1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Jets Nation. Eric Allen here at the two 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen NFL Combine. We're at the Indianapolis Convention Center. 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm joined now alongside by Dane Brugler, who is getting 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: ready for the draft. You can file him at d 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: P Brugler on Twitter. He is a must follow this 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: time of year all the way up to the draft. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Guys written more than four hundred reports and there are 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: only three hundred and thirty prospects here. Uh, Dane, this 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: is your time of year, isn't it. This is the 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: best time of the year. You know. I do this 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: three hundred sixty five days out of the year, So 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: now it's fun when everyone else is, you know, coming 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: around in my wheelhouse to talk about these prospects. Uh. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned three guys here, only two fifty or 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: so will be drafted, and plenty of the guys that 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: will be drafted won't be here. So non combined invites 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: so a lot on the line this week for the 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: players here. That us talking to a former Jet and 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: a former Dallas Cowboy and former Kansas City chief fullback 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Tony Richester today and he came out of Auburn about 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: two forty pounds ran a four four at that time 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: and was undrafted. So in addition to everybody's gonna be drafted, 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys here are not here who are 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: actually gonna play on NFL rosters next year. Absolutely, there's 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: an average of about thirty five to thirty seven thirty 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: eight guys who will be drafted who are non combined invites, 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: so about fiftent of the field who were actually drafted. Uh. 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: And then here there's three hundred thirty players, over a 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: hundred players who were here this week will not get drafted. 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: So just because you have a combined invite does not 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna get drafted. And just because you didn't 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: receive one and you're not here this week, while yes, 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: it's a missed opportunity, if you impress enough during the 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: All Star circuit and during the pro days and the workouts, 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you still have a great chance to get drafted. Uh. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Speaking on drafted guys, UH, what kind of grade did 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: they have on Temple speedster Robbie Anderson Last year? The 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: rookie had forty two receptions for the Jets. He impressed 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: during the Shrine game. Uh, that was his chance to shine, 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: and he did a player who had some issues in 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: his background. You know it was he a corner, was 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: he a receiver? You know where did he fit best? 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: But I'd tell you what he did the Shrine game 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: I think really helped him get drafted. Now today really 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: starting to kick it up a notch. Um heights, weights, uh, 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: measurements and uh. One thing you tweeted about today was 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: about a quarterbacks heighte Uh. People have been talking about 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Mitch Drobiski, a guy who started North Carolina only thirteen 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: games in his career, but he's obviously received um a 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: lot of notice of late. A lot of people are 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: saying that this guy could be a top ten pick. 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: We'll have to see where he falls. You said, Uh, 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: he measured in at six two For people at home, 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: Let's say, what's the difference between six one and a 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: half and six two? Can you tell us? Well, you know, 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: for certain positions with certain teams, they're just there's thresholds. 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, you want to see a player come in 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: at least six to hand size. You wanna some teams 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: look at okay, at least nine inches, some a little 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: more want at least nine and a half inches. So 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: It depends on the team, depends on the evaluator. And 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: if you're going to possibly invest a top ten pick, 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: a first round pick in a Mitch Drobiski, you want 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: him to at least hit that six two threshold, which 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: you did. Came in at six o two one, which 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: is six two and one eighth of an inch um, 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: So a good day for him. Also a good day 68 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson came in at six two and a half, 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: but the height wasn't the issue. It was the weight 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: and he came in a two one pounds which was 71 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: a great wait for him. Good build. You know, we 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: saw him against Alabama what he did this past year. 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Couldn't he hold up physically for a sixteen game schedule 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: playing like he did against Alabama taking all those hits, 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: that's the question. But scouts were worry he'd come in 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: about two pounds. That wasn't the case, a thicker bill 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: two one pounds. So a good day for these quarterbacks 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: so far. So for all those draft experts at home, 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: you gotta get this guy's book at DP Brugler. You 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter. It's gonna be wrapping it 81 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: up in the next couple of weeks. He said, you're 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: working day and night on that. Proudly did that end up? 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: March is gonna come out. It's gonna get you ready 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: for the draft. But we're talking about quarterbacks. You mentioned 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Rabinsky and Deshaun Watson. Oh where uh do you have 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: these guys at the top of the draft at this 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: point right now? What what are you seeing? And how 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: many eventually you think you're gonna fall on that first round? 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: That's the big question. I think this reminds me a 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of two thousand and fourteen class where we had 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: Blake Boardles, we had Johnny Manziel, we had David Carr 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: or JOm me Derek Carr, and then we had uh 93 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, you know, but we weren't sure what order 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: they come off the board. We weren't sure how many 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: would go top ten, how many go first round. And 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, it turns out the fourth of that group 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: who didn't go in the first round car has been 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: the best so far. So you know, I think it 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: and it will be similar this year where we don't 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: know the order right now. I don't think we're gonna 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: know a day before the draft, which will make it 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: more interesting. We're not gonna have a consensus quarterback this year. 103 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Some teams will prefer Mr. Robiskie. I think some will 104 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: prefer the upside of a Deshaun Kaiser from Notre Dame. 105 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Someone prefer the intangibles, the winning attitude that Deshaun Watson brings. 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: And then you have Pat Mahomes, who is just now. 107 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: He is well, he's tough because physically has everything you want. Size, 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: he's an athlete. He can uh, you know, throw the ball, 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: you can make all of the NFL throws. But coming 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: from that air raid offense, how where is he mentally 111 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: in his development? How long before he's ready to get 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: on the field. That plays a big part in where 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: he gets drafted. So a lot of questions with his 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: quarterback group. And I don't think we're gonna figure out 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: the order today just because there's so much different opinions 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: on these guys from team to team, evaluator to evaluator. 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: I think at least one or two ago in the 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: top ten, top fifteen, and then we'll have to see 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: how how it plays out after that. How about a 120 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: quick breakdown of uh, these guys at the top. Let's 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: let's start with true whisky. Uh, thirteen game starter, right, 122 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: U was a backup um, And I'll just give a 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: little rundown on what I know is that very accurate 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in North Carolina. But again, he's gonna be making 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: a big system jump. What's your take? Yeah, I know 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: that's a good background for him. Uh. And that's really 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: the biggest issue is the sample size. Thirteen game starter. Ideally, 128 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: for drafting a quarterback that high, you want more of 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: a sample size than just a one year But you 130 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: watch him on film and all thirteen games you see him. 131 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: He has the size, he has, the athleticism, really mobile quarterback, 132 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: the arm strength, the armed talent, very accurate. Like you said, 133 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: the ball placement is what you want. I think the 134 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: biggest thing with him is he's not elite in any 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: one of those areas. He doesn't have that distinguishing trait, 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: but he's pretty good across the board and so not 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: have that fatal flaw is kind of his calling card, 138 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: and that that's you can win with guys like that. 139 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to have a guy who's 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: elite in one area. You know, he just can't make 141 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: those mistakes. And I think that's what something you have 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: with Mr Robiskie. Now, if you want more of an 143 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: upside guy that I think Kaiser is who's really going 144 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: to appeal to these teams because I think when you 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: project him two to three years from now, you get 146 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: excited about where he can be. The physical traits are there, 147 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: the mental capacity is there. But he's been inconsistent this year. 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: And how do you weigh Okay last year as a 149 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: freshman when he had a top ten left tackle Ronnie Stanley, Uh, 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: he had c J Process at running back, little fuller receiver, 151 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: first round about wide receiver. He lost four of his 152 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: five top receivers from that year. So this year goes 153 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: into the year and it was just downhill from the start. 154 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: You know, Texas game played well, Michigan State played well, 155 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: and then just downhill and that really was indicative of 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: Notre Dame season as a whole. But how do you 157 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: weigh that? Um, you know, with just the supporting cast, 158 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the coaching was an issue. Did you know Brian Kelly 159 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: really want Deshaun Kaiser out there? Just there's a lot 160 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: of question sans with Kaiser, but there's a lot to 161 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: like as well. So what about the system does that 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: help him? Uh, comparably to the other two guys that 163 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: are mentioned in that mix early on, Watson and trow 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Bisky to an extent, mostly shotgun, but a lot of 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: downfield routes. Uh. You see him make left to right progressions, 166 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: whole field reads, and that's something you want to see, 167 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: you know. And that's something that Pat Mahomes. That's a 168 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: stigma he has to overcome, coming from that air raid 169 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: offense where you just look at the mechanics and they're 170 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: all over the place. He has a better back pedal 171 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: than some corners in this draft, which is not a 172 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: good thing. You know. You don't want to see that. 173 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: You want to see him be more tight with his 174 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: mechanics and his fundamentals. Um, you know, can you learn that, 175 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: can you get better? Sure, but you just haven't seen 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: it in a game setting. And you know, we talk 177 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: about changing up a guy's routine and it's muscle memory. 178 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: So with Mahomes you might have to kind of live 179 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: and die with. You know who he is, and he 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Johnny Manzeld. He he's bigger, 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: he has a better arm, and there's no field questions. 182 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: But in terms of on the field you have a 183 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: guy he likes to improvise, who will throw a prayer 184 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: up sometimes and hope that his guy can come down 185 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: with it. But I tell you, he's a fun tape 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: to watch and you get kind of you know, maybe 187 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: I can believe in this guy, like maybe a team 188 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: grabs him in the first round. And see, we've seen 189 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: stranger things. UM. Cornerbacks, the Jets released Darrell Revis. They 190 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: took Justin Burr's last year fourth round pick out of 191 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and See State. I thought he did some nice things 192 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: at the end of his first season of action. But 193 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: this is supposed to be another defensive draft at the top, UM, 194 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: what do you make of the elite corners? And I 195 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: guess it all starts with Marshawn Latimore and this will 196 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: be a big week for him. Um. For the medicals. 197 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't play his first two years in 198 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: Oh how A State because of you know what they 199 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: called chronic hamstring issues, and so what's going on with 200 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: that any long term worries concerns, UM, So the medicals 201 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: will be first and foremost for him. And then once 202 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: he's on the field, I expected to perform really well. 203 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: When you watch him on tape, you just don't see separation. Uh. 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: He has that quick twitch that you want, the speed. Uh, 205 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: he can play press, he can play off with Lattimore. 206 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, you just you never saw receivers able 207 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: to separate, and then when they did, he has that 208 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: that recovery speed where he can make that up that 209 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: closing burst and make a play on the ball. So 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I think Lattimore uh is clearly the top corner this year, 211 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: and I think every one in the top ten will 212 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: be considering him now. Dame Brugler joins us from India 213 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen NFL combine underway. We're gonna be joined 214 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: by Jets legend Kevin in a few moments. Uh. Uh. Dan, 215 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: We're talking to corners who's maybe not at Lattimore's levelment 216 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: but maybe a step or two below there. And you believe, 217 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: in your mind is first round talent. I think there's 218 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: a few. Marlin Humphrey from Alabama, UH really interesting because 219 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: he has, you know, physically has everything you want, uh, 220 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: the length, the size of speed. Uh is the son 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: of Bobby Humphrey, first round running back back in the 222 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: day for another Alabama guy. Uh. So you know with Humphrey. 223 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: You worry about downfield, getting his head turned around finding 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: the football. But a lot of coaches will think they 225 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: can coach that. You know, but he has what you 226 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: can't teach, has the physical traits. I think Marlon Humphrey 227 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: is gonna come off the board early. Sydney Jones I 228 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: like quite a bit at the corner from Washington. I'm 229 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see what he weighs in at on tape. 230 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: He's rail thin and so it's not an issue. But 231 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: is he a hundred eighty pounds or is he closer 232 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: to two h pounds? Hopefully can play outside, And one 233 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: thing I like about him is he can play different schemes. 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: You wanted the press, you want him to play a 235 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: little zone, playoff, he can. You can do different things. Um, 236 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: he's a former receiver in high school and you see 237 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: that those ball skills. When the balls in the year, 238 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: he goes and gets it. So I think Sidney Jones 239 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: is right there in that mix. And then one of 240 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: the top seniors this year. He's not gonna come in 241 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: well in terms of the measurements. George Lewis from Michigan, 242 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: But I tell you this guy can play. Uh guy 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't him down in a mobile. Yeah, the senior 244 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: boy in a good week. You have to get over 245 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: the size. And maybe he's only a nickel for you. 246 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can play any outside, but 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: if he's only a nickel, you can work with that. Um. 248 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: But he's fast, he knows how to cover, he's tough, 249 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: outstanding ball skills. You just have to get over the 250 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: lack of size. Typically, and you know this so well. 251 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: In the draft, there's usually a couple of lineman offensive 252 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: lineman that you're gonna see go early in that top 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: five range, top ten range. Right now, it doesn't seem 254 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: that way, does it. It's it's not a great year 255 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: for offensive lineman, and I should say offensive tackle and 256 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: on center guard. I think there's some there's some decent 257 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: depth there um, starting with Forest lamp out of Western Kentucky, 258 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: who I think is a first round pick. But then 259 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: at tackle, a lot of question marks and if you 260 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: don't get your guy early, you're gonna be out of 261 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: luck later on. So Ryan ram Check, the tackle from Wisconsin, 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I think he's a top guy. Well to see how 263 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: his hip, what's going on there? That has to clear 264 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: And then you have a few guys with question marks. 265 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson from Alabama, Garrett Bowls from Utah Bowls. He's 266 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: gonna be a twenty five year old rookie and he 267 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: needs some work. He's a fantastic athlete, but in terms 268 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: of strength, in his power, his technique, he needs some work. 269 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: They're just a fascinating backstory with him. Was off from 270 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: took off a few years from football, so right well, 271 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: and even after high school we got into some trouble, 272 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of went away from football, and then he went 273 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: to on that mission that kind of invigorated his his 274 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: love for football again. And so a lot of a 275 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: lot of things going on with Bowls. I think that 276 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: athleticism still gets him in the first round, and the 277 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: fact that, like I said, if you don't get that 278 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: tackle early, you're gonna be out of luck. So these guys, 279 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: these tackles are gonna be pushed up a little bit. Uh. 280 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: Speaking of Bowls, we're gonna be talking about Todd Bowls, 281 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: who addressed the media here in Indianapolis earlier today with 282 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: s N Wise Ralph Faciano here momentarily, Dane, what about 283 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the running backs? Uh? Leonard flour Neett is up there 284 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: and we saw him an Laite player Louisiana State, and 285 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: then Delvin Cook. Um. Most people when you look at 286 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Mick drafts, and I know it's not all about my 287 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: drafts at this point, but they have Leonard a little 288 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: bit ahead at Delvin Cook, who, in your mind in 289 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: five years going to be the better player Dalman Cook 290 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: is to meet the top running back in this class. Uh, 291 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: and I like four net he's a freak. You know, 292 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: there's not a running back in today's NFL that you 293 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: can really truly compare him to. Uh. We just don't 294 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: have anyone like that. But Dalvin Cook, I think everything's there, uh, 295 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: in terms of his physically, his explosion, his ability to 296 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: string together moves make guys miss, and then mentally his vision, 297 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: his run, tempo, his patience. He's the game teachers again. Really, 298 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: he can take the ball to the house anytime he has. 299 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely he's that type of back. The biggest thing with 300 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: him is, since I believe his junior year in high school, 301 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: he has had three shoulder surgeries, came in at two 302 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: ten pounds. He's not the biggest guy. Tell you what 303 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: if you told me that over the next five to 304 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: seven years, he's gonna average fourteen starts a year. I'd 305 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: say is the best running back to come out the 306 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: last few years. But I just worried that that's not 307 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: going to be the case with him. Uh So, hopefully 308 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: he's able to hold up physically, but I think that 309 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: might be the worry with teams and why he might 310 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: not be the first running back draft and why he 311 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: might not go top fifteen like his talent says he 312 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: should these at the end of the day, somebody uh 313 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: takes a staff at him, maybe in the top ten. 314 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: I think it. I think it depends on what we 315 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: hear from the medicals. I think that's what's going on 316 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: to shoulders, what's going on, you know, with some of 317 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: the medical information, that will be the key if it comes. 318 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, if he gets two thumbs up from the 319 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: trainer and from the medical staffs, then absolutely he's one 320 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: of the top ten players in this draft just based 321 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: on talent, and so I think he we're going to 322 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: see him somewhere in top fifteen if the medicals come back. Okay, 323 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey ultra productive at a Stanford. Do you see him 324 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: making his way in the first round? How does he 325 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: project on the next level? He should. There's no reason 326 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: not to keep out of the first round. If you're not. 327 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: If you don't know how to use Christian McCaffrey, then uh, 328 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you need to change the way you call plays. He's 329 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: he's a first round talent. Is he a player that 330 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you want carrying the ball five times a game? No, 331 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: but you want him touching the ball twenty five times 332 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: a game. He's capable of sixteen eighteen carries, six seven 333 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: eight targets a game. Uh, my comparisons Brian Westbrook. You know, 334 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: use him in the backfield, but he can also go 335 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: out in the slot, put him out side. This is 336 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: a player who he'll he's a better route runner than 337 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: some of the receivers that will probably drafted ahead of him. 338 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that diverse with what he can do 339 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: on offense as well as he's a returner. So with 340 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, he's one of those smartest runners I've seen. 341 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: He understands, you know, how to read his blocks with 342 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the defenders trying to do make guys miss, and he 343 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: knows when the mission is over, so he gets down 344 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and he doesn't take a lot of hard hits. I 345 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: think Christian McCaffrey is absolutely a first round pick and 346 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if he doesn't go one day one. 347 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: What do you think about Mike mccagnen as a talent evaluator. 348 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: He's a guy that you're very familiar with the Texas 349 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: roots and UM over the first two drafts, I think 350 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: he's done a very nice job. Obviously, we were just 351 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: talking about it before we came out live here. He 352 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: took Leonard Williams number six overall with this first overall pick, 353 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: stuck to his guns, the best player available, philosophy, Guy 354 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: Lands and the Pro Bowl. Uh, Darren Lee. I know 355 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: people said he didn't have a stellar season. I thought 356 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: he started coming on a lot towards the end. He's 357 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna be that three down linebacker that the Jets need, 358 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think he could be a fixture for this 359 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: team for years to come as well. And then we 360 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: think about last year's draft, Um, you go to the 361 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: third round, Jordan Jenkins, he became a starter for you, 362 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: a stout edge center. I mean he might never be 363 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the ten sac a year guy, but he can get 364 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and he also can set that edge 365 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: and b a syl player for you. But in the 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: fourth round, Justin Burrs, maybe he's starting for you this 367 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: year in the fifth round. I thought he did a 368 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: nice job by getting moving back into the draft to 369 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: get Brandon Ships, right, he gave up a fourth round pick. 370 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: People are like, oh, you gave up a fourth round 371 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: pick and next year's draft. But he was figuring he'd 372 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: get a compensatory selection this year, which he in fact has. 373 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: So just overall, how do you think he's done his 374 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: first two years? Um as the GM of the Jets. Uh, 375 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: as far as drafting his concerned, he's done a good job. 376 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: I've known Mike for a while since he was in Houston, UH, 377 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: and would have always appreciated with him is he's he's 378 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: a scout at heart, so he knows how to evaluate. 379 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: He's at all the All Star Games. Uh. You know, 380 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: there's not an event too small. If there's a possible 381 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: NFL caliber player there, he's there. He's evaluating. Uh, he 382 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: is a scout at heart, and so I always enjoy 383 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: when I have a chance to catch up with with Mike. 384 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: And I've I've really appreciated his his grind for a 385 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: long time. UM, and so I think so far, you know, 386 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: in two drafts, he's he's done a solid job. I think, 387 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, George Jenkins really outplayed his draft slot and 388 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I think he'll continue to do that. Like you said, 389 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: he might not be an elite player who uh you know, 390 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: as an all pro, but I think he'll outplay his 391 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: draft slot and be a solid contributor. Darren Lee, I 392 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: think people need to remember as a richer sophomore when 393 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: he came out of out house state, this is a 394 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: guy who could have used another year in school. Uh. 395 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: And I even said that on Twitter, and he called 396 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: me darrenly called me out on Twitter for saying that. 397 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: But you know, I think he will get better in 398 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: year two and year three. Um So I give Mike 399 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for what he's done. Eager to 400 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: see what he does now with another top ten pick, 401 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: you know, back in the top ten, plenty of options, uh, 402 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, could he possibly go quarterback? Could he you know, 403 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: maybe help that defensive secondary, But there will be several 404 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: options he could go. So eager to see what he 405 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: does there. Well, we're eager to see your book. It's 406 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: at DP Burglar. You guys can jump on there, follow 407 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: him on Twitter. You're gonna get all your draft information, Dane, 408 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: so great catching up. Make sure you get some rest 409 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: this week, all right, thanks, Dane brewser uh joins us 410 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis at the Convention Center. Momentarily we're gonna 411 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: be joined by Ralph Acciano, who was at Todd Bowls 412 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: news gathering today in Indianapolis. The Jets head coach um 413 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: addressed the media today. Uh here in Indie. Ralph was 414 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: there and we're bringing him on set right now and 415 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: if ill experience underway here Indianapolis. Ralph, thanks for joining 416 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: us and my pleasure. How are you? I'm great? Uh. 417 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: Your takeaways uh from today's morning briefing an early star 418 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: for everybody. It was a little early for me, but uh, 419 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, it was somewhat interesting and typical coach fashion. 420 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls did not reveal a lot of things, but 421 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: he shed a little more light on the Darrell Rievaus release, 422 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: which he insisted was had nothing to do with his arrest, 423 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: had more to do with the financials which with his play. Um. 424 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: They did consider moving him to safety, but when you 425 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: factor in the fifteen point three million dollar capit, it 426 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't worth keeping around just to find out whether 427 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: he could play that position. Um, So that was one 428 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: of the big topics, and he kind of hinted a 429 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: little bit at some of the things that they're thinking 430 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: of in the off season, for example, the quarterbacks. He 431 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: did say they're going to look at the veteran quarterback market, 432 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: and that honestly, whatever decisions or questions the Jets have 433 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: heading into the off season, they all pale in comparison 434 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: to who is that quarterback And it seems clear that 435 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: they've got their eyes set on somebody and maybe a 436 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: few guys on the open market before we get to 437 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Ralph, I don't want to paraphrase here. I'm 438 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: actually gonna take the quote from Todd Bowls today. This 439 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: stood out to me. He said, as a coach, you 440 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: get energized every year because you're always trying to win 441 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. There's no rebuilding. You're always trying to win. 442 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Whether you have younger or older players, you're always trying 443 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: to win and get better. That's how I coach and 444 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: how I'm going to be every day, whether it's street 445 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: ball or professional ball, I'm trying to win. So you 446 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: know part of that is, well, what else is a 447 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: coach to say? Supposed to say. But a lot of 448 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: that is Todd Bowles. I mean, the reality is, from 449 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: all appearances, the Jets are rebuilding. But Todd Bowles is 450 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: not going into this season thinking, Okay, in a couple 451 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: of years, I'll have a winner. He's still looking for 452 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the best players. And he's right when he says that 453 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: those could be young players at twenty two year old 454 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: come out of college, could be better than a twenty 455 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: eight year old veteran at the end of his career 456 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: um and so he's looking for the best guys. He 457 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: thinks he can put together a roster once he sees 458 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: free agency with a lot of cap room to spend there, 459 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: once he sees the draft they have I picks, maybe 460 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: they can put together a winner. He's not going to 461 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: diminish the expectations, not for the fans of the organization, 462 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: but especially for the players. I don't think he wants 463 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: to go into the locker room it's any veteran players 464 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: and say relaxed guys will rebuilding. They're gonna go for it. 465 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Whether that's realistic or not, we'll find out. But stranger 466 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: things have happened. So what do you make of the 467 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: quarterback market? After we leave Indy Ralph, you know you're 468 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: gonna be covering it every day. Free agncy starting and 469 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: just a few days because Indianapolis is late this year, 470 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: it's already March second, and before you know it, free 471 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: agency starts next week. Yeah, it's it's not a great 472 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: quarterback market and it never is. I mean, the reality is, 473 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: if you are an elite quarterback, you're never gonna hit 474 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: free agency. You know, the Eli Mannings and Matt Ryan's 475 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: and Drew Brees, they get those contracts un there's a 476 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: reason why teams keep them. So you're looking at second 477 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: tier guys with some promise. Mike Glennon and the Buccaneers 478 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: jumps off the page. Um, you're looking at a guy 479 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: who has is a little bit of damaged goods and 480 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Jake cut Or, who you know is one of the 481 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: more accomplished guys out there, but all of the bill 482 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: is still under contract with right not assuming he becomes 483 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: a free agent. Let's say with Colin Kaepernick, who I 484 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: guess the forty Niners are gonna allow to become a 485 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: free agent. There are guys with question marks. The problem 486 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: is while they may not be any of them may 487 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: may not be ideal candidates, they will be expensive because 488 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: teams get desperate when they don't have a quarterback. So 489 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: the question becomes, if the Jets go after a guy 490 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: like Mike Glennan, how crazy are they willing to go? 491 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Are they willing to go all in the way that 492 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Texans were with a flawed quarterback? And Brock as well? 493 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: Do you think it's gonna be crazy? A crazy market? Perhaps? 494 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Like you brought up Astwiler last year? Is that the 495 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: natural compare that Glennon hitting the market now, a guy 496 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: who's got some starting experience. Um, but it's been backing 497 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: up Jameis Winston. Um. Do you think there'll be a 498 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: lot of people after him on once once this thing 499 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: starts next week? I do. I think I think Glennon 500 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: is better than Ostweiler from one. I don't know if 501 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: everybody who shares that opinion, but I think with quarterbacks, 502 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: if you just get two teams involved, the bidding can 503 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: get crazy because if you think about it from the 504 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Jets perspective, they're gonna have dollars in capram whatever it 505 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: comes out to after they finish all their cuts. If 506 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: they have the money to spend and their choices get 507 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Mike Glennan or somebody else, and they don't like anybody else. 508 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: Their intention should be in a lot of teams will 509 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: be to overspend to make sure you get that guy, 510 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: because there's no more important position. If two teams are 511 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: thinking I'll do anything to get him, well that's when 512 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: the prices get out of control. Now. One thing that 513 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Bowls did say today, he was asked clearly by one 514 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: of the reporters, if Bryce Spudding, Christian Hackaber we'll have 515 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: a chance to start, and he said, yeah, yeah, they'll 516 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: be part of the mix. Yeah. Absolutely. I don't necessarily 517 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: think that they will emerge as starters. But again, just 518 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: like you don't want to tell the veterans we're rebuilding, 519 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to tell those guys no, no, they're 520 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: not they're not starters. You want them to fight for 521 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: the job. And Bryce Petty showed some things last year. 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he showed enough or not, but 523 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: there was some promise there. We have on the outside 524 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: no idea what Christian Hackenburg is, but he was the 525 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: second round pick. There's something about him that they like, 526 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: so it's possible. You know. I do think if they 527 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: go out and they get a Mike Glennon or somebody 528 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: on the free agent market that will be your starter. 529 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: But if they can't, um or if in training camp, 530 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: Christian Hackenburg lights it up. I think Todd Bowles is 531 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: open to whoever the best guy is. That's who's gonna 532 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: lead the way. And whoever the best guy is. Uh. 533 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: The Jets of a new offensive coordinator and John Morton 534 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: and a new quarterbacks coach and uh, Jeremy Bates and UH. 535 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: Todd discussed both of those today as well. He did, 536 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: and he glowed about them. Not surprisingly he hired them. 537 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: He talked about Jeremy Bates, the quarterback coach had been 538 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: out of football for four years, and Todd Bowls downplayed 539 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: that because and he's right, there are reasons why people 540 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: might leave a job for a certain amount of time. 541 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he's not a good coach. He's got 542 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: experience with quarterbacks. He did very well with Jake Cutler 543 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: as as one of his quarterback projects. Um, so he's 544 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: confident that he can take whatever young quarterback the Jets 545 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: have and mold him. And UH. He talked about John Morton. 546 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: We've all sort of assumed that he's going to come 547 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: in and run a West Coast offense. But Todd Bowle's 548 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: message was, it's not a West Coast offense. He's gonna 549 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: run a good offense whatever that is. Throwing the ball 550 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: down exactly, He's gonna And he said John Morton, strength 551 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: is to look at the personnel and figure out what's 552 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna work the best. Speaking of the personnel, the Jets 553 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: have been very busy this offseason and and we frankly 554 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: anticipated it, Bigs that you had to make some moves 555 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: to get underneath the cap. And the Jets released prominent 556 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: veterans Darrell Reeves, Nick Mangold, um Brno Jack Beany and 557 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: of course the second leading U score in this franchise's history. 558 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: And Nick folks so the year take on the release 559 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: of that quartet um necessary but difficult decisions. Uh, you know, 560 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: it's it's football's business. You're in a salary cap sport. 561 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: You can't afford to keep guys around as a luxury. 562 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Nick Mangold, maybe he can play, certainly would be great 563 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room, that fans would love him. But 564 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: for the price, his age, the injury, it's too much. 565 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: It's become a young man and the less expensive, the 566 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: better young man's sport. Um so, they sort of had 567 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: to move on. They were uh two years ago, ten 568 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: and six, they were a veteran team. They tried to 569 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: keep everybody together to make a run. It didn't work 570 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: out last year. The only thing they could really do 571 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: at that point then is start cutting some of these 572 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: big salaries. I suspect there'll be a few more of 573 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: and again they all hurt. But it's the right movie. 574 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: It's you know, you you have to be a young, 575 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: fiscally responsible team to compete in this league. When you 576 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: look at six, and I know it's early because we've 577 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: got a couple of months and the teams are going 578 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: through the medicals with three under thirty prospects right now, 579 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: and they're finding out more about the guys as they 580 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: put them in the interview room. The Jets are one 581 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: of thirty two teams, and we'll have sixty formal interviews 582 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: with the prospects they choose, um so, and then we 583 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: have prones as you know, and then you'll invite some 584 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: of your prospects to your complex. So this thing, this 585 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: scouting is just basically I don't want to say starting, 586 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: but we got a long way to go until April, 587 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: late April and the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft. But 588 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: for our storylines are concerned what jumps out to you 589 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: right now about the combine. You know, it's interesting you 590 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: phrase it that way because a year ago at this time, 591 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: everybody was saying there are no quarterbacks at the top 592 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: of this draft, and before long Jared Goff and Carson 593 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Wentz go one too. So everything does change. But I 594 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: think the storylines, especially for the number six pick, the 595 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: storylines that are emerging. The first one is are there 596 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: any quarterbacks that are gonna be worthy of being in 597 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: the top ten? Um? Mitch Trobinski is kind of the 598 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: odds on favorite to be the guy. Um, will he 599 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: go number one? Number five? Will the Jets consider them 600 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: a number six? We're sort of watching how that develops 601 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and if another quarterback DeShawn Kaiser, DeShawn Watson can uh 602 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: sort of emerge as a guy to join that elite 603 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: group we'll start to see this week a little bit. 604 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: The other thing from the Jets perspective that I think 605 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: is interesting, um is there seems to be a glut 606 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: of defensive backs near the top of the draft. Corners 607 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: and safeties, which as we saw last year, is something 608 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: the Jets really need, especially now that they've gotten rid 609 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: of Darrelle Revis, Calvin Pryor I think is going into 610 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. They have some free 611 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: agents this year end up coming next year they could 612 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: use to strengthen that secondary. They could get the top 613 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: cornerback or top safety in the draft at number six. 614 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: And you know exactly how that shakes out might depend on, well, 615 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks sneak into that top five. The more 616 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: that do, the more it pushes down to a top 617 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: player to the Jets. Yeah, we're joined by Ralph Acciano 618 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: here from US and y we're in. Indeed, the two 619 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen NFL Combine is under way. Ralph. No, fans 620 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: probably ask you the same question they asked me, is 621 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: that are the Jets really gonna go to defense at 622 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of this draft. Well, they certainly, because everybody 623 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: you talked to on the ground here is saying that 624 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: this is loaded. The first round could be loaded with 625 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: defensive prospects, and when you look at the Jets, you 626 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: definitely want to take the best player available early in 627 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: the draft. But if it marries a need that's certainly 628 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: is going to break a tie, and that's what you're 629 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: looking for. You're trying to look for an impact player, 630 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: and an impact player at six. It could be on 631 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, right, you know, and 632 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: everybody wants the best available player, but you don't want 633 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: to get your third or fourth defensive end who's not 634 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna play much. Now they might again, Leonard Williams could 635 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: follow them like he did a few years ago. I 636 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: can't see it this year. People are talking about Jonathan 637 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: Allen from ELBA. I can't see it. Yeah, I don't 638 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: see it either, um, but you know, so you do 639 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: try to matchin need if you can. You can't pass 640 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: on the talent if it's there. But if you're matching 641 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: up needs, this early defense sort of matches more for 642 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: the Jets with the top players because the other need 643 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, other than ter 644 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: back obviously would be offensive line. And at the moment, 645 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: almost every scout I've talked to seems to think that 646 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: there's not a top ten offensive lineman in this draft, 647 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: which is something else. Because you've been covering this for 648 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: a long time, I don't remember a draft that seems 649 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: this then at the top, because we're always talking about 650 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: tackles are right, and obviously that could change. I still 651 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: think somebody will take a tackle in the top ten, 652 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: but right now it would seem to be a stretch 653 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: at six. So you don't want to reach with the 654 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: sixth overall pick. If you have a need a corner 655 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: and safety or linebacker, or there is a premier pass 656 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: rushing defensive end, yeah you get that and you figure 657 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: out the rest later on. Yeah. The cornerback Marshawn Latimore 658 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: from Ohio State, a lot of people very high on him. 659 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: A couple of safeties at the top, Jamal Adams from 660 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: l s U. I know he's getting a lot of 661 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: love out there. So it's gonna be fascinating to see 662 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: how those dominoes fall, and then you get to the 663 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: if they decided to stay there. Mike mccagnell has always said, listen, 664 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: we call everybody in front of us, we call everybody 665 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: behind us. There's a ways to go until that happens. 666 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: What do you expect from the Jets once free agency commences? 667 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: That you talked about quarterback a little bit, but maybe 668 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: other positions that they might be looking to target because 669 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: mccagnell wants to go on this draft with as few 670 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: as holes as possible. Obviously, I mean quarterback obviously potentially 671 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: could be the big expenditure for them. You know, you 672 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: have no idea where that market is going to go, 673 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: So I think that will be the first thing they do. 674 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: I could see them. I go back and forth and 675 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: whether they'll dip heavily into the cornerback market looking for 676 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Darrell Reeves replacement in part because the draft is so 677 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: rich with them they might want to postpone that. The 678 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: place that I think they might be um more willing 679 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: to be active is along the offensive one. Um. You know, 680 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles was noncommittal and a lot of things today, 681 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: but he did not commit to Wesley John in its 682 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: center or bringing Now. He praised them and he said 683 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: they can win the job. They can do it, but 684 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: he kind of left the door open and maybe he 685 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: was coach speak, but he kind of left the door 686 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: open for we're gonna pursue our options. So, um, the 687 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: tackle market on free agency isn't thought to be good. Um. 688 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, Ryan Claydy, just released by the Jets, is 689 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: one of the better tackles on the open market, they'll 690 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: they'll be a few younger, healthier guys, but once those 691 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: expensive ones are off the market, you're looking at um 692 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: older veterans who may be coming off injuries. So I 693 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know that the Jets are necessarily gonna want to 694 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: go that route, but they will have a lot of 695 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: cap room to spend, so maybe some of the bigger 696 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: names might be in play for them. Um. Some of 697 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: the rest of it might depend on what they do 698 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: if they release Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker. Receiver is 699 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: not a ridiculous thought. They have good young ones, but 700 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: nobody really proven other than Quincy Ananua, who's still working 701 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: his way up to number one status. Um, I guess 702 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: a tight end if they that's about that as well 703 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: today as a tight end position. Yeah, and that will 704 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: depend on what kind of offense John Morten wants to run. 705 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: But it does sound like they want to emphasize I 706 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: don't know how you can emphasize the tight and less 707 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: than they've done in recent years. They want to do 708 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: that more. Um. But yeah, I mean I think they'll 709 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: be fairly active, but the quarterback is gonna be the 710 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: first thing on the plane. That's that's they have to 711 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: settle that quickly, and then all the rest of the 712 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: dominoes of all in line. As we look at the 713 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: landscape here on press row, I know people are just 714 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: looking at the backdrop, but there's a lot of people 715 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: gathered here. I see the Bills over there, and that's 716 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: one team, uh has a huge decision to make its 717 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: quarterback position. They pick up Tyrod Tayler's option, that I'll 718 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: be there obviously, But if they don't, he becomes a 719 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: free agent there and he's a guy that the Jets 720 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: would have to look at, a different type of quarterback, 721 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: more mobility than a lot of guys on the market. 722 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Not uh, well, I guess I shouldn't say not as accomplished. 723 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: He's not. In his time starting, he's been good, but 724 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: not great. But he matches up fine with most of 725 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the guys who are on the market at the moment. 726 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: So I would definitely think that he would be in play. 727 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: I think he might be a little too expensive for 728 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: the Bills to pick up. But as with all of 729 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: these decisions, um, you know, if you if they don't 730 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: pick up the option on him, they have to answer 731 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: the question, then what do we do? Right? Not a 732 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of people have a and Aaron Rodgers sitting on 733 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: their bench so they can let bred farv go. You know, 734 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: there's not there's usually not a second option on your roster, 735 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: so you better have a good plan when you let 736 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: one get out of your hands. Uh yeah, I don't know. 737 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: From s n Y joining us right now, we're recapping 738 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: Todd Bowl's news conference today talking Jets. We were joined 739 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: earlier by Dane Bruegler, draft guru from CBS Sports. You 740 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: can check him out at DP Bruegler. He's got his 741 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: draft book coming out done, reports on more than four 742 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: hundred uh prospects, only three thirty here. Uh. Kevin Mawai 743 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: NFL Hall of Fame finalists is in the building in 744 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: the Convention Center. He's gonna join us momentarily. Speaking of Ralph, 745 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: what do you think about Kevin now as he enters 746 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, two thousand and eighteen, you think that 747 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: he's got a good chance of eventually getting into Canton 748 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: now that he's a finalist. I do. I think once 749 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: you get into that finalist realm, you're not a lock, 750 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: but pretty close to a lock. The Hall of Fame 751 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: voting is such a complicated process, and there are so few. 752 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: When you think about the number of the fifteen finalists 753 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: that they have, all of them are Hall of Fame worthy, 754 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: but only five of them can get in. Um, they 755 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: have to sometimes, well, let's get this guy in first. 756 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: He's been waiting for a few years. They sort of 757 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: positioned themselves with the voters, so, UM, it wasn't his turn. 758 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that next year will be his turn, 759 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: but I suspect that in the next few years he 760 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: will get in. I think there there's a lot of 761 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: respect for him. And how about the run and center 762 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: for the Jets after after MAUI that draft Nick Mangold 763 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty nine overall two thousand six. Of course the brickshaw 764 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: Ferguson was landed in that draft number four overall. But 765 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: this is an amazing running center for the Jets. It 766 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: really has. I don't know if there are other teams 767 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: that have ever done that for that many years and 768 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: just had two guys. And not only that, it's not 769 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: just two starters. Those two guys basically played almost every 770 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: game up until the middle of last year. There weren't 771 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times where a substitute center was needed. 772 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: So two incredible players, a lot of luck in getting 773 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: them back to back, a lot of skill in identifying 774 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: those players as well, and uh, you know both of 775 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: them will be up in the Ring of Honor. Well, Ralph, 776 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. I really enjoyed 777 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: our talk and you can follow Ralph on Twitter and 778 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: also at s n Y. We're enjoying your coverage. You're 779 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: gonna be here until one, UM, and here on Saturday morning, 780 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: so you'll be you'll be here for the quarterback So 781 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: so Ralph will be talking quarterbacks on Friday. Absolutely, thank 782 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thank you. Alright, So that's Ralph Acciano from 783 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: U sports Net New York, and of course before we're 784 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: joined by Theme Brugler, Draft Guru from a CBS Sports 785 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: and Kevin y is coming aboard right now. Kevin has 786 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: made his way from Chicago. He's in Indianapolis. Good to 787 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: see a buddy. Yeah, Jasination man, Jess Hastian Gang Green. 788 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? How do you feel about that? Doing great? Man? 789 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: It's awesome. Okay, So first off, congratulations as far as 790 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: getting as far as you did. Uh. Now, looking back 791 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame process, being a finalist, Um, how 792 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: would you explain it? How would you describe the past 793 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: couple of months? Um? Interesting, UM, nerve racking at times, 794 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: but UM grateful for the opportunity. Very few people get 795 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: to go to this process. It's a it's being in 796 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: the hall as a Holliday experience. And I'm not there yet, 797 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: but you know, Chris Martin would know, and there's other guys. 798 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: But UM, what I really enjoyed is undergoing through, understanding 799 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: the process, going through it, but spending time with you 800 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: and you know, you guys did a great job on 801 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: the video leading up to that deal and made me 802 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: cry and uh. But talking to the other reporters and 803 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: find it, you know, you know what kind of player 804 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: you were, and it really matters. It means a lot 805 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: when you find out what other people thought about you. 806 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: And to hear what my poems said about me and 807 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: other coaches and the respect that I earned throughout my career, 808 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: that was pretty neat. And then you find these obscure 809 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: facts that of your career, like I had a two 810 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: one games I played in I had ninety hunre yard rushers, 811 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: which is tops for any player in the history of 812 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. Never knew that and that's the first time 813 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah, so that was one of the stats 814 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: that they know the guy. Yeah, that's nine hundred yard 815 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: rushers at a two one games played two and thy started. 816 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: Um so nobody in the NFL has gotten close. It 817 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: was like, I think, you know, I don't know the 818 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: seventeen games gap between mine and the next guy, next 819 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. So stuff like that. You're like, oh, that's 820 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: pretty cool, you know, you know, but it's been it 821 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: was neat going through the process, a little nerve back 822 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: in the last two hours when you either get a 823 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: knock or get a phone call. I got the phone call, unfortunately, 824 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: but um, I couldn't be happier. Man. I think that 825 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: Paul Kaharsky in in Tennessee, John Clayton, I saw him yesterday. Um, 826 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I thank you the other day. Just you know, I've 827 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: said to Gary Myers and Bob Glover. Bob Glover apologized 828 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm like, dude, I'm what are you 829 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: apologizing for? I made? I'm on the top ten. I 830 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: was one of the top ten that made and it 831 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: was pusts me in the top three fifty that's ever 832 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: played this game. And if as long as I had 833 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: that perspective on it, you know. But part of our 834 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: mission here at the Jets is to get you in 835 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: and organizationally, uh, we're gonna make sure that you get 836 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: your right Why I really appreciate that we are on that, 837 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, because you deserve to have 838 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: your bust and Canton and uh, I know, uh, they 839 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: should put you relatively close to Curtis whenever you find 840 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: your way there, because you guys maybe maybe a little 841 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: bit in front. But there's a part of me in 842 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: there already. And and I've said that before with Curtis 843 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: going in ten thousands of his thirteen or fourteen thousand 844 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: yards or mine, you know, aside, you know, because I 845 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: think I went on I R and oh five and 846 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: he went on I are very soon after, so he 847 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: didn't get a whole lot of yards after me. But um, 848 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: so there's a special part of us that are already 849 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: in there. Is the guys that blocked for him over 850 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: the course of our careers. Jason Fabini, uh, you know, 851 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Moore and Dave z I, all these guys. 852 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: There's so many guys that are part of that. And likewise, 853 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: if I get in whether I'm next to Curtis across 854 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: the hall from I don't care. I'm in, That's all 855 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: that matters. But but I go in, I would go 856 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: in knowing that all those same guys that helped Curtis 857 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: get in, the same guys that were part of me 858 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: getting in as well. keV, what was your combine next 859 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: varience like when you came out of nothing like this. 860 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: This is like a circus, But so the combine was here, 861 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: the exist, the Commission Center didn't exist. We're actually sitting 862 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: and I guess would be our c A domes where 863 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: we're at right now, and you know the union station 864 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: where the teams do all their interviews. That process is 865 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: still the same. The meat market of going through and 866 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: your underwear to weigh in and take your measurements is 867 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: still the same um going get in an m R 868 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: S and following the blue tape, of the yellow tape, 869 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: of the green tape on the on the floor. That's 870 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: all the same. The differences the media and what they've 871 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: turned this into be this is the second largest NFL 872 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: experienced in in a given year, next to the Super Bowl. 873 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: From I understand, and we got radio row a combine 874 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: which is unheard of. It's crazy. And then for this 875 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: first time the fans will be able to watch the 876 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: bench press and the forty yard dash, and so they've 877 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: turned it into somewhat of a marketing whatever you wanna 878 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: call it. I'll tell you. You know, Tony Richardson was 879 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: here before. Yeah, so t rich And I don't did 880 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: he get invited the combine because he went in a 881 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: draft pick. He did not get invited like that. He's 882 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: a draft class. So that's what we were just talking 883 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: about it before. There's three thirty guys who get invited here. 884 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: There are a number of players who are gonna be 885 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: playing in the National Football League next year absolutely, who 886 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: don't think are invited here. And that's the thing to 887 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: forty coming out of Auburn. Yeah ran a four four 888 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: played against him in college. Yeah, I know, and he 889 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: didn't get an invite and Auburn, you know, and back 890 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: then in the SEC, Alabama was coming off of a 891 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: i think the second straight national title or something like that. 892 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: Auburn was a very good team. Unfortunately l s U 893 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't so good, but um, but it just goes to 894 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: show kids that if you really want it and you're 895 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: good enough, you're gonna get found. Just because you don't 896 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: get an invite to the combine, that doesn't mean you're 897 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: not gonna make it, have a chance to get in. 898 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: But but there's a little there's a little genetics involved 899 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: in it, and there's a little good luck involved in it, 900 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: and there's a whole lot of hard work involved in it. 901 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: What are some of the measurements and uh uh particulars 902 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: that you remember from your Indian experience. How about on 903 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: the bench not a ton, but you know at the time, 904 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: anything over twenty was good. And I at two d 905 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: seventy one pounds. My official way in was I think 906 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: to seventy one. Um, so I got twenty one reps. 907 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: I was happy with that. I ran a five one two, 908 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: which I just found out that that was faster than 909 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady by the way. So that's unbelievable, isn't. I 910 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: think it's good. I'm just saying myself, you know. But 911 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: here's the story about the five the forty. So at 912 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: the end of the forty they had like a little 913 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: string that you gotta run through the string, But I 914 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: didn't know that, and so as I ran, so you 915 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: probably ran four eight. Then I ran and I pulled 916 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: up with three yards to go because the strength surprised me, 917 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: so I could have I probably put it in faster seven. 918 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: I gave everything my first one and now I don't 919 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: know about four seven, maybe a four nine or five flat, 920 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: but uh, it didn't matter. I still got drafted in 921 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: second round. So they didn't do the L drill, which 922 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: is you gotta do this L drill. They didn't do 923 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: that then, but they did the five five shuttle. I 924 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: think I ran at four seven four. I think that's 925 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: what it was. I'm not sure. Um twenty nine in vertical. 926 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: Who I was thrilled about the twenty nine vertical And 927 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: this is why because at college I only had like 928 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: a twenty seven. But at l s U we jumped 929 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: the vertical in the ramp going out to the stadium, 930 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: so you're actually on an incline on a spongey floor. 931 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: So I got the common I hit twenty nine. I 932 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: was pretty excited about that. The thing, the one thing 933 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: that Dusk I got about the combine was this the 934 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: guy kept calling my name may Wag and it made 935 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: me so mad. And finally by the time I got 936 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: to the vertical jump, Yeah, there was using the expletive 937 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: my name is, my name is bleeping way, and so 938 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then I had I had great workouts, 939 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: like old line workout stuff. Um yeah, So I did 940 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: some of the drills with Wretch Ran about five and 941 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: a half forty five five really yeah. I was in 942 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: rich eyes in his work. He cannot est We'll find 943 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: out this week though, won't we. Yeah. And then the 944 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: vertical was bad though. It was like, yeah, that's bad, 945 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: but the man can't jump, not not this one, not 946 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: this one, that is for sure. Um, what do you 947 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: what do you remember about the interview process talking to 948 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: you know? You remember only there's only one interview that 949 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: stuck out in my mind. I remember interviewing with Seattle. 950 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: That's why I ended up being drafted with there's and 951 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember all the teams, Pittsburgh, Kansas City Chiefs, 952 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: and the one the Chiefs stood out in my mind 953 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: more than anybody because I met one of the regional 954 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: scouts and developed relationship with him through the Senior Bowl 955 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: and so forth. And so I got drafted by Seattle. 956 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: But I got interviewed with the Chiefs and the guy 957 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: one I don't know who it was, but he asked 958 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: me the question, if the Chiefs don't draft you, what 959 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? I mean is that I didn't 960 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: know if that was leading question, or is that like, 961 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: you're not good enough to get drafted by anybody else, 962 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: So if we don't draft you, what are you gonna do? 963 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: I was like, well, the Chiefs don't draft me, somebody 964 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: else is I don't worry about it. I mean that 965 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: that was the dumbest question I thought, because it was 966 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: kind of presumptuous to think that, so that that's the 967 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: only team is going to draft me. And um, As 968 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: it turns out, I found out years later that a 969 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: team wanted to put me in the first round, late 970 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: first round. It would have been twenty six, when I 971 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: was twenty something overall on this one, and I got 972 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: flunked on my physical with the combine and I was 973 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: the last guy standing in my draft class sixteen years later, 974 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: so I could have been a first round heer, but 975 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 1: I got flunked by one of the teams that happens 976 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: to be a divisional arrival of the Jets, and it 977 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: rhymes with what Hills. Oh, so the Bills. I found 978 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: this out. I didn't intership with the bills. One of 979 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: the old time Scott said, I had you rated as 980 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: the first round er. We wanted to take you in 981 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: the first round, but had to take you off the board. 982 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: The doctor funked on your physical and what sixteen years later, 983 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: no suck us. That was a true story. That's what 984 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: they told me. Thanks so much for stopping by. Thanks everybody, 985 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: uh for tuning in because we've had a great show 986 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: here on Radio. Rodane Brugler talking draft and Rolfagia I 987 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: don't reviewed, Todd Bolts news conference and uh, a legendary 988 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: jet joins us here at Radio ro Kevin Way. Thanks 989 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: so much for your time, Thanks you for tuning in. 990 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, man, Gang Green, Go Gangreen.