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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for

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Speaker 1: insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines

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Speaker 1: of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco. And now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It's Tuesday, March fifteenth, twenty twenty two. Just

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Speaker 1: like we predicted all along, a whole hell of a

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Speaker 1: lot has changed since the last time we did an

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Speaker 1: episode of the Draft Show. I'm David Hellman. I am

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my guys, Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans. Let's just get right to it, guys. I

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Speaker 1: mean we're not, you know, we're not really here to

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Speaker 1: get into the weeds of the Dallas Cowboys necessarily. But

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Speaker 1: some stuff has happened which has changed the draft. Um,

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Speaker 1: where do you want to start? Amari Cooper is no

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Speaker 1: longer scheduled to be a Dallas Cowboy. I guess that

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Speaker 1: trade won't be finalized until Wednesday, when the league year opens.

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Speaker 1: But the widely accepted report is that he's off to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland the Cowboys, gaining a fifth round pick pick and

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Speaker 1: swapping sixth. Yeah, we can start, Okay, well that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting reaction. We can start there, or we can mention

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Speaker 1: what else? What else has happened in this world? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There we literally as we were prepping for this show

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago, reports that Randy Gregory has agreed to

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Speaker 1: a five year extension, probably more like a two year

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Speaker 1: it's not a restructure, and it's it's an entirely new contract.

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Speaker 1: So you've got your edge rushers back for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Malie Hooker agreed to a two year contract this morning,

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Speaker 1: so you've got at least one of your top three

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Speaker 1: safeties back in the fold. Uh. Jake McQuaid can't forget

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Speaker 1: the long snapper. I think that's I think that's everything

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Speaker 1: major that's happened since we last spoke. Guys, where do

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Speaker 1: you want to start? I think we should No, I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have given you the option. Oh, we need to

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Speaker 1: start with Amari Cooper. That is the one I think

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Speaker 1: that most drastically impacts the draft. A because the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have changed their draft capital. B because they now have

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Speaker 1: a pretty glaring hole on their roster where they didn't

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Speaker 1: take the floor or somebody, what do we got? What

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Speaker 1: do we think? You know? I would just say Skymore

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Speaker 1: of course, there we go. Great is a great name.

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Speaker 1: Check that box. Now we're a gett. Can we get

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Speaker 1: odds in Vegas somewhere on saying that name? The show? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Cowboys will use a one of

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Speaker 1: hearing the names. Because as an unemployed guy, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: some freelance stuff for d magazine, and so I just

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Speaker 1: wrote an article that'll go up where I went through

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Speaker 1: rounds one, two, three. Here are the targets. Here are

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Speaker 1: the guys who could be Cowboys. One of these guys

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Speaker 1: who your number three wide receiver is going to be. Brian.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about Amari Cooper potentially not being on

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Speaker 1: this team. For eight weeks. Now that it's happened and

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Speaker 1: I was going, Kyle, And so apologies to Michael Gallup

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Speaker 1: maybe it's on your quarterback too, Maybe it's on your OC.

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Speaker 1: James will I did say, So those four you're taking

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Speaker 1: best player. I don't think there's anything that's off limits

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Speaker 1: Dorn's armstrong finding. I mean, we'll see. I don't want

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Speaker 1: know what if Karloftus is there, I'm okay with that. Corloftus, Lindebaum,

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Speaker 1: It would be fun it just like Ceedee Lamb was

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Speaker 1: Receivers should not be off limits in the first round

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Speaker 1: That's a great point because look at two years ago,

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Speaker 1: What do you guys feel better about second round linebackers

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Speaker 1: with Mica. You can find those guys in my again

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Speaker 1: not to be the centerpieces, but you already have that historically.

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Speaker 1: He's right, No, he a lot of really good linebackers

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Speaker 1: his market probably wouldn't be that great. When you've had

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Speaker 1: just kind of get by on vibes or just like

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Speaker 1: the irs. Isn't like beating down my door. I think

425
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Speaker 1: I'm okay, Yeah, it'd be fine. They'll know where you work,

426
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: it'll work. You have to the eighteenth this year, guys, Oh,

427
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Speaker 1: good to know tomorrow got three more days than usually.

428
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 1: All right, it's the second segment. You know what that means?

429
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Speaker 1: Twitter on the Twitter was absolutely right. A lot of

430
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Speaker 1: receiver questions today, I can't say I'm surprised about that,

431
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: which we we sort of we kind of did this,

432
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to get a little

433
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Speaker 1: bit more thorough. With a question from Rob, he wants

434
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Speaker 1: to know how far down your list of receivers can

435
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: you go before you're out of potential day one starters.

436
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a good question because that was the

437
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: situation they were in with Michael Gallup. They drafted him

438
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: at eighty one. He was a day one starter. Wasn't

439
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, great as a rookie, but a guy that

440
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: they were able to get production out of right away.

441
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: So we're looking at that again Cowboys pick twenty fourth,

442
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: fifty sixth and eighty eight. Can you find a Day

443
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: one starter? Like, how how far back can you go?

444
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: Maybe you can get to the fourth. I mean I've

445
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: I've seen fourteen wide receivers and I think they're all

446
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: Day one starters. Yeah, so yeah, I think you can

447
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: find one all of them. Yeah. Like, for instance, this

448
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: is just gonna be rapid fire because you guys know

449
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: the names of the top already, right, Wilson Burkes, Williams, London, Moore,

450
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: Olave Pickens, Mechie Dotson, Tolbert. And when I get down

451
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: to my third round and there's bunch of people I

452
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. Calvin Austin the third from Memphis, a

453
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: little slot guy, Yeah, he's a starter. Khalil Shakier at

454
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: Boise State. Yeah, I think he can start for somebody

455
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: the slot as a rookie. Alec Pierce at Cincinnati. Yeah,

456
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: that's probably an NFL starter as a rookie. And one

457
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: Dale Robinson the other tiny fast guy from Kids, a

458
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: fun player to watch. Probably you could start for somebody

459
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: in the slot as a rookie. And I'm not done

460
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: watching guys. There's a lot Yeah, I'm Robinson. I have

461
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. That's my first fourth round guy,

462
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: And I kind of agree with Jeff of the names

463
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: that he said. I think wide receiver used to be

464
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: one where you're worried about the learning curve, and I

465
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: don't worry about the learning curve. I think seven on

466
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: seven football has helped a lot of these kids in

467
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: high school. I think their offenses in college throw the

468
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: football a ton. They don't. Maybe maybe they're not the

469
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: most polished route runners, but you can throw on that

470
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State tape. You'd take any one of those kids.

471
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: You'd throw on the Alabama tape. You'd take anyone those

472
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Speaker 1: kids you throw on some tape from a kid from

473
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: Western Michigan. You'd take that kid, you know. I mean

474
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of where the things that we're at right now,

475
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: because these guys go out there and they catch the football,

476
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: they know how to run routes, they know how to

477
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: get open, and they're not scared. And I think that's

478
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what we've seen in pro football really

479
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: the last two or three years. And they're used in

480
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: so many different ways. Yea too, and that that same

481
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: sort of usage goes from the collegian game into the

482
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: professional game now and used to not be that much

483
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: of a crossover. Now there's so many things that mirror

484
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: each other, like where a Wandale Robinson could be selected

485
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: outside of the top one hundred, yet he's still going

486
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: to be the third wide receiver starting in eleven personnel

487
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: for whatever team ends up picking him up along the

488
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: way because he's used in a certain way. Same thing

489
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Speaker 1: with guys like Christian Watson. I know he didn't say

490
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: his name out of North Dakota State. He's down the

491
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Speaker 1: list from the guys like Pickens and Dotson and Mechi Tolbert.

492
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: But he's a guy who absolutely make an impact and

493
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: he's probably the eleventh receiver, tenth receiver off the board.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought him up. I'll ask this question

495
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: from tea chants, but then I think it opens up

496
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: to a broader question. He specifically wants to know who

497
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Speaker 1: you think is a better fit between Alec Pierce, guy

498
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: that y'all like a lot out of Cincinnati, and Christian

499
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: Watson like a little bit of a Sinson. Brian likes

500
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: him a lot. I do like I have him over

501
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Watson myself. I just when you watch, Like I said,

502
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: when I was when I was evaluating the quarterback there

503
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, he was throwing the ball to one guy

504
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: really and that one guy was making like every single play,

505
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't know how you could, you know,

506
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: not like a receiver. He tested very well at the

507
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: combine if you're into those kinds of things, you know,

508
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: and he also the thing about him that's really really

509
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: interesting is he's a really he's a tall guy. I

510
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a six three, two hundred eleven pound

511
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: guy that I mean getting in the catch radius is huge.

512
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: He goes all over the place to get the ball.

513
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: He's really good in the red zone. I mean his

514
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: learning curve I think is very little because I think

515
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 1: he could do all the things already and he's not

516
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: size deficient, so you could play him wherever you need

517
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Speaker 1: to play him. I'm the same way I have Watson

518
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: underneath Pierce because of those reasons. I like the size,

519
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: I like to speed, the athleticism. I'm not gonna say

520
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: he's he's Cooper up. That's a dumb comparison. A lot

521
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: of people have kind of thrown it out there in

522
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: terms of style of play, He's not to that level yet,

523
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: but I still like the way that he could kind

524
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: of mix some of those things into his pro game.

525
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Speaker 1: I don't want to repeat a lot of what Brian said,

526
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: but I'm right there with it. Well, I'll throw it

527
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: out to you in a broader sense because again he

528
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: asked about two specific guys. But on a team that

529
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Speaker 1: now has you assume Ceedee Lamb is is now the

530
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: number one receiver on this team? Yeah, Michael Gallup boy

531
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Speaker 1: pt says Michael Gallup's gonna be the number one. He

532
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: could be. Shout out, hey, shout out Phil A. Tanner.

533
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: I trust the hell out of what he has to say.

534
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: Coached here for a little while. Oh well, and I

535
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys want more from Michael Gallup, but knowing

536
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: his paid receiver on the team, knowing their skill sets,

537
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: well they need to get some from Ceedee Lamb though, too.

538
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: They need more, honest that that was one of those

539
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: things that you know that I know he was my

540
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver on that board, and the fact

541
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Speaker 1: when he was taken I was super excited. Is his

542
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Is it his fault completely? No? But but there needs

543
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: to be It's sounds harsh to say about a guy

544
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: maybe maybe overrated him, I mean, like safe thousand yards

545
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: potentially his first season, eleven hundred last season. It doesn't

546
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't kind of feel like you need more there.

547
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't help that a guy drafted five spots behind

548
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: him is setting the league on fire. Yeah. Anyway, but

549
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: knowing what you know about these two, is there a

550
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: third receiver? And I think y'all have talked about Pickens

551
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: before when we've kind of danced around this subject, But

552
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: is there a third receiver that you think compliments those

553
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: two exceptionally? Well? Are you ready for your question to

554
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: be answered with a question that's just kind of what

555
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: y'all do, So are you prepared for that? Yeah? Do

556
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: you like Ceede Lamb outside or do you like Ceedee

557
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: Lamb in the slot? I prefer him in the slot.

558
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: Then you need a guy who can play anywhere. Um,

559
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: if you want CD in the slot in the first round,

560
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I think names to know would be Drake London, Trail

561
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: and Burgs, Garrett Wilson. I think I would like Jamison

562
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: Williams in the slot, but he could either If they

563
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: draft Jamison Williams, I'm fine with whatever. By the way,

564
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: you could put you could just mix and match those

565
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: two guys. Ideally, I would like to think ceedee lamb

566
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: can do both. Like I want my best receiver in

567
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: the slot, no matter what. Yeah, like that's what I want.

568
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't because it's like it's like we say the

569
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: word slot and I think people picture full Basley Yep, Okay,

570
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Well train plays the slot. He's six two two twenty five.

571
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: A J. Green, when he was still really really good,

572
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: was playing the slot. Julio Jones started playing the slot.

573
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: Your best guy plays the slot used to mean smaller

574
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: guy who gets pry with. Yeah, but teams have also

575
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: figured out they play their best corner in the slot though, too. Sure,

576
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: you know that's that's something to a lot of them.

577
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: You can bat that. No, a lot of them do

578
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: walk in there and play. If you're gonna put your

579
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: best player in the slot, that Ramsey'll go in there,

580
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: but most will most out corners play outside. Yeah, there's

581
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: there's some of your good you watch enough games, they'll

582
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: take they'll they'll play the You'll see some of the

583
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: best players inside. They just that's the way they walk.

584
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: You're right, I don't watch him any game. I don't.

585
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you really, if you really watch it,

586
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying, if you really watch the games,

587
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: they really do. You can look up snap counts for corners,

588
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: and I promise you the vast majority of what you

589
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: consider a great corner it's gonna be outside. Sure, there's

590
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that don't want to go in there,

591
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: but that you do. You you know, teams have figured

592
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: out that the best receivers are in the slot. Do

593
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: you think I'm crazy for wanting CD in the slot? No, No,

594
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't see's your best one, Okay,

595
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: But I also would point out that I think CD

596
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: is really really good outside too. I think he could

597
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: do whatever. And that's why I think you're wide open.

598
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I think you're wide open at what receiver you pick.

599
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I like the idea of Jamis and Williams and CD

600
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Lamb kind of being interchangeable. Both guys can play outside,

601
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: both guys can play inside. You never know where they're

602
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna line up. And then you've got Michael Gallopy's your

603
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: deep threat on the opposite side. That sounds like a

604
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: ton of fun. I will readily admit I think there

605
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: are more important things they could do with that pick

606
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: than draft the receiver. But it would be fun. Oh

607
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: my god, I would do a backflip if they drafted

608
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. It would be amazing. Anthony wants to know

609
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: what would you give up, if anything, for Lavisca Chennault

610
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: who appears Was there some questions about his medical coming out. Yes,

611
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: I think that's something that people need to give of

612
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: his draft. Yeah, I think that's a lot of it

613
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: has to do with that. So yeah, I think I

614
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: would worry. I think that these teams this medical stuff

615
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: that carries a lot of these guys like, well, okay,

616
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: I see him playing, but is that something that's going

617
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: to be a problem in the future. You know, this

618
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: is kind of one of those deals which I'm looking at.

619
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I believe Chanult fell to the second round, did he not? Yeah?

620
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: He he would just pick forty two and twenty twenty,

621
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: So again that matters because you don't get the fifth

622
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: year option. So he's he's halfway through his rookie deal. Uh,

623
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: And I just like, what is a what is a

624
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: guy who's been okay, not amazing, who's only got two

625
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: years left on his deal? Like, what is he worth?

626
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: What is that what is that worth to you? Like,

627
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up I wouldn't give up anything better

628
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: than a Day three pick for Yeah. No, that's what

629
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: you've kind of seen, what's going on with the Murray

630
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Cooper and stuff like that. I mean, that's what people are.

631
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: That's what people are doing right now. And they're even

632
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: doing it sometimes with these quarterbacks, you know, I mean

633
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: the top ones. Of course you're going to get the

634
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: first round picks. But again, I just believe that people

635
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: are kind of like, listen, you're you know, if you

636
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: want to move on from this guy. I mean, they're

637
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: looking at the draft just like we are. It's a

638
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: weird thing to say, because Christian Kirk just got paid

639
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: an ungodly amount of money. I mean, receivers are making money.

640
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: But at the same time, again going back to the

641
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: first segment, this trend and what we talked to Will

642
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: about at the combine, you can count on six of

643
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: these guys being studs every year, and so what are you, like,

644
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: why are you giving up a ton of assets when

645
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: you know that the next draft class is right around

646
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: the corner to be there with another thousand yard receiver

647
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: ready to play right away. I just think that kind

648
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: of hurts the value of established players unless you are

649
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: really at the top of your profession. Hey, Dallas has

650
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: three first or three fifth round picks. Now maybe you

651
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: could trade one of them and try and go get somebody.

652
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe not a nult, but maybe you go maybe this

653
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: is where you get your kicker. I think so too.

654
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you maybe takes I'm taking that extra fifth

655
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: from the Brownies and I'm using it on whichever kicker

656
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: they prefer. Kay York if that's fine out of the

657
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: at the risk of sound like a homer, if they

658
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: want to kicker the kicker, that sounds fun to me.

659
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't care one of them. I told y'all there

660
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: would be a lot of receiver questions. Cowboys seventy one

661
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: once y'all to break down Traylan Burke's verse, Chris Olava,

662
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: just their games. They're very different players. They're very different players.

663
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: So like, just break down what they do well, what

664
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: they don't do well, YadA, YadA, YadA, Just sort of

665
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: what you would get from either decision they do the

666
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: exact opposite swell. Traylan Burks is six two two twenty five,

667
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and you're going to feel every bit of that when

668
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: you play against him, because they're gonna throw them screens,

669
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna put the ball up in the air. Uh.

670
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Traylan Burks is physically imposing hell after the catch, plays

671
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: above the rim, down the field. He's a big, tough,

672
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: physical wide receiver. Chris Olave is a small, kind of slight,

673
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: incredible route runner and technician and and fast. I won't

674
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: take that from him. He scored thirteen touchdowns and sixty

675
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: five catches. That's pretty darn good. But they're just they're

676
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: polar opposites. Trail and Burkes. You want the ball in

677
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: his hands now or up there. And Chris Olave you

678
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: want him to go run a route on that dude,

679
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: and he's going to give you separation. Jeff's nailed him.

680
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's absolutely got both players, right. I mean

681
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: that the thing about a Lave to me is that

682
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: you talk about the technician and things like that. I mean,

683
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, let's let's look at it this way.

684
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Which receiver is best for Dak Prescott. If you had

685
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: to watch a game and you're saying throw it up

686
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: guy to you know, bad bad, bad catch guy. You know,

687
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: bad ball guy, see I'm trying to figure out now

688
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: and my new mission is if it's not separators, Yeah,

689
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: if it's not good for Dak, don't tell me about it.

690
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't care if you know.

691
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: If to me, if it's about blockers, if it's about

692
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: a runner, if it's about a tight end, if it's

693
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: a better receiver. Because again I know where a show

694
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: that's all about the draft. But if if you want

695
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: to focus on the Cowboys, which one of these guys

696
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: better helps Dak and to me, to me, maybe it's

697
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: a bigger body guy, but also look at a lobby

698
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: and make plays in tight spaces, poorly thrown balls. I

699
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: think the answer is a love which goes it goes

700
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: against my instinct versus a damn good player. I'm not

701
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: saying it goes against how I have them ranked. Is

702
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: the problem which the reason I was so the reason

703
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: I was so insistent that I thought moving on from

704
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Amari was a bad idea. I think his skill set

705
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: works very well with Dak. He presents like a clean target. Yeah,

706
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: he creates separation, he gets open. He wasn't as open

707
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: as he was last year. I don't believe. I think

708
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: there was some limitations with his health that allowed him

709
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: not to play fast. I'm already didn't play as fast

710
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: as he normally plays, and I think that to me,

711
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at all these wide receivers, I'm thinking,

712
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: which one of these guys can go out there and

713
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: get the football, get open and at least give Dak

714
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Prescott because we've learned about Dak. If it's not completely open,

715
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: that ball might not be going your direction. Right, So whoever,

716
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: whoever one of these guys, I don't care. Started at

717
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Jeff's number one and go all the way to fourteen

718
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: and determine who that guy is. Garrett Wilson's one of them. Yeah,

719
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: there you go, but we Sky Moore, Chrisolava, ye, John Metchi,

720
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: there you go, Jalen Tilbert all right, and maybe Jamison Williams. Yeah,

721
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: I would throw him into that. He's not a technician.

722
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: He wins at the line of scrimmage, but he doesn't

723
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: necessarily have that route running capability. Olave is one of

724
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: those crisp, clean route runners that's going to separate immediately.

725
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: If you throw him on a slant, he's open. You

726
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: throw him in the backfield if you want to kind

727
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: of toss it to him behind he's open, he's going

728
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: to run after the catch as well. So if you

729
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: want to narrow it down even further, and you were

730
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: to say, okay, I think the Cowboys would love to

731
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: pick an offensive lineman in the first round, second round,

732
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I believe you narrow that down to Sky Moore, John Metchi,

733
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Tilbert. You want one of those names available? Metchi

734
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: at Alabama, Tulbert at South Alabama, and Skymore at Western Michigan.

735
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: What about Dots, It's gonna ask you about Dots and

736
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: does he do anything for you? Gloss over John Dotson

737
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: a lot? But he's a slight guys over him five eleven? Guy?

738
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Is that? Why did you? Did you say? Five eleven?

739
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: And yeah? Slight and he's four four and like he's explosive.

740
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: John Dotson's a good player. But I think I see

741
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: him ranked for so many people, like in the twenties

742
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I'm more like, yeah, if

743
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: he's at fifty six, we could talk about it. That's well,

744
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. Fifty six. I'm not I'm

745
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: up there. I'm right there with you. He's not in

746
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: those top six receivers that we keep throwing around. But

747
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I like the way he runs routes, get guys off balance.

748
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I get mad at receivers who can't get off the line. Yeah,

749
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: and when people lined up on the line of scrimmage,

750
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: they were screwing him up. And when he would get

751
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: contacted in route, they were screwing him up. And he's

752
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: not physical. I have that in my cons category that

753
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: bothers me with receivers got off the line. Honestly, in

754
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, when you look at these names, the best

755
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: player probably for DAK would be Drake London. Oh, just

756
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: throw it up. I get tested catch guy though, But

757
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying though. But to me, though, I

758
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: know that it's gonna be that he's gonna he's gonna

759
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: go get it. See. I mean I put in my

760
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: notes because I thought this guy was Adam Thaling And

761
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe that's what DAK needs. Maybe Dak needs a guy

762
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: that can get open in. But when it gets a

763
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: little muddy, that like oh the balls thrown bat here's

764
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: like a six four guy going straight up and getting it.

765
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of what Michael Gallops is especially all

766
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: that money? Okay, tell me about Michael Gallup as a

767
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: route runner. I don't think he's It's okay if that's

768
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: your If that's your argument, then if that's your argument,

769
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: then go get you somebody that runs routes. He gave you.

770
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: He gave you a boatload of names to go talk

771
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: about guys that are really good route runners. A lab Mitchie,

772
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: those kinds of guys. You need guys, because that's what

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if you necessarily have that.

774
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you necessariay that Ceedee Lamb's a

775
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: great route runner. I agree, and that's so you better

776
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: go get somebody that can separate and somebody, but I break.

777
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: I bring up London just because of how damn big

778
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: he is and back shoulder up high because dad ain't

779
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: always accurate, you know, yeah, but but actually a better

780
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: I thought. It's a great point from you, even less

781
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: than his accuracy. He doesn't want to take that risk,

782
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna zip it into a bad window.

783
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: He's like, you're either open enough that I smage hold

784
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: whole sock, which that's the line of scrimmage. It's probably

785
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: the least sexy skill set because everybody is infatuated with

786
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the Treylon Burkes t myself included, like, if you're two

787
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: thirty and can run like that, that's exciting as hell.

788
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: And an incredible route tree probably gets glossed over the

789
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: most because it's it just doesn't it's not that exciting

790
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: to look at. But I think it's the most valuable

791
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: thing for Dak, which is why I wind up on

792
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: a lava. Do you think that at some point along

793
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: the line, if they do go with the Drake London though,

794
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: and you go with a guy who's again not a

795
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: great route runner, but he's gonna go up and get

796
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: the football, maybe those those tendencies start to shift a

797
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: little bit from Dak Prescott, because that's right John kid,

798
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: when he was here, Yo, ball Yeah, told dad, He's like,

799
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: rip it, yeah, let it happen. Do you see what's happening?

800
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: But maybe those t then sees change if all of

801
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: a sudden he doesn't have that technician like Amari Cooper.

802
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: We're willing this team to draft a wide receiver at

803
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: twenty four yards, all right, and it's probably not gonna happen.

804
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: So okay, Calvin Austin in the third, I think of

805
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: the opposite let's go tiny. We all agree, so I'll

806
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: end it. I'll end it with this and we can

807
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: go along. That's fine. But just knowing what we know

808
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: right now, give me your ideal roadmap through the first

809
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: four rounds, like if you don't if you don't want

810
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: him to draft the receiver, don't do it. Just round

811
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: one Zion Johnson, Boston College guard, Round two, Skymore wide receiver,

812
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Western Michigan. Round three. You guys are gonna have to

813
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: tell me what linebacker you think would actually be there

814
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: on my grades. I would say somebody like Channing Tindall,

815
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: but I think he'll probably gone or Asamoa the Ou linebacker,

816
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: your boy chanal Leo Chanel. If you think I can

817
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: have him in the third round, absolutely, I'd be tough

818
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: at eighty eight, but I think he'll go like before

819
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: eighty eight in the third four or round a tight

820
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: end Isaiah likely. Just throw out a name, Okay, Kyle,

821
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm along the same lines. Go offensive. You don't have

822
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: to give me names. I'm not one offensive line in

823
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: the first, wide receiver in the second, linebacker interior in

824
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: the third. Even though I know that's the fourth straight

825
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: draft we've taken an interior guy on day two, and

826
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: then linebacker whatever was left over from what I just

827
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: said in the third and the fourth okay, Lyndon baumb pickings,

828
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: and then I would probably look at somebody like Tendall

829
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: earth Walker. Was I have Walker in the third round.

830
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: He's probably a second round player, but I would go

831
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I would probably go center, I would go wide receiver,

832
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: and then I would go linebacker. Who's your left guard? Uh,

833
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: that's the question I need to answer myself, because right

834
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: now I don't. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a chance

835
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: that maybe I could bottom fish this thing, and I'm

836
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: just gonna make sure I take care of the center

837
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: spot because I think this center's pretty rare the way

838
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: he plays. So I'm going to take a chance that

839
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: my left tackle is going to hold up, my center

840
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: is going to be a rare player, My right guard

841
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: will be fine. I'm not sure about the right tackle.

842
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: You might need to take a right tackle too. If

843
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking about if you really think that that Steeler

844
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Speaker 1: is a guy, whether you like him or not. They

845
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Speaker 1: like him a lot. But I'm thinking I'm just gonna

846
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: take Linda Bomb because I think he's better than what

847
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: the guards that I have at that spot. Going back

848
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: to my point from earlier, a lot more is going

849
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: to change since the first segment. Connor Williams has agreed

850
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: to a deal with the Dolphins. I don't think really

851
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: anybody's surprised to hear that he's moving on, but I

852
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: am curious to see what I mean. Obviously, Connor McGovern's

853
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: still here. Do they take the time, for lack of

854
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: a better word, to draft and our excuse me, sign

855
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: a veteran I guess Matt Farniac's still sitting around as well. So,

856
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: like you have quote quote bodies, I just wonder how

857
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: much they do to address it or do they go

858
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: into the draft with that sort of being that kind

859
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: of glaring need where they need to spend a you know,

860
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: top one hundred type of pick. I'm just I'm just

861
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: looking at this, you know, I'm just looking at this

862
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: as my center is higher rated than those guards I

863
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: have on that board, and so and I say with Linderbaum,

864
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking that, man, I can I'm not

865
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna band aid this this guard position because

866
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: you tried to band aid it a little bit. And

867
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: they'll sign somebody yeah, draft right, like they're gonna say

868
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: that's what I'm do you think so, though, because if

869
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: you have McGovern and Farniac, you technically have the bodies.

870
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean we tried one of them. I mean just

871
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: immediately pulled the rip cord. Yeah, you are not wrong.

872
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: I get made the point in the first segment they

873
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: don't like seeing McGovern out there. Well, no, the offensive

874
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: blind coach hates him. So that's that's clear, you know.

875
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: But Yeah, the thing that to me, like, I just

876
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: if I'm going to take a if I'm centered looking

877
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: at that center, I think my at center can really

878
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: help me in the run game. I think you really can,

879
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe even more so than a guard right now, because

880
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I you know, I saw things going on with you know,

881
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: with the oddish that you know it's you know, it's

882
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: it's not it's not where it needs to be. Linda

883
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: Bomb comes in and man, we talk about you know,

884
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: how you played against the defense, how you reach, how

885
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: you scoop, how you get you know, you know, keep

886
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: give guys ability to cut the ball back and stuff

887
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: like that. I think he does that in a lot

888
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: and especially with combo blocks and things like that. He's

889
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: really really good so to me, I just have him,

890
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: but better than those those guards that are than Green

891
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: and Johnson and Ingram and Canard, all those guys. As always,

892
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: we appreciate your questions. When we come back, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: sixty three years It doesn't make me feel very good.

935
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Speaker 1: Not well, pro pros. I'll be doing one more draft

936
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Speaker 1: show with you, guys. Pro wrestlers live a hard life, man.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of travel and a lot of physical abuse.

938
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Nash and Razor Ramon was a solid tag team. Yeah,

939
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Speaker 1: it's a good group. Legendary, the Outsider's edge. Yeah, good stuffs.

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Speaker 1: The Razors, that Chad they were he had two names

941
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: for it. You're right, because he wasn't always Razor Remote.

942
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he was Scott Hall. The beauty

943
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: of being in wrestling for thirty years is like Razor

944
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: Ramon died, that's Scott Hall. Really? Yeah, Okay, I don't

945
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: follow the sport easy. I don't follow the sports. That's

946
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: my point is like, if you got Hall is dead

947
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: and Razor remote. If you do it, got him bow.

948
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: If you do it, your personnelity, you your gimmick changes

949
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: like eight times. So Scott Hall, Razor, Ramon nw All,

950
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: that mash was Diesel oee. So they just these these

951
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: WrestleMania reads always lead us down a rabbit hole of

952
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: pro wrestling. And I just assume most Caine war masking

953
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Speaker 1: because he was so horribly disfigured except for when he

954
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Speaker 1: took his also became like the mayor of Knoxville, or

955
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: you look like a congressman. Yeah, let's not go down

956
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: that path too far though, Yeah, all right, good point.

957
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: I want no, No, we're not doing it. We're talking

958
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: about the draft specifically do a podcast about it. Yet, No,

959
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: I want to get y'all takes. I want to get

960
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: y'all's takes again. We talked about this at the top

961
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: of the draft, but we're trying to draw this circle

962
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: around first round prospects, guys that we think the Cowboys

963
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: might target at twenty four, and I just want to

964
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: see how y'all feel about different ones, different options, different

965
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: ways that they could go by pairing guys up. So

966
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start off with a list that I

967
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 1: wrote out this morning. Given the choice between Nacobe Dean

968
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: or Chris Olave Kobe Dan, why because I'm grade as

969
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: a first round player and I have Chris Olave as

970
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: a cheater grade, my answer is always going to be

971
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: my board. Nacobe Dean I have as one of my

972
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: four seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven real life first round grades,

973
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: and Olave I do not. Can I get a rebuttal.

974
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: I've got both in the first myself and Max. Actually,

975
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 1: Olave is the last guy I have in the first.

976
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: I have four first round grades for the wide receivers.

977
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Dean is my number one inside linebacker. I would probably

978
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: go Dean on that one, is what I would do.

979
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: I just think that when you watch him play, he's

980
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: got some rare ability. Again, both these guys are a

981
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: little bit shorter, a little bit smaller, but both of

982
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: them make tremendous amount of plays. I just kind of

983
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: feel like that you put Dean in this scheme and

984
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: let him run, he could finish, So I would I

985
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: would have him slightly over a lava in that situation, myself.

986
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: I completely disagree. Now I'm just kidding, all right. Damn it, guys,

987
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: I know I was hoping it was more important than linebacker.

988
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Give me a love, Na, that's my that's my answer.

989
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: Well for this team, for this too much. Just for

990
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: this team are just as far as on your board

991
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: now in general, but also for this time. I have

992
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: him either way, Na Kobe Dean over o Lave, that

993
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: quick first step, the recognition, his ability to go head hunting.

994
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: I like all of that. Over Lave. Who I have

995
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Jeff. I have him in like

996
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: that first second round cheater area. But Nakobe Dean is

997
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: surely a first round player for me. Tyler Linderbaum trailing

998
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Burke's Linderbaum. I assume this is going to be a

999
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: clean Snderbaum. He's real life first round and I have

1000
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: all the top receipt there's the top six guys as

1001
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: cheater one twos. So anybody who I have as a

1002
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: absolutely first round grade, I'm taking over the receivers. Tyler

1003
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: Linderbaum fits there. Yeah, lindebaumb is both guys in the

1004
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: first round. Burks would be my third best receiver. Lindebaum

1005
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: the number one center on the board and it is

1006
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: a huge drop to the next center at the third round.

1007
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: So to me, I think I would go. I think

1008
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: there's some rareness to again to Lindebaum, I've never seen

1009
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: I've said it's before in a bunch of shows. This

1010
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: just I've never seen a guy overcome more deficiencies to

1011
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: play great like he does, you know, with his lack

1012
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: of high short arms. I mean, people will try and

1013
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: talk you out of him, and I'm like, watch the film.

1014
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Watch what this guy does on film, and you tell

1015
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: me Burks, I think is very interesting because of all

1016
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: the things he can do. But I would go with

1017
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: Linderbaum right there myself. Who is your second center? I

1018
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: don't know if we've talked about it. Parum, oh, okay,

1019
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: farm out of Memphis, Memphis, Okay, I have Dona in

1020
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: West r and then Param I have West out of

1021
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Arizona State. But yeah, it's a huge drop off, and

1022
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to what you were talking

1023
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: about in the earlier segments about wide receivers, about why

1024
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: invest this much when you know there's a ton of

1025
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: other guys that are gonna come in NFO ready to play.

1026
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Maybe If that's the case, if there's a position that

1027
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: is at least valued lesser than wide receiver like the

1028
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: center would be, and then there's a massive drop off

1029
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: in talent between their number one and number two guys,

1030
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: then why would you not take the winder bomb that's

1031
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: sitting there whenever you could, If if you pass up

1032
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: on a Burks, you could still get a guy in

1033
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: the second. You feel really good about Devin Lloyd. Trent McDuffie, Oh,

1034
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: now you're getting the same. Great Now I am gonna

1035
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: now I need you to give me an opinion. Deny

1036
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: in your life McDuffie. It's the corner out of Washington,

1037
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: or anybody that's stopped following along Trent McDuffie. The one

1038
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: knock he's gonna get is t Rex Arms. He's under

1039
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: thirty inch arms, but holy cow, he's a really good player,

1040
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: and he plays the more valuable position. I'm gonna go

1041
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie over Devin Lloyd. And again, are we talking

1042
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: about just overall? What would you like the player? Don't

1043
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: try to waffle here, don't try to come up like

1044
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play a need thing and we can

1045
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: move it around a little bit like Devin Lloyd probably

1046
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: feels a need better for the Cowboys. But if you're

1047
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: just picking players in order of how you like them,

1048
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: if you're passing over Lloyd, if you're passing on a

1049
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: corner that you love because you need a linebacker, that's

1050
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: bad drafting in my opinion. Why would you say that

1051
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: to my face? Though you could have said that when

1052
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: I was gone. You agree with me, Oh yeah I did,

1053
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: but you said it to me, so it felt like

1054
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: you were getting right at me. I have Lloyd as

1055
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: my twenty seventh overall player, and I have McDuffie is

1056
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: thirty three. Oh, you are a McDuffie hater. I'm not

1057
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: a hater. There are not thirty two better plays. I

1058
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: just have him as my third best cornerback hat dinosaurs, nonaurs. Actually,

1059
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is above him. Sauce Gardner's above him. Stingley

1060
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: out of LSU's Gardener out of Cincinnati. For those listening, Um,

1061
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: McDuffie is my third. I like Devin Lloyd just a

1062
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: little bit better. I think he's physical. I like the

1063
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: way he plays downhill. He can stop the run, he

1064
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: can plug the gaps. That's tough though. I take Lloyd

1065
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: and I love I mean McDuffie's. I had both guys

1066
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: in the first round again, solid first round players. I

1067
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: think with Lloyd, the thing I love about him, if

1068
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: you leave him unblocked, he will make every single tackle.

1069
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: And I love that about a guy. I love it

1070
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: when you watch him play and you know, you run

1071
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: into the football and all his tape is really really good.

1072
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: He's six three, two hundred and thirty seven pounds. This guy.

1073
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: People are going to figure out how to use him

1074
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: because when he's going downhill, he's gonna make it the

1075
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: tackle and he's gonna make him hard to block. And

1076
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what I really really like. Mc duffy

1077
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: to me is I don't look at the short arms,

1078
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: and you know he's tall enough, he's got enough weight.

1079
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: He still knocks the ball down. He still knocks that

1080
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: ball down. I mean that's there's no question. No. He

1081
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: plays here. I mean, I mean, I rex arms is

1082
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: fun to say. No. I mean you could say the

1083
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: same thing about the Iowa Center. You know there's guys,

1084
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: there's guys on this on this in this first round,

1085
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you they have deficiencies. They really do.

1086
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: If you know someone's gonna say, why wouldn't have taken

1087
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: him because he's a short armed guy. McDuffie, Well, I'm

1088
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: not going to take him because he's two hundred and

1089
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: ninety six pounds. You know, Lindenbaum, I'm gonna throw you

1090
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: one that people are gonna say is Pie in the sky,

1091
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: But you never know. I love pie. Tyler linderbaumum Derek

1092
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: Stingley both first round grades. I would take Stingley in

1093
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: that regard myself. Linderbaum, he likes football. Who I had

1094
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: to find a tiebreaker because they're both first round guys.

1095
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: I want you guys to fight because I'm on the

1096
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: fence here. It's been the center. It's been two years.

1097
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: It's been two years since Derek Stingley had an amazing season.

1098
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: It is a premier corner. We had traits to be.

1099
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: He has the makeup to be that is super duper valuable.

1100
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I can't see him falling that far, but you never know.

1101
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: There's enough. It's what do you not? It's who do you?

1102
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: Which one are you choosing to take your uncertainties and

1103
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: say I don't trust that guy. The height slash arm

1104
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: length of linder bomb, despite great tape or the Stingley

1105
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: two years of were you hurt? Did you you kind

1106
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: of lose interest when you guys weren't good? What happened there?

1107
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: I'll go durability. I'll take Linder Bomb. I mean, people

1108
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: are gonna get on me because here I'm wearing a

1109
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow are wearing an LSU hoodie, and I've got

1110
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: Gardner over Stingley though, But just just because I think

1111
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: I think there's questions. I think there's questions. I think

1112
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: there's reasons why you would say maybe he would get

1113
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: to twenty four. And people will tell you this guy

1114
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: is not an alpha type of a player, that he

1115
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: needs a big brother. You know that, he you know that.

1116
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of questions about him, absolutely,

1117
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: But you watch him play, there's there's, like you talk

1118
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: about Lindenbaum with some rare ability, that kid Stingley's got

1119
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: rare ability. When you watch him play, it is so

1120
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: easy for him to when the way he moves, the

1121
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: way he transitions, the way he plays the ball, it's

1122
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: super super easy. And I wouldn't have believed it was

1123
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: to be a better corner in the draft. But Gardner's

1124
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: a better corner, but Gardner is a better corner. But

1125
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I do love me some some Stingley, though. If you

1126
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: told me Sauce Gardner was the one that fell, and

1127
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: it was Linderbaum and Gardner, then I would take Sauce Gardner.

1128
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: But I know that's probably even less likely than the

1129
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: guy about. There are dings on Stingley's resume that could

1130
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: push him down the board, and there's less something comes

1131
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: out over the next month about Gardner that we don't know.

1132
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: He's the top ten pick. I guess, yeah, yeah, I

1133
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: think you were gonna say this cliche a little bit ago.

1134
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: But when they're smoke, there's fire, and you kind of

1135
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: hear that rumbling that he could be the one to fall. Yeah,

1136
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: needs the new ones. I've been expecting sting to fall

1137
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: since about mid October. He could. He could very well

1138
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: end up. And when that Philadelphia has that run, sure,

1139
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: you know right there, right there in that run, he'd

1140
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: be fun here. I just he'd have the big brother

1141
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: and digs if that that would be, that's what he needs.

1142
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: People will say that he's not a bad kid. They

1143
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: say that he if you want him to be, he says,

1144
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: Jeff's brought it up because he's seeing Gardner work out

1145
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: in person, and he's talking about Gardner walking in a

1146
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: room and lighting that place up. Stingley is not that guy,

1147
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: so that's kind of where people would ding him a

1148
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Like Jeff says, does the guy really like football?

1149
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a glass eater by any means,

1150
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, but I think no one should be. That

1151
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: sounds terrible and eat. You're tough if you're eating glass.

1152
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: It's a turn of phrase, Jeff. I think if you

1153
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: have a chance to draft a corner with that skill set,

1154
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: I think, especially if it's all the way down at

1155
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: twenty four, I think you got to take the risk.

1156
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: One last one before we get out of here. I

1157
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: like this one. I don't know, Brian, you might not

1158
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: like this one. I think. Jeff will Jordan Davis, Zion Johnson, Oh,

1159
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: same grade, Zion Johnson. Why I will go Zion because

1160
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: Zion is going to play one hundred percent of the snaps.

1161
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: I just think I would take my left guard over

1162
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: a fifty percent of the snaps player, give or take,

1163
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: which is what Jordan Davis is gonna be. And you're

1164
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: making me because I have to make a case you're

1165
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: gonna make me tear somebody down, and that's messed up.

1166
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: Not asking you to tear it's messed up. But yes,

1167
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: I would take a guy who I think is going

1168
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: to be a high level starting left guard for his

1169
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: career over a one technique, even with the good testing,

1170
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: because I got to see it on tape, Jordan Davison

1171
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: on tape, making a much case outside the town, Brian,

1172
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: you don't love Zion as much as you know, I

1173
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: have a chance to be really really wrong about that player.

1174
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of guys in this draft that

1175
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: I have that opportunity, and I'll wear them both. And

1176
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: knowing that you love Zion, what do you think about that?

1177
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: You know what choice? I'll tell you what though, I mean,

1178
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: he's not wrong about the playing ability, He's not wrong.

1179
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's about, you know, the thing, with Johnson

1180
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: playing every snap, you're gonna get him sixty five seventy plays.

1181
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: I think with Jordan Davis though, with this defense, you know,

1182
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: think about having a guy that big, that athletic in

1183
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: the middle of this defense. Yeah, And all of a sudden,

1184
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: now it's like, oh, we've got Randy, We've got Tank,

1185
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: We've got potentially Osa or you know, anybody else. You

1186
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: want to put it the three with that one playing

1187
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: the way he does, and maybe you work with him

1188
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: and find a way. I mean, the scouts will tell

1189
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: you that's just a push the pocket type of a

1190
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: player right now, but that's a big push the pocket

1191
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: type of a player right now. And so to me,

1192
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: I just have him better. I would have him. I

1193
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: got both of them in the second round. I just

1194
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: have a couple of guards over Zion Johnson, but I

1195
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: don't have as many. I don't have. It's Jordan Davis

1196
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: as a one technique and White as the three. You know,

1197
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: if you told me I could have either one of

1198
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: those guys, I'd absolutely love it. Which one would you take?

1199
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: I would take? I think I would take Wyatt. I

1200
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: think you gotta take over Davis. Yeah, yeah, it'd be fun.

1201
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: The thing about but one of three and one was

1202
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: a one technique, yeah Davis. It goes back to positional

1203
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: value too, because if you wanted to get your third

1204
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: guard on your list rather than your number one or

1205
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: number two interior defensive lineman. But kind of going into

1206
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: what Brian is, if I'm Dallas, if we're in the seats,

1207
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: and I know that's not the exercise I would take

1208
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis either way. Let's just say that I have

1209
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: him grade at higher. But if I'm Dallas, I'm looking

1210
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: at the weapons around what Brian's talking about. You have

1211
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: a guy who, even if he plays for just two snaps,

1212
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: you put him in there with Randy Gregory, Tank Lawrence.

1213
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: You have Michael Parsons coming off the back. Who knows,

1214
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's Jabril Cox back there, maybe it's a second

1215
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: or a third round guy who's behind. Mind you, it

1216
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: opens up your defense if you're able to push just

1217
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you have that rotation of

1218
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: guys that you already have on the roster at the moment.

1219
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: If you can put a guy who eats up that

1220
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: much space on the field and not give up any athleticism,

1221
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: like you don't get get lower as a defense, which

1222
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: you wouldn't and you think about the freaks that already

1223
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: work here. Yeah, I get I get the appeal of that.

1224
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: Sion Johnson's a good player, though too well. At the

1225
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: end of the I go, I mean, he's gonna plug

1226
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: and play. I go with Jeff, give me, give me

1227
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: seventy five snaps again, No, I mean and that's not

1228
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: and that's not the wrong way to think about Yeah though,

1229
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean that, but to me that that's that's the

1230
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: one guy that I'm gonna look back and say, Man,

1231
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: you didn't see him how you needed to see him?

1232
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: All right? Good? Romantic good. Not not as much of

1233
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: an argument as I wanted. But that's okay. We got

1234
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: plenty more time for that, plenty of Clark day three.

1235
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. That's rude, is what that is. What's a fight.

1236
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We got plenty plenty more twists

1237
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: and Torrent turns to go. I'm positive we will be

1238
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: back with y'all next time. Thanks for listening to the

1239
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Draft show. We'll catch you all next time. Thanks. I'm

1240
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Speaker 1: bad at signing on what later? Bye see. This has

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