WEBVTT - Ernest Shackleton & Walt Whitman 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.480 Ivy. It's cold in here. I can see my breath. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.640 Did we leave the A CNN in the studio again? Elliott, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.600 don't touch that thermostat. I'm getting into the mindset of 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.920 one of our famous figures from today, the British Antarctic 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.360 explorer Ernest Shackleton. Here, I brought you an extra fur coat. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.759 Thank you, Hey, b which animal has neon pink fur? Oh? Please? 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.720 It's it vegan? For what makes it vegan? For it's 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.520 made entirely out of celery, corn and almonds, and it's 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.640 electric pink. And my coat is electric blue because, like 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.479 our other famous figure, pioneering American poet Walt Whitman, I 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.960 wanted to sing the body electric. That's a famous line 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.919 from one of his poems. Yes, two great figures from 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:52.080 history who are inspired by nature in totally different ways. Raspberries. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.280 I seem to be allergic to this electric vegan for 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.720 so now that I can't wear the fur, can we 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.840 please turn the A C off? Oh, don't worry. I 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.160 have a backup plan that will keep you warm and 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.920 make you feel electric. Here. Just grab this for okay, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.679 and let's head over to this light socket over here. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.520 Oh no, I know where this is going. Eric, please 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:18.440 play the theme song. Here go. What do you think 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:23.320 you know about the rates from this story? The game 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.640 is on. To get some energy and buckle up your 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:31.720 brain because it's time to play the worst podcast. Because 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:37.000 it's time to play book Who Live from Tonga Land 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.720 or so called So Cow Los Angeles? Welcome to Who Was? 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.600 The history quish show that gives contestants the chance to 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.920 win mega prizes and podcast glory. I'm your announcer, b 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.360 and I promise I'm not gonna drone on for too long. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.560 And here's your host, the man Who's insurance has Insurance. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.160 It's Elliot Kalin. Thank you be you can never be 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.640 too careful. It's and welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast. 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.480 This show it's like Jeopardy, only the surprise guests, silly games, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.919 and hot towels for everyone. Book Our contestants were sent 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.080 Who Was books about two great figures from history. Now 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.120 they're here to show off their knowledge in the hope 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:22.520 subwating fantastic prizes. Today we're learning about the Antarctic explorer 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.960 Ernest Shackleton and the poet Walt Whitman. Too pioneering spirits 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.040 who drew inspiration from the natural world in very different ways. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:36.280 But before we meet them, let's meet our contestants. First up, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:41.040 we've got Ava, Ava, Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name's Ava. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.400 I'm ten years old in a mesqui jumper. You're a 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.880 ski jumper. Oh my goodness. Now, how do you train 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.240 for that? When there's not snow on the ground. You 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.560 can actually ski jump in the summer. You ski jump 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.359 up on fast state grass. Okay, so it's just some 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.679 thangular chump. I'll say any kind of ski jumping is difficult. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.040 I tried it once. I strapped skis to my feet 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.200 and I tried jumping, and it's very hard. My skis 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.840 kept getting tangled and I kept falling over and it 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.839 was just difficult. It's hard enough to do a regular jump, 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.400 let al m to jump of skis on your feet. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.800 So I'm very used. Yeah. Yeah, And Elliott, you were 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.320 on a trampoline with your skis right because you wanted 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.160 to get an even more air yeah for a maximum 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.760 jump itch. Yeah. Yeah, it made it very difficult. A 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.040 lot a lot of luck up, broken skis, bones. Kids, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.079 don't try it. Don't try Leave the ski jumping to 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.320 the professionals. That's right. Well, thank you so much, Ava, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.480 and with us today we also have Lily. Lily, please 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.400 introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Lily, and UM, me 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.840 and my family foster kittens. You foster kittens. That's so amazing. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.600 Are you currently fostering kittens right now? Um? We actually 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.240 just gave them back a couple of days ago. Okay, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.240 what were the kittens names? And um, every time that 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.640 you get new foster kittens, do you get to name them? No, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.600 they already come with names. They're normally named with sets 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.600 of things like bugs or um flowers or condiments or 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.720 something like these kittens named after condiments like a kitten 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.720 name mustard, and a kitten named salt and ketchup, and 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.479 a kitten named a huge handful of butter just a 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.640 handful of bud. Don't judge me. That's a that can 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.960 be a condiment. I like that all right. Well, thank 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.080 you both so much for being here today. Thank you 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.520 so much for joining us, and thank you to Eric, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.680 our musician, providing that lovely meet the contestants music. So 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.479 that's who is now let's find out who was. Walt 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:41.200 Whitman with four fast facts. Walt Whitman was born in 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.279 eighteen nineteen and died in eighteen ninety two and lived 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.479 mostly in Brooklyn, New York. Wal Whitman was an important 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.040 poet who was one of the early adopters of free verse. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.000 Walt Whitman has been celebrated as an l G B. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.239 T q I A plus icon based on the themes 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.640 and subjects in his writing. He helped an estimated eighty 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.280 thou and wounded Union soldiers during the Civil War by 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.800 visiting them and bringing them small gifts or helping them 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:12.200 write letters to their families. Now today is very special 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.719 because not only did Lilian Ever read the who was 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.760 Walt witt In book, we also asked them to read 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.560 a poem of all woman's and give us their thoughts 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.159 about it. The poem is entitled I dreamed in a dream, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.280 and our contestants are going to read it for us 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:32.320 right now. I dreamed in a dream. I saw a 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.920 city invincefult the attacks of the whole of the rest 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.640 of the earth. I dreamed that was the new city 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.919 of Friends. Nothing was greater there than the quality of 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.240 robust love. It was seen every hour in the actions 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.120 of the men of that city, and in all their 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:54.919 looks and words. It's funny because poems are made of words, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.400 but it can be hard to put their meaning into 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.520 words sometimes. And does this feel like to you? Is 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.680 it wish? Is it a prophecy? Is it a fantasy? 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.279 Is it? Is it a curse? A curse? Is something 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.680 he's seen or fears or yearns for. What do you think? 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.080 What do you what do you get from this film? 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:14.560 In that way? He liked range. I guess that's true. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.559 He does say I dreamed in a dream in the beginning. Okay, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.680 good point, good point you picked up on. We would 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.600 call that the internal evidence of the poem. Do you 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.680 think this was a good dream or a nightmare? This 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.360 dream of a city of friends where love was felt everywhere? 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.920 Good one? Yeah, yeah, probably a good dream, Probably a 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.760 good dream. He doesn't say anything in it about like 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.920 a monster coming in or he looks down and he's 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.599 just in his underpants. That that would make it more 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.120 of a nademare That would definitely made more of a nightmare. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.160 So now, Lily, I heard that you were going to 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.920 change them a couple of word or a word in here, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.600 and instead of saying it was seen every hour in 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.279 the actions of the men of that city, and you 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.640 had some different thoughts about that, right, you thought I 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.840 should read it a little bit differently. Um, My thought 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.800 instead of men, it should be people. So it feels 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.680 like to me when I heard that you had thought 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.120 about that, I was like, oh the least totally right 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.160 about this because in this poem, I think when Walt 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.359 Woman says men of that city, I think he's using 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:16.760 like the royal men as if to refer to everyone, right, men, women, children, uh, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:21.360 everyone who lived in the city, foster kittens, foster kittens. Well, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.840 thank you both so much for taking the time to 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.160 read that poemb and to put some good thought into it, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.920 and um for sharing your amazing talents with the Who 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.360 Was Podcast and being our poetry readers. We really appreciate it. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.080 Let's get to it. It's our first game. It's called 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:43.440 true or false false false false? Or is a true? 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.360 It is a true that it was false it was true? 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.760 Or true true poor false. There's no poetic metaphor here. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.040 It's exactly what it sounds like for this game. Be 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.800 will read a statement. If you will, then let us 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.520 know if that statement is true or suspense suspense suspense? 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.960 What could it be faulse false? That's right, Ava, you 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.240 were up first, take it away. Being Walt was the 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.840 valedictorian of his class and gave a graduation speech at 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:14.560 his high school that was not surprisingly. I think that's false. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.000 You're exactly right. That is false. Walt's family struggled to 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.160 make ends meet, so we dropped up school at age 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.400 eleven and started apprenticing for a group of lawyers. One 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.360 lawyer got him a library card, where Walt discovered novels 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.720 and poetry. Whalt read as much as he could, and 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.440 he felt this was the most important thing that had 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.360 ever happened to him. While we hear it, who was 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.520 do not condone dropping out of school at eleven. Stay 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.480 in school, kids. We do encourage getting a library card. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.480 It's free books, people, There's nothing better than that. Okay, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.679 the next question is for it lily true or false. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.200 Walt's first job, running a newspaper, showed up all of 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.920 his talents, from writing to editing and printing to horseback writing. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:57.760 While he made newspaper delivery. I think that's true. You're right, 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.160 that's true. His work as a printing a print us 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.200 learning the way newspapers used to be made on a 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.920 printing press. Taught the young poet as much about writing 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.679 as it did printing. Unfortunately, the first paper he was 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.600 in charge of, The Long Islander, was appropriately named. People 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.520 waited a long time between publications because Walt just put 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.280 out issues whenever he felt like. It wasn't a daily, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.160 it wasn't a weekly. It was a win. Ever, Lee, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.800 the owners of the paper fired him. But pretty impressive. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.600 He was able to learn so much about good rating 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.280 by just being around a printing press. Okay eva, This 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:30.520 next question is for you true or false. Walt Whitman 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.559 called his style of writing free verse because he felt 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.160 weird about charging people to buy his books, and he 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:42.319 just gave them away. Uh. I think you're right. That's false. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.800 They do have a place that books are given away, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.439 that's a library, but that's not what this was about. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.120 As a library. Go to your library. It's great. It 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.120 was called free verse because it was free of a 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.240 traditional structure. Free verse has no rhyme, scheme, no word count. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.199 Each poem just exists its own thing. Man leading thinker 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.480 of the time, Ralph Waldo Emerson, had put out the 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.080 challenge for someone to create a new American style of 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.360 poetry that wasn't just a copy of what the European 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.000 poets were doing, and Walt Whitman was the first American 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.800 poet to do this. It was pretty radical for the time. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.880 And speaking of a radical, Lily, this laxt question is 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.280 for you and your radical Walt didn't limit himself to 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.720 writing poetry. He also wrote a novel, newspaper articles, and 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.400 he wrote positive reviews of his own book when everyone 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.400 else was writing bad reviews of it. Is that true 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.760 or fault true? That's right, it's true. Most people know 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.240 Walt wrote newspaper articles in the novel that they may 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.360 be shocked to learn that he anonymously wrote good reviews 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.240 of his first book of poetry. But even those positive 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.800 reviews and the praise of Ralph Waldo Emerson didn't really 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.280 help the book sell many copies. Walt believed in his 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.720 own work, though, and kept writing, and today is still 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.040 considered one of America's greatest poets. So I guess all 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.760 those positive book reviews he wrote well deceitful and we 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.360 would never recommend you doing it were correct, and he 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.600 was right to do. And that's the end of the game. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:07.040 True true, true, true, powful and now let's hear some 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.760 of the most beautiful stands of poetry. To my ears 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.120 producer Jane telling us the scores. Billy, it didn't be. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.600 I've got to tell you that what we have here 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.240 is a tie two point each. Thank you, Jane. I'll 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.920 keep us saying. There's lots more game and your presence 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.600 we hope to retain after this short reframe. Well, well, well, Elliott, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.840 Walt Whitman's work was all about not rhyming. What are 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.240 you doing. I'm getting into this freethinking spirit and breaking 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.600 the mold by bringing the molds back, and now I'm 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.599 thinking about molds. Gross, Eric, play us out with some 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:53.080 Brooklyn music. Please, I'm walking here. Welcome back to the 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.560 Who Was Podcast. When we last left off, Eva had 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.920 two points and Lily had two points. And now fact 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.520 to your host, Elliot Galin thank you be. In the 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.840 last round, we learned all about Walt Whitman, and so 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.560 now we must venture forth and learn about our other 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.720 famous figure. For today, Sir Ernest Shackleton with four fast 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:19.920 facts Prospects. Sir Ernest Shackleton was born in eighteen seventy 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.600 four and died in nineteen twenty two, Ernest Shackleton led 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.120 three British expeditions to the Antarctic. He was knighted by 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.400 King Edward the Seventh for the farthest Antarctic exploration and 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.600 for climbing Mount Erebus, an active and Arctic volcano. One 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.959 of his ships, the Endurance, was trapped by pack ice 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.959 in nineteen fourteen, and its remains weren't discovered until two 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.640 that's one hundred and eight years later. Look it up. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:53.000 It's awesome prospects, Lily, Ava, If you could explore anywhere, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:57.600 where would you explore? Because Shackleton was very focused on 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.080 the Antarctic. He was all about ice. He was all 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.679 about that ice ice baby. So I'm wondering if you 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.520 had a chance and an opportunity to explore anywhere, where 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:12.240 would it be, Lily. I would go to England. You 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.960 go to England and explore England? Okay, yeah, what about 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.520 England really calls to you? Um? I love English accents, 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.840 So so each time you hear someone speaking in English accidents, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.800 like they're saying, come and explore in England's cool. I 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.040 love that? And Eva, what about you? I don't. I 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:35.040 don't know where I would explore I think that if 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.920 I were to explore anywhere, if I physically could, because 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.080 I'm so scared of this, I would explore the deepest 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:47.440 parts of the ocean because more people have been into 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.960 space than have gone so far into the ocean, and 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.480 I'm just I'm terrified as to what we might find 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.880 down there. It just feels like such an unknown. I 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.760 totally get that, because similarly, I would like to explore 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.240 in the back of my refrigerator, because it's like the 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.080 front stuff, the things in the front, they make it 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.920 hard to see what's in the back, and who knows 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.400 what's back there. I don't know even know if my 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.040 lifetime is gonna in my lifetime, if we're gonna end 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.840 up back there or not. There's just so much hidden there, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.960 and I don't know what. Every now and then I 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.920 hear something or smell something, and I'm like, what wonders, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.400 What untold things are yet to be discovered in the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.280 back of this refrigerator. Yeah, and I mean, now, for 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.480 the for the second time on this show, Elliott, I'm 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:32.240 thinking about mold. Oh no, mold, dude, gross. Well, thank 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.560 you for all that. I think. I hope everyone, I 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.840 hope uh Lily, you get to explore England. That eva 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.440 you find a place. Who want to explore? Be? Maybe 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:41.480 you want to go to the bottom of the sea. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.880 And I hope everyone's knighted for all of your explirations 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.640 except for you Be. I think the power would probably 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.320 go to your head. Absolutely. So let's move on to 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.040 our next game, which I hope has nothing in it 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:56.560 about mold. It's called Backpack from the Past from the 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.120 Best I'm a backpack into in some of Ernest Shacklin's 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.480 personal objects. B and I are going to describe those 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.840 objects for a contestants and the listeners at home. Contestants, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.120 you tell us what part of his life the object is. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.320 From listeners at home, you can also tell us what 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.080 we won't hear you. We recorded this already and you're 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.680 talking to your headphones. And because this is our second round, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.680 each question is worth two points. Lily, you're up first. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.840 Oh wow, it's a large wooden log. Why would this 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.120 be significant enough to include an Ernest Shackleton's backpack. Is 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.520 it a the log he used to stand on at 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.600 his farm and pretend he was on a ship, or 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.440 b it's his lucky log that he drew eyes on 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.600 and treated like a friend when he was stranded after 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:44.400 a shipwreck. Um A, yes, the answer is a Ernest. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.800 Shackleton was British but raised in Ireland. He came from 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.240 a big family, but knew even as a young boy 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.480 that he wanted to be out on the high seas, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.960 exploring and looking for adventure. He left school at the 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.480 age of sixteen to be an apprentice on a ship 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.360 and worked his way up through the Thanks alright, this 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:07.720 next item is for Eva. WHOA, it's a hot air balloon. Wow, 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.040 this is one big backpack. Why is this in our 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.920 backpack from the past? Is it because a Ernest took 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.920 some of the first aerial photographs of the Antarctic in 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.400 this hot air balloon? Or be he once tried to 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.680 reach the South Pole in a hot air balloon. I'm 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.240 pretty sure that's you are pretty sure and you're right. 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.840 The answer is a earnest. First trip to the Antarctic 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.920 was in nineteen hundred of the English naval officer Robert 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.040 Falcon Scott on the ship Discovery Good Name. It was 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.040 on this trip that Shackleton took some of the first 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.760 aerial photographs of Antarctica. Discovery didn't reach the South Pole, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.400 and Shackleton and Scott became bitter rivals, raising each other 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.280 to be the first to reach the South Pole. Twist, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.600 neither of them were the first. A Norwegian expedition led 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.520 by Roald Ammonson was the first to get there. Okay, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.240 the next object is for Lily. Let's see what's in 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.160 this backpack. It's a pair of free book be Are 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.600 you using the backpack from the past as your personal backpack? 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.320 We told you not to do that. Okay, No, those 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:11.080 definitely belonged to Ernest. They are not vegan for Okay, Lily, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.760 Are they there because a Ernest gave up exploring for 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.720 a few years and became a fashion designer? Or b 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.439 These boots are made from reindeer skin and Arctic explorers 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:26.280 used to keep warm. B That's right. The answer is be. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.240 These boots were made for walking in snow. Let joke 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.359 about a song. Well, today explorers have space age technology 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.080 to keep them warm. Explorers of Shackleton's time relied on 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.280 fur sealskin canvas, and woolf to keep them from freezing. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.359 They wore glass goggles in the icy wind and camped 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.919 in tense and small huts. Made of quirk and felt. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.120 I get cold just thinking about it. Okay, the last 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:53.040 question is for Ava. Oh my goodness, it's a hello, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:59.679 still away, rude. I have a name. It's Percy Blackborrow. Okay, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.600 can you tell us why this Percy Blackborough fellow would 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.679 be hiding in our backpack from the past? Is it 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.640 that A he was the stowaway on Shackleton's ship Endurance 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.240 or B. Tickets to a live taping of the Huah's 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.840 podcast are super hard to get. I think that's a. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.320 You're correct. The answer is A. I was a stowaway 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.000 on Shackleton's ship Endurance, and once I was discovered, I 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.560 took a job helping out the ship's cook. It was 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.440 an adventure of a lifetime. Were stuck on the ice 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.600 for ten months, but Shackleton kept us all in good spirits. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.719 I got to see penguins, seals, and the Southern Lights. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.520 I was stranded on Elephant Island and lost my foot 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.760 to frostbite. WHOA, you've lost your foot to frostbite. Ah, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.919 that's the price of adventure. That's enough out of you, Percy. 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.520 Now back in the backpack, Hey, is that a walrus 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:52.600 over there? A Walris Geraldine, do you have a plate today? Oh, 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.320 he's just distracting me so he can run away. Scotto, 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.560 I'm out of here. Oh great, Now there's a stowaway. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.119 Loosen the studio get I hate it when that happens, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:03.960 and I hate that. That was the end of the 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:13.600 game from the best. Now let's check with producer Jane 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.600 to see how our contestants are stilling away these points. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:22.480 B and Elliott. I'm not to blame, but Ava and 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:27.280 Lily's scores are the same. Yes, it's a poem, six 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:32.520 points each. Oh my goodness. Wow, Well that is fantastic, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:37.040 and what a great game between these two adventurous contestants. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:42.960 They are adventurous and I should know Ernest, Yes, indeed, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:48.400 and I came hea via the who was app Who 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:52.080 was that you want to read somewhere in the past. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.520 Thank goodness you're here. We have a of a stowaway problem, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.720 and we would love your You mean, Percy, Percy, you're rapscallion. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:11.240 Oh captain, my captain, good to see your lad. Hey, 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.400 did you know you just quoted a poem by our 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.240 other famous figure today, Walter Whitman. Yeah, of course he 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.560 knows that he may be a stowaway, but he's no philistine. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.600 And I've come here today with a task of a 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.560 somewhat poetic nature. I've got a new ship, and I 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.880 need a good name, Prick. My other ships had great names, 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:39.080 the Aurora, the Endurance, and of course Nimrod. Day, you're 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:44.919 laughing again, No, you laughed when I said nim rocks. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.200 There's just again you're laughing. No, sorry, it was something 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:57.240 from before, all right. Well as for the nim Rocks, 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.520 he still laughing at me. It means someone who is 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.560 a great hunter. Sorry, but that's not what that word 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.399 really means anymore. If you called someone that word today, 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.960 it would not be a compliment. I would take this 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:15.200 as a compliment if you called me a nimrods them 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.760 start all right, all right, that's enough, sir. Ernest Shackleton 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.720 traveled through time to come and meet you, and all 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.960 you can do is laugh at him, Elliott, I expected 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:32.280 this from you, But be how juvenile? Okay? Sorry, but 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.440 today nimrod means not smart, a dim wit, a goose, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:42.800 a buffoon, a chowder ahead, a fool. Okay, okay, I 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.240 think we get the picture. And why did you get 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.040 all those examples, are you carrying a dictionary around with 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.359 you or something? Sort of? We just googled other words 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:57.639 for nimrod. Wait what was that word you just said? Googled? Yes? Yes, 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.280 what does that word mean? Google? It's kind of hard 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:04.280 to explain, but it's when you put a bunch of 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.199 search terms into Yahoo dot com to find the answer 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:13.840 to your question. What a beautiful word? I love it? 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.199 And if you called someone a Google, that wouldn't be 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:24.120 an insult. Not exactly excellent. I can't wait for all 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.679 the adventures I'm about to have on the Google. That's funny. 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.000 That's what I say most mornings. Not a moment to 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.080 lose it. Thank you for helping me name my new ship? 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:42.679 And thanks again? Who was happily? Who? Well? That was interesting? 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.960 It shure was Percy. You're still here, yep? And while 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.320 I'm here, I may as well make myself useful and 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.680 don't go anywhere? Who was? As the is one more 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.800 game left to go, We'll be back after this short break. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.639 Eric play us some endurance music please see it's my 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.840 job to ask Eric to play music. Eric, can you 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:13.040 play some in germs music? Please? Okay? How long can 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:18.720 this bit go? Sally, who was there? Sim Marie Curie. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.000 You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes, or 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.160 perhaps from my episode of the Who Worst Podcast where 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.320 I played myself. I wanted to take a moment to 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.800 read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was Podcast. 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.720