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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio win or lose.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a bigger game in the early

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Speaker 1: portion of the college football season than the one we're

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Speaker 1: seeing right now. And it's not your traditional SEC powerhouses,

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Speaker 1: it's not your big brands you're used to. It's Oregon

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Speaker 1: right now in a tie game in the second half

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Speaker 1: a damn because as we sit right now, Indiana certainly

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Speaker 1: looks like a college football playoff caliber football team and

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Speaker 1: they are giving Oregon everything they can handle in Oregon

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Speaker 1: in a matchup that has massive ramifications for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's

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Speaker 1: so you you buck Rising, sitting in my Cydney, Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna watch my team, the Raiders take on the

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Speaker 1: team you cover the Titans on Sunday. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But no, we don't have to.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, it's okay, Please God, No, we don't have to.

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Speaker 2: I swear it's okay, FITZI.

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Speaker 1: We want to actually break down the game. Come on,

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Speaker 1: like that game sucks, but the game we've got right now.

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Speaker 1: For anyone that doesn't know, you're a lifelong die hard

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Speaker 1: Indiana guy, right, you're from Indiana. You you've got all

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Speaker 1: the Indiana University what what do you? What do you sign?

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Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten to them. I'm trying to give

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Speaker 1: you accolades right now for your team.

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Speaker 2: Gotten to what You've been talking for three minutes straight.

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Speaker 2: Take a breath.

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Speaker 1: I learned it from watching you. How are we feeling

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Speaker 1: right now? How are we feeling?

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Speaker 3: I don't know you're you're talking too fast. Martin can't

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Speaker 3: get a sentence out. And the Hoosiers are competing in

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Speaker 3: what should be a college football playoff game. It feels

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Speaker 3: like a big time game at number three Oregon. Here's

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Speaker 3: the thing, all right, I am a graduate of Indiana University.

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Speaker 3: I love Indiana basketball. I have lived in the state

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Speaker 3: of Tennessee for ten years, so my football allegiance is

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Speaker 3: somewhere between Notre Dame and the Tennessee Balls, who are

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Speaker 3: also in a pretty interesting game right now hosting unranked Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: Both of those teams off of bye talk about college

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Speaker 3: football playoff resume implications as we are well into week seven,

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Speaker 3: and it's been a fun day so far. Indiana competing

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Speaker 3: FITZI I've been a Notre Dame fan as far as football.

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Speaker 3: That's the brilliance of Kurt Signetti. Somebody is going to

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Speaker 3: hire this man, or at least somebody is going to

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Speaker 3: throw so much money at this dude, whether it be

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Speaker 3: Florida or any of these other jobs that feel like

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Speaker 3: they're going to come open at year's end. Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 3: at Indiana, the fact that he has an undefeated Hoosiers

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Speaker 3: team at five and zho coming off a college football

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Speaker 3: playoff appearance at Indiana where they won eleven games for

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Speaker 3: the first time in program history, and this man just

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, and that they are competing with one of

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Speaker 3: the pre eminent college football programs in the country, Dan Lanning,

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen all and I'm hype. This is sick.

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Speaker 3: It's a really really cool thing just to see what

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Speaker 2: Where fan base is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's ever cared about Indiana football, but they're

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Speaker 2: Look at them, Look at the Hoosiers. It's awesome. It's

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Speaker 3: You ever seen that movie Sandra Bullock where it's like

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Speaker 3: post apocalyptic. They've got this creature that it's going to

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Speaker 1: Isn't that just a zombie version of like Medusa. It

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Speaker 2: Se I don't think I explained that terribly. Well, that

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Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, even if you don't like

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Speaker 1: He's moved the ball with his feet, just got some

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Speaker 1: haven't been there so it's forced Oregon and Indiana to

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Speaker 1: Live to see another down on. Like the level of

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Speaker 1: And that's part of what's made it feel like such

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the kind of that's that is why

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Speaker 3: Oregon was going to work well in the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: This is like, this is like Iowa.

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Speaker 3: And Illinois slugging it out in a late November Big

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Speaker 3: travel schedule looks like now where Indiana is traveling to

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Speaker 3: Oregon in a conference game, it's insanity. But I do

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Speaker 3: way that Indiana has not been overtly aggressive. Kurtzignetti is

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Speaker 3: not to get back into a diatribe about him, but

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Speaker 3: I mean, did you know the backstory on this guy?

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Speaker 2: Like one of Nick.

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Speaker 3: Saban's top lieutenants at Alabama's wide receiver coach, went into

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Speaker 3: of do something similar. He's sixty one, He's out here

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Speaker 3: playing in one of the biggest games of the college

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Speaker 3: it's actually living up to the hype. There are games

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Speaker 3: James Franklin hasn't done what Kurt Signetti is doing, or

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Speaker 3: at least, you know, they're good enough to lose to

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would trust Indiana over Penn State, which is a

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Speaker 3: crazy thing to say in the modern day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it? Because Penn State right now, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't checked your scorecards, is losing to Northwestern sixteen

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Speaker 1: is going off the rails. And it's interesting you brought

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Speaker 1: last week, Signetti is the eighteenth highest paid coach in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. He's making about eight point three million

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Speaker 1: below a year. So I'm sorry, he's the sixth highest.

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Speaker 1: He's paid less than Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley and Dan Lanning,

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Speaker 1: is to your point you said earlier, you know, somebody's

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Speaker 1: right thing. They're paying him aggressively enough, like this is

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Speaker 1: the great hope. This is the white whale for everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you sit there and you say, well, we can't

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Speaker 1: billion dollar facilities. Oh, Indiana's figuring it out. They just

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Speaker 1: up thirteen to six on Oklahoma, Number six Oklahoma in

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Speaker 1: seven days removed from hand surgery, fourteen to twenty four

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Speaker 1: ugly football game in Texas right now, thirteen six. If

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Speaker 1: worst version we can remember of a Texas team in

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Speaker 1: a minute, and you are losing the Red River Rivalry

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Speaker 1: in a year where you have national championship aspirations. It's

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Speaker 1: just this is tough. There's plenty of time left, but

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty surprised that Oklahoma can't figure out a way

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Speaker 3: No, but I mean, it's it brings into question their

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Speaker 3: decision to put John Matier out there.

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Speaker 2: Fitz. He's been intercepted twice. It's not like arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Has done anything in Texas, has done any things so spectacular.

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Speaker 3: In this game, they're still laboring. They've scored ten points

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Speaker 3: in the third quarter to kind of try and pull

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Speaker 3: beating Texas team, the type that we thought was national

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Speaker 3: going to get questions, difficult questions to answer about why

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Speaker 3: John Mattier came back in this game.

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Speaker 2: I believe it is like he's Is he three weeks

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Speaker 2: removed from hand surgery? Is he even a month removed?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a month removed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is either.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's a really really difficult spot. And

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Speaker 3: I understand that you want the kid to play, and

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Speaker 3: the kid wants to play, and he's probably begging and

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Speaker 3: pleading and being like, coach, I promise, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: I can do.

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Speaker 3: This, this, that and the other, and then he can't perform,

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Speaker 3: and it costs you in a critical opportunity to go

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Speaker 3: stick it to your rival at their place in one

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Speaker 3: of the greatest rivalries in college football that we get

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Speaker 3: and now we get it in the SEC it's just

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Speaker 3: it's a shame that it's taken the turn that it has,

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Speaker 3: but it is it is fair to question why they

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Speaker 3: put John Mattier out there before he appears to be ready.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. I miss those Golden

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have not that you ever. Would you eat

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Speaker 3: from things, Texas just returned a punt for a touchdown

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Speaker 3: to pull further away from Oaklom in a big spot.

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Speaker 2: For those of you keeping an.

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Speaker 3: Eye on the college football playoff, no flags as of yet,

438
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Speaker 3: I don't think there are flags on the play, So

439
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Speaker 3: it looks like that touchdown is going to stand pending

440
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Speaker 3: the extra point. It is nineteen to six in favor

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Speaker 3: of Texas with less than ten minutes to play in

442
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: But to get back to your point.

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Speaker 3: About the tush push, it's football is about real estate acquisition.

445
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 3: That play defines real estate acquisition to me. And it's

446
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Speaker 3: violent and it's ugly and it's gruesome and it's brutish.

447
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Speaker 3: But whatever, like way, since when did we get so

448
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: high faluting about our football? And I know that's funny

449
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Speaker 3: coming from me, given my tendency to be a bit

450
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Speaker 3: one percent about things. But at the end of the day.

451
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Speaker 3: It is the guttural version of the sport. And they're

452
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Speaker 3: better at it than you are. They're tougher at it

453
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Speaker 3: than you are, they're stronger than you are. Isn't that

454
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Speaker 3: the whole point in some form or fashion of football?

455
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Speaker 3: So what, it's not an exciting play for red zone

456
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Speaker 3: to air. I don't get bent out of shape about

457
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Speaker 3: it now. It's not helping them win games right now,

458
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Speaker 3: which is an entirely different discussion. And their real estate

459
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Speaker 3: acquisition is limited because their offensive line that has been

460
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Speaker 3: such a superpower for them is not performing up the

461
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Speaker 3: standard of late.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing though. On y'all Who Sports Daily, we

463
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Speaker 1: have Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk on this weekend.

464
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Speaker 1: I asked them about the movement to try and to

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Speaker 1: try and make to play illegal, and he made a

466
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Speaker 1: very valid point. He said, Look, if they keep running

467
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Speaker 1: the touch push but they don't win football games, there's

468
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Speaker 1: not even going to be a need for a vote

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Speaker 1: on this thing. If it's not something we're seeing in

470
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, it actually will become less a part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation. And look, I'll admit it, like I play,

472
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Speaker 1: I used to play a lot of Madden for money,

473
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Speaker 1: Like I you know, I had a problem playing Madden

474
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Speaker 1: for money for people. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No. You

475
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Speaker 1: go to a Madden tournament, like and then while you're

476
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Speaker 1: at the Madden tournament, you throw in like you just

477
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Speaker 1: go up to anybody that's good and to be like, hey,

478
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a night tonight. It's a five

479
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars PI in and then winter take call. Like

480
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Speaker 1: the amount of money I have made in my life

481
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Speaker 1: on the road. Used to make a lot of money

482
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Speaker 1: playing madn against people Like you just just go out

483
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Speaker 1: and kick the snot out of someone. You make money,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, beat him in Madam No different than beating

485
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Speaker 1: somebody in a basketball game. You know, it's a thing.

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Speaker 2: What nerdy fight club? Hell? Is this?

487
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Speaker 1: No Madden? People like people played money for Madden. Darius

488
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Speaker 1: Rutger When I was on the road with the band,

489
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Speaker 1: and Darius Rutger had a PlayStation and an Xbox set up.

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Speaker 1: His old thing though, was it was a five thousand

491
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Speaker 1: dollars pion to play game with him, and I'm like,

492
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Speaker 1: I can't afford to lose five thousand dollars on Madden.

493
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Speaker 1: So but my point being, people used to hate playing

494
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Speaker 1: against me because I would run the ball thirty times

495
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Speaker 1: in a row like I don't care. I will hold

496
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Speaker 1: the ball for the entire first half. I will run

497
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Speaker 1: three yards of play, and I will score touchdown after

498
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Speaker 1: a twenty seven play yard and drive if I have to.

499
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Speaker 1: I don't care. As long as I'm holding the ball

500
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Speaker 1: and I'm moving the ball downfield, I don't care what

501
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Speaker 1: you think of it. I'm here to win. And that's

502
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Speaker 1: a video game version of football. If you can do

503
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Speaker 1: that in real life, do it. If the Raiders tomorrow

504
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Speaker 1: can run a forty five play drive where they gain

505
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Speaker 1: two yards of play, but somehow they stay on the

506
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Speaker 1: on the field for the entire first half against the Titans,

507
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Speaker 1: I don't care. Ends in a touchdown. I'm happy. Martin.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of touchdowns, let's get Martin weis in here to

509
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Speaker 1: get us an update on what's going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Chaotics Saturday.

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Speaker 7: You know, it was really chaotic at the top of

512
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Speaker 7: the hour when the website that I use for scores

513
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Speaker 7: refreshed Virginia Tech Georgia Tech six times and then decided

514
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Speaker 7: to land on negative seven points for Virginia Tech and

515
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Speaker 7: negative six points for Georgia Tech.

516
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Speaker 2: In the third quarter.

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Speaker 7: So I was like, you know, I'm sure there is

518
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Speaker 7: a game happening, but you know that was what happened.

519
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Speaker 7: I hand up my bad guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys deserve better.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of excuses on the front end, you know,

522
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Speaker 1: he says a lot of excuses. I say, sometimes technology

523
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Speaker 1: fails and we're just rolling with the punches. None of

524
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Speaker 1: us are perfect. We'll get them next time. You're right.

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Speaker 7: I should have called the AP, had them phone in

526
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Speaker 7: the actual score so I would be ready.

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Speaker 2: I'll be ready.

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Speaker 3: There's still dudes doing that in the press box. It

529
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Speaker 3: makes me insane. What are we doing in the year

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five? But anyway, go ahead, lord, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: They were good.

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Speaker 7: Ten minutes left for Indiana and Orion back and forth

533
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Speaker 7: gave Indiana's given organ everything they can handle, twenty a piece.

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Speaker 7: The seventh ranged Hoosiers and the third ring Ducks. Oregon

535
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Speaker 7: playing at home in this one, Texas, as you guys

536
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Speaker 7: just heard from a Buck Rising just returned to a

537
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Speaker 7: punt for a twenty to six lead over Oklahoma. Oklahoma

538
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Speaker 7: quarterback John Mattier is playing. He just hurt his He

539
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Speaker 7: hurt his hands seventeen days ago surgery fourteen days ago.

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Speaker 2: He's out there.

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Speaker 7: He has three interceptions, so that is going to be

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Speaker 7: a talking point. I'm sure three minutes and thirty seconds

543
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Speaker 7: left in the fourth quarter can confirm thirty five to twenty.

544
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Speaker 7: Georgia Tech has a lead over Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech

545
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Speaker 7: undefeated five and o two to and oh in conference play.

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Speaker 7: Ten minutes left in the fourth Notre Dame stretching out

547
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Speaker 7: a little bit on NC State twenty seven to seven,

548
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Speaker 7: and there looks like they're driving about to punch it

549
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Speaker 7: in again. Colorado with a twenty one to seventeen lead

550
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Speaker 7: over Iowa State, the twenty second ranked Cyclones trierling just

551
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Speaker 7: under eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, and Tennessee

552
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Speaker 7: with a twenty to seventeen lead over Arkansas. This one's

553
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Speaker 7: been back and forth as well. Tennessee the twelfth ranked

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Speaker 7: team in the nation. We earlier today we saw Ohio

555
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Speaker 7: State force three turnovers against Illinois, turned those into twenty

556
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Speaker 7: one points and ended up being a thirty four to

557
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Speaker 7: sixteen win. All mishung on against Washington State twenty one

558
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Speaker 7: to twenty four. It was a back and forth game

559
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Speaker 7: for most of that one to wast the state falls

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Speaker 7: to three and three. Alabama forces a turnover on Missouri's

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Speaker 7: flash offensive play twenty seven to twenty four, they get

562
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Speaker 7: to win both. Missouri had gone into that one undefeated,

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Speaker 7: fourteenth right the team in the nation, Alabama eighth and

564
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Speaker 7: Florida State. After that impressive Alabama win Week one, zero

565
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Speaker 7: and three in conference play, now falls to three and

566
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Speaker 7: three after Pittsburgh scored thirteen points in the fourth quarter

567
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Speaker 7: to go ahead and take a thirty four to thirty

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Speaker 7: one victory in that matchup. Now, Buck, I do have

569
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Speaker 7: to say this. I saw a clip and I it was,

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Speaker 7: you know, on Twitter, just scrolls now and I heard

571
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Speaker 7: the voice that I had.

572
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I know that voice from anywhere.

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Speaker 1: That's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 7: I heard a clip and I didn't know which one

575
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Speaker 7: of the three guys you were in the clip is

576
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Speaker 7: because I had never seen you before. But the idea

577
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Speaker 7: that was it Mari Yota was calling his own plays

578
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Speaker 7: is insanity and sanity. Oh, Ben Jones in sanity Back

579
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Speaker 7: to you guys.

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Speaker 1: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitch. You're right by the way.

581
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Speaker 1: Buck had Ben Jones, former Titans center on his local show,

582
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Speaker 1: and it was a pretty staggering to hear some of

583
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Speaker 1: the things that they were talking about from Mario's time

584
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Speaker 1: in Tennessee and just how bad certain offensive coordinators were.

585
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Speaker 1: Reminded everybody the coaching matters, what else matters that During

586
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Speaker 1: the MLB postseason, Strauss made history the first brand ever

587
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Speaker 1: on the helmets work where to build a built to

588
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Speaker 1: perform smart pocket design, real comfort durability from grit to glory.

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Speaker 1: Gear up today at Strauss dot com, s t R

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Speaker 1: a U s S dot com. He's Buck Rising, I'm

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Speaker 1: Jason Fitz and I think that's just part of what

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Speaker 1: we have to understand. Like coaching matters, playing matters, execution matters,

593
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: all of it matters. Everybody wants to find one failure,

594
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Speaker 1: one reason for failure when everything's fail And let's go

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Speaker 1: back to Philly for a second, Buck, because you've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers. Apparently, according to multiple reports

597
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Speaker 1: in aj Brown and devouta Smith that weren't happy with

598
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Speaker 1: the offense, but it didn't matter when they were four

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Speaker 1: and oh that was ten days ago. Now they're four

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: and two and it feels like the sky is just falling.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to just be out at this point

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Speaker 1: on being able to accomplish anything in Philly.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've not really had I know it's dumb to say,

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Speaker 3: but I've not had high expectations for Philadelphia this year

605
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Speaker 3: before the season started. And my logic fitsy is this,

606
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Speaker 3: it is damn near impossible to win back to back

607
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Speaker 3: Super Bowls, to be as competitive for two consecutive seasons

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Speaker 3: of just grinding, grueling football the way that a lot

609
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Speaker 3: of teams save the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs, have been

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Speaker 3: able to accomplish. It's it's really difficult. So that I

611
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Speaker 3: looked at Philadelphia and said, yeah, they're divisions not the best.

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Speaker 3: Washington should push them, certainly, should give them at least

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Speaker 3: a fight for the division at this point. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think that this year's Philadelphia team should have a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl aspiration, given that they just won the championship

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Speaker 3: and those seasons are incredibly long when you're playing that

617
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Speaker 3: much football at the end of the year, so that

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Speaker 3: they're kind of, you know, showing some of these awards.

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Speaker 3: I'm I think they'll figure it out. There's still who

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Speaker 3: has a more talented roster than Philadelphia, Like which which

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Speaker 3: NFL team anywhere? And I know it's not just simply talent,

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Speaker 3: and talent is I mean, players on the field are

623
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Speaker 3: what when you football games. The coaching obviously is there

624
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Speaker 3: to support. But who has a better roster top to

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Speaker 3: bottom still than Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: I don't think many teams would even be in the

627
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Speaker 1: same category. And that's why I'm just not willing to panic,

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00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: you know. I think this is what we have to learn.

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Speaker 1: With Super Bowl teams from prior years. You get so

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Speaker 1: much just experience on what it takes and what the

631
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Speaker 1: grind is. I think in the next season. We used

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Speaker 1: to always call it like the Super Bowl hangover effect,

633
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: and I think there's some reality to that, But I

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Speaker 1: also think in modern football there's a little of like

635
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Speaker 1: I know when I need to just dial it back

636
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I know when I need to

637
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: absolutely go all gas, no breaks. Kansas City over the

638
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: last few years has been willing to struggle early in

639
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Speaker 1: the season, even in the middle of the season, knowing

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Speaker 1: that they need to be all gas, no breaks in

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Speaker 1: December and then all of a sudden. This is like

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Speaker 1: part of the reason that I feel like most years

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00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: we're having a conversation about Kelsey's old and he's broken,

644
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: and then we get to the playoffs and it's like,

645
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: got ten catches, eleven catches, nine catches? Why because he

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00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: understands it. A game in November doesn't really matter, right.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that there's a little bit of

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00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: a your four and two and everybody's telling me how

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00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: broken it is, and yeah, the offense hasn't looked right,

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Speaker 1: that's all. Those are all fair things to say. I

651
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Speaker 1: just don't know that I believe at my core that

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Speaker 1: Philly won't get it right. I think there's just part

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Speaker 1: of the process of like, we're going to get the

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Speaker 1: rhythm and the timing and in a month we'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: And as long as we're treading water until we're fine

656
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Speaker 1: and we're truly playing our best football in December, I'm

657
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Speaker 1: not going to panic. It's not that big a deal.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was Diana Russini this week that had

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Speaker 3: the stat about Philadelphia prior to Thursday Night Football leading

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Speaker 3: the league in three announce and things like that are concerned, right,

661
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Speaker 3: but it doesn't mean it shows that they've hit a

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Speaker 3: bit of a rut. And as a talented roster and

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Speaker 3: a defending champion, we're going to hyper analyze everything that

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Speaker 3: we do. God knows in that market they are going

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Speaker 3: to hyper scrutinize.

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Speaker 2: I love Eagles fans by the way.

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Speaker 3: They lose their first game in a situation where you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams would would lose given what they

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Speaker 3: were up against against the Broncos. And I saw texts

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Speaker 3: or messages flying around from like Eagles message boards or

671
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Speaker 3: social media.

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Speaker 2: About Keith Nick Sirianni away from my team.

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Speaker 3: They just lost their first game in one hundred and

674
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Speaker 3: eighty seven days, like that's the standard for Philadelphia football.

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Speaker 3: So I acknowledge that on the front end, I am

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Speaker 3: not out on the Eagles by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: I think that they have some things to work through.

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Speaker 3: I think that they're fun to talk about, and they

679
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Speaker 3: have polarizing personalities. And if Aj Brown is going to

680
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Speaker 3: add some fuel to the fire because he doesn't necessarily

681
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Speaker 3: understand the context of a question or just wants to

682
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Speaker 3: screw with the Philadelphia media postgame the way that you know,

683
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Speaker 3: I covered Aj for his first three years of his career.

684
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Speaker 3: He likes to have some fun from time to time,

685
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Speaker 3: and that's all well and good, but it turns into

686
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Speaker 3: a whole thing, and then he's got to put out

687
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Speaker 3: a clarification on Twitter yesterday, FITZI about the meeting in

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Speaker 3: the parking lot and all of the things that we're

689
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Speaker 3: freaking out about when the Eagles are foreign to You

690
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Speaker 3: know what I would do to cover a foreign to

691
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Speaker 3: football team because I used to. It's those things are

692
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Speaker 3: you see in real time or it's hard to separate

693
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Speaker 3: yourself in real time from flaws that you can obviously

694
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Speaker 3: see because you see this football team every day if

695
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Speaker 3: you're a Philadelphia fan or a Philadelphia media member, or

696
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Speaker 3: just for as often as they're on television for us

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Speaker 3: all to see them this way. But in reality, they

698
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Speaker 3: have too much talent to not be able to overcome

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Speaker 3: some level of this. Do I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl this year?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I think that they have some flaws and that they are.

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Speaker 3: There are better teams out there, but it's a wide

704
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Speaker 3: open NFC. It's not like anybody looks better than them

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Speaker 3: right now, even though they've got their own wards, and

706
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Speaker 3: I do think that they're smart enough to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: State misses a big tackle and gives up a huge

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Speaker 1: first down again unranked Penn State right now they are

709
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Speaker 1: without the ball. They are trailing by one with a

710
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Speaker 1: minute and forty one seconds to go in the game.

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Speaker 1: Northwestern with the ball and with the ability to control

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Speaker 1: the clock here, so we'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 1: Texas is up on Oklahoma, and of course we have

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Speaker 1: a score. Indiana has taken the lead against Oregon. He's

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Speaker 1: Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. By the way, with the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you happen to be.

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Speaker 1: live twenty four to seven in the new and improved

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Just there's Fox Sports Radio in the app.

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Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app, so it will always pop up

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Speaker 1: at the top of your screen. We'll get you updated

724
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Speaker 1: on the scores across college football, some big results coming

725
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Speaker 1: down to the Wireplus, Buck just said something about Eagles

726
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Speaker 1: fans wanting to fire Sirianni That has me wondering, why

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Speaker 1: does everybody everybody the hate their favorite teams coach. We'll

728
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Speaker 1: talk about it next Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz. Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio

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Speaker 1: College football Saturday is just never disappoint He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz. It's fucking Rising hanging out with you,

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Speaker 1: Fucking Rising? Good God, can we just know that's fine?

733
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Speaker 1: The name of the same Bucking Rising. Like that.

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Speaker 3: I like this music. Mary's trying to get back on

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Speaker 3: my good side. Don't think I don't see you.

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Speaker 1: Because you think she she knew that you wanted some

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Speaker 1: some Latin lover music.

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Speaker 3: Just neel a little shelter shaking music. I'm about to

739
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Speaker 3: be on the Vegas Strip after this. I got a

740
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Speaker 3: big night ahead of me. FITZI, I just need to

741
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Speaker 3: need to feel something a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I don't regret much in my

743
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Speaker 1: life in general. I regret that I didn't prioritize going

744
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Speaker 1: out to Vegas just a party with you all weekend

745
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Speaker 1: and then watch the Raiders kick the snot out of

746
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Speaker 1: the Titans with all my friends that seemed to be

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Speaker 1: in town, a couple of a big what what the

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Speaker 1: Raiders are gonna win that game? Okay, so just just

749
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Speaker 1: just stop with it.

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Speaker 3: Probably, but like, what great triumph to beat up on

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, who needed Amari Democrato to fart the

752
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Speaker 3: football out backwards as he was crossing the goal line

753
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Speaker 3: last week and route to one of the dumbest things

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Speaker 3: that continues to happen in the National Football League, the

755
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Speaker 3: rare fumble touchback situation that allows a team to rally

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Speaker 3: back down fifteen. Yes, I'm so happy for you if

757
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Speaker 3: you beat the mighty Titans.

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Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, but you know full damn well that

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Speaker 1: if the opposite holds true, the listening audience in Nashville

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Speaker 1: that you hang out with every day, many of who

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Speaker 1: follow me on social media, you know that they're gonna

762
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Speaker 1: be relentless if the Titans beat the Raiders. Like, let's

763
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Speaker 1: just be honest. This is like, this is a Spider

764
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Speaker 1: Man meme of two terrible teams talking to two terrible teams. Like.

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Speaker 1: This is a fat girl calling somebody else fat. This

766
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Speaker 1: is an ugly guy calling somebody else ugly. Like this

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Speaker 1: is just like, at some point, I'll take a win.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what it looks like. I don't care

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Speaker 1: how I get out of the slump. I just want

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Speaker 1: a slumpbuster. And if that's gonna be the Titan, then

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Speaker 1: keep the lights off, and let's just get this thing

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes.

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Speaker 2: God knows, the Titans wouldn't be the first lumpbuster in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: For your purposes, they may, they may be able to

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Speaker 3: right those wrongs, but they are I mean, they are

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: both fraud football teams. Like we don't have to get

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Speaker 3: into a full Titans Raiders breakdown for the national audience

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Speaker 3: that doesn't know. Nobody wants it. I don't even want it.

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Speaker 3: I cover the Titans. I'm in Vegas. I travel, I

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Speaker 3: cover the team and travel across the country, so.

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Speaker 2: I go to all these games.

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Speaker 3: I'm here in Vegas, Titans playing at Vegas for the

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Speaker 3: first time since Vegas, or since the Raiders moved to

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Speaker 3: Vegas last time they were still in Oakland. Fit's a very,

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Speaker 3: very traumatic in twenty nineteen terrible stadium. Anyway, I think

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Speaker 3: that when you talk about like there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: desperate football teams out there in Week six, right as

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Speaker 3: we get ready to get the Week six games back

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Speaker 3: underway after Thursday Night football, I mean, think about the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. They are hosting the Los Angeles Rams this week.

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Speaker 3: They are also they have they sport the same record

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Speaker 3: as the Mighty Titans and Raiders. When that, I think,

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Speaker 3: by consensus, at least in the AFC, I felt more.

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Speaker 3: I felt like more people picked Baltimore to win the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year than they have since Lamar came

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Speaker 3: into the league.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's not get it twisted though. According to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore is still the favorite to win their division today

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Speaker 1: right now as it stands. And you mentioned the Ravens

801
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Speaker 1: and it just makes me, it sort of makes my

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Speaker 1: skin crawl a little bit for Ravens fans because full

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Speaker 1: transparency Yahoo Sports stately, the show that I'm on every day,

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Speaker 1: we have a Ravens fan and a Bills fan that

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Speaker 1: both work on that show behind the scenes, right well,

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Speaker 1: a couple of our producers. And we also have a

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Speaker 1: Browns fan. What is amazing to me is that when

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Speaker 1: we first started talking about each of our favorite teams,

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Speaker 1: you just have a conversation behind the scenes. The Browns

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Speaker 1: fan was like, yeah, I can't wait for this team

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Speaker 1: to fire Kevin Stefanski, Like, Kevin Stefanski is the problem.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens fan was like, yeah, I've been waiting for

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Speaker 1: this team to fire Harball forever. He is not the

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Speaker 1: guy to get it to the next and then the

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Speaker 1: Bills fan in another meeting is that they're talking about. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: McDermott isn't the answer. I think back to when the

817
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Speaker 1: Seahawks just lost. I had a buddy that's a Seahawks

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Speaker 1: fan text me. He's like, yeah, we got to get

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Speaker 1: a new coach. I'm like, you've lost your dann mind,

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Speaker 1: to which he then started sending me tweets and Reddit

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Speaker 1: threads and all of these things of everybody saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: Michael McDonald is not the answer. The defense isn't good

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Speaker 1: enough for a defensive head coach. Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: y'all like what you think, but I just constantly say this. Look,

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Speaker 1: I am a fan of a team that I think,

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Speaker 1: by the numbers, have had sixteen coaches in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty three years, sixteen seventeen. Like every time somebody sits

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Speaker 1: here and says, fire my coach, my dea, and then

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, you don't just keep running it back

830
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Speaker 1: because you don't run it back because you're afraid to change.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what you say when you've been good

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Speaker 1: enough that you're not scared of being terrible. I'm sorry,

833
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Speaker 1: Like some of y'all need to learn that being terrible

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Speaker 1: is actually worse than being pretty good and not getting

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. I don't know why you don't

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Speaker 1: see that, but man, like, if your team is three

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Speaker 1: and fourteen every single year, that hits it. If you're

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Speaker 1: telling me you need to fire Harball because the Ravens

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Speaker 1: haven't won a Super Bowl, there's just asinine to me.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what Mike McDonald, just because you brought

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Speaker 3: him up, do you know what his record at home is? No,

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Speaker 3: it's four and twelve, he's nine to one on the road.

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Speaker 3: They don't win in front of their home fans. So

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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things there. Just to

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Speaker 3: talk about that example, specifically, they haven't won at home.

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Speaker 3: The people that are going and showing up and attending

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Speaker 3: their games, who are going to be their most passionate

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Speaker 3: are going to be freaking out because they are just

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Speaker 3: objectively bad at home. Whether whether they're in these games

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Speaker 3: or not. I don't know what the correlation there is,

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Speaker 3: but I think that would feed at least that specific example.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm in Tennessee or I've covered Tennessee, there was

853
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Speaker 3: fire Brian Callahan signs on college game day to day.

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Speaker 3: College game day was in Eugene, Oregon. You tell me

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Speaker 3: what's going on there. Each context is required for each

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Speaker 3: of these situations fits.

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Speaker 1: And that's the hardest thing about this is that I

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Speaker 1: think every but he just presumes this guy can't get

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Speaker 1: it done, so I'm gonna go get somebody else and buck.

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Speaker 1: Where I think that gets just dangerous is that you

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Speaker 1: end up with this cycle as you and I have

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Speaker 1: talked about, where the person making the decisions doesn't change.

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Speaker 1: But also, I think there's a lot more bad coaches

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Speaker 1: out there than good ones. I just believe shit at

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Speaker 1: my cord that there's plenty of just terrible, terrible coaches.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that changing your coach, like everybody

867
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Speaker 1: wants a fast answer, because changing a coach is better

868
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: than changing fifty three, But I don't know that it works.

869
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: It's like chasing a quarterback. Everybody wants Patrick Mahomes. Everybody

870
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: wants Kyle Shanahan because Kyle Shanahan can just whip up

871
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: some wizardry and win games with Mac Jones after he

872
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: just saw a dead body in a body of water

873
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: afterwards like it or before just craziness.

874
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Mac Jones, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones. Like.

875
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: The list of quarterbacks that have gone on to be

876
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: successful when they're not with the coach they're with is

877
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: a reminder to everybody that maybe your favorite team's quarterback

878
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: doesn't suck, maybe your favorite team's coach sucks. But then

879
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: how do you find the right coaches that can get

880
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: the right things out of them? I don't know. There's

881
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: no easy en, So we'll keep breaking it down. Plus

882
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: we'll get you caught up on the biggest news in

883
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: college football coming up next. Bucking fits Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. As it stands

885
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: right now, Oregon is oh and or sorry, I should say,

886
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Indiana is oh and forty six all time against top

887
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: five teams on the road, own forty six all time.

888
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: And as I say that out loud, Oregon has thrown

889
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: another interception. Indiana has the ball and this game is

890
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: all but over. The Hoosiers are about to beat Oregon

891
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: at Oregon number three. Oregon is about to fall to Indiana.

892
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: That's now a football score. I don't know how to

893
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: process that. This He's buck rising on Jason Fitz I'll

894
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: be honest, I was wrong about this on Fox Sports Radio.

895
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I really thought that Oregon would make a big statement here,

896
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: and I thought that we would find out Indiana was

897
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: just like last year. They've got it's a good team.

898
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: They can explode on anybody. But at the end of

899
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the day, it takes a different level of depth and

900
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: size and speed and all of these things to be

901
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: able to compete, different level of money usually to be

902
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 1: able to compete with some of the best in the nation.

903
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: And now instead Indiana has gone into Oregon and they

904
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: are up thirty to twenty and interception gives them the

905
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: ball back with two minutes to go. They are literally

906
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: in victory formation. This thing's over, Buck, and Indiana has

907
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: just made a statement to everybody. They are a college

908
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: football playoff team. They now have the wiggle room to

909
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: lose games and still end up in the college football

910
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: playoff Like this is a stunning statement of I don't

911
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: care what you think, and I don't care about our

912
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: past today. As of right now, Indiana's a football school.

913
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: Why would you do that?

914
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: Well, they are the fall No.

915
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to celebrate them. I wanted to enjoy it.

916
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 8: I don't like that doesn't mean you can just smack

917
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 8: me across the face with my beloved college basketball blue

918
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 8: blood no longer turning into a football school Like I.

919
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Indiana basketball is fine. I just say Indiana

920
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: football is going to be that.

921
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: It's fine either. It's a four month headache in my life.

922
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: Why the football team can figure this out so quickly

923
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: but the basketball team can't get off its ass is

924
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: incredible to me anyway, So let's be positive about what

925
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: Indiana is doing. Where even are the slip ups for that? Well,

926
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: maybe this is interesting. They host Ucla, who all of

927
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: a sudden is playing like a significantly better football team

928
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: after looking like literally the worst football team in the

929
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: Big Ten for the first month of the season. But

930
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: they are home from Michigan State and Ucla. After this,

931
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: They're at Maryland and at Penn State. Maryland's a little

932
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: frisky this year, home Wisconsin at Purdue to finish out

933
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: the regular season. If they can manage this, unless it's

934
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: just a complete fluke type of situation where they're exhausted

935
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: from a West coast trip, all of a sudden, they're

936
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: playing Michigan State and they just don't have the jew Son,

937
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: something that would be completely inexplicable. There's no good reason

938
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: why Indiana can't win out the rest of its schedule,

939
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: which is an insanity.

940
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: You could be talking about an Indiana team that's undefeated

941
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: and playing in the Big Ten Championship game like that's

942
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: that's wild. At this point, Indiana controls their own destiny

943
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: to get into the Big Ten Championship game and take

944
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: on Ohio State. And again, this is where you look

945
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: at it and say, well, Ohio State will take care

946
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, will they at this point. Look,

947
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: this game has come down to some big plays and

948
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: the final margin is gonna be a little thing, I think,

949
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: a little bigger than the game itself felt at times.

950
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: But if you believe that Oregon has consistently been one

951
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the country, the way this

952
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: game played, just the actual roadmap of this game, you

953
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: have to believe at this point that Indiana is one

954
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: of better teams in the country. Because they went blow

955
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: for both. This wasn't a fluky, weird signetti offense that

956
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: did something cute that nobody expected. This wasn't a oh

957
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: Oregon had a few busted plays defensively, like It was

958
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: none of that. This was two teams that genuinely were

959
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: just throwing haymakers at each other throughout the course of

960
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: this game, and the fact that Indiana held up on

961
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: both lines. This I think is maybe one of the

962
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: most impressive things we've seen all season, because there was

963
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: a very statement answer here of no, we can handle

964
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: upfront whatever you want to send at us, and we

965
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: can handle it the right way. It wasn't even a

966
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: perfect game for Indiana, and they're still in this situation

967
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: where they're up by ten in an already in victory

968
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: formation like this, this is a statement win for the program.

969
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: There's a really famous line from Tony Kornheiser, who has

970
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: of course been on ESPN and a longtime sports writer,

971
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: longtime Washington sports personality. But money is the answer to

972
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: all of your questions. One of my favorite Tony Kornheiser lines.

973
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: That's why they're competing, they're spending, they're investing in the

974
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: football program. And listen, Mark Cuban is not Phil Knight, Like,

975
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: I'm not dealing with Nike money here. But there are

976
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: actual people who care about supporting athletics and boosters who

977
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: care about supporting athletics. Who are going to help create competitive,

978
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: high level college football where the there has not historically been.

979
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: Look at Virginia this year, FITZI, I mean Indiana seems

980
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: to be like now a team or a program rather

981
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: that we're going to have to talk about or that

982
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: we will talk about in terms of, Hey, they're gonna

983
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: be here, They're gonna be in the picture, They're going

984
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: to be competitive every year. We are now going to

985
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: have discussions after the season, again, assuming that they handle business,

986
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: that people stay largely healthy, and that they make it

987
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: to the College Football Playoff after handling what is now

988
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 3: their toughest test or what will be their toughest test

989
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: at Oregon this year. Virginia has just done something similar

990
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: this year where they've got an upset on Florida State,

991
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: and now Florida State looks a little bit more hollow

992
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 3: these last few weeks, but still like you can create

993
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: this stuff in places where historically college football has not

994
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: been great and grow college football as a result.

995
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: I think it's awesome.

996
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: I really Again, I'm not going to pretend like I'm

997
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: a diehard Indiana who's your football fan? Because I went

998
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: to Indiana and that's where my degree is from that

999
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: program has been an afterthought for its entire existence. But

1000
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: I think it's really special when you show a fan

1001
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: proof of concept and say, no, we're really going to

1002
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: support it this time. We're really going to do this

1003
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: the way that high level, high major college football programs do,

1004
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: and we're going to show you the results as they go.

1005
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Indiana's proving it week by week. To their credit. It's

1006
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: a just a great it's a great sports story.

1007
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: You also have to have smart football minds in the room.

1008
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look, North Carolina football has become one of

1009
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: the biggest jokes in all of sports. And whether you

1010
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: blame Bill Belichick on that for being distracted, or whether

1011
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: you blame Mike Lombardi, the longtime right hand man of

1012
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, that is sort of the main guy accumulating

1013
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: that talent. No matter how you want to look at it,

1014
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: North Carolina has been an epic fail, even though they

1015
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: tried to invest money. And it comes back to something

1016
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Nick Sabman said on game day last year that always

1017
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: gets stuck in my head. They talk about how much

1018
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: money is going to different players, and Saban said, He's like,

1019
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: you know, that's great. If you spend the money on

1020
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: the right guys. If you don't, you're screwed. And there

1021
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: is some element of that that it isn't. The most

1022
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: empowering thing about college athletics to me right now is

1023
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: that if you choose to, you can simply just invest

1024
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: money and you can turn your program around. But you

1025
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: have to invest the money smart like you have intelligently right.

1026
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: You have to put it into players that can actually

1027
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: become difference makers. You have to put it into a

1028
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: coach that actually is worth the money that he gets.

1029
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: And that's the role of that. I said that I

1030
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: don't want to undersell Buck because you're right, Like, it's

1031
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: awesome that Indiana is so relevant in college football. Indiana

1032
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: is relevant in college football because they have put some

1033
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: money behind the program, because they are paying a coach

1034
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: that is worth every penny at Kurt Signetti, worth every

1035
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: dollar that he's getting in it, and because they've done

1036
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: a good job evaluating talent talent in the transferporter. Their

1037
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: sales pitch to get Mendoza to come over as a

1038
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: quarterback is one that every single program in college football

1039
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: could have made. So there is this equal playing field.

1040
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Everybody could have made it. So whatever they're doing to identify,

1041
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: sell and then put that those guys in the right position.

1042
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to undersell that because it's not as

1043
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: simple as stack your bank account. You actually have to

1044
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: do something right with the money when you get it well.

1045
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: And that's the fascination to me.

1046
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: And we've talked about this before in different context, but

1047
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: like the sustainability of this, how sustainable is it? Because

1048
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna have like we deal with free agency, like

1049
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: we deal with draft busts for lack of a better term,

1050
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: or just draft picks that just generally don't meet expectation.

1051
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: You don't have to go to the extreme of bust,

1052
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: even though there are those two. The idea that there

1053
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: are going to be years where you just get it wrong,

1054
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: you're not going to have perfect evaluations year over year,

1055
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: and how you make up for that as a coaching staff,

1056
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: how you get through those trying times I'm curious to

1057
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: see again because Kurtzignetti is not like a long term thing.

1058
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: This is the thing that I think Dabbo was trying

1059
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: to get the point across a couple of weeks ago

1060
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: when he was having his diatribes at the podium and

1061
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: talking about he's just now fifty five. He's just now

1062
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 3: getting ramped up as a coach. Kurtzignetti is sixty one.

1063
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: He's just arrived at Big ten, Power four or college

1064
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: football this way, and I don't know what he is

1065
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: going to view this opportunity as, but if he wants

1066
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: to turn Indiana into a legitimate college football power, he

1067
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 3: has the ability to do so because they're backing him

1068
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: the way that those programs need to be appropriately backed.

1069
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you saw at some point, whether

1070
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: you were covering it for Yahoo Sports Daily or just

1071
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: kind of doom scrolling on Twitter. FITZI when the athletic

1072
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: director of Arkansas in the press conference where they're talking

1073
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 3: about firing Sam or where they have fired Sam Pittman

1074
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: has asked a question about resources. Did Sam Pittman have

1075
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 3: the necessary resources to compete at a high enough level

1076
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: in the SEC? And the athletic director frankly and smartly

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Speaker 3: took the opportunity to say, well, no, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, in not so many terms and I'm paraphrasing

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00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: here slightly, but to just basically say, yeah, we didn't

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Speaker 3: have enough. Like if you want to be notre dame,

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00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: if you want to be if you want to be Alabama,

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00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: if you want to be Auburn, Florida, whatever. Those things

1083
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: aren't going to be perfect and they're not all successful.

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Speaker 3: But we need more money here to compete at that level.

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00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: And it's reductive to boil it down to just that,

1086
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 3: but you have to find ways. There's no perfect balance.

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Speaker 2: Right. You're going to miss on years in the portal.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have recruits that don't pan out to

1089
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: their five star expectations or what have you. But coaching

1090
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: can still make up for that. And that's what Kurt

1091
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: Signety and Indiana are doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And part of the reason that

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00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I think this becomes sustainable for right now for Indiana

1094
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: is because he's done it back to back years with

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00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: different players. And you know, when we've talked in the

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00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: past about Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt, and the question is, well,

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00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: is Vanderbilt a new football program that's going to sustain

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00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: or is this just a cute one year or two years.

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00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I think you got to see it with another quarterback, right,

1100
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: You got to see that extra person come in and say, Okay,

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00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: I understand where we're going. I think that there's a sustainability.

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Speaker 1: If you're Indiana and you're doing it now with so

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00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: many players that are different than that you did it

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00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: with last year, now it becomes part of your sales pitch. Hey,

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00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: this is who Indiana football is moving forward, as opposed

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00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: to having one great year where you know, Washington had

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00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: a great year where okay, you had a coach, but

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00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: you also had Michael Pennings junior and you had Romaduonze

1109
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: and you have all these people on one team. Well, okay,

1110
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: you went to a national championship with that. That's hard

1111
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: to repeat over and over and over again. I think

1112
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: the biggest key for Indiana in winning a game like

1113
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: today is that it just becomes a message to recruits.

1114
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: Come here and you're going to be part of something explosive.

1115
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: Come here and you have a shot to win the

1116
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: Big ten. Come here and we can still pipeline you.

1117
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: But also we can not only pipeline you to the NFL.

1118
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: We can make you successful. We can make you a

1119
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: household name here. There's so much power to that sales

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00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: pitch that that's why these moments are so significant, not

1121
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: just for the win and what it means for the

1122
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: college football landscape. This year, but for the overall, you

1123
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: have to take Indiana football seriously for the next ten years.

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00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Conversation day like today, does that.

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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: Valls by the way pulling away?

1126
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: It was a close game, It was a tide game,

1127
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 3: but Arkansas has not scored since then. It's twenty seven

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00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: to seventeen, late in the third quarter at this point

1129
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: in time, FITZI just talking about programs and expectations and

1130
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: opportunities to build. What Kirby Smart has built at Georgia

1131
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 3: is impressive, but they are four and one. They're going

1132
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: to Auburn here in just about fifteen minutes. I believe

1133
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: that game is about to kick off and get underway.

1134
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: And I'm so curious to see how the conversation changes

1135
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: around programs like Georgia, where there are these new arrivals

1136
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: and where their model is less sustainable than it has been.

1137
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: And I don't have any doubts in my mind that

1138
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: Kirby Smart and Georgia are going to find ways to adapt,

1139
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: because literally, the only thing that they care about is

1140
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: as an athletic department, whether they're saying it publicly or not,

1141
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: is football. They are going to pour as many resources

1142
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: as can be poured into that football program, whether it

1143
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: be legally or illegally, how Kirby Smart is viewed in

1144
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: a situation like this, because Auburn, Auburn's just kind of

1145
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: a weird college football team. No matter who the coaches

1146
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: or who's on the team, they're due for a weird

1147
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: one on the planes. It's one of the more popular

1148
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: upset picks of the week, Auburn over number ten Georgia

1149
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: three and two. Auburn hosting Georgia here in just a

1150
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: few minutes from now, and I'm curious to see how

1151
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: narratives change around those two coaches depending on what this

1152
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: outcome is.

1153
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is alarming, how what you said just it

1154
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: matters like narratives around some of these coaches. It's really

1155
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: difficult to figure out short term. Long term. I think

1156
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: college football is more and more like the NFL, love

1157
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: it or hated. College football is more and more like

1158
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, where we want to make sweeping commentaries after

1159
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: every week, and I think it just takes longer to know.

1160
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: But there are certain teams I get it. I understand

1161
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: the Georgia losing Tobama is the sort of thing that

1162
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: just takes the wins out of the sales. But this

1163
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: is where I'm the one guy that covers college football

1164
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: that constantly wants to remind people these rivalry moments don't

1165
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: really matter. They do, but like, what's going to matter?

1166
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: What's really going to change the way Indiana, for example,

1167
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: is forever perceived is go get to a national championship game,

1168
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: not even win it. Go get to a national championship game.

1169
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the court of public opinion. Because he's

1170
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz When we come back, one

1171
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: of the biggest names in college football is absolutely on

1172
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: the hot seat today. We'll break it down with all

1173
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: the college football action. We'll do it next Bucking Fits

1174
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, in a few years we're

1175
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna be saying, who the hell is James Franklin. Just

1176
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: a brutal, brutal day for Penn State football. The unranked

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Speaker 1: dot com. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzpenn State lost

1184
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: at home to Northwestern today. Drew Aller, James Franklin has

1185
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: confirmed is now out for the season with the season

1186
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: ending ankle injury. So somebody that had a lot of

1187
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: draft to hope and promise played a little bit this

1188
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: year for a team that looked absolutely horrific, and State

1189
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: has now lost three straight games. It's not just a

1190
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: loss to Oregon at home, it's also turning around and

1191
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: then losing in the middle of that to UCLA, which

1192
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: by the way, looks like a much better football team today.

1193
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Could have had some hope and joy, but then you

1194
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: came back home and you lost by one to Northwestern.

1195
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: Just an absolute epic meltdown in Happy Valley, and Buck,

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00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. This is where people will

1197
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: talk about buyouts. I think buyouts are funny money. College

1198
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: programs can make that money wherever they want to, especially

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Speaker 1: programs like Penn State. I just don't know how James

1200
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: Franklin comes back from this one, because the argument has

1201
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: been he can't win the big one. That's fine, well,

1202
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: now he's lost two straight little ones, and that is

1203
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: just that's not going to be fine for Penn State fans.

1204
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: I saw the jokes being made last week. I'm sure

1205
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: they're back again this week about James Franklin playing checkers

1206
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: not chess, en route to losing the teams, that he

1207
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: is an underdog too. Anyway, now he's just losing as

1208
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: a favorite in these games. His buyout, and I'm looking

1209
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: this up now as we sit here, is who. So

1210
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: the contract was ten years, eighty five million dollars. The

1211
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: exact figure, not that there's estimated figures of about fifty

1212
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: six million, is what it would cost to buy them out.

1213
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 2: Now that's a huge number.

1214
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: And I understand what you're saying about monopoly money, and listen,

1215
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: in the world of Jimbo Fisher buyouts, fifty six million

1216
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 3: no longer raises raises as many alarms as it used

1217
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: to because of the outrageous amount of money the college

1218
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 3: football coaches are making now Alur and again, it may

1219
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: be the severity of the injury. I don't want to speculate,

1220
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: and it would be pure speculation, but if Allur's injury

1221
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: is significant enough and Penn State is obviously going nowhere.

1222
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what do you do if you're Drew

1223
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: allur like, does it benefit you to try and just

1224
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: declare for the draft at whatever point you feel I mean,

1225
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: now that is college football season is over. He has

1226
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 3: eligibility left. If I'm not mistaken, I don't know what

1227
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: benefits Drew Aler most here. I imagine he can still

1228
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: make money, meaningful money at Penn State. But there are

1229
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: a few people save Arch Manning, that have hurt themselves

1230
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 3: as draft prospects more than the Penn State quarterback.

1231
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at some point you just got to

1232
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: get yourself out and in the process, especially in a

1233
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: year in a world where no quarterback has really separated

1234
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: himself this year, I feel like there's a good opportunity

1235
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: if you're talking about who's going to be the first

1236
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: quarterback selected in the NFL draft next year. We talked

1237
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: about Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback in Indiana. A lot of

1238
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: people really like him. There have been several smart football

1239
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: people that have said Drewaler is much higher on draft

1240
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: boards than people realize. Outside of that and what was

1241
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be the savior of quarterback classes, Arch Manning

1242
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't look like he's even gonna come out, and

1243
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: if he does come out, and he doesn't look like

1244
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: he's the savior of much even if he did have

1245
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: a better game today, Garrett Nusmeyer, is that like a

1246
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: guy that you really want to build your sellers? Had

1247
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: some nice moments, but I don't know, like, it doesn't

1248
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like there's a shorefire. Oh my god, this guy

1249
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: is him at the quarterback position, and we always know

1250
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: that there's half a dozen quarterback desperate teams in the

1251
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I think Drew Aller has to look at

1252
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: it and say, man, what's worse putting more stuff? Like

1253
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: the whole issue you have, as I've mentioned before, when

1254
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: your favorite band just starts putting out, you know, record

1255
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: after record that sucks, and then they're not your favorite

1256
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: band anymore, and you're like, oh, what do I do

1257
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: with the fact that I really liked the first three

1258
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: records and everything since then it has sucked. That's like

1259
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: college football. What do you do if it's like every

1260
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: single time you step on the floor on the field,

1261
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: you're only making your life more difficult because analysts are

1262
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: getting more film and it doesn't really look as good

1263
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: like that's the risk for guys that play eight thousand

1264
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: years at college football, and it feels like that's more

1265
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: of a risk for Drew Aller right now because it

1266
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: just hasn't looked good all year for ben State.

1267
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Speaker 3: The other part of this is because I think people

1268
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: make too much about the idea of firing a coach

1269
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: in season. I understand that there's not a lot of

1270
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 3: things that it necessarily helps, but there are there have

1271
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: been enough of these instances where there there do tend

1272
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: to be there are more boosts from a coaching change

1273
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: in season from just that specific teams in season results

1274
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: than you might imagine there to be, because obviously, as

1275
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: you well know, fits, I've had that conversation plenty in

1276
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: Nashville doing the local show covering the Tennessee Titans, given

1277
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: the state of their roster and the embattled nature of

1278
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: the coach that now is overseeing the development of this

1279
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: year's at number one overall draft pick for for Penn State,

1280
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: like firing James Franklin in season, is an interesting approach

1281
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna assume and I should maybe I shouldn't

1282
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: make these assumptions. I feel like administrators and in the

1283
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: same way that coaches get more credit than they deserve

1284
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: a lot of times, I think administrators and administrators get

1285
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: more credit than they deserve as well. I'm gonna assume, though,

1286
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: that they have an idea of who they would replace

1287
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Speaker 3: James Franklin with today, Like I'm assuming that they would

1288
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: have some options there, some considerations being given, some people,

1289
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: a list of people that they would call should they

1290
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Speaker 3: make a coaching change. Fifty six million, Again, it's an

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01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: estimated figure. Is that too big a bullet for Penn

1292
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: State to bite? I don't know, but I think that

1293
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: if you're looking for an easy way out of this thing,

1294
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: what I have to imagine that there's a good deal

1295
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: of people in Happy Valley that are just completely fine

1296
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 3: with moving on from James Franklin. If he's no longer

1297
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: if the message is no longer getting home, and you're

1298
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: in a situation where you're getting ready to bottom out,

1299
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: I think it's okay to make that move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the NFL is a lot different

1301
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: than what we see in college football because you got

1302
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, what, like, what's the purpose of getting

1303
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: rid of your coach mid season? Well, I think part

1304
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: of the purpose of getting rid of your coach. Mid

1305
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: season in college football is when you know that that

1306
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: coach is likely on the hot seat. It gets used

1307
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: against you in recruiting so much. There's this element for

1308
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: me of, hey, if you get people out, you can

1309
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: start to figure out who's going to come in. You

1310
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: can start to work your back channels. I'm figuring out

1311
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: what the next coach is going to look like. You

1312
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: can essentially say, hey, what's been State fighting for at

1313
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: this point? A bowl game? Who cares about a bowl game?

1314
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: Get ahead of whatever the future of the roster looks like.

1315
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: And in order to do that, I think you really

1316
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: have to be prepared, even if you don't do it

1317
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: until the end of the season. You need to be

1318
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: able to make a move incredibly quickly on who your

1319
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: next coach is going to be, so that you're ahead

1320
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: of all of the people that are going to hit

1321
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, so that you're ahead of all of

1322
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: the conversation around recruiting. Like, those are the opportunities that

1323
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: come from making a quick and decisive decision when it

1324
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: comes to the head coaching position in college football. So

1325
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: I actually like an in season move in college football

1326
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: more than I do in the NFL. In the NFL,

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01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: everybody seems to have some outside chance of the playoffs,

1328
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: and maybe if you get in the playoffs, you can

1329
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: do something weird, maybe things can break differently. I just

1330
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,479
Speaker 1: don't think that there's anything that can be done now

1331
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: that puts Penn State in a situation with three losses.

1332
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: There is nothing they can do the rest of the

1333
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: year that will put them into college football playoffs. So

1334
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: they are literally playing for absolutely nothing the rest of

1335
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: the year other than pride, and pride isn't gonna matter

1336
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: after the season is over. So go ahead and get

1337
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: out there and get your first steps towards figuring out

1338
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: what the future of your football program looks like.

1339
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Speaker 3: Right now, the one thing that can be done that

1340
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: is inevitable is Martin Weiss with some updates on what's

1341
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: going on in the rest of college falling around the

1342
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: sports world.

1343
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 7: We'll start over in your neck of the woods, Tennessee.

1344
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 7: Right now, the twelve ranked team in college football with

1345
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 7: a thirty four to twenty four lead over Arkansas eight

1346
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 7: minutes left in the fourth quarter, eight minutes left in

1347
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Speaker 7: the first quarter of Florida and Texas, A and M

1348
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 7: this one all tied up at seven earlier today and

1349
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Speaker 7: some top twenty five results we had. Ohio they beat

1350
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 7: Illinois thirty four to sixteen. Indiana just beat Oregon thirty

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01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 7: to twenty, Oregon losing at home. As the number three

1352
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 7: ranked team in the nation, the Hoosiers the seventh Indiana

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 7: remaining undefeated Ole Miss. I mean it took a lot

1354
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 7: to good bass Washington State today, who fell to three

1355
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 7: and three Old miss undefeated, the fourth ring team in

1356
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Speaker 7: the nation, goes six to oh twenty four to twenty one.

1357
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 7: Texas goes to four and two. Oklahoma drops their first

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Speaker 7: game of the year in the Redd River rivalry, twenty

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Speaker 7: three to six. The final score there. Alabama twenty seven

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01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 7: to twenty four over Missouri and a ranked SEC matchup

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Speaker 7: Georgia Tech. They are also undefeated three and O and

1362
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 7: ACC play as well, thirteenth ranked team in the nation

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Speaker 7: with a thirty five to twenty win over Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Two and five for the Hokies on the year.

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Speaker 7: Notre Dame with a thirty six to seven win over

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Speaker 7: NC State for a fourth consecutive win for the Fighting Irish,

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Speaker 7: who started out zero to two. Colorado with a twenty

1368
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Speaker 7: four to seventeen win over twenty second ranked in Colorado,

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Speaker 7: I mean Iowa State and Pittsburgh beat Florida thirty four

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Speaker 7: to thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Florida started in Florida, st Florida.

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Speaker 7: State, I'm sorry, started out the year with that win

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Speaker 7: over Alabama and now falls to zero to three in

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01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 7: conference play. Elsewhere in the Big Ten, Iowa and Wiscon

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Speaker 7: send the Hawkeyes with a three to nothing lead. Just

1376
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 7: put a Fueld goal through the uprights just under five

1377
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 7: minutes left in the first quarter. You can find that

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01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 7: one on FS one. And just got news coming down

1379
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 7: from Adam Schefter and others that Drew Aller will be

1380
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 7: missing the remainder of his season after the injury that

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 7: they suffered that he suffered in Penn State's lost to

1382
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Speaker 7: Northwestern today. So the losses keep mounting for the nitty

1383
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Speaker 7: Lyons and James Franklin back to you guys.

1384
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1385
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1393
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Speaker 1: the I Heart app. Buck just explain this to me,

1394
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: make this make sense. Why has Indiana been able to

1395
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: figure out how to build a relevant playoff caliber football

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: team and Penn State hasn't. Like I don't want to

1397
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: oversimplify here, but allow me to oversimplify. Penn State just

1398
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: lost their third game of the year. Penn State has

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Speaker 1: the resources, everything that Indiana has, Penn State has right, So,

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Speaker 1: how in the hell are we living in a world

1401
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: right now where Indiana has figured out how to be

1402
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: competitive year out and year in and year out, and

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: Penn State hasn't. How are we living in a world

1404
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: where it just Nebraska can't quite figure it out, Wisconsin

1405
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: can't figure it out at all, Michigan State can't figure

1406
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: it out at all, Iowa can't figure it out at all.

1407
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: Like we can go up and down the list of

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Speaker 1: teams that for years were just they were around the

1409
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: conversation of quality football programs that now are bordering somewhere

1410
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: between irrelevant and bad. And I'm watching Indiana just truck

1411
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: it out here and be like, no, we got to

1412
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: figure it out.

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Speaker 3: I just so the environment has never been more I mean,

1414
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: for lack of a better term, ripe to create a

1415
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: situation like Indiana's, right, Like, you've never had more ability

1416
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: at your disposal, more tools at your disposal to create

1417
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 3: a situation like Indiana's.

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Speaker 2: That can be true.

1419
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: What also can be true is that it is a

1420
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: very specific confluence of things that have come together at

1421
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 3: Indiana to make that successful. Because what did you point

1422
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 3: out earlier, Fitzi, when we were talking about coaching, that

1423
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: there are a great many coaches who are not good

1424
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: at this, like just generally are below standard. In fact,

1425
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 3: there are probably there are more bad coaches working in

1426
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: college football or high school football or the NFL than good.

1427
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: I think you start to weed things out. I think

1428
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: there is some level of quality control as you get

1429
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: to higher levels of college football and pro football. But

1430
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: still doesn't mean that these people are completely qualified or

1431
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: beyond reprieve from doing their jobs in a better way.

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Speaker 2: So is Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 3: Just because we've seen him, and I understand that he's

1434
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: had more stop than just Indiana these last two seasons

1435
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: or this season and a half that.

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Speaker 2: Needs that he's now on.

1437
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: But has Kurt Signetti accomplished in his time his short

1438
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: time in power for football more than James Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Well, Okay, I mean it's close. It's close, Like James

1441
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: Franklin has done things.

1442
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 3: Listen, James Franklin had a turn around at Vanderbilt that

1443
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 3: should be praised and commended. It got him the job

1444
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: at Penn State. That's not quite what's happening in Indiana.

1445
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: But still do we know what the I know Vandery's

1446
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: moving different these days, but we know what the standard

1447
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: at football or for football at Vanderbilt has been, and

1448
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: it has been just horrendously poor, just disinterest, apathy everywhere.

1449
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: James Franklin brought life out of that. He has had

1450
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: success at Penn State. They were a college football playoff team.

1451
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: So I think it's a closer conversation. I think the

1452
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: knee jerk reaction would be to say, yes, Signetti's a

1453
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: better coach. There's a larger sample size of James Franklin.

1454
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: I think though, that Signetti has done more for his

1455
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 3: program in that short time than James Franklin has at

1456
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 3: any of his stops. Because of the environment that's now

1457
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: been created, I'm honestly shocked. And maybe it's just because

1458
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 3: I thought Luke Fickele was a better than average coach,

1459
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: but I'm stunned at how badly things have gone for

1460
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: him at Wisconsin. I didn't think that Luke fickel was

1461
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 3: a bad coach or couldn't adapt to the new world

1462
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: of college football. I also understand that there's some resources

1463
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: issues at Wisconsin that are probably similar to Arkansas, and

1464
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: I think Arkansas still has more money. Right, These things

1465
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: require context for each specific situation. I just think that Indiana,

1466
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: you're going to have people who try and chase this,

1467
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: and there will be some people and some programs that

1468
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: accomplish it at a reasonable level. But what we're watching

1469
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,480
Speaker 3: is a very very specific thing. Or do you disagree?

1470
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: No, I think it is a very specific thing, and

1471
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to find a Kurtz Signetti. That's the real

1472
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: answer here. As much as we laugh about some of

1473
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: the brazen Google Me moments from last year, and Indiana

1474
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: wasn't quite to compete with the Notre Dames of the world.

1475
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: Last year, that's okay. This year they are like, that's

1476
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: what they proved today, right, And I've often oft said

1477
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: that you have to turn around and thank you, thank

1478
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: you very much. I've often said, especially in the modern

1479
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: college football environment, you better take advantage of the year

1480
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: that you have because with the transfer portal being the

1481
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: way it is, it's tougher and tougher to sustain anything.

1482
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: It's tougher and tougher year in and year out to

1483
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: actually say this is the new norm for this program.

1484
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: But I do think that when you stack what they

1485
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: did today against Oregon versus what we've seen in over

1486
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 1: the course of the last thirteen fourteen months from Indiana,

1487
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: it's impossible not to catch the conversation differently. I just

1488
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: I think it is impossible right now not to look

1489
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: at it and say, Okay, you're right. James Franklin certainly

1490
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: got Penn State some big wins in the College Football

1491
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: Playoff last year. I don't want to take anything away

1492
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: from that, but when's the last time you felt like

1493
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: James Franklin opened a basket of ingredients, had lesser ingredients

1494
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: and made a better dinner. Than whoever he was cooking

1495
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: against and chopped, And I feel like there is some

1496
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: element of that's exactly what Signetti did last year and

1497
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: now this year. Maybe what I haven't given enough credit to,

1498
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: to be fair, is maybe the ingredients of baskets in

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Speaker 1: Indiana is a hell of a lot better than I thought. Like,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's already now he's cooking with the basket of

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Speaker 1: level ingredients. And if that's the case, Man, if you

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Speaker 1: could win and you just Monoymano with Oregon, who I

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01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: think is a wildly talented football team throughout the course

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: of that game, and you just go blow for blow

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: with them, and you go yard for yard with them

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: over and over and over, Man, it does it changes

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: the way I see how you play football moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean it matters a great deal in

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 3: the recruiting landscape, right because their success has been portaling

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: guys and bringing in vets and finding quarterback play that

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: would be above average than just your five star coming in, right, Like,

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: I do think that the opportunity to have a veteran

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Speaker 3: within the context of college football, a veteran quarterback coming

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: in there to stabilize things matters as well.

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Speaker 2: Also, something that.

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Speaker 3: We neglected to mention in the middle of that FITSI

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza is being talked about as potentially one of

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Speaker 3: the first, if not the first quarterback that can be

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Speaker 3: taken in the NFL draft, one of the first quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: that can be taken in this year's NFL draft. And

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Speaker 3: I know that it's not a stellar NFL draft class

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: as far as the quarterbacks go, but still that matters here.

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01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 3: So for Signetti, it's to me about and we have

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01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: this conversation obviously at the pro level too, and I've

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: been having that conversation a lot because of Brian Callahan's

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: missteps are his staff's missteps, which ultimately he is responsible for.

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Speaker 3: How are you a plus on the sideline for your

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 3: team as a coach? What makes you an advantage? Do

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: you know the rule book better than your opposition? Do

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: you know the rule book as well as the officials?

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: Do you have the ability to call plays that would

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Speaker 3: make you a plus, that would make you above average

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 3: based on your offensive minded head coaches who are there

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: to assist in certain kind of ways, Like, what it

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: is it that differentiates you from your competition as the

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01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 3: head coach of a football team? Beyond quote unquote leader

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: of men, Signetti has done more in that. From my

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01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 3: vantage point, he seems to have accomplished more other than

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 3: being the rally raw ra guy that James Franklin is.

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: He seems to have accomplished more in his short time

1541
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: in helping his team and supporting his team, and that

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: is in part a reason why they win. But they

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: have to improve in recruiting. It's the talent profile is

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: going to be tough. They're never going to compete with

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: the likes of the SEC. But if they can compete

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 3: with the Oregon and Ohio State and things like that,

1547
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: you can turn this into a real thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some numbers in just a second. First,

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: I want to tell you if you missed any of

1550
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: today's show you want to catch the pod, just search

1551
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. Right after

1552
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: the show the pod goes up. You can follow the

1553
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: podcast rate of five stars. You can even provide a review.

1554
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1555
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: you get your podcast, you'll find today's full show posted

1556
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: right after we get off the air. Kevin Clark, my

1557
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: great buddy at ESPN, posted this on this on Twitter

1558
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: about twenty eight minutes ago. I will read this to

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: you in its entirety. Indiana has zero five stars, seven

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01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: four stars, and according to the two four to seven

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 1: Talent Composite, the seventy second most talented roster in the sport,

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01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: three spots behind Boston College. That Signetti has built a

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: national contender. There is astounding one of the best coaching

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: jobs in my lifetime. Dude's a cheat code. Say what

1565
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: we want, dudes a cheat code. However, he gets him in,

1566
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: he gets him in, and whatever he's doing with him

1567
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: is making a hit different because today that did not

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01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: look like the seventy second most talented roster in the sport.

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: Today that looked like if you just took the jerseys off,

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01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 1: you would have no damn clue which team was Oregon

1571
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: and which team was Indiana. And that's a statement to

1572
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: where Indiana football is. We're gonna play the best game

1573
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: show in the history of sports talk radio coming up next.

1574
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: Would you rather hitting me? His buck Rising Up Jason

1575
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio Buck Rising. I'm

1576
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: Jason fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. Hanging out

1577
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 1: with you. Been a while day, Penn State loses to Northwestern.

1578
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: We'll see what that means for James Franklin. That hot

1579
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: seats only gonna get hotter. Texas beats Oklahoma in the

1580
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: Red River rivalry, beats the snot out of them, might

1581
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: I add, And then the big shaker for many, the

1582
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: shaker for many, Oregon falls to Indiana. So already a

1583
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: massive day of consequence all over the place, and we've

1584
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: barely gotten the night games kicked off. There's explosiveness everywhere.

1585
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: Keeping eye on that USC Michigan game. That one's gonna

1586
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: be pretty interesting, good offense versus good defense. But in

1587
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: the meantime, Buck, it is time for the single greatest

1588
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: game show in the history of all sports talk radio.

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you ready, sir? Or we got this?

1590
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: We got this? We feel good.

1591
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

1592
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for.

1593
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: Wood wod you you rare?

1594
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, what do you mean?

1595
01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 9: What?

1596
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: Or fix it?

1597
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 3: I think they're delaying us on purpose, that's what they

1598
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: may sound about on purpose. So fine they they haven't

1599
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: spoken to us all show. They've just been back there conspiring.

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: We're finding Ian Mary don't hear a whistle. I don't know.

1601
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: She just mutant. There's a full mutiny. There's a full

1602
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: mutiny on the fine system.

1603
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 3: The arrogance in his voice when he said, I don't

1604
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: hear a whistle.

1605
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my dog, the audacity I can. That's right.

1606
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 9: All right, let's spin the wheels so we can get

1607
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 9: this stupid game started.

1608
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh, get it.

1609
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: Over with already enough enough of you.

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: Too, Okay, I found my own whistle sound effect. I'm

1611
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna be really, I'm sorry.

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 9: Would you would you rather always have to announce your

1613
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 9: arrival like a pro wrestler or always have a theme

1614
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 9: music fading dramatically every time you sit down?

1615
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,440
Speaker 2: Every time you sit down.

1616
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 9: Sit down in a chair.

1617
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: Yes, that's an odd situation. It's not necessarily offensive. It's

1618
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: not like you're making an unpleasant sound. It's just theme

1619
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: music as you sit I think I would like my

1620
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: presence announced. So I'm announcing my own presence like a

1621
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: professional wrestler.

1622
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 9: Yes, exactly, it's you.

1623
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of do that anyway.

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: I'll take that. No, I want the theme music. I

1625
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: want to sit down because the theme music fading in

1626
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: and out makes it feel like after I've sat there's

1627
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: a moment where you have to honor my presence at

1628
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: the table, like, Hey, just gonna be thirty music, thirty

1629
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: seconds of music. We can't talk over it, like this

1630
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: is my moment. Everybody just takes sat plus. Like as

1631
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: much as we think about the ring announcers from old

1632
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: school wrestling, like, that's not what I think of when

1633
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: I think of Macha man coming to the ring. I

1634
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: think of the dun dun dun da da da da

1635
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: da d d like the popping circumstance thing. That's what

1636
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: I think. I want that. I want the music to

1637
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: play when I sit. Also, I liked it it's playing

1638
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: after I sit, because then, uncomfortably, we all have to

1639
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: look at each other until the music actually stops. It's

1640
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: it's just that's great. And then he's like, how was

1641
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: your day? How was your day?

1642
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1643
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 3: Hover, you hover, you don't fully take your seat, so

1644
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: the music stays a little longer.

1645
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: Linker, Oh yeah, I like that. I like that.

1646
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: I like And then if somebody's just really pissing you off,

1647
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: you just stand up and sit back down in the

1648
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: middle of them talking because now you know the theme

1649
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: music is going to come in again. I'm all in

1650
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: on this. Give it to me it's like a unlessian

1651
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do this now since apparently there's a

1652
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: full mutiny.

1653
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: What do you got? It's a stupid game. He said

1654
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: he didn't want to play the game Spin a wheel.

1655
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: No, I didn't need to get fined for that.

1656
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: By the way, all this game stupid and there's a

1657
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: little bit of truth in everything.

1658
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: All right.

1659
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 9: Uh, would you rather your favorite snack always be slightly

1660
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 9: stale or your favorite drink always be slightly warm?

1661
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 3: I'll say stale. I can get by like stale crackers.

1662
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 3: I can live with stale marshmallows. I could live with. Uh,

1663
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 3: there's probably more wiggle room with a stale snack than

1664
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: a warm drink. I don't want a warm dri like

1665
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to warm.

1666
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 9: Let's like, coffee is your favorite drink and it's a

1667
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 9: little bit of Coffee.

1668
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: Is my favorite drink by default. It is the thing

1669
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 3: by volume that I drink the most of. But like,

1670
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: sometimes I just want to crisp cold coke diesel and

1671
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 3: if it's slightly warmer room temperature, that's just not going

1672
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: to satisfy me.

1673
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: Coffee is my favorite drink too, but iced coffee is

1674
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: all I drink. You around, even when it's you know,

1675
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: two feet of snow in Connecticut, I'm still drinking iced

1676
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: coffee in between shovel it out, so like, yeah, n freaks,

1677
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: give me, give me all day, every day. I'll take

1678
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: the stale snacks. Also, I was a fat kid growing up,

1679
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: Like I shovel snacks like a fat kin. I'm not

1680
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: chewing it long enough to find out exactly how stale

1681
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: it is, Like I am just I am shoveling that,

1682
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't go hidyan, let's get another one here

1683
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: unless you don't help it.

1684
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: We're protesting you, yeah, showing him.

1685
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,520
Speaker 9: Okay, would you rather only be able to whisper compliments

1686
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 9: and shout apologies or the other way around, only be

1687
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 9: able to shout compliments and whisper apologies?

1688
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: No, look, actually, you know what, I want to whisper

1689
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: apologies because I don't want the person i'm apologizing to

1690
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: to know if I'm actually sincere. So if I have

1691
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: to walk up and say I'm so sorry I called

1692
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: you fat today, that's just feels creepy enough, but I'm

1693
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: in on that.

1694
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: What do you think a whisper apologies? I don't like

1695
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: to apologize. I would like my apologies to be as

1696
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 3: minimal as humanly possible. I'm sensing a theme here, but.

1697
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 9: Through shouting compliments. With that option though, because so then

1698
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 9: it's like when you tell someone they look nice today.

1699
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 9: You're shouting it for the whole room to hear, would you.

1700
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: If they are in the compliment, then that means they

1701
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: deserve it. I'll shout it from the rooftops.

1702
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: All I know is I'm only whispering to Ian for

1703
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the show. Have a great night, I

1704
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Come back next week. More bucking fits