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<v Speaker 1>All Zone media.

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<v Speaker 2>First, no matter what happens, remember to breathe. It's always

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<v Speaker 2>good advice to breathe. But taking good advice is easier

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<v Speaker 2>said than done. Sometimes the world is so overwhelming that

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<v Speaker 2>any added weight, even the weight of oxygen in your lungs,

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it might be enough to drag you down.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those times. The last week has

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<v Speaker 2>brought about ten years worth of news, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>all processing the seemingly inevitable coronation of a dictator and

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<v Speaker 2>the sudden hope and possibility inspired by Joe Biden stepping

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<v Speaker 2>down from the nomination. Welcome to it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Robert Evans, and this is a podcast about things

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<v Speaker 2>falling apart and sometimes about how to put them back together.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time I sat down to talk with all

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<v Speaker 2>of you like this was in the immediate aftermath of

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump assassination attempt, just before the Republican National Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you not to panic. That's still good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I also told you that no matter how bad or

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<v Speaker 2>good things may look, literally anything can happen in US politics,

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<v Speaker 2>and by god, it has. I felt it was necessary

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver that message because I saw an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people declaring We're doomed. Fascism is inevitable, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think shit like that only helps the fascists. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it turned out I was right. A lot has happened

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<v Speaker 2>over the last two weeks, and the situation now is

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<v Speaker 2>very different than it was the day the former president

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<v Speaker 2>took that grazing blow from a sniper's bullet. As is

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<v Speaker 2>usually the case and instances like this, I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people reach out to me since that episode

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<v Speaker 2>saying versions of how did you know? And as good

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<v Speaker 2>as it might be for my career to lean into

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<v Speaker 2>that side of my reputation, the truth is that I

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<v Speaker 2>am white knuckling it through every twist and turn like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else. I spent the RNC wondering if I'd been

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<v Speaker 2>foolish telling people not to panic, And yes, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a lot better right now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what comes next. I just know that

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<v Speaker 2>we're done with the portion of this mess where we

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<v Speaker 2>spiral in a hopeless mier that was last week. This week,

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<v Speaker 2>the outlook is a lot better, and not because Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris is our savior or because Nancy Pelosi is a

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<v Speaker 2>three D chess master. But because men age and die.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a fact I tried to remind myself of

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<v Speaker 2>as I'd grown through that disastrous debate with the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the country. On one hand, I felt like we

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<v Speaker 2>were all about to watch one ailing, power hungry man

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<v Speaker 2>hand the keys to the kingdom over to a cadre

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<v Speaker 2>of bloodthirsty fascists. But on the other hand, there's always

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<v Speaker 2>something inherently optimistic in this simple reality. The people who

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<v Speaker 2>would be our rulers will all die someday, and so

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<v Speaker 2>long as men die, liberty will never perish. So long

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<v Speaker 2>as men die, we have hope. I stole that line

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<v Speaker 2>from Charlie Chaplin. He put it in the mouth of

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<v Speaker 2>his character from The Great Dictator, a movie he produced

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<v Speaker 2>at great personal cost in nineteen forty Riot. As Hitler

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nazis reached the apex of their power, a

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<v Speaker 2>rational analyst staring out at the playing field after the

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<v Speaker 2>fall of France could be forgiven for having seen the

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<v Speaker 2>outcome as certain Great Britain stood alone, Hitler's armies victorious

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<v Speaker 2>on every theater, and the future of democracy and human

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<v Speaker 2>liberty gasping for breath. One such rational analyst was Joseph Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>US Ambassador to Great Britain and patriarch of the Kennedy family.

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph was a man of wealth and power, whose sober

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<v Speaker 2>judgment and cunning had seen him short the entire US

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<v Speaker 2>stock market and the kind of fortune that let him

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<v Speaker 2>buy his way into the ranks of global royalty. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a man who had predicted the future once one big,

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<v Speaker 2>and he let that convince him that he had the

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<v Speaker 2>second sight. And so in November nineteen forty, less than

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<v Speaker 2>a month after the release of The Great Dictator, Kennedy

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<v Speaker 2>found himself in an interview with the Boston Globe, looking

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<v Speaker 2>out at the ruin of Europe and the bombs falling

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<v Speaker 2>on London. He told a reporter democracy is finished in England.

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<v Speaker 2>It may be here here, of course, being the United

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<v Speaker 2>States now. The resulting blowback to all of this saw

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy forced to resign his ambassadorship. The very next year,

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and for several brutal months

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like Joe had been right. Not only might

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<v Speaker 2>democracy be finished, but every system besides fascism might be

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<v Speaker 2>hurtling towards annihilation and bondage under the Swastika, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>how you count it. The Third Reich and fascism as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole, reached its greatest extent of territorial power in

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<v Speaker 2>either mid August or September nineteen forty one. By November

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen forty one, a year after Joe Kennedy's remarks

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<v Speaker 2>to the Globe, Operation Barbarossa had been wrenched to a

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<v Speaker 2>bloody halt, and the long battle to push the fascists

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<v Speaker 2>back and drown them in the waters of their birth

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<v Speaker 2>had begun. And so in the end it was Charlie Chaplin,

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<v Speaker 2>not Joe Kennedy, who had the proper measure of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Liberty survived because men died, many millions of them, from

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<v Speaker 2>Kiev to Canterbury. We live in very different times now.

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<v Speaker 2>The arm armies of fascism are not primarily conquering land

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<v Speaker 2>under arms. The primary terrain of our present conflict exists

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<v Speaker 2>within the hearts and souls of men and women. And

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<v Speaker 2>while populism is still a favorite mechanism of action among

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<v Speaker 2>the fascists, they have in this country at least given

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<v Speaker 2>up on victory by sheer weight of numbers. It's true

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<v Speaker 2>what they say war never changes. Weapons do, but the

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<v Speaker 2>core of all human conflict revolves around the capture and

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<v Speaker 2>denial of territory. If you can't occupy ground yourself, you

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<v Speaker 2>must at least deny it to the enemy. In infantry combat,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the primary use of a machine gun, not

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<v Speaker 2>to kill people, but to blanket an area in bullets

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<v Speaker 2>and stop the enemy from moving through it. In our

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<v Speaker 2>modern war of thoughts and feelings, the machine gun has

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<v Speaker 2>yielded to the fire hose of propaganda and disinformation. These

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<v Speaker 2>have always been parts of the fascist arsenal, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet has allowed an increase in the scale and speed

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<v Speaker 2>of their deployment that is very much comparable to the

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<v Speaker 2>replacement of bolt action rifles with automatic ones. The forces

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<v Speaker 2>of basic human decency have a natural advantage in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of human terrain that should be impossible for the fascists

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<v Speaker 2>to counter. No matter what the bastards say. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>want to be left alone with the people they love

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<v Speaker 2>to live their lives. The forces of hate, the people

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<v Speaker 2>who want to throw trans kids in their parents in

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<v Speaker 2>gas chambers and drown migrants in the Rio Grande, tap

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<v Speaker 2>out at a little over a third of the population max.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to return to World War II metaphors,

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<v Speaker 2>and why wouldn't you? The monsters are stuck in tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>landlocked Germany without any gas or steel. The only way

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<v Speaker 2>for them to access the resources in territory they need

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<v Speaker 2>to maneuver themselves into a victory is by cutting us

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<v Speaker 2>off from each other and keeping us too confused and

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<v Speaker 2>divided to surround the bastards and smother them all for good.

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<v Speaker 2>They do this by convincing you that you are isolated,

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<v Speaker 2>alone and surrounded by them. Our hopelessness is their force multiplier.

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<v Speaker 2>When leftists in the US look out at Ukrainians strike

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<v Speaker 2>for survival and write them off as Nazis, as deluded

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<v Speaker 2>tools of imperialism, When liberals and blue cities to cry

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<v Speaker 2>college students protesting on behalf of dying Palestinian children as

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<v Speaker 2>agents of hamas the lines of solidarity between a snap

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<v Speaker 2>rather than wrapping like a garret around the throats of

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<v Speaker 2>our opponents. This is why you've seen so much allegiance

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<v Speaker 2>and sympathy between the cruelest and most eluded segments of

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<v Speaker 2>the Western left. The people who laughed at Syrian civilians

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<v Speaker 2>sheltering from Brishah al Assad's bombs and called them the

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<v Speaker 2>CIA and the agents of Putin's Russia and Peter Teal's

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<v Speaker 2>neo monarchist right. The Teals, Bannons, Putins, Airdoins, Trumps and

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<v Speaker 2>Modis of the world know how lonely they are. The

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<v Speaker 2>only way they can win is to convince you that

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<v Speaker 2>you're alone. Then they have you at a disadvantage. Then

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<v Speaker 2>they can kill us one by one. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no smooth way to transition to an ad and a

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<v Speaker 2>piece like this, but here it is. We're back now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a young man, but I do sometimes tend

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<v Speaker 2>to think of humanity as a single, vast, gestalt organism

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<v Speaker 2>groping for survival and comfort in a world that mostly

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<v Speaker 2>exists beyond what we can see. Majority of people are

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<v Speaker 2>happy existing as part of that vast whole. We take

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<v Speaker 2>comfort and safety in our communion with the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the species. But there are a few diseased minds out

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<v Speaker 2>there that don't believe in the rest of us. These

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<v Speaker 2>sollipsists see themselves as the only minds, and the perpetuation

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<v Speaker 2>of their own power and will as the only real good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why men like Peter Teel seek physical immortality, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's why men like Vladimir Putin or Hitler seek the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of immortality that comes from welding the edifice of

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<v Speaker 2>a nation state to themselves. Hitler is Germany, and Germany

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<v Speaker 2>will last forever. Elon Musk sees his children as an

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<v Speaker 2>extension of himself, and his fantasies of space colonization are

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<v Speaker 2>really just a fantasy that he will remain central to

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<v Speaker 2>humanity's future down through eternity. Musk has repeatedly identified himself

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<v Speaker 2>as a pro natalist, and he believes his responsibility is

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<v Speaker 2>to have as many children as possible to secure a

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<v Speaker 2>pro human future. The term pro human might confuse you,

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<v Speaker 2>given the lack of concern he has for the children

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<v Speaker 2>being bombed in Gaza or who will surely die in

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<v Speaker 2>the mass deportation camps through a publican party is currently

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<v Speaker 2>salivating to open. But the only real human Elon ses

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<v Speaker 2>is himself, which is why he equates the survival of

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<v Speaker 2>the species with his own ability to breed. As I type,

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<v Speaker 2>this video has begun circulating around the Internet from an

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<v Speaker 2>interview Musk conducted with Jordan Peterson for The Daily Wire.

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<v Speaker 2>In it, Musk explains why he has now fully embraced

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<v Speaker 2>politics endorsing Donald Trump and declaring himself at war with wokeism,

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<v Speaker 2>which he describes as an existential threat to the species.

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<v Speaker 2>He claims that what cinched this for him was his

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<v Speaker 2>daughter deciding to transition.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened to one of my my older boys where

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<v Speaker 3>I was, I was essentially tricked into signing documents for

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<v Speaker 3>one of my older boys. There was a lot of confusion,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I was told, oh, you know, might

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<v Speaker 3>commit suicide if it's incredibly evil. And I agree with

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<v Speaker 3>you that people that have been promoting this should go

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<v Speaker 3>to prison. So I was, I was stricked into doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers

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<v Speaker 3>are actually just sterilization drugs. So I lost my son essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, they.

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<v Speaker 3>They're callot dead naming for a reason, all right. So

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<v Speaker 3>the reason it's called dead naming is because so my

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<v Speaker 3>son is dead, killed by the Wok mind virus.

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<v Speaker 2>Musk's child is not, in fact dead, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>expressed an identity utterly separate from Elon, an identity he

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<v Speaker 2>cannot understand because Musk can only see his children as

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<v Speaker 2>an extension of himself and his ego. This is in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>worse than death. It is a threat to Musk's own life. This, incidentally,

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<v Speaker 2>is why Musk and his fellow travelers see transgender kids

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<v Speaker 2>as such a threat. Accepting a trans child, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't fully understand how and why they feel the

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<v Speaker 2>way they do, is one of the most radical acts

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<v Speaker 2>of love imaginable. To do this means that you've accepted

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<v Speaker 2>on a fundamental level that your children are autonomous beings,

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<v Speaker 2>not an extension of you, but something new, wonderful, and unique.

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<v Speaker 2>The essence of parental love is to give your children

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<v Speaker 2>to the world. This means accepting that you are finite

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<v Speaker 2>that the world goes on without you. If you see

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<v Speaker 2>all humanity as an extension of your own ego, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>could be more frightening. The people who feel this way,

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<v Speaker 2>people like Elon, are mutations, a glitch in the human

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<v Speaker 2>system that starts as a glitch within the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>an individual. It comes as a byproduct of success and

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<v Speaker 2>the very visible, spectacular ways that feed narcissism. When I

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<v Speaker 2>think about stuff like this, I refer often back to

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<v Speaker 2>a great article by the anthropologist Richard Lee, Eating Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>in the Kalahari. Lee spent years living among the Ikung Bushmen,

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<v Speaker 2>a Bantu speaking hunter gatherer group who were seen by

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<v Speaker 2>anthropologists as some of the people still living in a

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<v Speaker 2>manner most similar to our ancient ancestors. One Christmas, as

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<v Speaker 2>a show of gratitude to his hosts, Lee purchased a

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<v Speaker 2>massive ox for the holiday feast. He was excited to

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<v Speaker 2>show this great gift off to his new friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was proud of himself for having gotten it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was utterly shocked when they responded to his pride

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<v Speaker 2>with mockery of him and his ox, insulting it as scrawny, tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>hardly fit to eat now. This shockedly because the ox

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<v Speaker 2>he had purchased was, of course quite large, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was eventually explained to him that his friends were reacting

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<v Speaker 2>with mockery not to his gift, but to the evident

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<v Speaker 2>pride he had shown in it. Bringing in a great

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<v Speaker 2>beast way of meat, either as a hunter or from

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<v Speaker 2>buying it as Burton did, is the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>that can go to a young man's head. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are the one with the pocket book or the one

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<v Speaker 2>who fires the arrow, you can forget that the meat

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<v Speaker 2>before you, the meat that you've brought into the community

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<v Speaker 2>is not the product purely of your own genius, but

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<v Speaker 2>is a product of all of the time and resources

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<v Speaker 2>invested in you by the community. The shaming of the meat,

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<v Speaker 2>as this tactic was called, is a time honored way

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<v Speaker 2>of correcting the glitch in young men of the Ukun

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<v Speaker 2>before it can turn terminal. As one elder in the

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<v Speaker 2>tribe eventually explained to Lee, when a young man kills

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<v Speaker 2>much meat, he comes to think of himself as a

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<v Speaker 2>chief or a big man, and he thinks of the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of us as his servants or inferiors. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>accept this. We refuse one who boasts, for some day

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<v Speaker 2>his pride will make him kill somebody. So we always

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<v Speaker 2>speak of his meat as worthless. This way we cool

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<v Speaker 2>his heart and make him gentle. And speaking of cooling

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<v Speaker 2>your heart, why don't you cool your heart with some ads.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we'll come back to conclude this in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, we're back. It has been theorized that the

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<v Speaker 2>shaming of the meat is a social construct that may

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<v Speaker 2>help to explain one of the evolutionary values of satire,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps even why humanity keeps producing comedians. They act as

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<v Speaker 2>a part of our species immune system when this glitch

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<v Speaker 2>in the hearts of young men isn't punctured. When it's

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to take off and dominate them, then it changes

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<v Speaker 2>them on a fundamental level, and the being that it

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<v Speaker 2>leaves in its wake seems to understand instinctively that laughter

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<v Speaker 2>is a danger to it. This ultimately explains why Musk

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<v Speaker 2>purchase Twitter and why Barack Obama's mockery of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>during that White House Correspondence Center set us all down

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<v Speaker 2>the dark path that we currently are walking. So clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>humor alone doesn't always save us from these kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>people either. What will I have several times and my

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<v Speaker 2>various shows identified myself as an anarchist, and I tend

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<v Speaker 2>to do that even though I don't feel fully comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with the title, because brevity matters. I'm speaking to a

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<v Speaker 2>mass audience, and using that word gets as close enough

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of a podcast. But I'm not an

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<v Speaker 2>anarchist in the sense that I have some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>clear vision for how to build a utopia. Obviously, I

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<v Speaker 2>do think anarchism has some answers for how human beings

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<v Speaker 2>might build a better world. That's why I went through

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<v Speaker 2>a Java, It's why we cover a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that we cover on these series. But I am

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<v Speaker 2>primarily an anarchist because I understand that hierarchy kills, because

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that hierarchy separates us from each other and

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<v Speaker 2>acts as a petri dish within which this glitch can propagate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an anarchist because I love the people around me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I understand that I am human, and because I

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<v Speaker 2>see that my role in the human immune system is

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<v Speaker 2>to remind other people of that fact and to point

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<v Speaker 2>a finger at the people who have forgotten that they're human.

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<v Speaker 2>I promised in the title of this little piece that

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<v Speaker 2>I would tell you how we can win, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can do that in a few words. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>remember that we are humans. Kamala Harris is an authoritarian.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that she wants to be president at all

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<v Speaker 2>should make you leery of her. But she's not a

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<v Speaker 2>Trump or a Musk. She has not separated herself entirely

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<v Speaker 2>from humanity, if you'll forgive the reference. She understands that

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<v Speaker 2>she exists in the context of all that came before her.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden has been hungry for power all his life.

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<v Speaker 2>The glitch is in him. It has consumed most of him,

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<v Speaker 2>but as we all learned recently, not all of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He too understands that he is a part of humanity,

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<v Speaker 2>indivisible from it. Now you can and should still view

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<v Speaker 2>the man with disgust, even hatred. He ought to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hague. But he also stepped down and gave

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<v Speaker 2>up the thing that a week ago I'd have said

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<v Speaker 2>probably mattered most to him in the world. This was

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<v Speaker 2>not a purely selfless gesture. I'm sure he acted in

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<v Speaker 2>large part to try and salvage his own legacy, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is also not a thing Donald Trump could ever do.

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<v Speaker 2>You certainly wouldn't see a man like Vladimir Putin make

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<v Speaker 2>a similar choice. And we've all seen the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>slaughter bb Netan Yahoo is willing to back to hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to power. None of this redeems Biden or makes

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<v Speaker 2>him a good person or any less complicit in genocide

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<v Speaker 2>than he was a week ago. I think it does

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<v Speaker 2>put us in a better position when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for a ceasefire in Gaza. Everyone in US politics

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<v Speaker 2>knows that Biden's political end started with the surge of

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<v Speaker 2>uncommitted voters in Michigan. The loss of a second term

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<v Speaker 2>is not a sufficient punishment for Biden's actions, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is a punishment that has the ability to reshape the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of risks US presidents will and won't take for

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<v Speaker 2>Israel from now on. It has also helped me make

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<v Speaker 2>sense of something that happened in twenty twenty. You all

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<v Speaker 2>remember the moment during the one presidential debate that year

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump attacked Biden over the numerous scandals of his son, Hunter,

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<v Speaker 2>a troubled drug addict who tried and largely failed to

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<v Speaker 2>use his father's name to secure wealth and standing for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter's troubles have been tremendously embarrassing to his father, but

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<v Speaker 2>up in front of the country and world, Biden refused

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<v Speaker 2>to throw his son under the bus. He embraced him

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<v Speaker 2>and expressed the kind of unconditional love that is utterly

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<v Speaker 2>alien to men like Trump and Musk. Biden, for all

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<v Speaker 2>the evil that he has done in the raw selfishness

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<v Speaker 2>that allowed him to reach the presidency in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>is a man who loves his son. Most importantly, he

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<v Speaker 2>loves Hunter as Hunter and not purely as an extension

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<v Speaker 2>of Joe Biden. There's an excellent series of articles out

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<v Speaker 2>in the Atlantic right now by Tim Alberta, who might

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<v Speaker 2>be the finest political journalist writing today. Tim had the

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<v Speaker 2>good instincts to look behind the scenes at the team

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<v Speaker 2>Trump picked to orchestrate his twenty twenty four campaign, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's delivered deep reporting about why they've made some of

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<v Speaker 2>the baffling decisions they've made. Chief among bafflements was the

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<v Speaker 2>selection of J. D. Vance as Vice President. Vance barely

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<v Speaker 2>won his seat in Congress with the help of tens

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<v Speaker 2>of millions of teal dollars. He is a liar without

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<v Speaker 2>principal who has repeatedly expressed his desire to tear up

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution and usher in a new red caesar to

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<v Speaker 2>bring this nation to heal under men like him. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Vance's speech at the RNC live at a Heritage

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation party, surrounded by the rightest of the right. Not

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<v Speaker 2>one of them offered a single word of praise Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>JD is the sort of pick Trump's handlers were sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they could afford to make. Vance would bring the

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley billionaire set to the table, open up their

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<v Speaker 2>purse strings, convince them they were welcome in the new

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<v Speaker 2>ruling class. Sure he wouldn't bring any votes, but a

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<v Speaker 2>week ago, running against Sleepy Joe, the sick man of

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<v Speaker 2>US politics, Trump's team felt they had votes to spare well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the worm has turned. The Poles still point to

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<v Speaker 2>an election that is deeply in doubt. But Poles don't

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<v Speaker 2>say everything. The panic of their responses to Biden's stepping down,

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<v Speaker 2>the chaotic spree of hate points to a single truth.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know what to do now. The monsters are

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<v Speaker 2>off balance, stumbling, unable to find the ground. We can

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<v Speaker 2>see some evidence of this and the fact that Musk

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<v Speaker 2>just came out and canceled has promised forty five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar monthly donations to the Trump campaign. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>first chain of solidarity between our enemies to crumble, and

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<v Speaker 2>it won't be the last. Every time that happens, we

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<v Speaker 2>get more room to move and maneuver. The fascists may

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<v Speaker 2>well regain their footing and time to crush us. But

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<v Speaker 2>something else has happened in the last few days as well. People,

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<v Speaker 2>we humans, as a vast, blurry mob, have started to

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<v Speaker 2>remember how many of us there are and how much

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<v Speaker 2>potential the weight of our numbers gives us. We have

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<v Speaker 2>started to reconnect with each other, and that has also

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<v Speaker 2>opened up possibilities that did not exist before. Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>and the Democratic Party aren't going to bring an end

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<v Speaker 2>to global capitalism or drive a stake into the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of the oil and gas industry. There remains so much

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<v Speaker 2>else to do, so many other fights ahead of us.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we can crush the Republicans here, it will

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<v Speaker 2>be the fourth election cycle in a row where the

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<v Speaker 2>Right made a war on trans people, on the concept

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<v Speaker 2>of diversity, on any kind of open, secular society the

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<v Speaker 2>core of their electoral efforts, and it will be the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth time that they have done that and lost. If

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<v Speaker 2>we break their lines and send them fleeing into the hills,

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<v Speaker 2>we have an opportunity to shatter their power and use

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum of that victory to start building something better.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no cleaner, easy route to a better future, but

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<v Speaker 2>our chances are a hell of a lot better the

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<v Speaker 2>more of us that stay alive, and the more scattered

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<v Speaker 2>and frightened that we can make our enemies. Our strength

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<v Speaker 2>has always come from solidarity, from the understanding that we

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<v Speaker 2>need each other and that we are part of each other.

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<v Speaker 2>The Putins and Trumps and Musks and Teals of the

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<v Speaker 2>world are, of course a part of humanity as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are incapable of seeing or accepting that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so long as that is the case, we outnumber them.

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<v Speaker 2>So long as that is the case, we can win.

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