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Speaker 1: Us a fresh show. It's Kiki's Court.

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Speaker 2: All right, son, Kiy King, All rise, the honorable Judge

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Speaker 2: Kiky is here.

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Speaker 1: Take it away please, all right, let's.

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Speaker 3: Get into the courtroom, it says, hey, Kei key. My

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Speaker 3: husband and I relocated with our kids to the Northwest

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Speaker 3: Suburbs about two years ago. Since our move, we've gotten

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Speaker 3: with small kids like us, and we have a lot

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Speaker 3: in common. Two weeks ago, my husband and I took

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Speaker 3: our kids to Disney World for our summer vacation. While

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Speaker 3: we were gone, we had a contractor working in our

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Speaker 3: home to renovate our kitchen. This particular contractor came highly

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Speaker 3: recommended by our neighbors, so we trusted that everything would

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Speaker 3: be fine while we were gone. Well, I noticed on

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Speaker 3: my ring camera that my neighbor's wife kept coming over

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Speaker 3: to my house during the middle of the day. I

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Speaker 3: keeping an eye on the contractor. Well, to my husband

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Speaker 3: camera of her and the contractor making out and talking

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Speaker 3: about hooking up again.

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Speaker 1: We were shook.

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Speaker 3: Now, my husband wants to send the footage to her husband,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to ruin their marriage, especially for

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Speaker 3: their kids. My husband has his mind made up, so

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Speaker 3: is he wrong if he reveals this information to her husband?

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Speaker 1: Humm, oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Well your cats to be more careful. Okay, Well what

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Speaker 3: do you Thinkkiki? Well, I think that you know. Usually

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Speaker 3: I say stay out of marry people's business. We don't

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Speaker 3: know what they're set up is. However, in this case,

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Speaker 3: if you're hooking up with the contractor at my house

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Speaker 3: while your husband is at work, and you're so sloppy

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Speaker 3: canoodling with this man, I'm absolutely telling I'm absolutely sitting

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Speaker 3: the footage over to you. I'll put you and your

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Speaker 3: husband in a group text say hey, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on, but this is what my ring camera caught.

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Speaker 3: Just want to put it out there because my husband

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Speaker 3: and I are not going to be guilty with you

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Speaker 3: exactly is the prime YEA, So no, girl, you you

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Speaker 3: put in a fresh out constitution. You have to cheat responsibly.

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Speaker 3: This is not cheating responsibly. This is sloppy and a mess.

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Speaker 3: So girl, whatever, happens, happens, but I would definitely let

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Speaker 3: my husband reveal the information because I would want somebody

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Speaker 3: to tell me.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, same.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm really, like truly weighing this because I

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Speaker 2: tend to want to stay out of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I tend to want to stay out of the cheating stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know, Like I don't know again,

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Speaker 2: Like what if there's a arrangement there, like you.

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Speaker 1: Sat all damn.

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Speaker 4: This all arrangement I've never heard of before, never seen

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Speaker 4: one before, but I keep hearing about it.

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Speaker 2: Fred, Okay, we you know what I'm about to prove

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Speaker 2: you on right this second. Because the fact that you

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Speaker 2: you claim to not have heard about married people who

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Speaker 2: also hook up with other people, and it's condoned eight five.

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Speaker 2: It's called non monogamy, and it happens all the time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fair, it does, but in my home when the

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Speaker 4: guy's supposed to be working, right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: People get freaky.

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Speaker 2: They get freaky in model homes, they get people trying

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Speaker 2: to get it in wherever they can get it in. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the real question here is not about nominogamy. It's

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Speaker 2: simply if you know someone's cheating. Do you tell? Do

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Speaker 3: I have to I have to get involved this time.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't want somebody to tell you, say, you're the

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Speaker 3: hard working husband at work doing your radio show, nobody

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean at this point, somebody probably I don't

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Speaker 2: mean they can't hear my show. Please, someone's sleeping with

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Speaker 2: my non wife. It's probably the guy who should be

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Speaker 1: You're so mad, I think you do.

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Speaker 2: I think the reason we're off the air half the

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I oh, man, I just

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Speaker 1: I would. I would want to know. I would, I would.

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Speaker 2: I just tend to want to stay out of people's

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Speaker 2: like trying to do the right thing and tell you

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Speaker 2: a liar. But I guess in this case there's there's proof.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want this stuff to blow up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you guys are all saying definitively,

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Speaker 2: if you know that your neighbor's wife is cheating, you're

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Speaker 3: And see, you make it sound very simple and cut

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Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't say anything. But you're cheating in my

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Speaker 3: doing a job. I have to blow this up because why,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the disrespect.

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Speaker 1: I think I get it.

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Speaker 2: I think if anything, I start with her, I start

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Speaker 1: A couple years ago.

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Speaker 2: My mom had a friend and who came to her

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Speaker 2: these people that I like, the husband is having an affair.

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Speaker 2: I know it, but I don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: And then you know, in the back of it, even.

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Speaker 2: Though you were doing the right thing, you still ruined

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Speaker 2: go hey, look, and in this case go to her

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Speaker 2: be like, I have this footage. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Don't do this stuff in my life house whatever you're doing.

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Speaker 2: And second of all, I don't know if it's condoned

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Speaker 1: I need you to what.

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Speaker 2: I need an explanation from you, and I need to

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Speaker 2: know that he either knows or he's gonna know, or

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell him because I need you to handle

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Speaker 2: your business or I'm gonna tell him, because why do

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Speaker 2: I have to look this guy in the eye every

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Speaker 2: That's an unfair burden you're putting on me, and you're

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Speaker 2: doing it at my house.

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask for that. Handle it. Hm.

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Speaker 3: Then what if she doesn't handle it, because I don't

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Speaker 3: know many cheaters that would handle.

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Speaker 1: It, then then maybe you have to handle it. You

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Speaker 1: have a time limit, I'd say you, actually by next week.

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Speaker 2: I need you to do something about this. I need

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Speaker 2: knows or whatever you're going to do, end it whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like ultimately that's what you gotta do, right.

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Speaker 4: What about you know when we get into relationships, people

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Speaker 4: usually like well, well back in the day used to

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Speaker 4: put like on Facebook in a relationship, right, so you

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Speaker 4: kind you have a new man or now you just

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Speaker 4: like post him or post her your new girlfriend. And

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Speaker 4: why can't people who do this then let us know,

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Speaker 4: like we are in an open marriage. This is all

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Speaker 4: be avoided because then I would know, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, it's all in the open. Am I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm no id all this, but.

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Speaker 2: I think that's this woman probably doesn't know that she

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Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable with it, first of all, with the fact

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Speaker 2: that I now know this, that would be the chance

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Speaker 2: for her to go, well, I'm actually in an open situation,

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Speaker 2: and that could be a lie.

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Speaker 1: But then at least, hey, you did your part.

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Speaker 3: But you open in my house right way exactly my hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: hooking up you in my new kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's the thing. Yeah, you want to

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Speaker 2: of me. I had another friend that his co worker.

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Speaker 2: They traveled together for work. His coworker was actively cheating

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Speaker 2: don't know what your situation is. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: with the knowledge of this. Yeah, but don't do it

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Speaker 2: in front of me. Like, if you want to do it,

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Speaker 2: then you need to be more discreet because you're involving me.

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Speaker 2: I'm now culpable. I am watching you do this. I

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Speaker 2: know it's happening. And then I go to dinner with

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Speaker 2: and that you are cheating, and then she finds out

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Speaker 2: that the whole time I knew. Well, now, somehow I'm

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Speaker 2: a jackass and I didn't even do it. So, like,

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Speaker 2: you need to be less sloppy, honestly, right, I think

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Speaker 2: that's fair to say. I think that's how you handle it.

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Speaker 2: You go to the source and say you fix this

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Speaker 2: or I will because it's messed up. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to have to be involved with with your shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: Hey kJ, good morning, good morning, how are you kJ? Great?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for attempting to listen to this whatever we're doing.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? So?

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Speaker 5: I think kind of like what you guys, should I

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Speaker 5: think so, why should confront her and be like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I kind of caught this, but kind of give an

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Speaker 5: ultimatum and be like, either you tell him or we're

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Speaker 5: sending this over to him, because I think it's so

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Speaker 5: messed up that she did this in their house and

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Speaker 5: they recommended.

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Speaker 2: The contractor Yeah, and something tells me that this is

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Speaker 2: not one of those non monogamous situations, because I don't

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Speaker 2: know why you're sneaking around in your neighbor's house. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if this is a situation where it's sanctioned in your marriage,

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Speaker 2: you can look up other people that I don't know

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Speaker 1: But you're sneaking around in my house.

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Speaker 6: I think she should give her like a week, be

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Speaker 6: send that over to the husband.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like that, kid, Jay, Thank you, have a good day,

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Speaker 2: brook Brook, You're you're voting not a monogamous here. You

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Speaker 7: So no, I'm saying that if you are nominal domists

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let me be clear. I want to know

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Speaker 2: more about you, Brooks. So you're married, I am. You're married,

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Speaker 2: and you hook up with other men women? Both everything?

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Speaker 7: So I'm married and I also have a long term partner.

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Speaker 7: My husband also has a long term partner, and we

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, And so you've had people in your life

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Speaker 2: Yes see I get that because there's still a stigma.

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Speaker 7: Many more people are now monogamous than you think they are.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I never will. But what I'm

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Speaker 2: My point is it's happening everywhere. It's just not I

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Speaker 2: I think people are afraid to be judged. I can

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Speaker 1: Go about it? Yeah, we don't judge. Just so you know. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just a little jealous. I'm not part of it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Brooky. I can't be. I'm just sounds like

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Speaker 4: Like I don't even have time to like wash my

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Hook up multile people. You should watch you, but watch it.

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Speaker 2: You should wash your button because you watch her, But no,

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Speaker 2: I do too. I'm thinking she probably does I don't

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Speaker 2: I can't do it, Like I've even hated people who

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there's nothing wrong with it, Like, if

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Speaker 2: But for me, even if it's a one time deal

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Speaker 2: have to be sort of just mixing everybody's stuff to go?

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't for me, but it's it's just because that's

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Speaker 2: not within my comfort level.

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Speaker 1: But I don't judge anybody who does it.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that I think that's what's going

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Good morning, I don't have the famous day

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Speaker 8: hab going on. But yes, my husband and I participate

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Speaker 9: Like it's completely consensual. We use protection. You know, we're

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Speaker 9: not trying to have a baby or anything. I can't

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Speaker 9: have baby, so it would be fine if we weren't

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Speaker 9: using condoms, but you know, studs and the like. But no,

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Speaker 9: it's totally fine, Like it works for us. He thinks

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Speaker 9: we'll just go at it again like rabbits. And I'm

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Speaker 9: sorry that you guys don't feel like that's on the

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Speaker 9: not for everyone, and that's fine ing anyone who doesn't

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Speaker 9: like it. It's just you know, I don't like that

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Speaker 9: they're sleeping in the neighbor's kitchen. I'll give you that, right,

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Speaker 9: you know, at least I do it in my own

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Speaker 2: Well, let me let me just be I'm sorrying to you,

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Speaker 2: just to be clear on one thing before Kiki talks.

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Speaker 2: No one here thinks it's not on the up and up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on the up and up

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Speaker 2: this doesn't sound like a situation where everything is transparent.

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Speaker 2: But again, if that's what you want to do, and

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Speaker 2: on the same page, everyone feels good about it, well

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Speaker 2: then do it. Like by all means, but it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: work for me. I think I'm just too jealous and

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Speaker 2: I think too much, Like it wouldn't turn me on

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Speaker 2: if I'm dating you, Jessica, it is the exact opposite.

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Speaker 1: Of a turn on. He's running out of here.

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Speaker 2: My main part will retract into my body. If you're like, oh,

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Speaker 9: Like for me, it's so dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I am no, Jessica, Like, I just I

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Speaker 2: And in fact, the crazy thing is, I think in

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Speaker 2: other and their proclivities. They find a way to fulfill

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Speaker 1: That, then.

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Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, drop Jessica dropped the mic. She's like, that's it. Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Have a good day you too.

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Speaker 2: Uh see, look we got Marissa. Hi, Marissa, how you

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Speaker 2: doing good? How are you Marissa? Good morning. So just

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Speaker 2: to recap here in Keiki's court and make sure I

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Speaker 2: get this right, there's a woman who's having work done

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think Fred, it's it's two separate things here,

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Speaker 6: because I understand your point of not wanting to get

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Speaker 6: type of arrangement like this, keep it in your own house.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

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Speaker 6: I'm a person that I'm paying to get my work done.

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Speaker 6: But also going back to the point, I don't think

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Speaker 6: And if you don't tell them by this point, then

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Speaker 6: I'm going to tell them because they deserve to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think because of that situation, you got to go

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Speaker 2: Marisa, I like the strategy. I think, Kiki you like

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you have proof.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, I just I think you're

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And in addition, I don't care why you're doing it.

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Speaker 6: I don't need to know.

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Speaker 9: That's not my business, but.

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Speaker 6: You need to know let other people know, and that

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Speaker 6: you're hurting other people involved because of what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: So knock it off and go to the person own it.

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Speaker 8: And move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if you tell me one thing, why do

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Speaker 2: I have to live with your you know, infidelity? Why

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Speaker 6: That's what happened to me. Unfortunately, like this situation unfortunately

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Speaker 6: I was like, you can't put that on me with

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Speaker 6: the same because that's family versus neighborly, but still you

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Thank you, Marissa. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: a good day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you too. Case closed. Another situation was

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Speaker 2: alf Tiki you did it?

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I love how people are like man, I'm impressed with

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Speaker 2: your advice for once. Frett I am right way more

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to admit it, but eighty twenty that's

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