1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Holl that for me. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Edith State is that woo woof? And them and Tye 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: welcome back the solid verbal boys and girls. My name 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: is ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always over there in 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: icy Chicago, Illinois, the one the only Southern California boy, 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein. How you deal with the weather the world? 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, over in your parts, sir, The world like around 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: me is great. This is a college football hot zone tie, 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: so no matter how cold it gets, you know, the 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: football staying steamy North Shor Chicago. I'm all right, I'm alright, ty, 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: I can't complain this. It's a big week of college football, 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: we hope, and I am excited to watch all sorts 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: of games stretched out over three days. Right, it's Thursday, Friday, 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Saturday this week. I mean it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday every week. 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: But in terms of like the Power five slate, that's 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: more spread out. And I'm always excited to talk to you. 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: And what is it sack your records Saturday? 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Is it? 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to scatter those records Saturday. I mean, it's 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: not confined to a Saturday between I mean we have 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: to come up with a new name for the Oregon 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Oregon State game. 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I guess. And then yeah, you got. 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Friday is Notre Dame North Carolina, right, Friday is also 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Iowa State Texas. Friday is also that Oregon Oregon state game. 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: We've got the Heroes game on Friday. Got the Big Game? 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: Is it called the big Game of the game. I 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: think it's the Big Game Stanford cal Big Game. 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all sorts of action on Saturday. So 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, scatter scatter those records across the power 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: five week Saturday. 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Spread yourself thin, No, I don't know. 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Let's decide as we go along here, welcome scattered and battered. 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: How about that because their food element Hi sattered, scattered 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: and stuffed scattered stuff not bad? 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: All right, we will come to a conclusion. I think 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: that's how my friend pledged Delta sake it and stuffed. 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: In sub way shape or form before the end of 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: the show. But if you're just finding us for the 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: first time, going out to our website soliverbal dot com. 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: When you're there, you can sign up for updates. We'll 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: notify you when we get new episodes posted. 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You can do so on Facebook, on Twitter, Instagram. 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: We've got a YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: the over me and I think that's pretty much it, Dan, 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got. 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: Can I make a request please? Because this is a 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: scattered and stuff scattered and battered. I like the rhyming 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: element scattered and battered is a little bit better. Scattered 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: and battered. Saturday, can you and I both bring seventeen 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: to twenty three percent more juice today? More zazz more juicy, 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: zaz more sazy juice. I can try, sure. Okay, come on, 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: just take that deep breath, visualize and attack. 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Let's do this. We have bracket new. 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: The Dabbo say something else about Florida State in the 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: last thirty four seconds. 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Man, you're obsessed with me? What is going on with this? 70 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened? So okay, hold me back. 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: What is going on with this stupid little like high 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: school feud that we got going on? Now? So if 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: you don't know by now, Clemson and Florida State was 74 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: called off at the last second, reportedly because of some 75 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen related issue. Now what that is? Who even 76 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: knows this? 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: That was a report of a traveling member of Clemson 78 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: on the flights. There were all sorts of different rumors 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: and innuendo, and then the presidents supposedly of Florida State 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: and Clemson decided together to call it off. It's all 81 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: over the place. 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: But Dabo Sweeney seems to have taken deep personal umbrage 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: to this, and so now the whole thing has has 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: been conflated and contorted, and there was an implication, or 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say implication. There was an accusation at one 86 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: point that Florida State was essentially just Duck and Clemson. 87 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of like fiery comments through 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: the media issued yesterday by Dabbo. 89 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: Where does this today as well? And today it has 90 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: spilled over into scattered and battered Saturday? 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here? I don't know. 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know that today's quote. I've been in 93 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: this league eighteen years, I've been the head coach for twelve. 94 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: They've had three head coaches in four years, right. 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Needling, needling, needling. 96 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: And there's something about how Clemson spent three hundred thousand 97 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: dollars that was like the cost of sending everybody down there, 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: all their operations to play in this road game, which 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: is not cheap, but it's college football in twenty twenty. 100 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: And Florida State if they were not to completely forgive 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: or to completely go without any of the game day revenue, 102 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: that it would cost them way more than that. So 103 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: doesn't fully make sense that they're doing it for just 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: fucking competitive reasons, because it's actually going to cost them 105 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: a ton of money if they're just ducking it. So 106 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Florida State's insisting it's something real and something that they 107 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: are using safety and precautions for, and Clemson's calling bs 108 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: but hasn't presented a case to why. 109 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: I think everybody's just on edge time the holidays. I 111 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: think everybody's just everybody just needs a breather. 112 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, We've gone this route many times 113 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: before with Dabbo. 114 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Mike Norvell says he's quote absolutely this was eleven am 115 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: yesterday until Monday. Norvell says he's absolutely helpful the Clemson 116 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: game will be played. He's also excited to see it 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: played in Tennessee. If contributions are needed to be made financially, 118 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: he says he'll sign up to make one. 119 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It's so weird. It's 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: so weird, and at the same time it is sort 121 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: of humorous given just the awkward state of affairs in 122 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: this year twenty twenty season. 123 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: Now, this is Dabbo probably restraining himself. Right, I'll be back, 124 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: I'll be back. This is okay cool. 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: What do you see where this goes? But I do 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: have my doubts that Florida State was just ducking Yeah. 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't fully understand what Dabbo being in the ACC 128 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: for eighteen years has to do with anything other. 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: Than he drives a Dodge Stratus Ti chest puffery. But 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: what happened, mid level manager. 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Whatever, whatever, any other news here jump out to you 132 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: outside this little pissing match we got going on. 133 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, there's cancelations. I don't know if we're going 134 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: to talk about that in the context of previews. 135 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: Is there anything to you news outside of that. 137 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: We've got our first playoff rankings set to be released. 138 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: We're recording this late in the day on Tuesday, and 139 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: because of timing, we're not going to have an opportunity 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: to discuss until we drop our Friday show. But you know, 141 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I think I referenced it on the recap show on Sunday. 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Real curious to see how they treat the group of 143 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: five teams. This isn't news, mind you. This is just 144 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: me and jacking my own opinion here in anticipation of 145 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the news. But BYU Cincinnati even Coastal Carolina to some extent, 146 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: though I think to a lesser degree. I'm curious to 147 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: see how the committee handles those group of five teams, 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: as am I. 149 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: And on a related note, did you have any thoughts 150 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: about the BYU Washington very brief dust up? 151 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did have that dust up too, didn't we. 152 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so there is concern now that because the Apple 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: Cup is off Washington Washington State, there is concern that 154 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: Washington may not be able to find a Pack twelve 155 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: opponent to replace in the way that UCLA and CAL 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: found each other. And now because I think it's Utah 157 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: has ASU this week, ASU is the team that's been 158 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: in a COVID predicament with contact tracing and positive cases, 159 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: and so that seems like it would be the and Sir, 160 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: if Washington with their own Apple Cup off, because Washington 161 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: State doesn't have the roster numbers to play, that Washington 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: and Utah might play. But if they can't play, then 163 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: Washington is left without an opponent. And BYU has a 164 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: bye week this week. And there was a social media 165 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: post that made reference to anyone, anytime, anywhere from BYU 166 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: in terms of who they would schedule and play, and 167 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: so Washington reached out, but Washington wouldn't guarantee, like they 168 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't lock it in, like they tried to put BYU 169 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: in as sort of not a placeholder but as a 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: pseudo backup plan in case they couldn't get a Pack 171 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: twelve game, and BYU wanted to lock it in. So 172 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: people were saying BYU was cowardly because they were refusing 173 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: to improve their playoff resume by scheduling an unranked Washington. 174 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Washington like thoroughly beat last year. So yes, it would 175 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: be a nice story for BYU to beat a team 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: that beat them last year. But they were like, BYU 177 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: is going to wait for the playoff rankings to come 178 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: out to figure out how they want it to proceed 179 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: with some of their open weeks, and it all feels 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: like we're having a very stupid conversation, like BYU doesn't 181 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: need to play a team, they don't want to play 182 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: the whole anytime anywhere, Like that's fine, but it's six 183 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: days notice and nobody's actually agreeing to definitely play you. 184 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: It's I'll probably play you, and you might show up 185 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: in Seattle and be like ah, actually, and Washington. I 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: feel for Washington because it's been a strange year and 187 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: they're not playing their rival and that sucks, like you 188 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: want to play your rival every year. Now you don't 189 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: get the Apple Cup, and it's just everybody is it's 190 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: another one of those like well we should all just 191 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 2: take a breath. People are just like calling each other cowards. 192 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the good stuff. Man. 193 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: What is actually on the line here? Like BYU just 194 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: needs to go undefeated and hope Cincinnati loses, and it 195 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: looks like they'll get into a New Year's six game 196 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: if those games happen, and Washington can win their conference 197 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: and themselves go to a huge bowl game if they 198 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: keep playing like they did against I guess Arizona. 199 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're like in look, if 200 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: they're looking for their equal in the world or to 201 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: just find a warm body for the weekend. Why don't 202 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: they just do like the rest of us and go 203 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: on Farmers only not a. 204 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: Spot Farmers Today's episode, it's brought to you. 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Why don't they just I don't get it. Anyway, We'll see, 206 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens here. But we have entered the 207 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: realm of weird, stupid conversations as we get into this here, 208 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: slimmed down rivalry week Saturday, whatever you want to call it. 209 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: We don't not have rivalries. We just don't have as 210 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: many as we did before, and even some of the 211 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: ones we do have have taken on a much much 212 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: different tone. Why don't let's just get to the games. 213 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Let's just do it. Any of the week. It is 214 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: week thirteen. Dan, you know what we typically do in 215 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: week thirteen? Our rivalry, right, Dawsom Dowsome dawesome, Dows'm Dowesom 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: usually got to throw those records out. Doesn't mean a thing. 217 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: It is also not the strongest slate of games, if 218 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you, Dan. 219 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: Hard disagree, not the strongest. 220 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Disagree. I think I think your best chance to see 221 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: close games is going to be on Friday. We're going 222 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: to get into all that as it relates though to 223 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the segment that people love to hate and I don't care. 224 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I window are growing more appreciative of it. 225 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't. Are you kidding? Really? 226 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Are you getting individual feedback? 227 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely? People age calling you a coward. Well not for this, 228 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: but okay, the window of opportunity. Again, it's a holiday weekend. 229 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't know where this podcast finds you. Some people 230 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: are doing the zooms givings. Some people are actually doing 231 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the real thing. I I'm not here to judge. Just 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: be safe, try not to spread the virus. We're here 233 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: to do a college football show, and I'm telling you 234 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: that I understand as a family man my self. Yeah, 235 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: some of the tensions, the push pull that has to 236 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: go on with you and your family and your significant 237 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: other to get in front of the TV to watch 238 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: some high level college football. 239 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to be specific about when it 240 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: is that you would like to watch college football sometimes 241 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: so other people can plan around the day exactly. 242 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Enter the window of opportunity. When is your window of 243 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: opportunity when you can go out and do what you 244 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: gotta do. I don't know, go see Hamilton on Disney Plus, 245 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: or go out early and bag some leaves whatever. I 246 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: not a sponsor, not bagging leaves or Hamilton. 247 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Did you watch Hamilton on Disney Plus? 248 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: Very good, outstanding. Yeah. I could be talked into a 249 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: few different angles here for this window. I don't think 250 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: it's the strongest slate. I think you've got options whichever 251 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: way you want to play it. But I think the 252 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: clearest window is early on Saturday. It's early on Saturday. Maryland, 253 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Indiana is interesting to us mutants, but that's kind of 254 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: it in terms of broader national appeal. Lord knows the 255 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: traditional Penn State Michigan game, which is usually just a behemoth. 256 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: This year, that one's only for sadists. You don't need 257 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: to watch that show unless you're interested in punishing yourself. 258 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: So for me, it's early on Saturday. What say you? 259 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: We don't get the egg bowls no longer on Thursday? 260 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Right? 261 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: The egg Bowl is just right? This year is moved 262 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: to Saturday. We have Colorado State, Air Force, New Mexico, 263 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: Utah State. Thursday is definitely a win to opportunity. And 264 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of those teams are interesting. New 265 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: Mexico and Utah State are combined. Ona, you can probably 266 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: skip that one on Thursday. 267 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 268 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: I think based on the schedule at least that you've 269 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: laid out in front of me, the early games on 270 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: Saturday day unless you're a big believer in Brandon Peters 271 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: given the ALLIONI a spark against Ohio State let down performance. 272 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Else. 273 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, actually, Houston Tulsa is really interesting to me. Yeah, 274 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: but are you are you on the level? 275 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you burning whatever capital, whatever goodwill you've built 276 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: up over the span of thirteen weeks so that you 277 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: can watch that. I don't think you're you're going to 278 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: burn it on that game. No, no offense to the participants. 279 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: That's interesting, but just saying. 280 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Is there a cheese it Bowl Energy the TCU cal 281 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Cheese It Bowl Energy to Penn State Michigan. For you, like, 282 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: you're not watching it like you're watching a college football Now. 283 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm watching it like it's performance art. 284 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching it like it's Nick Cage movie at this point, right, 285 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: it's sort of ironically. 286 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: It's nitty Nato. It's a sci fi ian zerring project. 287 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: Let's start with Friday. 288 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you don't want to keep comparing Penn State miss 289 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: into terrible content. 290 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it yet, Okay, fair, we can 291 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: actually get to that when we choose to or not 292 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: to preview that that game show whatever. That is. 293 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: Something I didn't realize, by the way, is that the 294 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: window of opportunity actually most applies to people on the 295 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: eastern time zone locations, right, because you don't really have 296 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: window if you're out west and the game start at 297 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: nine am, Like, what are you gonna You're supposed to 298 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: get stuff done at seven forty four am to prepare 299 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: And if that's a nice window. 300 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Damn right, damn right, Okay. 301 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: A lot of lows is not open. I don't believe 302 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: that early. 303 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock high noon on Friday, it's Iowa State, it 304 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: is Texas. Texas is a one point favorite. So for context, Dan, 305 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: here is where we stand in the Big twelve race 306 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: right now. Iowa State is six and two overall, but 307 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: six and one in conference. They've got sole possession of 308 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: first place. They basically need to be either Texas or 309 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: West Virginia to clear and just spot in the title game. 310 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: So they beat Texas this week, I believe they'd all 311 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: but clinched the regular season title. Like some back of 312 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: the Napkin stuff going on here, So don't hold me 313 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: to it, but it's it's been a successful campaign for 314 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the Clones. It can get even more successful if they 315 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: win one of their next two. Texas, on the other hand, 316 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: coming at this from a different angle, sort of a 317 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: must win spot for them if they want to have 318 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: any shot of the Big Twelve. For further context, the 319 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Clones won this one last year twenty three twenty one. 320 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: I think they played that one in Ames. So you know, 321 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I got a lot of different factors that are acting 322 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: upon this matchup here. Again, the line is only one 323 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: in favor of the Longhorns. They're at home. Do you 324 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: have a lean here? I do? 325 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: I do like the Clones here. I just it tickles 326 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: me to think back to I don't know, twenty ten, 327 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, whatever year you want to choose, a few 328 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: years ago. I know Iowa State has had some really 329 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: interesting and fun blips. But to go back in and say, listen, 330 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, hear me out the most dependably good 331 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: team in the conference, it's going to be wait for it, 332 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Iowa State. What a strange, strange little conference or big 333 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: conference as it is. Iowa State's largely good everywhere. They 334 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: don't generate enough passes downfield. They don't prevent enough of 335 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: those passes. If you're going to nitpick, brock Purty hasn't 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: been amazing against the Blitz. But the Clone defense gets 337 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: off the field really really well. And Texas's own offense 338 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: doesn't stay on the field nearly as well as they should. 339 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: They're three and out numbers are not great. I just 340 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: think there is something about Iowa State going against a 341 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: and at times back half of this Texas defense and 342 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 2: Texas's own offense not being able to take advantage of 343 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: where Iowa State is vulnerable. I know Iowa State isn't 344 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: the same team on the road. I believe they lost 345 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: in Stillwater right twenty four to twenty one. But I 346 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: think the Clones are in a nice spot here because 347 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: if you're going to beat up on Iowa State, it's 348 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: probably going to be on the ground mostly, and Texas 349 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: is beat up and inconsistent there. So I'm going to 350 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: Iowa State here to just play four better quarters of football. 351 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: I have thirty to twenty seven. 352 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: I am so split on this one. 353 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: I can't wait for it. The more I like dug 354 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: into it, it's like, can this is gonna be really fun? 355 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm with you. Everything from a numbers 356 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: perspective says that Texas is a top twenty five team 357 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: in Iowa State's a top fifteen team across the board. 358 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: The Clones are better, they're more balanced on offense, at 359 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: least from an efficiency standpoint. They're the second best defense 360 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve, and they've got a good matchup here, 361 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: a favorable The best running back in the conference, best 362 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: running back in the conference, brock Perty is not having 363 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: an amazing year, but he's so much better when you 364 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: don't pressure him and when guys are opened down the field, 365 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: and both of those things have been a real issue 366 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: for Texas this year. What is my favorite stat outside 367 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: of second order wins? Do you remembers air yards? Thank you? Yeah, 368 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: thank you? Texas giving up seven point two air yards 369 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: per pass? What does that mean? 370 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: It's not like a screen that goes for seven yards 371 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: in the passes behind the line of scrimmage, seven yards 372 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: from scrimmage to catch. 373 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: It's not dink and dunk stuff. That's one hundred and 374 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: seventeenth in the nation. Now. It doesn't always translate to 375 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: having a bad pass defense, but what it means is 376 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: guys are getting opened down the field. And Brock Purdy, 377 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I think if you don't pressure him, if you give 378 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: him those options, he's going to take advantage of him. 379 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: So at least again from what I see on paper, 380 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: I really like Iowa State. My problem is that I 381 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: hate going against Tom Herman in a big game. He's 382 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: generally very very tex This is a favorite, though not 383 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: a dog in this not a home dog. They are favored. Yeah, 384 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: And so I think I am going to go against 385 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: my own instincts here and I'm going to say Texas. 386 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: Outright, Okay, I always say it hasn't been the same 387 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: team on the road this year. 388 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: That's that's for sure. I think I'm gonna go against 389 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: my better judgment and go Texas here, just if only 390 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: because I know Tom Herman usually plays these games really tight. 391 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: This is a must win for them, and I just 392 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not going to The. 393 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Front four has gotten after the quarterback really, really well. 394 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: I'm actually not terribly concerned about Texas's defense, like I 395 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: think they're gonna give you know, they're not great against 396 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: the past, but they've done a good job preventing against 397 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: those bigger plays. And I think that's largely because the 398 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: defensive line has improved in getting to the quarterback and 399 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: sort of throwing off the timing of teams. They've done 400 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: a good job against the run by and large too 401 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: many big plays like we saw against TCU earlier on 402 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: in the season. But there's there are things to like 403 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: about Texas at home against a team that has probably 404 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: underperformed on the road. 405 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: So I guess we sort of disagree. I'm very spot 406 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to three thirty on Friday. This one is interesting, Dan. 407 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: It is Notre Dame on the road, only a four 408 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: point favorite against the North Carolina tar Heels. That four 409 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: point line is going to catch some people off guard. 410 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: I saw at least one set of numbers this week 411 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: that said Carolina should actually be favored by three. 412 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: So Carolina should be favorite. So what did you think, 413 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: going in blind what the spread should be. 414 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: I thought it should be higher Notre Dame seven WHOA okay, 415 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: so for at least maybe I'm only speaking for one 416 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: man here, but I thought for sure that it was 417 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit higher. Four. To me, 418 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: when you see four, that's screaming Carolina. Now, I have 419 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: seen it move a little bit in the Notre Dame direction, 420 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: which does not surprise me. I'm curious to see if 421 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: it moves more before kickoff. But look, I get it. 422 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: I am afraid of this game as a Notre Dame fan. 423 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I have been since April. 424 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: It was hear to the Louisville game. I guess with 425 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 2: good reason though in the air. 426 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so what is your lean here? I have 427 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: a lot to say on this game, as you might expect. 428 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: Do you have a lean just looking at this on 429 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: its face? Yeah? 430 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame wins a relatively high scoring game. 431 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: So the reason why I think Notre Dame isn't favored 432 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: by a touchdown or beyond. That is because North Carolina 433 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: still has probably one of the best five offenses in 434 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: the country. 435 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: I think is that a fair number offense? 436 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Notre Dame is down to starting offensive linemen. They're 437 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: very good at even if Ian Book isn't going downfield 438 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: like he wasn't doing in the first I guess part 439 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: half of the season. They stay ahead of schedule. They 440 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: generate a lot of third and two s, third and threes, 441 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: which it gives themselves options. Tommy Reese has been very 442 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: good about that. They don't find themselves staring behind at 443 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: the sticks. And North Carolina their defense, especially upfront, doesn't 444 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: a ton for me. I like their linebacking cars, I 445 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: like chess arat, but upfront they don't cause a ton 446 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: of damage. This is not a havocy front four. They 447 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: give up too many big plays. That worries me too. 448 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: With how Notre Dame has been performing downfield as well, 449 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: I think the interesting chess match is the obvious one, right. 450 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: It's Phil Longo, the offensive coordinator for North Carolina against 451 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: Clark Lee. It's North Carolina has struggled at times this 452 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: year seeing what is working and just rolling with it 453 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: like oh now, they're going back to Sam Howell. Now, 454 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: They're going back to the run game when Sam Howell 455 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: was cooking. Now they're like, it's gauging a game plan 456 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: early on in terms of what Notre Dame is allowing 457 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: and what they can't stop versus Notre Dame. 458 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: Wigh, if they. 459 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: Need to shift, how much they pressure Sam Howell, how 460 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: much they need to run, blitz, how much they need 461 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: to get after Sam Howell. They're not a blitzing team. 462 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: You will know better than I do, But they don't 463 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: seem like a big blitzing team. So it's just the 464 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: patience of Notre Dame against freaking out if they go 465 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: down fourteen to three early on, because knowing that North 466 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: Carolina's defense is probably gonna bend a significant amount. So 467 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame does give up points because there's 468 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: just there's too much speed. We saw them give up 469 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: the big plays to another high flying offense like Clemson's 470 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: is even though they did a great job against Travis Etn. 471 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: I think North Carolina is in a better place than 472 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Clemson was, just because Sam Howell is so much more 473 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: experienced than dj Uyanga La. So I'm gonna go Notre 474 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: Dame here forty two to thirty five. I think they're 475 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: gonna give up some big plays, but ultimately they're gonna 476 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: get enough stops. I'm more a little bit worried about 477 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: the offensive line and opening up holes for Kyron Williams 478 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: or whoever. But ultimately, I just I need you to 479 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: beat this Notre Dame team. You need to get stops, 480 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: you need to force mistakes, you need to whether it's 481 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: special teams, and neither one of these teams have especially 482 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: great special teams, so I'm gonna scratch that out. 483 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I like the Irish by a touchdown. Yeah. I well, 484 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: two things jump out to me, and I actually doing 485 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: the deep dive felt a little bit more reassured in 486 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: this contest. The first thing is that I think Notre 487 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: Dame is good enough upfront to pressure Sam Howe without blitzing. OK, 488 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: and that's important. They're not going to stop him, but 489 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: if they can rush them, if they get in his face, 490 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: they can muddy up the pocket a little bit. I 491 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: think that improves their chances to at least contain him 492 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: to some degree. You're right, they don't blitz a ton. 493 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: They don't have to, And my guess is that looking 494 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: at what North Carolina has done so far this year, 495 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: the front seven, the front four is going to be 496 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: good enough to change the rhythm for how a little bit, 497 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: and that could alter that effect. 498 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: They're also like to the best running team in the country. 499 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: Correct, Correct, But Sam Howe everything still flows through him, 500 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: So I think if you can limit the damage when 501 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: he's got the ball in his hands, or you're all 502 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: the wiser. The big thing, though, is to your point 503 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: about scoring, I don't think Notre Dame wants to get 504 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: into a shootout with North Carolina. If they can avoid it. 505 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: They may not be able to avoid it, but I 506 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: think this is a bat you. 507 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: Can't really avoid it when when the North Carolina defense 508 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: is involved sort of happens that way. 509 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: I think that Notre Dame can score. My question is 510 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: to what end is Notre Dame's defense going to be 511 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: able to hold down North Carolina? Right right? I think 512 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: Notre Dame wants to run it. They've wanted to run 513 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: it all year. It's what they're good at. They're going 514 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: to give it to Kyrien Williams, to Chris Tyree. But 515 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: the more important component on the running side of things 516 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: may actually be in book I think I Book's running 517 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: ability is ultimately the difference in this game. Both of 518 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Carolina's losses against Florida State and against Virginia have come 519 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: against teams that we're featuring quarterbacks as part of the 520 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: rushing attack. They very clearly game planned to include the 521 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: quarterback as part of the rushing attack. If you can 522 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: find a pro bet for em Book rushing guards, you 523 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: probably won't be able to find it until closer to kickoff, 524 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: But I would go over. I would feel terrific about it. 525 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I'll play the where's my sound here blunk of the 526 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: week if I see it, post it anywhere, I'll tweet 527 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: it out, I'll post it in our verball or discord 528 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: on Patreon. But I think that's the move, and I 529 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: think that is the difference. So I like Notre Dame here. 530 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: I think they're the better team. I think they certainly 531 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: are the better defense. I am concerned a little bit 532 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: about the line, but I think in the same conference. 533 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: They're in the same conference, They've played a lot of 534 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the same teams, and Notre Dame has certainly come out 535 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: on top of those their common opponents in much more 536 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: impressive fashion. I would not want to bet this game. 537 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: If I were actually betting, I'd probably take the points 538 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: at home, as I always do when Notre Dame's involved. 539 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: But I do feel coward. I do feel better about 540 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: the matchup after having looked a little bit more intently 541 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: at it. Okay, fair enough, let's go to your Oregon 542 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: versus Oregon matchup here. What are we calling this game now? 543 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: Oregon Oregon State Sir, Oregon. 544 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Oregon orgon matchup. You know, I don't know what we're 545 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: calling it. 546 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: I think it was our friend Ramsey Nazraala of Eleven 547 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: Warriors suggested the Platypus affair because they play for the 548 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: Platypus Cup. The platypus is sort of halfway between a 549 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: beaver and a duck, so it makes sense. I've seen 550 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: suggestions for the Oregon I'm throwing out the turf Warregon, 551 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: the Rainy Rumble No, yes, no, the fur Fight nod, 552 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: but f I R because of Douglas Fir Trees. Seven 553 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: pm Friday, The thunder Egg throw Down. The official state 554 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: rock of the state of Oregon is the thunder Egg 555 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: Oregon minus thirteen on the road at Oregon State. 556 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Other than this being a questionably named rivalry where 557 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: we obviously would usually throw the records out. Is there 558 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: any reason to pick Oregon State here either? Plus the 559 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: points are outright, any reason whatsoever. 560 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: Sure, Oregon's defense has not been good, especially up the middle. 561 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Oregon's been pushed around. Oregon's been confused. Oregon has struggled 562 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: tackling safeties, linebackers. It hasn't been great even on offense 563 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: in the middle of their offensive line, they've been pushed around. 564 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: We saw from UCLA and it's not all that inspiring 565 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: at this point because Oregon State can't do much. They're 566 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: not generating that much in the way of chunky plays 567 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: and UCLA was going into last week, Ucla was generating 568 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: bigger plays and they did it against Oregon's defense once again. 569 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: Now again Oregon State runs well. Jamar Jefferson has been 570 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: probably the most consistent element to this Oregon State team. 571 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: They just they can't throw the ball, and UCLA was 572 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: able to generate those plays. They don't have dudes in 573 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: the passing game to me, and Oregon just needs to 574 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: clean up its tackling and they'll be okay. I don't 575 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: know how easy that is in terms of easier said 576 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: than done, but if they're at least approach incompetent. In 577 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: that regard, I think Oregon wins by twenty points. The 578 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: running element worries me, Jamar Jefferson worries me like he 579 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: should everybody. But I don't know when push comes to shove. 580 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: I think it could be close at halftime, and Oregon 581 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: wins this game, you know, forty two to twenty one. 582 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. I am with you 583 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: on Oregon. I'll lay the points on the road, even 584 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: though Corvallis is a weird place to play. I'll lay 585 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: those points. 586 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: It is weird, but there's nobody in the crowd. 587 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: It's fine, all right. Two other games here on Friday, 588 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: real quick. We have Iowa at home, favored by about 589 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: two touchdowns over Nebraska. Yeah. And then we've got Hero's Game. Yeah, 590 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: the Hero's Game. We've got the big game between Stanford 591 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: and cal is a two point home favorite. Any leans 592 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: on either of those two games? 593 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I am leaning towards Iowa's kicker, once again, blowing 594 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: kisses to the Nebraska sideline, because that's how last year ended. 595 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 2: Nebraska has not won this game since twenty fourteen. What 596 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: was the number four movie at the box office that weekend. 597 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Nebraska last beat Iowa. That's right, Ty, Interstellar, Yeah, Interstellar, 598 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: the number four movie. The last time Nebraska won this game. 599 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Iowa can't throw the ball. They go three and out 600 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: way too much because of it. But Iowa stops the 601 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: one thing Nebraska sometimes does well, which is run the ball. 602 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: It is a rivalry game. We saw it closer than 603 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: it probably should have been last year, where Iowa was 604 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: a more complete. 605 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: Team than they look like right now. 606 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: Still, though Nebraska, I wast Illinois. I have a thirty 607 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 2: to thirteen hawks. 608 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: I really like Iowa here. Nebraska is literally a one 609 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: man band with Luke McCaffrey either throws it or he 610 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: runs it. But and Wandel Ro. We like Wondel Roe. 611 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: We like Wandelle. But it's just I don't know. I 612 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's a lost season in some sense for Nebraska. 613 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: They haven't been good. I used to think that the 614 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: defense was better. That's kind of going out the window. 615 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: So I'm with you on Iowa and don't really have 616 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: a lean and sta And for Cal it's a fun matchup. 617 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: I see Cal's favored by two. I'm inclined to just 618 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: go home. Team minus two. 619 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to Stanford by six. I don't like Cow. 620 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: I've watched Cal play football. They've had some interesting stretches, 621 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: but they've looked pretty bad. And I know the UCLA 622 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: context was very different. I think Stanford has its act 623 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: together a little bit more strangers. That might sound. Yeah, 624 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: the lows of Cal worry me. So I'm going Cardinal here. 625 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Actually on the road, let's go to early on Saturday. 626 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that Maryland Indiana game. Indiana favored by 627 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: thirteen and one half points. So Indiana lost that game 628 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: a week ago against Ohio State. Is there any letdown effect, 629 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: any let down effect at all for the Hoosiers now 630 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: coming back home after that big loss to the Buckeyes, 631 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: going up against a team like a Maryland who you know, 632 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: they're a pretty heavy favorite against the Terrapins. I don't. 633 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: Not only do I think there's a letdown effect, I 634 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: think there's a letdown look ahead effect. 635 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I play the sound Oh look at don Sandwich. I'm 636 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: so hungry. I'm so hungry. Oh boy, they've. 637 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: Got Wisconsin on the road next week. Interesting, Dan, I 638 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: sing love Indiana football. I love watching them. I like 639 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: listening to Tom Allen. I love ty Fry Fogel, I 640 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: love Michael Pennix. I like so many things I know 641 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: you like Stevie Scotty hasn't been a huge factor this year. 642 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: I like so many things about watching Indiana. Also bumm 643 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: that Tom Allen's son left, And is it hurt? 644 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: I think you weren't a believer in the who'sh I 645 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: was not. I was not a believer. How how can 646 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: we take you seriously now? Because all you did week thirteen? 647 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: Now you finally come to us with your your hat 648 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: in your hands, Dan Tye. 649 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: Every single week we bring up Indiana football. 650 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: And what do you say, second order wins? I can 651 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: order whens, second order wins, second orders. I don't say 652 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: it like that, but continue. That's how I hear you. 653 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: And now they really perform super well in a losing 654 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: effort against Ohio State. I think they're going to beat Maryland. 655 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Maryland hasn't played in a long time. They've had two 656 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: weeks off because of COVID. Not good. It feels shootout 657 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: e to me. I think IU wins this game thirty 658 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: four to twenty eight. But Turp's cover if I mean, 659 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what these rosters are looking like. I 660 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: don't know anything. I just the sense I get if 661 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: all things are relatively equal in terms of available players, 662 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: which might not necessarily be the case. I think Maryland 663 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: should be able to get a little bit chunky score 664 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: some points. Ultimately Indiana gets more stops thirty four to 665 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: twenty eight. 666 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I would not want to lay two touchdowns here. It 667 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: might be ten eleven points something like that, but I 668 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: would I would say thirty five twenty four, give me 669 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Indiana to win, but not cover at home with that potential. 670 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: Let me after all of that, we do agree, We 671 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: do agree. Let's get this one out of the way. 672 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Penn State Michigan. Michigan's favored by two. 673 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even open up any of my spreadsheets for 674 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: this because I don't think you're gonna find any ranking 675 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: system in the world that can accurately portray how much 676 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: Penn State has has packed it in. And I said 677 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: it on the last show, Michigan is my stone, cold, ironclad, 678 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: uh quick set quickset, not a sponsor lock of the 679 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: week of the week. Oh my god. At least Michigan 680 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: can feel good about Cade McNamara coming in. Maybe giving 681 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: him a spark. Give me one real, one good, just 682 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: comparable story on the Penn State side. 683 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 2: Give me Tracy chat Tracy Chatman. I was gonna say, 684 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: we need to come. I don't think we can license that, 685 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: but now I can sing like three seconds and giving one. 686 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: Give me one good reason to feel good about Penn 687 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: State after what you've seen in the last five weeks. 688 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: Just give me one thing, one thing. 689 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: Do it for the Gipper or Pat fryarm youth element 690 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: within one for the Gipper. 691 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 692 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: They actually are okay against the runs. Sometimes Penn State 693 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: they're terrible against the pass. I think I just saw 694 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: that they had an opt out. I don't know if 695 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: it's a contributor. 696 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: It might have been me. Yeah, I think it was 697 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: the fan base. Okay. 698 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: But so which of these teams seems more pack it up, 699 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: pack it in, just in terms of effort, emotion, ready 700 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: for the year to be done. And which of these 701 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: teams has the better players and is it the same team? 702 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the same team. 703 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: I think penncer to both Penn State has better players, 704 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: but more pronounced sense of let's just get this season done. 705 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: With absolutely, fresolutely not even close. 706 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: Penn State has been close to winning games. They were 707 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: close to beating Indiana, which has aged well. They should 708 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: have won that game, but that's, you know whatever, that's 709 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 2: pre Halloween. They lose an ugly fashion. In Nebraska, they lose, 710 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: although they played a decent second half against Maryland. They 711 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: quitted themselves okay at times against Ohio State, and just 712 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: look like nothing against Iowa. Michigan had a little bit 713 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: of fire in coming back, made the quarterback change, but 714 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: it was against Rutgers. 715 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: Listen, we cannot use any of the usual devices. 716 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 2: I know, I understand. I'm just trying to solve the 717 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: effort to. 718 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: Measure this game. This is all feel and I'm telling 719 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: you your nuts. If you pick Penn stay here, you 720 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: are nuts. They have looked lifeless out there two weeks ago. 721 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: There were guys on defense jogging around. Do not even 722 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: go there. This is all Michigan lock at two points. 723 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: You give me two points, I'll give two points, no problem. 724 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm out on Michigan. 725 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: Couldn't solve Rocky Lombardy. 726 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Dan Penn State has no quarterback at the moment. No quarterback. 727 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not making a case. Four pen sent I'm 728 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: just making a case against Michigan because that's also very difficult. 729 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: I am out. I am so out. I've opted out 730 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: of Penn State, and I think Penn State's opted out 731 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: of Penn State. 732 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: All right, I say Michigan by three. I think it's 733 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: another heartbreaking loss for Penn State. I'm not heartbreaking, but 734 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: heart mentioning. 735 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: All right, we agree. Other games here in the early block, 736 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: We've got Texas Tech against Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State favored 737 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: by eleven. We've got Kentucky against Florida favored by twenty three, 738 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State minus twenty eight on the road against Illinois. 739 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: We've got Tulsa versus Houston, Houston favored by two. Game 740 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: you called out earlier. And then we've got NC State 741 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: against Syracuse, which initially I had the fourteen on the 742 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: Syracuse side, when in fact it's NC State minus fourteen. 743 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 744 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: No problem for revolution, Huh what do they know? 745 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: No, thank you for that correction. 746 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: I like, oh Man, Texa attack has been pretty bad 747 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: on the road. They have not won on the road 748 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and sort of letdown mode after Bedlam. But 749 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: they also don't separate from teams. I guess I'm gonna go. 750 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: I guess I'll go Oklahoma State here by a couple 751 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 2: of touchdowns. Yeah, they can cover this game. I like 752 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: Florida big Kyle Pitts's back. I saw the news report 753 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: that he's making his return after a couple of weeks. 754 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 2: So that's big for Florida. Kentucky licking their wounds after 755 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: just a demolishing the hands of Alabama. I do like 756 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State minus twenty eight, but I gave it a minute. 757 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: I gave it a minute to think, well, Okay, did 758 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: what did Illinois do last week? 759 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: And a win? 760 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: Like what? It's a Nebraska team that you know has 761 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 2: shown I don't know, not much. Would they beat Penn State? 762 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: Sure? 763 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: What is it about twenty eight points that scares me? 764 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: With Ohio State not fully looking the same, it's it's 765 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: nothing to do with Illinois. So I couldn't find the 766 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: Tracy Chapman of it. So I'm won Ohio State there, 767 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 2: n C State I like by three touchdowns against Syracuse. 768 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm taking Houston at home against a very good Tulsa team. 769 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm taking Houston at home. You look at what Houston 770 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: schedule has been. They've acquitted themselves pretty well. They've just 771 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: played a lot of really good teams. So their losses 772 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: are to BYU which, yeah, it's understandable. Cincinnati, Yeah, it's understandable. 773 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: UCF also defensible coming off of bye week at home 774 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: looks Razor thin. The margin against Tulsa, who what they 775 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 2: snuck by Tulane last week. So I'm gonna go Houston 776 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: here by four or five points against Tulsa. I don't 777 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: know if I fully trust the Tulsa offense to consistently 778 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: move the ball. So yeah, we're gonna go Houston here 779 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: and a nice win. 780 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: I like Florida big. I like Oklahoma State in a 781 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: game that's right around that number. I do like Ohio 782 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: State minus the number. I think I agree with you 783 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: on all these games, actually, which is an uncomfortable thing 784 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: for me, But all five of them we agree. We agree. 785 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: Although I think did Texas Tech like comfortably lead Oklahoma 786 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: State last year and the year before. 787 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: I believe they did. 788 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 2: Now these are two different coaches twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen 789 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 2: for Tech, but I believe that's true. 790 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 791 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to file away if you think that's important 792 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: in the after a good. 793 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: Job block, Dan, Yeah, iron pol m hmm. Alabama favored 794 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: by twenty three and a half point. Oh my god? 795 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 2: So are you are you throwing records out? 796 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: You have to throw records out here. Doesn't mean that 797 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Alabama is not going to cover, but you have to 798 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: throw the records out in the Iron Bowl because it's 799 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: a game where we've got a lot of history, a 800 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: lot of pageantry, a lot of quirky moments. I think 801 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: Alabama is going to win this game by a couple 802 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: of touchdowns, so not too worried about that. But the 803 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: thing that I kept coming back to is the fact 804 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: that they're not bulletproof. They're just not. Their defense is 805 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: not bulletproof. So in terms of the points spread, Dan, 806 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: do you see anything that would keep this one inside 807 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: that number? Keeping in mind that Alabama's covered, I think 808 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: it's eighty percent of the time so far this year. 809 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: And Tank Bigsby I saw is questionable for the Auburn Tigers. 810 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: So are both of their starting tackles. I think they're 811 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 2: both out as far as I can tell. So that 812 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: makes what Tank bigs me worries me. Bo Nicks has 813 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: never lost to the Tide. No, he hasn't bow Knicks 814 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: has never ever lost. Now, I know you mentioned the 815 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: bulletproof element, or the lack thereof. It might just be 816 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: that in retrospect giving up a bunch of points to 817 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: Old Miss, it shouldn't happen on Alabama's caliber defensive wise, 818 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: like it shouldn't necessarily be fifty points or forty eight 819 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: or whatever it was. But outside of that, in retrospect, 820 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 2: holding Texas A and M to twenty four, it's pretty good. 821 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: It's not bad, right, No, since giving up forty eight 822 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: to Ole Miss. I mean this is on the fly 823 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 2: math here ty twenty four to Georgia, seventeen to Tennessee, 824 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: zero to Mississippi State two weeks not playing because of 825 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 2: the LSU cancelation, three points against Kentucky. We don't love 826 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: any of those four offenses, but if math serves, that's 827 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: allowing eleven points a game since the Ole Miss game. Now, 828 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 2: Auburn has a better offense than probably at least the 829 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: last three teams Tennessee, Mississippi State, Kentucky. Georgia was operating 830 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 2: definitely better when Georgia played Auburn. So seventeen points twenty 831 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 2: one points. I think Alabama's in a really nice spot 832 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: to win this game comfortably twenty three and a half. 833 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot of points in a rivalry. 834 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: I think Alabama's operating on such a crazy level, though 835 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: right now. 836 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: They're really good. 837 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: Was the thing that the slow start against Tennessee worries me? 838 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: From Auburn? Just you can't afford a down first quarter? 839 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: Your first Stanza can't be that listless. 840 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: Did you happen to see Nase Harris in the move 841 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: he put? Oh so great out there last week? He's 842 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: so good Mac Jones. It feels like every highlight a 843 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: sea of him. He's just very comfortable in the pocket. 844 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: You want to talk about calm throw Kyle Trask, sure, 845 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: call him throw Mac or the Mac attack, whatever you 846 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: want to call it. He's been sensational when he's got 847 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: time to throw the football. I don't know if Auburn 848 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: can do much to curtail that, to be honest with you, 849 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: so I wavered on this one. I really did. Of course, 850 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: you throw the records out. Of course, it's a rivalry 851 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: where we've seen some odd things go down in recent memory. 852 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: But I worry that Auburn just does not have the 853 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of consistent firepower they need on offense to keep 854 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: this one within within that number, like, oh, they don't. 855 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: I think Nick Saban's gonna know what Auburn has to 856 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: throw at him. And whereas before in previous iterations there 857 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: might have been more of a multi pronged attack to 858 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: worry about, I just I don't see it this year. 859 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: It feels a little bit flatter. So, even though it's 860 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 1: against better judgment, I go Alabama minus the points. 861 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Auburn's run the ball up at her now starting 862 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: tackles out Tank Bigsby is the definite. 863 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: Maybe. 864 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you gotta be able to move the ball, 865 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: especially through the air, And I don't see it from 866 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: Bo Nicks this year. I have forty five to twenty one, 867 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: So raise or thin cover for Alabama. 868 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: We are a bunch of other games in this afternoon block. 869 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: Let me rifle through them. Dan got the Egg Bowl 870 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: Mississippi State against Ole Missile Misses a ten and a 871 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: half point home favorite. By the way, I want no 872 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: part of the points. 873 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 2: For Oh, I love this game. I'll take it. 874 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna give the points. No, I'm gonna 875 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: take the point. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't. 876 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: I thought you just want to know part of wagering 877 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: on it at all. 878 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: No, Mississippi State with their improved defense, All Miss with 879 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: their barely defense. I just I don't know who I 880 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: like to win. But if you're give me ten points 881 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: one way or the other, I'm taking it. So give 882 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: me give me State here. 883 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Will Rogers State Park was a lot better. 884 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: Do you understand that reference? 885 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: There is a Will Rogers being again, there's a Will 886 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: Rogers Institute too. 887 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I think he was competent accurately. Wasn't 888 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 2: great downfield last week against Georgia, but they gave the 889 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: Dogs a fight, and that's with JT. Daniels looking pretty 890 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: great for Georgia. So I think Misssippi State's still a 891 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 2: ways away, but in a rivalry game with as weird 892 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 2: as it was last year with State winning the game 893 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 2: and Elijah Moore, I I'm just gonna go with State here. 894 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: I think I think All Miss wins by four to 895 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: seven points. I think we'll probably go to overtime. It 896 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: just feels like a year to go to overtime. So 897 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: egg bowling overtime in twenty twenty, that's my call. So 898 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 2: Mississippi State pus the points. 899 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: Other games in this afternoon block, there are a bunch 900 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: who've got Colorado at USC USC favored by too many points. 901 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 1: Give me the thirteen and a half. Yeah, yep. Northwestern 902 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: on the road minus eleven and a half against Michigan State. 903 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: Does this feel too low to you? Feels too low 904 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: to me? 905 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: No, because Northwestern does not have a good offense at all. 906 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 2: So if you're going to translate, if your currency exchange 907 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 2: involves Northwestern, eleven and a half, Northwestern points are seventeen 908 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: and a half decent offense points. So I understand it. 909 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to give the points, but I understand the line. 910 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: Michigan State is truly bad. Northwestern should not have that 911 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 2: many issues. But Michigan State comfortably beat Northwestern last year 912 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 2: when Northwestern had some offensive struggles. He said, as completely 913 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: downplaying a future at Northwestern twenty nineteen offense, I think 914 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: the Cats are there. It's a letdown, spot ty. It 915 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 2: is bea Wisconsin you become a top ten ish team. 916 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 2: I don't think Michigan State is at all good. But 917 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: without an explosive offense, Northwestern can't really run the ball. 918 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 2: They're accurate enough, but they don't really make plays downfield. 919 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 2: It's hard to separate on the road as a double 920 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: digit favorite no matter who you're playing. I have Northwestern 921 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 2: covering this, but kind of barely. Twenty one nine, twenty 922 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 2: three to ten something in there. 923 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: There's a real chance that Northwestern wins this football game 924 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: by a thirteen to two score. Sure, there's a real 925 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: chance that there are all take those points, I fifteen 926 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: to three something like that. Yeah, but I'm still taking 927 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: the Cats because I don't think Michigan State can score 928 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: on them. Say what you want about decent offense equivalent 929 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: here in terms of the point spread, but I just 930 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Michigan State's got that offense. So no, 931 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: they definitely don't. Rutgers, my no, Rutgers getting twelve points, 932 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: wow the road against Perdue, Is that right? That's I think? Right? Yeah, 933 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: give me Rutgers, baby. I like the Scarlet Knights. 934 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: Although yeah, I mean Purdue should have won that garbage call. 935 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: Rutgers. They're feisty. 936 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: They're just sort of playing with the like it's year zero. 937 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: Who cares, let's buy in and see what happens. Whereas Purdue, 938 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, going back and forth quarterback wise, they I mean, 939 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 2: they did get Rondelle Moore back. They just it seems 940 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 2: like one week they're really throwing the ball well and 941 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 2: they're not running well. In the next week, you know, 942 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: Xander Horvath will go off or something like that, but 943 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: they're inconsistent through the air. I'm gonna go with Rutgers 944 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: and not winning the game, but losing by seven to ten. 945 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: We've got Pitt against Clemson. Clemson's a twenty six and 946 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: a half point favorite. The question is, first off, is 947 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: there any kind of ability from Dabo Sweeney to channel 948 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: all that animosity into this football game. They're on a 949 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a longer layover for obvious reasons. And secondly, 950 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: is there any component to this game of pat nardoozy 951 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: because of recent history against Clemson, having their number, knowing 952 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: how to play against them. It was a long time 953 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: ago at this point with it was it was a 954 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: long time ago. That's James Connor pit with Kenny Pickett 955 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: back out there, knowing that Clemson's got some vulnerability against 956 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: the pass. Like, I don't know, is there a potential 957 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: here for a redux of that Pit Clemson game from 958 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,959 Speaker 1: several years ago? 959 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: So you're asking, do I believe in Addison Turner overdrive? 960 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Jordan Addison DJ Turner. Jordan Adison did not 961 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 2: play last week. I'm not sure the circumstance, if it 962 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: was injury or COVID related contact tracing or what have you. 963 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 2: I think the return of Trevor Lawrence. I think the 964 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 2: loads of Pitt though, the loads of pit. I think 965 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: we're Joey Yellen Pitt. I'm what's spread again? Twenty six, 966 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: twenty seven points. 967 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: Twenty six and a half. And keep in mind that 968 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: Clemson won the game forty two to ten a year ago. 969 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: They did win the game comfortably a year ago. Clemson 970 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 2: this year. I'm checking this right now to verify it. 971 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: Because Clemson's not good against the spread. They've only covered 972 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 2: forty percent of their games against the spread, so they're 973 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: a bit overvalued in how lines makers are setting that line. 974 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Pitt here. I'm gonna take Pitt to cover. 975 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: They lose by three touchdowns, but yeah, Clemson has They've 976 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 2: definitely struggled. Pitt hasn't been great against the spread, but 977 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 2: Clemson's definitely struggled, you know, separating themselves from teams of late, 978 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 2: and so I don't think. I think they still have 979 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: killers on that team, but not in the same way 980 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 2: they've had these past couple of years. So Pitt is 981 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: competent enough throw away the Notre Dame game, They'll just 982 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 2: throw it away forget about it. I think Pitt loses 983 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: game by three touchdowns, but it's a ten point game 984 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 2: in the third quarter. 985 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Pit plus a point as well. Yeah, 986 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: that was sort of my first impulse there. Louisville minus 987 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: one on the road at Boston College. We've got Coastal 988 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: Carolina minus seventeen on the road against Texas State, Louisiana 989 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: minus four touchdowns against ul Monroe, and Cincinnati minus a 990 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: hefty number thirty six and a half on the road 991 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 1: at Temple. Temple's awful, Yes, they are awful this season. 992 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: What's his name? 993 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 2: PJ Walker has been great. PJ Walker has Carolina Panthers. 994 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, not great, but he's you know, it's a 995 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 2: good story. He was in the XFL through for something 996 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 2: like two sixty a week, could go on a win. Yeah, 997 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: it's bad for Temple, but no, I'm I'm inclined to 998 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: go Cincinnati minus anything. In that matchup, just because Temple 999 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 2: has been really bad this year? 1000 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: Is it a look ahead spot for Cincy. I don't 1001 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: think it matters here, Dan, Oh no, they have. 1002 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: It's an open face. So yeah, they have a bye 1003 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 2: and then they have Tulsa. 1004 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1005 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati Big is fine. Thirty six and a 1006 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 2: half is a lot of points, but they should be fine. 1007 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: Close call. 1008 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a letdown after UCF, but 1009 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: Temple's the right team to get after a letdown or 1010 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 2: to get after that kind of close when Louisiana should 1011 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: beat fun Row Big. Coastal is a nice matchup for 1012 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 2: Texas State, or I mean Texas State is the nice 1013 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,359 Speaker 2: matchup for Coastal because Texas State is going to throw 1014 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 2: the ball the whole time and Coastal's done a really 1015 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 2: nice job. It is a letdown spot though for the 1016 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 2: Shunts after that app State one tie going on the road. 1017 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a little shootout eat that Coastal. I'm going 1018 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 2: to take Texas State. I don't have good reason, tie, 1019 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: Brady McBride, Brady McBride, excuse me, had a nice game 1020 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 2: the bobcats Texas State. Yeah you tell me, Tie, Yeah, No, 1021 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: we're the bodcasts. 1022 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: We don't need to have a justifiable case to pick 1023 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: any of these teams. That's sort of what that whole 1024 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: show's about. 1025 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: Texas State, as I look at their record was close 1026 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 2: against Georgia Southern, they scored points against Louisiana BYU not 1027 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 2: so much, relatively close against South Alabama, close against BC tie. 1028 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 2: I think they can be frisky enough. So frisky enough 1029 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 2: Brady McBride completes some passes, they do not lose by seventeen. 1030 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: It was by fourteen points, and they cover against the Shauns. 1031 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 2: I love BC against Louisville. BC is a much better 1032 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 2: team at home. It was close against Syracuse and the 1033 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: Carrier Dome, but BC at home against Louisville team that's 1034 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 2: just far too mistake prone. I think BC is well 1035 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 2: coached enough to take advantage. So I'm going to the 1036 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: scream and Eagles there, screaming Eagles. 1037 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, the Screaming Eagles had done a 1038 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 1: really good job in turnover margin so far this year, 1039 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of circumstances where obviously that's important. 1040 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: I think against Louisville it's even more important because Louisville 1041 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: is very prone to turnovers this year. You could argue 1042 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty much felled the whole season. So YEP, I 1043 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: am with you. On Boston College final block. 1044 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: They be pitt at home. They comfortably beat Georgia Tech 1045 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: at home. They showed fight against Notre Dame, but ultimately 1046 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: the better team won that game. They're a good team 1047 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: in Chestnut Hill final block of games. 1048 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: Here, let's go to the late nightcap. Let's talk about 1049 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: Oklahoma minus ten on the road at West Virginia. This 1050 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: line is screaming West Virginia. Is it screaming? What do 1051 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: you love about West Virginia? Nothing? 1052 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing? Well, that's not true. That's not true. If 1053 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 2: I like, how do you like nothing about West Virginia. 1054 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: It's one of the best twenty defenses in the country. 1055 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: If you're playing the Tracy Chapman game, I guess your 1056 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: reason for West Virginia would be the defense, certainly not 1057 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: these Yes, it would be the defense. They get the 1058 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: hell off the field. It's amazing. I don't think ten 1059 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: is enough here. I don't think ten is enough. Oklahoma 1060 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: annihilated Oklahoma State a week ago. That was also a 1061 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 1: good defense. That game was over in the first quarter, 1062 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: So we could play the potential like let down effect, 1063 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: but it's for sure letdown. Oklahoma may have gotten that 1064 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: out of their system in like the second quarter, so 1065 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't buy into it here. Can the Ears slow 1066 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 1: down Oklahoma? Yeah? But are they going to be able 1067 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,439 Speaker 1: to score enough to keep it within ten? I don't 1068 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: think so. I hate taking Oklahoma on the road, but 1069 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: they've covered eighty three percent of the time this year. 1070 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: I really like them in the spot. I think there's 1071 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to roll over West Virginia, roll into that 1072 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: Big twelve title game, give themselves another shot here. So 1073 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: give me the Sooners minus at ten. 1074 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 2: I think West Virginia's defense is better, if not a 1075 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 2: little less proven than Oklahoma States, just because of those 1076 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 2: guys upfront are just so good. If this game where 1077 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: a Norman, obviously, it's a lot easier to like the 1078 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 2: Sooners against the two best teams on West Virginia's schedule. 1079 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: The offensive scored, I believe this is all offensive points, 1080 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 2: thirteen points in each of them at Oklahoma State and 1081 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: at Texas. How many points do you need to beat 1082 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: Oklahoma month any given week if you're just sort of 1083 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 2: a replacement level offense probably thirty five to thirty eight 1084 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 2: at least. 1085 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thirty yeah. 1086 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 2: I think I think both teams that I think Iowa 1087 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 2: State scored thirty seven, and I want to say Kansas 1088 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 2: State score thirty five. Is that right somewhere in there. 1089 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 2: West Virginia is not getting near there? The question is 1090 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 2: the ten point thing. There are elements of West Virginia's offense. 1091 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 2: I like, I still think they are a year or 1092 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 2: two away from really stalking up. The game changes on 1093 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 2: that side of the ball. So Oklahoma's going to win 1094 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: this game. I think they're Oklahoma wins by thirteen. Oh 1095 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 2: so I have it as like thirty one seventeen and 1096 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 2: that two touchdown range, so they barely cover. But I 1097 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 2: don't think it's an annihilation by any stretch because a 1098 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 2: good defense at home, as a double digit dog tie, 1099 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 2: that's really tough. That's really tough in a letdown spot, 1100 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to go for I'm just gonna take the 1101 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: points here. I think Oklahoma wins. Oklahoma wins, but I'm 1102 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: gonna stake this is this is who I am as 1103 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: a picker. Double digit dog at home with a good 1104 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 2: defense usually, I say, and also a tough place to play, 1105 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 2: which Morgantown is, but not right now with given the 1106 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 2: crowd constraints. I'm still gonna take West Virginia in those points. 1107 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: How about that? Okay? I mean, I think it's it's 1108 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: an intriguing line. It's lower than I expected. You were 1109 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: talking on our slack channel that you would shave your 1110 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: head if West Virginia loss this. Are you still good? 1111 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: I can't eat all of the heat I can get 1112 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 2: in the Chicago winner Nima furin. 1113 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: Some other games. Here we've got LSU against Texas A 1114 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: and M and M favored by fourteen points. Dan sign 1115 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: of the times, a sign of a weird twenty twenty 1116 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: that this game is looking on the surface so lopsided. 1117 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: The Agis are like plugging away. Man. They got four 1118 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: games left. Looks like a nine to one season is 1119 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 1: probable at this point. That one loss, of course, being 1120 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 1: their second game of the year against Alabama, covering in 1121 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of their games. Something like that. I 1122 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: think I saw I like A and M here. I 1123 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know if I like them enough to lay fourteen 1124 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: points like Perhaps it's just baggage from years past, but 1125 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I trust LSU to some extent to keep this one 1126 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: within that number by give me the Tracy Chapman. I 1127 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: don't know if there is a Tracy Chapman, Dan, I 1128 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know if there is, but I know my first 1129 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: instinct was to go A and M, and my first 1130 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: instinct this year has been woefully underserving the public. So 1131 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: give me, give me ls post the points. Why not? 1132 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: You've watched LSU play defense, That's why not. You watched 1133 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: multiple attempts to play defense from the LSU Tigers. They 1134 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 2: give up nearly fifty to Auburn, forty five to Miszoo. 1135 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Now this is a team that is healthier, and I 1136 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 2: just I'd rather just go with what I'm more sure of, 1137 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 2: and that's text saying M at this point. 1138 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, give me the aggies here elsewhere in that 1139 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: later block, A bunch of games here, Georgia minus twenty 1140 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: one on the road at South Carolina. I think there's 1141 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: a chance Georgia obliterates South Carolina this weekend, obliterates. 1142 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 2: Them now that JT. Daniels is operating. Yes, okay, I agree, Man, 1143 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't have good reason for South Carolina. 1144 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee minus ten against Vandy k State a five point 1145 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: dog on the road against Baylor, TCU minus twenty four 1146 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: and a half against Kansas, Arizona plus eight and a 1147 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: half on the road at ECLA, Duke one point road 1148 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: favorite against Georgia Tech. And we've got Virginia minus nine 1149 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: against Florida State any Leans. Any of those games. 1150 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: TCU Kansas is fascinating because just for line reasons, not 1151 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 2: for football reasons, just because well, you know, like the 1152 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 2: old idiom like I knew John Smith, and you, sir, 1153 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 2: are no like I know, a twenty four and a 1154 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 2: half point favorite, and you TCU offense, oh, twenty four 1155 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 2: and a half point zo. I have no good reason 1156 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: for Kansas Kansas. I don't believe has covered a game 1157 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 2: this year, so I guess I'll go Frogs there. I 1158 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 2: like UCLA. I don't think Arizona is very good. I 1159 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 2: think that's more of a commentary on where USC might 1160 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: be that Arizona game was close. They got obliterated against Washington. 1161 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 2: I like Georgia Tech at home against Duke. I think 1162 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: they should be able to run pretty well. I like 1163 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Virginia as what nine point favorites against Florida State on 1164 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: the road. It's a nice matchup. They should be able 1165 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: to move the ball relatively easily against Florida State. I 1166 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 2: actually like ken Sealsasuzu and the Vanderbilt commodorees here against Tennessee. 1167 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Really right, Yeah, I think Tennessee's pack it up, pack 1168 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: it in. I think a little bit. I think. 1169 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean there are elements of Tennessee. I think offensively, 1170 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Tennessee really is making an effort. I think they're making 1171 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 2: somewhat of an effort. I don't think they're packing up, 1172 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 2: pack it in. I take it fully back. I just 1173 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 2: think Vanderbilt is good enough to cover ten points against 1174 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 2: a team that has lost five straight games decisively. 1175 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: No interesting. 1176 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 2: I like Baylor against Kansas State. You get shut out, 1177 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 2: you lose by forty five points. Yes, I will allow 1178 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 2: you to lose by five or more. 1179 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: That requires Baylor to score five points though, which may 1180 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: not be come on, may not be a given. 1181 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm taking Baylor there, and whatever the status 1182 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 2: is of Utah Arizona State, I guess I'll take Arizona State. 1183 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Is there an un actual line for that game? 1184 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a line play. If I understand correctly, 1185 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 1: they're planning on playing this one on Sunday and actually 1186 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: a line is out. A line is out ASU minus 1187 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: three and a half. Yeah, I'll go as you there, 1188 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: all right? 1189 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like their running their JC situation at running back. 1190 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 2: I like Jayden Daniels. 1191 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: And Uti. 1192 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 2: I think has a lot to figure out on offense themselves. 1193 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Cam Rising left that game. He's promising the Texas transfer. 1194 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Jake Bentley didn't look all that good. Yeah, I'll take 1195 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Asua if that game happens. 1196 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, I really like Georgia in this block. I 1197 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: like UCLA as well. Tom Eastern on Sunday two pm. Okay, 1198 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I like I like UCLA as well. I like Georgia Tech. 1199 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 1: So a couple of games here. The Tennessee LAM might 1200 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: be a bridge too far. I'm not crazy about Vandy, 1201 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: but it'll be an interesting test case for pack it 1202 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Up packet in Tennessee where they're at. 1203 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I think that's all I have. I 1204 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 2: wish we could talk about the Colonial League or something. 1205 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: We got nothing. We can play the sound if you want, 1206 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: but we got nothing to follow it up with. Yeah, 1207 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: it's all I have. I'm excited for this week. 1208 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Ty did you finally did you land on something cooking wise? 1209 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: For Thanksgiving, because you said Kate wasn't big on turkey, 1210 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 2: which is cool, not a lot of. I mean, if 1211 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 2: turkey were an exciting protein, people would be eating a 1212 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 2: year round, and they just don't. 1213 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I have tenderloin from Mama h that she cooked up 1214 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: and sent home with me. 1215 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 2: So what are you doing with it? Just putting on 1216 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 2: a plate with some gravy. 1217 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put her on a plate with some gravy. 1218 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I've got some of the fixens that Mama each sent 1219 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: home with me, and I've got like two pumpkin pies, 1220 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: two pumpkin pies which I was up to see her 1221 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and you would be a ghast if you saw 1222 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: how much pumpkin pie e. But I think that's my 1223 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: plan for Thanksgiving. I'm not really cooking anything special. 1224 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I listened to it in every with mel Kiper. He 1225 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 2: does not eat a pumpkin pie every day, but he 1226 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 2: does go through he said, two to three regularly size 1227 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 2: pumpkin pies a week. Only eats the filling, not eat 1228 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 2: the crust, only eats the filling, and goes through so 1229 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: much whipped cream that apparently, but I think it might 1230 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 2: be the low fat whipped cream. Right, I'm not positive, 1231 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,959 Speaker 2: but he's multi buying, like more than four cans a week. 1232 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: Wow at the grocery store. Is he buying pre made 1233 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: pumpkin pies or is he making them? 1234 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: He's pre made? He would never get anything done. How 1235 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 2: would he be able to say Jimmy Clausen is going 1236 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 2: to be a number four pick if he were always 1237 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 2: mashing up potato pure pumpkin Pierre? 1238 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Excuse? Can we get Kiper on the show just to 1239 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: talk about pumpkin pie? 1240 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,919 Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure we'll have him around draft time. 1241 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: I got questions that we need to ask as a 1242 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: fellow official. 1243 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 2: Extra nut meg? 1244 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah you think? 1245 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Do you think he's taking fresh nut meg and zesting 1246 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 2: it over? That'd be greats like seventeen zest poles scrapes. 1247 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: So are you doing, dude, whip cream? Do you do 1248 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: all the mode? 1249 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: What are you doing on the side with your turkey? 1250 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,959 Speaker 1: No? Well, I do do the I do the ready 1251 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 1: whip right, I'm sure, yeah, but no, I'll do I'll 1252 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: do gravy on the turkey tenderloin. I'll do some corn. 1253 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I'll do some sweet potatoes. Rice. Is this like a 1254 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: cream corn? Is it on the cob, no cut Yeah, 1255 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 1: on the cob, but cut off, so just the kernels 1256 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: on the cob, but on no. 1257 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Just so this is your you're you're having loose kernels. 1258 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 2: Loose kernels, correct, Okay, And then you said rice, Yeah. 1259 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: I'll do rice. Yeah, okay, how about you? Will Kate 1260 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: do the turkey tenderline? Kate won't do the turkey tenderline, 1261 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,439 Speaker 1: but she'll do everything else. I'll do the sides. Yeah, okay. 1262 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,959 Speaker 1: Do she do the pumpkin pie? She'll do the pumpkin pie? 1263 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 2: Will you eat the pumpkin pie? Will watching football? You're 1264 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 2: gonna watch like the Mandalorian? What's the plan for after dinner? 1265 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a good question. It's a 1266 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: matter of how much mile did we get out of 1267 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the pumpkin pie? Because she's gonna want something I'm not 1268 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna want to share. That's gonna be a problem, that's 1269 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a stress. Like you said, you have multiple pies. 1270 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 1: I know, but that's that's probably why when we ahe 1271 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: sent home multiple pies to make sure. 1272 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Do you do morning after pie for breakfast? 1273 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I am I am not discriminating time when it comes 1274 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: to pumpkin pie. I will eat it. 1275 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 2: Meal names are fair or just a construct pat Hill 1276 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 2: anytime anywhere? 1277 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Give me the punpe I like that, Yeah, allegedly by you. 1278 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm still doing the Cajun Rachel's So I'm making a 1279 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Cajun turkey breast, slicing that up. I have a Remolode 1280 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 2: slaw with some Swiss and some pickles on some buttered 1281 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 2: sour dough. I'm making a cheesy broccoli cast role. I'm 1282 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 2: gonna do some stuffing or dressing, depending on where you 1283 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: are in the country. And I'm making a brown betty. 1284 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 2: It's sort of like an apple crumble cobbler type thing. 1285 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Sounds very excited for it. Are you going to post 1286 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: pictures on our social media? Yeah? 1287 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Why not, absolutely, I'm looking forward to it. It's basically 1288 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 2: all happening ahead of time because I'm not sure exactly 1289 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 2: the mechanics of you know, where we're going to be 1290 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 2: and how what time we're going to be, because I 1291 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 2: think it's just you know, the two and a half 1292 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 2: of us that are going to be eating here, but 1293 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 2: you know, got family in the area drive by, say 1294 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 2: hi kind of thing. 1295 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: So cool. 1296 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 2: That's what's up. That's what's going on. I'm looking forward 1297 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: to it. 1298 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: So look, wherever you may be, we wish you and 1299 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: yours a wonderful Thanksgiving. A bit of an odd year, 1300 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: but hopefully we get some pictures of folks safely deep 1301 01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: frying their turkeys in the middle of us. 1302 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 2: Yes, not frozen. Are you drinking during Thanksgiving? 1303 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: Not usually? No, No, because you're already so stuffed that 1304 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: to throw alcohol on top of that, it's like not 1305 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: a yeah. 1306 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Well, especially if it's like a micro Thanksgiving for a 1307 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 2: lot of people with just like two, three, four people 1308 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 2: or whatever. No, that's that's that's a little trickier. You know, 1309 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 2: you don't have to drown out the weird in law 1310 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 2: conversations like one normally might have to if you especially 1311 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 2: live in a cold weather place. I if you need 1312 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 2: to do that, Google and I made this mistake slash 1313 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 2: incredible discovery a few years ago. 1314 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 1: Nor Easter Nor Easter. 1315 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 2: In terms of a cocktail that you can make in 1316 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 2: a giant picture that'll mess everybody up. It's gonna mess 1317 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 2: everybody up, and it actually feels pretty Thanksgiving. It's like 1318 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 2: a ginger maple bourbon situation. Ginger maple bourbon situation, very 1319 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 2: autumnal autumn, good drunkenness, good word. 1320 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's it. 1321 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 2: That's everything I have. Sorry I kept jumping with more. 1322 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Everybody, Stay safe out there, enjoy your holiday weekend. We will. 1323 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: I'll be back on Black Friday with a usual bit 1324 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: of Friday podcastory. But until then, stay safe, whether you're 1325 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: at home or out there on the roads. We wish 1326 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: you all nothing but the best. We'll talk to you soon. 1327 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: In meantime, but that guy over there, my good friend 1328 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself to Hildebrand, I'll talk to you 1329 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,679 Speaker 1: all in a few days. Happy Thanksgiving. Peace. 1330 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 2: Can you play the November sound because I think it 1331 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: ends in gobble gobble gobble. 1332 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: I think it does. Oh, it's in the beginning and 1333 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 1: at the end. It's not bad or lenotic. It's pretty good.