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Speaker 3: The love of a mother is unlike any other. Tommy

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Speaker 4: His story is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: It also solidifies the fact that he is a legend,

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, welcome to a new edition of Naked You know,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to do a little news update and I

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Speaker 3: received a few messages about the Alabama Brawl. I talked

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Speaker 3: about that last week before we interviewed Stephanie Mills. Made

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Speaker 3: it out. One of my favorite podcasts. I'm so hot

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Speaker 3: on Brooklyn, Like I can't get off Brooklyn. I'm from California,

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Speaker 3: before we get into Tommy Davidson, Uh, the iconic comedian

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Speaker 3: She Carrie Richardson is now the newly minted one hundred

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Speaker 3: She had just declared that she was going to turn

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Speaker 3: what ensued after that was a combination of social media hype.

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Speaker 3: How come the black girls getting vilified? Why isn't she

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Speaker 3: So why was I so disappointed that Shakiri was trying

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Speaker 3: Her name is Kendrick Carter. She's been in the world

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Speaker 1: called in Living Color.

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Speaker 2: And I lift it, see I lift.

439
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Speaker 1: It, and I know it. I know what it's about.

440
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Speaker 1: And I got a lot of insight on real love

441
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Speaker 1: because people could say, you know, you heard it. Seems

442
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Speaker 1: like you hear it a lot. You know, love ain't

443
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Speaker 1: got no color.

444
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Speaker 2: You know. Well, if you really really look at it,

445
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Speaker 2: it don't.

446
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Speaker 1: But you really got to look at it from a

447
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Speaker 1: very fundamental, elementary point of view.

448
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what it is.

449
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: When a tribe or whatever you want to call in

450
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Speaker 1: the village of whatever, way way back, okay, came across

451
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Speaker 1: another group of people. The women from that color tribe said,

452
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Speaker 1: those men look pretty good, and the men from there said,

453
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Speaker 1: those women look pretty good.

454
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Speaker 2: V'stly we all look different, m hm. So I don't

455
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Speaker 2: know we love each other, but we love something.

456
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Speaker 4: We love something because everybody is the same.

457
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Speaker 2: I want you.

458
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Speaker 4: I'm really really curious you now have.

459
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Speaker 3: I feel like, not necessarily it's a full circle moment,

460
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Speaker 3: but growing up in d C, where you learn the

461
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Speaker 3: good and the bad of what humanity looks like and

462
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: how people can be great and how they can be

463
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Speaker 3: not so great. You now have a new show, Caught

464
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Speaker 3: the Union, based in d C. How how do we

465
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Speaker 3: get back to d C? How do we get back

466
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Speaker 3: to your roots?

467
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: If we will?

468
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Speaker 1: That the miracle that came about in the first place,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, to to go out to Hollywood, which is

470
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Speaker 1: so far away from the way I grew up and

471
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Speaker 1: so far away from the DC experience or even the

472
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Speaker 1: East Coast experience you on New York City Philly. It's

473
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Speaker 1: just how could that come about if there wasn't something

474
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Speaker 1: something that was really happening good and that was was

475
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Speaker 1: not temporary, was something that exists, like you know how

476
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: racism is racism and sexism you know there isms they're

477
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Speaker 1: not wasms, yeah you see yeah, and you know it's

478
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Speaker 1: an ism me and see thing we we just is,

479
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Speaker 1: you know, So so to be back makes total sense.

480
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Speaker 1: Because the city that I come from has been one

481
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Speaker 1: of the top African American cities in the whole country,

482
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Speaker 1: in the world since it's been around. You know, I

483
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: can go back to NW James like Duke Ellington, Marlon

484
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Speaker 1: Gay to people like PD green A to go mayor

485
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Speaker 1: Marion Berry just outstanding and and and and many many,

486
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Speaker 1: many multitudes of multitude more of intelligent, family oriented, professional

487
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Speaker 1: or blue collar. But get it done and get it

488
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Speaker 1: done right. And so so this city deserves union, deserves

489
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Speaker 1: a TV show, deserves to have relationships broadcast into the world,

490
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Speaker 1: especially since the native residents, the African Americans you know,

491
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: have been displaced in a way. What better way to

492
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Speaker 1: bring it back together than to have a television show started.

493
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Speaker 2: You know.

494
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: But but the DC Commission on Television and Film Entertainment

495
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Speaker 1: is the one who came up with the concept to

496
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Speaker 1: bring entertainment back to using DC on the level that

497
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Speaker 1: it is in Atlanta.

498
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, and why not?

499
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: And why not? It makes sense?

500
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: And I'm curious, Hey, y'all gotta pay some bills as

501
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: I normally do, not me but black effect and I

502
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Speaker 3: heart have to do that.

503
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Speaker 4: So you know, how to get past this point?

504
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: You could just like fast forward a little fifteen second button,

505
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Speaker 3: you know, just fast forward, fast forward a couple of minutes.

506
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Speaker 3: We'll be right back in just a few moments.

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Speaker 5: Every Champion and Cary champions to be a champion, a

508
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Speaker 5: champion and carry chapion and carry Chappy out a champion

509
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Speaker 5: and carry Chappion and carry.

510
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Chappy is the sports and entertainment and naked weird.

511
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Speaker 5: Harry Champion and carry chappion is to be a champion

512
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Speaker 5: of champion and carrie Chappi and nigger shout a champion

513
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Speaker 5: and carry champion and carried sheppy.

514
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Speaker 2: Naked word.

515
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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome back to this edition of Naked Tommy

516
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: Davidson still here. Uh. And in between being very vulnerable

517
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: and naked and honest, he's also given us a few impressions.

518
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: This man just does them, just spews them out. Did

519
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: you know he actually has a few singles out on

520
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Speaker 3: Apple Apple Music.

521
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: I didn't.

522
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: You're welcome. I asked you mentioned DCE. Tell me what

523
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: Union is about? I know this is the very first

524
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: streaming show of its kind on DCE. So what is

525
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: your Tell me what Union is about?

526
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: In your role, It's just about it. It's like the

527
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: prowd family.

528
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: Huh.

529
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's about us being a part of

530
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: humanity and not outside of it. You know, it's like

531
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: like Africa where we're from. Yes, it's not outside humanity.

532
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: We're not like in some zoo. We're part of humanity.

533
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: A matter of fact. We created it and the things

534
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: that sustained it to be able to survive to this

535
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Speaker 1: point anyway.

536
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Speaker 2: You know.

537
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: So if you got cheers and you got friends, well

538
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: you better say cheers because we're going to.

539
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Be chilling with our friends, you see what I mean?

540
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and our friends don't just have one race of

541
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Speaker 1: friends in a major city.

542
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

543
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: That that that's a that's a fairy tale. Yeah, you know,

544
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: we as real as it goes back to that. Yeah,

545
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: you know the whole nine Yard Chocola city all the way.

546
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: And we're we're we're not. We're not we love hip hop.

547
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: We're not a hip hop city, we go Go city.

548
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: We're not from from LA We're not we're from We're

549
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: not dirty South. You know, we who we are. I

550
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: think that our closest cousins would be Philly probably.

551
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Speaker 4: Really really, that makes sense, that makes sense. I agree

552
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: with that. I agree with that that makes sense.

553
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: Be our closest cousins.

554
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you.

555
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: Know, every I love d C. I think anyone who's

556
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: been there can appreciate it. And yes, you love Go

557
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Go music. You love what it brings. There's so much

558
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: power there. How do you in this show talk about

559
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: the power in the black experience while addressing humanity because

560
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: we should be a part of the power collective.

561
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: In many ways, we talk like we really talk, you know,

562
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: we talk like we really talk. We talked about politics,

563
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: we talk about we talk about relationships, we talk about business,

564
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about aspirations and goals. We talk

565
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of too, like everybody else, you know, but

566
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: most of the most of all, we talk about positive

567
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: We talk about, you know, getting ahead or knowing how

568
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: to get ahead, or learning how to get ahead, you know,

569
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: or learning how to be the best that you can be.

570
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, and that that hasn't gone anywhere, That hasn't

571
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: gone anywhere, we have not the only thing that African Americans,

572
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Americans have done here and and at large globally is

573
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: get better, get better at who we are and what

574
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: we are. You know, don't let the last eight years

575
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: fool you mm hmm. Because you know, once we ran

576
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: the world for eight years. Look like they're trying to

577
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: get us to forget. And that was just one of us.

578
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, can you imagine?

579
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: And there's there's there's a billion. Correct, So.

580
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: You know we we we stand firm as anyone else

581
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: who loves their culture and loves themselves. You know, there's

582
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Speaker 1: a Korean there's a Korean community that's that's orbiting around

583
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the black community. There's a there's an East Indian community

584
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: that's orbiting around the black community. There's there's an East

585
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Indian community that's orbiting around the black community. At Vietnamese

586
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: community that's orbiting around black communities. There's and uh back

587
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: in the forties and and and the Industrial Revolution that

588
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: were Polish families orbiting around Washington, d c. Or orbiting

589
00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: around a majority of Black city. So it's just it's

590
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: just designed for us to orbit around ourselves.

591
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Speaker 2: Get it? Union?

592
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

593
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Frankie asked something like that. Freakie add something

594
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: like that, Uh, ain't understand.

595
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: Why wait treat you over this?

596
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: Why things we do?

597
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: Right?

598
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

599
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: I do?

600
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I love you? Don't battle? How would said or done

601
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: you do?

602
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: The best impression?

603
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: You need a whole album of just you singing by

604
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: yourself because you can sing.

605
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: Do we have miss.

606
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: That's missing that?

607
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Because I'm now in the music industry, I just had

608
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: my my biggest song single. It's called Kids zero. So

609
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: you go to Apple, you go to Apple Spotify, don't

610
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: get it. I have another one called I Know featuring

611
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: Richard Elliott, and also another word called Sweet Reunion featuring

612
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Dave Cox any many others coming with was collaborations with artists.

613
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Use music Spotify, check it out. And the good thing

614
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: about that is I started singing first, tell me more

615
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: be since I was a little kid four, I was

616
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: seeing entertaining.

617
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: I must have won.

618
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: I must have been, you know, fifty five and oh

619
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: as a kid when the talent show singing undefeated, yeah, undefeated, undefeated, you.

620
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Speaker 4: Know yeah, I love it.

621
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Speaker 2: The last time I.

622
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Speaker 1: Lost a talent show was when I decided to sing

623
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Speaker 1: instead of do comedy, and a friend of mine from

624
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Speaker 1: DC told me, don't don't sing because everybody do. Your

625
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: comedy is unique, and I said, man, I'm a singing

626
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Speaker 1: I lost you.

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00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: I never even asked you that we got into all

628
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: of this. How did you? This is so bad on

629
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: my part? How did you get started in comedy?

630
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Speaker 3: I know you moved to LA and I know you

631
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: had you made friends with some of the grades, and

632
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: you and up being this amazing show. When your career

633
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: has spanned and you've had TV shows and you've been

634
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: in movies, But how did you start in comedy? What

635
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: was the genesis of that for you?

636
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: My friend Howard, who grew up with Howard.

637
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Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Howard, he out there. If he ain't out there,

638
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: then you can talk to Monique or with Sheila or

639
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: Cartoon Harvey or Leo Monique. You know, you got a

640
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: lot of brothers, sisters. But he's the one told me,

641
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: you know, you stupid, you stupid man. You don't even

642
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: know you could be in Hollywood right now doing movies

643
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: and all that, and you happy to be an assistant

644
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: chef at Ramada in Virginia. He's like, come on, man,

645
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: you're crazy. So he made me go down to the

646
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: worst strip club in DC, the Penthouse, and there was

647
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Speaker 1: a mic available where the guy said he going to

648
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Speaker 1: net you to the stage. So I went there. I

649
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: stood there for a while. The guy turned to me

650
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: and said, all right, you go ahead on. I turned

651
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: to Howard, I was like, well, what do you want

652
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: me to say? I said, I don't care what you say,

653
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: just say something. And from the first thing I said,

654
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: people laughed, and within a year I was in Hollywood.

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00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: Wow. Now I'm talking to you. It happened.

656
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: Wow wow wow. So wait, you were a chef at

657
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Speaker 3: the Ramata in Virginia. Howard said, you wasted your time.

658
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to the strip club his open mic. You go,

659
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: you don't know what to say. First thing you say,

660
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: they start laughing. And then at that moment it just clicked,

661
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: like this is what you were going to do for

662
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: your life.

663
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: It had been there the whole time. Assistant chef.

664
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, hey guys, sorry, Yeah.

665
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: But I was qualified because I was working as a

666
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: prep cook since I was fifteen, So the chef knew me.

667
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: So when he got the big job, he took me

668
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: with him because you know, I knew what to do.

669
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Speaker 3: So wait, tell me more. I'll go back to the chef.

670
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: The assistant chef gig in a second. So then you

671
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: do this at the Penthouse. Everyone loves you. Do you

672
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: just start performing in there every night? Do you start

673
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: finding local clubs to go up and do open mic?

674
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: In the neighborhood in the d m V area. What

675
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: happens next?

676
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: It was a It was an avalanche. It was an avalanche.

677
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Remember Mason, Mason Buffy had to join Bybee What's to

678
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: think about comedy? And I went so so it was

679
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: like it was like I ended up, uh doing talent shows.

680
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I ended up doing concerts, opening concerts, and I just

681
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: it just started rolling and rolling. As a matter of fact,

682
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: there was a television show that preceded def Jam and

683
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: all of them. The first one was here at Howard

684
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Universe m hm, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, And that

685
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: was the first. You know, Andy Evans was a brilliant

686
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: guy who said we should have a TV show just

687
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: with black comics. That was the first time, and so

688
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: I came from that since trifty. The first time I

689
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: went to a comedy club for open night, I mean

690
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: open mic night, I met Martin and Dave Chappelle. That's

691
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: how we met. You see, two other small names. They

692
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: came out of DC two all.

693
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: The time, little names. Yeah, I think I've heard of them.

694
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: I read that you lived in the same neighborhood as Dave.

695
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: Is that true? Or you guys kind of grew up

696
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: around you one another.

697
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: I lived in Silver Spring on sixtieth in East West Highway.

698
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: He lived a little further up, so yeah, he lived.

699
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: He lived.

700
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: He didn't live in my neighborhood. He lived near it. Okay,

701
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: So so where he lived, everybody went to play basketball,

702
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: you know. So he basically isn't from my neighborhood, but

703
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: you from around the way.

704
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Can you point to one single moment, whether it be

705
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: a show, a comedy show, a TV show, a movie,

706
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: something that really defined your career and established you as

707
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: a comedian, a premier comedian, a part of that that

708
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: og cast of greats.

709
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it was the night that I went on

710
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: in the main room at the Comedy Store, which was

711
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: the real deal, and I got put on the show

712
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: with Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor, and I was thinking

713
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I was the host, and then he told me, no,

714
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: you're on the show with him. You all do it

715
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: half an hour each and you're You're a sandwich between

716
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: the two of them for four shows. So amazing, So

717
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: I turned I turned it out. I turned up, y'all say,

718
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: turned up?

719
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: Right?

720
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, the kids still say that, how amazing.

721
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: Listen a look at you.

722
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: You can't still say that the main.

723
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: Room you're talking about here in La right, and you

724
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: were sandwiched between Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy.

725
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

726
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was doing that well in all the other rooms.

727
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: So it's my turn to get in the big room.

728
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't. I didn't disappoint. I was like, I

729
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: was like, I looked like Michael Vickan his first season

730
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: to watch out.

731
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: They could catch you. They can't catch you.

732
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: Uh that's exciting. Yeah. Yeah, it was the best frit

733
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Speaker 2: of in my life.

734
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't because I had gone from having two

735
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: little cars and the job to take in the bus.

736
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: I ain't never I didn't think you was gonna catch

737
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: me on the bus for the rest of my life,

738
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Speaker 1: you know.

739
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: I usually we used to do laundrying, go get groceries

740
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: on the bus. Are you crazy?

741
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: So so here I am catching the bus, you know,

742
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Mexican's with cowboy ats on. Somebody got to fight, got

743
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: to the front of the Dago bus or whatever. And

744
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm like at a bus stop. From all that, from

745
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: being at a bus stop, you know, and and and

746
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: working at working at Deli's and making ends meet and

747
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: staying out all night every night doing comedy and I

748
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: was about to go home because it was just too much.

749
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: I had a job. I go back to DC do

750
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: my thing, and then I did that show. I remember

751
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: my mother sent me a letter in the mail before

752
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: that show, the week before that show, and it was

753
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: one of those big legal on the legal yellow legal paper,

754
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, long ones, and she wrote a little magic

755
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: marker she left for twenty dollars bills. She said, I

756
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: know you need that, and don't leave, baby, I love you, yep, yep, yep.

757
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: And I didn't go, and man, that happened. So I

758
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: called her and I said, guess what happened? Because Richard

759
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: Pryor for the show, found me in the little room

760
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I was in and he looked up and down like

761
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: I was a strange animal.

762
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: He went.

763
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: He was a funny mother and walked away and was

764
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: like yeah. And I called my mother and I told

765
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: her what happened. She said, I told you not to leave.

766
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: Heartbreak.

767
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: That makes me want to drop two thug tears. I

768
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: appreciate that. What great moms are wonderful?

769
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: Right, yeah? Yeah, And so that to me.

770
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: Is truly a defining moment. And you were one of

771
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: a few who can say that you've witnessed that. To

772
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: have Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy, that'sn't heard of people.

773
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: People would like to die and come back and see

774
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: that happen again, you know what I'm saying.

775
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: And so stuff that I've been able to do, it's

776
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: amazing as a result of you guys, as a result.

777
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Of my audience.

778
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see the stuff I've been able to drop.

779
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: I drove the Goodyear Blimp over the Super Bowl. I

780
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: drove the Oscar, my Wheder wagon drug, I was at

781
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Bozo Studio. I did so much stuff that that you

782
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I traveled the world for three years for a TV

783
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: show on ABC that I was the host of, and

784
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: I traveled during the during the during I traveled during

785
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: the elections. You know, you know with Trump, I was gone,

786
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, so so I was I wasn't even in

787
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: the country.

788
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: I learned a lot from the experience. But all the

789
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: things that I've been able to do.

790
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: What did you learn from that experience? You're saying you

791
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: were not in the country while Trump was running for president,

792
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: but you travel did you What did you learn while

793
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: you were.

794
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: I found out that you can get the black off you.

795
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: They don't look at us like like would looked at here.

796
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: You know when you when you were you know, around abroad.

797
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: You know, there's just like, oh there's a there's another

798
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: human being. Yeah, you know, not o, hey, that's a

799
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: black man. And so you can get the black off yet.

800
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: You know. And so it's it's it's it's right away.

801
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: You feel a little more relaxed. You know.

802
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 1: Not that this country is a bad place for us,

803
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's history that's influenced. Are fellow citizens that

804
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: aren't black. Yes, you look at us it a certain way.

805
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 4: Sure.

806
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is you're saying is true. Like, no one's

807
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: denying it. It's absolutely fact. The country's built on racism,

808
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: isn't it built this country. We built this country and

809
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: it is what it is. No one would deny that.

810
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

811
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion,

812
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Speaker 5: a champion and carry champion and carried chat, beata champion

813
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 5: and carry chapion and carried chap entertainment can naked weird

814
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Speaker 5: kerry champion and carry champion is to be a champion,

815
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: a champion and carry champion, A champion and carry champion

816
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: and carried chatim word.

817
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: I think it's very interesting that comedians, I believe and

818
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: I think are the most astute in terms of of

819
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: how of how you all observe behavior and politics and

820
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: how they work together. Was it intentional for you to

821
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: always have comedy that was stop thoughtful, thought provoking, and

822
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: obviously funny as well.

823
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: It's hard to blend the two.

824
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: I think.

825
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: That it all was a combination of what was already there, okay,

826
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: and then what how it came how it came out

827
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: was the stuff that was already in me, that I

828
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: was taught, or that I saw, you know, I saw

829
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: you know I was taught. You know I want to

830
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to start wielding the gun and hanging out

831
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: with my friends and robbing and stealing and you.

832
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: Know, all that stuff.

833
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: And my mother threw me out the house so you

834
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: can't not come back here at all. And that was

835
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: hard for me because everybody in the community respected her.

836
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: And one day she walked by and everybody said, I'm

837
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: miss Davison. I said, I a mom, and she kept

838
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: on walking. MMM, so I had to go. I went home,

839
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: knocked on the door. She opened the door with the

840
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: chain on it back one eye.

841
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: She told me.

842
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: You get a job, you can come on. Damn you

843
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: close the door. So went and got a job at

844
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: eye out. Sheate on my little work permit. You know,

845
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: I had to be thirteen, you had to be fourteen.

846
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: I was thirteen, But I got the job. Came back.

847
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: She opened the door.

848
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: She said, me on the couch, and she said, you

849
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: stealing from people who are just like me.

850
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: You know you ain't doing nothing sexy. She said.

851
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: The last thing you should be doing is trying to

852
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: take something from somebody, because there's three ways that you

853
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: can live.

854
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: You can live.

855
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: From taking things from somebody, right, you can. They're only

856
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: she said, they only three ways.

857
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: To make money.

858
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: She said, you either inherited wi your people having inherited

859
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: nothing here right to work for it. Or you either

860
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: take it and only two of those things is susceptable here.

861
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: So I started seeing the world that way.

862
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: H m hmmm.

863
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: What I do is a job. What I do is

864
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: a job. When I go here, I go a little

865
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: grocery store, just like when I when I was at

866
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: uh the hospital, I used to work, as you know,

867
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: put a little gas in the car.

868
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, this is a job.

869
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a job. It's all a job. Yeah, everything

870
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: is a job. When it's all sett and down. Hopefully

871
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: you can make it a career, but it is a job.

872
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: I am curious before I let you go because I'm

873
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: thinking about you don't sing it, bring it in, bringing in,

874
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: bring it in. Do you still cook? What's your favorite

875
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: thing to cook? Because it sounds like you can burn?

876
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Like you you you had all these different positions. Can

877
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: you still burn? Or no?

878
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

879
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: I got different things that different cycles I go through.

880
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: So I'll go through, uh a state cycle where I

881
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: want to do the traditional you know rehearby and make

882
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: you know that thing with some nice French green beans

883
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: and some white rice and some mashed potatoes. I'll be

884
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: a more extravagant mood and do a three tortellini cheese

885
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: pasta with baked salmon with a cream sauce, capers, sun

886
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: dried tomatoes.

887
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: Tommy's restaurant open, Yeah it's open.

888
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can go into uh did Jamaican move

889
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: and maybe do some curry gold or you know, soap.

890
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: And I eat like we eat we eat heavy.

891
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: We eat heavy, you know, we eat heavy because we

892
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: have you.

893
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need it, we need it, and we mad

894
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: because you can say so thin. That's what we're mad at,

895
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: because you can eat and stay so thin. And we

896
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: want to know if yeah, you know, I listen, I

897
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: work at it. You just you It seems it might

898
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: be more easy for you. It's a job. But remember

899
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: you're talking about jobs a moment ago. Tell me it

900
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: is a job by to stay fine.

901
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: I get that, I get that. I get that.

902
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: When does union premiere or has it already premiered? I

903
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: want to know. I want to tell the folks where

904
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 4: they can find it.

905
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'd be lying if I told you

906
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I knew. Okay, great, I got to do some more

907
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: homework on that.

908
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: Okay, we will do the homework too.

909
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. That the easy part is now. Mh you ain't

910
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: even got to ask a question. You can just go right,

911
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: you know.

912
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm losing my mind because while we were

913
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: on this interview, I was like, with.

914
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: You're on your phone. You're doing the interview with the phone.

915
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: By the way, I've done that too, don't be in better.

916
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: I had a little mini panic. I was like, but

917
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: my phone.

918
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's our brain, it's our brain. Tommy Davidson, You're

919
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: such a pleasure and a true legend. I'm going to

920
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: get you out of here. Has been a little over

921
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: thirty minutes. Thank you so much for being so gracious.

922
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: Thank you.

923
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: And hey, yes you can have a great interview without

924
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: great questions, man, man, thank you.

925
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm also great questions.

926
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: I really am, I really am a fan and I

927
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: and I've watched you forever. I don't want to just

928
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: say that, but you've had you have some really truly

929
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: iconic stories. And I hope you know where you live

930
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 3: in history, for us, for the culture you. I hope

931
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: you Okay, thank.

932
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: You so much, good good, good, god luck to you girl.

933
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening to this edition

934
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Speaker 3: of Naked. And remember remember remember this, Remember this respect

935
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: Tommy Davidson, because he's a true og that that those

936
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: original gangsters og that titles thrown around a lot. He

937
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: is an og uh. He started an entirely new wave

938
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: of black comedy, and he sits a top with the greats.

939
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: Maybe not a big platform like them, but he is

940
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: a great.

941
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 4: Do not forget that.

942
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: Secondly, Secondly, secondly, co senior girl should Carrie Richardson some

943
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: love and give her the grace to make mistakes, give

944
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: her the grace to be famous and figure it out.

945
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: Give her that grace to be a black girl in

946
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: this world, in a world in which when we show up,

947
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: it can be so very complicated, so very hard on us,

948
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: and we don't need somebody else being hard on us.

949
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 4: Just give her some love. I appreciate you off for listening.

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Speaker 4: We will be back next week.