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Speaker 1: how men think? Round two? This is brooks Like with

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Speaker 1: the girl. I haven't said anything and you're laughing. What's up, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about what this round is going to

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Speaker 1: not We're not sugarcoating this one. We're getting into the

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Speaker 1: Our producer Amy came to us, she said on an

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Speaker 1: email and said, how do you guys, how do you

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Speaker 1: I said, well, what do you mean? I said? She said,

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Speaker 1: way I'm thinking, I said, I used toilet. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about number two yea as much as any And she said, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's something there, guys, apparently

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Speaker 1: what they call it Texas top hat, I believe, which

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Speaker 1: So you make hats and out we're living. It's a

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Speaker 1: And then if you ever run out, maybe diapers are

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Speaker 1: more of you. Well, if you ever run out of

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's okay. And I'd love to hear what you

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Speaker 1: guys think about that. I agree with that. I I'm

426
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Speaker 1: an advocate for people to be selfish in their life

427
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: as far as what makes them happy. Now, that doesn't

428
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: mean step on people, that doesn't mean hurt people, that

429
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean but it means you have one life to

430
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: live here in charge of it. Nobody else is going

431
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: to do it for you. Something that's going to fulfill

432
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: you and light you up by all means, go do

433
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: it please. And I hate when people turned down the

434
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: thermostat on their life to accommodate other people. And especially

435
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: if you have a the right partner, maybe there's a

436
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: litmus test for the right partner in your life. Is

437
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: Ryan If you go away and you said I had

438
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: the most amazing time babe, this is awesome, and she says,

439
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: that's awesome. When I tell me more, I want to

440
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: hear all about it. That's the right partner. If you

441
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: have somebody that says, how dare you be away? Blah

442
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: blah blah, that's maybe the wrong partner for you. That's

443
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: how I look at it. My wife and I we

444
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: travel a lot for work, both of us um and

445
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: celebrate the opportunity to go and do these things that

446
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: each of us have the greatest life we could imagine,

447
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: and we support one another in doing it. But we

448
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: are being selfish in a way by doing it, but

449
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: we are connection is strong enough and we communicate well

450
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: enough that it's not an issue. You guys, what do

451
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, that makes sense. I mean I agree.

452
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: I mean, you're here, You've got four kids at home,

453
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: you're here. What's what's your wife thinking? We're in Oakland

454
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: right now. It's and that was the thing. It's like,

455
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I said, hey, listen, I'm going up to Oakland. Um

456
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the podcast from up there. And she said, okay, great.

457
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: She's very supportive. In fact, the night before I left,

458
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: she had to go to Colorado or something. So you know,

459
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: we told the kids it's you know, mommy's away tonight

460
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: and I'm here and then tomorrow night I'm gonna be away,

461
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's like and you know, that's just that's the

462
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: way it is. And I think you have to be

463
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: supportive of each other. And when you don't, when you

464
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: start having whatever jealousy like, oh, you went to visit

465
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 1: too for your friends, you know, birthday or whatever. If

466
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: you have jealousy about somebody, about your partner having fun

467
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: and doing stuff that makes I'm happy, then that's not

468
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: that's not a healthy relationship. And there's an issue. There's

469
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: a deep, you know, underlying issue there. If you're if

470
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: things that make your partner happy don't make it doesn't

471
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: make you happy that they're happy, that's that there's a problem.

472
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: I can't give you a perspective of someone who doesn't

473
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: have children. Yes, sir, let's have it. Not married um,

474
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: single man. Yeah, you want me to put that out

475
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: for I'll put that out for it for you body,

476
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: very single, very eligible. But it's gonna be about a

477
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: woman missing you in every city. No, it's not about that.

478
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: It's it's for me. Uh. When I think about this conversation,

479
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: I hear. Your perspectives are all valid, They're all important,

480
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: right to each of you. That are important. Uh as

481
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: the person who doesn't have a family, Um, it's important

482
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: to me as well. Uh for I guess from this

483
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 1: sort of preventative angle which has been so here, I am.

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an adult, I'm not married, I don't

485
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't have children. But I think a large part

486
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: of me delaying that game in my life essentially that

487
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: that element of what I would consider what makes it

488
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: a full life is that I know what my job

489
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: entails and the amount of travel that it entails, and

490
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I always felt like I wouldn't have time for that.

491
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: And so I until I feel like I have time

492
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: for that. Uh as far as fatherhood is concerned, um,

493
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I've always felt like I won't be ready for that.

494
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm somebody who grew up in

495
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: a lower middle class household. Um my dad was a

496
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: prison guard, my mom was a dtox specialist, and so

497
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't have really money, but my dad

498
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: was there every day. So until I feel like I

499
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: could match that, which I may not be able to

500
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: ever do, because I mean, like I mean, if you're

501
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: read the Odyssey, right, So so sort of how it

502
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: sort of sums up this this uh, this life challenge

503
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: of of of a young man to try to try

504
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: to live up to the image of his father, which ultimately,

505
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: as we all know, is the impossible in so many ways.

506
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: The stories that you hear from a lot of dads.

507
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Of course, not not all dads are great, but a

508
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: lot of guys who grow up knowing their fathers, they

509
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: paint this picture of their father that is absolutely and

510
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: you can't master it, you can't possibly live up to it,

511
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure, the same way that some women with you

512
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: their mothers. And so because I felt like I wouldn't

513
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: be able to live up to that and be the

514
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: father my dad has been for me, uh, it's made

515
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: me sort of put that on the back burner and

516
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways sort of put that element

517
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Speaker 1: of life on hold, because even though you guys are

518
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: celebrating great lives and full lives, I hear the struggle

519
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: that you have and and it's something that I understand

520
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: is valid, valid, uh level of anks for for anybody.

521
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: You know that in six situations. But to that point,

522
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: not that I'm telling you run out and get married

523
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: and have kids. But keep in mind, I don't think

524
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: when when my dad for everything he meant to me

525
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: and everything that I that, I think he was such

526
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: a great dad and he did this, and I don't

527
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: think he ever sat there and thought, oh my god,

528
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm being this is look at me, I'm being a

529
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: great dad. I've got it all put together. I'm here

530
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: all the time. Listen. I like, I don't think that

531
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: I'm always there for my kids. I try and be

532
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: as much as I can. But when I see them,

533
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I know that they don't. They don't look at me

534
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: and think, oh, he's never around. He's I don't think

535
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: my dad was ever like, look at me. I got

536
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: it all figured out. This is the perfect the perfect

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: situation just fell upon me. So keep that in mind

538
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: when you're like, I want to make sure that I'm

539
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: there for your kids. You'll be there, but it doesn't

540
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: mean constantly being there. So can I gab I ask

541
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: you a question because this is coming from somebody who

542
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: my twenties to thirties, I was intensely devoted to my

543
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: career as an athlete, didn't have the capacity or composure

544
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: to welcome a relationship really into my life. So I

545
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Um, that switched when I

546
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: met and I actually switched personally in me a little

547
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: bit once I hit about UM, I developed a little

548
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: more composure and growth personally, and I met my wife

549
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: just at the right time in my life. But in

550
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: your life, what do you think that looks like, that

551
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: moment where maybe you do have that capacity to bring

552
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: on a serious relationship and a potential life partner or kids.

553
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Do you have an idea of what that might look like?

554
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Given your career as an artist, a traveling artist touring, UM,

555
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, I sort of fantasize about what it could

556
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: look like, what it should look like, you know, sort

557
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: of like these uh I think we've all been sort

558
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: of brought up on these uh the with these these

559
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: these romance novel versions of what perfect looks like. And

560
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: as we all know, it's simply entertainment a lot of

561
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: those stories and they are the life is imperfect. But

562
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: we all sort of have been told what perfect should

563
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: look like, at least in many different versions of what

564
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: perfect should look like. UM. So of course I have

565
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: all of those those fantastical con steps of what it

566
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: should look like, right, but what it could look like.

567
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Are two different things right and what it should could

568
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: look like? Do you think this should look like? Is

569
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: limiting you a little bit? Like trying to fit something

570
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: into this? So and so I've gotten and as you know,

571
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago, my mom had passed,

572
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: and so that sort of just sent everything just spinning,

573
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, for me, just absolutely spinning. Um. So it

574
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: became much more sort of a reminder of of, uh,

575
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: you never know when it's going to happen, you know

576
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, like how long your life is going

577
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: to be in these things? So it's some elements of

578
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: me or think sees sees the moment go out and

579
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: just have the greatest time and go crazy or whatever.

580
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: And of course there's an other element, which is you

581
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: know you're not going to be here forever and have

582
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: a family and make something in you know, the image

583
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: of yourself, of your father, of your mother, etcetera. So

584
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I have an idea of what it like I said

585
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: it should look like, but this sort of, uh, the

586
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: the the high wall of what what what you're up

587
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: against in in in s like um, just speaking from

588
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: personal experience, I'm actually excited for you and I'm excited

589
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: to get to know you more and follow your journey. Um,

590
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be surprising when it think when it

591
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: does happen, it's gonna be surprising and awesome. I never

592
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: thought I would marry an American girl. I thought the

593
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: rest of my life, i'd go back to Canada. I'd

594
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: live back in Saskatchewan. Um, maybe coach hockey back there,

595
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: something like that. Now I'm living in Los Angeles doing

596
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: a podcast with you guys, married to an American girl

597
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: who is a dancer, an artist, where I was a

598
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: sports guy. I mean, it's amazing. I once had a

599
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: good friend tell me, if you want to make God laugh,

600
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: tell him your plans, and and it was so true.

601
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: It ranks so true. I thought I had my life

602
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: laid out, this is the way it was gonna go.

603
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: And then one day somebody walked into my life. Julianne

604
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: walked into my life and changed everything. So, UM, be open.

605
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: My only advice to you would be open to things

606
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: that you aren't seeing. Um. I thought my life was

607
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: going one way, and man, did it go the other way.

608
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for that. Said yeah, well, said,

609
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: so we're in agreement. We should all go to Vegas. Rick,

610
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: you call Ryan's mom wife and let her maybe ye

611
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: get Vegas. But a horrible time you're having with us

612
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: in Vegas. The one thing I do want to add

613
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: to that is my brother, who's five years older than me.

614
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: He kind of paved the path for myself and my

615
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: sister and whatnot and kind of set the bar pretty highs.

616
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: But I had kids a lot earlier than he did. Um.

617
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: He has a three year old now. But I felt

618
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: like as we were going getting into the age that

619
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: we are now, he was sort of always concerned about

620
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: lining up his ducks. You know. He was like, I

621
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: gotta make enough money, I gotta have the right house

622
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I got, you know, or whatever. Um. And I think

623
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: once he had the kid, he was kind of like, oh, okay,

624
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: good like. And I kept telling him like, dude, just

625
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: do it, like, don't worry about it. You know, like

626
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: you don't know what the kids, you know, you don't

627
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna work for you know. I mean,

628
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: it's a whole Once you have that child, it's a

629
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: whole another deal. It's a whole another ball game, you know,

630
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: especially between you and the kid and you and your wife,

631
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, and whatnot. And so there's all these new dynamics,

632
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, I want to just encourage him,

633
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: like don't wait and go like have one because it

634
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: is really the best thing ever to have a kid,

635
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: a girl, boy, whatever, you know. And it's it's, uh,

636
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's you never know what life's gonna wright you.

637
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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's to Brooks's point, it's cool

638
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: right on, This is how men think. And on this

639
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: show we have opened it up to your to our listeners,

640
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: will always have it open to our listeners. We want

641
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: to know questions, insight, comment from you guys. You can

642
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: email us at men at I Heart radio dot com.

643
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Speaker 1: And we have a question right now. We're gonna call

644
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: this segment is really like ask us anything. We're an

645
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: open source for you guys, men and women, ask us anything.

646
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: But we're going to call it a little more of

647
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: a fun name. Um. That's what he said is what

648
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with for this segment. So Danielle, our producer,

649
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: has a question for us. All right, So this comes

650
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: from Jessica, and Jessica is asking from a man's perspective,

651
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: how are you guys affected by a woman's kind ecological?

652
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, rewind. This is from Jessica and she

653
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: is asking from a man's perspective, how are guys affected

654
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: by a woman's kindacological? Oh my god, sin ecological. I

655
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: can't do the word. Oh my god. Okay, gin ecological? Okay, Okay,

656
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: here I know, I got okay. This is from Jessica

657
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Speaker 1: and she is asking from a woman's perspective, how are

658
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: you guys affected by a women's issues such as endometriosis,

659
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: p MS, etcetera. I'll touch on the endometriosis when my

660
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: wife openly has admitted and has endometriosis. UM, God, bless

661
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: her heart. She does a lot of UM trying to

662
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: raise awareness for women to find out if they have it.

663
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Speaker 1: And I think it's a last episode. I believe one

664
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Speaker 1: in ten women have endometriosis. And can you explain what

665
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: that is? UM? I really don't know. I should have

666
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: more UM, but it it essentially can make getting pregnant

667
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: naturally a little more difficult. That it's something to do

668
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: with UM. Oh, Eastern's got it, Easton has it. It

669
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: can be siss on the so she does have siss

670
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Speaker 1: on over that. I don't. I'm not I don't know

671
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: how much I want to get into this exactly. And

672
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: my wife has it too. Um. And first of all,

673
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult to get diagnosed. Yeah, the hell of

674
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: the time finding a doctor that knew what it was.

675
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: It's it sists on your uterus, and it causes intense pain. Um,

676
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: just all kinds of discomfort. She had to have an

677
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: like an incision and some was that lacroscopic surgery. Yeah,

678
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: to to have them remove it. They just can come back.

679
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: It's horrible. So and and it can be unpleasant or

680
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: uncomfortable during a course. Um. But for me, I mean,

681
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: I love my wife. This is nothing. This has no

682
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: bearing at all on our relationship or on like I

683
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: understand that her body. She didn't choose to get it,

684
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: she didn't do anything to get it. She has indometriosis.

685
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: We move forward with it. So we've done. We talked

686
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: about it last episode. We did uh IVF and froze

687
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: some of her eggs in case we do have trouble

688
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: getting pregnant naturally. Um. But fully accepting of my partner

689
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: of my wife, absolutely love her and we'll move forward

690
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: and whatever comes our way in life comes our way.

691
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: So for me, that's a non issue. May I be

692
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Speaker 1: so bold and ask the question that women all want

693
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: to know. But it's a bold one for you guys.

694
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Do you care about period sex? Would that stop you?

695
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: This is one for Gavin, gav buddy, and tell the truth.

696
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: That's what this is. So tell the truth. So if

697
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: it's a no, we can handle it. We can handle it.

698
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: Thank you, Gavin. I think Dmitri, Okay, here's the thing

699
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not again, I've done it. Um. I

700
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: think it's more preferable to be to the very beginning

701
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: or the very end of the period cycle. Um. But

702
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a good thing when you're

703
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: with someone that that regardless of the time, you guys

704
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: kind of want to be together. So if it happens

705
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: to be in the middle, then you know, you know

706
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: what to deal with it. I mean, obviously something. I

707
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: think that. So just so we can educate them, Daniel,

708
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: will you jump in here. It's not the middle you want.

709
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: The middle is the worst part. But I tell you

710
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Day one is pretty light. I said, the beginning or

711
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: the end Day two and three, nobody wants to be

712
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: doing it. But day like four or five, you barely

713
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: would know. I mean, this is supposed to be it's

714
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: not as comfortable from a man's perspective, it's it's does

715
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: not the sensation is not as enjoyable. Yeah, from my

716
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: perspective is that the time of the month when men

717
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: should be planning their fishing trip. Oh, we'll look you there,

718
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I gotta buy. What do you guys say? Personally? I mean,

719
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: from the beginning of when I first met my wife,

720
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: there's nothing that grosses me out. So it's like, it

721
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: is what it is. There's there is literally nothing that

722
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: could gross me out a thousand percent. We can find

723
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: something it goes I'm saying with respect to my sex

724
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: life with my wife, like, there's not I've never been

725
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: grossed out by any of that. It's like a fact

726
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: of life, and it is what it is. And I

727
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: can't agree with Brooks though. It's a total different sensation,

728
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: is what I you know, it's it's not not the same, so,

729
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, quite frankly to me, it's a no, you know,

730
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather wait the whatever you're waiting anyway, I will

731
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: say this, I don't know if I'm wrong on this one,

732
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: but and maybe we need producer Danielle or producering me

733
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: to wait in on this. I feel like towards towards

734
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: the end or maybe after you guys feeling a little

735
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: bit more of it. Are you feeling like you kind

736
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: of want to You're a little friskier two days before.

737
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: It's like whoa, And then the problem is we're actually

738
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: friskier during the days you don't want to do it.

739
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: It's really weird. It's like it's God's punishment maybe because

740
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: it's like that's when we really want it, but we

741
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: don't want to do it because do you know what

742
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Because I don't want to do it on

743
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: those days, like when I look at the calendar and

744
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: I know I got like a vacation with somebody, and

745
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: you literally go, can you bleet me? Because you're so

746
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: bummed that the calendar just screwed you? And so we

747
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: don't want to do it either. I don't know. I

748
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: can't from the calendar. I get my wife and I

749
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: did long distance for three and a half years, and

750
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it just lined up like that just because those

751
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: are the only days that we could make work with

752
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: my schedule or her schedule. UM, So I get it

753
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: that it's um that being said, I mean, you know

754
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: it's it's not my first choice. Um, but I've, as

755
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Demitri said, have done it and um, but it's also

756
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: just a great time to get some damn good sleep

757
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: to you. Like, just just get some good sleep in there. Okay.

758
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: So the second question we have is from Amy Pass,

759
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: and our question is how come when we text you

760
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: three questions you only respond to one of them? We

761
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: prioritize the most important. I don't know, we can't figure

762
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: all three out. I mean, why are you sending three

763
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: rapid questions? Like why don't you just if you pick

764
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: a question, ask it and then we'll answer it. And

765
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: like why is this like the lightning round? Like send

766
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: us a question, we'll answer, Like pretend your text is

767
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: a conversation, Amy, you're a horrible texter. You will write

768
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: hey in the text, next, got next, a question next,

769
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: and it's like just hey, slow it down, think it through.

770
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Ask us a question and we'll answer, and then ask

771
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: the next one. But if you sent three questions, it's

772
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: like it doesn't seem genuine, like do you really want

773
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: the answer? You're just trying to like, I don't know,

774
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: we'll give you an answer, but that's that's a lot,

775
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: so you want one at a time. Can you guys

776
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: talk about this to texting versus phone calls because we

777
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: want the phone calls, but it seems like you guys

778
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: prefer texting. What's everybody's thoughts on that. I have a

779
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: capacity to handle like three phone calls and five text

780
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: messages a day. That's about Yet then I'm on overload.

781
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Um I honestly, I honestly like FaceTime most often, Like whatever,

782
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: whenever I call you, Amy, it's I FaceTime you because

783
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, it's an easy way to punch in,

784
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: punch out versus like texting, and just I don't have

785
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: a capacity to do that. I actually like the phone call.

786
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I enjoy FaceTime more. It's like, hey, how are you?

787
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: There's my question? What's up? Okay? What are you doing?

788
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: A great piece that because you're handsome, but no one

789
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: wants a FaceTime to get the FaceTime coming in and

790
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you're like, this is the last thing I want is

791
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: for them to see me right now. Face is I don't.

792
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't give a deal on FaceTime. He's like, he's like,

793
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: my favorite facing timing is a lot. It's a commitment,

794
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Like what if I see a FaceTime coming first time,

795
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: like that's a pocket FaceTime. They did not mean to

796
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: face You're like looking in the mirror, like if it's

797
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: it's not your birthday, I'm not FaceTime and yet what Yeah?

798
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: I am I alone in this? Are you FaceTime? The

799
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: majority of the people you don't even know? I would

800
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: FaceTime I FaceTime. Probably out of ten phone calls, seven

801
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: of them would be faced that. What do you do

802
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: when when when you travel, because you travel more than

803
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: probably any of us right now. Mostly text? Yeah, mostly text.

804
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: But I find that if it if it's at all

805
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: any kind of if it's any kind of intimate, like

806
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: if you if you're like having a situation, if you're dating,

807
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: trying to date somebody or whatever, the text is a

808
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: horrible way to go because everything's lost some translation and

809
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and you have to put a phone call it. Yeah

810
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? FaceTime? Do you FaceTime? Not much?

811
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't face time much, um, just because

812
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: it's like kind of pain to FaceTime. I don't want

813
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: to have to look at the phone, you know, not

814
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: to mention forget about role. If you accidentally roll your

815
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: eye on FaceTime and you're done. If you make the

816
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: wrong facial expression, you're done. Um yeah, what you got buddy? Right? Also,

817
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: you know what else, if you're face timing, it's hard

818
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: for you to it's hard for you to text while

819
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: you're having a conversation. But you're not. That's the point

820
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: of that's the point of talking about. You got something

821
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: to do. Man, you gotta get back to people like yeah,

822
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: it's so so then just look at it like like

823
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: like I gotta go, I got stuff, I gotta I

824
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: gotta go. I'll talk to you soon. Okay, it goes.

825
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: If I'm FaceTime and it's no problem, you can be

826
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: sitting out. Does FaceTime have cause with people? Yeah? I

827
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: mean I'm going if I'm face If I'm FaceTime and

828
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: that girl, how can I text other ones? That's not

829
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's comfortable. The guy has been married along.

830
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: That's the issue. That's that's me here and the rock stars.

831
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: The star says, if I'm FaceTime and how can I text?

832
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: So then the follow up question of that is do

833
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: you ever cross text? That is a fear? Isn't it

834
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: the cross text? But you could do that in any occasion.

835
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I've done that for sure. I have. I have. I

836
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: had a teammate once that accidentally cross text and you're

837
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: talking about intimately, oh yeah, and accidentally and then blamed

838
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: it on me like I was a scapegoat, but never

839
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: told me and so then I got confronted about it

840
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, and then like I just

841
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I just took a bullet. I took a bullet because

842
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: I figured something was up. And then like a couple

843
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: of minutes later, I was like, I saw my buddy.

844
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this and he's like, oh,

845
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you. I'm like, dude, I tell me.

846
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the Fire Festival documentary so you

847
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: know that Ovin Sorry, you gotta watch it, but you

848
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: know the eavy On water guy. Come on, guys, I've

849
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: seen both documents, the Avian water. He was gonna, you

850
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: know what to get the water? Yes, So I was

851
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: trying to tell no. He walked into the hotel. I

852
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: was at a hotel. He walked in. I freaked out.

853
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: I got so excited as I started texting people like

854
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: friends and I texted, he's here, and I sent the

855
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: egg plan emoji with the water to the wrong person

856
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: to like a seven year old professional man. I started.

857
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: I started pouring. So you cross text anybody else in

858
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: our community, any listeners out there, If you have a

859
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: great story, that's what I want to get out. If

860
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: somebody out there has a fantastic story of cross texting,

861
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: send us an email or do you have one, Oh, Danielle,

862
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of women can relate to this.

863
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: But when you're texting a guy, let's say I'm just

864
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm dating somebody, I'm texting that guy. I will text

865
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: my girlfriend to ask what I should respond with the guy. However,

866
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: it's happened so many times before where I've screenshot at

867
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: a conversation and sent it back to the guy instead

868
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: of sending it to my friend and he's like, why

869
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: did he just screenshot our conversation? Like hurt? But that

870
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: happens is so many people, is so many of my before.

871
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: So this is something I really want your honest opinions on.

872
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna want to give the politically

873
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: correct answer, but if you can give the real answer,

874
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: I have no interest in. So there's a girl I

875
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: follow on Instagram, so she doesn't shave at all, not

876
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: any not legs. For some reason, it's really hard for

877
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: me say the word armpit, but I'm just gonna say

878
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: it not armpit. That's a struggle to say that word

879
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: legs nothing. And what I think is interesting is any

880
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: time she shows that on her Instagram, women criticize it

881
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: or kind of make comments, and then other women come

882
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: on and defend her, and it's this big sort of thing.

883
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering, as you, five men, what do you

884
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: really think? Like, what do you really think about that?

885
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: I think I mean, Gavin gave an example when I

886
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: was talking about lasering my eyebrows. If she ever gets

887
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: caught in a blizzard outside the Mall of America, she's

888
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: gonna need that hair for warmth. She's she's resourceful. Could

889
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: be a regional thing. Does she live in Canada? No?

890
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Is that common in Canada? She lives in California. Because

891
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: I think women are going to email us at men

892
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: at I Heart radio dot com. No matter what you

893
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: guys say. Think you're gonna lose lose here because I

894
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be irritated by you if you don't

895
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: say it's okay. But I want you to be honest.

896
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot. This is Rick speaking, Here's

897
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: the thing I think. Listen, I think everyone should do

898
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: what they want. Okay, if that's what she wants, and

899
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: if she is with someone or isn't with something and

900
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: they're fine with it, then that's fine. I mean, the

901
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: fact that she's posting it, she's inviting the comments. Okay,

902
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: me personally, I trim. I trim what I want to

903
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: trim because makes me more comfortable. So if she doesn't

904
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: want to trim, that's up to her. And if whoever

905
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: she's with, whoever her partner is, that's fine. But unfortunately,

906
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: once you go posting it, you're inviting the comments. So

907
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what her responsive, she has problems with

908
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: all the comments, or if she's fighting back or clapping

909
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: back or whatever. But the thing is, once you do that,

910
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you're you're kind of inviting it. So my my thought

911
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: on this is if it makes you feel good and

912
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: in your own world you're happy with it, then do it.

913
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: But if you're doing it and then putting it out

914
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: there and getting mad at people for commenting about it,

915
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: then that's on you. This is a topic for Professor

916
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: to graw In on. Thanks Doc. My opinion on this

917
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: um single Man's opinion the single guy, Well, I guess

918
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: I have a general question, which should be does she

919
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: get her hair cut on her head? And what does

920
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: her hairstyle look like? And it's just a short haircut,

921
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: has more to makeup. She's very, very pretty. It's just

922
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: that's something she doesn't want to do for whatever different reasons.

923
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: But as men, are you, I'm just gonna really cut

924
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: to the chase. Are you more attracted to a woman

925
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: that does? Or do you care? See you're all I

926
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: am more attracted to someone. Has anybody been with someone

927
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: who has not? This thing to me as a man

928
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: is to look at a woman who looks so opposite

929
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: of anything masculine. Um, that's what I find sexy. So

930
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: I already have body hair. I feel like I have

931
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: that part covered. But now she has no hair and

932
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: her whal body but a little patrick here that doesn't

933
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: grow on my face. I may say that's totally different

934
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: than me, but you know, for me, I'm not looking

935
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: for somebody who has any any esthetic at all reminiscent

936
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: of my looks, and I'm just looking for the absolute opposite.

937
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: I yeah, I agree, I have no interest in that.

938
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Um, body hair, not attractive, not physically

939
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: attractive to me in what I want to see on

940
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: my partner. My wife, um, looks very feminine and to

941
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: me that's very very attractive. Yeah, we're here to give opinions, right, Well, No,

942
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: here's the thing. They can have their own perspective. When

943
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: that first came up, you asked what we thought of it,

944
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: and so I said, if she wants to do what

945
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: she wants doing it. But if you're asking me some

946
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: point blank, if I find that attractive, I don't. So

947
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: I agree with Gavin Burton, and I think everybody here,

948
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: um yeah, it's like that's not what mentally, what I'm

949
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: accustomed to and what I think of, and therefore doesn't

950
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: trigger an attraction to me. So if someone were to

951
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: come to me and say, hey, look at me, I

952
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: haven't shaved my armpits and my legs, I say, well,

953
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: that's not that I don't. I'm sorry. That's great for you,

954
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: but I do not find that attractive. And I think

955
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that they may look at

956
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: us and be like, oh my god, like that guy's

957
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: got you know, short hair, or that guy has long

958
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: hair that's disgusting, or he has blonde hair or black hair,

959
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: no hair or chest hair as a societal and political

960
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: statement is the difference. No, not at all. And that's

961
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: what I think. Yeah, it's like that. It is no doubt,

962
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: it's an open window into but we don't know that.

963
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: And I think Amy is just kind of like, do

964
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you guys like it or don't? That's that's how I'm interpreting.

965
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: We don't know that she's doing that. But she's posting

966
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: a photo on Instagram with her arm up showing the thing,

967
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: so she's not high, she's not not calling attention to it.

968
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: I think she wants her to be a conversation like this.

969
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: It's an old conversation. Has anybody ever been with somebody

970
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: that that was like that, that has not chosen to shave,

971
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: whether it's arm, pits or legs. When I was a teenager,

972
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: I went to a to a Woodstock reunion kind of thing,

973
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, because I grew up near the original woodstock location,

974
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: right uh near Yaser's farm, And of course they'd have

975
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: these revivals every year, you know, celebrating woods the nineteen

976
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: sixty and anally stuff, so you know, all the hippies

977
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: and the faux hippies, and people who just like are

978
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: not hippies, but they would you know, the by ten

979
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: dollar ted eyed t shirt walk around right all there.

980
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: And of course there's a lot of girls there who

981
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're teenage girls, twenty year olds, you know

982
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was like sixteen at the time,

983
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of girls in that that

984
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: age range. We just you know, we're that kind of

985
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: those kind of girls. You know, um, you know, fire

986
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: pits and drum circles and that whole thing. Everybody smelled

987
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: like but chuli, you know what I mean. And so

988
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: there are some cute girls out there. I mean I

989
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: had a ball um but you know, um, but I

990
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: can't say encountering that little underarm goate was a highlight

991
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: of my teenage years. You know. So you've been there, Yeah,

992
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I seen it. I was about sixteen. Boy. So when

993
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: we've when we flipped back through your picture book, there's

994
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: not you in an underarm groate and like smiling. That's

995
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: that's looks like I have two heads of hair. Okay,

996
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: So we have a question from Tiffany and she is asking,

997
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: what are you insecure about on your body? Let too many,

998
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: too many muscles, on my on my being the perfect shape.

999
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: The twelfth ab muscle protrudes too much and it hurts

1000
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: when I bend over. My abs are so pronounced. This

1001
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: is everyone. His face was awesome. Really starts to hurt,

1002
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: Like everyone, we get it. You work out, well, you start,

1003
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: you started, buddy, what do you all dive in? Because

1004
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what the hell, I'm forty five,

1005
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: great hairs and sort of fat, and I don't really care.

1006
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is great. Both thanks a lot

1007
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: of appreciate that, you know what. I joked about him

1008
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: since we got together. But like I, you know, I

1009
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: am kind of self conscious about my chin and the

1010
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: third one more so than the second one, but the

1011
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: first one I really want to keep around. So the

1012
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: fifth one kind of leads right down into like the

1013
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: stomach area. It kind of all it's good, like when

1014
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: you're in the sun and then you get up and

1015
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: there's just like all the way across it's good. Yeah,

1016
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: it's nice. But that's what we asked Rick for the

1017
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: thing that he feels most sensitive about it, and we

1018
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: started beating on the You guys are nice, that's it.

1019
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: But I do think about you know, It's like I

1020
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of mentally beat myself up about working out and

1021
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: and like not that I'm focusing on that particular area,

1022
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: but I think as an overall mentality of saying, hey,

1023
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I need to go work out today, or you know

1024
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: because of X, Y and Z, or I look in

1025
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: the mirror shave or whatever, and it's like I need

1026
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: to take care of that. Um, are you active right now?

1027
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Like are you? Are you very inactive? Actually you've seen

1028
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: those elephant seals, right, That's kind of what I feel

1029
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: like every once in a while when I look in

1030
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: the mirror. But um, I know it's not the case.

1031
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: Does it change if you become very active or somewhat

1032
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: active somewhat? Yeah, yeah, somewhat. So then you have the

1033
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: power to think about you know. And then you get

1034
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: the other side of it where your wife or was like, hey,

1035
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: well you know you can take care of that, and

1036
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: it's like I may, I am taking care of it.

1037
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to the gym every day or or whatnot.

1038
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: But she's like no, no, no, you can like go

1039
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: and get it frozen off or sucked out or however

1040
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: you want to do it, you know, And I'm like, no,

1041
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm not into that, hm, anybody else I'm

1042
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: self conscious about a little bit of everything, you know,

1043
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: maybe that's what you know. Like I'll give you an example, right, So,

1044
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: uh so last week I went to the dentists and uh,

1045
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, I just I had going because I had

1046
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: a feeling I needed done. And so they're doing that

1047
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, you don't mind whiting in my

1048
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: teeth a little bit? They're like, no, certainly not. I

1049
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: was like like three D shades lighter, like as white

1050
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: as you can get these things, like like whiter than

1051
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: my pupils, you know, and and like because I need

1052
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: to do because I never go in the sun, so

1053
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I look like, you know, a ghost, you know. It's

1054
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: like a cross between like a ghost and like somebody

1055
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: with jaundice. So so like if I don't know, yeah,

1056
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: so if I don't care if my teeth, you know, yeah,

1057
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: then if they're not really white, then you can't tell

1058
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: that look white at all, because you know, what they're

1059
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: up against is like this, so instead of tanning, you're

1060
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: just whiteing your teeth oddly, the sort of the translucent

1061
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: color that I have. And so because I hate going

1062
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: to the sun, you know, because when I was a kid,

1063
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: I was a lifeguard and I had to sit on

1064
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: that damn chair all day long. Man, And I said, man,

1065
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would. I was like hoping

1066
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: somebody would go under just so I could cool off,

1067
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: you know. And so you know, so so in there,

1068
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, yeah, just make these things

1069
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: as white as damn possibly, you know. And then they're like, okay,

1070
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: we've gotten pretty wet. I was like, hey, why you're

1071
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: in there? Um while you're in there, yeah, like yeah,

1072
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: because you know that stuff in your mouth. I was like,

1073
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: how long would it take you to straighten these things out?

1074
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: You know? And they're like, well, what do you mean?

1075
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, I had left, you know,

1076
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: and uh And they're like, yeah, I mean we could.

1077
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: We could do a couple of things, you know. I said,

1078
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: maybe like some of those invisil line or I had

1079
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: braces when I was a kid, but I didn't want

1080
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: to wear the retainer because they looked too straight. I

1081
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: looked like wimpy because they were too straight, and I

1082
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to get them a little crooked again.

1083
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: But now they're like a little gangly, you know, so

1084
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: now I want them straight as could be. You know

1085
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: this is how man thing right. I was like, I

1086
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: can't look if it looks too good, then I'm gonna

1087
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: look like a pretty boy in this. Somebody will mess

1088
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: with you and then you know, like get him a

1089
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: little crooked, you know. And so now I'm an adult,

1090
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I mean, I want my tea

1091
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: straightened out again. You know, why did I why did

1092
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: I wear my retainer? Come play some hockey? But they

1093
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: come play some hockey. Man. I lost my front four

1094
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: te four times. See that? Do you have implants? They

1095
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: broken half? So they just they broken half. They broken

1096
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: half like vertically and half or like a cross like across.

1097
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: How do you do that? The first time I lost them,

1098
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: I was twenty three, just got high sticked, but just

1099
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: a stick just took him right. I came to the bench,

1100
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: pulled up my mouth guard front forward, just broken half.

1101
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: And then after that then hockey players a really good

1102
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: dentist um, and then they filled them me and they

1103
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: put all like fake bottoms on them, and then after

1104
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: that they got I lost them twice in two weeks.

1105
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: One time one was of the puck, one was of

1106
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: the stick from a teammate in practice, and then I

1107
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: lost them one more time. So you wanna you wanna

1108
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: you want to fix up your teeth? Buddy? The game

1109
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: you keep playing after that happened, Yeah, it's actually yeah,

1110
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: it's it's fine. You don't really feel it. Did you

1111
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: find this the other halfs on the I know they're

1112
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: just in your mouth guard. They come out in your

1113
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: mouth guard, you pull your mouth guard out, and they're

1114
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: just stuck in there. Did anybody make a really comment

1115
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: you afterward? Like, hey man, you want to get some

1116
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: dinner to night? Can you Some guys like hey, can

1117
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: you open this here out there? Can open this spirit

1118
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: for me? But yeah, you want you want some teeth adjustment,

1119
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: my friend, come play some home all right, I can

1120
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: do that. I can't do that, but it'll be good

1121
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: for my mouth, I suppose. I mean, I uh, you

1122
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: know when I started losing my hair, and when I

1123
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: was like, I wasn't thrilled about it, but then uh,

1124
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: it came to a point where it's like it's seen. Obviously,

1125
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot more common now. And once I

1126
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: think I shaved it and just went with it, I

1127
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: was fine. So that doesn't bother me anymore. But if

1128
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't keep myself. Like right now, I'm trying to

1129
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: get back in the shape. But if I don't keep

1130
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: myself in shape, the last place that that fixes itself

1131
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: on my body if I'm working out is like my

1132
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: side and my gut, my stomach. So if someone walks

1133
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: up and hey, man, what's up and they hit you

1134
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: on the side, I automatically I'll miss the next sentence

1135
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: that they say because I'm all I'm thinking about is

1136
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: oh man, they hit my side. It's not like where

1137
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be. So I feel that though, like

1138
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: if I don't. If I if I'm on vacation for

1139
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: like a week, because I'm used to training like seven

1140
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: days a week, and if I'm on vacation for like

1141
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: a week, I feel soft and I hate it. Just

1142
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: it's the grossest feeling to feel soft, which I don't like. Um,

1143
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: So I get back train hard and I noticed a

1144
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: change in my body too. You just feel a little softer.

1145
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: It just looks a little different. But also for me,

1146
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: it's um upper body. I'm a legs in My sport

1147
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: is a legs and lung sport, but that's what you

1148
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: train an explosive single leg power to be a hockey

1149
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: player lungs to skate all day and you don't spend

1150
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time on upper body. So in relation

1151
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: to my legs, my upper body are is small um

1152
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: and weak compared to my in relation to my leg strength.

1153
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: So for me, I'd like to develop more upper body.

1154
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a very big upper body

1155
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: my self consci I think that's a half for oh

1156
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: the half horse at the center? What did you call it?

1157
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: A menatort cent centaur? I hit you on the side earlier,

1158
01:01:52,000 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: sprain through things, impose your head. I love the Brooks,

1159
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: just that the Brookshire works out like what eighteen at

1160
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day goes. Yeah, when I go

1161
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: on vacation, I get soft. It's like for what it's just.

1162
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're so like honestly as an athlete,

1163
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: you're so in tune with But I don't know, maybe

1164
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: it happens to what do you got? You gotta there?

1165
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: I got a minute tour? This guy's going off the

1166
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: cliff here? Can I see what you're you're talking about? This?

1167
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: What do you call the is that the one center?

1168
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't see how either of these I don't okay, Well,

1169
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, that is Brooks. That's Brooks on vacations.

1170
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Can we post on our Instagram a picture of a

1171
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: centaur with Brooks's face? Oh, I'm sure if somebody in

1172
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: our community will do it. Oh God, here they come.

1173
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: I just want to be honest here. Um. You know,

1174
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: I we just shared a little bit about what we

1175
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: were self conscious about, and you know, obviously working out

1176
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: and doing physical exercise. You know, we were talking about

1177
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: my chin and being forty five and chins. Excuse me,

1178
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: thank you Ryan. Um. But what I wanted to know

1179
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: really from you guys and some of our listeners was

1180
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: what motivates you to to get to the gym, be

1181
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: on time, get there every time, you know, work your

1182
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: upper body Brooks? Um, you know what is the motivating

1183
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: factor when you've already played a sport, when you already

1184
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: have the kids and you're you're already out on too.

1185
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, you come back from a from a concert

1186
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: or whatnot, Gavin, you know, are you gonna go work

1187
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: out afterwards or you're gonna work out the next morning

1188
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: or you know? Right, So I'm curious to know what

1189
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: the motivating factors are to do to to do that

1190
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: I that's probably the question I get asked the most

1191
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: in my life is how do you stay motivated and

1192
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: what motivates you? Um? Honestly, for me, it's well, it's

1193
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: been about athletics. My whole life was about Okay, I

1194
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: want to become the best hockey player I possibly can be.

1195
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: That that was my whole goal. So I trained sports

1196
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: specific What in the gym directly translates to on ice peak,

1197
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: on ice performance. That was my motivating factor for thirty

1198
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: some years. Um. Now it's about I want to compete

1199
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: in CrossFit. But um so that's why I'm working on

1200
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: other things that are not sports specifically developing more upper

1201
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: body power. Um. But for me, if I don't work out,

1202
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: if I don't train like my I turned my whole

1203
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: you guys probably seen on my Instagram if you follow me,

1204
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: my whole garage is a gym. It's my home Jim Heaven, um,

1205
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: and I'll train. I'll bounce back and forth in and

1206
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: out of that from eight to five every day. Um.

1207
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: I have a workout app, open gym training programs if

1208
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: you guys wanna, if you need something to train at

1209
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: home or at your gym. Um, this is my passion

1210
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: in life. This is something that fulfills me. And honestly,

1211
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: my head would blow off if I didn't train in

1212
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: a day or two days. Like, I just have so

1213
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: much energy I need to get out, and I think

1214
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: if I didn't do that, It's one it's fulfilling for me.

1215
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: I can do it by myself for four or five

1216
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: six hours. You can probably sing or write or like

1217
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: music by yourself all day, right, So this is fulfilling

1218
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: for me. So it's it's sort of a gift in

1219
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: that regard um. But also I think I would go

1220
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: crazy if I didn't get that energy out. I think

1221
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: my wife would probably divorce me in a week if

1222
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to work out like for me right now.

1223
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I was doing waterpool for a long time,

1224
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: and they're a couple of years ago. I was training

1225
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: pretty hard for a World Championship thing and Hungary and

1226
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: and we went and did all that, and ever since then,

1227
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: I've just been and we remodeled our house or whatnot.

1228
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: But I've just been very kind of stagnant and just been,

1229
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, and almost enjoying it to the fact where

1230
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I don't have to do

1231
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: that today? Like cool, Like I'm gonna stay home and

1232
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: enjoy my coffee or whatever, not go to the gym

1233
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: at six o'clock or go swim at five am. Um.

1234
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: And now what I'm really struggling with is getting on

1235
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: that horse, and without forcing myself, I think I can

1236
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: help you here. So and for our listeners too, because

1237
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: this is so if if working what would on a

1238
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, what would working out or

1239
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: right now be to you? A three? Four? Like how

1240
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: excited would you be to do it? Or like what

1241
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: would so you're three? So a lot of a lot

1242
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: of people listening to this probably are a three. So my,

1243
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: how we how do we get this? Because if something's

1244
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: attend to you, you're like, I want to do that.

1245
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: That's so attractive, that's so that's so much fun to me.

1246
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: So if training for you right now is a three, well,

1247
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: if we add great music, that might make it a four.

1248
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: If you do it outside in the sun here in California,

1249
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: might be a five or six. If you do it

1250
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: with a good friend, might be a seven. If the

1251
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: gym is really close to your house, maybe that's an eight.

1252
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: If you put a challenge to it, Hey, I'm gonna do.

1253
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: I want to be able to do a five k

1254
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: or a half marathon by July or August. Well, now

1255
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: you have a purpose to it, and you're like, I'm

1256
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna raise money. Can can you sponsor me to do this?

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Speaker 1: Now you have a purpose. Now maybe there's a motivation

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Speaker 1: outside of yourself. Now maybe it's a nine or a

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Speaker 1: ten and you're like, damn right, I'm going to do this.

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Speaker 1: Could be you want to be healthy, you want to

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Speaker 1: live to your ninety years old, to be around for

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Speaker 1: your grandkids. That could be a motivation. But there's many

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Speaker 1: ways to turn it from a three to a ten,

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Speaker 1: and I would look at some of those ways for

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Speaker 1: our listeners. What are those ways in your life? Who

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Speaker 1: are those people in your life that can help elevate

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Speaker 1: it so that it's something that you gravitate towards versus

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Speaker 1: something you resist against. Tell you a funny story about

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Speaker 1: working out in good music. So I try and work

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Speaker 1: out as much as i can, because one, I get

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Speaker 1: embarrassed if I'm out of shape. But also what you

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Speaker 1: were saying earlier books for for me, part of what

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Speaker 1: I do is about quick thinking and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm out of shape and stuff I have.

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Speaker 1: My I just get sluggish and my thinking slows down,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it doesn't work. So I started working out.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there, I want to try and

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Speaker 1: work out every day, and I can't do. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a time between work and the kids and everything

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Speaker 1: to do so much every day. So I bought one

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Speaker 1: of those Peloton bikes, and I was like, at the

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Speaker 1: very least, I'll do a ride every day, which I

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Speaker 1: did last night before we left to come here. I

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Speaker 1: hadn't done it yet. So I did a ride at

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Speaker 1: like ten o'clock at night, and I got up and

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Speaker 1: I had to catch a flight this morning. But I

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Speaker 1: did a ride this morning. But as I was riding

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Speaker 1: this morning, I'm doing this thing, it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get up to Oakland. And so I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you know Peloton. There's a screen there and

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Speaker 1: it's almost like you're in a live class and the

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Speaker 1: instructors talking and stuff like that. Sometimes they are alive too,

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Speaker 1: but instructors like, all right, this next one's really gonna

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Speaker 1: knock your socks off. She goes. I just love Gavin

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Speaker 1: Degra's voice. Yeah, And so listen if this isn't a sign,

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Speaker 1: that's the part where I would have turned that screen off. Dude.

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Speaker 1: This has been another This has been a powerful episode.

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Speaker 1: I think this is our best episode. This is one

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Speaker 1: of the top two episodes. That's one of the top

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Speaker 1: two we've ever done, certainly the most recent one. Um

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Speaker 1: but gavic Well said, I'm about at jokes, buddy, just

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Speaker 1: wrap us, get me up, great man. Hey, well, listen, fellas.

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Speaker 1: It's an honorably here to be honest with you. After

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Speaker 1: meeting you, guys, I walked in. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: gonna suck, but she surprised me, so thanks for having me. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's Brooks and one last thing before you take off.

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Speaker 1: We want to know your thoughts, feedback, insights, and questions

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Speaker 1: for us on this show. Send us an email at

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Speaker 1: men at I Heart radio dot com and follow along

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Speaker 1: with us on Instagram at how Men Think podcast and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you back right here next week for the

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Speaker 1: next episode.