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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has its swagger back. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with some familiar heroes, Mark Sessler, Christoff Wesling,

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Speaker 1: and the great Greg Rostal. What's up boys? Hey Dan?

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Speaker 1: Why did you uh make my name French? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just felt right. I like that. That sticks Christoff

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Speaker 1: maybe German? Now that's that's definitely French. Uh. Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: welcome back from Chicago after a a long week about

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Speaker 1: and uh we of course had you on on the

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Speaker 1: phone on Saturday night after the end of the two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen NFL Draft, but it's not the same. Get

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Speaker 1: west back in the studio, Welcome home. It's great to

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Speaker 1: be back. That's all right, that's today's podcast, so we

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Speaker 1: will be back. Uh yeah, how is the flight back?

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Speaker 1: Any any stories you want to share with us right now?

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Speaker 1: How you to nobody? The flight back was pretty uneventful. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's all I got. I mean one thing, a good

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Speaker 1: change of pace for for you with the uneventful travel.

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Speaker 1: Good Westling came in like a house on fire. While

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Speaker 1: Connor was here last week sitting in West's chair, occupying

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Speaker 1: Chris's workspace, Wesley found all these things about what Connor

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Speaker 1: had done that he didn't like. A napkins supply of

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Speaker 1: because we lunch at our desks and it was down

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Speaker 1: to like two napkins. It wasn't replenished, and I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a little bad house guest, A little like

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Speaker 1: that from Connor. There was an extra remote at my desk.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of papers. Oh yeah, what a jerk.

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Speaker 1: He left you extra remote controls. I wish extra one

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Speaker 1: showed up wherever I went. It would be fun life. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just getting Connor. We took great care of my

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Speaker 1: personal face. You said to be a fun life. Extra

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Speaker 1: remote control everywhere, totally redundant technology. That's what I want. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Your beard is thickening. Yeah, I'll have to shave it.

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Speaker 1: We have an NFL Now segment tomorrow that we have.

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Speaker 1: It's been about a week. What about these high octane

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Speaker 1: meetings that you have to attend and they don't care

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Speaker 1: if you shave or not. No one said anything, at

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Speaker 1: least not to you. Yeah, you need a young cherub

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Speaker 1: boy with a straight edge razor and powder going across.

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Speaker 1: What do they do that in the makeup? That's next,

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Speaker 1: that's the next time coming. Sorry, it will be in

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Speaker 1: one of those chairs that are tilted back. It'll be

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Speaker 1: like three cherub boys. He's always wandering up and down

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Speaker 1: the hallway with like trumpeteers, small seven and eight year

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Speaker 1: old trumpet hears announcing his arrival and departure. Not cheap,

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Speaker 1: by the way. So Greg, that's Greg on the throne

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Speaker 1: of ease as always looking a little scruffy, a little sexy.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Big show, big show today. As we now,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we were talking Greg yesterday about how

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Speaker 1: those two post draft shows we we hit a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff. But it would be good to basically hit

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Speaker 1: every team now this week and talk about where these

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Speaker 1: the next two shows, every team in the NFL. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit, uh, starting with the a f C. In

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Speaker 1: C and forty eight minutes which Oh my god, that

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Speaker 1: sounds exciting. Uh t D. We're gonna need some type

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Speaker 1: of excitement music around that, maybe some blockbuster uh celebration

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Speaker 1: for what seems to be a major event on the podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through each of the sixteen teams in

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Speaker 1: the a f C exactly three minutes each, uh and

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Speaker 1: I guess something for you guys to go little something.

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Speaker 1: back to the Jersey Shore and the clubs like they have,

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Speaker 1: like the they used to have, like the the fog

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Speaker 1: is back. What's going on? Guys? You handled that well?

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Speaker 1: You're a pretty woman too, TD. No, No, it's all good.

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Speaker 1: resign player A, we have to draft his replacement. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't quite buy it either. To me, maybe he's

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Speaker 1: more of a replacement for Snacks Harrison. And then you

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Speaker 1: have Wilkerson, Williams and Richardson right next to year quick

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Speaker 1: one quick point, Chris, we make too much out of

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Speaker 1: starting lineups. All every team in the NFL uses a

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Speaker 1: rotation at defensive line. Chris Westling the Buffalo Bills starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback Tyrod Taylor aside, do the Bills have the strongest

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Speaker 1: roster in the entire AFC? WHOA and the draft really

432
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Speaker 1: helped you clinch that? Or just generally, well, they got it.

433
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Speaker 1: They got stronger at cornerback, they picked up a guard. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean they've got we already think they have one

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Speaker 1: of the strongest front sevens. Then they pick up Percy

436
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Speaker 1: Harvins to go with Sammy Watkins and Charles Clay and

437
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: wildly your boy Robert Woods wildly deep at running back

438
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Speaker 1: to just because I barely watched any college football, I

439
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 1: was always surprised that Carlos Williams from Florida State was

440
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Speaker 1: not thought of highly because he just looked like an

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Speaker 1: NFL back and he's a deep guy too. It's an

442
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Speaker 1: awesome roster I think. Also, you know, we asked this

443
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Speaker 1: question about the Bills last year, like outside the corner

444
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Speaker 1: quarterback situation, are they a playoff team? And even then

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Speaker 1: I thought potentially, And they went out and won a

446
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Speaker 1: bunch of games last year with a milk toast, you know, offense.

447
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Speaker 1: But now you've added Rex Ryan too, and you've got

448
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Speaker 1: Greg Roman. I think the entire coaching staff has their

449
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Speaker 1: head on straight. There were issues with last year's coach

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Speaker 1: and GM from the start, and I think that undermined

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Speaker 1: a lot of what was going on. So, yes, the Bills,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Dan put the Jets number two

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Speaker 1: in the afcast. I don't know about that, just the

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Speaker 1: order that we did, I don't know. I don't want

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Speaker 1: you guys got cooking, are not These are not power

456
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Speaker 1: rankings as well. Let me make that clear. Yeah, I

457
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Speaker 1: don't want to be the guy because I hate when

458
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Speaker 1: people say about the Jets, oh, but you have new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: F you. But they don't have a quarterback still, so

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Speaker 1: it's like f you. Well that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: this feels like a trend in the NFL right now.

462
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Speaker 1: Everybody points to the Seahawks and says, look, with a

463
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Speaker 1: strong running game and a great defense, you can win

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Jets, Bills, Rams, Browns are they're all

465
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Speaker 1: trying there, right, but they don't have they don't lynch.

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Speaker 1: These teams are all test cases. How far can you

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Speaker 1: go with your tyro Let's say, let's say what West

468
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Speaker 1: is throwing out there. Let's say they do have there's

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Speaker 1: some way to compute this and they actually have the

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Speaker 1: best roster in the a f C. And then Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal's boy, Matt Castle, it turns into it turns back

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Speaker 1: the clock and he has that if he can beat

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Speaker 1: two thousand eight Patriots season or that one good Chief season,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a division contender if he If they

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Speaker 1: get decent play out of quarterback, I I think they're

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. Probably be putting them in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you know when we when make those things. The draft,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, it wasn't a spicy draft for them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where the starters are in

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Speaker 1: this draft. They drafted Ronald Darby in the second round.

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Speaker 1: He's probably maybe their third cornerback, and they drafted a guard,

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Speaker 1: John Miller. So really this was a draft that Sammy

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Speaker 1: Watkins was kind of the main guy they unless they

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Speaker 1: get their first round pick back with l Collins. Maybe

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Speaker 1: BELI that's a great chunkie. Maybe Bill Belichick looked around

486
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Speaker 1: the division and said, oh yeah, we don't need cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: There's ain't no one throwing the ball, and you have

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Speaker 1: ceased outside of New England. It's it's interesting because they

489
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Speaker 1: did draft a couple of guards. It's amazing how good

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Speaker 1: the defensive lines are. They're trying to protect Brady. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you're maybe you're right. You build a bully. Got Richie

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Speaker 1: Incognito in town. Everybody's really excited. That was hopefully they

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Speaker 1: drafted their replace for Richie Incognito. They mark Cecil that

494
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, well, the Dolphins are a team that there's

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Speaker 1: talent there as well, But I look at the organization.

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Speaker 1: Who wonder there? The the front office is all wacky

497
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Speaker 1: because tennant bomb seems much more powerful than the actual

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Speaker 1: general manager. And Philbin feels like an absolute lame duck

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Speaker 1: coach to me. But instead, you know, Bill As are

500
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Speaker 1: sitting there running the offense. That's my boy. And I

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Speaker 1: like what they did in the draft. Number one. They

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Speaker 1: went out after trading away Mike Wallace, a total headcase.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Parker, I think, is a first week starter right

504
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Speaker 1: there and might end up being the best rookie wide

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Speaker 1: Receiver's right, and that that mix and guys like you

506
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, You don't have to rely necessarily

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Speaker 1: on Greg Jennings doing anything. If even makes the team,

508
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Speaker 1: guy like Kenny Stills gets pushed down the depth chart,

509
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Speaker 1: and they needed to improve the passing game for sure.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's that's that's my starting point is

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Speaker 1: I didn't knew, you know, Miami is serious about giving

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tanne Hills and weapons. They went out and got

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Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron as well and changing what was a pretty

514
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Speaker 1: boring passing game two years ago got a little bit

515
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Speaker 1: better last year. I think Kenny Stills are Greg Jennings

516
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Speaker 1: are fighting for a spot and you would not totally

517
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Speaker 1: sure if Greg Jennings is gonna make this team. Not

518
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Speaker 1: now do you need Greg Jennings as a fourth thing?

519
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Speaker 1: They give him four million guaranteed? Was it all guarantee?

520
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Speaker 1: Did him if he maybe they're splitting the slap snaps

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Speaker 1: up Jarvis Landry. They do have a lot of people

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Speaker 1: to throw to though that weren't there last year. Stills, Parker,

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Speaker 1: uh and Cameron. The other thing, you know, I look

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Speaker 1: at Lamar Miller and I think that's a team that

525
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Speaker 1: wants to run the ball as well. And he was

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Speaker 1: what his first thousand yard season last year. But then

527
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Speaker 1: they go out, Yeah, I thought it was good, but

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Speaker 1: they go out and get stronger. They draft j A

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Speaker 1: Gys That how you saying, which a lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought was going to go in the second I was

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Speaker 1: a Steel in the fifth round. So I think that

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of emphasis after you know, getting

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Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue on defense. I think they really want

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Speaker 1: to see if they can be this you know, Bill

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Speaker 1: Laser Eagles esque offense. It's it's going to translate or not.

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Speaker 1: They'll live to regret the Sioux contract. Let's face it,

537
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Speaker 1: they gave too much money that guy. But the way

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Speaker 1: this roster is set up right now with Sue in

539
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Speaker 1: his prime and if Tannehill get takes the next step,

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Speaker 1: this is a great division to track. It's so you

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Speaker 1: can make a real case for every team in the

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Speaker 1: division to win. So I think they came out of

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Speaker 1: both free agency and the draft in a very good

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Speaker 1: spot to contend. Personally, g I is someone to watch

545
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Speaker 1: because just from the sound of it, he sounded like

546
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Speaker 1: a guy who could have been the third running back

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Speaker 1: off the board here. And then he has a foot injury,

548
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Speaker 1: and so that totally crushed him. And I think teams

549
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: sometimes over react to the short term injury thing because

550
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Speaker 1: this is a four year contract with the guy that

551
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Speaker 1: could be a big factor this and I think if

552
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Speaker 1: you watched them earlier last year, they wanted no Sean

553
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Speaker 1: Marino to be that guy. Lamar Miller for for all

554
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Speaker 1: the you know, impressive see. And he's not a power back,

555
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: and like Tannehill, he definitely benefited from a gimmick offense.

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Speaker 1: I like Miller, but he's not to me like a

557
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Speaker 1: three down running back. He's a PreTect committee back that

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Speaker 1: you keep in the mix. By the way, just to

559
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Speaker 1: prove to you guys that this is not a power

560
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Speaker 1: rings by any any stretch. Let's move on to the

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Speaker 1: a f C North Whoa, And we'll start with the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who uh, you know, I liked what they did.

563
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Speaker 1: We talked about meat and potatoes draft for the Browns,

564
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Speaker 1: not a lot of sizzle, but just try to get better,

565
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Speaker 1: make their roster better. But here's what I really liked

566
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Speaker 1: is after all the all the talk of Johnny Manzel,

567
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Speaker 1: than them being basically they're moving on. They don't want

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Speaker 1: anything to do with him. They're giving up. That's not

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Speaker 1: how the draft played out, because they didn't draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe they wanted Bryce Petty and the Jets

571
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Speaker 1: moved up a spot to maybe get him. So the

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Speaker 1: Brown's gonna get him first. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, Manzelle is still uh to me in the

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Speaker 1: mix uh. And if Josh McCown can't get the job

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Speaker 1: done and the Manzell keeps his head on straight, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get another shot at this. And I think he

577
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Speaker 1: deserves another shot at this. I think maybe deserves a

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Speaker 1: strong word, but he They the Browns should have him

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Speaker 1: get another shot at this because they invested so highly

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Speaker 1: in him. So when the when the two thousand fifteen

581
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Speaker 1: seasons over, I think Manzela is going to get some starts,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing. I think they

583
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Speaker 1: need to see this through good or bad. I think

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Speaker 1: it's for me, you know, I would want to see

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Speaker 1: them give him a larger leash than seven quarters when

586
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: you know clearly his life was in trouble back then.

587
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: That's It's gonna depend on who he is off the field,

588
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: how hard he works. The biggest issue that red light

589
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: for me was number one. Physically. He did not look

590
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: like an NFL quarterback on the field last year and

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Speaker 1: it's week twelve week their team, and everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: see how great Kyle Shanahan is. But there is some

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Speaker 1: responsibility of a coaching staff to know that your players

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Speaker 1: by week twelve week their team know the playbook, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't at all, So there's got to be more

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Speaker 1: accountability with him from the start. But the Browns, it's

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Speaker 1: just like West mentioned, they're one of these teams that

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Speaker 1: are doing all they can to increase where they can

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Speaker 1: be strong and make a difference while you still have

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Speaker 1: a hole at the quarterback. About it, Patting on Monday

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00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: said in the interview, we're gonna we're doing as much

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Speaker 1: as we can to minimize the quarterback position. He used

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: those words sounds sounds dangerous to me, and they were

604
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: really getting a note straight out of the Rex Ryan handbook.

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00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: But he's like saying it minimize. And he was getting

606
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Speaker 1: really annoyed with all the questions about quarterback when he

607
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, you know, the five picks they

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Speaker 1: had in the first three rounds. If you're hiding your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're admitting a weakness. I mean, a weakness is debilitating

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Speaker 1: and it's like, well, it is a weakness, but also

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Speaker 1: the reality is fans like, why didn't you go get

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Speaker 1: this guy? Well, it was the worst off season in

613
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: a while to get any sort of free agent quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And they did try to trade for Sam Bradford. They

615
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: did try to trade up to get Mariota and those things.

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Speaker 1: That's expensive, and that didn't work. They weren't just sitting

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Speaker 1: pat but it didn't happen. The way criticize the Browns much,

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Speaker 1: I know you're sent sensitive to that, and I have

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Speaker 1: nothing to criticize. For one thing, I think they can

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00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: take a little bit of a fair criticism. They like

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Speaker 1: throwing these little nuggets out there, like the Bradford and

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00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: the Mary out to interest to pacify the fans and

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Speaker 1: make everyone feel like, oh, they're really trying to do

624
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the right thing, But then they don't do it. They

625
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: do seem to me, they come off as a reactionary franchise,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I liked that they stayed put a QB.

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Speaker 1: They have. They've showing the showing some patients and maybe

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00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: they maybe it pays off. I don't know why, but

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced Danny Shelton is going to be like the

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: defensive rookie of the year right in the mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we never really criticized the Browns on the air. Mark

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Speaker 1: completely scient silent there. Cincinnati Bengals Greg Rosen. I love

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Speaker 1: the horn, by the way, and I love the way

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Speaker 1: that the Bengals listen to Andrew where dare them to

635
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Speaker 1: take a tackle? Dare you to replace me? And in

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Speaker 1: the most Mike Brown move ever, of course, he took

637
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Speaker 1: him up on it. Takes Cedric Aboo in the first round.

638
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: This is a guy, by the way, someone had number

639
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: one overall pick in a September or October mock last year,

640
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: so that's he was in the second round too. And

641
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: then the second round they do it again. I mean

642
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: to be isn't forget you all your great service? Andre

643
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: went with forget that you were the best past protecting

644
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: left tackle in the league last year. We're gonna bang

645
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: you publicly and humiliate you. And and I'm wondering, you

646
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: know they've invested a lot in these two tackles, don't

647
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't this seem like the most Mike Brown thing ever? Vindictive?

648
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: A little bit? It does. I'm not sure Mike Brown's

649
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: really running the personnel department anymore. But Whitworth, like you

650
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: guys said, I mean, a heck of a player and

651
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: the closest thing they have to a true team leader

652
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: and one of the best dudes in the NFL. So yeah,

653
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: you're really hang Yeah, it's weird because they have their

654
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: tackles are among the best tackle tandems in the league,

655
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Andre Smith and Andrew Whitworth and Andre Smiths not coming

656
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: off his best year and what Worth's older. But they

657
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: really drafted depth here in the first couple of rounds.

658
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Not a spicy draft for this Incinnati bang. Well, it's

659
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: another team where you've got an issue at quarterback and

660
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson wants to run the ball, and I think

661
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: they unearthed the great number one running back and hill

662
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: last year, and so keep getting deeper along the offensive line.

663
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that because some of these guys,

664
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can move him inside, do certain things

665
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: with him if you really need to. But you know,

666
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: keeping around left tackles, keeping that position strong, I know

667
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: a problem at all. So they have better team now

668
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: than they were last year. I mean, I guess getting

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00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: healthy will make them better. All the guys they had injured,

670
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: but by far The biggest issue last year was they

671
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: had the worst pass rush in the NFL and they

672
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: didn't draft the pass run that's your drafted two backup tackles, right.

673
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: And their third round pick Paul Dawson got a lot

674
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: of love from t TCU as kind of that heady,

675
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: really productive inside linebacker that falls too far in the

676
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: draft because he's not, you know, blowing up. You know,

677
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: he had a very very slow but again a guy

678
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: who's going to ride the pine as a rookie. Bengals

679
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: have now two tight ends named Tyler. I call it

680
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: a red flag. The third round pick, Tyler Kroft. This

681
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: is you know, it's not really a sexy pick the

682
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: picking houses. According to Mike Mack on our draft page,

683
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Croft is one of the real solid guys who has

684
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: the draft process moved on gained more steam. They also

685
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: drafted the guy from USC that jumped out of the

686
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: window and then said he saved to save his drowning.

687
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: That guy he went in, Josh, you know, it's nice

688
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: to see him land on his feet. Who oh wow,

689
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: we should have stopped the podcast. School will never get

690
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: that you stay. That line was I'm embarrassed. I think

691
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: we just need to move on because Chris Leslie. Let's

692
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: talk a little Baltimore Ravens. Well, we know they lost

693
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Tory Smith, Owen Daniels, and Bernard Pearce. In the off season,

694
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: they go and draft replacements for each one of those guys,

695
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Bernard Perriman or Bishop Perriman. I'm sorry, Max Williams, known

696
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: as the best tight end in the draft, and Javorious Allen.

697
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: So they've replaced those guys. But we also see that

698
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: sometimes relying on rookies you get left empty handed a

699
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: little bit. Should the Ravens be considered the favorites in

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00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: the division now that they have place those guys, well,

701
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean they have to work out. But you know,

702
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of what I would say about Pittsburgh to Baltimore

703
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't get cute after a lot of wind about we

704
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: love our young wide receiving group and in fact, hey,

705
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: we don't even know if we need to draft a

706
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: tight end. We're just so happy with all our young

707
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: players to go out and do both. And that's what

708
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: they shore. Yeah, and they took two tight ends. They

709
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: took a guy in the fifth round, uh, Nick Boyle,

710
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: who a lot of people liked, a guy from Delaware.

711
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: How about the Delaware factory going into Baltimore. I mean,

712
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: they just wanted someone to hang out with Flaco because

713
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: they know they're gonna cut his best friend, Denis Pitta

714
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: or his career. I like, Greg just wanted to talk

715
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: about Delaware. Oh that's rock band. That tells me their

716
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: scouting department can't go more than a state over to

717
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: fend players. Lazy. Harbaugh talked about it that this was

718
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: a draft where there the need happened to meet up

719
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: with their board perfectly. Well, that's come on. Everyone always

720
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: says that I would like to a coach or GM

721
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: to come on, say, like the need never met up

722
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: with our board. We got desperate over. I don't think

723
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens are the favorite. To answer your question, why

724
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: are they? Why would they have fewer spots than any

725
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: other than Pittsburgh. Yeah, Pittsburgh has I mean what's going

726
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: on in their secondary Well we can discuss that in

727
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: a minute. Let's not steal my fire entirely. Well, I

728
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: think I think Pittsburgh would be the favorite to me

729
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: because they have the best quarterback and they have the

730
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: best strength, which is that often that offense is so good.

731
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Speaker 1: It's the one thing I know in the division is

732
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: gonna be great. I think I think it's gonna be great,

733
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'm not totally sure about anything else.

734
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: So isn't the Ravens defense just as good as the

735
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: Steeler's offense? I don't know, big bend's the difference to me?

736
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: But uh, I think every year what was told is

737
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: that these teams just flip the right. There the Ravens

738
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Speaker 1: Twitter few. It also tells us hashtag and Aussie we trust,

739
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: so we do give them the better the down. That's

740
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: why this is another hard division to figure out. But

741
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens is gonna win between nine and

742
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: a half and ten and a half games comes down probably, Yeah,

743
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: I think it's ten and six like every year to me.

744
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: So that's where we're gonna end up deadly accurate in

745
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: my book. Oh yeah, well book it. What do you

746
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: guys think of the double X at the end of

747
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Max Williams Though I like it memorable, that's true. It's similar.

748
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: It's like making your Mountain de red. You should almost

749
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: go with a nut. You know, they should go with

750
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: another X if you're going to go that far. Did

751
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: you do any research on footprints in the sand joke

752
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: Greg passed along there that wasn't supposed to be a joke.

753
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: Does that make him never mind? All right, footprints in

754
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: the sand. I'm not a Bible reader, so it wasn't

755
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: in the Bible. We gathered that it's not inside that

756
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: book mark's aslayer the ball. The Pittsburgh Steelers, well, you know,

757
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: the Steelers, some of these smoke screens that are thrown

758
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: around before the draft or mind boggling in their tedious

759
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: and Steelers are like, we're secure enough to not throw

760
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: that your way. If they said over and over, we

761
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: have a couple of needs. We've got a need in

762
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: the secondary and we have a needed outsideline backer. The

763
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: GM said, this is one of the best class we've

764
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: seen for pass rushers, and that's probably what we're gonna

765
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: go do. And that's exactly what they did. Like undrafted budget,

766
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: I like that you tie smoke screens back to security

767
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: and insecurity that well, I think the Steelers don't have to,

768
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, take you down a million different pathways that

769
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: this is what we like, this is what we need,

770
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think Pittsburgh had enough picks

771
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: to go out and address correctly with value and where

772
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: they were all the issues going on with their defense.

773
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: Because Troy Paulamal is gone. You know, people can say

774
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: Ike Taylor has gone. That may be additioned by subtraction.

775
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: I know he's a friend of Damna Check, but his

776
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: career was on the way out. And that's just they

777
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: need to get younger. And they've gone out and they've

778
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: done what they can't. I thought they did a good

779
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: job in the first round, but it's more about one

780
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: of the young players going to do In Pittsburgh. There's

781
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of leaders and and and you know proven

782
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: dudes walking out the door. I think you hit the

783
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: nail on the head there. All these picks they've they've

784
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: invested Ryan Chisier, Jarvis Jones, now Bud Duprie, and a

785
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: guy like Shamarco Tom Miss who was a mid round

786
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: pick a few years and has been their force safety

787
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: instead of their guy coming off the bench. Too. They've

788
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: had Will Allen playing over him. So all these draft

789
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: picks have to pan out. They you know, they got

790
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Stephen to it. They drafted last year in the second round.

791
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: These guys need to be what they projected them to

792
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: be or else they're not gonna win the division. Jervis

793
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Jones has been a bust so far for two years.

794
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: You haven't gotten really anything out of him. He's not

795
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: on the field that much in the playoff games, and

796
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: so you draft dupre who in theory is a competition

797
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: for him, or maybe he'll be starting with him. The

798
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: fact that they brought back James Harrison at all is

799
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: a sign that they knew they had problems there. And

800
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: I know they didn't focus on offense and they didn't

801
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: need to, but it is interesting reading some of the

802
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: stuff that came out of the draft that they absolutely

803
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: seemed to love Sammy Coates the wide receiver they got,

804
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: and he may not have a big chance to play,

805
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: and he had to drops issues in college, but they

806
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: called him a first round talent. It's a big time

807
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: pick a third round pick on a receiver when you're

808
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: a wildly deep at receiver. I mean, he got the

809
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: t o comparisons because he's just the physic a called

810
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: monster that just can't catch the ball. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: the Draft Knicks I was like, what, I'm going to

812
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. The Draft Knicks love this. The

813
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: late round picks here, I heard a lot of praise

814
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: for Dorin Grant that when people were scouting Bradley Roby,

815
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: the Grant outplayed him, Anthony Tequilo and and Grod Holloman.

816
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: All the draft knicks loved all those. Well, I don't

817
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: know about you, but I think sen Quez Golson is

818
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: going to just change the entire division. Well not if

819
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you watch that game. He fell out. He's not even

820
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: he's the second round pick. And I don't know anything

821
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: about you. Sorry, sick. We move on to the a

822
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: f C South. Have time to say something in smoke screen? Yeah,

823
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: go ahead. Just like how some blogs keep sites keep

824
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: track of like bock drafts and who got it right,

825
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: who got it wrong, we should keep track of like

826
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: team in their smoke screen. Well yeah, yeah, we're two

827
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: different articles on our site dedicated to that dynamics. So

828
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: good calling your part. So we didn't go after one

829
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: of the two things. Mark clearly piste off about the

830
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns factor of set in his trap. You know,

831
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: take it out all right, Here we go the Indianapolis Colts,

832
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: the defending AFC South champions. They added another talented wide

833
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: receiver and Philip door Set. We talked about him, on Saturday. Uh,

834
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: but I I'm I'm not one that's in on that pick.

835
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: I think Steam had what double fifty Burgers dropped on

836
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: it in the last two playoffs. And uh, you add

837
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at the top of the draft, go

838
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: beat get get a little more physical on your get

839
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: better on your defensive line, get more protection upfront, maybe

840
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: get somebody in the back end. But a wide receiver.

841
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a pick. I know, it's like

842
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: pick the best guy on your board, but maybe that's

843
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: not always the right move. The Colts to me feel

844
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: like one of these teams that is doing everything they

845
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: can to beat one team, and that's the New England Patriots. Yeah,

846
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna play them again in the playoffs if it's

847
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: gonna you know, the if the roadmap is what we expect,

848
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: and I actually do like that. You gotta be careful

849
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: with that though, because yeah, that's how it's been. But

850
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the conference is getting better. Mean it's reckless,

851
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: but it's something. Maybe they just obsessed with it, and

852
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: and that's what stands in between them and this super

853
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Bowl and they have you know, you go out and

854
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: get Andre Johnson, you add this draft pick. You've got

855
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: Frank Gore replacing Trent Richardson. That's obviously a massive upgrade

856
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: if they can get even one season or two out

857
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: of Gore. And I look at Indianapolis and they are

858
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: going for it, and maybe, yeah, they overlook some of

859
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: what would have been more meat and potatoes type situation

860
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: for them. But listen, they got to the n f

861
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: C Championship last year with one of the best quarterbacks

862
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna see in our lifetimes. So I like it.

863
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Unpopular pick among fans, unpopular pick among writers. And then

864
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: PFD at a report we were talking about Dan that

865
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: an unpopular pick among some of the cults, players who

866
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: didn't understand what was happening. What have you? Instead of

867
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: saying his position as wide receiver, what do you say

868
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: his position is Devin Hester because he's his return skills

869
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: are part of that's why they drafted him for his

870
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: first round pick. Well, he's gonna probably do again some

871
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: end a round, some slants, some deep routes, you know,

872
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: return guy, but return guy. I think it seems like

873
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: a luxury pick, though that still sounds if they pick

874
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: up Henry Anderson in the third round, who a lot

875
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: of people saw as the first round talent. And if

876
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: that guy's your big defensive tackle Hoss or defensive ant house,

877
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: maybe you killed two birds with one stone. I would

878
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: like to see in the NBC introductions them say, Philip

879
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: Dorset playing Devin Hester playing the Devon. That's a new

880
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: that's just a new thing. That would be the ultimate

881
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: honor to have a position named after you. Jim Mercy

882
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: comes out and says that the goal is to win

883
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: two championships in the Andrew Luck era, who caps the

884
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: number of titles you want to win. That feels a

885
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: little modest year, I think so well. It also to

886
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: me it seems strange, like so after the first one,

887
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: we were just halfway there. They can't get too excited

888
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: about It's another by the way, it's another shot of

889
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. That really is It does feel like a

890
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: shot at Peyton Manning was taking shots. It's like him

891
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: and Rank and Damna Shack at all times. Greg Rosenthal,

892
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: you were up next with what team? The Houston Texans?

893
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: And Uh, what really stuck out to me with the

894
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Texans is their first three picks, we're filling the biggest

895
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: needs on their team, really thin at cornerback, have a

896
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: two good starters, but absolutely no one after that, and

897
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: so they take what a lot of people thought were

898
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: was the safest cornerback in the draft, Kevin Johnson, who

899
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: can play his own defense with Romeo Cornell likes to do.

900
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: They have no one at inside linebacker really, and they

901
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: take Bernardrick McKenney, who people think can start right away.

902
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: He also has a little flexibility play on the outside.

903
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: And then they're also very thin at wide receiver. They

904
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: get a good value in Jalen Strong. So it's one

905
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: of those that they they really sort of checked the boxes.

906
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I think people should be happy with this Texans draft.

907
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: They've been looking for that inside linebacker next to Brian Cushing,

908
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: it seems like for over half a decade. Now, well

909
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: now they need the inside linebacker next to Brian Cushing,

910
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and they need the inside linebricker that's replacing Brian Cushing

911
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: because what's Brian and Brian Cushing's career at this point

912
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: is not something that we know is going to continue.

913
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: Other brothers. I'm just saying, we don't really know if

914
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there really long term. Some people think

915
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: they were gonna play McKinney outside, which they're also I

916
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: mean they're thin at that linebacker spot. I think regardless,

917
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: they just resigned Whitney Merciless, But I don't know. I

918
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: like this a lot of money for Whitney Merciless. By

919
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: the way, I like the strong picket wide receiver. I

920
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: mean they needed to upgrade that position. But again another

921
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: team like how much hope can you have in the

922
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: Texans with their quarterback situation. I like the move that

923
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: he immediately asked for number eleven because he was the

924
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: eleventh wide receiver drafted and he wants to remember every

925
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: day and all the teams that passed at him. That's

926
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: the Paul Pierce move. Pierce did the same thing. He's like,

927
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: I will have a big chip on my shoulders career.

928
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: He should call he should call himself the truth to

929
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: one of the great nicknames. I love it. This day

930
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: after the draft, there's like eighteen posts about players with

931
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: chips on their shoulders over it. Yeah yeah, well he

932
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the first one. Jimmy Jackson was the Truth former

933
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State star than Dallas Maverick. Are you doing, really,

934
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy the Truth Jackson? Yeah? Are you doing Okay. With

935
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Pierce Spurs out of the playoffs by it really decreases

936
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: my interest in the rest of the playoffs. But you know,

937
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: there was it was I think, arguably, I would argue

938
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: the greatest first round series in NBA history. Houston Texans fans,

939
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: they cannot get enough Texans information in this segment. They

940
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: will be I know, I was about to go into it.

941
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: How about that the Kembe Matumbo series when he was

942
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: the eight seed and they came. Yeah, that was a

943
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: good series. But I think these two teams were stronger.

944
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Booth Celtics a couple of years ago. That was great.

945
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: That was a good one. Now we're sorry Texas, Yeah

946
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: that was Texans are gonna get a lot of buzz.

947
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I think as a as a trendy sort of playoff

948
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: type of team. You think, yeah, I'm not going to

949
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: damn che loves him. It's a talented team. You should

950
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: have gone out and upgraded on Ryan Mountain, Brian Horror.

951
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: If you wanted us to talk about you, M well,

952
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: all that Ryan Maltuck. That's one thing I'm looking forward to.

953
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna see if that guy can actually play beause

954
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm sick of the Mallet crowd pumping that guy up

955
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: for no reason. Scheck dan one about a two and

956
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: fifty dollar dinner out of it. That's true, all right,

957
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Chris Westling up. Well, you've got the Tennessee Titans, which

958
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: you know now they have an identity, so the former

959
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: and once again Tennessee Titans. Yes, now they have Marcus

960
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: mariotatorial green Backham. They've got this great offensive not I

961
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know, not great, but they've got an intriguing young

962
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: offensive nucleus. How long until they seriously challenged the Cults

963
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: for the division title? Wow? I love that? How many

964
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: years over? Under two? It's so hard because we don't

965
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: know if he's any good. But if he's good, right,

966
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: if he becomes a top ten quarterback, and I don't

967
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: know what Ryan Grigson is doing in Indie down on

968
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: the Cults personally two years this Westling love affair, this

969
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: this west erection for the Tennessee Titans. It's one of

970
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: my favorite trends of the new season. I've been trying

971
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: to give them attention since I started at this company,

972
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: because you know, I have a protest against the fact

973
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: that the Jets sneeze and everyone writes like, can we

974
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: transcribe that sneeze? Then just super Bowl three champions? Uh?

975
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: One thing though, let's you know, Mariota number one, it's

976
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: not easy to come in and be successful as a rookie.

977
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: We're only three years removed from the Jaguars and the

978
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Titans drafting first round, top fifteen quarterbacks and saying three

979
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: years ago off season, now they're gonna come in and

980
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna challenge none of it. Were you one you

981
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: removed from the Jaguars drafting Blake Bortles, and nobody knows

982
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: who he is. I mean, nobody knows what he is.

983
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Not sure, I mean, I just it's gonna take time.

984
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: And if you're if you're Ken wizzen Hunt, I think

985
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: this bought you a longer lease as the coach. It

986
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: really did you. Next year he gives you a leasing.

987
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: He's got to prove that he can develop a young quarterback.

988
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: We can hand you Hall of famers and you can

989
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: get ten eleven wins, have a nice day. But this

990
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: is on him taking a quarterback that is not coming

991
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: from a pro ready system. That's why it's interesting to

992
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: watch from me and and prove that he can adapt

993
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: his offense you can question who got the credit for

994
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: adapting to Kurt Warner, is that Todd Haley was a

995
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Ken wizz and that they have a lot of weapons

996
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: hunter right, uh doroo Green Beckham. It is a fun

997
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: team we talked about on the show to watch. I

998
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: take it back, by the way, I initially agreed with

999
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: you that it's going to give him a longer leah.

1000
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: But if they have a bad season, I could see

1001
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: the that management saying whoa, whoa, wha, we gotta get

1002
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: out of this. Get somebody in tell or him exactly.

1003
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Aren't they up for sale? Yeah, well there's ownership issues.

1004
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's a lot in flux. Here's got

1005
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: to go out and show big progress. He's got it.

1006
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: But the thing you want to get excited about, and

1007
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe you can get excited about Blake Bortles too if

1008
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: you want, But uh, you want Andrew Luck to have

1009
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: a true rival in the division of quarterback. That's why

1010
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: this division is not going to be sexy until that happens.

1011
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: Maybe Mariota becomes that guy. It's a good point. Why

1012
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: did it, By the way, they took a fourth round fullback. Yeah,

1013
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: let's let's hold off with the fourth round fullback. I'm

1014
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: also I'm also a big fan of sixth round pick

1015
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: left outside linebacker Deantres Mount. I mean, that's one of

1016
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: those names. Give me something Mount, give me something on

1017
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: I just like his name outside linebacker. Finally, Mark Sessler,

1018
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: the jack endless stream of like untoward references by Greg

1019
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: in this podcast. What about the you know you're going

1020
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: at West about his body parts? That was that's fair?

1021
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: All right? Jars Jaguars, Well, all right, obviously we dropped

1022
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: him forth here because it's the Jaguars, but not power

1023
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: rank by the way. Okay, well, at some point you've

1024
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: got to have there's gotta be a tipping point for

1025
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: number one on defense. You went out and got your

1026
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: quarterback last year, and any team that passed on Leonard

1027
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Williams is going to be examined closely because that's exactly

1028
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: what the Jaguars did. But I really think we heard

1029
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: from even before the class that they loved Dante Fowler,

1030
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: that they and you know this runoff is give them this.

1031
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: They took Blake Bordles at number three when a lot

1032
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: of teams didn't know where that guy should be picked.

1033
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: They know who they want in these drafts and they

1034
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: go out and get them. Jeremiah called fowlery City plays

1035
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: as hard as anyone in the entire draft class. And

1036
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: there is This is a defense that had forty have

1037
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: sacks last year six in the league. They still have

1038
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: issues on defense, but they can rush the passer, not

1039
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: always when they want to. But maybe this is the

1040
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: kind of guy that you if Ken Wizzen hunts in trouble.

1041
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I think this is coaching staff absolutely has to turn

1042
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: the corner the entire regime to me up against it

1043
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: right now, and that is damning them with faint praise

1044
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: saying that they know who they want and they go

1045
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: get them. We got to see if they know what

1046
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: they're doing. We still have no idea. You know who

1047
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: was like that was Gene Smith, their former GM, because

1048
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: he would take guys out of nowhere that you never

1049
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: heard of, and for a little while people thought, oh

1050
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: that guy is creative, and then it turned into the

1051
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: worst roster in the world. But well, Fowler was no

1052
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: reach here though now Fowler is the missing piece for them.

1053
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: They have not an outside pass rusher in I don't know,

1054
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: I can't think of when was the last outside pass

1055
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: rusher Jacksonville had. And you're right, though they've coached up

1056
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: a really good or improving defense despite not having that

1057
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: the one other position. I mean, they really were going

1058
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: after running back very hard in free agency. They couldn't

1059
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: get anyone, and you know, they go out and get

1060
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: t J. Yelden. And I'm not gonna pretend that I

1061
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: watched seventeen hours of this guy's college career, but I

1062
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: found a quote from a scout who said, after people

1063
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, Denard Robinson, sit down, this scout wrote

1064
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: for being a creative back of Yelden, he has no

1065
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: juice to get away from anyone. He's a rotational back.

1066
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him any sooner than the fifth because

1067
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: you can find guys like that all over the place.

1068
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: That's at six thirty six overall. Pick well, they must disagree,

1069
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: that must not have They thought strongly. They thought strongly

1070
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: about Toby Gerhardt last year, so maybe this team could

1071
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: have a bit of a blind spot in the backfield.

1072
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: They were desperate to take a running back. If you

1073
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: if you read Mike Silver's article inside the Jaguars war Room,

1074
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley was pounding the table to take Yellden and

1075
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: get what he thought was a bell cow back. So

1076
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: we'll see if that's a little bit of a reach.

1077
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: Did they do enough to put some new weapons west

1078
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: around Blake Bordles, who they need to see progress from

1079
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: ten seconds? I don't know. I mean outside of send

1080
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Derek Mark's coming off an a c L injury and

1081
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas who they signed, who's a star on this

1082
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: roster like a like a difference making talent. The one

1083
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: thing I'd say is they use last. They have a

1084
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: lot of young talent, but it's all he might develop

1085
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: into a good starter. You gotta hope Bordles. Yeah. Moving

1086
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: on finally to the a f C West and I'll

1087
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: start again. Mark not a power rankings of the Kansas

1088
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: City Chiefs up first, Uh. I thought they should have

1089
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: been more aggressive and deepening their wide receiver group. There

1090
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: is a stat out there greg no touchdowns by the

1091
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: Chief's wide receivers in two thousands. Some people are aware

1092
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: of that. Some people are not. Pop quiz Mark Sessler,

1093
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: because you're good at this game. Who's this who's slotted on?

1094
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: Our lads to be starting across from Jeremy Macklin for

1095
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: the Chiefs this season. That might be young Hemingway our friends,

1096
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't know the Anthony Thomas. Who's why you don't,

1097
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: That's why you don't our lands like a bible. All right,

1098
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Who's who's the guys be? Albert Wilson and Chris Connelly,

1099
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: the rookie they drafted will be competing for the job opposite. Well,

1100
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: before we get into it, I get into this because

1101
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: with the third round pick, they selected Chris Conley, wide

1102
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: receiver out of Georgia. So maybe you like the Anthony

1103
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: Thomas who showed some playmaking skills last year. Maybe you

1104
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: think Albert Wilson is a guy who can progress. But

1105
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: really you would think that Chris Conley, their third round pick,

1106
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: is going to get a chance at a starting job

1107
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: out of the gate. Should they have gotten a little

1108
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: higher and gotten a more promising player higher in this

1109
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: draft than the seventy pick. How many third round wide

1110
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: receivers come in and start Day one? That's it's prayer

1111
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: for that to happen. And d Anthony Thomas, he's you know,

1112
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: he's he's a little chess piece that he and snaps

1113
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: a game. He's not a He's not a guy who's

1114
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: gonna start. Well, they're they're not an NFL offense. They're

1115
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: a totally weird existence of a team that just throws

1116
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: passes under eight yards, so they their whole like maybe

1117
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that goes deeply isn't even that useful

1118
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: for them. They're playmakers are Jamal Charles and Travis Kelsey

1119
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: and now Jeremy Macklin too, So it's just there a wild, wacky,

1120
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: weird offense. They will be remember in the two best

1121
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver classes we've seen in ages and ages as

1122
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: a team that didn't use that at all to improve

1123
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: their team. And outside of Macklin, a guy that Reid

1124
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: knows Macklin, so he's gonna go get these players he likes.

1125
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Come on, Kansas City, how are you gonna sell ticket?

1126
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't that my point. I can think that Dan

1127
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: made an excellent I guess I was thinking last two

1128
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: classes are so good and historic, and you know they

1129
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of punted on taking a big chance on a

1130
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: wide out point for Dan. No, I'm not looking for points.

1131
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: Never really negative. We're all fired to Westling were mentioning

1132
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: around the hardy you know what I'm I'm a little

1133
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: it's a little depressing when you think about it, does

1134
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: seem like by the time, with this weird offense that

1135
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: they have and Alex Smith involved in, Andy Reid got wasting.

1136
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles is prime. It's gonna be thirty two years

1137
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: old before we know it, and really one of the

1138
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: more underrated backs of his generation is going to be history.

1139
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: It's depressing to think that they have Charles Kelsey on

1140
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: their team. And yet if you have to rank teams,

1141
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: you would want to watch next year Ballpark? Where is

1142
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City twenty eight and a half and twenty nine

1143
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: and a half? Right in the middle, it's a quarterback. Alright,

1144
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: moving on, Chris Wessling give us. I'm sorry, Greg Rostell.

1145
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Gotta gotta keep with the faith of San Diego Chargers.

1146
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little about this Chargers draft

1147
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: want in the second round because people people, We'll talk

1148
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: about Melvin Gordon in the second But why do they

1149
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: keep investing so much time, money and energy on inside linebacker.

1150
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: They just gave a massive contract to Donald Butler, who's

1151
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: been a who was a disappointment last year. Maybe they're

1152
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: getting rid of them. They get Man tite Out, who

1153
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: you probably has a similar skill set to a lot

1154
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: of fits. By the way, nice fake girlfriend, you hear

1155
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: about that? Crazy And now they take Denzel Perriman and

1156
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Denzel Perriman will be great, but

1157
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: it was a strange move to me for a him

1158
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: that's already picked up a lot of inside linebackers. So

1159
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: you were a huge fan of what they did there. No,

1160
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: that's all I got, you know, just they need a

1161
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher. They need a pass rusher. You've got receivers

1162
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: and Jeremiah Totashoe right right. Well, I dare you to

1163
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: name any player on this roster who's had more than

1164
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: six sacks in a season. That's a fair point. I mean,

1165
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: they're really counting on Ingram, so I thought they needed

1166
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: something there. They had to trade up to get Gordon.

1167
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: We'll see if they really needed to. I don't know

1168
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: a problem with going out now. I like that. In fact,

1169
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: I thought they should have made a push for one

1170
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of those free agents, to Marco Murray. I remember predicting

1171
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: they needed that guy desperately, so they went out and

1172
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: they got him. I really liked that pick, and he's

1173
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a three down type of guy. I

1174
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: mean you put him and then on third downs when

1175
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: you don't use him, you have Woodhead and well Brandon Oliver.

1176
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to They have some interesting different

1177
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: running backs and and I can't stop thinking about what

1178
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: they were at the end of two seasons ago when

1179
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews was and joined his best year and they

1180
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: were just pounding people with the run and taking the

1181
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: heat off Philip Rivers. They can do that again if

1182
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: they hit on the scording pit. I like that. You

1183
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking. I can't stop thinking about an I

1184
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of other responsibilities completely cast aside, and

1185
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: I cannot I can't get enough money here. Here's why,

1186
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm a little I was thinking,

1187
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: We'll see they might have gotten a little freaked out

1188
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: by the Texans, or the Texans had a nice little

1189
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: pump fake because they traded up to just go up

1190
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: two picks. They gave up a fourth and a fifth

1191
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: because they were worried that the Texans were going to

1192
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: take him in between. So you want to talk about

1193
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: a smoke screen maybe working, Maybe that would you know

1194
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: the Texas. The Texans only get into the minds of

1195
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: other teams and shake things up. We've seen this. I've

1196
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: got a friend, Brad Spicer, who I've known for a

1197
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: long time. I trust him. It's Spice Spicy. I trust

1198
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: him on college evaluation more than anybody. And he sent

1199
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: me a text moment before the draft started saying, if

1200
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys draft Melvin Gordon, I guarantee you he

1201
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: leads the NFL and rushing as a rook DJ like

1202
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: as much or more than Girly. He seems like a

1203
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: very safe and yet exciting picks. So he needs to

1204
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: have a column, the Spice Rack. And it's just that

1205
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: the Spice Rack takes him up the Spice Rack. Spicy.

1206
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: Next up the West and this was the Westling and

1207
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 1: this was not an accident. The buzzer arrived just in time. Well,

1208
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, I approached this exercise as I would raise

1209
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: questions for the group. And the first question I that

1210
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: came to my mind was how long until each of

1211
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: this draft Each of these draft picks is released by

1212
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Reggie mackenzon Wow on the same day that James Jones

1213
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: has released one year after he signed, which is, you know,

1214
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: one year after Matt Shab one year after reached Jones.

1215
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: Drew Lamar Woodley, this is what the Raiders do. But

1216
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: we'll get kind about rest in peace. West has mentions

1217
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: after this podcast goes live. I've already blocked all the

1218
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: they they had a good draft last year, and not

1219
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: just the first two picks. They got contributions from their third,

1220
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: which it was a very good draft, which is why

1221
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: I have a follow up question. Okay, are the building

1222
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: blocks of Derek Carr, Amari Cooper, Khalil Mack and Ceo

1223
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: Moore strong enough to win more than four games? Because

1224
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: basically that's the Raiders. That's the job now win fans interested.

1225
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things that teams do is if

1226
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: you go out and you get a quarterback and then

1227
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: you like him, and the next year, because you're still

1228
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna be crappy because your quarterback needs sometimes will

1229
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: get a good pick. Then go get one of the

1230
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: best wide receivers in the class, and then you have

1231
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: two young guys and maybe they develop into like a

1232
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: superstar report together. That's what I think the Raiders did.

1233
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Hear if both those guys hit that could you could

1234
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: build an offense around those two players. But as we've

1235
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: talked about on this podcast before, we have no idea

1236
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: yet if Dererek Carr is any good. So until we

1237
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: know that, that really tells you everything about that organization

1238
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: and Reggie Mackenzie's future. Weel mack absolutely, and they hit

1239
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: that out of the park with car. I just don't

1240
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: want to make a final decision on a quarterback after

1241
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: one year. I know that's what we that's what they

1242
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: asked us to do all the time. But there needs

1243
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: to be more snaps, more games, and more experience for

1244
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: him until we know the signing paychecks, their small paychecks.

1245
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, Amari Cooper very very widely regarded as like

1246
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: a perfect guy to go at this pick. So I mean,

1247
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: if for all this stuff, Mackenzie's done that, how's you

1248
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: sitting there scratching your head where he's put been put

1249
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: at the draft? You can only screw it up if

1250
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: you don't go out and get the guy that's the

1251
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: best player. And he did that with Khalil mack last year,

1252
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: and I think he might have done it again with Cooper.

1253
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm more worried about the coaching staff. I'm

1254
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: just as worried about the coaching staff as I aim

1255
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: about the roster. So when you brought up that question.

1256
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: My thought is, well, can Jack del Rio, Bill Musgrave

1257
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: and Ken Norton Jr. Uh really max out a team's roster?

1258
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: And I have my doubts on that. And this roster

1259
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: isn't very good. And it's been so long since the

1260
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Raiders have been good that it's like hard to even

1261
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: imagine them winning more than six games. I don't want

1262
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: to keep swinging positive on the Raiders, but here's one

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Speaker 1: thing that maybe is good about the dynamic it's going

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Speaker 1: on there because the coaching staff that came in has

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Speaker 1: enough power to tell Mackenzie, you go cut all these

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Speaker 1: players that you brought in last year that aren't gonna

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Speaker 1: win for us. I mean, that's not what GM wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Rio did not inspire confidence with this player evaluation. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, second round pick Mario Edwards Jr. From

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Speaker 1: what everyone says was a terrible pick. Really, Greg, did

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Speaker 1: you notice the sneaky wage grievance there by Cessler. I

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Speaker 1: didn't find it to be that's sneaky. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was right out that was tuned out by then. Finally,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, the last team in the ANFC, the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: You know he's looking at their draft, and I think

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Speaker 1: number one the real theme here was Kubiak having to

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Speaker 1: go out and get guys that he can use in

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Speaker 1: his offense, which from an offensive line standpoint, they made

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Speaker 1: change at center. They bring in Max Garcia and another

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Speaker 1: guy that I just watched probably four or five games

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Speaker 1: of his from each of his past few seasons. This

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Speaker 1: is a zone blocking center. Where did he go to school? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know that's not the important part. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: where he's now. And he's in Denver, N. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do fine. I think that's a good pick up.

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Speaker 1: They went and got a tight end and Jeff Howerman

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Speaker 1: that fits that offense. And on defense, you know you

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Speaker 1: have to Marcus where and you got von Miller and

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Speaker 1: you go out and get Shane Ray. So it's basically

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Speaker 1: saying we are just going to dominate one aspect of

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Speaker 1: the game on defense, and Shane Ray pans out, that

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Speaker 1: could be interesting. I think, you know, Denver didn't have

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Speaker 1: as many needs as some of these other teams, and

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Speaker 1: they went out and they went best player available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the Shane Ray pick was definitely best. It

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Speaker 1: was this guy's a top ten talent and he's available here,

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Speaker 1: let's trade up right, the best trade pass rushing or

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Speaker 1: trio in the league. Any good? Yeah. My mother in

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Speaker 1: law sent me a text after the pick saying how

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Speaker 1: great it was that he was going to a marijuana

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Speaker 1: friendly state. My mother in law dropped, well that is there.

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Speaker 1: There seemed to be something. I got mentions of that

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Speaker 1: on Twitter like pot so he not gonna get in

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Speaker 1: trouble with the law, but just the long arm of

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Speaker 1: the commissioner or whoever makes the policy in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a great pick. I wonder if there

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Speaker 1: was no uh weed bust or the whatever the citation,

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Speaker 1: if he would have been a top fifteen pick. They're

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Speaker 1: also concerns about his footy. I think he had surgery,

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Speaker 1: there was, but there was also a thought he could

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Speaker 1: go as high as five or six. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that was probably the most popular Jets mock pick

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Speaker 1: people thought. I think he would have been a surprise

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Speaker 1: if he got out of the top ten. So it's

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Speaker 1: a great value for John Mode. I mean, they got

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Speaker 1: uh And let's face it, like when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Broncos to like this draft class, they need instant contributors.

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Speaker 1: No one has a smaller window right now than the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: It's it's next year or bust, and they're probably kind

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Speaker 1: of blown up the machine after two thousand fifteen, So

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Speaker 1: they need these guys to be instant contributed at the

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Speaker 1: top of this draft if they're gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: for this era of the Broncos. It's it's weird you

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Speaker 1: think that anyone there, anyone they're drafting now is essentially

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Speaker 1: going to be brought in for the post Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: era because he ain't playing after this season. Well, their

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Speaker 1: second round pick might have been a pick for the future,

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Speaker 1: not a guy to play right now, which is fine

1329
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Speaker 1: because San Claydy right now is no longer Ryan Claydy

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Speaker 1: and he might not be longer for the roster left

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Speaker 1: tackle though, is he? I thought he was a right

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Speaker 1: use him at both. I think it's fine to project

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Speaker 1: guys because you need to think about the next page.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like you need this draft to have

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Speaker 1: some guys that are gonna come in right away. Super Bowl, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think the roster is good enough

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Speaker 1: to win it. People are giving up on the Broncos

1338
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Speaker 1: too fast. It all depends on their quarterback is his

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Speaker 1: arm still his arm? I don't know what else it

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Speaker 1: would be. That's it. That was a success. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, we're ripped off ESPN property. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that though, did we? Oh, like they

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Speaker 1: have a that usually works. I didn't know that. Excuse

1344
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Speaker 1: for a news flash, there were buzzers before ESPN existed.

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Speaker 1: How didn't you? I didn't realize that. I copy and

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Speaker 1: pasted three graphs from the New York Times and stuck

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Speaker 1: it into my story and then click public. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize we were ripping off my fifth grade basketball game.

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Speaker 1: I mean buzzers that you know, they have a lot

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Speaker 1: of uses. We all didn't put a face on a

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Speaker 1: popsicle stick. At least we brought mirth to it. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's enough for the intellectual property to be protected,

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Speaker 1: if not TDS involved in the lawsuit. So either way,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a win win t TU or FOSS.

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Speaker 1: You learned more in that forty eight minutes than any

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Speaker 1: move The Sticks podcast, Uh, no comment? Oh what that? Well?

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Speaker 1: We referenced Daniel Jeremiah. I'll tell you how often does

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Speaker 1: he reference I'll tell you this new move. The six

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Speaker 1: Podcast coming out later today, but he still doesn't. I

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Speaker 1: thought he's shutting it down that I'll let you know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe you guys listen to it too. Okay, I listened

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Speaker 1: to it. I got to clean out my I saw

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Speaker 1: new uh you guys, I bought a new ball and

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Speaker 1: chain for Billick. I heard for the upcoming season time

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Speaker 1: in the studio. All right, that's it for Tuesday's. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, Like I said earlier, Thursday will

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Speaker 1: do the NFC all sixteen teams and they have some

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Speaker 1: proper coverage for you. This is real quick. Sorry, real

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Speaker 1: shout out to another Zach zach Adacius Lassa Zack Dressers

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Speaker 1: today stand hands as signing off for the Mailman, Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: Jesus the Boss, and STV behind the Glass