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Speaker 1: What Is Up? Mets fans, welcome back to a special

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Speaker 1: third episode this week. We haven't done this in a

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Speaker 1: while of the Mets Up Podcast. Appreciate you guys tuning

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Speaker 1: in for this one. We are now going to be

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Speaker 1: going to a three episode per week schedule, so this

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Speaker 1: is something you can.

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Speaker 2: Be accustomed to during the season.

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Speaker 1: During the season, there's something you can be accustomed to

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Speaker 1: get ready for for the rest of the regular season,

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Speaker 1: including the postseas as long as the Mets are there,

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Speaker 1: when they're there, whatever it is, Well, we have a

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Speaker 1: big one for you guys today. We didn't do the

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Speaker 1: Phillies preview in the last episode. That's because we're doing

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Speaker 1: it on today's episode with a special guest. Rubin Tomorrow Junior,

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Speaker 1: former first base coach for the Mets, worked in the

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Speaker 1: front office, was a Phillies GM outfielder. Baseball life.

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Speaker 2: That's all you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Big Phillies Guy and the host of the Phillies show

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Speaker 1: over on the Foul Territory Network as well, so we

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Speaker 1: have him on. Could talk to him for about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing interview, amazing conversation with him. Big

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Speaker 1: Baseball Guy as always and anything else in particular before

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Speaker 1: we just kind of ripped this one here.

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Speaker 2: I mean give the name intro Spel even though the

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Speaker 2: third episode of the week.

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Speaker 1: True, I guess because it's the third episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little thrown off. I think it's a little just

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Speaker 2: too much fun.

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Speaker 1: A little too much fun here. But you guys know

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Speaker 1: lot of people listening on overcast. Shout out to you

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Speaker 1: really does help us out, all right, James. I mean

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Speaker 1: feeling what's going on that third again, third episode, it

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Speaker 2: I only this feels it just feels a little abnormal

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Speaker 2: for us for now, because usually we just like to

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Speaker 2: much anyway that all the conversations keep flowing. But now

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Speaker 2: the fact that we have a third sanctioned episode, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get creative and do some fun stuff for you

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Speaker 2: guys and gonna again talk about the Creamploy. I told

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Speaker 2: a little different kind of prospect of port him to

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Speaker 2: keep down with surprise, and we're gonna end with the

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Speaker 2: Phillies proven Ruber tomorrow. But first off, I want to

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Speaker 2: give a note to Ed Cranepoole. The Mets family lost

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Speaker 2: one of its most valuable members this week and just

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Speaker 2: really sad that Cranepole passed away. He is He is

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Speaker 2: the epitome of the Mets. He is the forever Met.

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Speaker 2: We a lot of times will pipe in the classic

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Speaker 2: Donald Grecor rant from years ago, by that Crane again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Crane Poole, Ed crane Pool, that's your guy.

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Speaker 2: But Ed is Ed and by the everything it meant

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Speaker 2: to be a Met. He plays entire career at the Mets.

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Speaker 2: He appeared in his first game with the Mets in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two, in their first season, when he was

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Speaker 2: He is. He is the Mets for an entire generation

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's not many people in the history

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Speaker 2: He was the only member of both the Mets nineteen

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Speaker 2: funny thing Fred Cremple is that he came to the

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Speaker 2: He never got to that point of his potential. But

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Speaker 2: And with that, ads also second all time the Mets

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Speaker 1: had a great major league career. How many people would

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Speaker 2: I've heard some of the pitchers who played with him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they've gone through a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of bizarre. I mean you start thinking about,

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Speaker 3: the NLCS in a way that they probably felt they

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Speaker 3: should have won. They also had an opportunity to win

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Speaker 3: the World Series against Houston a couple of years back,

435
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Speaker 3: when they you know, they couldn't get past their pitching,

436
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Speaker 3: and you know, I think that they're in a position

437
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Speaker 3: right now where their their mindset is, uh, you know,

438
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Speaker 3: World Series or bust. And so it has been strange,

439
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Speaker 3: but I'm not surprised by the just overall diligence that

440
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Speaker 3: these guys have gone through because Rob Thompson, I feel,

441
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Speaker 3: is one of the best managers in baseball. I think

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Speaker 3: he handles things extremely well. I think he handles the

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Speaker 3: day to day operation of the team really well. And

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Speaker 3: it's you know, right now, I think it's more about

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Speaker 3: managing their health and making sure that they're ready to

446
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Speaker 3: go and at one hundred percent health wise as they

447
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Speaker 3: get closer and closer to the end of September.

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Speaker 1: When you're looking at this Phillis roster, a lot of

449
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Speaker 1: huge names on their Harper Trade, Turner, Aaron Nola, Zach Wheeler,

450
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Speaker 1: who's maybe a little bit of an under the radar

451
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Speaker 1: surprising player that Mets fan should keep an eye out

452
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Speaker 1: for this series.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Castianos has been just phenomenal. He had

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Speaker 3: a very poor start to the season and he has

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Speaker 3: to me he's really carried him. I think he and

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Speaker 3: Bryson Scott has actually picked it up as well. I

457
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Speaker 3: think those are two guys for me that have been

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Speaker 3: really impressivearticularly on the offensive side. I think Casianos's last

459
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Speaker 3: you know, a couple of two and a half months,

460
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Speaker 3: I mean, when everybody else was going south, he was still, uh,

461
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Speaker 3: he was producing and picking him up, and he sort

462
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Speaker 3: of saved them through that one period. And he continues

463
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Speaker 3: to do well, and you know, there was some point

464
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Speaker 3: you know, he's had his ups and downs with the Phillies,

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Speaker 3: but he also you know, you look back at the

466
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Speaker 3: numbers and he's one of the most productive right and

467
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Speaker 3: editors in the National League over the last like eight

468
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Speaker 3: to ten years. So he's starting to get close to

469
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Speaker 3: those numbers now and he's been pretty productive. Bryson Stott

470
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Speaker 3: putting together a much better series of at bats these days.

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Speaker 3: Last year he was phenomenal with two strikes. This year

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Speaker 3: in the early part of the season, just wasn't having

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Speaker 3: the kind of quality of a bats that you would

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Speaker 3: think that he, you know, a guy like that would

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Speaker 3: have you would think that he would have progressed a

476
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Speaker 3: little bit better. But now he's starting to come around.

477
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Speaker 3: So he's an interesting guy, and I think one of

478
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Speaker 3: the guys that is sort of under the radar a

479
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Speaker 3: little bit for the Phillies in the bullpen is Oryan Kirkering,

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Speaker 3: who's actually been really really good lately. Man, he's been

481
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Speaker 3: throwing the ball. Yeah, he's been there, and I think

482
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Speaker 3: he's he's you know, he was relying on that sweeper,

483
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Speaker 3: slider whatever you want to call it, for like almost

484
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Speaker 3: every pitch. And I think he's gotten to the point

485
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Speaker 3: now where he can throw a four seemer and is

486
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Speaker 3: a sinker at times with a lot more conviction and confidence.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the reasons why you're

488
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Speaker 3: seeing such I mean, the bullpen has really picked it

489
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Speaker 3: up lately, but he's been he's been particularly good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that Philly bullpen's amazing what they've been able to

491
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Speaker 2: do that in a short period of time, something that

492
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Speaker 2: was a true weakness for them even two years ago

493
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Speaker 2: now probably is one of the best, I think in

494
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Speaker 2: the entire field in National League. Also, super Happy brought

495
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Speaker 2: up Bryson Stocks. I know that Mark loves Bryson Stock

496
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Speaker 2: one of his one of his favorit plays in League

497
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Speaker 2: one's favorite players to watch play. But you mentioned Castanos.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us, can you tell our listeners, What

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Speaker 2: exactly happened between Nick Castianos and raised reliever current closer

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Speaker 2: Edwin you said on Wednesday, because there was a very

501
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Speaker 2: tense situation, seemingly a couple a couple of mistruths told

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Speaker 2: by you said, and possibly some people on the raids

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Speaker 2: as well. You still people in on that drama.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously, I mean I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: have any issue with guys like sending a message. You know,

506
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Speaker 3: if somebody's hot, you know you we'll pitch up and in.

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Speaker 3: In this day and age, I think the pictures have

508
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Speaker 3: a much more difficult time of really commanding their stuff.

509
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Speaker 3: But in this situation, I think, who said, who's had

510
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Speaker 3: a phenomenal year. He's but he's pitching extremely well, and

511
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Speaker 3: the Phillies beat him up. I mean the they whacked

512
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Speaker 3: him around pretty well and home run double, and then

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Speaker 3: he was scotten to the point where he was really frustrated,

514
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Speaker 3: and I think he literally just because he was pissed off,

515
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Speaker 3: he just threw it and and that and that to

516
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Speaker 3: me is, uh, that's pretty egregious. And I think that

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Speaker 3: the Phillies let that be known openly. I mean after afterwards,

518
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Speaker 3: you know, I think I think you said usaid something

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Speaker 3: like that that was a change up or something that

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Speaker 3: at a bunch of bullshit that wasn't ninety six mile

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Speaker 3: hour change ups.

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Speaker 2: So I saw today that was the fastest pitch of

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Speaker 2: his entire career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so he's full of shit. I mean he

525
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Speaker 3: he literally he literally just threw at him and you know,

526
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Speaker 3: unrightfully got suspended. I mean that there's one thing to

527
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Speaker 3: send a message, just another thing entirely to act like

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Speaker 3: a child, which is what he did. And it's dangerous

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Speaker 3: in this day and age. I mean, especially for a

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Speaker 3: team who was trying to contend, and especially for a

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Speaker 3: guy's health when they're throwing the ball, you know, anywhere

532
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Speaker 3: from ninety five to one hundred miles an hour. There's

533
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Speaker 3: danger there, especially when when most guys cannot really command.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I've been plunked before. I mean I

535
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Speaker 3: remember in spring training one time I try to bunt

536
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Speaker 3: on Burt brought bly Levin in an inner squad game.

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Speaker 3: The next time he smokes me right on my ass,

538
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know so, and he's like, hey, rookie,

539
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Speaker 3: you're not button on me in a spring training game.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, Okay, I get the message, I get it,

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Speaker 3: and and you sort of under have an understanding about

542
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Speaker 3: those things. But that's not like that much these days,

543
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Speaker 3: and in this situation, I think it was pretty egregious.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I think that something like that can

545
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Speaker 1: almost like awaken the sleeping giant a little bit with

546
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Speaker 1: the Phillies, where that's going to be something that unites

547
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Speaker 1: them a little bit, gets them a little bit more

548
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Speaker 1: fired up. As a Mets fan, I'm really hoping it doesn't.

549
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Speaker 1: But what do you think you've been a little closer than.

550
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Speaker 3: Us to them? Well, I think it's a pretty it's

551
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: a really tight unit as it is, but all those

552
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Speaker 3: kinds of things, like when people are backing each other

553
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Speaker 3: and you have that sort of camaraderie on your team

554
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Speaker 3: where guys like literally like each other. I mean, these guys,

555
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Speaker 3: it's one of those clubhouses. And I've been I've been

556
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Speaker 3: around really good ones and I've been around really crappy ones,

557
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Speaker 3: and I will tell you that these guys really genuinely

558
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Speaker 3: care for each other and pull for each other and

559
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Speaker 3: hope that they play well together because they have one goal.

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Speaker 3: And that's a hard thing to do, and it doesn't

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Speaker 3: happen all that often. You know, there's there for years

562
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Speaker 3: and years and years, you had like twenty five players,

563
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Speaker 3: twenty five caps. You know, that's what that was sort

564
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Speaker 3: of like the discussion. But I think there is a

565
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Speaker 3: camaraderie amongst this team and there is a mutual respect

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Speaker 3: in this team that's pretty special, and I think that

567
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Speaker 3: that's not something I mean, I think it was sort

568
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Speaker 3: of created by some of the players, but it was

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Speaker 3: also created by the front office and Rob Thompson and

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Speaker 3: his staff, and I think they all deserve a lot

571
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Speaker 3: of credit for that, because when you think about it,

572
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Speaker 3: only the guys that are like home grown are not

573
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Speaker 3: the big boys. They brought a lot of these guys

574
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Speaker 3: from outside. So j t was from outside, who's a

575
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Speaker 3: big leader. Schwarber came from outside, is a huge leader.

576
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Speaker 3: Harper came from outside. I mean, you talk about all

577
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Speaker 3: free agents and that doesn't happen all that often. When

578
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Speaker 3: even Trey Turner obviously, that doesn't happen all that often.

579
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Speaker 3: When you have all these free agents coming in and

580
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Speaker 3: you have this sort of bond, it usually comes from

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Speaker 3: like the core guys. You know, for us, it was

582
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Speaker 3: you know, Rollin's Hutley Howard, who were all homegrown guys,

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Speaker 3: and Chooch who was the catcher. Those were sort of

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Speaker 3: the core guys. And typically the core guys that you

585
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Speaker 3: have are home grown, but in this case it's not,

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Speaker 3: and it's pretty unique.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will so much craly I feel like has

588
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Speaker 2: to be given to both Thompson, Dombrowski and his staff

589
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Speaker 2: for building this team because the names you just said

590
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Speaker 2: are more or less an all star team of the

591
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Speaker 2: last five years of baseball. And then to be able

592
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Speaker 2: to fill in the rest of this roster with boem

593
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Speaker 2: Stot enough homegrown guys and then the little pieces of

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Speaker 2: rotation between Sanchez, how good he's been, all these bullpen

595
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Speaker 2: guys are mentioned, Jeff Hoffman out of nowhere like this

596
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Speaker 2: is all. It's really probably top to bottom right now,

597
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Speaker 2: the strongest team in baseball. So this Phillies team again

598
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Speaker 2: three years in a row, doesn't win at all, can't

599
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Speaker 2: climb the mountain. What could possibly hold them back? What

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Speaker 2: would have gone wrong?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I always feel like when you get in the proseason, man,

602
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Speaker 3: you have to have a lot of luck, I mean,

603
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Speaker 3: and you have to and you have to be playing well.

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Speaker 3: And I think pitching has a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to get the guys to to

606
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Speaker 3: eat up innings, the starters to eat up innings, and

607
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Speaker 3: they have to be able to perform and listen. It's

608
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Speaker 3: not easy. I remember, you know, in nine, ten and eleven,

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Speaker 3: I thought we had every bit as good a ball

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Speaker 3: club and as there wasn't baseball when I was in

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Speaker 3: the GM post, but we just could not get over

612
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Speaker 3: the hump. We kept losing, you know, in the series

613
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Speaker 3: because we just didn't play well enough at the time.

614
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Speaker 3: And so I think it's about one luck. I think

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Speaker 3: it's two health. I think it's three being able to execute.

616
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Speaker 3: I think execution is a huge one. Like if you

617
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Speaker 3: everybody gain plans nowadays, and everybody has brilliant people game planning,

618
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Speaker 3: and we know how to get this guy out, and

619
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Speaker 3: we know how when he swings, and we know his

620
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: hot zones and his you know, cold zones and all

621
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Speaker 3: that stuff. It's really about whether your team executes better

622
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Speaker 3: than the other team. And if you can do that,

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Speaker 3: you got a chance. I mean, as long as you're

624
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Speaker 3: in the tournament, man, you got a chance. You've got

625
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Speaker 3: a chance to do some damage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

627
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Speaker 2: No, it's Phillies will be there.

628
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Speaker 1: Definitely gonna be uh, definitely gonna be in the playoffs

629
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Speaker 1: and have had some success, like you said, looking at

630
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Speaker 1: their rotation two going forward in the postseason. You have Wheeler,

631
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Speaker 1: you have Nola. Those guys are gonna be pitching your

632
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: first two games of this series. Who's your number three

633
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: starter for the Phillies right now? Are you going Sanchez?

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Speaker 1: You're going Suarez?

635
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Speaker 3: So for me right now, by the way, Sanchez is

636
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Speaker 3: pitching a Sanchez. As Suarez looks, his stuff is not

637
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Speaker 3: as sharp as it has been and I'm not sure

638
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: what's going on except his last couple of outings while

639
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: he's thrown, Okay, he's just leaving a lot of pitches.

640
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Speaker 3: His sharpness is not nearly where it was in the

641
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Speaker 3: first couple of months of the season. And so I'm

642
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: not sure when they're gonna need that fourth guy, but

643
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Speaker 3: they may put that guy in the bullpen. I mean,

644
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Speaker 3: Suarez has been outstanding in the in the bullpen in

645
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Speaker 3: the past. You see his numbers are like extraordinary in

646
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Speaker 3: the playoffs because he doesn't he's not very foul. I mean,

647
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Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that doesn't doesn't get real rattled,

648
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Speaker 3: Like he's just very very good in those precious situations.

649
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Speaker 3: So he may be. I see them as the top

650
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: three going Sant Wheeler, Nola, Sanchez, But I mean again,

651
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: it all kind of depends if if Suarez really tightens

652
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: up and sharpens up over the next couple of starts

653
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: as he gets we get closer and closer to the

654
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Speaker 3: end of the season, you may see those guys flip flop.

655
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Speaker 2: That's interesting, especially given the way they started. But Sanchez

656
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: has been so good especially.

657
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Speaker 3: He's been fantastic, and his stuff is getting better and better.

658
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean he's starting a game. You know, last year

659
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: he was averaging I think his fastball sinker whatever was

660
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: like ninety two to ninety three. Now he's averaging the

661
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: ninety four to ninety six mile an hour fastball and

662
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: is starting to command it. It's the development of that

663
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: player is like one of the most amazing things I've

664
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Speaker 3: ever seen.

665
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Speaker 2: And the change the best.

666
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: He's got a great change up, and there are times

667
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: when he loses his feel for and he cuts it

668
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: and does different things to it. But but just the

669
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: overall development of that player at the major league level.

670
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Speaker 3: To see where he was when he first got to

671
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Speaker 3: the big leagues and where he is now is just

672
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: it's astonishing, and it's really a great story. And of

673
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: the credit to you know, the pitching guys, Caleb Cotham

674
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: and Brian Kaplan and there's a whole bunch of guys

675
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: that touched him and to him personally, because he really

676
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: wanted to make himself a better pitcher and you got

677
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: to take, you know, the dedication of being able to

678
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Speaker 3: do that, and for him to have done that's pretty cool.

679
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Speaker 2: Ruber're gonna get you out here in two minutes. I

680
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Speaker 2: want to ask you two quick questions, just specifically about

681
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Speaker 2: the Mets. One, we know you're an old school guy.

682
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Do you think that designate hitter should win the MVP Award?

683
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Speaker 3: You know, I would not have said I would Set

684
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Speaker 3: would have said no. I do think Lindor's had an

685
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: extraordinary season, and probably if you take Lindor off that

686
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: ball club, clearly that Mets team goes nowhere. I have

687
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: to say though, that with what Otani has done, the

688
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: extraordinary numbers he's put up, you think about all the

689
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: guys that they've lost, and then a lot of issues

690
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: they've had as well, and had they had that Tani

691
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: not been on that ball club with Mookie Betts down

692
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: and month Seal and a whole bunch of guys out

693
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: of there, they probably would not be where they are today.

694
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's I think it's a great argument because

695
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: Lindor is such a special overall talent and has had

696
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Speaker 3: such a phenomenal season. It's a tough call, man, but

697
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Speaker 3: I I guess I have just because of the extraordinary

698
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: levels of numbers that I think Otani's put up and

699
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: the fact that he had he been off that ball club,

700
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: that team would have been, you know, would have been

701
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: sinking to especially with the way Padres are playing and such.

702
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: I just feel like I think I've got Otani on

703
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: a slight edge over him, man, And typically I would not,

704
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: but he's been just so extraordinary, man, it's just hard

705
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: to it's hard to look away from it.

706
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Speaker 1: It's good for the Mets Phillies' rivalry too. Pick Yeah.

707
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: And then the last thing, of course, you were there

708
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. You gotta talk about Jacob Degram. He's

709
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: coming back this weekend for the Rangers. Obviously not part

710
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: of the Mets anymore, but we still think about him

711
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: every single day. You got to see maybe one of

712
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: the greatest pitching seasons of all time in twenty eighteen

713
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: when you were a part of the organization. What was that? Like?

714
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: How locked in was that guy?

715
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? He was pretty extraordinary, There's no question about it.

716
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: And in fact, you know, I talk about this a lot,

717
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure whether he was being pushed or

718
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: there was. There were so many good pitchers in that

719
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: rotation and not everybody performed. But if you guys remember,

720
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler ended up having a phenomenal second half of

721
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: that season, and like it was almost like start for start,

722
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: like who's better and he was like under the radar

723
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there watching him, going, well, the Gram's

724
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: having a ridiculous season, but this other guy, he's really

725
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: really good too, so and it was like, I don't

726
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: I have to go back and look at the numbers.

727
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: But it just seemed like Zach Wheeler took his game

728
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: to the next level at that point, and that's where

729
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: he became Zach Wheeler in my opinion, And I think

730
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: that him sort of competing with with the Gram, I

731
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: think that had a lot to do with it. And so,

732
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Speaker 3: I you know, it was just a cool thing to watch.

733
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Speaker 3: I mean, the Graham obviously one of the more dominating

734
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: two pitch pitchers I've ever seen. The only thing that

735
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: my issue with with with the gram obviously is the

736
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: fact that he just doesn't stay healthy and he doesn't

737
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: and he doesn't, you know, pitch with a lot of length.

738
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's, you know, five to six inning pitcher

739
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: you'd like to see. And I know it's probably because

740
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: he's because this stuff's so ridiculous that there's some maximum

741
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: effort there. But but that season was an amazing one.

742
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, if you get a run

743
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: off of them, you're you're happy as hell because he

744
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: was just so so dominant.

745
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely ridiculous. But Ruben, don't want to take much

746
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: more of your time here. Thanks so much for coming

747
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: on with us. Appreciate you being here, Appreciate that we're

748
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: all part of the Foulatory Network now and hope to

749
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: talk to you again soon.

750
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome. Good to be with you guys, and

751
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: it should be a great should be a great three

752
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: games against the metsis Yes.

753
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: Don't forget to check out the Philly Show as well,

754
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: part of the foul Territory Network, Rubin, thank you so much.

755
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, we'll see you.

756
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: Ruben was awesome. Yeah, Ruben was great.

757
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think if he wasn't busy with that

758
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: poker tournament that he had going on to, I think

759
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: we're going to talk for a couple hours baseball guys.

760
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I think legitimately, I love now that we have we're

761
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: with the Foul Territory Network because we're able to get

762
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: these guests. But I do think and we've had this

763
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: happen to us in the past with guests, because we're

764
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: definitely a bit of like who the fuck are these

765
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Speaker 2: guys kind of thing. Yeah, I mean like.

766
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: Ber James is like Fantasy Baseball Rode World guy, Like

767
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: who's this guy?

768
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why am I talking to these people? And then

769
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: once we get to talk to these baseball guys three

770
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: mins like, oh, I like talking to these guys. These

771
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: are baseball guys. Ruben dropped a curse too, which was amazing.

772
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Speaker 2: That was fun, and now he knows that one of

773
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: Mark Seria baseball players is the famous Brice and Stop.

774
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely one of my favorite baseball players. I love

775
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: that you slip that in there, James.

776
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: I also do it. Also, I love that. We just

777
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: we were like, ah, who are you going to start

778
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: in the players? Think Ranger Suarez gets a shot? What's

779
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: gonna stop the Phillies from winning? Just trying to just

780
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: trying to start apolom but playing the little seeds in

781
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: the Phillies not winning a World series? Guess whereally hope for?

782
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: And then also just one of the guys in pitching matchups,

783
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: we and saying that interview Friday night six forty star time,

784
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: Hosea and Tana versus Aaron Nola Saturday, going to be

785
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: in the ballpark, say, since bank enemy territory be's on

786
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Speaker 2: the g be careful. We said, yeah, I'll be okay.

787
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: We said Runo versus Kobe Allard, which is just what Yeah? Good,

788
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: good one Yeah. And then Sunday one five, bit of

789
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: an ASoft we got here David Peterson versus Christopher Sanchez.

790
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: Bit if an ASoft is right, couldn't sit it better myself?

791
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: A couple big lefties, couple big lefties, and now guys

792
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: are gonna take you into the prospect report. But first

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Speaker 1: a little bit different, for one, because we're not just

820
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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about Mets prospects that are currently on

821
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Speaker 1: this team. We might be talking about a couple of

822
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Mets prospects that are no longer on this team.

823
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but first a couple of prospects they're still on

824
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: the team. Brandis brot it was now this week is

825
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Speaker 2: going on the developmental list? What is a lot of

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 2: The Developmental List was instituted in twenty twenty one to

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Speaker 2: help major league organizations help monitor minor league prospects usage

831
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Speaker 2: and development. So there's something for pitchers who have approached

832
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Speaker 2: their innings limit. It's often implemented to help the pictures

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Speaker 2: to help I'm of the pitchers pitch counter innings while

834
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Speaker 2: allowing them to stay with their team, watch and continue

835
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Speaker 2: learning with Steph.

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Speaker 1: I don't really stand it still.

837
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: But all it means is that Brendis Brot no longer

838
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: is taking up a roster spot on Triple A Syracuse,

839
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: but he's still on the team in the clubhouse there

840
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: every day. He's not pitching this year, and he's not injured,

841
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: but he's hit his innings limit. He's gonna be in

842
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: the meetings every single day. He's gonna be with the

843
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: coaches every day. But he will not pitch anymore.

844
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Speaker 1: Oh he's not.

845
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: He's not gonna pitch at all anymore, not pitching anymore. Gotcha?

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Weird that we even needs have

847
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: that in terms of like, are we really checking rosters

848
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: in Triple A? Is that really what's happening?

849
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: You know, too many guys on Triple A roster? Oh

850
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: my god. But that's just what that means. So I

851
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are a little confused by that,

852
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: especially because Brandis Prode hasn't been amazing in Triple A.

853
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: But we've talked about some reasons why for that in

854
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: the past, main ones being that they use a different baseball,

855
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: So that's gonna affect a guy likes Brot, especially when

856
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: a field guy who has multiple breaking balls they use

857
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: a different strike zone, they use your ABS system with

858
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: the challenge system, so you're learning a whole new thing there,

859
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: and you're it's just it's just, you know, a good

860
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: time to be like this was a really successful year.

861
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: Theyically made a decision that there's zero percent chance he's

862
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: going to be a part of this team through the

863
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 2: stretch run the major league team. So just hang out, stop,

864
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: let's have a real good offseason. Let's get ready to

865
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: be false steam ahead in twenty twenty five.

866
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of which, another guy we want full

867
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: steam ahead in twenty twenty five. Jet Williams been playing

868
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: a little bit better this week. Over this last three games,

869
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: He's basically gotten two hits it, I think in every

870
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: single one of his last three games, so four for

871
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: his last three. He's just been really good. Jet Williams

872
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: is a great prospect. We know that hand injury. One's

873
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: gonna take ahi minute to recover from rist injury. Same

874
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: thing it's going to take a second to recover from

875
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Jet. Maybe maybe Arizona Fall League. Just

876
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: because he hasn't had a lot this year and he's

877
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: a top prospect, I'd love to see him there We've

878
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: been to the Arizona Fall League. It's an awesome time.

879
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: Maybe the Boys running back again, who knows. We'll have

880
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: to see what's going on there with our schedules, but

881
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: we'd love to see Jet back there getting a little

882
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: bit more playing time because a little bit of a

883
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: lost season this year.

884
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, major league lost season. And risk is so important

885
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: for a guy like Jet, who's a bit of an

886
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: undersized yet powerful hitter. He needs that risk to be

887
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: as strong as possible for him to the player we

888
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: know it can be another guy who looks like he

889
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: might be becoming the player we thought we knew he

890
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: could be. Is a throwback to February March messed up listening.

891
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: These guys are gonna love this.

892
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: This is when we did the I did the thumbnail

893
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: in the title of the Mets have the best bullpen

894
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: Bullpen and it was with Shintaro Fujinami and Jake Diekman.

895
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Neither of them are technically on the Major League rosser

896
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: for the New York metsas right now, but.

897
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: Got Shintaro Fujinami has finally found a groove with Triple

898
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 2: A Syracuse. Since the beginning of July, he has a

899
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: two point zero one ERA and thirty three percent strike

900
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: out rate, still a fourteen percent walk rate. We don't

901
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: love that, but he's going on right now. Hasn't given

902
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: up an earned run since August fourteenth. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

903
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: eight appearances, which is kind of austm and Roey has

904
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: given up a run. The walks are down those eight

905
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: appearances too, and on the season he's finally looking like

906
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: he's a guy that can, I'll say this make an impact.

907
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe things are getting crazy And it's been a

908
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: lot more Foresteen fastballs a lot of colors, a few

909
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: less splitters because seemed like that was a pitcher you

910
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: couldn't really command, but still getting west for him. But

911
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: that fact, ball's been averaging ninety eight miles an hour.

912
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: That color is acting more like a baby slide rather

913
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: than the fastball vary, and that's sitting between eighty five

914
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: and eighty eight and still drops those nasty spoilers a

915
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: tiny bit less often now. But we're seeing someone who,

916
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: again with this color, is becoming a guy who it's possible,

917
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: it's truly possible, he can he can actually get some

918
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: beginnings fifteen down stretch, which didn't even seem at all likely,

919
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: even remotely likely two months ago. But it seems like

920
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: finally something has clicked for Shintaro. And he's a guy

921
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: throws one hundred miles an hour, which we would love

922
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: to have. Yeah, I mean, if you can throw strikes,

923
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: if you can throw strike, if you can.

924
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: Throw strikes, I mean, it also wouldn't be out of

925
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: the norm if a guy in the Mets bullpen didn't

926
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: throw strikes. I mean, how many times we've seen that

927
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: happen this year. But yeah, you're looking at the Mets bullpen.

928
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: He'd basically be taking the spot of either an Alex

929
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: hung or Adam Otovino. It seems like are the two

930
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: guys on the potem pole. They're gonna be the lowest

931
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: for this bullpen. And there right now, there really is

932
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: no reason yet to bring him up. There's no reason

933
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: to rush him until the Mets field one hundred percent

934
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: that he's ready. But definitely someone to keep an eye

935
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: out for. Again our prospect report, We're gonna do a

936
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: much bigger one when the minor league season end. I

937
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: think right now the focus is on major league baseball.

938
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going on with the team

939
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: that actually matters right now, not the guys in the

940
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: Miners as much. But at the same time, quickly, we

941
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: do have to talk about a couple of guys that

942
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: used to be a part of this organization. One one

943
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: of them was actually technically never a part of the organization,

944
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: that being Kumar Rocker, who is going to be his

945
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: Major League baseball debut on Thursday night against Seattle Mariners,

946
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: which couldn't be more of a dream matchup, probably if

947
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: you're a guy like Kumar Rocker. The Mariners strike out

948
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: a ton, he has one of the nastiest sliders right

949
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: now in all of baseball, the fastballs reaching the upper nineties.

950
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: He's looking disgustingly good. And I will say, with the

951
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: Mets having an off day and Thursday night football be

952
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: on one screen, but I'm definitely gonna be watching Kumar

953
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: Rockers start, because, yeah, we might have fucked.

954
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: This one up big time. Yeah we might have fucked

955
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: it that big time. But I think it's also a

956
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: situation where we can't be exactly I'm pissed off about

957
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: how it wound up. Yes, in the moment, I'm still

958
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: not like good curious about the process. I it's not

959
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: good process, but it was processed kind of, but it

960
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: was a process to be understood. Yeah, and I think

961
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: it still understood. We'll gives some context. But just another

962
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: couple of cool things about Kamar Rocker before it makes

963
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: his debut. First made player of Indian descent ever to

964
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: start play a game baseball history, which is incredible. He

965
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: also you talked about the slither. It's ferociously good. His

966
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: fastball also is the is the only one? This came

967
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: from our friend. I think with TJ stats, I'm gonna

968
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: give him dit it might not have been him as

969
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: I scroll Twether and try to find it, but with

970
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: his exact velocity, extension, release height, and iv B, there's

971
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: only one other fastball and baseball like it. Can you

972
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: guess whose it could be?

973
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So I saw Lance's video about how he's Kumar

974
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: is what six foot five, but his release point is

975
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: five foot eight, which is below average just in general,

976
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: let alone for his size. Who Chris Sale?

977
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: No, it's Paul Skins. Oh yeah, Hm, another really good picture. Okay,

978
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: another another picture? Who's fastball? Definitely I'd say works because

979
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: big because you know, one hundred miles an hour, which

980
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: Kamorrow Rocker is gonna sit in ninety seven, ninety eight,

981
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: and the slider is gonna he's gonna walk into midcheleague baseball,

982
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: and that slider's going to be one of the best

983
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: in baseball.

984
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe I was planting his flag that it

985
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: might be the best slider already.

986
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I had a good tweet that's come back

987
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: in some Brangers fans especially. I found it recently, which

988
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: is uh is from May sixteenth, twenty twenty three, which

989
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: is admittedly not that long ago, no long ago at all,

990
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: not really long ago. What fifteen months ago? Sixteen months ago?

991
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: I said, hand up Mets, swapping Kumar Rocker for Kevin

992
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: Probab looks amazing. In hindsight, that wasn't true. And I'll

993
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: tell you guys this, I never ever would have sent

994
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: that tweet if we weren't working for the Mets at

995
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: the time. That was me being a shill, So apologies

996
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: to that one. But that was also the day that

997
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: was announced Kamar Rocker was going to have Timey John

998
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: Sergey lay that week. That was after Kamar Rocker had

999
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: full on shoulder surgery after the Mets declined him basically

1000
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: in the draft. So I think that is where I

1001
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: want to take the conversation for two seconds, because it's

1002
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: easy now to have hindsight being twenty twenty mean, like

1003
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: Kamara Rocker healed, Kamar Rocker came back strong, and now

1004
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: Kamar Rocker is going to probably be an amazing picture.

1005
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: But at the time he was drafted the Mestica I

1006
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: think it was twelfth overall, right, mark in twenty twenty

1007
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: one mesical tenth overall and twenty twenty one, tenth of

1008
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: all twenty twenty one. He he was basically him and

1009
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Scott Bores were basically not being truthful about his medicals

1010
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: and his physical and he was drafted and him and

1011
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: he and the Mets had agreed in principle to a

1012
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: deal that was right at his slot value as it

1013
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: was a college junior at the time, still one year

1014
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: eligibility left to Vanderbilt, And then as the Mets did

1015
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: their medical evaluation with him, they realized, like, oh, this

1016
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: guy needs massive surgeries. And again since he's had a

1017
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: shoulder surgery and an elbow surgery, both of those things.

1018
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: I think a lot of Mets fans have PTSD with

1019
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: guys like Matt Allen.

1020
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: I wash, dude, I pulled up Matt Allen's Baseball reference,

1021
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: so I was gonna be. I think a big reason

1022
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: why the Mets didn't pursue him as aggressively as they

1023
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: were hoping to and not bring him in was probably

1024
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: because they felt a little bit burned by Matt Allen,

1025
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: who third round pick in twenty nineteen has literally only

1026
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: thrown ten innings in professional baseball. They happened in that

1027
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season, the year that he got drafted. He's

1028
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: still currently on the sixty diil and Mets organization. You

1029
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: feel for a guy like that, but I think because

1030
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: they've seen what happened with him, and just the idea

1031
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: of paying millions of dollars to a guy who already

1032
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: has these nicks and bruises and essentially bad bones and

1033
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: ligaments at the time a little bit scary.

1034
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, these aren't nicks and bruises. Again, since the Mets

1035
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: drafted Rocker and decided how to sign him, he had

1036
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: full SoC shoulder surgery, full time of john surgery, pitched

1037
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: a full year in indie ball in the Frontier League,

1038
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: and now was come back to the Ranger system. So

1039
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: I think at the time. Now it feels horrible, and

1040
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: at the time lost didn't feel great. But the situation

1041
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: around that then was that Kamar Rocker and Scott Boris

1042
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't budget on the slot value that the Mets had

1043
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: offered first after this new information came out, So then

1044
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: it became a full on pissing contest between the Mets

1045
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: and Scott Boris. And if you guys remember, it was

1046
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: really bizarre. We talked about it on the show at

1047
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: the time as much as we were allowed to talk

1048
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: abou because we can't talk about a loted is when

1049
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: we worked for the Mets. So twenty twenty two, then

1050
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, right twenty twenty

1051
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: two we started working with the team, the Mets. Scott

1052
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: Boris plup a billboard for Kamara Rocker in New York City.

1053
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't fucking happen for Major League Baseball draft prospect.

1054
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: That was completely insane. That was him trying to push

1055
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: public perception and make Mets fans go crazy, and it

1056
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: did work. And now again Kamar is great, so it's

1057
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: all funny in hindsight, But he got drafted next year

1058
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: by the Ranger. I think he got drafted second third,

1059
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: fourth overall high but he was signed for something like

1060
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: twenty five percent less than the slot value of that pick,

1061
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: which was still a good pick. But the Rangers basically

1062
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: took him knowing that he was realistically more of more

1063
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: of a puzzle piece in their full draft because they

1064
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: were able to give him such a low slide value,

1065
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: and that allowed them later on that draft to take

1066
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: a high school pitcher who was a freak of nature

1067
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: rock Poor there, and they were able to move their

1068
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: money around and give Kamar Rocker less of a bonus.

1069
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: They could give a layer round pick more of a bonus.

1070
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: Then they kind of got to the equivalent of two

1071
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: first round pick talent pitchers. So that's just a weird

1072
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: thing with the LMB draft, and it all just comes

1073
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: back to the fact that him and Boris wouldn't wouldn't

1074
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: Budge wouldn't negotiate it all after they found out that

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00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: he had these massive medical issues.

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00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kumar Rocker ended up getting five point two million.

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00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: For context, the number one pick, Jackson Holliday got eight

1078
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: point one nine, Drew Jones at number two got eight

1079
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: point one to eight, and those were the one two

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00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Kamar was three dropped to five point two, and that

1081
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: is like the eighth or ninth highest draft picks, slot

1082
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: value or bonus that was given out in that draft,

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00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: and he was selected third overall. Still yeah, no, still

1084
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: a ton of money. I'd be very very happy if

1085
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: I was him, and I think he is going to

1086
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: be very happy, especially because if he pitches like we've

1087
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: seen the Minders, he's gonna be getting paid big bucks

1088
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: later on in his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: Bottom line, he looks incredible. Now it feels horrible for

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Speaker 2: the Mets, but I feel like contextually I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, this isn't by the way, you were

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00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: talking about Brockporter. Brockporter got three point seven million dollars

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00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: as a fourth round pick that year. So just again,

1095
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: the MLB draft snow bizarre. That's why it was also

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Speaker 1: such a great pick.

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Speaker 2: Again, So there you go. The basically the picks before

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00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: and after Kamara Rocker were the same money slot value

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Speaker 2: as Kamar Rocker plus Brockporter. Yes, which is why that

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Speaker 2: That's why the Only Draft I think is so fun.

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Speaker 2: That's also why I think the Only Draft is such

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Speaker 2: a hard thing to analyze because all these teams are

1103
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: playing a game rather than just picking the best players

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Speaker 2: like in the other leagues in drafts, which is a

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00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: weird thing, but that's just how we do it, I guess,

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Speaker 2: and how we're gonna continue to do it. So it's

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Speaker 2: a fun thing keep an eye on. But just yeah,

1108
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: process there wasn't wasn't really great. It also wasn't horrible,

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00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: and I I'm just tired of all the doom porn

1110
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: about everyone posting Kamar rock right now in twhether the

1111
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: fact that, like Kamara Rocker, Jacob the Grom MAXU has

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00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: their picture of the goal alter universe, he could be

1113
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: the most three pitchers weekend. Shut the fuck up. Shut

1114
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: the fuck up. Those are not gonna be the through

1115
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: best three pitcher this week. And that wasn't exactly. That

1116
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: was not how it was going to go either.

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00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: One.

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00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: Do you guys want to be paying Jack at the

1119
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: Graham this money right now? No, I'll tell you this too.

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Speaker 1: Also, the alternate universe is the Rangers are out of

1121
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'd much rather be in the Mets position

1122
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: right now that I would be the Rangers. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why we would want to be in the alternate

1124
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: universe where the Mets are a worst team for sure.

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Speaker 2: Now, oh the Rangers are coming off World CE championship.

1126
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: But I want that range right now.

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00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Last year I want there Rangers. This year I

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00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: don't want th Rangers. But I think that's annoying. I

1130
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: mean also, it's another one. This is another one that

1131
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: was bad process now is becoming bad results. Peter Armstrong

1132
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: looks sick as fuck a lot. He looks at the

1133
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: ball player. Yeah, mainly that one jerk D A n

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00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: C A l r K was saying that this is

1135
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: an impressive baseball player. Yeah, because that's a person that

1136
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: doesn't actually watch Baseball's person that just looks at player

1137
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: stats and makes his determinations.

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Speaker 1: No, his whole bit, right, you know, he's a bit

1139
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter. He's not He's like not even I don't

1140
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: even think a real person. I think Dan Clark is

1141
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: like as a person, he's an Australian who just kind

1142
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: of just bates people on Twitter. He's like the Nick

1143
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Adams of baseball a little bit like I genuinely I

1144
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: don't even really know if he's ever been to a

1145
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: baseball game.

1146
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Like that makes a lot of sense th because he

1147
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: gets a bunch of engagement. Bad baseball takes, but Pikle

1148
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Armstrong is ascending rapidly. He is incredible. He had the

1149
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: game on Tuesday night where he put on one of

1150
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: the best shows at defensive aff I think I've ever

1151
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: seen and ever in baseball.

1152
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: I was talking with my dad about it because he

1153
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: robbed a home run to win the game, missed one

1154
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the game, and the.

1155
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Eighth inning he made a slide and catch in the

1156
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: gap with two men on. I was my jaw dropped.

1157
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: He plays baseball with an air of looseness that I

1158
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: don't really remember ever seeing. He plays baseball like he's

1159
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: playing pick up basketball, and when you're just better than

1160
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: everybody else in more athletic where you're like, oh, I

1161
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: can just do this in my sleep. It's not really easy.

1162
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: He's robbing home runs like it's it's nothing like it

1163
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: like their routine plays. We need TJ stats to give

1164
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: us the catch probability on all these plays. I want

1165
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: to see what they look like. He's incredibly fast, he

1166
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: has a credible range, has a canon of an arm.

1167
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: The hitting starting to come around to which is really scared.

1168
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: That's been the one thing that you can maybe take

1169
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: a shot at Pete Crow about is that the hitting

1170
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: had been pretty bad for the first half of the year,

1171
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: but I think since the end of August, he's basically

1172
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: been hitting like three p fifty and hit for power

1173
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: like he's been phenomenal. Yeah, we're looking at someone with

1174
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: his floor I think is like a borderline All Star

1175
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: every single year, and his ceiling is someone who's a monster.

1176
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Who what do you know, since I've been playing well,

1177
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: the Cubs been winning games, He's a dude who could

1178
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: change how this franchise looks the next couple of years.

1179
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: Now. He I was on a Rother World podcast out day,

1180
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: Eric Samalskin, he camps him offensively right now to see

1181
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: j Abrams, which I don't even think is that far off,

1182
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 2: because he is the guy who will not walk somewhere

1183
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: to the Abrams. And p Crow has found some power recently.

1184
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: He's really closed up a hole up up and away

1185
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: part of the zone. He's just flailed that pitch his

1186
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: hips used to go out. Now he's finding a way

1187
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: to put that ball in play, play and play hard,

1188
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: go the other way with it, and that's allowing him

1189
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: to open up his strike some more and get to

1190
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: his power that he wants to get inside defensively. Again

1191
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: that pick up basketball. That's a great take because it's

1192
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: like that's how he feels and he plays, but he

1193
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: plays a little loose with abandonment. Sometimes he kind of

1194
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: cost the Cubs the game yesterday. I don't know if

1195
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: you're watching, I was. I'm buried in late night baseball

1196
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: this week. I don't know why all my pitchers fantasy

1197
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: baseball are just Dodgers, Astros, Padres, Mariners, but I was

1198
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: watching the Cubs Dodgers game. Serious has been electric, by

1199
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, it's crazy, outrageous baseball. Every single game

1200
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Monday through Wednesday. It was a back and forth, heavy

1201
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: offensive game. The game was five to two after the

1202
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: first inning and wound up. I think this time it

1203
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: was I want to say, seven of five Dodgers. P

1204
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: Croz got singled first and second and a throw came

1205
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: through to the plate. I think it was either Miguel

1206
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: Mei or Michael Bush didn't come home. It was too

1207
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: close of a hit. PI Crow figured that everyone's going

1208
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: to move up a Bascas's how he plays baseball course,

1209
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: and he just he didn't even look. He ran from

1210
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: first to second base after his single, and then he

1211
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: just stood there in a rundown to be like, tell

1212
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: the guy third to run home because he thinks everybody

1213
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: else in the field is also pekro Armstrong. They just

1214
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: they could just steal a run whenever they want. So

1215
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: then they got they got whoever I think it was

1216
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: again Michael Busch out in a rundown between third and home,

1217
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: and Pekrow had to go back to first. So then

1218
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: instead of second and third one out, if Pete had

1219
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: just been tagged right there and under a situation, it

1220
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: wound up being first and second, one out, and the

1221
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Cubs in scoring were growing.

1222
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: Page impressively talented athletic rookie that's just kind of learned

1223
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 1: the game of baseball as he goes as well, because

1224
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: talent wise, it's definitely you see the ceiling with a

1225
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: guy like pe Croremstrong. But yeah, that's pretty much it

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Speaker 1: for the Prospect Report. Wanted to keep it short. This

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Speaker 1: ends up being longer than an episode yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Which is just that's hilarious.

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00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: That's this is us. We're sick in the head. We

1230
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: could literally talk about baseball for hours upon hours. Maybe

1231
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: you guys like that, I don't know. Let us know

1232
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: in the comment section. Tweet at us do you like

1233
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: the longer episodes when we ramble? Do you like the

1234
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: shorter ones We're a little more concise. We'd love to

1235
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: hear some feedback on that before we do wrap up.

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00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: We do have a few reviews to read. Of course,

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00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: if you guys drop this review on Apple, we'll read

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00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: out what you guys say. We got three of them. James,

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00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the first one here. I believe

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00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: this person has done it before the weather.

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00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: Five stars. Best Mets podcast definitely my number one Mets podcast.

1243
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: These fellas capture the feeling of chatting with good friends

1244
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: about the Mets, and they sprinkle in some really top

1245
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: tier insights. Simply put, these guys no ball. I really

1246
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: enjoy the crossovers and segments like media marvels. I love

1247
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: the stories about what's going on in their lives too,

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00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: and the NYC name drops. I got the Levee or

1249
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: the Levy is better? Thank rola interesting. The Levee is

1250
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: a good bar, it truly is. I think now the

1251
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: rock and roll has changed a little bit.

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00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: I know find four.

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00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Dollars schooners now it's what is that what they're saying.

1254
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also all the Manhattan I's found out

1255
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: by Rock and Rolling. Now they're ruining it. They're ruining

1256
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: That's why we have to That's why we have to

1257
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: go on Tuesday at one am. That's that's our time

1258
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: to be there. You want to take the next one?

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00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: You have been loaded up right now?

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00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Uh?

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00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: Definitely yet Uh here this was from I Love Football Strike.

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00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but uh hey, guys,

1264
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: been watching Marks and Steel Star eleven twenty seventeen. Was

1265
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: that's like my one of my first ever YouTube series

1266
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: on draftic gaming. That's crazy and listening to the podcast

1267
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: since day one. Love everything you do, PS James. He's

1268
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: changed back to either having no range since you guys

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 2: are no longer affiliate with the Mets. The Mets didn't

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00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: tell me to change that. The Mets never ever told

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: me to change me. I said to say, Mark said

1272
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: to change that because Marcus, like, you know, we're gonna

1273
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: get a lot more hits now you probably be known

1274
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: by your name rather than like your troll person. And

1275
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you are probably right about that,

1276
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: So that's why I changed it. I don't think I'm

1277
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: gonna go back either, but I love to everyone remembers

1278
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: me for that, which is kind of funny, but also Okay,

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00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: get a happy birthday since the next episode is on

1280
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: my birthday. Happy birthday, dude, it to be birthday. Happy birthday. Appreciate,

1281
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Appreciate the review and then yes, the last one.

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00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, last one from Mike and Joe Hey, Mark and

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Speaker 1: James love the podcast have been watching and listening since

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Speaker 1: early twenty twenty one. I met you both back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two at the Queen's Baseball Convention. With the

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Speaker 1: season coming to a close, who do you think the

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Speaker 1: Mets hero to a potential playoff run will be? Also,

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Speaker 1: we need to end the Dj Stewart experiment, all right.

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Speaker 1: You know what my picks can be DJ Stewart, He's

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Speaker 1: our hero.

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Speaker 2: I don't think probably. Yeah, I'm honestly just hoping Brandon

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Speaker 2: Nimo or Peelanza wake up on the right side of

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Speaker 2: the bed and just one of those who just goes

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Speaker 2: nuclear like we know they can. Because we need we

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Speaker 2: need something pushed over the edge here, badly, badly. We

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Speaker 2: need it.

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Speaker 1: Big series coming up against the Phillies, guys, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening to the third episode of the

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Speaker 1: week again new format, three episodes during the week during

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you drop a lke on the video if you did

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Speaker 1: to the mets up Podcast YouTube download and download, download

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Speaker 1: download the podcast download Apple, Yes, download on Apple. James,

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Speaker 1: what's your Twitter? James, I'm just, of course, you know

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Speaker 1: draft Nick Mark with the see Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: listening and watching. We'll catch you after the Philly series.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace out guy. Let's fucking go mess.

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Speaker 3: The Atten