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Speaker 2: And Bill Feederer joins us right now. Who's part of

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Speaker 4: Hey, Charlie, agree to be with you?

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Speaker 2: So Bill tell us why do we celebrate Thanksgiving? What

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Speaker 2: is the story of Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: Little background, So the King of England was a globalist.

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Speaker 5: where did they get this idea that you could rule

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Speaker 5: And again it's based on this idea that you teach

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Speaker 5: What makes America great is in a sense, you get

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Speaker 5: Well, so these pilgrims are coming across and they land

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Speaker 2: the one or two big lessons from all that that

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Speaker 2: apply to today.

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Speaker 3: And you know.

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Speaker 2: That we can really kind of pry away from then

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Speaker 2: and internalized for what we're living through.

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Speaker 5: Well, personally the thought of Squanto being sold into slavery

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Speaker 5: and then rescuing the Pilgrims. You got the Bible story

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Speaker 5: of Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers, but

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Speaker 5: then he goes down to Egypt and becomes right hand

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Speaker 5: to the Pharaoh and he provides for the other children

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Speaker 5: of Israel to survive. So sometimes the pains that you

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Speaker 5: go through in your life, the Good Lord can use

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Speaker 5: those to later have you be able to minister to

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Speaker 5: somebody else that's going through struggles. One of the things

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Speaker 5: I point out in history is there's two threads, greed

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Speaker 5: and the Gospel. And you always have people motivated by

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Speaker 5: the Gospel, and they're the ones that want to be

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Speaker 5: friends with the Indians. And today, you know, they dig

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Speaker 5: wells and villages and start hospitals and medical clinics and schools.

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Speaker 4: Most of the schools and universities are started by churches.

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Speaker 5: But then you always have people motivated by greed, and

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Speaker 5: they're the ones that take land from the Indians, sell

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Speaker 5: people into slavery, and vote for candidates they think will

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Speaker 5: help their pocketbook even though they stand for immorality. Those

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Speaker 5: two threads go through each of our hearts every single day,

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Speaker 5: and we have to make choices. Are we going to

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Speaker 5: do what benefits us or what's better for our kids

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Speaker 5: in the next generation.

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Speaker 2: That is the question, isn't it. And so you know,

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Speaker 2: we're living through a period of time right now, Bill,

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Speaker 2: where a lot of people are looking for things to

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Speaker 2: be thankful for. Can you just talk more broadly about

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Speaker 2: the moral necessity to be deliberately thankful at least a

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Speaker 2: day or a season every single year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Founding era, they had this understanding of a

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Speaker 5: relationship with a personal God, and so through the history,

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Speaker 5: when things were bad, they would have days of prayer.

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Speaker 5: When things were real bad, they would have days of

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Speaker 5: fasting and prayer, and then when things turned around, they

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Speaker 5: would have days of thanksgiving. One time there was actually

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Speaker 5: a famine and they had a day of fasting and

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Speaker 5: a book comes in the harbor with supplies. They canceled

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Speaker 5: the day of fasting and they have a day of thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: And then you go through the Continental Congress. They had

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Speaker 5: a day of prayer and fasting two months before they

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Speaker 5: did the Declaration of Independence. And then you have after

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Speaker 5: the victory at Saratoga, they have a day of thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: They captured six thousand of the British. I mean this,

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Speaker 5: British have the most powerful military in the world, and

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Speaker 5: we capture six thousand of their soldiers. So we have

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Speaker 5: a national day of thanksgiving. And then George Washington has

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Speaker 5: a day of thanksgiving when we finally do the constitution

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Speaker 5: of the Bill of Rights, so he's thanking God for

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Speaker 5: our form of government. You come up to, oh, the

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Speaker 5: War of eighteen twelve, James Madison has a day of fasting,

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Speaker 5: and then after the war as a day of thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: But Lincoln's the one who made the day of Thanksgiving

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Speaker 5: an annual event, and then every president from Lincoln up

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Speaker 5: to the present has had a national day of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: But it's you know, it's important for us to be grateful.

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Speaker 5: You know when you are thankful that it is something

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Speaker 5: that the Good Lord will bless you even more if

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Speaker 5: you're thankful for what He's given you. I tell people

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Speaker 5: you know, in a sense, so sort of simplifying, God

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Speaker 5: has plan A and plan B. Plan A is he

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Speaker 5: blesses us so much and we turn to him out

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Speaker 5: of gratefulness. If that doesn't work, there is plan B.

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Speaker 3: It said.

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Speaker 5: He withholds his blessings right and he hides his face,

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Speaker 5: is what it says. And he lets us experience the

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Speaker 5: consequences of our selfish decisions, and when it gets bad,

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Speaker 5: we cry out to him out of desperation, and then

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Speaker 5: he delivers us. His goal is to have us turn

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Speaker 5: to him, and it's a whole lot easier. He blesses

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Speaker 5: us and we turn to him out of gratefulness.

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Speaker 3: Amen, It's beautifully said. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Also check

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Speaker 2: out Bill Fetter's Americanminute at americanminute dot com. I also

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Speaker 2: want to reinforce for those of you that might be

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Speaker 2: in the car right now on Thanksgiving or watching on

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Speaker 2: Real America's Voice or listening on podcasting, if you are

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Speaker 2: upset with your child's school, or if you want to

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Speaker 2: have an alternative. We at Turning Point USA are really

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Speaker 2: building something substantial and real. The church hybrid model, the homeschool,

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Speaker 2: the podschooling. All the resources we have for you guys

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Speaker 2: at Turningpoint Academy dot com. You guys can fill out

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Speaker 2: for an inquiry form there and contact us right there.

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Speaker 2: The team at Turning Point Academy is working very hard.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you. It is Thanksgiving, Bill

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Speaker 2: Fetterers here.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 2: Some people are very upset right now about the kind

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Speaker 2: of rise of tyranny in America.

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Speaker 3: And what we have seen is the continued.

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Speaker 2: Advance of totalitarianism and authoritarianism. Let's kind of reflect a

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Speaker 2: little bit on the last year twenty twenty two. Bill,

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Speaker 2: What did you see that is giving you hope? That

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Speaker 2: historically shows us that the citizen is rising and that

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Speaker 2: the authoritarianism is going to finally be put on its heels.

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Speaker 5: Well, it is a crisis that causes people to wake up.

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Speaker 5: I tell people in times of crises that people turn

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Speaker 5: to Christ. But it's also in times of crisis that

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Speaker 5: leaders are raised up. And what are the stories in

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Speaker 5: the Bible that we love the most.

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Speaker 4: It's when it looks hopeless.

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Speaker 5: You got the Pharaoh charging in with his chariots, and

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Speaker 5: you got an eighty year old man Moses that stands up.

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Speaker 5: Or you have a huge Goliath and it looks hopeless,

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Speaker 5: and God raises up a teenager David.

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Speaker 4: There's Gideon.

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Speaker 5: There's one hundred thousand Midi Nights coming in and here,

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Speaker 5: you know, Gide with three hundred defeats him. It's almost

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Speaker 5: like the Good Lord likes to wait until things look

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Speaker 5: hopeless and then he raises up little nobodies with faith

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Speaker 5: and courage to turn things around. And this is just

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Speaker 5: our turn. But I do see that. For example, the

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Speaker 5: COVID causes parents to look over the shoulder their kids

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Speaker 5: and see what they're being taught, all this transgender type

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Speaker 5: of stuff, and they're like, wait a second. And now

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Speaker 5: parents are beginning to say, maybe I do need to

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Speaker 5: take more of an interest in what my kids are

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Speaker 5: being taught.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I use a little little illustration that you are a spirit,

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Speaker 5: mind and body. So your mind in a sense is

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Speaker 5: like a super fancy computer. It's more than that, but

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Speaker 5: it's at least that, and your body's like the computer case,

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Speaker 5: which makes it silly for people to argue over what

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Speaker 5: color the computer cases. Imagine if I were to say

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Speaker 5: blue computers are better than red computers, right, it doesn't

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Speaker 5: really matter what color the case is. What matters what

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Speaker 5: software is running on it. And so the battle is

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Speaker 5: who gets to load the software on the next generation's brains.

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Speaker 5: And is it you love your enemy to good to

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Speaker 5: them to bless you, or is it cancel them, get

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Speaker 5: them to lose their job. And the other side wants

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Speaker 5: to put their mailware and their viruses and their corrupted

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Speaker 5: files on these little kids' brains, right, And so the.

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Speaker 4: Battle is who gets to teach the next generation? That's

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Speaker 4: the prize.

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Speaker 5: And I think that parents are finally waken up and

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Speaker 5: realizing that we need to be involved.

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Speaker 2: Amen, Bill, tell us about you know, historically you write

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Speaker 2: a lot about this, about how sometimes your back is

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Speaker 2: up against the wall and you know, there's the odds

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Speaker 2: scene against you, but we as Americans never give up.

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Speaker 3: Talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, here when the revolution was taking place, we

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Speaker 5: were breaking away from a globalist king, the King of England,

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Speaker 5: code control thirteen million square miles, have a billion people.

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Speaker 4: The sun never set on the British Empire.

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Speaker 5: You know, in Australia, New Zealand, on calling British, Guyana, Canada,

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Speaker 5: of Barbados, Bermuna, Jamaica in America.

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Speaker 4: Yet here we are with a.

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Speaker 5: Ragtag group of people that decide we're going to stand

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Speaker 5: up to this globalist We're not going to cave. And

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Speaker 5: the Good Lord brings in France on our side, and

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Speaker 5: the Spanish help us behind the scenes, and then the Dutch,

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Speaker 5: and so it ends up with us standing encouraged that

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Speaker 5: the British Empire is forced to let us go and

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Speaker 5: we're able to have a country.

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Speaker 4: Where the citizen. The word citizen is Greek, it means

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Speaker 4: co king.

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Speaker 5: So you get to be a king with a little

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Speaker 5: k over your life, and all of us together are

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Speaker 5: king with the little k of the country. And you

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Speaker 5: have a voluntary opportunity to surrender your life to Jesus,

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Speaker 5: the king of kings.

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Speaker 4: But it's voluntary.

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Speaker 5: We're not talking dominionism, we're theocracy, or we're shoving someuth

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Speaker 5: down to your throat. Now, our founders were dedicated to

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Speaker 5: you having the freedom of conscience. And it goes back

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Speaker 5: to the concept that God is love and he wants

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Speaker 5: you to love him. But for love to be loved,

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Speaker 5: it must be voluntary. The moment it's forced and evaporates.

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Speaker 5: Jesus never forced anybody to follow him. We can't force

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Speaker 5: anybody to follow him. But we want to have an

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Speaker 5: atmosphere where there's the freedom for people to choose, and

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Speaker 5: we don't want kids being indoctrinated with something that's anti faith.

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Speaker 5: But we're a country, so you have us breaking away.

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Speaker 5: You look at the War of eighteen twelve. The British

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Speaker 5: had a lot invested a lot of money in the

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Speaker 5: Bank of the United States, and they were beginning to

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Speaker 5: control our politics, sort of God's globalist bankers. And you

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Speaker 5: had James Madison canceled the charter of the Bank of

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Speaker 5: the United States because it had a good percentage of

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Speaker 5: it was European and English investments. And then they decided,

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Speaker 5: well they weren't happy. They declared war on us, and

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Speaker 5: so the War of eighteen twelve and then kind of

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Speaker 5: look at the Civil War anyway, a lot more there,

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Speaker 5: but we are.

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Speaker 2: Never surrender is the lesson on this Thanksgiving you thought

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Speaker 2: to be thankful for Bill Feeder. You're amazing, God bless

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Speaker 2: you man.

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Speaker 3: Everyone.

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Speaker 2: Check out Turning Point Academy dot com or get your

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Speaker 2: tickets to America Fest Amfest dot com I have a

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Speaker 2: wonderful Thanksgiving bill.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again. It is Thanksgiving week and we are here.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the official uniform of thought crime this

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Speaker 2: week is the Thanksgiving uniform.

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Speaker 9: I decided to go as Charlie kirk for this Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: I didn't. I didn't fully shave. I might later and

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Speaker 7: then and then like your hair thing where you do

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Speaker 7: like the down up.

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Speaker 2: Hey, No, it's it's the natural colle It's like a

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Speaker 2: nice It's like a Nike sweet it is.

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Speaker 3: It's I have a trademarked Is that why you only

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Speaker 3: wear Nikes?

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Speaker 2: I actually don't only wear Nikes, but I should.

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Speaker 7: So.

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Speaker 3: We also have Blake and Tyler as well. What are

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Speaker 3: they wearing. Let's see, Blake is probably wearing a T shirt.

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Speaker 8: I'm wearing my turkey hat.

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Speaker 10: I believe this is a Kirkland shirt. I don't actually

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Speaker 10: have a Costco membership, but I'll be honest. My mother

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Speaker 10: buys a lot of shirts for me.

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Speaker 11: I'm wearing my turkey hat, my native American shawl.

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Speaker 7: I hear all you guys in there, my here.

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Speaker 11: Zona State T shirt because we're going to the Big

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Speaker 11: Tall Championship.

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Speaker 8: Unless things go all right on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe hold on, Tyler, you know the story of

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Speaker 2: Arizona football.

656
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: Whatever is predictable. No, Tyler knows this.

657
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Speaker 2: They will curse whatever inevitable path they have, they mess

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00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: it up. I'm it is an inevitability of Areasona State football.

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Speaker 11: I've got a front row seat Charlie on Saturday with

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Speaker 11: my two brothers right behind Kenny dellyham So.

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Speaker 8: And on a Tucson.

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00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 7: This is a very dumb question.

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Speaker 3: You're going but going down to twoson.

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Speaker 8: I'm going down to Tucson and front row seat.

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Speaker 7: I likeson.

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00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 10: So it's going to be a miserable Basically, this is

667
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 10: a dumb question. Having not gone to an ASU football game,

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 10: do they just like suffer and complete agony for their

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00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 10: first like three home games of the season, because you

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Speaker 10: know the evenings.

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Speaker 8: They do them in the evening.

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Speaker 11: It's actually still ninety five degrees. It's a nicety eight.

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Speaker 11: But here's the factoid for everybody that's listening. Arizona has

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Speaker 11: the longest rivalry game in the country, the Territorial Cup

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00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 11: between Arizona State and Arizona.

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00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 8: People don't believe it.

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: Look it up, no way, Oregon. Oregon State has to

678
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: be older I'm look it up.

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 11: Territorial Cup is the longest recognized n C double A

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Speaker 11: football livalry.

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Now Yale Prince eighteen seventy three.

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00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 8: It's the oldest.

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00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Is it like the oldest house is older than eighteen

684
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: seventy three. No, Princeton is pretty I mean Yale Princeton

685
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: was eighteen seventy three.

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00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 7: No, but the rivalry game, I'm surprised continue.

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: That Yale Princeton is a rivalry game.

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 7: They hate each other.

689
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: You have to look up the terr Montana Montana State

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety seven.

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 7: That's pretty old.

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00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Illinois State, Eastern Illinois nineteen.

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00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 7: Arizona wasn't even a state back then.

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 9: It would it couldn't be in Arizona State because there

695
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 9: wasn't a state.

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00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 7: I'm looking.

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00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 10: I'm looking online and that this is the duel in

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 10: the Desert is just eighteen ninety nine. And there's many

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Speaker 10: rivalries that are older than eighteen ninety nine.

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00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 8: Look the territory.

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Speaker 10: Looks Missionari Notre Dame eighteen eighty seven. Duke North Carolina

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Speaker 10: eighteen the oldest one that Tyler knows about it.

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00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 8: No, Actually, look at Google.

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Speaker 11: Territorial Cup Army Navy game eighteen ninety.

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Speaker 10: I feel like the Army Navy game is pretty old,

706
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 10: like they're and they're still going.

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00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 11: Territorial Cup the nation's oldest rivalry trophy, oldest trophy.

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00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: That's so, you can't really.

709
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 8: Have a cup without a trophy.

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 7: You can just spiritually have one.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 8: So and that's and that was territorial. That's what it's called.

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Speaker 8: The Territorial Cup.

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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 7: Sounds like your territorial Arizona State.

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 8: It was the normal school and that was it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I'm not saying it's good football.

717
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 8: I'm just saying it's it's.

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Speaker 10: By the way, since it is a Thanksgiving Day episode,

719
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Speaker 10: I wanted to flag that we have all something very

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Speaker 10: important to be grateful for. Remember, Charlie, you remember Real

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Speaker 10: Raw News, America's only trustworthy news source. They have a

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Speaker 10: breaking report today just before Thanksgiving. Special forces have arrested

723
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Speaker 10: Kamala Harris. She has come back find the vacation in Hawaii,

724
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 10: but they they nabbed her. According to the story, there

725
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 10: were moles inside of her secret Service detail and they

726
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Speaker 10: couldn't get her in Hawaii. I guess Hawaii is like

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Speaker 10: the deep state safe zone where they control things. But

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Speaker 10: they got her back to d C, which is also

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Speaker 10: a deep stave safe zone, but not as safe, and

730
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Speaker 10: so they managed to take her into custody. She and

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Speaker 10: Doug Amhoff will be sent to Gitmo to stand trial

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Speaker 10: for treason. I'm glad Real raw News able to get

733
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Speaker 10: happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: We always worried that she might be out there.

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Speaker 2: Tyler's it's the oldest trophy. It's the oldest trophy that

736
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Speaker 2: is that is legit. So it is the oldest trophy.

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Speaker 2: Ther is pretty cup. It's pretty impressed.

738
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Speaker 7: This trophy. It sounds like it's a cup.

739
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 8: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: He's right.

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Speaker 9: The Territorial Cup was created one hundred and twenty five

742
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Speaker 9: years ago, eighteen ninety nine championship.

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Speaker 3: It's the oldest rivalry trophy in college football.

744
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 7: But what what was the school even called before?

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00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, they're not.

746
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Speaker 2: It was called the normal school, called the Normal Tempe.

747
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: It was literally called Tempy Normal, Tempy Normal, and Arizona.

748
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 7: Huh.

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00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 4: And then it was a teacher.

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Speaker 10: It's the Territorial Cup is so old that it literally

751
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 10: is like a cup. It looks like a it looks

752
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 10: like a They actually impressed, Howers.

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Speaker 3: I thought no one lived in Arizona. It's like nineteen thirty.

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00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 8: No, my ancestors were there.

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00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 9: And it was literally just two football seat except prior

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Speaker 9: to nineteen twelve.

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00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 7: It was just two football teams.

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Speaker 9: I justa and to go you had to replace someone

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Speaker 9: on the team.

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Speaker 10: Arizona's population in eighteen ninety was eighty eight thousand people.

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 8: When your family moved here, we chased twice as many more.

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Speaker 9: Sixty percent of them were related to to Tyler.

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Speaker 8: I'm a seventh generation Areason.

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Speaker 7: When did when did the old technic lawyer?

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Speaker 8: It was up here.

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Speaker 11: It wasn't Boyer, it was Lambs and uh and and

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Speaker 11: those people.

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Speaker 8: But they was this eighteen sixties, eighteen six.

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Speaker 10: In eighteen sixty the population of Arizona six and eighty

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Speaker 10: two people.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I'm s that is that is O

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Speaker 8: G second cousins with.

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Speaker 7: Sheriff flamp yep Man.

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Speaker 10: Now there's a six thousand, there's like probably more than

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Speaker 10: that within like a couple of blocks of here.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, for sure. All right.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of getting out into the wild, they say evolution

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Speaker 2: has gone soft and that men have traded their strength

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Speaker 2: for comfort. But if you're not about to let your

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Speaker 2: instincts go dull, so I'm fuel up with something raw

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Speaker 2: and real.

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Speaker 8: You hear that.

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Speaker 2: It's in the script, Blake, raw and real right there,

784
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Speaker 2: right there the script, right Jack, Am I making it up.

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Speaker 7: Something raw, real and prime.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we should do a spinoff called primal news.

787
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, Blake could be a millionaire running

788
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: primal news as a spinoff of real raw news because

789
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Speaker 2: he understands that language so well.

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Speaker 3: We should just call it. Is there a primal News?

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to see it, though, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there is no there's no problem news.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that would be great primal news.

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Speaker 8: Okay, this is gonna end wrong, not good.

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Speaker 2: Naked organs is the name. It's called naked organs. We're

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Speaker 2: talking pure bison liver, kidney, heart, and testicles, some of

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Speaker 2: which are very nutrient dense on the planet, nutrient dense

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Speaker 2: foods on the planet. Bison liver alone packs up more

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Speaker 2: than three times more vitamin A than muscle meat, along

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Speaker 2: with high levels of vitamin B, twelve, iron, and folate,

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Speaker 2: all essential for energy, immune health, and keeping you sharp.

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Speaker 2: And the best part, you get all these powerhouse nutrients

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Speaker 2: in a form that's easy to take. No raw organs

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Speaker 2: required had to be naked dot com. He's promo code

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Speaker 2: Charlie had and get fifteen percent off. Time to silence

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Speaker 2: the noise, reclaim your power and get back to being unstoppable. Okay, guys,

807
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: we have to talk about Thanksgiving. Is it okay to

808
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: eat steak on Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 7: I really worry it's the only thing you eat on Thanksgiving.

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00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 10: No, No, it's incorrect, incorrect. No, No, you can have

811
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Speaker 10: Tyler and I were discussing it. Not at all, not

812
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 10: at all, not at all. You can have You must

813
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 10: have turkey. It is required to have turkey. You may

814
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 10: have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey. But

815
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 10: like it should be, any meat you have should be

816
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 10: from like a central meat dispensing entity. You cannot have

817
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 10: individualized servings of meat. That is that is my position.

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Speaker 7: Not give it from a central meat dispensing No.

819
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 10: Like you don't make a giant You don't make like

820
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 10: a fifty pounds steak and then take like a piece

821
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 10: of it and like pass the giant super steak around.

822
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 10: Like that's what you do with ham or turkey, Like

823
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 10: you make the whole turkey or you make the.

824
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 7: Whole ham, and you like cut a little bit of it.

825
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 7: But you don't do that with steak. But that's what

826
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 7: I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: You can have a separate serving of a play to

828
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 9: steak for people similar to the ham.

829
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 7: No, it's just wrong, like.

830
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Speaker 11: Because ham is ham is like supplement to the turkey taste.

831
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Speaker 11: You have to have turkey and ham on your plate.

832
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 7: You don't need ham. No, you don't want to know.

833
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 7: You don't need ham.

834
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: You don't.

835
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: No, I'm a turkey purist, but some people think that

836
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: they can start to get really now, Christmas is a

837
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: completely different ballgame. There are no rules with Christmas. Ham

838
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 2: is usually center, but steak is accept the bam.

839
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no. But still, Christmas is a whole Thanksgiving.

840
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Speaker 3: It is un.

841
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: American not to have either turkey, some sort of dressing, cranberries.

842
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: But here's the thing about the cranberry thing.

843
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: If you want to be an ultra traditionalist, right, it

844
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: must be straight out of the canes, taken vertically with no.

845
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Speaker 1: Adjustments, relentless and spirited. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

846
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: And now if you want to have this, you want

847
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: to have the no, no, no, no, no no.

848
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: No, it's and if you want to have cranberry with adjustments,

849
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: that could be supplementary. But however it must be out

850
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: of the can and you just take it vertically.

851
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: And it just jiggles.

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00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 7: Walk me through your stuffing.

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00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: The stuffing is very interesting. Okay, Now here's the big question.

854
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Does the stuffing go in the turkey or is it

855
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: prepared outside of the turkey?

856
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 9: Is that stuffing he dressed in cook it with the

857
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 9: turkey or some people will prepare it and then just

858
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 9: put it in for like the fire.

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00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: See, that's that's a you gotta go the full lantha.

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00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: So I dressing has to be obviously, corn bread, yes,

861
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Speaker 2: some sort of cleries and carrots, sausage, little crunch, mix

862
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: that all together. But you know what makes the stuffing

863
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: really kicker the gravy. Yes, and so you need the gravy.

864
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: You have the stuffing, you have the jiggling cranberry, You

865
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: got the turkey, and that's all that's accepted. And then

866
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Speaker 2: all maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes.

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Speaker 7: Castle whoa, what was the issue with green bey castrole?

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Speaker 2: I I just I just it's not it's not allowed.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's not.

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Speaker 4: You're getting too.

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00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 7: Cute green.

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: Total staple with the.

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00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: No no, no, I like what I like the long, uninterrupted,

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00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: unblemished green beans with butter with butter. Yeah, that's good, though. Castle,

875
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: I never said castle. The castle is.

876
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 7: You're saying castle is a staple. It's an absolute.

877
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a staple. And then let me

878
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: think what else? Okay, yes, then the sweet potatoes. Sure,

879
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: but none of this marshmallow stuff. You see, this is

880
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: new age and it's a mistake. We're all of a

881
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: sudden full trad and then it's it's a mixed Sure,

882
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: it's like nineteen fifties Thanksgiving, right, It's like that's why

883
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: it's like the jel You know, it's not saying no marshmallows. No, no,

884
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: no marshmallws. The marshmallow thing is is a disgrace.

885
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 9: Well, Charlie, hold on a second, though, because there is

886
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 9: one thing wait wait, wait wait, there is one thing,

887
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 9: one dish that we know for a fact was served

888
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 9: at the original Thanksgiving. Charlie, you know where I'm going

889
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 9: with thisox No, no, no, Charlie, not what not what

890
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 9: we served?

891
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 7: What was served to us?

892
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Got it?

893
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 7: Corn?

894
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh?

895
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: See? No?

896
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: No, corn was served at the original living that is

897
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: acceptable as cornbread. I will say, you have to bend

898
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: the need to the corn god, and cornbread has to

899
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: be either the trussing the stuff stuff.

900
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: Do you agree, Tyler?

901
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 9: Long time thought. I'm remember that Charlie is is.

902
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: Is like Blake radicalized me as in the corny anti

903
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: cornite I think. I think horn has no redemptive value

904
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: unless it is for Thanksgiving, because then it is a

905
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: sacrament to squanto.

906
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 8: No corn is good in the summertime.

907
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 7: We eat the corn on.

908
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 10: Thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry corn God

909
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 10: has not destroyed us.

910
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: Cork corn exactly, this is exactly.

911
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 8: I forgot his name.

912
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 7: I forget the corn God's name.

913
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: No, no, we're not talking about corn on the cop We're

914
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: talking about corn elements, corn bread for example.

915
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 9: Corn even even even Charlie Kirk anti corn.

916
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: This is what thanks is big, this is Let's be

917
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: very clear. Thanksgiving is not about what you want to do.

918
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: It is what your ancestors did.

919
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 9: Okay, and what doesn't matter you don't want to do,

920
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying.

921
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: It's not about I don't care about if you know

922
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: what cranberries you don't.

923
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: Like, turkey suck it up. It's Thanksgiving.

924
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: There is no we this modernity, like I'm gonna put like.

925
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 7: Tiny will not eat turkey.

926
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.

927
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 7: She'll make it.

928
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 11: She wants to figure it out. You want to it

929
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 11: so here in Arizona, I don't know what to tell you.

930
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 11: I completely agree with Charlie. I think the canned cranberry

931
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 11: is a must on the table.

932
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 8: However, you have to have it, you have to have

933
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 8: a second.

934
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 11: In Arizona we have jalapeno cranberries incredible.

935
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: If you haven't had it, I know you're regionalizing this

936
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: too much. Good, No, No, this is.

937
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 8: It adds a little spice. It's just a little bit.

938
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 10: It's like when I went to the Grand Canyon last

939
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 10: summer and I discovered that. I guess they just sell

940
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 10: like prickly pair everything at every Arizona Yeah.

941
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, something that's that's anywhere.

942
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 11: So I have a question for everybody though, And this

943
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 11: is getting deep into the weeds. So we talked about

944
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 11: stuffing or dressing. Moist stuffing or dry stuffing.

945
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: It's got to be dry, but the gravy makes it moist.

946
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: If you make it too moist, make it more moist

947
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: for the gravy.

948
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 3: You can't.

949
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: It has to be on the spectrum of tilt moist,

950
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: but not too much, because if it's too then it's

951
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: just it's too brittle and brittle. There's nothing worse than

952
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: brittle dressing.

953
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 7: So dressing, I'm noticing that you call it dressing.

954
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: It should be stuffing. However, I've been corrected many times.

955
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: I've always called stuffing even though it's not technically stuffing

956
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: unless it's within the turkey.

957
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 8: Yes, dressings outside, No, it's not.

958
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: No, I grew up calling it stuffing even though we

959
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: never put it in the turkey.

960
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 9: But it's the I mean, I get that, but the

961
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 9: type of food would be called still stuffing.

962
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 7: Dressing is like for salads.

963
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

964
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 8: No, dressing is outside.

965
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 7: I reject that completely. Stuffing is like a.

966
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 10: Type of food and its like it should be used

967
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 10: to stuff in it. But it is still stuffing even

968
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 10: if it's not doing this.

969
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 8: There's lots of dressing.

970
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 7: Us the name properly, but we but we still call

971
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 7: it that.

972
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: I'm used to be.

973
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm excited every Thanksgiving at this point. This is great.

974
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: So we're not so.

975
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 9: People know we're pre taping this. Yeah, ahead, we are

976
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 9: we are today? We are all we are thinks.

977
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 7: We blew off Thanksgiving.

978
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 8: We're supposed to be eating right now?

979
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

980
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now let's let's now go to the more

981
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: fundamental question.

982
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: Okay, dessert.

983
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: Okay, because that really is what Danita said.

984
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 7: Well for me, I mean if I have I have.

985
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: All right, no, no, you go you could No, this

986
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: is I have I have.

987
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 7: At times, and my mom knows this.

988
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 9: I have left the house, gone to the store and

989
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 9: purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and brought it home

990
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 9: and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available.

991
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: It is required. Oh, I completely agree.

992
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: It is like the first commandment of oh yeah Thanksgiving.

993
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 2: Oh yes, thou shall have pumpkin pie with whip cream,

994
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: with whip cream.

995
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a non negotiable right.

996
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: If it's not there, Like I I got up, I

997
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 9: got in my car, I was like, I'm just gonna go.

998
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 7: I'm now.

999
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: Ryan asks a really good question. Is Thanksgiving meal a

1000
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: lunch or a dinner? The answer is around three thirty

1001
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: to four pm. Yeah, that is the sweet spot, right,

1002
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: is the is going down in Chicago?

1003
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 7: You sit down right Thanksgiving? That is way too late.

1004
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 7: It is itself its own meal.

1005
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: No, no, that is.

1006
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 10: That's way too late. You do it, I would say neft.

1007
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 10: Family tradition is maybe one to one thirty PM.

1008
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 7: So early, super early.

1009
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: Then you can do a second football game.

1010
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 7: When do you go to sleeptom of the second game?

1011
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: Yes, you got the first.

1012
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: The first football game is the Lions. The Cowboys are

1013
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 2: always second. We have a tradition in our house halftime

1014
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: a Cowboys, we get seated because we're cheering that the Cowboys.

1015
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 7: Yes, well that's good, but no, it's.

1016
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 9: Way too We share the tradition as well.

1017
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: Like TV is off during the meal. No TV.

1018
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I I I greatly dislike the like TV

1019
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 7: sanctification of Thanksgiving. Like I don't know. I would watch.

1020
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 10: I would can like if the Packers are on, I

1021
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 10: would watch the Packers, but I do not consider it

1022
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 10: essential to watch.

1023
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 7: Now there's three games on things we usually have like.

1024
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Letting everyone out, socialism sucks, the Charlie Kirk Show.

1025
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: No, this is true. There has been a desecration. It

1026
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: used to be only two games and it was on Fox.

1027
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: It would be the Lions used to be bad and

1028
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: now they're good. And actually who do they play this week?

1029
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: Let me see, is actually pretty good lineup? And then

1030
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: it was the Cowboys. But now NBC got greedy because

1031
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: it was Fox at their game. CBS had their game,

1032
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: and then NBC got greedy and they snuck in their own.

1033
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 3: So is that this week?

1034
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: No?

1035
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let me see here. What do we got? We

1036
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: got a new week of football. Okay, there's three games.

1037
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: Oh, Blake, you're in luck.

1038
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I know. It's the evenings.

1039
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: Are visiting Lambeau.

1040
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be watching that. Oh and Chicago Place

1041
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving.

1042
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 7: Oh, they're gonna get annihilated.

1043
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: They're gonna die at Detroit. They're just gonna be at Detroit.

1044
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 7: That's yeah, that's good.

1045
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: By the way, you could tell who's having a better season.

1046
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Tickets start at Ford Field for one hundred and eighty

1047
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: one dollars. Tickets started at Jerry Stateman twenty eight bucks.

1048
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1049
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 9: My my son asked me the other day because he

1050
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 9: saw when we went to the the Eagles game and

1051
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 9: he was like all jealous that we went, and so

1052
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 9: he was like, oh, Daddy, give me some Eagles tickets,

1053
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 9: we'll go. And so we looked up the ones for

1054
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 9: Thanksgiving weekend, and I was like, I gotta sell a

1055
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 9: lot more pillows. Yeah, like Eagles tickets right now? Are

1056
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 9: it was five hundred dollars? Was like the highest nose.

1057
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 9: Three eleven is where they start out insane. Yeah, you're

1058
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 9: seeing what three eleven and that's in Baltimore. But Baltimore

1059
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 9: so closed. You're basically you're basically in the silly light, right, Yeah,

1060
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 9: you're pretty much in it.

1061
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 7: It's like ninety minutes, you know, the way I drive

1062
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 7: a tinety minutes.

1063
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So now now that we have developed so.

1064
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 9: By the way, by the way, I don't want to

1065
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 9: throw my mom under the bus because every single year,

1066
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 9: and I know she's going to watch this every single

1067
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 9: year post that there's like a selection of pumpkin pies.

1068
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: That is always available the way it must be. By

1069
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: the way, do you think that pecan pie can also

1070
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: make an appearance? Yeah, okay, can be there, but pumpkin

1071
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: is the only can pie. I actually prefer more than

1072
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: pumpkin pie. However, I must have a slice of pumpkin pie.

1073
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 9: Wait, wait, were you always like that though when you

1074
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 9: were little?

1075
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: My mom makes a killer pecan pie. Okay, Like destroys

1076
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: the world.

1077
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 7: Okay, what about so when I was younger, I was

1078
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 7: always pumpkin.

1079
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: But then well, now now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie,

1080
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: and that's where you just surrender.

1081
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 7: You're just done at that.

1082
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 9: So you throw you throw it because guys, you know,

1083
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 9: folks who don't know Charlie, you're usually pretty strict with

1084
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 9: your diet.

1085
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: You're very strict. It's like, I mean, you're usually alive. No, no, no,

1086
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: But Thanksgiving is different. Thanksgiving you go all in and

1087
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 2: it is. It is a holy day. By the way,

1088
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: I think Thanksgiving is one of America's greatest traditions. It

1089
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: is because it's a day just to give thanks I

1090
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 2: think it's uniquely awesome.

1091
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 9: Talk about that for a little bit, because there's you

1092
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 9: know a lot of people say, well, it's you know,

1093
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 9: it's just about the it's you know, it's the Indians,

1094
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 9: it's the Pilgrims.

1095
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: Everything is what you make of her.

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00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 7: There's no God involved. Why why do you well not?

1097
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: First of all, the Pilgrims were definitely giving thanks to God.

1098
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 4: Let's work.

1099
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: They we're not giving, you know, thanks to Brahmin, but

1100
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: they're giving thanks to the Almighty God. And but yeah, Secondly,

1101
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: I just think it's amazing, especially during the season where

1102
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: we have such abundance and we won the election, that

1103
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: there's a day where you just stop and you say

1104
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: thank you, which then of course acknowledges you're saying thank

1105
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: you to a higher power. And I don't know of

1106
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: another nation or another country that has a day of gratitude.

1107
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: I think I actually said this once and I guess

1108
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: there was like some random African country that has it.

1109
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: And that's fine. I got like in trouble for saying

1110
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: this last year. Yeah, okay, so fine. I guess Senegal

1111
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: has has a day like that. I'll look it up.

1112
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 9: However, great job Senegal or whatever. But but but following

1113
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 9: in some good footsteps, but a day of gratitude, I

1114
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 9: act I subscribe to the prager.

1115
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's doing better. He's he's fighting like crazy right now.

1116
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: I believe he's really struggling. That happiness is impossible if

1117
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: you were not grateful, and I believe that. I do

1118
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: not think you can have joy. I do not think

1119
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: you can have be content if you're not grateful. And

1120
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a beautiful thing. As a nation, we

1121
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: have a day to say thank you well.

1122
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 9: And shot on the nation always gave us the story

1123
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 9: of Thanksgiving real quick notice, real quick, you know. Shout

1124
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 9: out to the og who always told us the true

1125
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 9: story of Thanksgiving, Rush Limbaugh.

1126
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, he was an og on that he.

1127
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 7: Just did it every year.

1128
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 9: I've still got I've got a recording of it, uh somewhere,

1129
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 9: and we used to play it, and I got.

1130
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: To relist to try to so good me send it

1131
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: to me that I got to retry to recreate it.

1132
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 9: I did something on the show last year where I

1133
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 9: sort of like I didn't try to do it, like

1134
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 9: rushed at it, but I told the story and people

1135
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 9: just have to keep telling that story over and over.

1136
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 7: They tried socialism, it failed.

1137
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 9: Then they tried giving people ownership of their various plots

1138
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 9: of land, and then they had an over abundance of

1139
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 9: their harvest, and so they gave thanks to God. What

1140
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 9: a concept, what an incredible concept. But instead now it's

1141
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 9: all like, oh, the Pilgrims were dying and the Indians

1142
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 9: had to come and they saved the Pilgrims because they

1143
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 9: were stupid. Europeans didn't know anything, even though Squanto had

1144
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 9: actually lived in Europe. Even he had been in London

1145
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 9: more recently than the Pilgrims had, so he spoke the

1146
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 9: English so well.

1147
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 7: But of course you know facts.

1148
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 10: Sir Blake, you were saying something well, So first of all,

1149
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 10: I was saying, we should make fun of Canada for

1150
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 10: having their knockoff Thanksgiving that is just one month before ours.

1151
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 10: I think we should always see every opportunity to bully

1152
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 10: Canada because it's fun, but also even like the full

1153
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 10: story of Thanksgiving, because evil liberals always want to dunk

1154
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 10: on it, like it's even more beautiful than just the

1155
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 10: Pilgrims doing it when they settled here, like the very

1156
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 10: first like annual Thanksgiving national holiday, fourth Thursday in November,

1157
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 10: like clockwork that was started by Abraham Lincoln in eighteen

1158
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 10: sixty three, middle of the Civil War, the peak of

1159
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 10: the Civil War. I think that's probably the bloodiest year

1160
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 10: of the Civil War. And he says, yes, like in

1161
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 10: the middle of this, we're going to have a celebration

1162
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 10: of National Thanksgiving, and like that was what said it

1163
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: as a national holiday. George Washington declared a day of Thanksgiving.

1164
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 10: It's truly, you know, it's a great thing, because it

1165
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 10: is possibly the one great national tradition that was created

1166
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 10: in America that we have had for the entire history

1167
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 10: of America. That is just totally our own thing, and

1168
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 10: then us being America, we have exported it to the

1169
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 10: rest of the world in various ways. Someone was very

1170
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 10: shocked to learn now talking to a foreigner who is like,

1171
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 10: wasn't Black Friday this week?

1172
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 8: No?

1173
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 7: No, Black Friday is this week and it's kind of terrible.

1174
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 9: Now, yeah, I used to be a Black Friday person,

1175
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 9: but now it's I'm done.

1176
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 7: It's it's awful. It's just so awful.

1177
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 9: And it's not even Black Friday anymore. Because Black Friday.

1178
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 9: There's like, well, Charlie, given everything that you just said

1179
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 9: about the importance of Thanksgiving, what do you think about

1180
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 9: the people who leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go and

1181
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 9: start shopping.

1182
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: First of all, First of all, I totally when I

1183
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: grew up, it was actually Black Friday. Yeah, now it's

1184
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: like Black Thursday evening.

1185
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 9: Right, and it's not like you start lining up like

1186
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 9: the sales actually begin.

1187
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 2: It's actually interesting for younger listeners that don't know after

1188
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: so many people got trampled in the Walmart raids because

1189
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: people would line up, they keep the stores open, right,

1190
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: they don't close them and reopen them, because it used.

1191
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 7: To be the Walmart would close and then.

1192
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: And then all the all the deals in the sales

1193
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: would be set, and then people would get trampled so much.

1194
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 2: I think someone almost died and they got hospitalized and

1195
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: there were tons of lot This.

1196
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 7: Is the plot.

1197
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: This is the plot of people die. Is that right?

1198
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1199
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, people died.

1200
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: That's terribly right that I didn't know they died.

1201
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 7: There's that thanks Thanksgiving horror movie.

1202
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 9: This is actually the plot where people get killed and

1203
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 9: then like someone's getting revenge on the people who started

1204
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 9: the stampede.

1205
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: So I had no problem with, like, you have a

1206
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: really really good Thanksgiving and then you want to get

1207
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 2: good deals on stuff, and I think that was fine.

1208
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: It was like a good kickoff to the Christmas season.

1209
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: But and it used to be when I grew up,

1210
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: there was a grittiness to Black Friday. There was like

1211
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: a took it took real spirit. So you have to understand,

1212
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: Like I grew up in Chicago, it would always be

1213
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: like sub twenty degrees and if you wanted to get

1214
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: a Black Friday deal, you had to earn it. So

1215
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: you had to like leave with your family at like

1216
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: ten pm after all that turkey's full, and you like

1217
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: stood in line at Target from the open their doors

1218
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: at twelve oh one, right, and you would like shop

1219
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: all night and you would like get seven to eleven

1220
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: and get home by like five am, and you felt

1221
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: like I earned this deal and it was like it

1222
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: was like a sense of accomplishment.

1223
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 7: And you know end you had to have. There was

1224
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 7: like a limit to what you could.

1225
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: Get, of course, and it was very narrow.

1226
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 7: And it also on specifically we would.

1227
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: Go through catalogs and go through what was on sale. Yep,

1228
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: this was all before internet when I throw to Blake

1229
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: in a second, but.

1230
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 7: There was Internet ruined it. There was also there.

1231
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: Was a divide and conquer strategy of what stores are

1232
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: we going to hit?

1233
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: Are we gonna go to best Buy? Are we going

1234
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: to go to home Depot?

1235
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 2: Because like and you're shopping for other people, and there

1236
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: was like a real like conquest like chess game where

1237
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: it's like, oh wow, best Buy opens at eleven thirty

1238
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: and Walmart's at midnight.

1239
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 9: My my strategy would always be like I would find

1240
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 9: the one store that was like within a forty five

1241
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 9: minute drugs, but in like a like a non populated area,

1242
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 9: so much fun think about, or like a Staples, because

1243
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 9: nobody thinks that Staples would have stuff, but they do

1244
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 9: have computers and different, you know, high items. So like

1245
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 9: what are what's the thing that people aren't going to

1246
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 9: think about? And that's where I'm going to go.

1247
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: And now you just wait for cyber Monday and click

1248
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: a couple buttons and so all the adventure of it

1249
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: and you don't earn it anymore.

1250
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: It used to be you'd get.

1251
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: Home at three thirty in the morning, or like I

1252
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: got a.

1253
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: Good deal at a break of screen TV.

1254
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: It was.

1255
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: It was a teenage rite of passage in suburban Chicago.

1256
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 10: Blake your thoughts, Yeah, it was really I can still

1257
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 10: think of like individual things I went out of my

1258
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 10: way to get on Black Friday. I think I still

1259
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 10: have a PlayStation three that I got in twenty eleven.

1260
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 10: I think I can remember the exact deal. It was

1261
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 10: a PS slim two hundred and fifty dollars. It came

1262
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 10: with Little Big Planet and like some crummy Ratchet and

1263
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 10: Client game.

1264
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 8: Who cares?

1265
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 10: But like that was the best deal you could get

1266
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 10: for I think like two years after that point. But

1267
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 10: what ended up killing it was as you said, you know,

1268
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 10: you were you'd go for the time. And it used

1269
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 10: to be okay, it was on Black Friday, normal hours.

1270
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 10: Then they would open it at like six am in

1271
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 10: the morning and people would show it before. Then someone

1272
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 10: got ahead and made it, oh, let's open exactly at midnight.

1273
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 10: And then what finally killed it. I think the rise

1274
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 10: of the Internet was a but another thing that killed

1275
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 10: it was companies decided to get so green. They just said,

1276
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 10: we're doing Black Friday on Thanksgiving and they would just

1277
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 10: be open on Thanksgiving with those deals. And I think

1278
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 10: to America's credit, there was popular backlash to this, where

1279
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 10: they're saying, wait, you're forcing employees to skip Thanksgiving to

1280
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 10: come in and work on Thanksgiving. Though, I must hedge,

1281
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 10: I have to be personally grateful for the fact that

1282
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 10: some that stores are open on Thanksgiving, some of them

1283
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 10: because I visited a friend.

1284
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 7: This is about ten years ago.

1285
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 10: I went down to a friend in Tennessee for Thanksgiving

1286
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 10: and I took a megabus down. You know, poor we

1287
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: have to travel by bus. And I took a megabus

1288
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 10: down and I had a bag under it. And I

1289
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 10: had to get off in Chattanooga, which was the final

1290
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 10: destination was Atlanta, and they get out and they're.

1291
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 7: Like, Okay, where's your bag.

1292
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, it's under the thing, and they open

1293
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 10: it and they feel around and they're like, ah, yeah,

1294
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 10: we can't find it. We have a schedule to do,

1295
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 10: we have we have to go, and they just drove

1296
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 10: away with my bag with all of my changes of clothes,

1297
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 10: and I arrived late Wednesday night, so I had to

1298
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 10: go to a Walmart, which thanks to American capitalism, was

1299
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 10: open on Thanksgiving, and I had to buy an entire

1300
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 10: set of clothes for the whole weekend.

1301
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 11: So I had that perspective. I actually one of my

1302
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 11: first jobs was in high school.

1303
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 8: I took the.

1304
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 11: Seasonal job at Target and my first day, like first

1305
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 11: real day, was Thanksgiving or Black Friday. So I had

1306
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 11: to wake up after Thanksgiving when I was like a

1307
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 11: sophomore in high school at like literally four am. I

1308
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 11: had to be at Target at four point thirty help

1309
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 11: stock everything. This was still in the days that they

1310
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 11: still opened the doors, like Charlie was talking about before,

1311
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 11: they just like leave it open or open like super early,

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 11: and there would be like I get there at like

1313
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 11: four o'clock and there would be a line wrapped around

1314
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 11: the building if people waiting to get in, and we

1315
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 11: had to stock everything.

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 7: So here's a crazy story.

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01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 10: So you guys, there's a myth that Black Friday is

1318
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 10: the day after Thanksgiving. And you know what why that's

1319
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 10: a myth because the real truth is, the real truth

1320
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 10: is that Thanksgiving is the day before Black Friday.

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01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 7: I am not making it up.

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 10: The current date of Thanksgiving is because of like an

1323
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 10: evil plot by FDR.

1324
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 7: No, I'm not making this up.

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 10: So Lincoln's proclamation of Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving is on the

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 10: last Thursday of the month. Yes, it is on the

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 10: last Thursday. It is not on the last Thursday. It

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 10: is currently on the fourth Thursday of the month. That

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 10: is what the federal law is. So there are sometimes.

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 3: Five Fuyers of Friday.

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 10: So there are sometimes five Thursdays in November, and then

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 10: it would be on the fourth. It used to be

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 10: on the fifth, and then during the Great Depression, I

1334
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 10: believe in nineteen thirty nine, FDR got in his head

1335
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 10: if there is a longer like if there's a longer

1336
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 10: time between Thanksgiving and Christmas, there will be a longer

1337
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 10: Christmas shopping season, and so people will shop more and

1338
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 10: this will stimulate the economy. And so he intervened and

1339
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 10: he moved Thanksgiving to be a week earlier. And this

1340
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 10: became a partisan political issue, and so for a few

1341
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 10: years Republican states said, we're not doing this.

1342
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 7: And we're refusing to go along with it.

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 10: So you had a Democrat Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday,

1344
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 10: and you had a Republican Thanksgiving on the fifth one.

1345
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 10: And I think Texas because they are a Democrat state,

1346
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 10: but had a lot of like conservative Democrats who didn't

1347
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 10: like FDR they called the truth and they just had

1348
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 10: they said they're both holidays, and they had two Thanksgivings

1349
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 10: and then sadly Congress submitted and now it's just on

1350
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 10: the fourth Thursday, and we lost that culture war battle.

1351
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 9: What you were saying, though, what you were saying, though,

1352
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 9: there's a deeper and producer Foz talks about this all

1353
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 9: the time. His birthday was this week, by the way,

1354
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 9: shout out he calls it micro wins Microw's And how so, Charlie,

1355
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 9: you'd appreciate this is that like in your teenage years

1356
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 9: and working in retail, you know used to be part

1357
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 9: of this too, But in your teenage years, there used

1358
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 9: to be a variety of things that you would do

1359
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 9: as a rite of passage that have all been pretty

1360
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 9: much completely destroyed because of new technology.

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01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 7: One of those, of course, was waiting in line like this.

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01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 9: Another one of those, you know, having those retail jobs

1363
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 9: again with no phone to like just you know, constantly

1364
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 9: be there getting you through.

1365
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 7: It's monotony going through it.

1366
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 9: One of the other ones, I don't know how I

1367
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 9: got into this the other day on Twitter was like,

1368
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 9: it's not even Thanksgiving related, but it was like when

1369
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 9: you used to have to call someone's house and if

1370
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 9: you wanted to if you wanted to call a girl,

1371
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 9: you had to call her house and you had to

1372
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 9: get through mom or potentially Dad. And so it's like

1373
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 9: the elimination of all those things in society has now

1374
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 9: created men or adults who don't actually go through any

1375
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 9: meaningful right of passing.

1376
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean I totally agree with that.

1377
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: I mean some of these other rights of passage were

1378
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 2: like elementary things such as be home before dark like

1379
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: that was like a very simple thing, right. I mean,

1380
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: other rights of passage were that you need to memorize,

1381
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: like you say, the home phone numbers or at least

1382
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: five people that you memorizing phone numbers, right. I don't

1383
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: think anybody does that anymore, like anybody I know Tanya's.

1384
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 7: I don't know my parents.

1385
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 3: I know all the phone numbers from what I grew up.

1386
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 7: I know a bunch of when I grew up.

1387
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, like I know much of my buddies, but like

1388
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 9: my brother got a cell phone later, I don't know.

1389
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: I also think it was really important that when I

1390
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: used to call somebody's house, I had to speak to

1391
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: an adult.

1392
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

1393
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: I think I think that.

1394
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 7: Was That's what I'm saying. Fact that about it.

1395
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: I think it's a very underappreciate. There was no texting.

1396
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: It didn't exist.

1397
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 7: No.

1398
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: When I was in sixth grade, AOL instant messenger was

1399
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 2: just starting, okay, and that was a thing. But it

1400
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: had to be on a like publicly available computer in

1401
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: my house. And it wasn't like you couldn't like bring

1402
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: it with you at all times. It was like there

1403
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: was like a very you know, like so it was this.

1404
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 7: Like logging on and logging off was a thing.

1405
01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: Oh, it was totally a thing.

1406
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: That they had the will you would come home to

1407
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: see if you got any messages. And I actually, again

1408
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that was a healthier version

1409
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,879
Speaker 2: of this crap that we have right now, much healthier.

1410
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: And so I loved aln.

1411
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: SE Messenger for the record. I thought it was really

1412
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: fun and it was actually a really really good service.

1413
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: It was really I mean, I really liked it, and it.

1414
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 11: Was a lot of our socialms talk, a lot of

1415
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 11: our social norms on texting that came from AOL and

1416
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 11: SE messenger.

1417
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right.

1418
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 7: Does l O L comes from that?

1419
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 9: L O L b r b l O l t

1420
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 9: t y L l O L absolutely comes from a

1421
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 9: L and seme messenger AOL.

1422
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 10: By the way, there are still millions of people getting

1423
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 10: they shut down Instant Messenger.

1424
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 7: Messenger has been dead. Not only has instant messengers been.

1425
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: Dead is done.

1426
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 7: Game is dead, Charlie.

1427
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 11: It's even older than that, because I I was on

1428
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 11: inte Messenger, because Jack and I are a little bit

1429
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 11: older than you.

1430
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 8: I was on a semester.

1431
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying it was big. Just like to

1432
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: know it started to grow.

1433
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 10: Tyler is way older than Charlie and.

1434
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 8: Jack's older than me.

1435
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, Tyler actually is the first fact, Like, yeah, yeah,

1436
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 9: I loved.

1437
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 3: Here's another. Here's another right of pet passage.

1438
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: Okay, playing a video game so much that it overheats, Yeah,

1439
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: that that's a real thing.

1440
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 7: Or playing a game, playing a game.

1441
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: Jack knows what I'm talking about, especially computer games though, No, no,

1442
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: no no. If you play for too long and your

1443
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: computer wasn't that sophisticated or good, your computer whole hard

1444
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: drive would like start to like overheat.

1445
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 3: Right, that's a real thing.

1446
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: Or how another one playing on either like age Vampires

1447
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: or Sims or like whatever it was, and like it

1448
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: malfunctioning before you save or you can like log your progress.

1449
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 9: Right mom, mom unplugging the Nintendo before Well, when when

1450
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 9: you were on like level eight of Mario and there

1451
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 9: was no way to.

1452
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 10: Save all mom telling you to pause the game when

1453
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 10: it's actually online and you're playing against other people.

1454
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, I had numerous times beating a defeating a level

1455
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 11: super Super Mario and then forgetting to save it and

1456
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 11: you shut it off and you go back, you're.

1457
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: Like ahu to be worried about back then, We're just

1458
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: like so insignificant.

1459
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 9: I miss, I'll say, this. I don't know if any

1460
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 9: guys remember this one. I missed new music Tuesdays? Does

1461
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 9: anyone else remember new music too?

1462
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 7: So that was when the albums were released on Tuesdays? Right?

1463
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 10: I think games still released on Tuesdays a lot. They did,

1464
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 10: at least when I was a kid.

1465
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 9: God there's something, yeah, maybe a group of music, and

1466
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 9: it was always Tuesdays that would come out. So you

1467
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 9: used to have like these mini Black Friday type things

1468
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 9: where you would go on.

1469
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 7: I guess people still kind of do it for games, where.

1470
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 9: You would come out for you know, new music or

1471
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 9: you know, a new album was dropping. So back when

1472
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 9: music actually was like good. And that being said, I

1473
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 9: did ze creed again this week.

1474
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to think of all the rights of passage.

1475
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, knowing the dial up sound is definitely a

1476
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: right of passage, like not having super fast internet all

1477
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: the time.

1478
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 7: Just having to sit remember waiting for websites to load.

1479
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 3: Do you remember asking friends for rides?

1480
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 9: Oh wait, wait, Charlie, what about asking directions and having

1481
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 9: to know directions?

1482
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta dash.

1483
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: You guys, keep talking, happy Thanksgiving everybody, and you guys

1484
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: hold on the fort.

1485
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving Charlie.

1486
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,480
Speaker 8: I have a great Thanksgiving Charlie.

1487
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 7: I see that I realized Charlie was such a thanksgive

1488
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 7: file

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Speaker 8: Conte sa