Wagner. He was married to one
Speaker 5: of Van Tassel's daughters. Him and his son were living
Speaker 5: in the trailer that George and his wife lived in
Speaker 5: way back when, and this was before he passed. I mean,
Speaker 5: he looked like an old wise man with long, long
Speaker 5: white hair, beard, the most piercing blue eyes. And he
Speaker 5: told me he said he saw the ship because he
Speaker 5: was living over across the day he saw the ship
Speaker 5: there in the middle of the night. He said he
Speaker 5: saw ships all the time coming in there in the
Speaker 5: middle of nowhere, right, and there is a military base
Speaker 5: near there on the other side of the mountains.
Speaker 4: So why do you think it happens in the middle
Speaker 4: of nowhere? Isn't that sort of the stereotypical thing people
Speaker 4: think of when they think of people that have had
Speaker 4: an abduction or an UFO experience, that it's always this
Speaker 4: out in the middle of nowhere. Isn't it true that
Speaker 4: it happens in downtown La? Right?
Speaker 5: It absolutely happens in downtown and La. I mean people
Speaker 5: I've worked with on movies. Director I said, look, all
Speaker 5: you got to do is look up and you'll find it.
Speaker 5: And he found when he took a picture of it.
Speaker 5: An agent sent me a picture he got a total
Speaker 5: silver donut over Los Angeles, unbelievable, unmistakenly, kind of like
Speaker 5: from the very first Men in Black contact where they
Speaker 5: had six donut ships, the moriy Island incident. And recently
Speaker 5: my attorney and we had who lives in Pump Springs
Speaker 5: and came out for the screening and everything. He had
Speaker 5: never heard of an extraterrestrial until he met me, right,
Speaker 5: And so I said, look, all you got to do
Speaker 5: is like if I said, Pump Springs is like a
Speaker 5: hot spot for them. They're all over the place. And
Speaker 5: the night before he came, he walked outside, and so
Speaker 5: he filmed it and he showed it to me, and
Speaker 5: he was like so blown away. He just couldn't believe
Speaker 5: that it existed to him.
Speaker 4: And then it's like in his mind and then he
Speaker 4: does back to see one that's happened.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4: Craig, you had spots like this all over the world.
Speaker 5: Oh, completely, lots of hot spots everywhere. Just for instance,
Speaker 5: like val Thor's craft Victor one, Victor two. He's in
Speaker 5: Victor one. They're stationed and over two hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: locations in and around the Earth. That's just his compliment.
Speaker 5: And then there's also a giant starship which he built,
Speaker 5: is fourteen miles wide and seven miles long. It's like
Speaker 5: its own movable city.
Speaker 4: People who say the craft are like five miles long,
Speaker 4: like they're indecutable. It's hard to know what's real in
Speaker 4: all of this. Completely, Well, do you have a follow
Speaker 4: up book here? Are you going to do one about
Speaker 4: the whole world? You could?
Speaker 5: I could? I mean my follow up books are to
Speaker 5: my book series, The Autobiography of an Extraterrestrial Saga. I
Speaker 5: have four books and that series out.
Speaker 4: Which is another great title that the title of the
Speaker 4: Autobiography of an Extraterrestrial Saga is awesome. I yeah, I
Speaker 4: do like your your titles very much. I need to
Speaker 4: title something. I know who I'm going to call call me.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I've just finished doing two prequel books to the series,
Speaker 5: which won't be out for a while. As you know,
Speaker 5: we've just been finishing the et almanact up mentor I mean,
Speaker 5: it's all done. We're going to be releasing it on
Speaker 5: DVD December first.
Speaker 4: Excell so you know.
Speaker 5: So that's cool.
Speaker 4: This book, Sheries, you're talking about, Craig, isn't that sort
Speaker 4: of based on some of your own personal experiences?
Speaker 5: It is completely It's based on when I was woken
Speaker 5: up at the age of twenty six. And the way
Speaker 5: that I can explain it to people is it's like
Speaker 5: Star Trek looked out into the universe. This is the
Speaker 5: beings out there looking in on Earth and how they're
Speaker 5: raising the planet in consciousness for us to merge our
Speaker 5: duality so that our egos become balanced, and then we
Speaker 5: work from our heart and not our mind and our
Speaker 5: reactions anymore. So people always say to me, what's what's
Speaker 5: the most important thing that I can do, and I
Speaker 5: say it is actually working on how to learn to
Speaker 5: control your emotions and look at how the other person
Speaker 5: is thinking. Because up there in their worlds when they
Speaker 5: when they use telepathy, they don't hide anything about what's
Speaker 5: inside of them, all of their feelings and all of that.
Speaker 5: They embrace it. But when they transfer the thought, they're
Speaker 5: also transferring the feeling. So if they're telling you a story,
Speaker 5: you're going to feel it as if you experienced it,
Speaker 5: and then it becomes a part of your experience.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so it's really.
Speaker 4: It was like you couldn't lie doing that either right.
Speaker 5: Now you can't now you can't lie now.
Speaker 4: Maybe it'd be great if we could maybe into that. Craig,
Speaker 4: do you think that these alien races you talk about
Speaker 4: have been coming here throughout history? How far back do
Speaker 4: you think that that goes?
Speaker 5: Doctor Frank told me when he was getting his history
Speaker 5: lessons because he was able to ask them about a
Speaker 5: lot of things, that the very first world on Earth
Speaker 5: was called the land of Othello, that there were two
Speaker 5: casta beings. Everyone was harmonious, and then at a certain
Speaker 5: point certain people started thinking one way and then the
Speaker 5: others started thinking the other way, and then they destroyed
Speaker 5: their civilization. I really don't know much more than that.
Speaker 5: But then you wonder, well, okay, if your beings that
Speaker 5: can get around the universe pretty quick, you're going to
Speaker 5: come and explore other worlds. So it has been said
Speaker 5: through a lot of these contactees like Pleadians, Syrians Andromedins,
Speaker 5: et cetera, clarions that they came and that they lived
Speaker 5: on Earth, and that their DNA is on the planet
Speaker 5: like our DNA is a part of all of their DNA. Right,
Speaker 5: we're already hybrids. We just don't know it. I always say,
Speaker 5: one day twenty three and meters is going to give
Speaker 5: you your extra terrestrial origins, right.
Speaker 4: They say that oftentimes that possibly, you know, we were
Speaker 4: created by some of these that are doing you know,
Speaker 4: the missing link or whatever. So it's an interesting thought.
Speaker 4: I don't think you and I have really ever talked
Speaker 4: about this. What do you feel about disclosure? Because I
Speaker 4: know they're having more congressional hearings coming up here in November.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: Well, I know and I have championed Steve Bassett. I
Speaker 5: mean that man works tirelessly towards it. I haven't followed
Speaker 5: up on it as much as I should have. But
Speaker 5: I also feel through everything that experiencers, abductees and myself
Speaker 5: and other people who are sharing information is also a
Speaker 5: part of disclosure because there's so many more people who
Speaker 5: are now open to just listening to it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I always say, you know, I don't believe everything I
Speaker 5: hear either, but I also say to myself, well, isn't
Speaker 5: that an interesting thought? And it helps you to expand
Speaker 5: your thoughts in a direction that maybe you hadn't thought
Speaker 5: of it. It's always interesting to just say, you know, look,
Speaker 5: if it doesn't gel with you, now set it aside
Speaker 5: and come back to it later, and you might understand it.
Speaker 5: It's like reading a book. Like when I worked on
Speaker 5: the original Dune, I couldn't even I couldn't even read
Speaker 5: that book. I mean, you know, I was just out
Speaker 5: of high school. I didn't understand. I could read it now,
Speaker 5: you know, and totally understand it. And so it's kind
Speaker 5: of the same analogy.
Speaker 4: Sure, I think a lot of times these things, like
Speaker 4: you said, you set them aside, you come back to them,
Speaker 4: because a lot of this is hard to digest, you know,
Speaker 4: the more I hear it. It feels like this whole
Speaker 4: phenomenon is much more complex than I think we originally
Speaker 4: thought it was. It feels like there's so many different
Speaker 4: layers and elements to it. When we come back, we're
Speaker 4: going to talk to Craig about his award winning documentary,
Speaker 4: the famous Valiant Thor Visiting Earth. You're listening to Beyond
Speaker 4: Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Speaker 4: podcast network. We are back Craig Campobaso on Beyond Contact. Craig,
Speaker 4: let's talk about this famous story of Valiant Thor. It's
Speaker 4: a very interesting story. It happened back in nineteen fifty
Speaker 4: seven when a spacecraft landed in Virginia. A normal look
Speaker 4: and human guy came out of it, and he spoke
Speaker 4: English and everything, but he said he was from Venus.
Speaker 5: Right, So there were beings, human extraterrestrial beings that aim
Speaker 5: before Valiant Thor to tell him that a universal emissary
Speaker 5: would be coming to visit and to prepare the president. Now,
Speaker 5: I don't know if that happened during Truman or if
Speaker 5: it was at the beginning of Eisenhower, but Valiant Thor
Speaker 5: was already waiting to start his mission here on the
Speaker 5: interior of Venus. Ultimately, he's from somewhere else. That's where
Speaker 5: he came from, is the interior of Venus. So that's
Speaker 5: where he was. And then he was finally given the
Speaker 5: commission to come. They knew he was coming. He landed
Speaker 5: on a Saturday morning in Alexander of Virginia, in an
Speaker 5: agricultural field, so there wouldn't be a lot of people around.
Speaker 5: Two police officers came up escorted him to the Pentagon,
Speaker 5: and that's where he met with the Secretary of Defense
Speaker 5: and the Under Secretary of Defense. They immediately put him
Speaker 5: on the underground train and then brought him into Eisenhower.
Speaker 5: Everyone was in there except for Nixon, who came late
Speaker 5: because it was Pat's birthday. He came with what we
Speaker 5: call a divine design to eliminate sickness, disease, poverty, how
Speaker 5: to prolong your life, but also to talk to Eisenhower
Speaker 5: about atomics, free energy, all kinds of things to help
Speaker 5: our planet get back on track. It was said he
Speaker 5: would therefore become the guests of the US government for
Speaker 5: three years. They put together a Pentagon apartment for him.
Speaker 5: I believe it was three floors down he wore blue
Speaker 5: suits and white shirts and white ties, only white ties anyway.
Speaker 5: So during this time he met, he would meet with
Speaker 5: the President go over the proposal. He would meet also
Speaker 5: with Nixon. Nixon became a little closer to him because
Speaker 5: Eisenhower was always very busy, too.
Speaker 4: Busy to talk to a being from another.
Speaker 5: Part less you know. Well, I'm explaining the way doctor
Speaker 5: Frank explained it.
Speaker 4: And Frank the only guy that has this claim, or
Speaker 4: does somebody else claim to have known Valiant Thorpe.
Speaker 5: There was another gentleman in Van Eyes who now lives
Speaker 5: on the ship. He's over one hundred. His name was
Speaker 5: doctor Lee. And there was another guy in Switzerland, but
Speaker 5: I don't know whatever happened to him. There are other people,
Speaker 5: and I have met a few people who met him,
Speaker 5: and one lady with him and doctor Frank in the
Speaker 5: sixties and another lady twice in one week where he
Speaker 5: came to visit a visit their little group and talk
Speaker 5: to them. There's a guy that took a photo of them,
Speaker 5: right right, So that happened in nineteen fifty eight. Howard
Speaker 5: Mender was a major contacte back then, and so he
Speaker 5: would have UFO talks in his backyard. Jim Moseley was
Speaker 5: at this one who was a big part of all
Speaker 5: of this. I talked to Jim, but he didn't remember
Speaker 5: seeing Valiant Thor anything. He was a very young guy.
Speaker 5: He since passed. But August Roberts, Now this is all
Speaker 5: in Highbridge, New Jersey. At the time, Doctor Frank lived
Speaker 5: in New Jersey. The retired Air Force photographer August Robert
Speaker 5: lived in New Jersey. And when he saw Valiant Thor
Speaker 5: vice commander down and Jill, who's the wife of another
Speaker 5: vice commander named Zan, he took over two hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty photos because he knew that Menser was in contact
Speaker 5: with ets.
Speaker 4: He didn't he.
Speaker 5: Thor. Yeah, and we only have something like fifteen that remains.
Speaker 4: There's like a group of yeah, right, there's one with
Speaker 4: four of the crew.
Speaker 5: Well there's there's that will be they're they're at the
Speaker 5: Mener farm. That that's it. But that we don't know
Speaker 5: what happened to all of his pictures.
Speaker 4: That makes this story tougher. That we've we've lost the photos.
Speaker 4: We think other people would have interacted with Valiant Thor.
Speaker 4: You think there'd be more people that have come forward
Speaker 4: with this.
Speaker 5: Right, I had a Secret serviceman contacted me once when
Speaker 5: the movie first came out. You know, he said, look,
Speaker 5: I'm in the Secret Service. I was there at that time,
Speaker 5: and I'm just going to tell you the story is true.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he just told me. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know, George Fyler, Major George Fyler was at
Speaker 5: the Pentagon at that time, and George heard all about
Speaker 5: valiant Thorpe being there, and when they'd be walking the
Speaker 5: halls with somebody else, he would say that that's where
Speaker 5: he is. He's in there.
Speaker 4: Didn't they form NASA like months after valiant Thorp came?
Speaker 5: They did? They did? Yeah, well it was being formed
Speaker 5: and he was there to help guide them. Now, some
Speaker 5: people would say, oh my god, that's horrible. No, you
Speaker 5: have to look at it from the standpoint that he
Speaker 5: is categorized as what I would call a doctor Frank
Speaker 5: called a seraphim. He's a creative being without a belly button.
Speaker 4: Sounds like an AI kind of a thing. Almost.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, well I don't know about that.
Speaker 4: I mean, is he is he?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 4: He is he biologic?
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, he's biological. Creative beings are biological, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because I actually asked that question. I did, Yeah, I did,
Speaker 5: and it definitely got answered yes. So he was there
Speaker 5: for three years. They had to turn it down. Nixon
Speaker 5: and Eisenhower were for it, by the way, it was
Speaker 5: all the other powers that be that turned it down,
Speaker 5: saying that it would put doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies, electric
Speaker 5: companies out of business, and it would totally crash the economy.
Speaker 5: So could you imagine if they had started to implement
Speaker 5: it back then where the world would be today exactly.
Speaker 4: So that's another thing that's hard to believe that they
Speaker 4: would say, well, no, we don't want to do that.
Speaker 4: R right, correct, And you think vallian Thor would be
Speaker 4: able to somehow still get his message out. Now? Is
Speaker 4: he still on Earth supposedly or whatever happened?
Speaker 5: He is?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He returned a year later on March sixteenth, nineteen sixty one,
Speaker 5: rekindled his friendship with doctor Frank. His craft was originally
Speaker 5: stationed in Henderson, Nevada. When they started building all the
Speaker 5: homes there, he moved it out to Lake Mead. So
Speaker 5: they're like blinked into the fourth dimension, but they can
Speaker 5: see into this dimension. They do, Doctor Frank said, They
Speaker 5: do go out, does anyone else.
Speaker 4: Have contact with thor anymore?
Speaker 5: Or I don't know of anyone who's having physical contact
Speaker 5: with him. When I was writing the screenplay and things,
Speaker 5: my contact it was telepath thick, and he would only
Speaker 5: come around when things were at the end and needed
Speaker 5: to be done and taken care of, Like the short
Speaker 5: film had a lot of things going on, and it
Speaker 5: didn't look like it was going to get to this
Speaker 5: one festival. And I heard him when he came in,
Speaker 5: and by the way, when he comes in, your whole
Speaker 5: body just rings with chills for fifteen minutes, that's how
Speaker 5: high his energy is. And he was with me for
Speaker 5: those three days, and everything went boom boom boom, and
Speaker 5: everything just solidified and all of that.
Speaker 4: Well, what about the idea of making this a feature film?
Speaker 4: You and I have been talking about that for ten years.
Speaker 5: I think, yes, Well, I'm I have everything ready, I
Speaker 5: have the script ready, I have you know, I know
Speaker 5: all the actors I want, I know a lot of
Speaker 5: the people you know for costumes and all of that.
Speaker 5: I've just been trying to raise the money. But I
Speaker 5: need a lot of money. I mean, I can make
Speaker 5: it for fifteen million, twenty twenty five, thirty, thirty five,
Speaker 5: or fifty. It would just depend on the caliber of
Speaker 5: actors and the visual effects, because half of it will
Speaker 5: take place up there on their craft and the other
Speaker 5: half here in nineteen fifties Washington, DC.
Speaker 4: Well listen to Craig. True or not, or parts of
Speaker 4: it may be true. Either way, it's an incredible story.
Speaker 4: It's a fun story. It makes a great script that
Speaker 4: this guy came here, you know. And even that name
Speaker 4: is great. Valiant Thorpe sounds superhero from a comic book
Speaker 4: or something, and it's kind of a folklore. I think
Speaker 4: we've all kind of heard of it. Even if you
Speaker 4: don't know that story, well you've heard of Valiant thor
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean. So good luck with that. Craig,
Speaker 4: thanks for coming on the show. I really appreciate it,
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