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Speaker 1: I am all In again.

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Speaker 2: Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We are graced with.

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Speaker 1: The presence of one of the great singers today, David Archiletta.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to Luke's Diner.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Incredibly talented you are David. You may remember David from

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Speaker 1: American Idol, but his journey as a singer, songwriter and

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Speaker 1: performer has been nothing short of remarkable, and today is

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Speaker 1: extra special because his brand new single crem Breulet is

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Speaker 1: officially out. Welcome David, tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your journey. You were it came very close to winning

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Speaker 1: American Idol. I think in what the seventh season you

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Speaker 1: were sixteen years old. Tell us about that. How did

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Speaker 1: you get discovered? What was the audition process like for you?

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Speaker 1: An amazing journey?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the I mean yeah, it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: wild time because it was, you know, I just started

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Speaker 2: high school. Not I didn't start high school. I was

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Speaker 2: in my junior year of high school, and I wasn't

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Speaker 2: expecting everything to go pretty crazy because I was just

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Speaker 2: I went to audition, but I thought, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: just going for fun and it'll be a good experience.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say bye to any of my friends because

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Speaker 2: as I thought, I'll be back soon. It's not like

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just was like trying to be

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Speaker 2: realistic about it, and I thought, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: be gone for long. And I just ended up never

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Speaker 2: going back because I just kept going every week and

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Speaker 2: all the way to the finale. And then I got

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Speaker 2: signed to record deal and went on tour, and but

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Speaker 2: I wasn't anticipating any of that at all, because I

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Speaker 2: was like, just a few months ago, I was getting

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Speaker 2: ready for my Spanish test and so that was my priority.

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Speaker 2: And then it went from that to releasing an album

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Speaker 2: and trying to find a business manager and a tour

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Speaker 2: manager and management and hiring a band and getting merchandise.

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Speaker 2: It's just all these things I'd never even fathomed.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're sixteen years old, How could you possibly like

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Speaker 1: take all this in and process? It must have been

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Speaker 1: a bit overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was pretty interesting, but and

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Speaker 2: it was overwhelming. I think it was it was a

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Speaker 2: it ahead of me, like my life was moving faster

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Speaker 2: than I was able to keep up with, and I

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Speaker 2: was kind of like, what how am I supposed to

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Speaker 2: keep up with all this? Like it seems amazing, it

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Speaker 2: seemed like a dream come true, but I just it

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Speaker 2: wasn't even something I thought of doing.

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Speaker 1: So that was my question. Did you as you were

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Speaker 1: growing up? Obviously you have this gift, this vocal gift,

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Speaker 1: this gift of expression to sing in the way that

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Speaker 1: you do, But you never had a vision of I'm

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Speaker 1: going to end up on that stage in front of

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand people or one hundred thousand people, and that's

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Speaker 1: where I'm going. That wasn't in your life path. You

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought about that. You were just sort of going

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Speaker 1: along and singing, and then all of a sudden this

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Speaker 1: contest came along, this show. I mean, did you want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did want to be on it, and I

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Speaker 2: guess I just looked at it as maybe I was

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Speaker 2: short term goal with how I was seeing things like

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Speaker 2: it'd be so cool to be on Americanaalt and sing

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Speaker 2: for people and sing songs and share what I love

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Speaker 2: to do. In that sense, but I just didn't think

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Speaker 2: so like my my dad was involved. And while I

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Speaker 2: all that happening, and he was trying to keep up

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Speaker 2: with it and say, David, like, be mindful of this,

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Speaker 2: mindful of I think. I also kind of like I'm overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do because the same thing happened to me,

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Speaker 1: My ego wasn't ready to handle it because I didn't

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Speaker 1: have much of an ego about it. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: I can completely sympathize with it. And it at least

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Speaker 1: you hung in there, right, you know you hung in there?

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Speaker 1: What do you attray abut dad too? How did you

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Speaker 1: Was it? Was it because your dad was helping you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. And I think, you know, my

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Speaker 1: What else is he going to do? Yeah, you got

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Speaker 2: does get sticky with parents' parent child relationships. Like my

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Speaker 2: like I think it's like we're your parent. Being the

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Speaker 2: And so it's just like when is it enough or

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Speaker 2: and it's like I'm getting into adulthood now, and I

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Speaker 2: think there's some extreme examples like Britney Spears where it's

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Speaker 2: But it's like I'm my own adult, I have my

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Speaker 2: don't like that when they've been so invested and a

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Speaker 2: it's it gets really tricky, and sometimes parents will if

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Speaker 2: manipulative tactics to stay to make you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: But so let's let's pivot a little bit. We're going

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Speaker 1: to get into some foody type questions. I love what

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Speaker 1: we you know that we're talking about, it's about breaking

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Speaker 1: up with people, right, it's when relationships come to relationships

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Speaker 1: come to an end. We see Lora Lai and telling

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Speaker 1: Rory to indulge in pizza and ice cream after her breakup.

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Speaker 2: David, Oh, my gosh, I think I'd have to go

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Speaker 2: with probably like the advice for Lorlai of pizza and

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Speaker 2: ice cream, because ice cream. I do keep a pint

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Speaker 2: of ice cream in my No, not a pint. What

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Speaker 1: All right. So when you get through a breakup, are

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Speaker 1: lose your appetite completely? Oh my gosh, depends right, Maybe.

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Speaker 2: You know what I think after a breakup. I do

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Speaker 2: lose my appetite. Okay, I like what did I do? Like?

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Speaker 2: What did I do? I think I'm like very I

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Speaker 2: can get very perfectionistic where it's like what did I

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Speaker 2: do wrong? Or because clearly, like I'm like, did I

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: It was going to end?

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Speaker 1: What would you rather have a Well, obviously you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want to have a breakup meal. You would have a

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Speaker 1: breakup playlist? What would be on the playlist? Top two

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Speaker 2: What are the songs?

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Speaker 1: Would be songs?

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Speaker 2: It depends on the breakup. Why I ended? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've written written songs to get it. Sure, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I think I start going on like a workout,

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Speaker 2: I want to show that I'm thriving that I feel

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be missing out on or you get

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Speaker 2: all the stress out of your system. But I will say,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of times i'll eat, I'll like lose

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Speaker 2: my appetite, but then I'll like binge. Like I love

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Speaker 2: ice cream and I like to drizzle peanut butter on it.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: So if you could team up with an ice cream brand,

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Speaker 1: uh and create the David Archer let us signature flavor?

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Speaker 1: What would it be called? And what's it? The peanut butter?

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Speaker 2: And I feel like I need to say a crimbal A,

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Speaker 2: But I do like pizza and I like tacosh me too.

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Speaker 1: It's really What about before you go out on stage?

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Speaker 2: I try to not to eat have anything too heavy,

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Speaker 1: what would you order and where would you sit?

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Speaker 2: Gosh, I think I'd probably want to sit by by

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What would I order?

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Speaker 1: I think we have Although I think Caesar could whip

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Speaker 1: Fantastic David Archiletta. Everybody get his single download his single

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