WEBVTT - NFL Week 9 Fallout, Ohio State Breakdown with Bobby Carpenter 0:00:01.230 --> 0:00:05.170 Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz. 0:00:05.390 --> 0:00:08.690 Where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest 0:00:08.730 --> 0:00:10.050 sports stories of the day. 0:00:10.070 --> 0:00:12.600 Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz. 0:00:13.490 --> 0:00:14.620 Not So Fast, my friends. 0:00:16.180 --> 0:00:19.020 Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Patz. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.040 There is so much going on. I don't even know 0:00:21.060 --> 0:00:22.680 how we're going to fit in everything today, Paul. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:24.500 Pearl, we're going to go to the fallout from USC 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.790 versus Ohio State. Monday Night Football preview. I'm all hopped 0:00:27.890 --> 0:00:30.650 up on three Musketeers bars. Let's go. Let's hit some NFL. 0:00:30.670 --> 0:00:33.720 All right, let's start with a simple question. Who should 0:00:33.729 --> 0:00:35.240 feel the worst today? 0:00:35.260 --> 0:00:36.339 Oh, we're skewing negative. 0:00:36.659 --> 0:00:37.900 Yeah, of course we're going to start negative. 0:00:38.740 --> 0:00:41.020 I think the first ballot who feels worse today has 0:00:41.060 --> 0:00:43.199 to be the Baltimore Ravens and their fans. You get 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.300 Lamar Jackson back early game against the Bills. First play, 0:00:47.330 --> 0:00:49.110 it's like what happened to, you know, it's not as 0:00:49.150 --> 0:00:50.890 bad as what happened to Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, 0:00:50.930 --> 0:00:53.750 but he hits his hand on a helmet. Not even 0:00:53.770 --> 0:00:55.470 like a big hit or big injury and he's out. 0:00:55.930 --> 0:00:58.790 Tyler Hundley, who's considered a pretty high-end backup for you. 0:00:58.810 --> 0:00:59.950 He can win some games. 0:00:59.970 --> 0:01:01.490 Yeah, here it is. First play of the game, Bango. 0:01:02.020 --> 0:01:03.520 I thought it was a hit. It was a thumb. 0:01:04.140 --> 0:01:06.220 And now Tyler Hundley, where you think, oh, we're fine there. 0:01:06.540 --> 0:01:08.780 He gets a turf toe. These two guys could be 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.190 out a long time. At least one of them, Lamar Jackson, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:11.950 could be out for the season. 0:01:12.030 --> 0:01:13.810 Yeah, Coach Jesse Minner said he could be out for 0:01:13.830 --> 0:01:14.350 the season. 0:01:14.730 --> 0:01:17.170 You know, it's almost one of those seasons, like my 0:01:17.209 --> 0:01:20.250 Philadelphia Eagles, It's so bad, I don't even know if 0:01:20.290 --> 0:01:21.209 you feel bad right now. 0:01:22.069 --> 0:01:24.770 When Lamar got hurt, it was just like pulling off 0:01:24.810 --> 0:01:26.010 a mandate. Season's over. 0:01:26.490 --> 0:01:28.760 Right, but okay, if you're compared to the Eagles, it 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.360 feels like the Eagles, especially after last night, it's over, over. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.259 Like we say, done, done. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:33.880 And? 0:01:34.260 --> 0:01:35.480 Okay, yes, like you said. 0:01:35.580 --> 0:01:36.740 The Ravens are done, done too, dude. 0:01:36.780 --> 0:01:38.760 No, but if the Ravens, do you look at yourself 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.410 as done, done? The Bengals almost lost to the Titans. 0:01:42.670 --> 0:01:45.150 The Steelers are good, not great. And if you look 0:01:45.170 --> 0:01:47.480 at what's going on around you, Would you go to 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.680 the trade market this week? You have a game coming up. 0:01:50.060 --> 0:01:50.700 I'm being serious. 0:01:50.900 --> 0:01:52.000 No, of course you would go to the trade market. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:53.460 I mean, you have to bring in somebody. You have 0:01:53.500 --> 0:01:54.080 no quarterbacks. 0:01:54.180 --> 0:01:57.490 Okay, so their office coordinator, Declan Doyle, was with the 0:01:57.510 --> 0:01:58.250 Bears last year. 0:01:58.270 --> 0:01:58.490 Okay. 0:01:58.570 --> 0:02:02.430 Tyson Bajent is considered a high-end backup, but he may 0:02:02.450 --> 0:02:04.370 have fallen out of favor with the Bears. Is that 0:02:04.390 --> 0:02:04.970 your first call? 0:02:05.150 --> 0:02:06.830 I don't think Tyson Bajent has fallen out of favor 0:02:06.870 --> 0:02:11.030 with the Bears. I think Ben Johnson loves Tyson Bajan. And, no, 0:02:11.070 --> 0:02:14.150 the Bears have a quarterback with a wonky hamstring. And 0:02:14.190 --> 0:02:15.950 I know they have my guy Casey Keenum in third string. 0:02:15.990 --> 0:02:19.150 They're not giving up Tyson Bajan, really, unless it's a 0:02:19.389 --> 0:02:19.850 really high pick. 0:02:19.910 --> 0:02:21.550 Well, but don't you fleece them? Don't you try to 0:02:21.590 --> 0:02:24.450 fleece a desperate team? Like, remember Sam Bradford years ago? 0:02:24.470 --> 0:02:26.030 He got traded from your Eagles to Minnesota. 0:02:26.570 --> 0:02:29.110 I don't think so. The Bears have one goal this year. 0:02:29.130 --> 0:02:31.350 It's to win the Super Bowl. You cannot let Tyson 0:02:31.380 --> 0:02:32.399 Bajan walk out the door. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.560 Now, I know it's not about what fans think, but 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.299 right now, if you said to the fans, would you 0:02:36.340 --> 0:02:38.639 rather keep Case Keenum or Tyson Bajan, I think they'd 0:02:38.660 --> 0:02:40.060 want Keenum right now today. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.020 Oh, man. 0:02:41.100 --> 0:02:43.820 Well, I think that would be short-sighted to let either 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.070 of them go. I mean, Caleb Williams was pretty hurt. 0:02:46.169 --> 0:02:48.750 I know it was a little overstated, but Caleb Williams 0:02:48.850 --> 0:02:50.130 also likes to run. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.419 I think you have to keep them. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.320 And the Ravens, to me, if you're adding Tyson Bajan, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.220 you're not back in the Super Bowl mix. So are 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:57.520 you going to give up a high enough pick to 0:02:57.580 --> 0:03:00.650 tempt the Bears? First of all, the Ravens have injuries 0:03:00.710 --> 0:03:02.669 at other positions, too, and they haven't looked great with 0:03:02.710 --> 0:03:03.250 Lamar's there. 0:03:03.330 --> 0:03:04.690 Joe Flacco is on the Bengals. 0:03:04.850 --> 0:03:08.170 They're not going to give him up. There's no unless. 0:03:08.270 --> 0:03:11.070 The Bengals are not going to give the Ravens Joe Flacco. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.839 But unless you can fleece them and trust that Joe 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.820 Flacco can't beat you, it's a calculated risk. 0:03:16.630 --> 0:03:19.440 Yeah, I would not do that. Listen, I'll be honest. 0:03:19.470 --> 0:03:22.380 I prepared later a list of quarterbacks the Vikings should 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.119 go over. Daniel Jones has been thrown out a lot 0:03:25.139 --> 0:03:27.100 for the Vikings. How about the Ravens for Daniel Jones? 0:03:28.020 --> 0:03:31.019 Oh, man, I don't feel any better. I guess beggars 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:32.920 can't be choosers. All right, staying with who feels the 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.700 worst today, let's go to those Vikings. The Vikings were 6-0. 0:03:36.380 --> 0:03:38.620 You said a couple days ago they're probably going to 0:03:38.660 --> 0:03:41.240 end up being 6-4 in a couple weeks. Kyler Murray 0:03:41.260 --> 0:03:42.560 at the end of the game, they had a chance 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.500 to take down the Lions, and that would have been 0:03:44.540 --> 0:03:46.790 one of those perception wins. And Kyler Murray, he had 0:03:46.870 --> 0:03:49.130 a third and four. It didn't work out. The defense 0:03:49.170 --> 0:03:51.310 was missing tackles all day. They got run over by 0:03:51.350 --> 0:03:53.530 Jameer Gibbs. They got to feel pretty bad today because 0:03:53.790 --> 0:03:55.970 not only did you kind of blow it, it feels 0:03:55.990 --> 0:03:57.950 like that whole first month and a half was for naught. 0:03:58.530 --> 0:04:01.130 No, well, the Vikings fans knew their offense was terrible 0:04:01.190 --> 0:04:03.670 coming into this game, and it was terrible once again. 0:04:03.690 --> 0:04:07.000 I mean, I don't understand. Explain to me, Paul. 0:04:07.420 --> 0:04:11.710 Kevin O'Connell, quarterback whisperer, great head coach, great guy. How 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.970 did he not see any of this in the preseason? Like, 0:04:14.030 --> 0:04:17.089 how did Kyler Murray so decidedly beat out Carson Wentz 0:04:17.150 --> 0:04:17.570 and J.J. 0:04:17.610 --> 0:04:18.070 McCarthy? 0:04:18.510 --> 0:04:18.750 How? 0:04:19.029 --> 0:04:21.210 It feels like the Vikings are in this mess of 0:04:21.270 --> 0:04:22.230 their quarterback situation. 0:04:22.250 --> 0:04:23.210 That they put themselves in. 0:04:23.210 --> 0:04:25.370 That they put themselves in. They let Cousins go. They 0:04:25.430 --> 0:04:28.110 draft McCarthy. They could have had other people start for them. 0:04:28.310 --> 0:04:30.990 They let Jones go. They let Sam Darnold go. And 0:04:31.029 --> 0:04:34.200 it feels like they can't lock in on anybody. Justin 0:04:34.220 --> 0:04:36.339 Jefferson has got to be very salty right now because 0:04:36.380 --> 0:04:38.920 he had nine targets. He should have 15. Literally should 0:04:38.940 --> 0:04:39.339 have 15 targets. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.610 Yeah, I mean, he did not look happy yesterday. But wait, 0:04:42.630 --> 0:04:44.850 if we're doing who feels worse, what are we talking about? 0:04:44.890 --> 0:04:47.980 The Vikings lost a close game. The Ravens lost their quarterback. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.260 They're done. But clearly, Monday morning. 0:04:51.339 --> 0:04:54.200 It's the Cowboys by far. To me, and it's not 0:04:54.250 --> 0:04:57.130 just because of this loss, but it's what it means. 0:04:57.450 --> 0:04:59.070 Two of their next three games are against the Colts 0:04:59.150 --> 0:05:03.369 and the Titans. They could walk to the NFC East title, 0:05:03.710 --> 0:05:06.580 and yet they couldn't hold a 14-point lead Paul, this 0:05:06.620 --> 0:05:09.839 was a devastating loss, a loss that normally would get 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.960 a coach fired, but I don't think the Cowboys are 0:05:11.980 --> 0:05:14.479 going to fire Brian Schottenheimer, but they absolutely should. 0:05:14.500 --> 0:05:17.060 So Gardner comes in, Gardner Mischu comes in, rips him up. 0:05:17.490 --> 0:05:19.650 They go for this extra point, and it doesn't go, 0:05:19.710 --> 0:05:22.730 and they get the overtime bailout, and the Cowboys don't 0:05:22.790 --> 0:05:25.250 close there. Like you said, this division is so winnable, 0:05:25.570 --> 0:05:27.210 you really just have to play average football, and they're 0:05:27.230 --> 0:05:27.800 not even doing that. 0:05:28.490 --> 0:05:31.350 Well, I mean, they are kind of average at, what, 0:05:31.430 --> 0:05:33.440 three and five. So they do still have a chance. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.360 And I think they actually still win the division. They 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.860 have so much talent. And I know that you overrate talent. 0:05:37.900 --> 0:05:39.760 And I say this myself as a star. But they 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.440 have two of the best receivers in the league, no doubt. 0:05:42.500 --> 0:05:44.940 CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens. They just traded for Joey 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:45.460 Porter Jr. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.659 These teams should not be that close. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.600 They have Quinn and Williams. You know, listen, the Cardinals 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.000 have their number. They've beaten nine out of ten times. 0:05:52.060 --> 0:05:54.810 So there's something weird going on there. But the Cowboys 0:05:54.850 --> 0:05:57.550 cannot blow a lead like that. I blame the coach. 0:05:58.180 --> 0:06:00.600 You have Dak Prescott, and you have that receiving core. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.760 Throw the ball more. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.339 Brian Schottenheimer has been conservative since the day he came 0:06:04.380 --> 0:06:07.000 to the NFL. He's got to open it up. 0:06:07.140 --> 0:06:07.900 It's 100% on him. 0:06:08.010 --> 0:06:11.469 Okay, this week, does Jerry Jones fire nobody? Schottenheimer or 0:06:11.510 --> 0:06:12.210 the offensive coordinator? 0:06:12.230 --> 0:06:13.610 Defensive coordinator. Christian Parker? 0:06:13.690 --> 0:06:13.810 Yep. 0:06:14.589 --> 0:06:17.300 I would lean toward nobody. It doesn't feel like Jerry 0:06:17.330 --> 0:06:19.980 Jones wants to fire people. He doesn't want to spend money. 0:06:20.860 --> 0:06:23.360 I think it's a weird personality quirk with Jerry Jones 0:06:23.380 --> 0:06:25.000 that he has loyalty to these coaches. 0:06:25.020 --> 0:06:27.680 But it's weird because Jerry Jones, I think, doesn't fire 0:06:27.740 --> 0:06:31.409 people when they should be let go, no offense, because 0:06:31.450 --> 0:06:33.690 it's like I'm pointing the finger at myself because I'm 0:06:33.710 --> 0:06:34.390 the guy who hired them. 0:06:34.570 --> 0:06:35.430 Right, right, right, right. 0:06:35.610 --> 0:06:38.050 But the thing is, he will not hire a big 0:06:38.089 --> 0:06:40.150 name to compete with him. He hired Bill Parcells back 0:06:40.170 --> 0:06:42.230 in the day and said never again. For example, let 0:06:42.270 --> 0:06:43.110 me just take it one second. 0:06:43.190 --> 0:06:43.790 I know where you're going. 0:06:43.830 --> 0:06:44.010 Go ahead. 0:06:44.029 --> 0:06:48.050 Mike Tomlin shredded the Cowboys on Football Night in America. 0:06:48.190 --> 0:06:48.809 It was awesome. 0:06:49.130 --> 0:06:52.789 He said that they basically, he needs guys who can 0:06:52.850 --> 0:06:55.789 close the deal. Something about eyelids. It was really powerful. 0:06:56.190 --> 0:06:58.430 So people were like, oh, is he auditioning for the Cowboys? 0:06:59.270 --> 0:07:00.870 I think you and I think Jerry Jones would not 0:07:00.910 --> 0:07:01.630 bring in Mike Tomlin. 0:07:01.950 --> 0:07:04.250 Okay, Mike Tomlin only takes the Cowboys' job if they 0:07:04.300 --> 0:07:05.760 give him control of player personnel. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:06.520 That's not happening. 0:07:06.580 --> 0:07:09.089 And it won't happen, which is defeating your own purpose. 0:07:09.110 --> 0:07:11.450 You give Mike Tomlin whatever he wants because what's the downside? 0:07:11.980 --> 0:07:15.490 Because you're Jerry Jones, and you want a low-wattage head 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.990 coach in there. You know how a president wants a 0:07:18.030 --> 0:07:19.710 vice president who doesn't take away the shine? 0:07:20.070 --> 0:07:21.770 Jerry Jones doesn't want a coach who's going to take 0:07:21.790 --> 0:07:22.210 away the shine. 0:07:22.450 --> 0:07:24.090 He probably could have hired Sean Payton at one point. 0:07:24.110 --> 0:07:26.470 It's like a hot girl wanting a non-threatening boyfriend, like 0:07:26.530 --> 0:07:27.170 a CBS sitcom. 0:07:27.390 --> 0:07:29.360 Yeah, I think nobody gets fired. Okay. 0:07:29.420 --> 0:07:31.680 Let's go to biggest statement of the weekend. Which team 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.820 kind of made some hay, did some things? I'm going 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.160 to go weirdly with the Broncos, because the Broncos, that 0:07:37.220 --> 0:07:38.880 win could have easily been a loss, kind of a 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.290 wonky false start call against the right tackle of the 0:07:41.570 --> 0:07:44.050 Chiefs or the Chiefs win it. But the Broncos proved 0:07:44.070 --> 0:07:45.970 that they're in every game and they could win any 0:07:45.990 --> 0:07:48.530 game in the fourth quarter. Now, style points, the first 0:07:48.550 --> 0:07:51.390 three quarters are not good. And Bo Nix gets criticized 0:07:51.430 --> 0:07:54.510 probably more than any good quarterback in the league. But 0:07:55.190 --> 0:07:55.820 they can beat anybody. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.780 They can beat anybody. They can keep any other team 0:07:58.820 --> 0:08:02.220 in the game. Their defense is awesome. And I love 0:08:02.260 --> 0:08:04.020 Nick Bonito. I love Patrick Chartan. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.520 Is it enough? I mean, it's funny. 0:08:06.580 --> 0:08:07.920 I just feel like they're going to be in some 0:08:08.020 --> 0:08:10.870 crazy close game in the playoffs. Just fast forward to 0:08:10.910 --> 0:08:13.550 January where they're against the Bills or the Chiefs again. 0:08:13.910 --> 0:08:15.870 It's going to be close. I picked them for the 0:08:15.890 --> 0:08:17.190 Super Bowl, so I'm in on them. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.760 But, yeah, it's hard to argue with. That was a 0:08:19.780 --> 0:08:20.580 very meaningful win. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.140 Give me one more. 0:08:22.140 --> 0:08:22.720 Well, to me, the. 0:08:22.660 --> 0:08:28.460 Lions because the Lions, Jameer Gibbs is maybe– Yeah, he 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.960 might be the best player in the NFL right now. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.730 He broke tackles against the best defense in the league. 0:08:32.750 --> 0:08:35.410 Minnesota is the best defense. Seattle and Minnesota may be 0:08:35.490 --> 0:08:37.830 one and two. And Jameer Gibbs kicked their butt. 0:08:37.890 --> 0:08:38.530 Yeah, he really did. 0:08:38.550 --> 0:08:40.729 He was amazing. The color announcer in the game said 0:08:40.770 --> 0:08:44.550 that the... Vikings missed 17 tackles in that game. That's 0:08:44.610 --> 0:08:46.429 twice as much as they missed in any game this season. 0:08:46.730 --> 0:08:48.390 Jameer Gibbs was toying with them. When he came out, 0:08:48.410 --> 0:08:50.850 the backup running back, Bakke, was toying with them. 0:08:50.890 --> 0:08:54.530 Yeah, he's the new David Montgomery. Also, Jared Goff moved 0:08:54.570 --> 0:08:56.990 around and made some plays with his feet. I think 0:08:57.010 --> 0:09:01.620 the Lions obviously have a possibly really sad situation with 0:09:01.650 --> 0:09:04.100 Jack Gamble, the linebacker, who's in the hospital. 0:09:04.179 --> 0:09:06.900 We have no news of him right now. We'll see 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:07.500 where that goes. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.700 But the Lions, I think, came away from that feeling, 0:09:10.740 --> 0:09:12.420 you know what, we're as tough as any team in 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.540 the league. Brian Flores has been torturing every other offense 0:09:15.580 --> 0:09:17.110 in the league, and we stood up against them, and 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.689 we played really hard-nosed Dan Campbell kind of football. You know, 0:09:20.770 --> 0:09:23.070 that being said, I don't know if I put them 0:09:23.110 --> 0:09:25.690 as a contender. Do you have them in the NFC mix? 0:09:25.770 --> 0:09:27.850 I do because no one in the NFC scares me, 0:09:28.010 --> 0:09:30.809 even the Bears, even the Lions. I'm sorry, even the Rams. 0:09:31.130 --> 0:09:33.000 No one really scares me. Let's give out some helmet stickers. 0:09:33.340 --> 0:09:36.360 I'll go first. Helmet stickers this week. Tyler Algier, the 0:09:36.380 --> 0:09:39.040 running back, the backup running back for the Arizona Cardinals, 0:09:39.300 --> 0:09:41.420 he's always the backup running back. He was the backup 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.360 for Bijan. This guy just produces. 11 carries, 147, and 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.040 a TD. He gets no pub. Tyler Algier is a 0:09:48.140 --> 0:09:49.489 really nice running back for the Cardinals. 0:09:49.500 --> 0:09:51.030 You know, there's an interesting dynamic with him. 0:09:51.190 --> 0:09:54.850 So they draft Jeremiah Love, number three overall, and then 0:09:54.870 --> 0:09:56.380 they have this guy who's better than him. 0:09:56.410 --> 0:09:56.949 Just like Bijan. 0:09:57.390 --> 0:10:00.090 And it's exactly like uh what happened with the raiders 0:10:00.110 --> 0:10:02.510 the raiders have ashton jenny's number six overall pick and 0:10:02.530 --> 0:10:04.820 they get mike washington jr in the fourth round who 0:10:04.890 --> 0:10:07.400 is probably a better player which goes to show you 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.900 you know you draft a court running back high someone 0:10:09.940 --> 0:10:11.460 else will take up the mantle i'm gonna go with 0:10:11.500 --> 0:10:13.540 t higgins You know what? 0:10:13.780 --> 0:10:16.360 You could do a Bengals receiver almost every week this year. 0:10:16.380 --> 0:10:16.890 Great year. T. 0:10:17.140 --> 0:10:19.160 Higgins was dominant yesterday. 0:10:19.179 --> 0:10:22.800 The Titans, who played a great game, give them credit, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.080 give Cam Ward credit. T. Higgins was unstoppable. 0:10:26.500 --> 0:10:28.780 Yeah, he's had a very good year. Their defense, not 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.620 so good. If they would have lost that one to 0:10:30.660 --> 0:10:32.430 the Titans, that would have been... I mean, it almost 0:10:32.450 --> 0:10:34.290 feels like a bad win. Great job by Higgins, but 0:10:34.309 --> 0:10:35.740 it almost feels like a bad win for the Bengals. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.240 Yeah, absolutely. Okay. All right. We have a lot more 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.260 to dive in on this Football Monday. 0:10:40.340 --> 0:10:42.880 We're going to get more into USC's big win over 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.700 Ohio State and try and solve the quarterback situation in Minnesota. 0:10:46.780 --> 0:10:47.860 That's next. Not so fast. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:49.870 You are. 0:10:50.540 --> 0:10:51.450 Ravens, by the way, I. 0:10:52.010 --> 0:10:54.330 Just feel like do not invest a lot. 0:10:54.370 --> 0:10:56.330 So just wipe off the season. 0:10:56.470 --> 0:10:56.770 Yeah. 0:10:57.030 --> 0:10:58.010 You're saving for next. 0:10:58.050 --> 0:10:58.750 Man, that's a bummer. 0:10:58.950 --> 0:11:01.020 I'm sorry, but it's the way it is. 0:11:05.980 --> 0:11:08.480 Back on Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff, the midday pick-me-up. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:12.540 This was a great ending. There's a Minnesota kicker, seemingly 0:11:12.660 --> 0:11:14.120 for the win from 60. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:14.300 Good! 0:11:15.260 --> 0:11:17.340 On fourth and eight, they think they're going to win it. 0:11:17.390 --> 0:11:19.730 What a nice upset for Minnesota. The Gophers having a 0:11:19.750 --> 0:11:23.350 nice season. PJ Flex says calm down because Patty McIntyre 0:11:23.910 --> 0:11:28.430 from Ireland, 60 yards, the backup kicker for Indiana, sends 0:11:28.490 --> 0:11:30.430 it to OT, and Indiana stays alive. 0:11:30.809 --> 0:11:32.850 That was a crushing loss for Minnesota. 0:11:32.890 --> 0:11:36.090 They thought they had beaten... Defending champion. It would have 0:11:36.110 --> 0:11:37.570 been a new step for that program. 0:11:37.690 --> 0:11:38.770 It felt so good. 0:11:38.809 --> 0:11:39.290 They had it. 0:11:39.290 --> 0:11:41.910 But, like, two kickers in a college game going for 60? 0:11:41.910 --> 0:11:43.010 It's never happened before. 0:11:43.050 --> 0:11:43.569 Back to back. 0:11:43.809 --> 0:11:45.210 It feels like it's a sign of the times, though, 0:11:45.230 --> 0:11:47.900 because kickers are getting crazy good. Even college kickers can 0:11:47.940 --> 0:11:48.500 kick long ones. 0:11:48.540 --> 0:11:51.260 Like, Indiana season, they could have three losses or no losses. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.699 Not sure what to make of them. All right, let's 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.160 go to college football for the first warm take here 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:55.940 on Not So Fast. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:56.339 Ready, Pearl? 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:56.960 Here we go. 0:11:58.340 --> 0:12:01.160 Saturday night, fourth quarter, just under six minutes to go. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.590 Ohio State is down 27-12 versus USC. Buckeyes score a touchdown. 0:12:05.710 --> 0:12:08.949 They go for two. They miss it. Now they're down nine. 0:12:09.230 --> 0:12:12.360 Now they're down two possessions instead of one. If you 0:12:12.390 --> 0:12:15.600 kick the extra point there, you're down 27-19 with five 0:12:15.620 --> 0:12:17.580 and a half minutes to go. You're back in the game, 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.420 and they passed on that option. I'm sure some analytics 0:12:20.500 --> 0:12:22.720 kid or some guy said, here's the chart when you 0:12:22.740 --> 0:12:24.420 go for it, when you don't. I don't know if 0:12:24.500 --> 0:12:29.920 analytics takes into factor momentum and jumping on the other team, 0:12:29.970 --> 0:12:31.970 stepping on their neck a little bit. So I'm debunking 0:12:32.050 --> 0:12:35.570 analytics here. You have to make room for momentum and pressure. 0:12:35.910 --> 0:12:37.530 But wait, they have to go for two at some 0:12:37.570 --> 0:12:39.569 point because they're down by two scores. 0:12:39.850 --> 0:12:41.209 So they're going to have to go for two on 0:12:41.230 --> 0:12:41.709 the next score. 0:12:41.750 --> 0:12:44.140 The next one, when it's more of a tense situation 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.760 because the other team is now giving it up and 0:12:45.780 --> 0:12:47.600 they have their backs against the wall. You get the 0:12:47.660 --> 0:12:50.780 extra point. You're down eight. And now the next five minutes, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.000 USC feels the pressure to get a first down. Instead, 0:12:54.020 --> 0:12:58.429 USC goes, it's a two-score game. It's a two-possession game. Now, 0:12:58.630 --> 0:13:00.970 USC would feel the heat, and USA has the boost. 0:13:01.330 --> 0:13:04.300 By going for two there... You took out the momentum 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.589 you just had. When they missed it, everyone's like, well, 0:13:06.710 --> 0:13:10.290 it's not going to happen. You have to insert momentum, juice, 0:13:10.330 --> 0:13:11.990 whatever you want to call it. You've got to keep 0:13:12.010 --> 0:13:13.690 your team in the game while putting pressure on the 0:13:13.710 --> 0:13:16.170 other team. So I'm debunking analytics here and think that 0:13:16.210 --> 0:13:18.469 Ohio State, and it's not just Ohio State. Lots of 0:13:18.490 --> 0:13:21.570 teams do this. They go for the two early. instead 0:13:21.590 --> 0:13:22.329 of waiting for it late. 0:13:22.390 --> 0:13:23.350 Yeah, but I've got to be honest. 0:13:23.370 --> 0:13:24.830 I don't think they were going to make the second 0:13:24.850 --> 0:13:26.580 two-point conversion, even if they had made it. 0:13:26.590 --> 0:13:29.170 Probably not, but I just think that you take yourself 0:13:29.220 --> 0:13:30.959 out of the game. You put loss as an equation. 0:13:31.420 --> 0:13:34.320 Bigger picture, though. Lincoln Riley and USC. We talked about 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.520 it here. It was shut people the hell up weekend. 0:13:37.990 --> 0:13:39.480 What are you saying? You didn't shut people the hell up? 0:13:39.850 --> 0:13:41.050 They beat Luke Fahey. 0:13:41.980 --> 0:13:43.720 Oh, no, they beat the Ohio State Buckeyes. 0:13:44.020 --> 0:13:47.230 No, they did not. That is not the Ohio State Buckeyes. 0:13:47.330 --> 0:13:49.410 This kid isn't from the replacements. 0:13:49.670 --> 0:13:50.270 Yes, he is. 0:13:50.610 --> 0:13:53.290 He does not belong on a major college football field. 0:13:53.390 --> 0:13:56.110 I watched the game ball. That is not the same team. 0:13:56.170 --> 0:13:58.350 But no one's going to judge this for style points. 0:13:58.550 --> 0:14:01.219 We said it there. Lincoln Riley and USC need to 0:14:01.260 --> 0:14:04.199 shut people up with a one-point win or a 30-point win, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.079 and he did so. And now it puts them in 0:14:06.100 --> 0:14:08.420 a position right now where... Is anyone calling for his 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.120 job this morning? Is anyone talking about buyouts? 0:14:10.700 --> 0:14:13.059 Well, no, but, I mean, what difference does it make? 0:14:13.100 --> 0:14:17.100 They're not going to beat Indiana. They're probably their 10.5-point underdog. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:17.630 Oh, man. 0:14:17.940 --> 0:14:21.080 Indiana had to bench their quarterback. USC now spells blood 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:21.620 in the water. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.260 I think Hoover's hurt, by the way, the Indiana quarterback. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:24.520 Sure. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.810 Yeah, no, Indiana's a double-digit favorite. 0:14:27.250 --> 0:14:32.670 But USC right now, they got a week off. Indiana, Maryland. UCLA. 0:14:32.850 --> 0:14:35.320 That UCLA game could be to take UCLA out of 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.340 the playoff picture and put themselves in it. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.260 You're telling me you saw something in the USC-Ohio State 0:14:40.300 --> 0:14:42.730 game that leads you to believe USC could go to 0:14:42.750 --> 0:14:44.290 the middle of the country and win on the road? 0:14:44.430 --> 0:14:44.950 Absolutely. 0:14:45.050 --> 0:14:49.280 They got whooped at Wisconsin. And Wisconsin's Awful. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.060 You said this week to week. See that at in 0:14:52.100 --> 0:14:52.800 front of the Indiana? 0:14:53.260 --> 0:14:54.600 That is the problem there. 0:14:54.620 --> 0:14:57.480 Now, you're saying that that Indiana home crowd is just insurmountable? 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.080 I'm saying USC cannot go on the road in the 0:15:00.100 --> 0:15:01.320 Big Ten and beat a good team. 0:15:01.780 --> 0:15:04.120 Probably not, but they have the opportunity. No one thought 0:15:04.140 --> 0:15:05.040 they were winning last night. 0:15:05.140 --> 0:15:09.520 They had the opportunity. No, I think if it wasn't USC, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.320 I don't think you would have even reacted to this game. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.440 I think you reacted to the helmet, not the actual team. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:14.420