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Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today

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Speaker 4: we're going to be speaking with Craig Campobasso. Craig is

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Speaker 4: an entertainment industry professional. He's a multiple award winning filmmaker,

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Speaker 4: an Emmy nominated casting director, and also a writer. He's

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Speaker 4: a UFO enthusiast experiencer and researcher. Among his books are

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Speaker 4: two that he's done for MUFAN. The first one was

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Speaker 4: The Extraterrestrial Species Almanac, The Ultimate Guide to Gray's Reptilians,

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Speaker 4: Hybrids and Nordics, which he has even made into a

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Speaker 4: full length documentary somehow. And the second one is The

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Speaker 4: UFO Hotspot Compendium, which is a UFO hunter's bucket list

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Speaker 4: of legendary and active UFO and alien hotspots in North America.

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Speaker 4: Among his many other film projects, Craig wrote, directed, and

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Speaker 4: produced the award winning short film Stranger at the Pentagon

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Speaker 4: I Love That, which was adopted from the popular UFO

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Speaker 4: book of the same name by doctor Frank Strangers. Today,

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Speaker 4: we're going to dive into all those with Craig.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, brother, I'm doing great. How are you, Captain?

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Speaker 4: Good? Good to see you again, my friend, you too.

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Speaker 4: So let's start off briefly about this documentary that you

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Speaker 4: recently did. I think it's the Extraterrestrial Species Almanac, which

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Speaker 4: I believe you debuted at the Contact in the Desert

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four thing, which was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've never heard of somebody turning an almanac

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Speaker 4: heard of that. How'd you pull that off? Well?

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Speaker 5: I never had planned on doing it, but when the

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Speaker 5: press release went out through the publishers to you know,

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Speaker 5: to all of the press outlets, I started getting emails

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Speaker 5: And that was before I even had like pinned to work, right,

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Speaker 5: And so I thought.

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Speaker 4: You wrote the book.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, before I even wrote the book, you know, when

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Speaker 5: they sent out the initial press release. Yeah, so I thought, Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna get a little ahead of myself here,

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Speaker 5: It's still it still is. It fluctuates between going into

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Speaker 5: So that's pretty good for the amount of books that

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Speaker 5: Anyway, I thought, you know, it would be great. Is

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Speaker 4: Through the years, we've had so many different claims about

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Speaker 5: So just what you said about Paul Hellier. I was

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Speaker 5: But I just want to give you this little statistic.

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Speaker 5: The Alpha Centaurians say that they know of one million,

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Speaker 4: This went from two to ten eighty two. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the criteria for you? I mean, they're saying that huge number.

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Speaker 5: It would just depend on the actual contact e So

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Speaker 5: People exactly exactly, and most of them were multiples, multiples

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Speaker 4: Over the years, we've had these different ideas, Craig, of

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Speaker 4: Even what do you think these beings in your book are?

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Speaker 5: They're they're a little of both, some today and some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Craig, I know you've had your own experiences. Is

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Speaker 4: that where you get your ideas from from your own experiences?

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Speaker 4: Or do other individuals that you know have they influenced

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Speaker 5: Well, my story began when I was twenty six and

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Speaker 5: I never I never thought about I wasn't even into

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Speaker 5: valiant Thorpe put put it to doctor Frank. He said,

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Speaker 5: we're all clouds becoming gods. That's what we are, because

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Speaker 5: we're all we're all striving and quickening our duality and

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Speaker 5: then we ascend and then then where you know, then

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Speaker 5: we're part of of their world, their their universe.

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Speaker 4: Right, we ascend up to their level.

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Speaker 5: Is that that's right? Exactly?

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's take a break there, Craig. When we come back,

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Speaker 4: move on book, the UFO Hotspot Compendium, and we'll see

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Speaker 4: Captain Ron. We're talking with Craig Campobasso. Craig, let's talk

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Speaker 4: about this UFO Compendium book. It feels like it's sort

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Speaker 5: come and explore other worlds. So it has been said

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00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 5: through a lot of these contactees like Pleadians, Syrians Andromedins,

434
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: et cetera, clarions that they came and that they lived

435
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: on Earth, and that their DNA is on the planet

436
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: like our DNA is a part of all of their DNA. Right,

437
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 5: we're already hybrids. We just don't know it. I always say,

438
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: one day twenty three and meters is going to give

439
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: you your extra terrestrial origins, right.

440
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: They say that oftentimes that possibly, you know, we were

441
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: created by some of these that are doing you know,

442
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: the missing link or whatever. So it's an interesting thought.

443
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 4: I don't think you and I have really ever talked

444
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: about this. What do you feel about disclosure? Because I

445
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: know they're having more congressional hearings coming up here in November.

446
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?

447
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 5: Well, I know and I have championed Steve Bassett. I

448
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: mean that man works tirelessly towards it. I haven't followed

449
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 5: up on it as much as I should have. But

450
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 5: I also feel through everything that experiencers, abductees and myself

451
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: and other people who are sharing information is also a

452
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 5: part of disclosure because there's so many more people who

453
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 5: are now open to just listening to it. I mean,

454
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: I always say, you know, I don't believe everything I

455
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: hear either, but I also say to myself, well, isn't

456
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: that an interesting thought? And it helps you to expand

457
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: your thoughts in a direction that maybe you hadn't thought

458
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: of it. It's always interesting to just say, you know, look,

459
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: if it doesn't gel with you, now set it aside

460
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: and come back to it later, and you might understand it.

461
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 5: It's like reading a book. Like when I worked on

462
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: the original Dune, I couldn't even I couldn't even read

463
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 5: that book. I mean, you know, I was just out

464
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: of high school. I didn't understand. I could read it now,

465
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 5: you know, and totally understand it. And so it's kind

466
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 5: of the same analogy.

467
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Speaker 4: Sure, I think a lot of times these things, like

468
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Speaker 4: you said, you set them aside, you come back to them,

469
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: because a lot of this is hard to digest, you know,

470
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: the more I hear it. It feels like this whole

471
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: phenomenon is much more complex than I think we originally

472
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: thought it was. It feels like there's so many different

473
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: layers and elements to it. When we come back, we're

474
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: going to talk to Craig about his award winning documentary,

475
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: the famous Valiant Thor Visiting Earth. You're listening to Beyond

476
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Speaker 4: Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

477
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: podcast network. We are back Craig Campobaso on Beyond Contact. Craig,

478
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: let's talk about this famous story of Valiant Thor. It's

479
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: a very interesting story. It happened back in nineteen fifty

480
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: seven when a spacecraft landed in Virginia. A normal look

481
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: and human guy came out of it, and he spoke

482
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: English and everything, but he said he was from Venus.

483
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 5: Right, So there were beings, human extraterrestrial beings that aim

484
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: before Valiant Thor to tell him that a universal emissary

485
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 5: would be coming to visit and to prepare the president. Now,

486
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if that happened during Truman or if

487
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: it was at the beginning of Eisenhower, but Valiant Thor

488
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 5: was already waiting to start his mission here on the

489
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 5: interior of Venus. Ultimately, he's from somewhere else. That's where

490
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: he came from, is the interior of Venus. So that's

491
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: where he was. And then he was finally given the

492
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: commission to come. They knew he was coming. He landed

493
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: on a Saturday morning in Alexander of Virginia, in an

494
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 5: agricultural field, so there wouldn't be a lot of people around.

495
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: Two police officers came up escorted him to the Pentagon,

496
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: and that's where he met with the Secretary of Defense

497
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: and the Under Secretary of Defense. They immediately put him

498
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: on the underground train and then brought him into Eisenhower.

499
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: Everyone was in there except for Nixon, who came late

500
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: because it was Pat's birthday. He came with what we

501
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: call a divine design to eliminate sickness, disease, poverty, how

502
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: to prolong your life, but also to talk to Eisenhower

503
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: about atomics, free energy, all kinds of things to help

504
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: our planet get back on track. It was said he

505
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: would therefore become the guests of the US government for

506
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: three years. They put together a Pentagon apartment for him.

507
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: I believe it was three floors down he wore blue

508
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 5: suits and white shirts and white ties, only white ties anyway.

509
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: So during this time he met, he would meet with

510
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: the President go over the proposal. He would meet also

511
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: with Nixon. Nixon became a little closer to him because

512
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: Eisenhower was always very busy, too.

513
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: Busy to talk to a being from another.

514
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 5: Part less you know. Well, I'm explaining the way doctor

515
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 5: Frank explained it.

516
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: And Frank the only guy that has this claim, or

517
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: does somebody else claim to have known Valiant Thorpe.

518
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: There was another gentleman in Van Eyes who now lives

519
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: on the ship. He's over one hundred. His name was

520
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: doctor Lee. And there was another guy in Switzerland, but

521
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 5: I don't know whatever happened to him. There are other people,

522
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: and I have met a few people who met him,

523
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: and one lady with him and doctor Frank in the

524
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: sixties and another lady twice in one week where he

525
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 5: came to visit a visit their little group and talk

526
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: to them. There's a guy that took a photo of them,

527
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: right right, So that happened in nineteen fifty eight. Howard

528
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: Mender was a major contacte back then, and so he

529
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: would have UFO talks in his backyard. Jim Moseley was

530
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 5: at this one who was a big part of all

531
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: of this. I talked to Jim, but he didn't remember

532
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: seeing Valiant Thor anything. He was a very young guy.

533
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: He since passed. But August Roberts, Now this is all

534
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 5: in Highbridge, New Jersey. At the time, Doctor Frank lived

535
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 5: in New Jersey. The retired Air Force photographer August Robert

536
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: lived in New Jersey. And when he saw Valiant Thor

537
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: vice commander down and Jill, who's the wife of another

538
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: vice commander named Zan, he took over two hundred and

539
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: fifty photos because he knew that Menser was in contact

540
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 5: with ets.

541
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Speaker 4: He didn't he.

542
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: Thor. Yeah, and we only have something like fifteen that remains.

543
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: There's like a group of yeah, right, there's one with

544
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: four of the crew.

545
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 5: Well there's there's that will be they're they're at the

546
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: Mener farm. That that's it. But that we don't know

547
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: what happened to all of his pictures.

548
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: That makes this story tougher. That we've we've lost the photos.

549
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: We think other people would have interacted with Valiant Thor.

550
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: You think there'd be more people that have come forward

551
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: with this.

552
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: Right, I had a Secret serviceman contacted me once when

553
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: the movie first came out. You know, he said, look,

554
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: I'm in the Secret Service. I was there at that time,

555
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: and I'm just going to tell you the story is true.

556
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 5: But yeah, he just told me. But I mean, yeah,

557
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 5: and you know, George Fyler, Major George Fyler was at

558
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: the Pentagon at that time, and George heard all about

559
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: valiant Thorpe being there, and when they'd be walking the

560
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 5: halls with somebody else, he would say that that's where

561
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 5: he is. He's in there.

562
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: Didn't they form NASA like months after valiant Thorp came?

563
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 5: They did? They did? Yeah, well it was being formed

564
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 5: and he was there to help guide them. Now, some

565
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 5: people would say, oh my god, that's horrible. No, you

566
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 5: have to look at it from the standpoint that he

567
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: is categorized as what I would call a doctor Frank

568
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: called a seraphim. He's a creative being without a belly button.

569
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: Sounds like an AI kind of a thing. Almost.

570
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, well I don't know about that.

571
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: I mean, is he is he?

572
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 5: Is?

573
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: He is he biologic?

574
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, he's biological. Creative beings are biological, Okay, Yeah,

575
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: because I actually asked that question. I did, Yeah, I did,

576
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 5: and it definitely got answered yes. So he was there

577
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 5: for three years. They had to turn it down. Nixon

578
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: and Eisenhower were for it, by the way, it was

579
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: all the other powers that be that turned it down,

580
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: saying that it would put doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies, electric

581
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 5: companies out of business, and it would totally crash the economy.

582
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 5: So could you imagine if they had started to implement

583
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 5: it back then where the world would be today exactly.

584
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: So that's another thing that's hard to believe that they

585
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: would say, well, no, we don't want to do that.

586
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: R right, correct, And you think vallian Thor would be

587
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: able to somehow still get his message out. Now? Is

588
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: he still on Earth supposedly or whatever happened?

589
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: He is?

590
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

591
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: He returned a year later on March sixteenth, nineteen sixty one,

592
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: rekindled his friendship with doctor Frank. His craft was originally

593
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: stationed in Henderson, Nevada. When they started building all the

594
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: homes there, he moved it out to Lake Mead. So

595
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: they're like blinked into the fourth dimension, but they can

596
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: see into this dimension. They do, Doctor Frank said, They

597
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 5: do go out, does anyone else.

598
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 4: Have contact with thor anymore?

599
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: Or I don't know of anyone who's having physical contact

600
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: with him. When I was writing the screenplay and things,

601
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 5: my contact it was telepath thick, and he would only

602
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: come around when things were at the end and needed

603
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: to be done and taken care of, Like the short

604
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 5: film had a lot of things going on, and it

605
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: didn't look like it was going to get to this

606
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: one festival. And I heard him when he came in,

607
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: and by the way, when he comes in, your whole

608
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 5: body just rings with chills for fifteen minutes, that's how

609
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: high his energy is. And he was with me for

610
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: those three days, and everything went boom boom boom, and

611
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: everything just solidified and all of that.

612
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: Well, what about the idea of making this a feature film?

613
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 4: You and I have been talking about that for ten years.

614
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: I think, yes, Well, I'm I have everything ready, I

615
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: have the script ready, I have you know, I know

616
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 5: all the actors I want, I know a lot of

617
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: the people you know for costumes and all of that.

618
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 5: I've just been trying to raise the money. But I

619
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: need a lot of money. I mean, I can make

620
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 5: it for fifteen million, twenty twenty five, thirty, thirty five,

621
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: or fifty. It would just depend on the caliber of

622
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 5: actors and the visual effects, because half of it will

623
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: take place up there on their craft and the other

624
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: half here in nineteen fifties Washington, DC.

625
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: Well listen to Craig. True or not, or parts of

626
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 4: it may be true. Either way, it's an incredible story.

627
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: It's a fun story. It makes a great script that

628
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: this guy came here, you know. And even that name

629
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: is great. Valiant Thorpe sounds superhero from a comic book

630
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: or something, and it's kind of a folklore. I think

631
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: we've all kind of heard of it. Even if you

632
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: don't know that story, well you've heard of Valiant thor

633
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean. So good luck with that. Craig,

634
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Speaker 4: thanks for coming on the show. I really appreciate it,

635
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Speaker 4: and thank you guys all for listening to be on contact.

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