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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Juky, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, Ima Nandez Police, Hey boo, it's me Roz

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the paranormal

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Speaker 1: and ooh do I love this person today, Deborah d

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Speaker 1: g o Vanni. If you don't know the comedy of

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Speaker 1: Deborah d Giovanni, I will give her an endorsement. And

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Speaker 1: let me tell you some of your favorite comedians. They'll

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Speaker 1: all tell you deb is that girl. She is so funny.

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Speaker 1: If you ever get the chance to see her where

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Speaker 1: you live, go but you'll see what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, let me read you a tale.

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Speaker 1: This one comes from Jamie. Jamie writes, Hi, Roz love

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Speaker 1: you love the show. Thanks Jamie. A few years ago,

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Speaker 1: I was back home visiting my family. Standing in the

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Speaker 1: and a family friend. We were recounting funny stories of

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Speaker 1: our dearly departed Grandpa Duncan, who had passed away the

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Speaker 1: previous year. Gramp, as we called him, had a great

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Speaker 1: I was telling the story of him teaching me to

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Speaker 1: of his little red pickup truck and Gramp was in

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Speaker 1: My family and I are all having a good laugh

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Speaker 1: We all stopped and looked at each other. I walked

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Speaker 1: There on the floor, in front of an open closet

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Speaker 1: lay the door harp. A door harp is a little

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Speaker 1: hang so that they ding the strings. These door harps

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Speaker 1: were popular in our family during the nineties. This particular

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Speaker 1: door harp was heart shaped and painted on it where

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Speaker 1: the words home is where the heart is. I turned

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Speaker 1: and all exclaimed Gramp along with what the fuck, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: been disturbed. Somehow, it was just the door harp that

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Speaker 1: Oh Grandpa duncan. I love that, he said. Does someone

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Speaker 1: That's adorable. Thanks for sending that, Jamie. And if you

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Speaker 1: the show, I'd love to read it. Just send it

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Speaker 1: to ghosted by rozat gmail dot com. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: talk to the hilarious Deborah d Giovanni and with the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't believe it, you guys, I

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Speaker 1: found her the funniest woman in the world. Debra di Giovanni, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Here, Thank you for bringing me here back to life

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 1: You kill me. I'm already laughing.

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Speaker 2: Stop. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm all right.

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Speaker 3: I just got back from Canada last night.

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Speaker 1: And you are Canadian.

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Speaker 3: I am Canadian.

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Speaker 2: This I wasn't in the part of Canada that I'm from.

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Speaker 2: I'm East coast, I'm from Toronto. But this was right

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you grew up in Canada. When did you

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Speaker 1: move to America? Oh?

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Speaker 2: My god, twenty fourteen, right as Trump, I thought, this

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's beautiful time.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, immigrants, and so yeah, that was It's been God,

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Speaker 2: it's been this since my tenth year. I guess.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, well, since we talk about like

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Speaker 2: God? Bless. I don't think I knew anyone in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: I'm not joking. I didn't need a crystal person I

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Speaker 2: I knew some people that were you know, would want

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Speaker 1: So do you own any crystals I have been given?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I have a feeling people have

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people see that I need something, so

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Speaker 2: Please take this. Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I can hurt.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it. You want to wear it my bra yes, please,

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't seek it out, but if

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I accept.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what kind do you have?

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Speaker 2: I definitely have some rose courts somewhere. Oh and that

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Speaker 2: Lindsay Adams, Oh, that Lindsay Adams. She's given me a

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Speaker 1: You are aren't You're in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: He comes back tonight. He's in he's been in Italy

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know how.

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Speaker 2: Gross Italy and Paris and wherever else he's been.

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Speaker 1: Dear God, Well get that rose quarts out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's all about attracting love and self love.

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Speaker 3: And I know it's worked.

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Speaker 2: I can finally take it out of my bra thank god,

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Speaker 2: it's been there for years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when it comes to just generally speaking, supernatural, paranormal,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's get right into it. I grew up

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Speaker 2: in a religious household. What kind Mom and dad like

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Speaker 2: so they went from like dad being Catholic, mom being

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Speaker 3: If you're wondering, We spot the crowds, but.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, a piece of toast they got just

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Speaker 2: You know here he is.

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Speaker 2: But that being said, my mother, in all of the

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Speaker 2: play with the wija board. This is the only thing

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Speaker 2: but I don't think I have a very good relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about wija boards all the time on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and I am the self appointed pr for

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Speaker 1: OUGI Incorporated, and I'm also like the defense attorney for them,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they've been given a bad rap

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Speaker 1: they'll come. I think that weed boords are just one

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Speaker 2: Percent it's such a religious like everything is a little

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: My mother, also my sex stock was also if you

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Speaker 3: So this is where I'm coming from. Do you understand?

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Speaker 1: And then I'm not gonna contact you through a Ouiji

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Speaker 2: You'll never see me again, you know, That's it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Not many give it to us.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So my grandfather on my mom's side was my favorite,

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Speaker 3: I was probably eleven, but he was.

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Speaker 3: She was like, you know, what would it be okay

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Speaker 2: Fine, no problem. So my mother had hung it in

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Speaker 2: and gave it to the other, to my other antique grape,

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Speaker 2: Distinctly having a moment where my mom who who brought

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Speaker 3: And I was like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: and everyone's like, Mom, seriously, don't know. I mean we're children,

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Speaker 2: like honestly, like nine year old brother, it wasn't us.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I remember that on at least

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Speaker 3: Like that kind of conversation.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I maybe he didn't like it at the other house.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were doing weird stuff with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean he wanted my mom to have it, I think,

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is the story and I might be saying

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Speaker 2: Now, Oka is silent?

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Speaker 1: And they were getting inventive. They put down some flower

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was personal, a little vendetta from the fortune teller.

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Speaker 1: So that's the story of the APPA call poulter Geist

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: At this what you're doing, epicac, it's.

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Speaker 1: What's the epicac?

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Speaker 3: Who knows a toba cow a tooba?

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Speaker 3: I feel like there is, do you know?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems that we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever going to be a time

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Speaker 2: I will say this. I'm thinking now of more Canadian stuff.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's older, and it's not a very

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Speaker 2: There's a great city, Halifax. It had a huge fire

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Yes, And the story goes that the windows have been

439
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: changed and blah blah blah, and it keeps returning that part.

440
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't know that might be lower, but apparently, I

441
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: mean I've seen it. I've seen it with my own eyes.

442
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: Cool. I was just thinking for people that haven't gone

443
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: back and listened to early episodes of this podcast. But

444
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: there was this place that we talked about on an

445
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: early episode called Stole Cemetery, and it just sort of

446
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: reminded me when you talk about the fire not burning

447
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: down this one place, this cemetery. They call it one

448
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: of the gateways to Hell. One of the things is

449
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: when it rains, there was I don't think it's still there,

450
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: this church on the property that didn't have a roof

451
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: on it, and it wouldn't get rain on the church.

452
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Everything around it would rain.

453
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: And the inside would stay dry.

454
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

455
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry.

456
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: Are you scared? You know?

457
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: I am taking notes. I'm like, I'm gonna look into

458
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: that later.

459
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: I've look at it that I like it, especially, like

460
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: just like you know, I bet you could take any town,

461
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: just any town, go into it and be like, what's

462
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: the ghost story? Oh, everyone's got one, right.

463
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: That's why it's fun where you specifically grew up. Were

464
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: there any like urban legends, you know what?

465
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: There was only one and this is a little eh,

466
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: not ghosty, but there was there was a god.

467
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: You know.

468
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: You think back now how we treated them right like

469
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: we were children. There was the scary man, you know

470
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. What do we call crazy Martin. I

471
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: think his name was je I mean like cold bludded,

472
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: but like he just lived in a big old house

473
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: by himself and get classic, you know. I think he

474
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: had been in the war and like obviously had had

475
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: a lot of PTSD, you know what I mean. So

476
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: he was a little odd as an individual, but we

477
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: made him like we just made him into the scariest creature. Yes,

478
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: did he sometimes stand on his balcony in his you know, undershirt,

479
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 2: his boxers an undershirt, and maybe I feel like it

480
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 2: was like people said he used to shoot a gun.

481
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. This is Canada.

482
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: It might have been like a sling shot, let's be honest.

483
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: But we were terrified of him, terrified of him, and

484
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: it was just because he was an old man that

485
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: sometimes did little weird things.

486
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: But it was crazy Martin.

487
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: And I remember his house was like behind our house,

488
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: but kind of over to the left as well, but

489
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: it was right connected by like a little pathway of

490
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: our two doors down neighbor. It was the grandparents of

491
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: our friend Lisa. We just call them Grandma and Grandpa

492
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: Carol because they were old, so we just call them

493
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: Grandma and Grandpa.

494
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: Disrespectful but anyway, So we would play on their property

495
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: because they had a fabulous tire.

496
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: Swing hanging off of one of the trees and it

497
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: was the best, but it boarded his property and sometimes

498
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: every once in a while he'd come out screaming for

499
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: us to leave, and we would run in terror, but

500
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: there was always someone on the swing, do you know

501
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: what I mean, So they had to stop the swing. Yes,

502
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: And you're like, how about you're terrified? You were terrified?

503
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows what crazy Martin's gonna do?

504
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean, which is this is not a dose. But

505
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: that was our legend. That was the legend I'm remembering.

506
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: When I was very young, we had a neighbor that

507
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: was a man that lived alone and had a very

508
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: overgrown yard and we just called him Jason because of

509
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: the Friday the thirteenth movies. And I'm sure he was

510
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: very nice.

511
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm shot, of course, but probably terrified to a child. Terrified.

512
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I look forward to being like the weird

513
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: rich lady in the neighborhood that all the kids are

514
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: scared of. I want nothing to do with kids.

515
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: As children, was so scared, but now I think that's

516
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: that's our goal. Good stay off of my lawn, that's

517
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: what I want.

518
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, no kids and not wanting people to. Yeah,

519
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: be loud, no offense, but I'm sure you kids were

520
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: screaming and having a gay old time out there. I

521
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that.

522
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: No.

523
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I lived by a high school at one point, Terrible,

524
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: and I would hear every day at three pm the

525
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: kids skateboarding by, and I wanted to yell out my

526
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: window and.

527
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: Scream, which you're like, I can't. I'm too young for that.

528
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Not yet.

529
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it though. It's the role I

530
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: was born to play.

531
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Oh my god, when you know, you know, I feel

532
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: like you know, they say that ghosts spirits often appear

533
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: to children. I'm like, that's probably because they're loud, they're noisy.

534
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: The spirit's probably like please shut the fuck up, like please,

535
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: And then there's a whole thing.

536
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean, they're more fun to scare,

537
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: They're easier to scare.

538
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I'm sure there's a lot of us that

539
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: are like can be faced with the ghosts and we'd

540
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: be like, eh, do you know what I mean? Yeah,

541
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: have you seen the price of gas? We would say,

542
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: do you think this scares me at all? No?

543
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't have health insurance exactly.

544
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: That terrifies me.

545
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of terrifying things, can I show you a haunted doll? Yes,

546
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: it's time for a segment I call the dolls are living? Okay, jiha,

547
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: could you please put up this doll for us?

548
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh God, I'm already terrified.

549
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be so scary.

550
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh what are we doing right now?

551
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Well, she's looking at me.

552
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Now. This is Scatter, that is their name. God. Scatter

553
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: is a discount diva only going for ninety nine cents,

554
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: which always adds to the legitimacy of these because I

555
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: see quite a range sometimes up into the thousands. And

556
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: to me, if you had a legit haunted doll, you

557
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: would probably price it low just to get rid of it.

558
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: You know what, That's a very good point, because if

559
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: it's a moneymaker, you're not like seriously, how scared are you?

560
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: Also, the touch of the rosary is very nice around

561
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: the neck.

562
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: There is a rosary. Okay, So what we're looking at here, Deborah,

563
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: describe what we're looking at. Please.

564
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: We are looking at the old timey doll that they

565
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: show in movies from the twenties. Okay, So it is

566
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: classic white nightgown, cotton right up to the neck, gent

567
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 2: I mean, very long along to the ground, like at

568
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: the lacey on the edge. You can't see hands or feet,

569
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: but we know that inside you know what this is. Inside,

570
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: it's got that like sand filled body. Do you know

571
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying?

572
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, And just.

573
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: The hands and feet are probably porcelain, as is the face,

574
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: which makes it a thousand times creepier because porcelain is

575
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: always cold. Even the face is like temperature cold, but

576
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: cold and spirit.

577
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you're on QBC right now.

578
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's going for ninety nine cents. It goes with

579
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: all decors, everybody. You can fit this in the wreck room.

580
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: The den. What do you want, hey, do you want

581
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: to scare your in laws? The guest room pointed at

582
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: the bed.

583
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Well, what really disturbs me about this is we know

584
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: that like, the body is probably a baby sized body,

585
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: but then it goes for like, I don't know, close

586
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: to a foot longer. The dress, the nightgown.

587
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: It looks like a confirmation dress or something like a

588
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: baptismal dress kind of thing. So maybe you know what

589
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the baptism went wrong. We don't know

590
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: at this point. Also, no hair, no hair, so it's

591
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: got a little cap on. Yeah, it's probably bald. It's

592
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: just it's not smiling. Its lips are too redd. It's

593
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: all very strange.

594
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: But why the long dress is so scary to me

595
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: is that either it would look great floating. Oh god, yeah,

596
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: it would look like a ghost because it's a white

597
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: long dress if it was floating for sure. Or what

598
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: if you lifted up the dress and found that there

599
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: were long legs underneath that actually went that leg.

600
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh my god, that would be.

601
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: So scary enough.

602
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Anyone listening, of course, has always go to ghosted by

603
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: ros on Instagram. Under the tab dolls you can see

604
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: a picture of scatter. You know, scatter comes with a

605
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: little bio. So let me tell you about the person

606
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: selling scatter for ninety nine cents. They have written this

607
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: is scatter his oh his, oh, I'm so sorry. We've

608
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: been mischief entering scatter.

609
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: We're so sorry. That's why he's mad.

610
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Scatter is thirteen inches tall. This may look like a

611
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: cute baby doll. No it doesn't, but I assure you

612
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: his looks are deceiving. Scatter was sent to me about

613
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: eight months ago from a paranormal group out of Tennessee.

614
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: They ended up with this doll after one of their

615
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: relatives had paranormal experiences with it. I am the type

616
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: to collect paranormal things, but not all people like keeping negatives.

617
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: I guess we call it in the community. This is

618
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: a negative. The group decided to part with this item

619
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: and a couple of others. With Scatter, you will feel

620
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: a dark presence and at all times catch glimpses of

621
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a man holding something in his hand. I can never

622
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: see him directly or fully. It's always super quick and

623
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: only a side view.

624
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: He doesn't look at it straight on because he's so scared.

625
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

626
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: It could be? Or maybe turn and it's gone. They

627
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: view the spirit box, which is a type of communication

628
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: that paranormal investigators use famously. I used one, and there's

629
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: a clip of it that recently went viral where I

630
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: was called a slur so they used a spear box,

631
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: and when they do, he will come across as rude

632
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: and cold. When he's annoyed, he will use vulgar language.

633
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: He gets annoyed by men quicker than he does women. Same.

634
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Most of his hostility is directed towards men. Scatter likes

635
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: to scatter when someone walks into a room. That's where

636
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: he got his name from. He will show activity until

637
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: you acknowledge it, and he then will stop. Well, that's

638
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: nice if he'll stop. If you're like, okay, I know

639
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: you're here. He will take and hide my things if

640
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I bother him for too long. It's usually my keys.

641
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh he'll move your keys. Okay. Scatter is negative but

642
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: not dangerous. Be sure to set ground rules with him.

643
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: He would be perfect for the haunted collector or paranormal investigator.

644
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to bring this creep. It just

645
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: says this creep.

646
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: Guy home, okay.

647
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: And then there's one little thing at the end. It

648
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: says I wanted to update some things I found out

649
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: about him. He's four to twenty friendly, he likes rock music,

650
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: and at times he puts off the faint smell of alcohol.

651
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: I gift him with shot glasses, cigars, and his favorite

652
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: now is toothpicks. So Scatter knows how to party.

653
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, ninety nine cents is a steal.

654
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: This really hards the pun, but it's a steal.

655
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: I can't get over the way you were describing this picture.

656
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I've never had somebody that was truly like a QVC

657
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: like you were trying.

658
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 3: I will go deep. I will go deep.

659
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?

660
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

661
00:34:53,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Please, it's time for ev pee or ev poo. Please.

662
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard the term evp no? Okay? It

663
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: stands for electronic voice phenomena. So this is anytime a

664
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: paranormal investigator or really anyone captures what they believe to

665
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: be a ghost speaking. So people will do this in

666
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: a variety of ways on different types of recording devices,

667
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: and then they PLoP it up on YouTube, and then

668
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: eventually it comes across my desk and I play it

669
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: for my listeners and my guests, and we try to

670
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: decide what we hear the ghosts saying, okay, so I'll

671
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: give you. I'll play it for you. Tell me what

672
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: you hear and then I'll give you four options, one

673
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: of them being the correct answer.

674
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: All right, I like this game.

675
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So this first one was posted by a YouTube

676
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: channel called Ghosts and Garbage payal Kids. So I believe

677
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: their YouTube channel is dedicated to Ghosts and Garbage pail

678
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Kids the eighties.

679
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: Excellent, Brandon.

680
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they we're driving through the Lexington Cemetery and Lexington, Kentucky,

681
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and they're in their car. I believe you can kind

682
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: of hear their blinker faintly going in the background, but

683
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: they're driving through the cemetery and then they hear this voice.

684
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Could you hear it?

685
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Yes?

686
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't love that. By the way, that sounded scary.

687
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.

688
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.

689
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Let me play it again.

690
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Okay, can I guess what I think

691
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: it says?

692
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

693
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: No fucking way.

694
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh it does sound like that a little bit. No

695
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: fucking way. Okay, Well, here's four options.

696
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: Okay, go is it a.

697
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: No fucking way? I mean, I think we already know,

698
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: but let's just listen to the other options.

699
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: Okay, go, get me go, is it be stay.

700
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: In your lane? Is it see I'll make you pay?

701
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: Or d go girl? You slay. Okay, it could be

702
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: one of those. Just keep your mind open. Let me

703
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: play it again.

704
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: One more time. Yeah, I think it's I mean, we

705
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: want to do we want to carry the skit on.

706
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: Is what we want to do, but we can't. We

707
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: have to say it's no fucking way.

708
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that is what ghosts and garbage pail kids believed.

709
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: It said so very good. Wow one cold.

710
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a tortured person. I have a lot

711
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: of trauma.

712
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see how you do with this next one.

713
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: This is the final one.

714
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

715
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: This was posted by Sherry Stewart on YouTube, and it's

716
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: at a famous haunted place called the Monroe House, which

717
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: is in Hartford City, Indiana. What is this ghost saying?

718
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: It's quick? Okay, let me put it again?

719
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: It again?

720
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: Okay, give me the options please and then I'll okay.

721
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Or do you want me to tell you what I think?

722
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: If you have one?

723
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Hang up?

724
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Hang up? That is not what Sherry Stewart believed.

725
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: My god, is it A I need that?

726
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Or all they need a little pick me up? Is

727
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: it B? This is not enough? Is it C? Deny

728
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: it all? Or is it D? Mister Laddie da, I

729
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: don't know what that means.

730
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: Are these real submissions?

731
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: My team of people have listened to this many times

732
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: and they believe it could sound like any of those. Okay,

733
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: and by my team of people, I do refer to me,

734
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: that is me very late at night on YouTube. Yes, okay,

735
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: here we go.

736
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Go come on, hang on, that's what that is.

737
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it is. See deny it all. Oh okay,

738
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: I hear this is not enough, but I can hear

739
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: not enough. Okay, wait, let's try to hear deny it all.

740
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, okay, well now that you say it, right, Okay,

741
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: come on, I know, let's try another one. What is

742
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: the other?

743
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: No, that's it. There's only two. That's it until next time. Okay,

744
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: So let's just do one last thing. I just want

745
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: to kind of take a survey and see what your

746
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: thoughts are on various unexplained phenomenon. Okay, maybe you have

747
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: a story, who knows whatever? Sure, Okay, a Canada favorite Bigfoot?

748
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, this one has been going on for

749
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: a long time, right, I mean, obviously everyone's got a

750
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: version of Bigfoot. Now, as I told you, it gets

751
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: very remote and very you know, it's it's a lot

752
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: up north. As we keep going north and Canada.

753
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: No one can hear you scream exactly.

754
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: No Canadian scream.

755
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: And it's also okay, what I think about bigfoot might

756
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: be a situation where a man found himself.

757
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: Alone for a really long time, do you know what

758
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean?

759
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Like, I think it could just be a very you know,

760
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: a person who's been living alone has adapted to the

761
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: terrain and the solitude.

762
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, and so he just lives out there.

763
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: Sure, maybe he's six seven and actually legitimately has a bigfoot.

764
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Has big feet and very hairy big feet and a

765
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: big heart.

766
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: As they say, hmm, I mean, I don't know. He

767
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: could be French, Canadian or Italian background, such as myself.

768
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: And trust me when I say I bought an electrolysist

769
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: her car, There's no way I haven't. I've definitely put

770
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: her children through college. What do we know? What do

771
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: we know?

772
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

773
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, take that for what you want.

774
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: What about UFOs and the existence of aliens?

775
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, my best friend Robin Dale is a big alien.

776
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh file, If that is a word, what do they

777
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: call that alien? Enthusiast.

778
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know a ufologist.

779
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: I like that though.

780
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: That's what they call like people that really are like

781
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: studying it. They call it a uphologist.

782
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Oh.

783
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if she does this anymore, but when

784
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: we were younger, she would go and listen to people speak.

785
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: She was very oh okay. I remember she used to

786
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: have a file that she said to me, I will

787
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: never let you read this, and I was like, I

788
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: don't want to. So she is very I'm scared. She's

789
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: very yeah, believes it strongly. And she said, if I'm

790
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: ever ready to know, then she'll tell me.

791
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: Temora. Let's call her right now and say I'm ready

792
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: tell us everything.

793
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to have part two. Our sign off.

794
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: She's my best friend for twenty six years. Our sign

795
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: off since the world of emojis has always been heart

796
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 2: alien face. We've been doing that for years and years

797
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: and years. She is an alien. She loves it.

798
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Do you think she's been up there?

799
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: I mean there was a good solid six months where

800
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I mean, in the

801
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: late nineties.

802
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: Where was she She says, it was, you know, a

803
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: work thing.

804
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyway, but she's upset, So I do

805
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: I believe in that.

806
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: Like again, it's I'm open to that as well, although because.

807
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: Again maybe it's the religion. I'm not sure they're gonna

808
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: come in peace. Really, I'm not so.

809
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: Sure that it's gonna be like hey, everybody.

810
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be like shoot first with lasers

811
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: or whatever they do, ask questions later. This is what

812
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: I think.

813
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: This is another thing I've said, as like, I'm the

814
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: defense attorney for they are clearly very smarter than us.

815
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

816
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Yes, if they wanted to, they would have done it

817
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: by now.

818
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: Fair point.

819
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: They are peaceful above us. How yeasy would that be

820
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: just to take us all out? Okay, they're peaceful, I

821
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: really think so.

822
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: So maybe a watchful, a watchful kind of thing is

823
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: more apt, you know what I mean. Maybe they're stead

824
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: of just you know what, keeping keeping tabs just to

825
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: make sure that we're okay.

826
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't want to intervene, but they

827
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: lately are like, you guys, what is going on down there?

828
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Seriously, it's like the whales that are ramming boats. This

829
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: is what's happening. I think, yes, like enough.

830
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Were are their view when they look out their windows,

831
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I know, and they're like this used to be beautiful.

832
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: They're like seriously, they're like, shut the blinds. Shut the blinds. Yeah,

833
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: that's what they're doing now because it's just yeah, we're sad.

834
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think of psychics?

835
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh? No, this, I believe in that too, I really do.

836
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: I believe that people just I think we all vibrate

837
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: at different levels.

838
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, different planes of existence?

839
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: What level do you vibrate at?

840
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: Like I'm barely above ground level?

841
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: Like I mean, on a good day, on a good day,

842
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: I've a couple inches off the ground if I'm lucky.

843
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: But I feel like I do. I believe that people

844
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: just have more intuition.

845
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: But have you been to a psychic yourself?

846
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: No? The only thing I have done, which this is

847
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: probably why I like appreciate it. One time I was

848
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: I don't know where, somewhere with all my teenage friends.

849
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: I was probably like eighteen. And you know I have

850
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: a twin sister, right, I have a fraternal twin sister.

851
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: So we're nothing alike. She's seven minutes older than me.

852
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: Nothing alike.

853
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: Do you look alike at all?

854
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: No? Nothing?

855
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: Okay? Wow, truly.

856
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: We don't look like sisters.

857
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: We never have. Yeah, we just looked like friends. But anyway,

858
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: so this was probably when we were young, and there

859
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: was I remember it was sort of like a vacationy

860
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: thing and so there was like a street fair kind

861
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: of vibe and there was doing palm reading and so on.

862
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: So that was great. And then he read my sister Joanne,

863
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: and then a bunch of our friends, and then he

864
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: read me and he stopped and he was like, okay,

865
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: one second, and chose my sister out of the group

866
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: as my twin.

867
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: So interesting.

868
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

869
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing I was just thinking because I

870
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: just talked to Dylan Adler, the hilarious comedian who is

871
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: a twin.

872
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has an identical brother, yes.

873
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: And I asked him my favorite thing to ask twins,

874
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: which is, have you ever had like weird twin intuition

875
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: things where you know that your twin is in danger

876
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: or whatever? And he said, no, but what about you?

877
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: See now I would say the same, because again, I

878
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: do think it's also because we are fraternal. I think

879
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: that might be more of an identical twin thing phenomenon.

880
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: But I will say that there is. I don't know

881
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: if there's a very intense sort of like just there's

882
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: a connection there just is you know, like I know

883
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: when like e through a text, you know, not even

884
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: just like are you mad? Like I know when my

885
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: sister is upset, even just through texting. Yeah, like I

886
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: just know it's like now's the time to call her.

887
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: Does that mean anything? No? Or is it just because

888
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, we've been on this earth together for a

889
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: long time and she's still she was my very very

890
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: very best friend all of our youth, our twenties, you know,

891
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: she gets married whatever, so it's not as close, but

892
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: like it was, you know, it was a never speaking

893
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: or thoughts orever, but there was just a.

894
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: Very intense need to protect each other.

895
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: M hmm.

896
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: So it's sort of been like that, you know, just

897
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: not like oh I was thinking about you, what's going on?

898
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: That kind of thing, do you know? With alarming accuracy?

899
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Cool, all right, let's do one last one. Okay, okay,

900
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: lackness monster.

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: You know what, that one probably the most out of

902
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: all of them, because that would just be evolutionary thing.

903
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: The most out of all of them, you believe in it.

904
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: I think the most likely to be true, you know,

905
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: because it just feels like to me, you know, ocean, lakes, water, whatever,

906
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: it's very we don't know. You know, there are and

907
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: we all hear all the time that there's areas of

908
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: ocean that we'll never see. You know. Come on, you're.

909
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: Telling me that some stuff doesn't live down there.

910
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: The lock where it, like loch Nets is not.

911
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Huge huge, It's not ocean.

912
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Apparently people still say they see

913
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: that thing.

914
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: They still see it?

915
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Is that the same? Is there an og pogo? Am

916
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: I making that opposite? Canadian?

917
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar. Are you putting a spell on me?

918
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Og Pogo?

919
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: I've done it? Thank you for much.

920
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: That's it.

921
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: That's the only reason I said yes to this podcast.

922
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Wait, what is og pogo? Is that like a creature?

923
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: Let's look up og Pogo?

924
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: I feel like it was a Lochnessy type vibe related somewhere,

925
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: but it might be Canadian okay.

926
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: Og pogo ooh. In Canadian folklore, boom, there we go.

927
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: The og Pogo is a lake monster that is said

928
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: to inhabit o Canagan Lake in British Columbia.

929
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okanagan Lake.

930
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, Okanagan. Oh, that sounds way better. Some scholars

931
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: have charted the entity's development from First Nations folklore and

932
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 1: widespread water monster folklore motifs. The og Pogo now plays

933
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: a role in the commercial symbolism and media representation of

934
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: the region. That is from the ogo Pogo's Wikipedia page.

935
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: It seems like so many places in the world have

936
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: a bigfoot type creature, yes.

937
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: And a lockness water dwelling they do. It feels like

938
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: every culture has something, has something.

939
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, and these go back way, way, way far

940
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: when they weren't texting and online and talking to each

941
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: other or even reading books that each other wrote. So

942
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, that makes it seem legit.

943
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: It's all stories being passed down from generation to generation,

944
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: you know.

945
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: But could it be like a descendant of like a dinosaur.

946
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that those are all the things you know. M anyway, Sorr,

947
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: I've added an og pogoch of your life. There we are.

948
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Thank you you're OCODMN.

949
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: This has been so fun. Please come back sometime.

950
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: I will. I will.

951
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: You know what, maybe I'll get some more Canadian info

952
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: for you.

953
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Yes, be our Canadian correspondent.

954
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: Yes, because you know, actually I just finished touring with

955
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: the boys, and like, I remember one story of a farmhouse,

956
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: so let me, let me, let me do some recon.

957
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: Ooh a teaser. Tune in for the farmhouse story next

958
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: time we have de Giovanni back. Okay, can you tell

959
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Speaker 1: everyone what you want them to know where to find you?

960
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: All that stuff?

961
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: So Instagram Deborah DG d e b r A DG

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Speaker 2: TikTok Deborah DG but d e b r A d

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Speaker 2: I G I I know we like to keep it confuseding.

964
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: My new album will be coming out soon mid mid April.

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Speaker 2: Untitled as of this moment, So that album will be

966
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: coming out, and I just got just got some touring

967
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Speaker 2: coming up, so I'll be on the Pacific Northwest for

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Speaker 2: March and April.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, ooh, I know we got listeners over there.

970
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: I was over there not that long ago. And people

971
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: go see Deborah Yah, so funny. If you thought this

972
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: was funny, just wait until you see her on stage

973
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: and there's not me piping in every five seconds.

974
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 3: All right, Thank you so much, Annie.

975
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Deborah. Be sure to go

976
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Speaker 1: check her out live and on stage. She's the best,

977
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Speaker 1: and so are you. I love you. All both living

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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

979
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly

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00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

981
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

982
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,840
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983
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00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

989
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Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Carroll. Executive produced

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