WEBVTT - The EA Podcast: Live at the Combine - Day 2 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.239 Good afternoon, Jets Nation. Eric Allen here at the two 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:17.280 thousand seventeen NFL Combine. We're at the Indianapolis Convention Center. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.040 I'm joined now alongside by Dane Brugler, who is getting 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.640 ready for the draft. You can file him at d 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.480 P Brugler on Twitter. He is a must follow this 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.720 time of year all the way up to the draft. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.000 Guys written more than four hundred reports and there are 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.720 only three hundred and thirty prospects here. Uh, Dane, this 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.519 is your time of year, isn't it. This is the 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.080 best time of the year. You know. I do this 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:42.839 three hundred sixty five days out of the year, So 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.040 now it's fun when everyone else is, you know, coming 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.960 around in my wheelhouse to talk about these prospects. Uh. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.560 Like you mentioned three guys here, only two fifty or 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.080 so will be drafted, and plenty of the guys that 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.240 will be drafted won't be here. So non combined invites 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.760 so a lot on the line this week for the 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.960 players here. That us talking to a former Jet and 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.679 a former Dallas Cowboy and former Kansas City chief fullback 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.520 Tony Richester today and he came out of Auburn about 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.119 two forty pounds ran a four four at that time 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.280 and was undrafted. So in addition to everybody's gonna be drafted, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.280 they're gonna be guys here are not here who are 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.800 actually gonna play on NFL rosters next year. Absolutely, there's 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.160 an average of about thirty five to thirty seven thirty 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.360 eight guys who will be drafted who are non combined invites, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.760 so about fiftent of the field who were actually drafted. Uh. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.320 And then here there's three hundred thirty players, over a 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.240 hundred players who were here this week will not get drafted. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.319 So just because you have a combined invite does not 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.319 mean you're gonna get drafted. And just because you didn't 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.280 receive one and you're not here this week, while yes, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.040 it's a missed opportunity, if you impress enough during the 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.680 All Star circuit and during the pro days and the workouts, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.920 you still have a great chance to get drafted. Uh. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.840 Speaking on drafted guys, UH, what kind of grade did 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.680 they have on Temple speedster Robbie Anderson Last year? The 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.920 rookie had forty two receptions for the Jets. He impressed 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.080 during the Shrine game. Uh, that was his chance to shine, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.720 and he did a player who had some issues in 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.720 his background. You know it was he a corner, was 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.200 he a receiver? You know where did he fit best? 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.160 But I'd tell you what he did the Shrine game 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:26.000 I think really helped him get drafted. Now today really 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:31.040 starting to kick it up a notch. Um heights, weights, uh, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:35.040 measurements and uh. One thing you tweeted about today was 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.320 about a quarterbacks heighte Uh. People have been talking about 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.480 Mitch Drobiski, a guy who started North Carolina only thirteen 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:47.320 games in his career, but he's obviously received um a 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.640 lot of notice of late. A lot of people are 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.440 saying that this guy could be a top ten pick. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.640 We'll have to see where he falls. You said, Uh, 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.600 he measured in at six two For people at home, 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.959 Let's say, what's the difference between six one and a 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.160 half and six two? Can you tell us? Well, you know, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.000 for certain positions with certain teams, they're just there's thresholds. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:08.960 You know, you want to see a player come in 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.600 at least six to hand size. You wanna some teams 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.000 look at okay, at least nine inches, some a little 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.120 more want at least nine and a half inches. So 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.960 It depends on the team, depends on the evaluator. And 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.519 if you're going to possibly invest a top ten pick, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.080 a first round pick in a Mitch Drobiski, you want 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.000 him to at least hit that six two threshold, which 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.960 you did. Came in at six o two one, which 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.320 is six two and one eighth of an inch um, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.600 So a good day for him. Also a good day 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.040 for Deshaun Watson came in at six two and a half, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.160 but the height wasn't the issue. It was the weight 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.640 and he came in a two one pounds which was 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.800 a great wait for him. Good build. You know, we 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.880 saw him against Alabama what he did this past year. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.160 Couldn't he hold up physically for a sixteen game schedule 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.920 playing like he did against Alabama taking all those hits, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.520 that's the question. But scouts were worry he'd come in 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.680 about two pounds. That wasn't the case, a thicker bill 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.680 two one pounds. So a good day for these quarterbacks 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.800 so far. So for all those draft experts at home, 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.080 you gotta get this guy's book at DP Brugler. You 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.400 can find him on Twitter. It's gonna be wrapping it 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.360 up in the next couple of weeks. He said, you're 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.280 working day and night on that. Proudly did that end up? 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.120 March is gonna come out. It's gonna get you ready 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.160 for the draft. But we're talking about quarterbacks. You mentioned 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:25.320 Rabinsky and Deshaun Watson. Oh where uh do you have 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.800 these guys at the top of the draft at this 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.120 point right now? What what are you seeing? And how 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.679 many eventually you think you're gonna fall on that first round? 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.000 That's the big question. I think this reminds me a 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.200 lot of two thousand and fourteen class where we had 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.680 Blake Boardles, we had Johnny Manziel, we had David Carr 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.280 or JOm me Derek Carr, and then we had uh 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.240 Teddy Bridgewater, you know, but we weren't sure what order 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.680 they come off the board. We weren't sure how many 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.120 would go top ten, how many go first round. And 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.000 you know, it turns out the fourth of that group 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.280 who didn't go in the first round car has been 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.720 the best so far. So you know, I think it 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.120 and it will be similar this year where we don't 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.279 know the order right now. I don't think we're gonna 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.640 know a day before the draft, which will make it 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.800 more interesting. We're not gonna have a consensus quarterback this year. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.360 Some teams will prefer Mr. Robiskie. I think some will 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.080 prefer the upside of a Deshaun Kaiser from Notre Dame. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:23.680 Someone prefer the intangibles, the winning attitude that Deshaun Watson brings. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.720 And then you have Pat Mahomes, who is just now. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.640 He is well, he's tough because physically has everything you want. Size, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.440 he's an athlete. He can uh, you know, throw the ball, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.120 you can make all of the NFL throws. But coming 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.599 from that air raid offense, how where is he mentally 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.520 in his development? How long before he's ready to get 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.840 on the field. That plays a big part in where 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.360 he gets drafted. So a lot of questions with his 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.960 quarterback group. And I don't think we're gonna figure out 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.599 the order today just because there's so much different opinions 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.400 on these guys from team to team, evaluator to evaluator. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.160 I think at least one or two ago in the 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.200 top ten, top fifteen, and then we'll have to see 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.479 how how it plays out after that. How about a 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.920 quick breakdown of uh, these guys at the top. Let's 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:12.080 let's start with true whisky. Uh, thirteen game starter, right, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.280 U was a backup um, And I'll just give a 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.679 little rundown on what I know is that very accurate 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.960 quarterback in North Carolina. But again, he's gonna be making 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.919 a big system jump. What's your take? Yeah, I know 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.040 that's a good background for him. Uh. And that's really 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.800 the biggest issue is the sample size. Thirteen game starter. Ideally, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.640 for drafting a quarterback that high, you want more of 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.400 a sample size than just a one year But you 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.560 watch him on film and all thirteen games you see him. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.000 He has the size, he has, the athleticism, really mobile quarterback, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.719 the arm strength, the armed talent, very accurate. Like you said, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.039 the ball placement is what you want. I think the 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.440 biggest thing with him is he's not elite in any 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.920 one of those areas. He doesn't have that distinguishing trait, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.520 but he's pretty good across the board and so not 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.800 have that fatal flaw is kind of his calling card, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.520 and that that's you can win with guys like that. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.159 You know, you don't have to have a guy who's 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.880 elite in one area. You know, he just can't make 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.680 those mistakes. And I think that's what something you have 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.640 with Mr Robiskie. Now, if you want more of an 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.880 upside guy that I think Kaiser is who's really going 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.160 to appeal to these teams because I think when you 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.200 project him two to three years from now, you get 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.640 excited about where he can be. The physical traits are there, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.440 the mental capacity is there. But he's been inconsistent this year. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.240 And how do you weigh Okay last year as a 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.680 freshman when he had a top ten left tackle Ronnie Stanley, Uh, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.160 he had c J Process at running back, little fuller receiver, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.200 first round about wide receiver. He lost four of his 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.160 five top receivers from that year. So this year goes 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.960 into the year and it was just downhill from the start. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.320 You know, Texas game played well, Michigan State played well, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.480 and then just downhill and that really was indicative of 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.040 Notre Dame season as a whole. But how do you 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.840 weigh that? Um, you know, with just the supporting cast, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.040 the coaching was an issue. Did you know Brian Kelly 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.480 really want Deshaun Kaiser out there? Just there's a lot 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.160 of question sans with Kaiser, but there's a lot to 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.480 like as well. So what about the system does that 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.960 help him? Uh, comparably to the other two guys that 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.560 are mentioned in that mix early on, Watson and trow 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.160 Bisky to an extent, mostly shotgun, but a lot of 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.080 downfield routes. Uh. You see him make left to right progressions, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.880 whole field reads, and that's something you want to see, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.920 you know. And that's something that Pat Mahomes. That's a 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.160 stigma he has to overcome, coming from that air raid 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.840 offense where you just look at the mechanics and they're 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.640 all over the place. He has a better back pedal 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.920 than some corners in this draft, which is not a 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.920 good thing. You know. You don't want to see that. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.160 You want to see him be more tight with his 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.040 mechanics and his fundamentals. Um, you know, can you learn that, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.320 can you get better? Sure, but you just haven't seen 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.920 it in a game setting. And you know, we talk 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.600 about changing up a guy's routine and it's muscle memory. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.199 So with Mahomes you might have to kind of live 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.800 and die with. You know who he is, and he 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.200 reminds me a lot of Johnny Manzeld. He he's bigger, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.800 he has a better arm, and there's no field questions. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.920 But in terms of on the field you have a 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.680 guy he likes to improvise, who will throw a prayer 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.319 up sometimes and hope that his guy can come down 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.040 with it. But I tell you, he's a fun tape 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.160 to watch and you get kind of you know, maybe 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.600 I can believe in this guy, like maybe a team 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.040 grabs him in the first round. And see, we've seen 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:24.080 stranger things. UM. Cornerbacks, the Jets released Darrell Revis. They 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.560 took Justin Burr's last year fourth round pick out of 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.360 and See State. I thought he did some nice things 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.880 at the end of his first season of action. But 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:38.560 this is supposed to be another defensive draft at the top, UM, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.720 what do you make of the elite corners? And I 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.600 guess it all starts with Marshawn Latimore and this will 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.040 be a big week for him. Um. For the medicals. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:48.599 You know, he didn't play his first two years in 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.440 Oh how A State because of you know what they 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.559 called chronic hamstring issues, and so what's going on with 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.960 that any long term worries concerns, UM, So the medicals 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.559 will be first and foremost for him. And then once 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.760 he's on the field, I expected to perform really well. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.640 When you watch him on tape, you just don't see separation. Uh. 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.360 He has that quick twitch that you want, the speed. Uh, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.600 he can play press, he can play off with Lattimore. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.080 Like I said, you just you never saw receivers able 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.400 to separate, and then when they did, he has that 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.240 that recovery speed where he can make that up that 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.360 closing burst and make a play on the ball. So 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.240 I think Lattimore uh is clearly the top corner this year, 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.000 and I think every one in the top ten will 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.400 be considering him now. Dame Brugler joins us from India 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.840 two thousand seventeen NFL combine underway. We're gonna be joined 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.760 by Jets legend Kevin in a few moments. Uh. Uh. Dan, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.760 We're talking to corners who's maybe not at Lattimore's levelment 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:45.760 but maybe a step or two below there. And you believe, 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.800 in your mind is first round talent. I think there's 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.080 a few. Marlin Humphrey from Alabama, UH really interesting because 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.319 he has, you know, physically has everything you want, uh, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.440 the length, the size of speed. Uh is the son 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.640 of Bobby Humphrey, first round running back back in the 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.680 day for another Alabama guy. Uh. So you know with Humphrey. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.800 You worry about downfield, getting his head turned around finding 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.320 the football. But a lot of coaches will think they 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.199 can coach that. You know, but he has what you 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.400 can't teach, has the physical traits. I think Marlon Humphrey 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.400 is gonna come off the board early. Sydney Jones I 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.240 like quite a bit at the corner from Washington. I'm 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.320 interesting to see what he weighs in at on tape. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.120 He's rail thin and so it's not an issue. But 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.800 is he a hundred eighty pounds or is he closer 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.160 to two h pounds? Hopefully can play outside, And one 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.400 thing I like about him is he can play different schemes. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.040 You wanted the press, you want him to play a 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.040 little zone, playoff, he can. You can do different things. Um, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.720 he's a former receiver in high school and you see 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.120 that those ball skills. When the balls in the year, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.720 he goes and gets it. So I think Sidney Jones 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.559 is right there in that mix. And then one of 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.000 the top seniors this year. He's not gonna come in 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.760 well in terms of the measurements. George Lewis from Michigan, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.240 But I tell you this guy can play. Uh guy 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.120 that doesn't him down in a mobile. Yeah, the senior 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.560 boy in a good week. You have to get over 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.199 the size. And maybe he's only a nickel for you. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.679 I don't know if you can play any outside, but 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.199 if he's only a nickel, you can work with that. Um. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.800 But he's fast, he knows how to cover, he's tough, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.120 outstanding ball skills. You just have to get over the 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.200 lack of size. Typically, and you know this so well. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.760 In the draft, there's usually a couple of lineman offensive 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.960 lineman that you're gonna see go early in that top 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.000 five range, top ten range. Right now, it doesn't seem 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.319 that way, does it. It's it's not a great year 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.400 for offensive lineman, and I should say offensive tackle and 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.760 on center guard. I think there's some there's some decent 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.000 depth there um, starting with Forest lamp out of Western Kentucky, 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.280 who I think is a first round pick. But then 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.439 at tackle, a lot of question marks and if you 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.719 don't get your guy early, you're gonna be out of 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.679 luck later on. So Ryan ram Check, the tackle from Wisconsin, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.160 I think he's a top guy. Well to see how 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.560 his hip, what's going on there? That has to clear 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.280 And then you have a few guys with question marks. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.760 Cam Robinson from Alabama, Garrett Bowls from Utah Bowls. He's 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.319 gonna be a twenty five year old rookie and he 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.360 needs some work. He's a fantastic athlete, but in terms 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.000 of strength, in his power, his technique, he needs some work. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.000 They're just a fascinating backstory with him. Was off from 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.840 took off a few years from football, so right well, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.000 and even after high school we got into some trouble, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.160 kind of went away from football, and then he went 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.400 to on that mission that kind of invigorated his his 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.240 love for football again. And so a lot of a 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.760 lot of things going on with Bowls. I think that 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.040 athleticism still gets him in the first round, and the 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.480 fact that, like I said, if you don't get that 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.319 tackle early, you're gonna be out of luck. So these guys, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.320 these tackles are gonna be pushed up a little bit. Uh. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.079 Speaking of Bowls, we're gonna be talking about Todd Bowls, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.240 who addressed the media here in Indianapolis earlier today with 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:41.120 s N Wise Ralph Faciano here momentarily, Dane, what about 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.520 the running backs? Uh? Leonard flour Neett is up there 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.120 and we saw him an Laite player Louisiana State, and 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.720 then Delvin Cook. Um. Most people when you look at 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.800 Mick drafts, and I know it's not all about my 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.040 drafts at this point, but they have Leonard a little 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.280 bit ahead at Delvin Cook, who, in your mind in 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.800 five years going to be the better player Dalman Cook 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.920 is to meet the top running back in this class. Uh, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.920 and I like four net he's a freak. You know, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.199 there's not a running back in today's NFL that you 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.160 can really truly compare him to. Uh. We just don't 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.679 have anyone like that. But Dalvin Cook, I think everything's there, uh, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.960 in terms of his physically, his explosion, his ability to 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.440 string together moves make guys miss, and then mentally his vision, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.360 his run, tempo, his patience. He's the game teachers again. Really, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.120 he can take the ball to the house anytime he has. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.880 Absolutely he's that type of back. The biggest thing with 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.520 him is, since I believe his junior year in high school, 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.800 he has had three shoulder surgeries, came in at two 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.240 ten pounds. He's not the biggest guy. Tell you what 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.640 if you told me that over the next five to 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.960 seven years, he's gonna average fourteen starts a year. I'd 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.520 say is the best running back to come out the 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.800 last few years. But I just worried that that's not 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.800 going to be the case with him. Uh So, hopefully 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.720 he's able to hold up physically, but I think that 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.400 might be the worry with teams and why he might 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.200 not be the first running back draft and why he 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.400 might not go top fifteen like his talent says he 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.640 should these at the end of the day, somebody uh 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.520 takes a staff at him, maybe in the top ten. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.720 I think it. I think it depends on what we 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.680 hear from the medicals. I think that's what's going on 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.280 to shoulders, what's going on, you know, with some of 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.920 the medical information, that will be the key if it comes. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.200 You know, if he gets two thumbs up from the 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.440 trainer and from the medical staffs, then absolutely he's one 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.240 of the top ten players in this draft just based 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.080 on talent, and so I think he we're going to 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.040 see him somewhere in top fifteen if the medicals come back. Okay, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.000 McCaffrey ultra productive at a Stanford. Do you see him 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.480 making his way in the first round? How does he 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.520 project on the next level? He should. There's no reason 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.040 not to keep out of the first round. If you're not. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.600 If you don't know how to use Christian McCaffrey, then uh, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.080 you need to change the way you call plays. He's 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.640 he's a first round talent. Is he a player that 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.680 you want carrying the ball five times a game? No, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.760 but you want him touching the ball twenty five times 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.760 a game. He's capable of sixteen eighteen carries, six seven 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.280 eight targets a game. Uh, my comparisons Brian Westbrook. You know, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.840 use him in the backfield, but he can also go 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.800 out in the slot, put him out side. This is 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.720 a player who he'll he's a better route runner than 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.960 some of the receivers that will probably drafted ahead of him. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.800 I mean, he's that diverse with what he can do 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.920 on offense as well as he's a returner. So with 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.360 Christian McCaffrey, he's one of those smartest runners I've seen. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.240 He understands, you know, how to read his blocks with 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.560 the defenders trying to do make guys miss, and he 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.200 knows when the mission is over, so he gets down 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.200 and he doesn't take a lot of hard hits. I 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.760 think Christian McCaffrey is absolutely a first round pick and 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.920 I'll be surprised if he doesn't go one day one. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.320 What do you think about Mike mccagnen as a talent evaluator. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.680 He's a guy that you're very familiar with the Texas 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.680 roots and UM over the first two drafts, I think 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.920 he's done a very nice job. Obviously, we were just 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.440 talking about it before we came out live here. He 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.240 took Leonard Williams number six overall with this first overall pick, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.160 stuck to his guns, the best player available, philosophy, Guy 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.880 Lands and the Pro Bowl. Uh, Darren Lee. I know 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.720 people said he didn't have a stellar season. I thought 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.080 he started coming on a lot towards the end. He's 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.600 gonna be that three down linebacker that the Jets need, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.760 and I think he could be a fixture for this 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.399 team for years to come as well. And then we 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.440 think about last year's draft, Um, you go to the 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.159 third round, Jordan Jenkins, he became a starter for you, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.080 a stout edge center. I mean he might never be 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.760 the ten sac a year guy, but he can get 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.040 to the quarterback and he also can set that edge 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.960 and b a syl player for you. But in the 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.680 fourth round, Justin Burrs, maybe he's starting for you this 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.960 year in the fifth round. I thought he did a 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.399 nice job by getting moving back into the draft to 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.160 get Brandon Ships, right, he gave up a fourth round pick. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.400 People are like, oh, you gave up a fourth round 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.640 pick and next year's draft. But he was figuring he'd 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.040 get a compensatory selection this year, which he in fact has. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.840 So just overall, how do you think he's done his 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.159 first two years? Um as the GM of the Jets. Uh, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.280 as far as drafting his concerned, he's done a good job. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.840 I've known Mike for a while since he was in Houston, UH, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.720 and would have always appreciated with him is he's he's 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.879 a scout at heart, so he knows how to evaluate. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.760 He's at all the All Star Games. Uh. You know, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.240 there's not an event too small. If there's a possible 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.200 NFL caliber player there, he's there. He's evaluating. Uh, he 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.480 is a scout at heart, and so I always enjoy 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.080 when I have a chance to catch up with with Mike. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.520 And I've I've really appreciated his his grind for a 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.119 long time. UM, and so I think so far, you know, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.280 in two drafts, he's he's done a solid job. I think, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.000 you know, George Jenkins really outplayed his draft slot and 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:31.800 I think he'll continue to do that. Like you said, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.200 he might not be an elite player who uh you know, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.080 as an all pro, but I think he'll outplay his 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.600 draft slot and be a solid contributor. Darren Lee, I 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.600 think people need to remember as a richer sophomore when 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.800 he came out of out house state, this is a 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.280 guy who could have used another year in school. Uh. 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:45.960 And I even said that on Twitter, and he called 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.760 me darrenly called me out on Twitter for saying that. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.359 But you know, I think he will get better in 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.239 year two and year three. Um So I give Mike 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.240 a lot of credit for what he's done. Eager to 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.200 see what he does now with another top ten pick, 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.199 you know, back in the top ten, plenty of options, uh, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.720 you know, could he possibly go quarterback? Could he you know, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.680 maybe help that defensive secondary, But there will be several 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.720 options he could go. So eager to see what he 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.359 does there. Well, we're eager to see your book. It's 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.680 at DP Burglar. You guys can jump on there, follow 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.280 him on Twitter. You're gonna get all your draft information, Dane, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.600 so great catching up. Make sure you get some rest 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.239 this week, all right, thanks, Dane brewser uh joins us 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.160 here in Indianapolis at the Convention Center. Momentarily we're gonna 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.200 be joined by Ralph Acciano, who was at Todd Bowls 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:40.399 news gathering today in Indianapolis. The Jets head coach um 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:45.240 addressed the media today. Uh here in Indie. Ralph was 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:49.639 there and we're bringing him on set right now and 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:55.040 if ill experience underway here Indianapolis. Ralph, thanks for joining 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.320 us and my pleasure. How are you? I'm great? Uh. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:02.760 Your takeaways uh from today's morning briefing an early star 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.639 for everybody. It was a little early for me, but uh, 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.639 you know, it was somewhat interesting and typical coach fashion. 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.320 Todd Bowls did not reveal a lot of things, but 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.280 he shed a little more light on the Darrell Rievaus release, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.040 which he insisted was had nothing to do with his arrest, 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.600 had more to do with the financials which with his play. Um. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.119 They did consider moving him to safety, but when you 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.960 factor in the fifteen point three million dollar capit, it 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.680 just wasn't worth keeping around just to find out whether 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.199 he could play that position. Um, So that was one 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.720 of the big topics, and he kind of hinted a 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.640 little bit at some of the things that they're thinking 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.920 of in the off season, for example, the quarterbacks. He 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.520 did say they're going to look at the veteran quarterback market, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.639 and that honestly, whatever decisions or questions the Jets have 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.959 heading into the off season, they all pale in comparison 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.080 to who is that quarterback And it seems clear that 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.240 they've got their eyes set on somebody and maybe a 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.359 few guys on the open market before we get to 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.880 the quarterbacks. Ralph, I don't want to paraphrase here. I'm 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.760 actually gonna take the quote from Todd Bowls today. This 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.879 stood out to me. He said, as a coach, you 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.600 get energized every year because you're always trying to win 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.880 the Super Bowl. There's no rebuilding. You're always trying to win. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.200 Whether you have younger or older players, you're always trying 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.040 to win and get better. That's how I coach and 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.639 how I'm going to be every day, whether it's street 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.119 ball or professional ball, I'm trying to win. So you 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.399 know part of that is, well, what else is a 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.119 coach to say? Supposed to say. But a lot of 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.280 that is Todd Bowles. I mean, the reality is, from 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.399 all appearances, the Jets are rebuilding. But Todd Bowles is 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.240 not going into this season thinking, Okay, in a couple 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.639 of years, I'll have a winner. He's still looking for 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.800 the best players. And he's right when he says that 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.920 those could be young players at twenty two year old 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.920 come out of college, could be better than a twenty 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:51.840 eight year old veteran at the end of his career 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.240 um and so he's looking for the best guys. He 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.280 thinks he can put together a roster once he sees 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.640 free agency with a lot of cap room to spend there, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.200 once he sees the draft they have I picks, maybe 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.200 they can put together a winner. He's not going to 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.320 diminish the expectations, not for the fans of the organization, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.080 but especially for the players. I don't think he wants 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.240 to go into the locker room it's any veteran players 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.280 and say relaxed guys will rebuilding. They're gonna go for it. 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.280 Whether that's realistic or not, we'll find out. But stranger 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.040 things have happened. So what do you make of the 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.600 quarterback market? After we leave Indy Ralph, you know you're 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.159 gonna be covering it every day. Free agncy starting and 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.720 just a few days because Indianapolis is late this year, 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.000 it's already March second, and before you know it, free 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.040 agency starts next week. Yeah, it's it's not a great 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.280 quarterback market and it never is. I mean, the reality is, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.320 if you are an elite quarterback, you're never gonna hit 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.560 free agency. You know, the Eli Mannings and Matt Ryan's 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.080 and Drew Brees, they get those contracts un there's a 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.199 reason why teams keep them. So you're looking at second 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.600 tier guys with some promise. Mike Glennon and the Buccaneers 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.480 jumps off the page. Um, you're looking at a guy 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.280 who has is a little bit of damaged goods and 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.280 Jake cut Or, who you know is one of the 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.400 more accomplished guys out there, but all of the bill 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.160 is still under contract with right not assuming he becomes 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:08.359 a free agent. Let's say with Colin Kaepernick, who I 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.040 guess the forty Niners are gonna allow to become a 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.760 free agent. There are guys with question marks. The problem 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.560 is while they may not be any of them may 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.160 may not be ideal candidates, they will be expensive because 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.520 teams get desperate when they don't have a quarterback. So 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.919 the question becomes, if the Jets go after a guy 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.800 like Mike Glennan, how crazy are they willing to go? 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:28.800 Are they willing to go all in the way that 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.040 Texans were with a flawed quarterback? And Brock as well? 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.040 Do you think it's gonna be crazy? A crazy market? Perhaps? 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:40.639 Like you brought up Astwiler last year? Is that the 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.320 natural compare that Glennon hitting the market now, a guy 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.760 who's got some starting experience. Um, but it's been backing 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.760 up Jameis Winston. Um. Do you think there'll be a 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.560 lot of people after him on once once this thing 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.320 starts next week? I do. I think I think Glennon 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.520 is better than Ostweiler from one. I don't know if 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.960 everybody who shares that opinion, but I think with quarterbacks, 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.240 if you just get two teams involved, the bidding can 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:08.760 get crazy because if you think about it from the 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.840 Jets perspective, they're gonna have dollars in capram whatever it 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.600 comes out to after they finish all their cuts. If 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.480 they have the money to spend and their choices get 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.480 Mike Glennan or somebody else, and they don't like anybody else. 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.679 Their intention should be in a lot of teams will 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.640 be to overspend to make sure you get that guy, 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.800 because there's no more important position. If two teams are 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.280 thinking I'll do anything to get him, well that's when 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.200 the prices get out of control. Now. One thing that 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.560 Bowls did say today, he was asked clearly by one 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.920 of the reporters, if Bryce Spudding, Christian Hackaber we'll have 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.960 a chance to start, and he said, yeah, yeah, they'll 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.760 be part of the mix. Yeah. Absolutely. I don't necessarily 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.840 think that they will emerge as starters. But again, just 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.720 like you don't want to tell the veterans we're rebuilding, 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.760 you don't want to tell those guys no, no, they're 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.800 not they're not starters. You want them to fight for 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.760 the job. And Bryce Petty showed some things last year. 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.440 I don't know if he showed enough or not, but 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.400 there was some promise there. We have on the outside 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.359 no idea what Christian Hackenburg is, but he was the 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.639 second round pick. There's something about him that they like, 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.520 so it's possible. You know. I do think if they 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.720 go out and they get a Mike Glennon or somebody 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.080 on the free agent market that will be your starter. 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.640 But if they can't, um or if in training camp, 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.080 Christian Hackenburg lights it up. I think Todd Bowles is 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.320 open to whoever the best guy is. That's who's gonna 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.679 lead the way. And whoever the best guy is. Uh. 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.080 The Jets of a new offensive coordinator and John Morton 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.719 and a new quarterbacks coach and uh, Jeremy Bates and UH. 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.040 Todd discussed both of those today as well. He did, 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.520 and he glowed about them. Not surprisingly he hired them. 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.760 He talked about Jeremy Bates, the quarterback coach had been 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.800 out of football for four years, and Todd Bowls downplayed 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.120 that because and he's right, there are reasons why people 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.480 might leave a job for a certain amount of time. 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.240 It doesn't mean he's not a good coach. He's got 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.879 experience with quarterbacks. He did very well with Jake Cutler 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.480 as as one of his quarterback projects. Um, so he's 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.280 confident that he can take whatever young quarterback the Jets 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.480 have and mold him. And UH. He talked about John Morton. 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.800 We've all sort of assumed that he's going to come 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.560 in and run a West Coast offense. But Todd Bowle's 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.000 message was, it's not a West Coast offense. He's gonna 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.880 run a good offense whatever that is. Throwing the ball 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:19.639 down exactly, He's gonna And he said John Morton, strength 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.040 is to look at the personnel and figure out what's 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.640 gonna work the best. Speaking of the personnel, the Jets 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.639 have been very busy this offseason and and we frankly 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.680 anticipated it, Bigs that you had to make some moves 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.960 to get underneath the cap. And the Jets released prominent 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:39.399 veterans Darrell Reeves, Nick Mangold, um Brno Jack Beany and 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:43.680 of course the second leading U score in this franchise's history. 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.919 And Nick folks so the year take on the release 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:51.480 of that quartet um necessary but difficult decisions. Uh, you know, 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.320 it's it's football's business. You're in a salary cap sport. 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.480 You can't afford to keep guys around as a luxury. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.960 Nick Mangold, maybe he can play, certainly would be great 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.240 in the locker room, that fans would love him. But 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.280 for the price, his age, the injury, it's too much. 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.680 It's become a young man and the less expensive, the 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.600 better young man's sport. Um so, they sort of had 0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:15.080 to move on. They were uh two years ago, ten 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.600 and six, they were a veteran team. They tried to 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.720 keep everybody together to make a run. It didn't work 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.960 out last year. The only thing they could really do 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.919 at that point then is start cutting some of these 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.159 big salaries. I suspect there'll be a few more of 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.320 and again they all hurt. But it's the right movie. 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.320 It's you know, you you have to be a young, 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.320 fiscally responsible team to compete in this league. When you 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.160 look at six, and I know it's early because we've 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:40.920 got a couple of months and the teams are going 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.600 through the medicals with three under thirty prospects right now, 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.719 and they're finding out more about the guys as they 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.840 put them in the interview room. The Jets are one 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.280 of thirty two teams, and we'll have sixty formal interviews 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:57.399 with the prospects they choose, um so, and then we 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.040 have prones as you know, and then you'll invite some 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.200 of your prospects to your complex. So this thing, this 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.240 scouting is just basically I don't want to say starting, 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:14.360 but we got a long way to go until April, 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.240 late April and the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft. But 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.920 for our storylines are concerned what jumps out to you 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.520 right now about the combine. You know, it's interesting you 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.520 phrase it that way because a year ago at this time, 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.080 everybody was saying there are no quarterbacks at the top 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.399 of this draft, and before long Jared Goff and Carson 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.639 Wentz go one too. So everything does change. But I 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.200 think the storylines, especially for the number six pick, the 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.080 storylines that are emerging. The first one is are there 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.160 any quarterbacks that are gonna be worthy of being in 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.080 the top ten? Um? Mitch Trobinski is kind of the 0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.440 odds on favorite to be the guy. Um, will he 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.400 go number one? Number five? Will the Jets consider them 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.920 a number six? We're sort of watching how that develops 0:28:55.960 --> 0:29:00.320 and if another quarterback DeShawn Kaiser, DeShawn Watson can uh 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.040 sort of emerge as a guy to join that elite 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.440 group we'll start to see this week a little bit. 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.360 The other thing from the Jets perspective that I think 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.480 is interesting, um is there seems to be a glut 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.520 of defensive backs near the top of the draft. Corners 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.360 and safeties, which as we saw last year, is something 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.720 the Jets really need, especially now that they've gotten rid 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.880 of Darrelle Revis, Calvin Pryor I think is going into 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.280 the last year of his contract. They have some free 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.840 agents this year end up coming next year they could 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.560 use to strengthen that secondary. They could get the top 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.000 cornerback or top safety in the draft at number six. 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.040 And you know exactly how that shakes out might depend on, well, 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.760 how many quarterbacks sneak into that top five. The more 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:42.480 that do, the more it pushes down to a top 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.200 player to the Jets. Yeah, we're joined by Ralph Acciano 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.440 here from US and y we're in. Indeed, the two 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:52.160 thousand seventeen NFL Combine is under way. Ralph. No, fans 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.200 probably ask you the same question they asked me, is 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.720 that are the Jets really gonna go to defense at 0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:01.640 the beginning of this draft. Well, they certainly, because everybody 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.720 you talked to on the ground here is saying that 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.680 this is loaded. The first round could be loaded with 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.120 defensive prospects, and when you look at the Jets, you 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:15.760 definitely want to take the best player available early in 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.560 the draft. But if it marries a need that's certainly 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.080 is going to break a tie, and that's what you're 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.160 looking for. You're trying to look for an impact player, 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:26.200 and an impact player at six. It could be on 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.320 the defensive side of the ball, right, you know, and 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.080 everybody wants the best available player, but you don't want 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.040 to get your third or fourth defensive end who's not 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.960 gonna play much. Now they might again, Leonard Williams could 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.600 follow them like he did a few years ago. I 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.520 can't see it this year. People are talking about Jonathan 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.080 Allen from ELBA. I can't see it. Yeah, I don't 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.320 see it either, um, but you know, so you do 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.400 try to matchin need if you can. You can't pass 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.880 on the talent if it's there. But if you're matching 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.760 up needs, this early defense sort of matches more for 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.240 the Jets with the top players because the other need 0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.120 on the offensive side of the ball, other than ter 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.680 back obviously would be offensive line. And at the moment, 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.560 almost every scout I've talked to seems to think that 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.120 there's not a top ten offensive lineman in this draft, 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.400 which is something else. Because you've been covering this for 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.760 a long time, I don't remember a draft that seems 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.400 this then at the top, because we're always talking about 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.360 tackles are right, and obviously that could change. I still 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.640 think somebody will take a tackle in the top ten, 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.760 but right now it would seem to be a stretch 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.600 at six. So you don't want to reach with the 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.840 sixth overall pick. If you have a need a corner 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.120 and safety or linebacker, or there is a premier pass 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.080 rushing defensive end, yeah you get that and you figure 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.840 out the rest later on. Yeah. The cornerback Marshawn Latimore 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.040 from Ohio State, a lot of people very high on him. 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.520 A couple of safeties at the top, Jamal Adams from 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.160 l s U. I know he's getting a lot of 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.080 love out there. So it's gonna be fascinating to see 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.720 how those dominoes fall, and then you get to the 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.960 if they decided to stay there. Mike mccagnell has always said, listen, 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.160 we call everybody in front of us, we call everybody 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.040 behind us. There's a ways to go until that happens. 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:13.040 What do you expect from the Jets once free agency commences? 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.840 That you talked about quarterback a little bit, but maybe 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.240 other positions that they might be looking to target because 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.680 mccagnell wants to go on this draft with as few 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:27.720 as holes as possible. Obviously, I mean quarterback obviously potentially 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.200 could be the big expenditure for them. You know, you 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.640 have no idea where that market is going to go, 0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:34.320 So I think that will be the first thing they do. 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.080 I could see them. I go back and forth and 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.440 whether they'll dip heavily into the cornerback market looking for 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.320 Darrell Reeves replacement in part because the draft is so 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.040 rich with them they might want to postpone that. The 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.960 place that I think they might be um more willing 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.520 to be active is along the offensive one. Um. You know, 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.440 Todd Bowles was noncommittal and a lot of things today, 0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.320 but he did not commit to Wesley John in its 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.760 center or bringing Now. He praised them and he said 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.560 they can win the job. They can do it, but 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:08.640 he kind of left the door open and maybe he 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.040 was coach speak, but he kind of left the door 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.200 open for we're gonna pursue our options. So, um, the 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:17.760 tackle market on free agency isn't thought to be good. Um. 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.520 You know, Ryan Claydy, just released by the Jets, is 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.640 one of the better tackles on the open market, they'll 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.760 they'll be a few younger, healthier guys, but once those 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.560 expensive ones are off the market, you're looking at um 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.760 older veterans who may be coming off injuries. So I 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.520 don't know that the Jets are necessarily gonna want to 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.600 go that route, but they will have a lot of 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.520 cap room to spend, so maybe some of the bigger 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.880 names might be in play for them. Um. Some of 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.000 the rest of it might depend on what they do 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:48.040 if they release Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker. Receiver is 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.360 not a ridiculous thought. They have good young ones, but 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.320 nobody really proven other than Quincy Ananua, who's still working 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.320 his way up to number one status. Um, I guess 0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:01.440 a tight end if they that's about that as well 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.280 today as a tight end position. Yeah, and that will 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.600 depend on what kind of offense John Morten wants to run. 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.440 But it does sound like they want to emphasize I 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.040 don't know how you can emphasize the tight and less 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:10.640 than they've done in recent years. They want to do 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.080 that more. Um. But yeah, I mean I think they'll 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:17.000 be fairly active, but the quarterback is gonna be the 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.560 first thing on the plane. That's that's they have to 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.160 settle that quickly, and then all the rest of the 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.239 dominoes of all in line. As we look at the 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.840 landscape here on press row, I know people are just 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.719 looking at the backdrop, but there's a lot of people 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.919 gathered here. I see the Bills over there, and that's 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.319 one team, uh has a huge decision to make its 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.200 quarterback position. They pick up Tyrod Tayler's option, that I'll 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.000 be there obviously, But if they don't, he becomes a 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.080 free agent there and he's a guy that the Jets 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.320 would have to look at, a different type of quarterback, 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.120 more mobility than a lot of guys on the market. 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.000 Not uh, well, I guess I shouldn't say not as accomplished. 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.400 He's not. In his time starting, he's been good, but 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.920 not great. But he matches up fine with most of 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.560 the guys who are on the market at the moment. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.000 So I would definitely think that he would be in play. 0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.920 I think he might be a little too expensive for 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.880 the Bills to pick up. But as with all of 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.960 these decisions, um, you know, if you if they don't 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.359 pick up the option on him, they have to answer 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.560 the question, then what do we do? Right? Not a 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.040 lot of people have a and Aaron Rodgers sitting on 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.000 their bench so they can let bred farv go. You know, 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.759 there's not there's usually not a second option on your roster, 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.759 so you better have a good plan when you let 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.200 one get out of your hands. Uh yeah, I don't know. 0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.960 From s n Y joining us right now, we're recapping 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.600 Todd Bowl's news conference today talking Jets. We were joined 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:35.360 earlier by Dane Bruegler, draft guru from CBS Sports. You 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.239 can check him out at DP Bruegler. He's got his 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.239 draft book coming out done, reports on more than four 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:46.480 hundred uh prospects, only three thirty here. Uh. Kevin Mawai 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:51.520 NFL Hall of Fame finalists is in the building in 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:56.120 the Convention Center. He's gonna join us momentarily. Speaking of Ralph, 0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.520 what do you think about Kevin now as he enters 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.000 two thousand seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, you think that 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.440 he's got a good chance of eventually getting into Canton 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.680 now that he's a finalist. I do. I think once 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:14.840 you get into that finalist realm, you're not a lock, 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.200 but pretty close to a lock. The Hall of Fame 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.600 voting is such a complicated process, and there are so few. 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.480 When you think about the number of the fifteen finalists 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.960 that they have, all of them are Hall of Fame worthy, 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.759 but only five of them can get in. Um, they 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.919 have to sometimes, well, let's get this guy in first. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.960 He's been waiting for a few years. They sort of 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.680 positioned themselves with the voters, so, UM, it wasn't his turn. 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.919 I don't know that next year will be his turn, 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.880 but I suspect that in the next few years he 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.800 will get in. I think there there's a lot of 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.680 respect for him. And how about the run and center 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:53.240 for the Jets after after MAUI that draft Nick Mangold 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.160 twenty nine overall two thousand six. Of course the brickshaw 0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.719 Ferguson was landed in that draft number four overall. But 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.800 this is an amazing running center for the Jets. It 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.320 really has. I don't know if there are other teams 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.239 that have ever done that for that many years and 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.000 just had two guys. And not only that, it's not 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:15.759 just two starters. Those two guys basically played almost every 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.560 game up until the middle of last year. There weren't 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.880 a lot of times where a substitute center was needed. 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:25.360 So two incredible players, a lot of luck in getting 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.960 them back to back, a lot of skill in identifying 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.440 those players as well, and uh, you know both of 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.640 them will be up in the Ring of Honor. Well, Ralph, 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.720 thank you so much for joining us. I really enjoyed 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.880 our talk and you can follow Ralph on Twitter and 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.880 also at s n Y. We're enjoying your coverage. You're 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.839 gonna be here until one, UM, and here on Saturday morning, 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.640 so you'll be you'll be here for the quarterback So 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:51.520 so Ralph will be talking quarterbacks on Friday. Absolutely, thank 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.839 my pleasure. Thank you. Alright, So that's Ralph Acciano from 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.480 U sports Net New York, and of course before we're 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:04.760 joined by Theme Brugler, Draft Guru from a CBS Sports 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:10.200 and Kevin y is coming aboard right now. Kevin has 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:15.759 made his way from Chicago. He's in Indianapolis. Good to 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:23.000 see a buddy. Yeah, Jasination man, Jess Hastian Gang Green. 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.839 What's up everybody? How do you feel about that? Doing great? Man? 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.719 It's awesome. Okay, So first off, congratulations as far as 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.880 getting as far as you did. Uh. Now, looking back 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:39.279 the Hall of Fame process, being a finalist, Um, how 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.520 would you explain it? How would you describe the past 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:47.640 couple of months? Um? Interesting, UM, nerve racking at times, 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.680 but UM grateful for the opportunity. Very few people get 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.320 to go to this process. It's a it's being in 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.000 the hall as a Holliday experience. And I'm not there yet, 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.279 but you know, Chris Martin would know, and there's other guys. 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:05.800 But UM, what I really enjoyed is undergoing through, understanding 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.680 the process, going through it, but spending time with you 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.880 and you know, you guys did a great job on 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.160 the video leading up to that deal and made me 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.719 cry and uh. But talking to the other reporters and 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.439 find it, you know, you know what kind of player 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.400 you were, and it really matters. It means a lot 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.360 when you find out what other people thought about you. 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.800 And to hear what my poems said about me and 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.760 other coaches and the respect that I earned throughout my career, 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.400 that was pretty neat. And then you find these obscure 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.440 facts that of your career, like I had a two 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.840 one games I played in I had ninety hunre yard rushers, 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.320 which is tops for any player in the history of 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.480 the NFL. Never knew that and that's the first time 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.760 I'm here. Yeah, so that was one of the stats 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:48.279 that they know the guy. Yeah, that's nine hundred yard 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:52.080 rushers at a two one games played two and thy started. 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.520 Um so nobody in the NFL has gotten close. It 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.360 was like, I think, you know, I don't know the 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.439 seventeen games gap between mine and the next guy, next 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.920 offensive lineman. So stuff like that. You're like, oh, that's 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.680 pretty cool, you know, you know, but it's been it 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.520 was neat going through the process, a little nerve back 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.600 in the last two hours when you either get a 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.400 knock or get a phone call. I got the phone call, unfortunately, 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.440 but um, I couldn't be happier. Man. I think that 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:20.520 Paul Kaharsky in in Tennessee, John Clayton, I saw him yesterday. Um, 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.120 I thank you the other day. Just you know, I've 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:27.000 said to Gary Myers and Bob Glover. Bob Glover apologized 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.160 to me, and I'm like, dude, I'm what are you 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.320 apologizing for? I made? I'm on the top ten. I 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:33.840 was one of the top ten that made and it 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.080 was pusts me in the top three fifty that's ever 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.640 played this game. And if as long as I had 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.319 that perspective on it, you know. But part of our 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.920 mission here at the Jets is to get you in 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:52.480 and organizationally, uh, we're gonna make sure that you get 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:57.239 your right Why I really appreciate that we are on that, 0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.719 I'm telling you right now, because you deserve to have 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.160 your bust and Canton and uh, I know, uh, they 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.480 should put you relatively close to Curtis whenever you find 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:11.200 your way there, because you guys maybe maybe a little 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.520 bit in front. But there's a part of me in 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:17.200 there already. And and I've said that before with Curtis 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.280 going in ten thousands of his thirteen or fourteen thousand 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.400 yards or mine, you know, aside, you know, because I 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.520 think I went on I R and oh five and 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.600 he went on I are very soon after, so he 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.200 didn't get a whole lot of yards after me. But um, 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.360 so there's a special part of us that are already 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:33.880 in there. Is the guys that blocked for him over 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.960 the course of our careers. Jason Fabini, uh, you know, 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:41.200 you know, Brandon Moore and Dave z I, all these guys. 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.120 There's so many guys that are part of that. And likewise, 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.800 if I get in whether I'm next to Curtis across 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:49.880 the hall from I don't care. I'm in, That's all 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.000 that matters. But but I go in, I would go 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.400 in knowing that all those same guys that helped Curtis 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.160 get in, the same guys that were part of me 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.879 getting in as well. keV, what was your combine next 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.840 varience like when you came out of nothing like this. 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.480 This is like a circus, But so the combine was here, 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.200 the exist, the Commission Center didn't exist. We're actually sitting 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.200 and I guess would be our c A domes where 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.040 we're at right now, and you know the union station 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.320 where the teams do all their interviews. That process is 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.920 still the same. The meat market of going through and 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.480 your underwear to weigh in and take your measurements is 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.640 still the same um going get in an m R 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:25.719 S and following the blue tape, of the yellow tape, 0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.799 of the green tape on the on the floor. That's 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.799 all the same. The differences the media and what they've 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.280 turned this into be this is the second largest NFL 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.960 experienced in in a given year, next to the Super Bowl. 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.640 From I understand, and we got radio row a combine 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.120 which is unheard of. It's crazy. And then for this 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:43.880 first time the fans will be able to watch the 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.120 bench press and the forty yard dash, and so they've 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:51.120 turned it into somewhat of a marketing whatever you wanna 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.880 call it. I'll tell you. You know, Tony Richardson was 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.520 here before. Yeah, so t rich And I don't did 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.480 he get invited the combine because he went in a 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.560 draft pick. He did not get invited like that. He's 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:03.960 a draft class. So that's what we were just talking 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.719 about it before. There's three thirty guys who get invited here. 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.960 There are a number of players who are gonna be 0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.839 playing in the National Football League next year absolutely, who 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.000 don't think are invited here. And that's the thing to 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.600 forty coming out of Auburn. Yeah ran a four four 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.960 played against him in college. Yeah, I know, and he 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.799 didn't get an invite and Auburn, you know, and back 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.520 then in the SEC, Alabama was coming off of a 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.840 i think the second straight national title or something like that. 0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.360 Auburn was a very good team. Unfortunately l s U 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.200 wasn't so good, but um, but it just goes to 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.759 show kids that if you really want it and you're 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.279 good enough, you're gonna get found. Just because you don't 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.440 get an invite to the combine, that doesn't mean you're 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:44.960 not gonna make it, have a chance to get in. 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.280 But but there's a little there's a little genetics involved 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.120 in it, and there's a little good luck involved in it, 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.200 and there's a whole lot of hard work involved in it. 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:57.960 What are some of the measurements and uh uh particulars 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.759 that you remember from your Indian experience. How about on 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:05.480 the bench not a ton, but you know at the time, 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.040 anything over twenty was good. And I at two d 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.319 seventy one pounds. My official way in was I think 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.280 to seventy one. Um, so I got twenty one reps. 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.879 I was happy with that. I ran a five one two, 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.040 which I just found out that that was faster than 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:24.600 Tom Brady by the way. So that's unbelievable, isn't. I 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.279 think it's good. I'm just saying myself, you know. But 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.920 here's the story about the five the forty. So at 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:31.759 the end of the forty they had like a little 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.800 string that you gotta run through the string, But I 0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.480 didn't know that, and so as I ran, so you 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.000 probably ran four eight. Then I ran and I pulled 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:42.120 up with three yards to go because the strength surprised me, 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.759 so I could have I probably put it in faster seven. 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:47.879 I gave everything my first one and now I don't 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.360 know about four seven, maybe a four nine or five flat, 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.600 but uh, it didn't matter. I still got drafted in 0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.759 second round. So they didn't do the L drill, which 0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:59.400 is you gotta do this L drill. They didn't do 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.520 that then, but they did the five five shuttle. I 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.600 think I ran at four seven four. I think that's 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:08.120 what it was. I'm not sure. Um twenty nine in vertical. 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.400 Who I was thrilled about the twenty nine vertical And 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.640 this is why because at college I only had like 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.279 a twenty seven. But at l s U we jumped 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.320 the vertical in the ramp going out to the stadium, 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.879 so you're actually on an incline on a spongey floor. 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:22.880 So I got the common I hit twenty nine. I 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.040 was pretty excited about that. The thing, the one thing 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.360 that Dusk I got about the combine was this the 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.480 guy kept calling my name may Wag and it made 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.600 me so mad. And finally by the time I got 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:36.880 to the vertical jump, Yeah, there was using the expletive 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:43.400 my name is, my name is bleeping way, and so 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.880 I don't know. And then I had I had great workouts, 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:49.160 like old line workout stuff. Um yeah, So I did 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.400 some of the drills with Wretch Ran about five and 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:56.360 a half forty five five really yeah. I was in 0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:01.799 rich eyes in his work. He cannot est We'll find 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.239 out this week though, won't we. Yeah. And then the 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.640 vertical was bad though. It was like, yeah, that's bad, 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:12.279 but the man can't jump, not not this one, not 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.600 this one, that is for sure. Um, what do you 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:17.920 what do you remember about the interview process talking to 0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.800 you know? You remember only there's only one interview that 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.520 stuck out in my mind. I remember interviewing with Seattle. 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.880 That's why I ended up being drafted with there's and 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.120 I don't remember all the teams, Pittsburgh, Kansas City Chiefs, 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.359 and the one the Chiefs stood out in my mind 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.040 more than anybody because I met one of the regional 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.000 scouts and developed relationship with him through the Senior Bowl 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.520 and so forth. And so I got drafted by Seattle. 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.520 But I got interviewed with the Chiefs and the guy 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.480 one I don't know who it was, but he asked 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.880 me the question, if the Chiefs don't draft you, what 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.120 are you gonna do? I mean is that I didn't 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:52.600 know if that was leading question, or is that like, 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:55.080 you're not good enough to get drafted by anybody else, 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.640 So if we don't draft you, what are you gonna do? 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.839 I was like, well, the Chiefs don't draft me, somebody 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.000 else is I don't worry about it. I mean that 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.600 that was the dumbest question I thought, because it was 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.400 kind of presumptuous to think that, so that that's the 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.759 only team is going to draft me. And um, As 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:13.600 it turns out, I found out years later that a 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:16.279 team wanted to put me in the first round, late 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:18.200 first round. It would have been twenty six, when I 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.160 was twenty something overall on this one, and I got 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.239 flunked on my physical with the combine and I was 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.160 the last guy standing in my draft class sixteen years later, 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:29.320 so I could have been a first round heer, but 0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.760 I got flunked by one of the teams that happens 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.960 to be a divisional arrival of the Jets, and it 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:42.200 rhymes with what Hills. Oh, so the Bills. I found 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.080 this out. I didn't intership with the bills. One of 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.640 the old time Scott said, I had you rated as 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.200 the first round er. We wanted to take you in 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.399 the first round, but had to take you off the board. 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.680 The doctor funked on your physical and what sixteen years later, 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:59.440 no suck us. That was a true story. That's what 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.920 they told me. Thanks so much for stopping by. Thanks everybody, 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.799 uh for tuning in because we've had a great show 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:10.239 here on Radio. Rodane Brugler talking draft and Rolfagia I 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:15.120 don't reviewed, Todd Bolts news conference and uh, a legendary 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:19.359 jet joins us here at Radio ro Kevin Way. Thanks 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:20.759 so much for your time, Thanks you for tuning in. 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.160 Thanks so much, man, Gang Green, Go Gangreen.