Speaker 1: Hey, horror Hive, Welcome back to another episode guys of
Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions. Um, we were planning ongoing dark this week,
Speaker 1: because god damn, can y'all believe it's it's been only
Speaker 1: about a week. Um, we have been going through so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate all of the kind words. UM, clearly I
Speaker 1: am a little better now. I have been out protesting
Speaker 1: here in New York City, and I just want to
Speaker 1: give shout outs to everyone who has done their part,
Speaker 1: for those of you who have been out protesting, for
Speaker 1: those of you who have donated, for those of you
Speaker 1: voting and telling your peers to vote. I just want
Speaker 1: to thank you all. Um. Of course, y'all know we
Speaker 1: talk a lot about sex and just a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of raunchiness, and right now we just kind of felt that,
Speaker 1: how how do we do that? How do we do
Speaker 1: that right now? How do we get through the laughs
Speaker 1: and the jokes and all of these things? And so
Speaker 1: we and I decided that for this week's episode we
Speaker 1: would compile, um, just some previous conversations over the last
Speaker 1: three and a half years that we have had regarding
Speaker 1: our experience and trauma with police brutality, with racism, with
Speaker 1: interracial dating with UM our white listeners UM and their
Speaker 1: white privilege coming to us about certain topics, and also
Speaker 1: even a conversation we had on our Patreon regarding the
Speaker 1: use of the in word within the Latino community. UM.
Speaker 1: As you guys know, this fight is not anything new
Speaker 1: from the sixties to the seventies, for centuries and centuries
Speaker 1: or two now, we have been fighting the same fight,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to let you guys know that outside
Speaker 1: of fighting for the comfortable altity and making everyone within
Speaker 1: the sex space in the black community more comfortable, that
Speaker 1: we have brought many topics to the forefront. And I
Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of resurface and and relive some
Speaker 1: of these moments that Weezy and I have shared on
Speaker 1: this platform with bringing certain injustices and certain topics to
Speaker 1: to light once again. During this time again, I want
Speaker 1: to give a an R I P as well as
Speaker 1: a fight for justice for George Floyd mad are Y
Speaker 1: and more important, most importantly UM in my eyes and
Speaker 1: for this specific platform Brianna Taylor as having a platform
Speaker 1: specifically focused I would say for black women. UM. I
Speaker 1: think this has brought a hard time for all of us. UM.
Speaker 1: And seeing that we are all standing strong in the
Speaker 1: fight for black men, but kind of you know, a
Speaker 1: little fear and if we will get the same fight
Speaker 1: as black women. UM, Sandra Bland. There's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of just cases reopening up, UM that involved black women,
Speaker 1: and I do feel like black women are not kind
Speaker 1: of given the same voice. And that's what this platform does.
Speaker 1: We want to continue to give voices to black women. UM.
Speaker 1: And and again, I just want to thank you guys
Speaker 1: for all of your kind words. UM. This next clip
Speaker 1: that you were about to hear, UM goes into what
Speaker 1: I mentioned during my statement UM in the PTSD that
Speaker 1: I feel like I have experienced over the last few
Speaker 1: years with witnessing black men being taken at the hands
Speaker 1: of police officers. And so here it is UM me
Speaker 1: talking about my experience in London and how I I
Speaker 1: was able to realize that I am fucking affected by
Speaker 1: this ship. UM again, UM, go ahead and listen. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I hope you enjoy, but
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and relive these moments over the past
Speaker 1: years of horrible decisions. UM. So I wanted to, I
Speaker 1: guess share a story because this opened up, UM. Something
Speaker 1: to me so while while I was in London, I
Speaker 1: did London and Paris in a weekend. Because I'm looking crazy.
Speaker 1: I was drunk the whole time. But first off, I
Speaker 1: felt how rich I was too, because which we spent
Speaker 1: probably four dollars in food just on the Friday, between
Speaker 1: food and drinks, and I don't even eat a lot.
Speaker 1: That was sucking crumpets and fucking dump dumplings and dim
Speaker 1: sum and ship. Yeah, we went to the shard. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a restaurant called Hu Tongue on the top
Speaker 1: of the shard. Beautiful was drinking porn Star Martinez the
Speaker 1: whole time. Let me a porn so a fucking good then,
Speaker 1: I love just drinking. My ship's so good. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the point start is, by the way, so's
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's like only in Europe. I've
Speaker 1: never been offered a point start in the state here.
Speaker 1: Yet you can make it. I asked the ingredients fun
Speaker 1: it's pomegranted, it's super sweet, passion for you, sorry, passion
Speaker 1: for to sitting in there, super juicy, and then you
Speaker 1: get a shot of champagne next to it. Is that
Speaker 1: champagne and maybe you was that it was prosecco champagne.
Speaker 1: You just ain't know. You saw a little bubbls got excited.
Speaker 1: That's what that was. No, But so anyways, we went
Speaker 1: to sketch and then we had dinner reservations at Novikov
Speaker 1: and my homegirl Adriana shout out to her she had
Speaker 1: um us on the guest list because she was like,
Speaker 1: she didn't really want to be around Nick. She wanted
Speaker 1: to meet new niggas, so she was like, I got
Speaker 1: us on the guest list. Hillsted us at the table
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bitch, I don't do promoter tables even
Speaker 1: in the States, but okay, I'm in another country. I'll
Speaker 1: do it. So instead of catching an uber to the club,
Speaker 1: one of the dudes that really like her right now
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'll pick y'all up and drop y'all
Speaker 1: off at the club. And in her eyes, she's like,
Speaker 1: well now, bitch, we ain't gotta pay for an uber
Speaker 1: seeing real innocent right wrong, he picks us up from
Speaker 1: the fucking dinner. We go like, I guess I'll share
Speaker 1: the whole story because but I'll make it short. We
Speaker 1: drove about fifteen minutes away and we noticed We're still
Speaker 1: in the car. The club is only about five minutes
Speaker 1: around the corner type ship. So we're like, what direction
Speaker 1: are we going in? Because my friend is not recognizing
Speaker 1: the direction we're going in. This nigga is like, nah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go pick something up. No, my nigga. I
Speaker 1: hopped out of the car so quick. I said, ma'am,
Speaker 1: we're calling an uber because what you're not gonna do
Speaker 1: is pick anything up while I'm in the car with you.
Speaker 1: And there was Nigerian's no shade. But you either a
Speaker 1: businessman or you're a scama or a street nigga. Whatever
Speaker 1: you are, you're going to pick something up, you ain't
Speaker 1: having it in a car with me because I know
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, out of goddamn weed and you
Speaker 1: need to go pick it up. But it's now now
Speaker 1: to me, that's a run. I'm not coming with you
Speaker 1: on your runs. So I hop out the car and
Speaker 1: he's like, nah, baby, girl, wouldn't do that to you.
Speaker 1: Da man, get back in, Okay, I'll take you out
Speaker 1: to the club. We get around the corner from the club,
Speaker 1: that's the sound of the police. We get pulled over,
Speaker 1: but it's a van. Fine. Police jump out of the
Speaker 1: fucking van. Niggas literally knock on the window, ask him
Speaker 1: to pull it down. He pulled it down. He's being
Speaker 1: very like, respectable high officer was the problem because we
Speaker 1: did we did absolutely nothing wrong. So he rolls it
Speaker 1: down and he's like, where are y'all going tonight? D
Speaker 1: Can I ask all of you guys to step out
Speaker 1: of the car. Police we're literally on literally and I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at my homegirl like, bitch, I told
Speaker 1: you to get you see if you would have listened
Speaker 1: to me, bitch, And I'm looking at my homegirl like, bitch,
Speaker 1: what the funk is going on? Next thing? I know
Speaker 1: she's a German citizen. I'm a U. S. Citizen. They
Speaker 1: take both of our my pastport her I D card
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what you need? Like here it is,
Speaker 1: I can give you my information what you need my
Speaker 1: card for. She takes it. She's like, oh, as long
Speaker 1: as we don't find anything in the vehicle, will give
Speaker 1: it back. They have two police officers, all doors open,
Speaker 1: trunk open, flashlight looking under everything, and I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at her and I'm ting she told me that that's
Speaker 1: what I said. That tag is marked and whether it's
Speaker 1: for drugs or whatever. They're looking to get that nig
Speaker 1: Mercedes nice heart. He's telling it's because I'm black. His
Speaker 1: windows tended ain't see you was black from behind it.
Speaker 1: So I'm literally looking at Adriana and I said, I
Speaker 1: don't think you understand money. My friend is much younger
Speaker 1: than me. This is her first time experience. She's twenty too.
Speaker 1: That has happened to me before. So I'm looking at
Speaker 1: her and I'm just like, you don't under stand, Adriana.
Speaker 1: If they find as little as a blunt in that car,
Speaker 1: we are all going to jail. So I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: talking to the other officer and um, and I'm just like, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't even know these motherfucker's. I just landed today.
Speaker 1: You could look at the passports. I was, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't know these people, Like she just met him a
Speaker 1: month ago, and it's because he drove by a light there, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: we all know these niggs like that. And I'm literally
Speaker 1: like trying to say, I don't they. Then I was
Speaker 1: like they, technically she's just sitting with somebody, you know, now,
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much bitch. And I was like
Speaker 1: they technically are Uber driver. Then I almost got away.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, is this an Uber driver? I said, technically,
Speaker 1: but we didn't call on the UBERT so they wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to buy that. So they're still looking. So this
Speaker 1: is where a few things happened to me, and this
Speaker 1: is what I wanted to share with with the listeners.
Speaker 1: So he starts getting the other money. There's two niggas
Speaker 1: one in the van. I'll know. This is another reason
Speaker 1: why I got scared. As we're all pulled out, the
Speaker 1: drivers already handcuffed, and I'm just looking like Mitch White
Speaker 1: he did in handcuffs. So as yeah, as he's in handcuffs,
Speaker 1: they're questioning us. He's trying to say sorry to her.
Speaker 1: But now he's starting to get slick with the cops.
Speaker 1: And this is where I realized, and I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how much I had been affected, that I have PTSD
Speaker 1: from what's going on here in the States. And as
Speaker 1: he's starting to get snappy with the officer, I'm yelling
Speaker 1: at him at this point, like do exactly what he says,
Speaker 1: stop with the smart mouth, stop getting slick, give him
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. Let's wait till the car is searched.
Speaker 1: Stop talking to him like that, like I'm literally telling yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm by the way. I only mentioned that because
Speaker 1: like in France, and he went to France, they were
Speaker 1: big rifles to not in France yellow jackets is a
Speaker 1: big protesting thing going on, but they shoot out these
Speaker 1: metal kind of balls. They're not they can't kill you,
Speaker 1: but they'll like maybe knock off something. But in London
Speaker 1: they do have guns. So so he's I mean, I was,
Speaker 1: I was just I was thinking, well, at this point,
Speaker 1: I was already coming up with how I was going
Speaker 1: to have my locked up a broad episode. I was
Speaker 1: already thinking like content, I was already us do you
Speaker 1: know that's what the fun My friend said as soon
Speaker 1: as I fucking told her in the car, let me
Speaker 1: get back to the sorry, so I can tell you
Speaker 1: how I was crying like a pussy. So finally they
Speaker 1: find nothing. In the car, we get our, I d
Speaker 1: s back, I said, he joan. We walk into the globo.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, British, I have no gun. No gun,
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. I apologize. That means that's why he
Speaker 1: was talking. Maybe that's why he was talking. I thought
Speaker 1: that I thought that the UK was one of the
Speaker 1: own having guns. Okay, okay, that's why they're always like
Speaker 1: six people taking someone out. Well, sorry, said there was
Speaker 1: six cops well in this car at once, so we're
Speaker 1: all getting there's two check in the car, there's two questioning,
Speaker 1: So that's he's talking slick to the one officer and
Speaker 1: the other officers with us. So finally they come back
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, nothing's been found in the car.
Speaker 1: They give us our passport and I d back and
Speaker 1: we start walking away. I'm like, Adriana, we'veen the motherfucking
Speaker 1: walks to the club. So we walked back. They let
Speaker 1: him go as well. They uncuff him, and he comes
Speaker 1: running to us at the end of the sidewalk trying
Speaker 1: to apologize, saying he's sorry, And all I do is
Speaker 1: burst into tears and I stay back home. They kill y'all,
Speaker 1: And that's all I kept saying, because he was so like,
Speaker 1: getting so snappy with him, and I just did not
Speaker 1: want to be a part of like I'm about to
Speaker 1: cry now. They were like, you're so pussy, but I
Speaker 1: literally was like I didn't realize how much seeing all
Speaker 1: these black men die from the police affected me because
Speaker 1: I don't put myself in those situations. And to be
Speaker 1: in that situation like I'm literally like I literally had
Speaker 1: to tell my mom I said, I think I need
Speaker 1: therapy now. Like I didn't realize that me seeing the
Speaker 1: videos on Instagram, me reading the news articles and seeing
Speaker 1: how many of our black men die, being in that
Speaker 1: situation right there, I was just like I was scared
Speaker 1: for him. I was scared for me because I know
Speaker 1: they looked at were black women, so I know they
Speaker 1: wanted all of us gone, and I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: it affected me. So before I go to cry, I
Speaker 1: go to say, this is why I realized when we
Speaker 1: talk about dealing with hood niggas, street niggas, scammers, this
Speaker 1: is why I know I don't put myself in those
Speaker 1: positions because truth is many. The sad thing about it
Speaker 1: is it ain't gonna take a hood No, no, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna take ni gonna die. However, my friend just
Speaker 1: got a new job, I said, just because we were
Speaker 1: in the car with them, this would have affected your
Speaker 1: new job. I said, do you think if I would
Speaker 1: have just called my my my job and said, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm in jail right now for drugs
Speaker 1: because that's what they have me in here under wait
Speaker 1: till I get out. No, I would have lost my job.
Speaker 1: And so even it's something that and this is a
Speaker 1: tip to you ladies who if you're into men who
Speaker 1: may sell narcotics or carry around large loads of narcotics
Speaker 1: or anything that could cause him to go to jail,
Speaker 1: don't get in the car read listen back to that might.
Speaker 1: I just add that it doesn't even matter at this
Speaker 1: point if you are writing with anybody with drugs UM.
Speaker 1: At this point, my tip is to just be safe
Speaker 1: when you walk out of your door. UM. We have
Speaker 1: seen black men taken from US for selling cigarettes, for
Speaker 1: being accused of using a counterfeit ten dollar bill. Um.
Speaker 1: We have seen people lose their lives for sitting in
Speaker 1: their living room. UM. So even with that experience, and
Speaker 1: of course me feeling as though we were being pulled
Speaker 1: over for a drug related offense, UM, because that's what
Speaker 1: they were searching for in the vehicle. Literally, just to
Speaker 1: know you can be pulled over for driving wall black. UM.
Speaker 1: So again this is just this is all a lot.
Speaker 1: We know it's a lot. UM. And this next clip
Speaker 1: you're about to hear, UM, actually comes from of a
Speaker 1: place of frustration. UM, we have this podcast as black
Speaker 1: as fuck for a reason. We have not shied away
Speaker 1: from that. Again, shout out to our twenty seven white listeners.
Speaker 1: But this show is for us UM. And so in
Speaker 1: the next clip, you are about to hear wheezy kind
Speaker 1: of read for filth um, someone who felt offended that
Speaker 1: we made this platform for us UM. And you can
Speaker 1: kind of hear pretty much both of our sentiments on
Speaker 1: our thoughts on that. Shout out to our favorite one
Speaker 1: of our favorite podcasts to read. Okay, we you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta read. We never really go off on anybody.
Speaker 1: And Mandy replied to this girl and she is very lucky.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say her name, but I'm just going
Speaker 1: to try to all right, I'm still I'm so irritated
Speaker 1: because I just remembered about this. So this girl writes
Speaker 1: in UM on a picture of Lisa spliffs in who
Speaker 1: came and if you guys got to hear that episode,
Speaker 1: She's a finndom who Michelle Hope describes very radical. She
Speaker 1: had a lot of opinions. She used the word white
Speaker 1: supremacy a lot, and UM had a lot of anger.
Speaker 1: She's been violated in a lot of ways, so she
Speaker 1: told her story. Anyway, Here is the comment that please
Speaker 1: don't are you going to read it all? Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Okay, still listen to this. Tried it and
Speaker 1: then y'all can come up with your own opinion. I
Speaker 1: think I think that we is overreacting. Um I I
Speaker 1: responded in a fine way, like you responded the way
Speaker 1: that you should have nicely, and I'm not No, you
Speaker 1: did what you should have done. We should be taking Listen,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you if this episode listen to the comment
Speaker 1: thank you? Can I get my black card back? Because
Speaker 1: Mandy about to lose. I'm talking about I'm overreacting. Bus
Speaker 1: listening this episode, nipple car back with that top. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't let them show, let them blow. It's very
Speaker 1: hot in here, which is why my tips are out.
Speaker 1: I had a sweatshirt on. Alright, alright, read this episode
Speaker 1: made me sick to my stomach. Forget the ignorance and
Speaker 1: prejudice that was pouring out of it. As a all
Speaker 1: caps white child sexual harassment victim, I'm telling you this.
Speaker 1: Take your explanation of child abuse with white supremacy, wrap
Speaker 1: it in a gift paper that didn't make sense and
Speaker 1: put it on the shelf never open again. I don't
Speaker 1: think you realize you're denying women to their own experience.
Speaker 1: Women of all colors body shamed by men of all colors.
Speaker 1: The oppression of women's stems largely, when She's right on this,
Speaker 1: from men's desire for power and control. The same need
Speaker 1: which throughout history is driven men to try to conquer
Speaker 1: and subjugate other groups nations, and oppress other classes and
Speaker 1: groups in their own society, drives them to dominate an
Speaker 1: oppressed women. Since men feel they need to gain as
Speaker 1: much power and control as they can, they can steal
Speaker 1: away power and control from women. They deny women the
Speaker 1: right to make decisions so that they can make it
Speaker 1: for them, leave women unable to direct their own lives
Speaker 1: so they can do it for them. This is really long,
Speaker 1: guy on that part, Right, do do do all? Right?
Speaker 1: Since biological processes like sex, menstruation, breastfeeding, and even pregnancy
Speaker 1: we're discussing, women felt themselves disgusted too, and that brings
Speaker 1: me me to the sexual power that brings them to
Speaker 1: the sexual power women have over men. Men resent that feeling.
Speaker 1: It's a sign of weakness and women out to blame
Speaker 1: as they're the one to produce it, and that means
Speaker 1: men can't complete the domination over women. They may be
Speaker 1: able to force women to cover their bodies and faces
Speaker 1: like slaves, but any woman that's capable of arousing powerful
Speaker 1: and uncontrollable sexual impulses inside them at any moment. I
Speaker 1: got your call. I got that you call your podcast
Speaker 1: a black podcast, but you are so exclusive it hurts
Speaker 1: me on a socio economic level. Mandy reply turns that
Speaker 1: everyone has their own experiences. We've had many different people
Speaker 1: in the show. Sorry, police's experience is different from your own.
Speaker 1: Perhaps will have someone in the show that shares your views.
Speaker 1: I just want to all you something. I was read
Speaker 1: it and I got irritated, and I thought about the
Speaker 1: words socio economic and how has this impacted your money,
Speaker 1: or your job or your livelihood, because let's take it
Speaker 1: for a second. You love to capitalize that you were white,
Speaker 1: So on a socio economic level, how the fund did
Speaker 1: you get offended economically? I mean, really, when black podcasts
Speaker 1: are the minority, black people are the minority, what the
Speaker 1: funk are you? How are you really affected by hearing
Speaker 1: a black girl tell her fucking struggle, and then here
Speaker 1: you are are these white fucking tears about how you're
Speaker 1: left out, how the fund did Lisa feel her whole
Speaker 1: fucking life, or every fucking black girl that goes through ship,
Speaker 1: even especially if it's with the white man and someone saying, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you know it's okay, get over it. But now we
Speaker 1: got a cater to your motherfucking white ass on our
Speaker 1: black ass podcast, because god forbid, we have some black
Speaker 1: bitch on here talking about somebody looks like, Yo, daddy,
Speaker 1: know the funk? You didn't, And if it's such a problem,
Speaker 1: you should have ever have ever have followed our black asses,
Speaker 1: half black asses, whatever the funk you want to say,
Speaker 1: I haven't indulged. Didn't even bring it up. You sound dumb.
Speaker 1: I know it's a black podcast, but I'm hurt fit
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up. Do you know how many black
Speaker 1: girls have been heard? Do you know how many black
Speaker 1: girls were feeling Lisa not to mention how I was
Speaker 1: embarrassed that we had black men on here talking about
Speaker 1: Spanish women and how they're better. Do you know how
Speaker 1: many black girls were hurting? And where the funk were you?
Speaker 1: You weren't offended because your hair is good too. Fuck
Speaker 1: you out of fact, Monica, Marika, fuck you, fuck you,
Speaker 1: fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Most of the girls
Speaker 1: that are finndoms are white. Do you know how many
Speaker 1: black ones are there? Not a fucking lot. Not a
Speaker 1: fucking lot. She's feticized for being black, being big, being whatever,
Speaker 1: and here you are being hurt on a socio economic level.
Speaker 1: What does that even fucking mean? Did this podcast really
Speaker 1: take you away from work for the day because you
Speaker 1: were so fucked up? Anything that you listen to is
Speaker 1: catered towards you, is cater to your demographic. And one
Speaker 1: fucking black girl, I swear to God, like it all.
Speaker 1: She was this man, Yeah, this is a podcast for
Speaker 1: people look like And if I'm sorry because I feel
Speaker 1: like we've always like we ride for any fucking woman.
Speaker 1: But here are having to tear this bitch us a
Speaker 1: new asshole for having the nerve to bring another black
Speaker 1: bitch on our black ass podcast. Bit, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go and if it fucking sacrifices me the whole
Speaker 1: listener away, That's what she said. I don't roll the
Speaker 1: whole listener away. We just because you know what I
Speaker 1: told Mandy. When I started this show that I didn't
Speaker 1: want it to be a black podcast, wanted it to
Speaker 1: be inclusive of everyone. If that's what we had to do,
Speaker 1: that's what we had to do, because if you can't
Speaker 1: sit and listen to a black girl tell her feelings,
Speaker 1: then but you've gotta go, you gotta throw the whole
Speaker 1: person away. Fuck it, leave her one star review, suck
Speaker 1: my dick, you can kiss my ass. I don't even
Speaker 1: know Lisa. I never spoke to her again, but I
Speaker 1: can tell you this, I get it, and bitch a
Speaker 1: lot of other white people that listen to it got it.
Speaker 1: And no one sa out there and said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's talking so much about white people and can't stand
Speaker 1: the lean and I'm so a fed that bitch. Maybe
Speaker 1: she was offended when you sat there and said you
Speaker 1: were hurt on a socio economic level. Bitch, How the
Speaker 1: fund did it affect you? I know you are so
Speaker 1: happy you got that ship out. That's all I had
Speaker 1: to say. And that was the read for today. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Crystal and Kid fury Um. This was her read,
Speaker 1: and I think that they would approve of this message,
Speaker 1: actually meant it, and mind you This is coming from
Speaker 1: someone with a white ass daddy, the fox white man
Speaker 1: words with white people, has friends that are white. I'm
Speaker 1: offended on a socio economic level. Bit, you took me
Speaker 1: out my goddamn job. I might lose money from our show.
Speaker 1: On an economic level from Talking Shop. You had all
Speaker 1: the nerve to do that ship on our goddamn Instagram
Speaker 1: and you're lucky bitch that man you wrote your ass
Speaker 1: back right. That's why I'm not taking that loss out
Speaker 1: of my money anyway. I'm done anyways. UM. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: guys that this is your first time listening, I promised
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen. And often She's just really angry about
Speaker 1: a comment that we received from one of our listeners.
Speaker 1: And I think it's good that, UM we expressed this. Um.
Speaker 1: We show you guys so much love and we appreciate
Speaker 1: all the love that you guys have given us. However,
Speaker 1: even on the last episode, we just talked about how
Speaker 1: people do shudge it us, UM, and so this was
Speaker 1: definitely one of the comments that we got back that
Speaker 1: you know, UM got a reaction. I'm still over reacting. UM.
Speaker 1: I think I mean you you said your points. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel that emotionally connected. Um, but before we're not
Speaker 1: gonna introduce her. I guess um our guest Michelle Hope
Speaker 1: has something to say about that, and um, well, um uh,
Speaker 1: it's warm in here. And um, I think that what
Speaker 1: we need to remember is that there is a long
Speaker 1: history of white feminists who are very racist. Long history. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think that what I'm hearing I did not.
Speaker 1: I don't know who this person is. I just walked
Speaker 1: into this mess. I do love Lisa. I met her
Speaker 1: Afro punk one year. I thought she's the baddest bitch ever.
Speaker 1: Where her nipples out, she goes hard. She goes so hard,
Speaker 1: but for a reason. But we ride for women people period. Man,
Speaker 1: that hard unless you're on Instagram. Mama, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to get into that, but I will. Well, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we all go through problems. But I do believe. I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom is white, and she is a feminist, and
Speaker 1: she is a lesbian, and she has been in the
Speaker 1: fight for a long time before I was even here.
Speaker 1: She was a part of the movement. Um. But even
Speaker 1: I have had to have come to Jesus moments with
Speaker 1: my mama. Like pause, Mama, you're a white woman, Like
Speaker 1: you don't walk down the street with people looking at
Speaker 1: you like what do you Or you don't walk into
Speaker 1: a store and people follow you around for the same
Speaker 1: time for the for reasons like oh, you might rob us.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was interesting when when my mother
Speaker 1: and I and I love my mother, and when my
Speaker 1: mother and I had that come to Jesus moment, you know,
Speaker 1: it was hard for her to hear, you know, from
Speaker 1: her grown child. But then you know, she left New York,
Speaker 1: she came to visit me from Indiana. She came to
Speaker 1: visit me, and she left and she went home, she processed,
Speaker 1: and she was like, wow, you're right right, She was like,
Speaker 1: you know, and and when I was growing it's totally
Speaker 1: a different experience. And when I said, my mother has
Speaker 1: always been a part of the movement, my mom has
Speaker 1: said on boards that really fought for women's equity. And she,
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, was on a board of
Speaker 1: women's arts and music festival that happened in Indiana. I
Speaker 1: always call it like Lilith Fair, before there was Lilith
Speaker 1: and when she was a part of that, after we
Speaker 1: had this kind of come to Jesus moment, and then
Speaker 1: she thought about it she we had a conversation and
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, Michelle, at that time when
Speaker 1: you were little, because I would go to these festivals
Speaker 1: because they had kids camp and it was super weird
Speaker 1: because it was like astro travel and dream catcher type
Speaker 1: vision boarding ship before it was possible. She was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and and she said, you know, the black women always
Speaker 1: said they needed their own kind of section in the space,
Speaker 1: and we would give them pushback, like why we're all
Speaker 1: fighting the same fight. And after we had that come
Speaker 1: to Jesus moment, she was like, Michelle, you taught me
Speaker 1: that I was being discriminatory. I was we should have
Speaker 1: created Hopefully, she even understands where Weezy's frustration came from.
Speaker 1: Instead of hearing you know, the anger and Wheezy's voice,
Speaker 1: she actually sits back, sits back and realizes that she's
Speaker 1: not sitting here shaming her or anything like that I was.
Speaker 1: She has to understand that the difference she felt like
Speaker 1: Lisa singled you know, people out or whatever, like she
Speaker 1: singled herself out to say I'm white and you did
Speaker 1: this time to people are going to have so many
Speaker 1: different experiences. Women that go through so many traumatic experiences
Speaker 1: with different men. You have to appreciate for each person's
Speaker 1: story for she said. Don't get me wrong, there's things
Speaker 1: I've heard that I'm like, dam, that's too much on
Speaker 1: different podcasts and stuff like that. But you can't ship
Speaker 1: on that person for it. And this is exactly why
Speaker 1: I don't want to do sexual harassment episode sometimes, because
Speaker 1: you never know someone's journey. And we didn't know Lisa
Speaker 1: would go there, and I'm grateful that she did, because
Speaker 1: how did you not know Lisa was gonna go there?
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Lisa was gonna talk about I
Speaker 1: don't know, because a part of Lisa's is stemming from
Speaker 1: her experience, and I'm all for that, um. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, and I lovely the other voice you
Speaker 1: heard in that episode was Michelle Hope shout out to her. UM.
Speaker 1: She actually joined me for the Brianna Taylor vigil um
Speaker 1: on Adam playing Powell and Harlem this this past weekend,
Speaker 1: and I just want to thank her for everything she's done.
Speaker 1: But just listening to this conversation was mm hmmm. I
Speaker 1: want to say triggering, but went into why my statement
Speaker 1: last week was so hard to get over. Mom even
Speaker 1: just called UM, and we've been having just the struggle
Speaker 1: in how we are communicating right now. As you guys know,
Speaker 1: I I I'm black as hell, but I was raised
Speaker 1: by a white mother, and there's just been some some
Speaker 1: difficulty in that. I do want to shout out also
Speaker 1: to the listeners who have reached out to me and
Speaker 1: my d M s UM for those who are not
Speaker 1: black but who are raising black children, and also the
Speaker 1: confusion that they're currently facing. UM. And And I talked
Speaker 1: to my mom literally yesterday, and she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with hearing that you hate white people. I
Speaker 1: know that you loved me, but she's like, she's hurt
Speaker 1: by how white people are and she hates that she's
Speaker 1: white sometimes because here she is raising three strong black women. UM.
Speaker 1: Her partner is black, her nieces and nephews are black,
Speaker 1: and and she has on out UM and protested in Orlando.
Speaker 1: And I'm grateful for that. But like I said, as
Speaker 1: far as UM, those white listeners and those non black
Speaker 1: people who are raising black children, the only thing I
Speaker 1: can say as far as advice is to educate yourself.
Speaker 1: And more than anything, I think what I've taken away
Speaker 1: from this is checking your own, check your mother's, your uncle's,
Speaker 1: your brothers, your sisters, those individuals who are not black,
Speaker 1: check them when they are wrong. I think that as
Speaker 1: black people, we have tried and tried and tried and
Speaker 1: tried again to tell y'all what the funk y'all are
Speaker 1: doing wrong, and we've shouted at the top of our lungs,
Speaker 1: and y'all just don't hear us. So when our white allies,
Speaker 1: and our Latina allies, and our people of color who
Speaker 1: are not black allies are asking us what the hell
Speaker 1: they can do, I would say, check your kind, check
Speaker 1: them when they are wrong, and let them know that
Speaker 1: they are wrong, and be willing to stand there and
Speaker 1: lose a coworker, lose a friend, because they are worth it.
Speaker 1: If they not fight in the same fight as you,
Speaker 1: they meant to be a part of us. The next
Speaker 1: clip I'm about to play, many of you may not
Speaker 1: have heard. It is a clip from a bonus episode
Speaker 1: with Brianda of the Super Trip Talk podcast, and we
Speaker 1: get into a pretty deep conversation regarding colorism and racism
Speaker 1: in the Latino community and whether we allow um the
Speaker 1: Latino community a pass on saying that the N word Um,
Speaker 1: we also get into the conversation regarding colorism and what
Speaker 1: Weezy and I have faced as biracial women having a
Speaker 1: black ass podcast and identifying as black women. Um, we
Speaker 1: get into that conversation as well. So buckle up, um,
Speaker 1: turn up the volume and get ready for this clip.
Speaker 1: Dominican look like they're they're black, like the dudes. I
Speaker 1: feel like they got a little extra curl. There's something
Speaker 1: about the curl pattern in their hair. Dude, we share
Speaker 1: an island with I t come on like it's we
Speaker 1: If you saw my family, it is the most diverse
Speaker 1: looking racial group of course, like my grandfather. My sister
Speaker 1: is black passing black passing. They used to think we
Speaker 1: were like friends every time we'd go out because we
Speaker 1: don't look alike. But she looks black passing my cousins.
Speaker 1: My grandfather is black. That's the interesting is that black passing.
Speaker 1: You know there's white passing, but why not just say
Speaker 1: she's looks for like, actually this is the whore high
Speaker 1: so they would understand. But for my listeners, I say
Speaker 1: black passing because they don't really they're not hip with
Speaker 1: those terms yet black, so I use it. It's like
Speaker 1: I've heard pass. I've heard black passing from like Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern people when they when they referenced Middle Eastern people,
Speaker 1: but I've never heard they're just people who say that
Speaker 1: Latinos aren't black, And I just think that's a very
Speaker 1: limited way of thinking, Like Latinos are the one of
Speaker 1: the most racially diverse groups of people. Like Latinos are black,
Speaker 1: Latinos are also white, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like a very odd statement to say we're starting hot.
Speaker 1: Where do you think that get in the psychedelic community
Speaker 1: there are mostly white. Because I was saying, like they
Speaker 1: fucking no like that there's in sensitive times and how
Speaker 1: people want to like be like that's interesting, I would
Speaker 1: you say, but I say black. And also my sister
Speaker 1: calls considers herself black. She has treated like a black person.
Speaker 1: She works at Boston Children's Hospital, and they'd be treating
Speaker 1: her like not the best, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And it fuck it sucks, especially as my sister, and
Speaker 1: like to be honest with you, when you were a Dominican,
Speaker 1: she was older than me and she always got treated
Speaker 1: worse because I was a little lighter, right, And that
Speaker 1: was that I saw as a kid, like even my
Speaker 1: mom My mom is a fucking cunt. Sometimes I think
Speaker 1: about the way she beat her I didn't get at treatment,
Speaker 1: you know, or the way my aunts would talk to
Speaker 1: my sister versus how they talk to me. Wow, and
Speaker 1: your own family, I mean, colorism is real with any
Speaker 1: family base. I mean to think, just to be hurtful,
Speaker 1: like I've seen I've seen conversations or like heard them
Speaker 1: within latinos talking about how maybe their family would whether
Speaker 1: it's pressing their hair, telling them something hard to find someone,
Speaker 1: or bleaching. But I've never heard about like beating on them. Fuck,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like you wouldn't believe I would do
Speaker 1: the same ship as a kid that my sister would
Speaker 1: do and my sister would get hit for it. These
Speaker 1: are things that I'm talking about in therapy now. I'm
Speaker 1: super close with my sister, who I said her birthdays
Speaker 1: today and I'm gonna I canceled my day to day
Speaker 1: to go to her because she was like, I don't
Speaker 1: feel in the kind of weight. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I owe my own sister kind of reparations for the
Speaker 1: amount of ship that I wasn't able to provide her
Speaker 1: as a kid, Like empathy or like seeing that she
Speaker 1: was going through a tougher time. She was also overweight.
Speaker 1: Imagine that, like it was just a lot and uh
Speaker 1: and so yeah, she's a black woman period if she
Speaker 1: she gets treat like that out so ninetheen like that's
Speaker 1: But the thing that really pisces me off was as
Speaker 1: a kid recounting memories and um, thinking about memories that
Speaker 1: I had that she does it and she was there
Speaker 1: for like I was recently talking about like a family
Speaker 1: reunion we had when we were like ten, and she
Speaker 1: remembers she didn't get fed what she didn't get fed
Speaker 1: at this party? And I was talking to her about
Speaker 1: this town culture that we had that was like amazing,
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, yeah, they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 1: You know this is this is awkward because so we've
Speaker 1: had the conversation about um, like the uncomfortablelity of even
Speaker 1: Latinos saying the N word um. And so even having
Speaker 1: the conversation with you, I guess this goes into why
Speaker 1: I don't like when they say it um because specifically
Speaker 1: growing up in Orlando and being friends like my friends
Speaker 1: growing up, UM, majority of them, even if they were black,
Speaker 1: they were either Jamaican or Haitian, just because of the
Speaker 1: side of time I grew up on. But my best
Speaker 1: friends were also Colombian and Mexican, and in terms of
Speaker 1: how they treated black people is why I don't want
Speaker 1: to give Latinos of any origin the right to use
Speaker 1: that word, because they have been just as oppressive or
Speaker 1: racist towards black people as white people. Black people also
Speaker 1: that we would all the black people colorism and ship.
Speaker 1: That's true, but what she's saying that But as far
Speaker 1: as it different, Yeah, I've had Latino friends. I've watched
Speaker 1: treat back people crazy. Tom. We're from Florida's so you've
Speaker 1: got a lot more like in schools, I honestly don't
Speaker 1: pep rallies were segregated. Everyone would bring their fucking flags.
Speaker 1: So I went to Oakridge High School. I want to
Speaker 1: walk in middle school like I went. I lived on
Speaker 1: on Oakridge on the west side of town, and then
Speaker 1: I went to high school in Pine Hills. So in Florida,
Speaker 1: like we would have pep rallies, and during pep rallies
Speaker 1: literally you would have your Jamaicans in a section, your
Speaker 1: Haitians in a section, your Mexicans, your Puerto Ricans, and
Speaker 1: everyone who would bring their flags, but we would segregate
Speaker 1: ourselves as teenagers based on what countries like we were from,
Speaker 1: and I prig Domican bro and my school specifically was
Speaker 1: like all of the schools that I went to were
Speaker 1: over nine black, like black or or or Latina. Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to any schools really with any white
Speaker 1: kids except for my freshman year I got into a
Speaker 1: Magnet program for TV production. Um. But me being around
Speaker 1: even my friends families growing up, Um, I remember them
Speaker 1: blaming me for their daughters dating black men. I remember, um, yes,
Speaker 1: my like literally like my my friend was Columbian growing
Speaker 1: up and your weezy um may actually meet some of
Speaker 1: them at the Orlando show. Um, but I just remember
Speaker 1: like them blaming me for them dating black men. I remember, um,
Speaker 1: certain music or people that we liked them being like
Speaker 1: using the N word in a bad way, like to
Speaker 1: where they literally to me. Latinos have oppressed and shown
Speaker 1: hatred towards black people the same way I've seen white
Speaker 1: people do. So I don't agree that all Latinos can.
Speaker 1: I never say, all, well, you said Latino shouldn't use
Speaker 1: the word, but there I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: them I have an issue with the Afro Latina and
Speaker 1: Latino blanket. The only close friend that I have that
Speaker 1: says that is Sharona's um, he's Afilatica. He'll say he's
Speaker 1: a Fi Latino. But I just really feel like like
Speaker 1: there's this other dude I know that talks about how
Speaker 1: he's a Fi Latino, and I feel like he does
Speaker 1: it so he can say naked. I know I'm being extra,
Speaker 1: it's a feeling. I feel like if there's a weight
Speaker 1: when you say it and like, oh no, this is
Speaker 1: like when Merro says the N word. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I understand. He's Dominican. He is our Dominican, so he's
Speaker 1: black as ship to me, Merro's black, Okay, he's Latino
Speaker 1: and Dominican is ship, so I'm gonna say both. But
Speaker 1: he's not black. Well, he is black Dominican. Actually, what
Speaker 1: is it gonna be? What is it? Guys? The black
Speaker 1: black Jesus is here. Here's why Meryl is what you
Speaker 1: would say is black passing, right, But there are a
Speaker 1: lot of Afro Latino people with I would even and
Speaker 1: this is just me looking at you, not even knowing you,
Speaker 1: I would even call you Afro Latina. Saw you but
Speaker 1: also don't think you're black passing. So I feel like
Speaker 1: nigga can't be used. Is that weird? I say, if
Speaker 1: there was a meter, the metric is the way people say.
Speaker 1: I can tell when you weren't raised in this, you
Speaker 1: weren't grandfathered in this, like when I can tell when
Speaker 1: people are just saying it to acclamate or like to
Speaker 1: like using it, like on some really eilish type ship,
Speaker 1: some appropriating ship. It's a weight, of course when you
Speaker 1: talk about it, it's hard to contextualize because it's a field.
Speaker 1: Just feel like Afro Latino doesn't give you a nigga pass.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but I believe that like Afro
Speaker 1: Latino people like when you are when you have black
Speaker 1: skin as an Afro Latino, I feel like that's different.
Speaker 1: I know what's sucked up because I'm I'm mixed, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and I don't have black skin.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a new thing that I've never seen before,
Speaker 1: that's come about since, like I would say, since I've
Speaker 1: turned twenty five. Suddenly I started seeing this thing. It's
Speaker 1: just moved up here though. This Dominicans are all around here.
Speaker 1: A yeah, I mean we're we're from Florida's so yes,
Speaker 1: New York is probably on the north on a well
Speaker 1: on a larger scale too, as far as Dominicans. But
Speaker 1: no one like there was no just white and black
Speaker 1: in any question for the can Afric Latino say the
Speaker 1: Ani world, No, ma'am, I think if I think so,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a note for me. It's however, I
Speaker 1: do have a there's a merrow thing for me. She
Speaker 1: just said, as Harrow is on the because I didn't
Speaker 1: know which one. Maybe it was Jesus or mayor I
Speaker 1: don't know which one. Do they not appear to both
Speaker 1: the black men? To you? No one looks hispanic? I'm sorry, Well,
Speaker 1: now he is. He looks missy, so he looks mixed.
Speaker 1: He's not. Jesus is clearly the black one. If you
Speaker 1: see both of them, I guess you're one looks easy
Speaker 1: because he's attained this huge success. And now like, does
Speaker 1: that give him credence incredibility to say the N word
Speaker 1: because that's classics. That's not fair. That's an interesting point
Speaker 1: of view because I and and I guess that's where
Speaker 1: it's like subjectivity because I just said, oh, if you're
Speaker 1: a Latilla the black skin, then I feel like you can't.
Speaker 1: When I looked at Mayor, I thought he was black.
Speaker 1: But see but see, here's the thing. To me, Um,
Speaker 1: your sister, yeah, even though she is in the skin
Speaker 1: of a and after Latina, and would I guess identify
Speaker 1: like view to us as someone who's black. Me to me,
Speaker 1: knowing that she grew up in a family that that
Speaker 1: was racist or presented. Oh, my sister says the N
Speaker 1: word right, right, but that's what I'm saying. But to me, like,
Speaker 1: even that's like with my friend now, Like to me,
Speaker 1: I joke all the time and I tell her she's
Speaker 1: white passing idan Like, Bro, don't say the N word
Speaker 1: on the phone with me, because I know the people
Speaker 1: that you grew up around are racist. So to me,
Speaker 1: being that you grew up around people who have that mentality,
Speaker 1: to me, that takes away the fact that you could
Speaker 1: use that N word even more because the people around
Speaker 1: you showcase that racism, which is why we don't let
Speaker 1: white people say the word, right, there's a level of
Speaker 1: oppression behind it. And to me, if you were oppressed
Speaker 1: in that space and you grew up and the people
Speaker 1: that you love and are around you are oppressing you
Speaker 1: because of the color of your skin and you being
Speaker 1: black presenting. I have a problem with you even using
Speaker 1: that word. I mean, at the end of you still
Speaker 1: friends with that person. When we talk on the phone,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll hang up on you, like, don't
Speaker 1: say that any word being her go we battle. I
Speaker 1: think I know what you're talking about, and I feel
Speaker 1: every time she says it, And so when we're talking,
Speaker 1: i'd be like, Bro, you can't say it, bro, only
Speaker 1: because she's I don't know what she's light skin. What
Speaker 1: is you look white? You white? Latino? Bro, I've a
Speaker 1: really interesting Yeah, that's white, and my Dominicans would think
Speaker 1: that's white, right, So, Bro, don't say that in word.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like, get the extra extras. Crazy
Speaker 1: that you brought this conversation because so we have such
Speaker 1: a diverse listenership in the war Hive. Um, of course,
Speaker 1: about to say that the diverse listenership. No, I'm about
Speaker 1: to bring up some ship that I would just say
Speaker 1: as far as the diverse listenership and our war Hive
Speaker 1: is is appreciated, but also real quick, um, I know
Speaker 1: we're talking about Latino's right now. But um, I recently
Speaker 1: got a d m um from a white girl and
Speaker 1: it was just like, um, I think on one of
Speaker 1: my stories from the podcast, and she asked if white
Speaker 1: people would feel comfortable coming to our show. She wanted
Speaker 1: to come, and I'm just like absolutely, like but just no,
Speaker 1: like we make fun of white people all the time.
Speaker 1: Like it's just kind of I wanted to hold because
Speaker 1: you guys are both gonna love this. I actually have
Speaker 1: already talked about this on an episode that's come out
Speaker 1: with Eddie, but love him. That episode was so fun.
Speaker 1: He was so funny when we mentioned science, Like Eddie
Speaker 1: is so touching go because I mentioned something about science
Speaker 1: and he goes man, he doesn't plean in science, are
Speaker 1: you serious? And then he comes but if she's smart, Um,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's great and I like that he fits,
Speaker 1: but he ain't got to Like I appreciate people like that.
Speaker 1: They don't have to like maneuver and put this voice on.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I read this with Eddie because he's Peruvian,
Speaker 1: he's Latino. But I really want to read this again
Speaker 1: so Mandy has never heard this. I was gonna do
Speaker 1: it on the episode with Mandy, but I was like it,
Speaker 1: I'll do it with Eddie because he's Latino. You guys
Speaker 1: have already heard this, but this is even better because
Speaker 1: you're a Latino. So this is from a patron who
Speaker 1: is top tier. UM wanted to let me know that
Speaker 1: before she um okay front. I went in on the
Speaker 1: last episode about my feelings on this. UM. I called
Speaker 1: to Latino friends of mine to ship. There's no signal
Speaker 1: in here. It's not loading, but UM, just to tell
Speaker 1: you what's going on. Mandy and I made a comment
Speaker 1: on an episode fifty six Valentines or Gallantine's where I
Speaker 1: told her I was on a cruise and that I said, oh,
Speaker 1: now that we're popping, I don't know when black people
Speaker 1: look at me if it's remember saying that, or or
Speaker 1: a black thing. And then Mandy said horrible decisions is
Speaker 1: a black thing, and I said, oh, you're right, that's true.
Speaker 1: Here is the listener. Damn, I didn't Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Hello easy. I know this may not get seen, but
Speaker 1: this has been bothering me for quite some time. I
Speaker 1: understand the motive behind your shows. UM outline is for
Speaker 1: the awareness in a black community. But I do get
Speaker 1: offended that I've paid fifteen dollars a month to hear
Speaker 1: about how horrible decisions is made for Black women when
Speaker 1: I'm in mixed ethnic Latino relate to your show as well.
Speaker 1: I've always been able to sideswipe the comments about Latino women,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I do appreciate the love for Afro Latino,
Speaker 1: but from Latinos from all areas on a spectrum can
Speaker 1: relate to you. I don't understand how you can just
Speaker 1: always make horrible decisions a black thing when your audience
Speaker 1: is so broad, especially when I know you're I know
Speaker 1: how you're all gonna feel, and I keep reading. Just
Speaker 1: let me get it out, especially when no matter the
Speaker 1: type of Latino we maybe we're still minorities. Yes, our
Speaker 1: struggles aren't the same, but we still go with one
Speaker 1: of the regular Black women have overcame slage with slavery, prejudice, segregation,
Speaker 1: and fixation for years, but so have we. A lot
Speaker 1: of our mothers and fathers left their countries with no stability, strength,
Speaker 1: or education just to make a better world for us.
Speaker 1: I didn't say we had it bad, but we have
Speaker 1: similar struggles. UM and the show relates to women. I
Speaker 1: feel like the show is a woman's show who don't
Speaker 1: have a comfort or space to speak on this stuff,
Speaker 1: because how do I ask my Mexican grandmother about sucking dick? Um,
Speaker 1: But it's too taboo to speak sexuality and a lot
Speaker 1: of cultures in societies. I just hope this comes across
Speaker 1: to you guys and understand this bothers him when I've
Speaker 1: invested in you guys and I'm placed in a category
Speaker 1: where you don't feel but I don't feel relatable, um
Speaker 1: or it doesn't feel relatable. I'm going to include the
Speaker 1: clip that bothered me. Please be aware of our love. Um.
Speaker 1: She also mentioned that she did this with another patron.
Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap up what I said because you
Speaker 1: guys heard it last week. But I thought about a
Speaker 1: lot what I said to her, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it isn't a woman show. That's true
Speaker 1: because we have any male patrons, but it is a
Speaker 1: black thing. She's just welcomed in the space. And then
Speaker 1: I told her, no one white has ever written me this,
Speaker 1: and they know this is a black show. No one
Speaker 1: white has ever written me this. The Latina's that come
Speaker 1: to the show and a joke all the time and
Speaker 1: say Maria and Marie is in the audience. They know
Speaker 1: it's a black ass fucking show. And you know one
Speaker 1: has ever said this. And what really pissed me off
Speaker 1: about what she said is I invested in it and
Speaker 1: you're making it a black thing, my nigga. I went
Speaker 1: to see Jesus and Mary about five times, probably spent
Speaker 1: over a rat and more than that over flying to
Speaker 1: their ship. And when Jesus goes on a Dominican fucking
Speaker 1: rent and I don't know what he's saying, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there appreciating it and not saying I invested in this
Speaker 1: and you didn't speak English because I know that's his ship.
Speaker 1: I know when I do Latino ship is their ship.
Speaker 1: I supported our cosh at a Desi show on an
Speaker 1: Indian comedy show. To be honest with you, half of
Speaker 1: the jokes there was many Indians there. I ain't really get,
Speaker 1: but I was like, fuck it, like he's funny. I'm
Speaker 1: fucking with it, like I want to support your ship?
Speaker 1: How dare she? And I'm getting more angry of it
Speaker 1: as the weeks go on, say that she was mad
Speaker 1: that she invested in it because it's not an inclusive thing.
Speaker 1: All these motherfucking white people on our Patreon, they ain't
Speaker 1: said a fucking word. And I know, out of the
Speaker 1: two of us, I've probably been way more out there
Speaker 1: with white people. And I'm the one that from the
Speaker 1: white guy fucker that says about white people like I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't like she said that black women overcame slavery, prejudice, svegicism. Um,
Speaker 1: if you look at what's going on just even right
Speaker 1: now in society, black women are still fighting struggles that
Speaker 1: outside of slavery, all of those other as far as
Speaker 1: like the war on wage gaps, Um, what black black
Speaker 1: women feeling still, the vegicism of of a lot of
Speaker 1: other cultures. There's still things that we like, we have not.
Speaker 1: I don't think that I need to even say that
Speaker 1: black women go through more than Latina because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop right there. I That's why it's funny because with
Speaker 1: the episode with the doctor where you said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about black women, I said, I'm talking about Latina
Speaker 1: women too. When they're with the rate that they're dying
Speaker 1: in the hospitals, it's literally a one percent difference. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they don't go through struggles, but we're not
Speaker 1: Latina chicks. So I don't a black girl talking, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have the Latino experience, no
Speaker 1: one in my family. I don't even want to say
Speaker 1: black girls go through more ship. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: right now, black la I'm not. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak to someone's experience Black women on
Speaker 1: on average, yes they do, but I'm not gonna speak
Speaker 1: to hers. None of us have been through slavers and
Speaker 1: and I me, or you or her, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to speak to that. I'm not gonna do this
Speaker 1: stupid fucking Oh black girls go through more ship than
Speaker 1: the Latino girls. I think that's sucking dumb. I think
Speaker 1: what should be said is you're talking the two girls
Speaker 1: that have grown up in a black community, have a
Speaker 1: black parent, identify as black women, and then mad that
Speaker 1: it's not. I think it's a woman thing, like, fuck you,
Speaker 1: it's not. And I didn't say the fucking shipped to
Speaker 1: her at first, But now I'm starting to kind of
Speaker 1: like get more angry because I know that like doing
Speaker 1: these shows, even Texas, which so many latinos. No one
Speaker 1: gave me that energy at all. And I'll be talking ship,
Speaker 1: No one gives me that energy at all. You know
Speaker 1: who wants to get fake mad about a Latino accident?
Speaker 1: Black girls that just fucking don't like me, White girls
Speaker 1: that don't like me. Them Latino chicks be laughing at
Speaker 1: my dam talking about how I sound like they're fucking grandma.
Speaker 1: She's really picking some ship that I don't even get.
Speaker 1: You know how many fucking shows there are that like
Speaker 1: have latinos and host them. Go listen to that. I
Speaker 1: don't listen to white sex podcast because I don't relate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I listen to a white
Speaker 1: comedy podcast because I have that kind of humor and
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. You're listening to this black sex pod
Speaker 1: because you feel like there's a comfortability in it that's
Speaker 1: sticking with you. I can't understand how you could even
Speaker 1: say you can't invest in it when it's still a
Speaker 1: black woman Mrs. Not to mention, you also said, oh,
Speaker 1: we're all minorities, so you can't do a minority business.
Speaker 1: I have to be more fucking inclusive to you. Like
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Like literally made this fucking space. And initially,
Speaker 1: when I had this podcast idea and I came to Mandy,
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell her I wanted it to be
Speaker 1: a black thing. The second episode, it was already a
Speaker 1: black fucking thing period. There was no going around it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not about to go back because the audience
Speaker 1: got bigger now and saying okay, no, never mind, it's
Speaker 1: not a black thing anymore, because she know what, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of black things that fucking blow up and
Speaker 1: people become millionaires. So I'm not gonna now shy away
Speaker 1: from it and say it's a woman thing, not when
Speaker 1: niggas being our d ms, Not when niggas are holding
Speaker 1: us down and also investing, much like you fucking shout
Speaker 1: out the Siggy every shot to say, I want to
Speaker 1: shout out Siggy. I want to. Yeah. The the amount
Speaker 1: of men who have come to our meet and greet
Speaker 1: and have put their their partners on is just I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Ashrams is the women listeners, but but but
Speaker 1: it goes to show that men are listening to this
Speaker 1: and bringing this to their homeboys, to their partners, to
Speaker 1: their to their cousins, to their friends. So I do
Speaker 1: want to shout out UM to our male listeners because
Speaker 1: I think that they are just as important UM to
Speaker 1: our growth as the women are. And so yes, UM,
Speaker 1: I know we've had conversations about feminism and women support
Speaker 1: and all their things, UM, and I know that we
Speaker 1: do talk about race a lot on this show as well.
Speaker 1: But I know that there has been a strong focus
Speaker 1: in making this is a space for people of color.
Speaker 1: But again, Weezie and I have a black experience where
Speaker 1: identifies black women, so outside of you guys maybe not
Speaker 1: feeling inclusive in all of the conversations. I not only
Speaker 1: want to apologize if you're offended, but also say sorry,
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck, it is what it is. The
Speaker 1: only thing I'll apologize for is ever saying a fucking selar,
Speaker 1: whether it's our word, and I want to apologize, like
Speaker 1: for the M word. I know you don't want to
Speaker 1: apologize for it, but to me, if you're a small
Speaker 1: person or if you're someone that has like mentally challenged
Speaker 1: people in your family and stuff like that, and we've
Speaker 1: ever said something like that, I'd apologize for that offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fucking apologize for making a joke
Speaker 1: on here. I say niggazaine ship. So if I want
Speaker 1: to say Latino niggazat ship, I'm grouping in all the negs.
Speaker 1: I say white niggation ship. I fucking give people I
Speaker 1: know for a fact equal trolling. Okay, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you tell me how you felt about
Speaker 1: the response? As so a couple of things, Um, this
Speaker 1: is such a small percentage of this is a very
Speaker 1: and she's an anomaly. This is a fan who identifies
Speaker 1: with a lot of what you guys have to say,
Speaker 1: and some something like triggered her, that sparked this this message.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't give that too much way. I
Speaker 1: don't even get mad at it because I just I
Speaker 1: see that this is someone who's maybe a little lost
Speaker 1: in her own space, I think, and she's projecting one.
Speaker 1: I have a question though, just popped into my head,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure some of your listening to have the
Speaker 1: question too, but they don't have the privilege of being
Speaker 1: in front of you. Do you guys ever get hate
Speaker 1: from black women like black women telling you guys that
Speaker 1: y'all are not all the time? Well that I'm always
Speaker 1: though in the beginning of the show, not so much
Speaker 1: now not now, but in the beginning of the show. Um,
Speaker 1: they said that our we didn't have enough dark skinned
Speaker 1: guests on the show, but that was true. They also said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't that wasn't bullshit. Um, I disagree. Um. They
Speaker 1: also they also said that um our experience, because of
Speaker 1: how we look and the color of our skin, means
Speaker 1: that we haven't gone through some of the black troubles
Speaker 1: that they feel like can we really relate to Like yes,
Speaker 1: So we've had that question from I think things to say.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I'll say. What she's saying is
Speaker 1: different from from those comments saying that if we've made
Speaker 1: blanket statements for black people, that's that's the fucking thing
Speaker 1: that they can say. Um. The only thing I don't
Speaker 1: agree with is people are picking choosy over who can
Speaker 1: say naked. And I've had a few people like y'all
Speaker 1: say it too much. This is an entitled she's an
Speaker 1: entitled fan. And by the way, the more you guys
Speaker 1: grow that she's gonna happen more, you know, like, let's
Speaker 1: just say, you guys put him blow if you guys
Speaker 1: are on a network. When you guys are on a network,
Speaker 1: I see this blowing major there are going to be
Speaker 1: certain things like executives being like, could we expand the
Speaker 1: way we speak about certain things so that we do
Speaker 1: include more minorities. Would you guys ever change your script
Speaker 1: or would you keep it not on the podcast on TV?
Speaker 1: I would. I don't know if Mandy feels the same,
Speaker 1: but I come from a TV film background and I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that that would be the first
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie like my first conversation, UM,
Speaker 1: we are possibly talking and wanting to expand the podcast
Speaker 1: into a TV form format, and just because we've grown
Speaker 1: an audience with being exactly who we are, I think
Speaker 1: one of my first questions was how many dicks, fox, pussies,
Speaker 1: niggas are we gonna have that we can say, like,
Speaker 1: I still want to be very true to us and
Speaker 1: not and not wash it down for how we speak,
Speaker 1: what our lingo is, what our demographic is, but I
Speaker 1: for sure would open it up to having Indians come
Speaker 1: on and express their actually down for that for TV
Speaker 1: versus the podcast. So there was a lot. There was
Speaker 1: a lot in that conversation. UM. Again, if you guys
Speaker 1: are interested in hearing more, you can join us UM
Speaker 1: for more discussions like this at patreon dot com Backslash
Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions, And before I leave you guys off with
Speaker 1: a final word from Wheezy, UM, I do want to
Speaker 1: leave off by saying and telling you to say her name.
Speaker 1: Pamela Turner, say her name, Sandra Bland, say her name,
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor, say her name, Karen Gains, say her name.
Speaker 1: A Tatiana Jefferson say her name, Chantel Davis. And again, guys,
Speaker 1: continue to educate yourself and let's continue to fight for
Speaker 1: justice for all of those wrongfully taken from us. UM.
Speaker 1: Just to let you know, guys, although you have heard
Speaker 1: my voice, this has been a collaborative effort um between
Speaker 1: Wheezy and I picking out these specific um moments in
Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions. And I am going to leave you guys
Speaker 1: with Wheezy. UM. She was just out of town and
Speaker 1: we definitely instead of not having an episode at all, UM,
Speaker 1: we wanted to put this out. And so I am
Speaker 1: leaving you guys with Wheezy and I want to thank
Speaker 1: you guys and everyone who has done their part in
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement and fighting for justice. So
Speaker 1: here goes Wheezy, guys and again, thank you, m H.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for getting to the end
Speaker 1: of this episode because I understand that this could have
Speaker 1: been triggering for you. And honestly, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: podcasts I don't listen to if I feel like they're
Speaker 1: gonna upset me. But I love you and I'm happy
Speaker 1: you're here, and if you've been a long time listening,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to know that you may have remembered those
Speaker 1: moments and been some of the ones to email us
Speaker 1: and tweet us and talk about your experiences too. I
Speaker 1: just want to say something before I let you go.
Speaker 1: If you don't mine uh, if you follow me on Instagram,
Speaker 1: you know about my Black Power wall and probably know
Speaker 1: that I'm a fan of Malcolm X. And while a
Speaker 1: lot of people like to argue and say that he
Speaker 1: changed his life for the better, he's still always believed,
Speaker 1: by any means necessary, that things needed to get done.
Speaker 1: And in regards two conversations that you may have, whether
Speaker 1: it be on social media or with someone you know
Speaker 1: or a colleague or someone even who's black, it says,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but why not peaceful and talk about looting
Speaker 1: and writing even if you wouldn't have done it yourself,
Speaker 1: even if you're not the person that would break a window.
Speaker 1: We all need to understand that looting and writing is war,
Speaker 1: and after war, people get what they want. War is
Speaker 1: for a purpose. No one just goes in and starts
Speaker 1: taking oil and in money and fucking shut up because
Speaker 1: they felt like it and it was Tuesday. There's a
Speaker 1: reaction to something, and that's exactly what's happening in our lives.
Speaker 1: We're watching people who have been in the house for months,
Speaker 1: who've lost their jobs, who have no fucking money. Watch
Speaker 1: black women, men and women die in front of their
Speaker 1: face on TV, on their Twitter, in their phones in
Speaker 1: their hands, and seeing that and feeling angry and wanting
Speaker 1: to function up and fucking shut up. Is that a
Speaker 1: lot of things get done. You may have heard me
Speaker 1: talk about when I was in Paris with scissors and
Speaker 1: how many riots and protests we saw and things on fire,
Speaker 1: setting people on fire, which is insane. But the French
Speaker 1: get what they want because their government scared of them.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of our issue has been
Speaker 1: that we don't press the government that we fund enough.
Speaker 1: We're taxpaying citizens and got the nerve to beg men
Speaker 1: in uniform that we pay to not shoot us. That's insane,
Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy. And honestly, this is exactly why I
Speaker 1: wanted people to donate on behalf of bail bonds for protesting.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's right that the mom and
Speaker 1: pop shot gut it. Don't. Don't get me wrong. But
Speaker 1: I understand that soldiers die where I understand that things happen,
Speaker 1: that people get affected and it's sad, but it's just
Speaker 1: anger and exhaustion, and we have to make sure that
Speaker 1: we're educating people about that when we are having these conversations,
Speaker 1: these tough conversations. Don't let anybody run over you about
Speaker 1: something you're passionate about, no matter who you are. If
Speaker 1: you are black, if you are Latina, if you are right,
Speaker 1: if you're Asian, if you're brown, if you're Indian, whoever,
Speaker 1: and you are passionate about the things we are passionate about,
Speaker 1: make sure you can run those fucking circles around them
Speaker 1: when this gets going, make sure you can do it.
Speaker 1: Just do your best to keep yourself in the know.
Speaker 1: That is the best thing we can do. We have
Speaker 1: it right in our hands, right where you're listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, Whether YouTube, whether it be fucking your phone, whatever,
Speaker 1: please make sure I implore you to do your best
Speaker 1: to have high level conversations about things that are affecting
Speaker 1: us for the rest of our lives. Congratulations to you
Speaker 1: for listening to a podcast like this where other people
Speaker 1: may not like the opinions, but we all know we're
Speaker 1: going to be on the right inside of history thirty
Speaker 1: years from now. We talked to our kids and they
Speaker 1: look at pictures and asked us what the funk was
Speaker 1: going on that week, and we knew we were a
Speaker 1: part of that. I want to personally thank you guys
Speaker 1: that helped me fundraise between some of our listeners and
Speaker 1: just Instagram following that I have on Twitter, and we
Speaker 1: got to twelve thousand, six hundred something dollars to go
Speaker 1: to protesting bonds And it was amazing to see people
Speaker 1: band together like that. And I I have a lot
Speaker 1: of faith in humanity in this moment. And maybe I'm
Speaker 1: naive to say that, but I really know that the
Speaker 1: world is starting to see how we've all been feeling.
Speaker 1: Next week, I'm looking forward to making you guys laugh again.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to figuring out who's making this outline
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Mandy and I present a guests
Speaker 1: and laughing. I'm really excited for that because I want
Speaker 1: some normal back to But the normal that I want
Speaker 1: back is what I used to have and more I
Speaker 1: want things to change. I know you do too. I
Speaker 1: love you for listening, I love you for sticking through
Speaker 1: this end, and I just briefly again, much like I
Speaker 1: did on that Black Lives Little thing um last Sunday,
Speaker 1: I just want to take thirty seconds to where we
Speaker 1: breathe through this, we start a great day, we let
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy weight off our shoulders, and we
Speaker 1: come back to center. So I'm gonna take thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: If you're driving, I'm sorry, or if you're out in public,
Speaker 1: my bad. But if you can close your eyes and
Speaker 1: let's take a deep breath through our nose, out through
Speaker 1: your mouth, In through your nose, out through your mouth.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing a quick thirty seconds aditation. I want
Speaker 1: you to feel it right in the front of you
Speaker 1: before ahead, set a good intention for the day. Since
Speaker 1: set something you're going to teach yourself today, something that
Speaker 1: will make you feel good in their nose, out there,
Speaker 1: your mouth. By no means in my yogi, psychic guru.
Speaker 1: But I know what to do and I need to
Speaker 1: chill the funk out. I love you, guys, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to see you next week. Piece