WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Still Guessing 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:19.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:24.720 Next flowing down the sightlines, He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:37.000 presented by Wingstop Where Flavor Gets Its Wings. Hey, Hey, Hey, 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.479 here we go live from the s WBC Morgan's living 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.400 room in Frisco, Texas. Have we got a treat for 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.839 the next two days for all of you listening. We 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.400 have rotated our lineups for all of our shows, but 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.960 this will still be your favorite show, brought to you 0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:00.440 by your favorite wing provider, Wingstop Where Flavor Gets Its Wings. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.880 I am Shannon Gross, and I am please to announce 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.160 that I am joined. Today. We mixed it up Fellas 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:14.640 and Lady and everybody else listening. Rob Phillips underneath me. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:21.679 That sounded really weird over here to all right and 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:26.679 Ambar Garcia, everybody from other shows. We have mixed it 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.440 up this week for the bye week. We're all over 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.440 the place, and I really, I really feel bad for 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.760 all of you guys because we are gonna have so 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.119 much fun the next two days. You're not gonna want 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.559 to go back to your normal shows. I mean, this 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.920 is the one show on the Dallas Cowboys Network where 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.120 we never we never have a run of show, we 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.960 never have anything schedule to talk about. We just talk 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.360 because we enjoy each other and we'd like football, and 0:01:54.480 --> 0:02:00.280 specifically we like Cowboys football. So let's start. Don't you 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.480 introduce yourselves? For those of those that are listening that 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.840 aren't familiar with the Rob kick it off. Hi, I name, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.240 My name is Rob Phillips, talking Cowboys fame, and I 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.720 just went all right, Rob Phillips, and I just went 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.800 through puberty. Hello, Hello there, h excuse me. I just 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.000 wanted to kick it off by first of all, this 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.880 this show has something in common. We all, in one 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.560 form or another. We all have babies at home, so 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.080 we're all trying to deal with lack of sleep. But 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.280 we're still gonna bring it today. I'm still gonna bring 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.920 it today. And I just wanted to give the host 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.880 a happy birthday shout out today, Shannon, Happy birthday. Oh okay, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:43.320 happy birthday. Thank you, Rob. Chris. Something for the man. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:51.160 Something I got nothing flowers wings donuts. Chris is like, yeah, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:58.239 Chris got nothing, just like every other kid. Thank you, Rob. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:06.200 Welcome Danny Danny of former LSU Fame, Dallas Cowboys, Chicago 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.799 Bear now fortunate enough to work with them on a 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.359 daily basis. For the Dallas Cowboys. Danny introduce yourself, Well, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.400 well you actually just did, so I'm gonna just I'll 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.040 just leave it there and I'll just I'll just I'll 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.519 just asked this question. So you guys were like sitting sitting, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.120 sitting their fingering out what we're gonna do for the 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.519 bye weekend. We went with the Dallas Cowboys offensive line themes. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.760 So we just mix everything up and keep it consistent. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.720 Huh for the week that's you know, I mean, why 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.040 why mess up a theme that's been on going with 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.360 the you know on the field was transferred off the field. 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.360 This was Derek Eagleton's brain child. I actually suggested that 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.080 we should have a a host draft where we actually 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.720 draft everybody that's on our show. So next time we 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.720 do this, actually pull names out of the hat. You 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.320 have a special show to where it's just all mixing. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.640 You're not gonna tell everybody like who got picked first, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.320 who got picked last? Are you? Because I listen, I'm competitive, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.680 I'd be upset. And it was like black football, Hey, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:08.040 look the egos that we have on these shows between 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:13.680 you and Nick Eatman and Jesse, Holly and Isaiah. Though 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.440 we can break somebody's heart by letting them be the 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.760 last pick, so no, we won't do that. It would 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.000 just be names out of a hat. Cool Danny, Welcome 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.360 to the show at last, but definitely not least. Abbar 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.960 Garcia our Spanish I guess you're our Spanish correspondent that 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.920 you you produce all things, so most cowboys. What am 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.479 I leaving out here? Aba? By the way, you have 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.000 the best background of anyone on any of these shows. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:42.320 You look very well and the cutest cream colored wall. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.919 Thank you, thank you. I mean there's nothing, There's not 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.400 much else to say that. I'm a female, I speak Spanish. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:56.880 I'm on here in an all male show too. Hopefully 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.760 teach you guys some manner as you should know, Shannon, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.960 ladies go first and you left me last. But that's okay. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.839 That's why I'm here, so hopefully you learn something. I say, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:17.120 I saved the best for last day. Yes, it wasn't 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.400 a manners thing, it was just best for last on 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.880 this show. So there you go. There we are. We 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.039 are the Motley crew that will be in this time 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:31.080 slot today and tomorrow, and then we're taking Thursday Friday 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.159 off to regroup for the bye week, and then we'll 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.279 be back in our normal time slot starting Monday of 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.800 next week. So let's now that we've killed the first 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.560 five minutes of the show getting to know everybody, let's 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.360 get right into it. Amber. I will let you go first, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.039 since you are a lady, and you will, you know, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.279 point it out that I was a jerk and didn't 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:55.000 introduce you first. Give me, give me your recap. Let's 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.520 just go. Since we haven't all been together really in 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.200 the same place, and this is really the first time 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.520 we've kind of hung out chatted together since the season started. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.600 Normally we're in the office. You know, all of our 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.080 deaths are within probably twenty feet of each other, and 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.600 you know, we're always talking about football, always talking about 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.960 what's going on, you know, on the field, off the field. Amber, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.400 what's your take so far? You know, a little bit 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.960 over halfway through the season, coming up on the bye week. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.240 I have a feeling we're all gonna have about the 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.280 same take, but you kick us off. Tell us what 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:35.600 do you think about the season so far? Yeah? Go, okay, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:42.040 My take on the season a good feedback Amber, Okay, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:45.919 bab No, I think. I mean, I've been kind of 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:50.160 over this whole team for a while now. I'm just 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.960 you know, I'm tired of waiting every year for it 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.200 to happen, for us to get past that first round 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.880 or second round of the playoffs. And it's just it 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.440 sucks when every year something there's a change and you 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.360 create new hope and then you see the results that 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.040 we've been seeing for the past few years. For this year, 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:16.960 it was a lot different because we had major changes. Sorry, 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.520 we had major changes, especially in the coaching stuff. So 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.720 you got new hopes and you got a new team, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.000 and then you start seeing twenty twenty all the things 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.080 that have happened with COVID, no preseason games and all 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.080 of that, and then you see how it affected the team, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.320 and then injuries here and there, and then you get 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.240 into the games and see how the team is performing. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.040 It's a crap. Here we go another year where we 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.920 don't get to actually see a great result at the end, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.920 and I've been kind of over it. But then last 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.560 weekend watching the game against the Steelers, I guess I'm 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.240 a sucker for the Cowboys because they always pulled me 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.160 back in, so they are starting to pull me back 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.280 in and maybe in my head, I'm like, Okay, maybe 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:07.000 maybe they can start turning things around, especially when when 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.080 you look at your opponents in the division and how 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.400 bad the NFC East is and to the fact that 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.520 maybe you can turn the page and start playing some 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:22.560 more competitive football. So not much else to say there. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.720 They just always suck me back in. So that's basically it. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.040 I'm in for the ride and still waiting to see 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.320 what's going to happen after the week get back from 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.920 the bye week, Amber, I would I would venture to 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.040 say you are probably ninety nine percent of our fan 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:43.960 base because they have this team has a way of 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.800 raising your expectations before the season starts, coming in below 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:55.360 usually below those expectations. You're done with them, and then 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.520 they do something like they did Sunday and you're right 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.000 back in it and you're like, okay, well now I 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.920 have this listen this to forward to, so you're not alone. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.040 You're not alone. Danny. What's your take so far all 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:09.800 the season? Uh? Yeah, so we we we aren't very good. Um. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.720 The most the most shocking part about the season so 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.079 far has been defensively, to me, the lack of effort 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.960 out there, Like I don't think we have a whole 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.400 bunch of Star Wars out there, a whole bunch of 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.960 all pros. But I think as you've seen the last 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.240 couple of games, that you know, max effort can eliminate 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.160 a lot of those mistakes that you have been seeing 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.800 in previous games. And the fact that we started off 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.520 the season playing so lack of daisical was so surprising 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.320 to me, which leaned in my mind, you know, sort 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.600 of to the coaching staff. And then offensively, I'm shocked 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.520 at how you know, uninvolved Amari Cooper has been in 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.360 the in the game, and then kind of how uninvolved 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.439 Zeke started off in the season, and it leaned to me. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.840 You know, when I was going through Listen watching the draft, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.280 it was, man, we have all these weapons, and then 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.920 we got to see Lamb and I'm like, man, you know, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.120 there's a point where you can have too much. And 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.680 then you know, that's when I started first getting worried 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.200 about Zeke. And you know, it proved me right. So 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.200 you know, like unlike some people, you know, I've been 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.520 on that bandwagon so long and I've been hurt so 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.880 many times that I've flipped my my expectation to I 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.920 expect a little and then hope for a lot. So 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.440 I'm not really hurting as much, but it's it's just 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.600 more frustrating for me to see the lack of effort 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.080 out there. You know, then that goes down. So we 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.880 have another half of the season with really no expectation 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.320 to make the super Bowl. So you know, I'm just 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.760 here alone for the rout. All right, fair enough, Rob, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.040 You've been around this team for a long time, off 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.760 and on. Have you ever can you recall a season 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:48.040 where so many people had such high expectations and then 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.760 the result, like Danny said, just kind of kind of 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.840 came in flat. Can you recall a season like this? 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.960 I can recall a couple, but nothing, nothing quite like this, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.840 I think. Yeah. I mean I've been around since the 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.480 Parcels days off and on. You know, covered a couple 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.640 of Danny's teams, and there are a couple of seasons 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.040 in there. Twenty fifteen where you know, both seasons I'm 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.120 gonna reference, you lose your starting quarterback, Tony got hurt 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.760 in twenty fifteen. They finished four and twelve. Twenty ten 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.400 Romo gets hurt again and they start one and seven 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.960 and change coaches midstream. That's not going to happen here, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.120 but it is. It's similar in that Dac goes down 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.800 what else can go wrong? And at this point, kind 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.439 of like Danny said, you're playing for pride, you're playing 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.440 to just try to compete and show progress. And I 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.320 think we saw that the last couple of weeks. And 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.559 I know technically they're still into the division, but right 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.280 now they're trying to just find progress with this new 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.320 coaching staff, the new schemes, and but no, I've never 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.640 seen anything quite like this man where and I don't 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.760 think anybody has in terms of you throw in the 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.920 pandemic with it, and there's just something different every single week. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.520 Mike reference that McCarthy reference that couple days ago, that 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.560 every week it's something, whether it's an injury, even on 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.640 the bye week. This week we're supposed to all catch 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:12.040 our breath. That's hasn't really happened because there's a positive 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.360 test with the Steelers, so the Cowboys, out of precaution, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.480 have to meet at home do virtual stuff and no 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.480 practice Wednesday. So like there hasn't been a single normal 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.240 week since August and you know, hopefully that'll change, but 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.559 that's just kind of the theme of this season. Yeah, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.240 and I'll just throw this out there to the group 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.199 and y'all jump in and and do you did you 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.600 if Dak would not you reference Dak going down? Did 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.360 any of you have? You know, I know we were competitive, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.760 we were in every game, but the defense was so 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.439 bad up until this last week. You couldn't get the 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.480 run game going, the you know, the fumbles were an issue, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.679 the turnover deficit. Was there any part of you Now 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.240 it looks like, Okay, you got one game where things click. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.040 You had a good, the most all around performance that 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.840 you've had, you know, the entire season. You had a 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.480 hell of a play call, a game called by Kelly Moore, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.559 your special teams, the trickery and the you know, the 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.960 things that that Bones Fossil has been trying to do 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.760 all season. Finally, the execution part was there. You had 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.640 some you know, you had a little bit of life 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.480 at the quarter you know, the four string quarterback position. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.720 So you got a little bit of hope and you know, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.920 can you can you string a couple of these together 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.320 now to where the arrows pointing up. Can it stay 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.840 pointing up? But before this game, if you would have 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.800 had Dak, you know, I just kick it back to 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.079 you Rob real quick to start us off, since you 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.880 brought up the quarterback being out. If you had Dak, 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.000 do you think they could have gotten this together and 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.199 made some kind of a run or was this team 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.960 just so all over the place that it was just 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.240 doomed from the beginning. I don't know that you can 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.240 say that they would have because even before Dak got hurt, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.760 they had yet to play a complete game together, like 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.920 opplementary football. They haven't done it really all year long 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.320 until this last game. And like you guys said, I 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.960 mean the defense two best games of the season, these 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.520 last two games, but now you're seeing seeing a shift 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.439 with the offense where they can't finish drives, can't score touchdowns, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.440 and and then the special teams has been hit or miss. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.560 That was their best game last week for sure. So 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.320 I don't know, you know, I think they obviously missed Dak. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.840 He's their leader, he's their captain, he's arguably their best player. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:35.520 But you know, it's just tough because because you know, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.400 those first four games, four and a half games before 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.120 he got hurt. You know, there were a couple of 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.480 last second field goals from being oh and five. So 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.200 even with Dak, so until they're able to put it 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.640 all together, they're not going to have consistent success and 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.440 I think that's gonna be hard anyway, with the injuries 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.680 that they have right now. Yeah, and Danny, you you 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.840 played on this team, and you played on this team 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.120 when it was this team went as the quarterback goes. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.880 If your quarterback was clicking, this was a hell of 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.560 a team and it was a hard team to beat 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.960 if your quarterback was your starting quarterback was either injured 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.000 or you know, not having a good game or good season. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.240 That's kind of what the rest of the team did. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.160 This team has always seemed to, you know, not be 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.320 able to pick up the pieces when a key position 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.600 goes down on one side of the ball or the other, 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.720 Sean Lee goes out, they forget how to line up 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.000 with the goods. The quarterback goes out, they don't they 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.080 can't score points. So if Dak was still here, you know, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.000 we're speaking of hypotheticals, but you know, would this team, 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.000 would you still be interested in this team, invested in 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.720 this team? Well, listen, I'll answer that twofold. Listen, I'm 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.760 gonna be interested in invested this seeming no matter what, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.280 just because like you said, I'm I'm an alumni. This 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.640 is this is who gave me my shot here. But 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:57.280 as but as far as but um yeah, but as 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.920 far as uh us having a shot at back was 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.960 still here. Like Rob said, we are two players away 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.400 from from from not winning the game the whole season. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.960 And I think for me, as I watched the as 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.760 I watched from last year going into this year, I 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.200 think we have been the same team as then you 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.680 fall behind early and then we find a way to 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.680 come back at the end. And for me being a 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.000 player out there, I can tell you that a lot 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.200 of times when teams get a big lead on you, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.480 they take their foot off the gas, the defensive coordinator 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.640 calls the game a little different, and that's how teams 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.480 are allowed to come back in the game because they're 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.080 playing not to give up points and hope the other 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.440 teams run out of time before they can score enough. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.920 So I think we started to see that this season 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.880 as well. And if you look back at the teams 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.600 then we beat, they had some horrible defenses. As you 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.280 watch them play games after they've played us. So I 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.440 don't think our offense was playing as well as it 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.080 needed to, especially in the first half, and then you 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.560 pile along the defense and power along the special teams. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.560 I think we were in for a long season of 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.120 a lot of mistakes. Luckily, a couple of guys got fired, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.360 and then you see the defense playing a little harder, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.880 so you know, hopefully that would have been an issue 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.320 with I don't think we would have been in the 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.320 running for for a long playoff run. All right, Well, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.520 we're in the running for a long playoff. 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Oh, 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.960 don't do it on the team when he was here 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.680 spot only a specialties. Do not do not give it 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.480 a safety a safety scouting report. Police, you were great 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:11.480 an everything. Come on, Danny was the consummate professional and 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.680 a terrific, terrific special teams player. I mean what I got? 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:21.439 I mean? Joe D. Camillis special teams coach with the Cowboys, 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:26.320 reunited with him in Chicago. Correct, because of what Danny 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.560 brought to the table, and that were what we saw 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.119 in the game on Sunday. We don't talk about special 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.639 teams enough, but special teams almost won the Cowboys a 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.880 football game against an undefeated team on Sunday. It's it's 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:42.320 a huge underrated part of the game. And Danny, what 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.920 have you seen from special teams? You know, we heard 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.399 about Fossil coming in and changing the game and what 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.439 he did in New England and what he did, you know, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:55.080 what he's done it throughout his career. What have you 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.879 seen so far? Have they tried to be too cute? 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.720 Because it seems like every game and it's been a 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.720 long time since special teams has been a strong point 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.520 on this team. Like I tried to think back, like 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.840 when was special teams a threat on this team? And 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.520 you have to go back to at least when Duwayne 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:14.040 Harris was here, which was six seven years ago. Probably 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.360 what have they what have you seen so far? They're 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.600 getting too cute or is that what they need to 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:23.480 do to make special teams special again? For the let 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.240 me start by saying this, um, if you listen to 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.160 the players louds. You've heard me say that our defensive 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.919 MVP has been CJ Goodwe uh, he's he's made the 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.400 most plays. He's probably he's probably made the most impactful 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.920 plays of the season to save us against the Falcons. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.119 Um as far as its bonds, sometimes I think we 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.399 get a little bit too cute. Like I said, if 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.440