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Speaker 2: Christy Scales, Aishamorrison here with you on this Monday, ladies.

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Speaker 2: I wish it was a little more positive mood today

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Speaker 2: to kick off our week. Unfortunately, not going to be

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Speaker 2: a fun week here at the Star in Frisco. Your

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys falling short to the Arizona Cardinals twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to sixteen. Christy, welcome back. I'm sure with a long

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Speaker 2: fight home a very quiet flight, I would imagine.

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Speaker 4: Actually, they're really fast after a loss because everyone wants

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Speaker 4: to get out of the locker room. There also were

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Speaker 4: storms in Dallas, so we actually landed twenty minutes early,

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Speaker 4: so it's like there was a lot of incentive to

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Speaker 4: get back and start to put Sunday behind everyone.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we have a lot to unpack with this game,

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Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the very ugly within it. So

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Speaker 2: twenty eight to sixteen. I don't think this was a

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Speaker 2: game that anybody predicted that that would be the final

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Speaker 2: score and the Cardinals would come out with the win.

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Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I think the word of the

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Speaker 2: week is overlooked. I think a lot of people overlook

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals and Josh Dobbs and what he was able

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Speaker 2: to do there Aisha, you've had time to Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know you've had time to to come down from it, right,

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Speaker 2: and you've had time to kind of think through let's

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Speaker 2: start there. What are the initial things that stood out

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Speaker 2: to you to why the Dallas Cowboys and pull off

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Speaker 2: the winning this game?

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Speaker 5: Well, on the offensive side of the ball, I wanted

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Speaker 5: to take into consideration. I think Tony Pollard said after

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Speaker 5: the game yesterday, and and Mike McCarthy kind of alluded

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Speaker 5: to you when you have three starting offensive lineman or

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Speaker 5: two get hurt on a Saturday, which Christie's explained to us,

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Speaker 5: just kind of how the weekly schedule plays into how

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Speaker 5: the team is successful. I feel like, well they talked

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Speaker 5: about it like they had to change a lot of

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Speaker 5: their alignments, some of their game plan, and the red

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Speaker 5: zone struggles continue. My friends, like that is probably my

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Speaker 5: biggest takeaway from the game. They were able to move

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Speaker 5: the move down the field. The penalties were not helpful,

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Speaker 5: and on the defensive.

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Speaker 6: Side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Listen to all the player interviews and you go look

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Speaker 5: at the game, you see that they did not play

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Speaker 5: assignment based football. They did not play for their brother

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Speaker 5: yesterday and that was clear, and so that to me

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Speaker 5: kind of sums up why the game went the way

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Speaker 5: it did. And the Cardinals were prepared.

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Speaker 4: They were prepared, They played really well to the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: great plan. They really utilized their guys. What went right

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Speaker 4: for the Cowboys in the first two weeks didn't happen

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Speaker 4: in week three, no takeaways, only two sacks. There had

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Speaker 4: been no giveaways, and then there was the one at

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Speaker 4: the end where Dak was picked off in the end zone.

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Speaker 4: And in the first two weeks, the Cowboys did not

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Speaker 4: shoot themselves in the foot. It was the other team

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Speaker 4: that was making the mistakes yesterday with those thirteen penalties,

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Speaker 4: and there could have been more. There were some that

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Speaker 4: were multiple penalties on the same play or were declined.

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Speaker 4: So it was just a game of fits and starts.

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Speaker 4: Whenever there was any kind of momentum going for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: they would make a mistake, usually a penalty. And so

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who your opponent is. And even though

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Speaker 4: we talked about it last week, the Cardinals were zero

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, Michael Wilson, who I am, you should mention,

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Speaker 4: you know, with a big play and so yeah, you

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Speaker 4: just you can't be It's hard enough to beat another

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Speaker 4: team without you know, you beat yourself. Forget it, forget it.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who you play.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and trust me, we were going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the penalties Christy. Last last season. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: to take a drink anytime I mentioned penalties on this podcast. Well,

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Speaker 2: we have thirteen reasons today, ma'am, to take thirteen drinks,

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Speaker 4: This ain't just doctor pepper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, it's excuse today. It's excuse today,

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Speaker 4: Yards, and what was so frustrating, so many of them

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Speaker 4: and so those are understood by coaches. But pre snap

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Speaker 4: and it was all three phases of the game. Boy,

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Speaker 4: those penalties on special teams, that holding call, wiping out

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Speaker 4: the fifty one yard or return punt return by Cavante Turpin.

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Speaker 4: I know that the offense still they were back at

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Speaker 4: so many cowboy fans yesterday and everyone was so excited

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Speaker 4: on that play and then you know the flag. It

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Speaker 4: was the correct call. Happened to be right in my

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Speaker 4: that flag came out while the punt was still in

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Speaker 4: that was a killer.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing. I have been going back to

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Speaker 2: That was kind of their last chance to score a

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Speaker 2: in Week twelve. So again we're talking about penalties, We're

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Speaker 2: We're talking about run defense being an issue, all the

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's more frustrating and concerning about

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Speaker 2: was frustrating to see them take what felt like ten

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and when you talk about some of the penalties

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think you had an offensive OPI against

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Speaker 5: Christy's point, she mentioned the fact that every time there

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Speaker 5: they would get a stop flag and you just like,

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Speaker 5: and the jumping off sides that I believe that Tank

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Speaker 6: There were the words that he used and you could

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Speaker 5: You could see that in their play just we used

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Speaker 5: undisciplined yesterday A yeah.

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Speaker 4: Frustrated, Yeah, And that was the feeling on the sideline

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Speaker 4: It was the defensive linements that on the far right

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Speaker 4: and said little something and then tomark because it wasn't

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Speaker 4: But when you win DeMarcus and I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 4: that word antsy, I think it's that they knew that

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Speaker 4: and it's like who's going to make the play, Who's

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Speaker 4: Micah had that big zac fans erupt, you know, it's like,

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Speaker 4: then not just nothing real quick.

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Speaker 2: Oh just a reminder you can text us your questions

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Speaker 2: at eight one seven two nine zero three two nine eight. Ladies,

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Speaker 2: we got some hate mail here, Barce. You all need

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Speaker 2: to change a formatting just a little bit too much negativity.

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Speaker 2: Too much for you pointing a fan since nineteen sixty one,

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Speaker 2: go Cowboys, Well, fans since nineteen sixty one. We would

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Speaker 2: be doing an incredible disservice if we sugar coated how

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Speaker 2: bad this loss really was this week. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: way have we gotten there. I mean we haven't.

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Speaker 6: We haven't gotten there quite yet. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 6: some of the positive stuff this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get that, and they'd get this out of

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Speaker 2: the way, trust me, we din't. We don't like talking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and thank thank you for watching, and thank you

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Speaker 4: for the text. But there, I mean, it's there.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 4: There are some positives, but I mean facts are facts.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna they got they got beat They got

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Speaker 4: to the Cardinals. Sometimes you're not the better team that day.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to do with the talent. How the

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Speaker 2: And it was yeah, well, and what I was telling

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Speaker 2: Naisha earlier before we started recording is this team was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's still a conference game though it's an NFC.

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Speaker 2: But I know I always lights the fire. It lights

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, let's go over some of these statistics

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Speaker 2: from yesterday to kick things off, shall we. Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: He completed twenty five of forty attempts. Tony Pollard led

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Speaker 2: you watch some of this. You've been stewing on this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, at least you know your kickers, alright.

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Speaker 6: Guys gotta do their job. Ceedee lamb, you gotta finish

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Speaker 4: So there has to be concepts there.

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Speaker 5: If they're dropping six and seven in coverage, that means

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Speaker 6: I love how he's playing the game right now.

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Speaker 5: But that this is they have to earn respect from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Dak using his legs when

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Speaker 4: you mentioned the penalties. That was the Tuma Doga penalty.

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Speaker 4: one and it was incomplete two CD.

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Speaker 6: The snap was low. The snap was low. Dak Bobble

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Speaker 4: and I'm sorry, I you know, I haven't talked to

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Speaker 4: Hoffman or Dak specifically about it, but that one looked

437
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Speaker 4: like the snap was good and Dak took his eyes

438
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Speaker 4: off of it for just a second. But you mentioned

439
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Speaker 4: the we were talking about a couple of the false

440
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Speaker 4: starts earlier, that first one that was called on Terrence Steele.

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Speaker 4: That went hint, everybody on the line, the entire offense

442
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Speaker 4: moved and the snap was half a beat late. So

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Speaker 4: I know that seventy eight Terrence Steele got called. But

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Speaker 4: that was one of those issues where it's a it's

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Speaker 4: a new sinner.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking through the penalties right now, I'm staring at them.

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Speaker 5: Oh god.

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Speaker 2: And the only person that had multiple penalties in the

449
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Speaker 2: game was Terrence Steele. Okay, but again, ye, so well,

450
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Speaker 2: we'll give him just one. The point is across the board,

451
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Speaker 2: really everybody had a penalty. Have drown bland Osa, Micah

452
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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, TG Bass, Terrence Steele, Janie Thomas, that one.

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Speaker 4: Kill us your Oprah, and that would a penalty.

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Speaker 2: And Dante Feller, I mean, che my Doga. These are

455
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Speaker 2: people that Jonathan Hankins you don't ever see get penalized.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing, do I I think this was

457
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Speaker 2: a penalty heavy game on both sides. Yes, more so

458
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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys obviously, But what gets me about it

459
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Speaker 2: is it goes back to just playing very undisciplined football.

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Speaker 2: And that's something that Mike McCarthy has always talked about

461
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Speaker 2: when it comes to penalties, is just playing very disciplined

462
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Speaker 2: and knowing how to be smart when you know it's

463
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Speaker 2: a penalty heavy game. So for me, my biggest issue is,

464
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Speaker 2: you know what kind of game these guys are playing.

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Speaker 2: After you go into the locker room at halftime, at

466
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Speaker 2: that point, you already had a handful of penalties. Okay,

467
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Speaker 2: it's one of those games. Play extra smart. And what

468
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Speaker 2: gets me is for two weeks we've been hearing that

469
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Speaker 2: they're not chasing big plays and that they're not trying

470
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Speaker 2: to force things to happen. You saw the panic mode

471
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Speaker 2: that came into the Cowboys when they were trying to

472
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Speaker 2: chase things and make it happen. A lot of these

473
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Speaker 2: penalties offsides, off sides, holding, holding face mask, playing out

474
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Speaker 2: of desperation, not playing to just play and make something

475
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Speaker 2: happen within that snap, right, it was playing to try

476
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Speaker 2: to get ahead of where they were. They're constantly try

477
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Speaker 2: to play catch up and yeah, no the penalties. Ily

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Speaker 2: hope that this is the only thirteen penalty game for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys this season.

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Speaker 6: Can you tell me about the Duran Bland play? Did

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Speaker 6: you see?

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Speaker 5: I just thought they got tripped up with each other

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Speaker 5: when I went back and rewatched it.

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Speaker 6: The PI a p I early in the game, the

485
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Speaker 6: DPI that put them in position to the second quarter

486
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Speaker 6: score there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, second quarter defensive past interference.

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Speaker 4: Was I wasn't surprised with the call. I mean it's penalty, Yeah, yeah,

489
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Speaker 4: I thought it. Yeah, I know, it's a tough one

490
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Speaker 4: when you're the cornerback.

491
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Speaker 2: Running.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: I think for me to the most surprising one was

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Speaker 2: the Michael Gallup one when I when I end the

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Speaker 2: Jonier Thomas.

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Speaker 4: The one on Wilson, the one on Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Let's see, it was in the fourth

498
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Speaker 2: quarter and the defensive off side was it in the

499
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Speaker 2: room with us? I didn't see it, that one, That

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Speaker 2: one I genuinely did not see.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough day when bones Fossil is

502
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Speaker 4: having a bad day and he's he's mad. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: but but again that you can't blame everything on the penalties,

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Speaker 4: and we are not doing that. We are not doing that.

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Speaker 4: But it just points to but it was it a

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Speaker 4: huge factor. Obviously it was.

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Speaker 2: But they shouldn't have to rely on a call to

508
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Speaker 2: win a game. You're exactly right, exactly a defensive past

509
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Speaker 2: interference on Michael Gallup to win the game.

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Speaker 5: However, it does need to be called correctly because the

511
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Speaker 5: thing is is like those plays changed.

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Speaker 4: The game called called consistently. That's fair.

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Speaker 5: Consistently consistently, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am, that's a better way

514
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Speaker 5: to put it. It does They do need to be

515
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Speaker 5: consistent because I mean, if that too six is if

516
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Speaker 5: two six getting tripped up with old dude is p I,

517
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Speaker 5: then what the heck was that in the end zone?

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Speaker 6: So That's what I'm saying, like it.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't And and so even for us as fans is

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Speaker 5: frustrating or for us as people who work here and

521
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: analysts are. It's frustrating, but it's still just I I'm

522
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Speaker 5: glad that I don't have to I'm not a coach,

523
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Speaker 5: because I think it's easy for everyone to be like

524
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Speaker 5: they gotta stay like it is.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know what that feels like.

526
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Speaker 5: I don't know what it feels like when you know,

527
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 5: like this guy's grabbing me. Because I went back and

528
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: watched the game, the Cardinals secondary is extremely grabby, very grabby.

529
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Speaker 5: They're scrappy. I'll give it to them. They're scrappy, but

530
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Speaker 5: even and so there were numerous holds that didn't get

531
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Speaker 5: called for the Cowboys defense, I mean, and I just

532
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 5: think the frustration built and that played into the execution.

533
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Speaker 5: So yeah, they're gonna have to be better. And I

534
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Speaker 5: felt like the run game was effective when it needed

535
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Speaker 5: to go though we talked about.

536
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Speaker 6: That here on the show. We said the running back

537
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Speaker 6: should have a good day.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is, I think unfortunately, when you

539
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Speaker 2: lose this kind of loss and the last offensive drive

540
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Speaker 2: ends with an interception, that's what's going to be talked about. Fair.

541
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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's fair to overshadow that this

542
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: game could have been a lot worse if Dak was

543
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: not holding that ball like he was. I mean, for

544
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: the amount of time he had to release that ball quickly.

545
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: His O line was collapsing, he was scrambling, he was

546
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: using his legs a little bit more than what we've seen. Honestly,

547
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 2: a lot of quarterbacks couldn't go through and hold the ball.

548
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: Look at Daniel Jones week one. You can't tell me

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: when the quarterback's being bullied with that amount of pressure

550
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: that there's not going to be multiple turnovers, multiple interceptions,

551
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Speaker 2: And for Dak to only have one in this game,

552
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Speaker 2: and I just hate that that's going to be the

553
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: conversation again, should tell you something that he was playing

554
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Speaker 2: his butt off to hold that ball and not allow

555
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Speaker 2: it to get in the hands of the defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, look, whenever the Cowboys lose, especially to a

557
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Speaker 4: team that fans and media think they should take care

558
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: of and double digit underdogs. Anytime the Cowboys lose, it

559
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: is like an episode of CSI CSI the Star. We

560
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: have this dead bar, this quarks which is the loss,

561
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: and then everybody's analyzing and doing the autopsy and stuff. No,

562
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: it is, it is. It is playing in CSI the Star,

563
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: that's what it is used to be CSI Valley Ranch

564
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: till twenty sixteen. But no, but here are the things.

565
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: The Cowboys know exactly what they did wrong. Are these

566
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: things fixable? Absolutely? Say that alignment assignment cutting out penalties, right,

567
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: I mean they know what to do. And thank goodness,

568
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: there is a twenty four hour rule in football because

569
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Speaker 4: it works both ways. Say that you can't get too high,

570
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: but you also can't get too low. And tonight on

571
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Speaker 4: the Cowboy Hour, we have OsO Diggi Zua, the starting

572
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Speaker 4: defensive tackle number ninety seven. And during towards the end

573
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Speaker 4: of the game last night, I'm thinking, oh, man, I

574
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: feel bad for Osa because he's coming on the show

575
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: the one time it's that it's not victory Munday and

576
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: when they gave up a lot of rushing yards. But

577
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Speaker 4: at the same time, I think he's going to be

578
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: able to put things in perspective for us. Yeah, and

579
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: I'm really anxious to talk to him about how you know,

580
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: you don't just put it behind you and pretend it

581
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: didn't happen, right, But you learn from your successes, but

582
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: especially your losses. And let's see how they can practically

583
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: apply it going into this week against the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this before the show. Aish and

585
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I were It's also not to be overlooked. The Cardinals

586
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: played this like this was their super Bowl. I mean,

587
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: they put everything they had into winning this game, because

588
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: again we talked about this last week, they could not

589
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: afford to be oh and three getting ready to face

590
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and then become ohero to four potentially.

591
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Speaker 2: It's just they put everything that they had into making

592
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: sure this was shut down early on, and they said

593
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Speaker 2: that throughout the week. They were talking about starting early,

594
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: setting the tone early, and that's what they did. And

595
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys just couldn't find their footing to get back

596
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: into the game when they needed you, and when they would,

597
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: a flag was thrown.

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Speaker 4: Well, what I think the Cardinals did was they finished

599
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Speaker 4: what's the word that you hear players and coaches say

600
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Speaker 4: all the time, finish, finish, finish, finish the fight. It

601
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: was the T Shirts a few years ago, and they

602
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: played really well, They played really well in the first

603
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Speaker 4: half the first couple of weeks, and they couldn't finish it.

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Speaker 4: And they totally folded in the fourth quarter against the

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Speaker 4: Giants and they weren't going to let that happen. So

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Speaker 4: kudos to them because they maintained, you know, they were

607
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Speaker 4: consistent for the whole four quarters. And did they have

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Speaker 4: I think they ended up with like eight penalties and

609
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Speaker 4: things like that. There's something like that. I mean, there

610
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Speaker 4: were a few of six. But what did they do?

611
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Speaker 4: They protected the ball, they didn't give the ball away.

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Speaker 4: So the Cowboys went from a plus seven and turnover

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Speaker 4: differential and with zero giveaways and came out with a

614
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Speaker 4: minus one. So what's the number one indicator for most

615
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Speaker 4: NFL games, turnover differential? Cowboys didn't win a turnover differential,

616
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Speaker 4: had a lot of mistakes, gave up big plays on defense,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of rushing yards, couldn't capitalize on offense

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Speaker 4: in the red zone. So I'm sorry, and we're not

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Speaker 4: trying to be negative. That's just that's that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: That's the part of the optopsy results.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, we're going to take our next break

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Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to switch to the side,

623
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Speaker 2: to the other side of the ball, to the defense.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that and we're going to

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Speaker 2: text us your questions at eight one seven, two nine

652
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Speaker 2: zero three two nine eight. Keep them coming. We're gonna

653
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Speaker 2: answer them as they come in. So send us any

654
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Speaker 2: questions you might have, or any feedback, whatever, whatever your

655
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Speaker 2: heart desires, because that's mostly what we're getting right now.

656
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Speaker 2: All right, ladies, let's get into this. Christy, you were

657
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: talking in the last blog about this. The Cardinals play

658
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: played a good game, right? Was it an incredible game?

659
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: Not by any means. Let's look at some stats here.

660
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: For first downs, they had twenty, the Cowboys had twenty six.

661
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: Third downs, Arizona was five of ten, the Cowboys were

662
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: nine of sixteen. Let's see. Let's go to penalties. They

663
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: had eight penalties for sixty nine yards. Still not great

664
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Speaker 2: for a winning team. That's not something you want to

665
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: see for a team that really went on to win.

666
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: They had three touchdowns. Their time of possession, interestingly enough,

667
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes twenty seven seconds, the Dallas Cowboys thirty

668
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: four minutes three seconds.

669
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Speaker 4: So there you go.

670
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Speaker 2: There's a positive Cowboys that got the time of possession.

671
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: There going for or looking at Josh Dobbs what he had,

672
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: he was seventeen of twenty one of completed attempts, hit,

673
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty nine passing yards, one touchdown, no interceptions. However,

674
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: fifty five rushing yards. That run defense was tested by

675
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs as well. So all right, ladies, the defense

676
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: is not a unit that you're used to really picking

677
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: apart when it comes to games like this. This was

678
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: a very uncharacteristic play or showing by the defense. I

679
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: would say a lot of the things that worked well

680
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: for them obviously just weren't happening during this game. The

681
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: defense coming off of a very tough week, very hard

682
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: week after losing Trayvon Digs and you know, it's is

683
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: this kind of the post Trayvon injury that you're seeing

684
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Speaker 2: Does that have anything to do with what you saw

685
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Trayvon was in this game? Would have made a difference,

686
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, really that's.

687
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Speaker 5: I mean, he don't play question, he don't play inside

688
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: the box. But I will say that listening to Malee

689
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: Cooker and listening to a couple of the other guys.

690
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: I think jay Ron Kurs says something really great. He

691
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: said their will was just stronger than ours, and that

692
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 5: resonated with me. I mean the first player of the game,

693
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: Micah overshoots.

694
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: He's overly aggressive.

695
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 5: They used the defense, they use the defense's aggressiveness against them,

696
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: and I mean Michah he runs up, he has the

697
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: opportunity to make the tackle, he gets too deep, and

698
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: Josh Dobbs like all.

699
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 6: The way down the field, you know what I'm saying.

700
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Speaker 5: So it's like I will say that Malik Cooker did

701
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 5: talk about just the communication, like he was saying that

702
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: they were not They did not communicate well. They were

703
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: not getting the signals and the cues down, you know,

704
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 5: to the guys. And I think that's important. And when

705
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: you do lose a guy like Trayvon Diggs, it does

706
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 5: change change, probably does change your communication because he's a

707
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Speaker 5: guy that you can be sure knows where he's supposed

708
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: to be, He's supposed to know his job. But even

709
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: that big play to Michael Wilson, Jay lewis passing off

710
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: nobody like he literally is like you got him. No

711
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: he does not, like, no, he does not and so

712
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: that's some of the miscommunication things that I think with

713
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: the Trayvon digs out that they're gonna it's gonna take

714
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Speaker 5: some time for them to get in sync, you know,

715
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: with some of the new gentlemen coming in.

716
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 6: We talked about Jordan Lewis.

717
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 4: This is his second game back.

718
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Speaker 6: It's a lot of responsibility for him to come out.

719
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson this is his first game back. So you

720
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 5: saw some of that communication stuff there. But one thing

721
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 5: that does happen in this league is when your defensive line,

722
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: when your front seven doesn't look like they can stop

723
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: the run, your secondary gets caught looking in the backfield

724
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: because they think they gotta help.

725
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: And that was something that we saw this game as well.

726
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it makes a difference on the

727
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 5: back end, but from the front seven point.

728
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 6: Of view, guys got to do their job. They got

729
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 6: to do their job. It sounds easy, but a lot

730
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 6: of guys that do their job, a lot of guys

731
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: were doing other people's jobs. A lot of people were

732
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 6: doing those what are you doing here?

733
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Trayvon days being I makes a difference,

734
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: but it shouldn't have made this much of a difference.

735
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Speaker 5: Especially when it comes to the Russian events.

736
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just the big plays given up at the

737
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: worst time yesterday, that was the thing. And that's why

738
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Speaker 4: time of possession. I'm going to quote Babel Offenberg, my

739
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 4: Cowboys radio colleague, and he played eight years in the

740
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: NFL at quarterback. That's his least favorite statistic because it's

741
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: not necessarily quantity how long you have the ball, it's

742
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: what you do when you have it. Say that, and

743
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 4: the Cardinals average seven over seven and a half yards

744
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: per play yesterday. And those big plays with the forty

745
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: five yard touchdown run by More, the long wind to

746
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: Holly Wood Brown that was dagger. I know his touchdown

747
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: was the two yarder, but that one, oh my gosh,

748
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: that was a huge play. The Josh Dobbs run as

749
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: you mentioned early in the game down the left sideline.

750
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, you just you can't give up seven and

751
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: a half yards per play. So and meanwhile, the Cowboys

752
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: they you know, they weren't taking as many shots down

753
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: the field and didn't have those big plays. So yes,

754
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: they were able to pound it with the run game.

755
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: And so if I'd have told you coming into the

756
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: day that the Cowboys were gonna have four hundred and

757
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: sixteen total yards offense, over one hundred and eighty rushing yards,

758
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: and Tony Polard would have over one hundred and twenty yards.

759
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: You would say, oh, I bet the Cowboys won that game.

760
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: They controlled it, right, But no, no, because they bogged down. Yeah,

761
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: they didn't capitalize in the red zone. And meanwhile it

762
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: was the Cardinals who you know, doing really well in

763
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: the run and then made the plays down the field

764
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: when they needed to. So again, hats off to the Cardinals.

765
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and something that I thought was so interesting as

766
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, Dan Quinn has talked about

767
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: only missing two tackles in the first four total in

768
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: the first two weeks of the game. That was gone.

769
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: That was definitely gone. During this game, it just felt

770
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: like nobody knew what their job was. It felt very

771
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: confusing for everybody. And I mean going into halftime, it

772
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: just was there any adjustments made?

773
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: That's look, Yes, I mean it came out and they

774
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: had you know, they got good stock in the beginning

775
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: of the third quarter. Yes, and is the coaches always

776
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: say if you wait till I halftime to make adjustments,

777
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: you wait too long. They are trying to make all

778
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: that through throughout the game.

779
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: So they were trying. Yeah, it just wasn't panning out.

780
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's this is just again the most uncharacteristic

781
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: version of this defense.

782
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: And that's you're right about. You know, there were a

783
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: lot there were more yards after contact for the opposing

784
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: offense yesterday than there were through the first two games.

785
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: You know that there was really sure tackling the first

786
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: couple of things. But like I us show, you were saying,

787
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 4: you know, just just just one misstep, just one step

788
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: this way and they're going.

789
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 6: The other way.

790
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: You know.

791
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: But again it goes back to alignment assignment.

792
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: I love that.

793
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 5: But to the alignment part though, I will say that

794
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: confused me a bit. And I'm gonna I'm really glad,

795
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna have the opportunity to ask Dan

796
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 5: Quinn some things after here, because there were quite a

797
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 5: few times that the Cardinals front, I mean, they're running

798
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: twelve personnel, thirteen wards and ol and the Cowboys are

799
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: in the nickel like they're in the nickel, which is

800
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 5: where they have you know, the safeties in as linebackers.

801
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 5: And every time the Cardinals seen that they're running at

802
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: Marquee's bell.

803
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: They are like the beginning of this game.

804
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: Specifically, the Cowboys looked undersize against their combo blocks, their

805
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 5: double teams and things like that, and so I was

806
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 5: wondering what the thinking was and that because that was

807
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 5: that was something that the Cardinals.

808
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 6: Took advantage of. They took advantage of.

809
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 5: And this is something we saw and I believe the

810
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: Giants game that first drive against the Giants where they

811
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: came out, they had a smaller, a smaller lineup.

812
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 6: Sam Williams, Chauncey.

813
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 5: Golston, oh so DIGGI zoo. We talked about this and

814
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 5: they were efficient. They were efficient like the Giants where

815
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: they were being successful because they had more size. And

816
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 5: immediately next time down the field, dan Quinn makes the judgments,

817
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: oh no, Hankens, get you get your tail out there,

818
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 5: like and you saw that size make a difference in

819
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 5: the middle, and they just know they attacked this, that's

820
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 5: not they really attacked the Cowboys small, smaller like the

821
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 5: DB's and the safety specifically, even the dns on the outside.

822
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: They attacked the perimeter and it was effect and I

823
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 5: was I was disappointed because I was kind of waiting

824
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: for you know, that that adjustment to mediate for those

825
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 5: changes to be made, and they and it was not.

826
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: It was really up and down as far as the

827
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: alignments and the personnel packages.

828
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: Well, real quick, ladies, let's end on a positive note. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: stock boys, Stock, No, It's okay. Let's end on a

830
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: positive note. We can continue to dissect this tomorrow, especially

831
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: after we hear from Mike McCarthy and the coordinators here

832
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: in the next fifteen minutes or so. When we hear

833
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: from that, we can talk about it more tomorrow. But

834
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: we have a tradition here on Girls Talk Boys Talk

835
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: every Monday or Friday or let's see Tuesday, I guess,

836
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: depending on when the game is, we give our game

837
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: balls out and just because it's a loss doesn't mean

838
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: we can't do it. Today, Chris, there were some good

839
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: things that we could take out of it. Some who's

840
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: your prison, give me game.

841
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: It's nice to see Michael Gallup, you know, have a

842
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: have a really good game. And so I'm gonna go

843
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: with Michael Gallop for my game ball you go, you go.

844
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Dang it.

845
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna go with d Law because even

846
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 5: when you look at the game, he was sound, he

847
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: was sound.

848
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 6: Everybody else might not have played his assignment.

849
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: He did.

850
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 6: Like their assignment.

851
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: He did. He was sound.

852
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: His pursuit was still there too.

853
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: You know, because if he looked at the game, you

854
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: saw they looked dejected.

855
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 6: Sometimes he didn't.

856
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: He was still out there doing his job, and I

857
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: know it seemed like it was important to him to

858
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: still play through the adversity, to be the example, and

859
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: he played a good game.

860
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: I left when the camera would go to him on

861
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: the sideline.

862
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: And you saw the death stair, the death stare.

863
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: You want to see if you're an opposing quarterback. I'm

864
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: gonna go with Rico. Dowdell good to see Rico be

865
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: able to put on full display why he was selected

866
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: to be the backup to Tony Pollard. And to me,

867
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: he's had adversity in his career with injuries and not

868
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: having the opportunity to show what he can do, whether

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Speaker 2: you have officially entered the Rigodabdel era and I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited to continue to see more of him. He's physical,

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Speaker 2: he's fast, he's a bullet when he finds that hole.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited that he got his first NFL touchdown,

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Speaker 2: So excited for him and to talk about it with

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Speaker 2: him this week. But ladies, that is all the time

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Speaker 2: we have. I'm gonna cut it short today because we

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Speaker 2: and the coordinators. But thank you guys so so much

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Speaker 2: for watching. We'll be back tomorrow to continue to dissect

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Speaker 2: this game, how the Cowboys can move forward, and then

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Speaker 2: we will turn the page to all things Cowboys Patriots

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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend already for week four of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three regular season. Ladies, thank you, thank you you,

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Speaker 2: Christy shout out. Cookies, thank you.

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Speaker 4: From the team plane. I did not bake them. So

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Speaker 4: you're going to Susan from American Airlines. Thank you, Susan.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Susan. We appreciate you, and we appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you guys at watch. Thank you so very much.

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Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your day, be positive, take

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