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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to an emergency podcast edition of

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Speaker 1: Orlando Magic Pod Squad Dante Marketelli George Galante, get you

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Speaker 1: ready for Game six, critical one as the Magic try

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Speaker 1: to even up the series at three games apiece, and

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Speaker 1: we got everything in the ahead of Game six Magic

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Speaker 1: fans don't let fans drive drunk. If you've been drinking,

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Speaker 1: don't get behind the wheel. Instead, find a sober driver

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Speaker 1: or catch your ride service. Remember, drive sober or get

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Speaker 1: We get into everything on this edition of Pod Squad

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Speaker 1: Dante Marketelli, George Galante and Jake Chapman. We recapped the

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Speaker 1: brilliant performance by Pallo ban Cairo in Game five, one

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Speaker 1: of the best Enfranchise history. Also Froz Wagner his performance

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Speaker 1: in Game four and Pallo ban Caro just sensational in

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Speaker 1: Game three as well, nearly pulled one out. We recap

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Speaker 1: that heartbreaking loss in Game five and what it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take for the Magic to get a win in Game

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Speaker 1: six and even up the season series and anything can

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Speaker 1: happen in a Game seven. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun as we recap the series to this point and

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Speaker 1: preview pivotal Game six on this edition of Magic Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: Those fawns of long enough, they're Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 2: This is Cole Anthony, mister Jennings Suggs, this is Paulo

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Speaker 2: Man Carroll the Orlando Magic and you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: And welcome everyone to another installment of Orlando Magic Pod Squad.

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Speaker 1: Dante Marctelli, Jcavin, George Galatee as we get you ready

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Speaker 1: for Game six and hopefully beyond. Is that not the goal?

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Speaker 1: Guys we're talking. We don't overlook Game six, but obviously

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Speaker 1: in the back of our minds we want game seven,

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Speaker 1: We want Round two. We now hold know where the

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Speaker 1: opponent will be here in the Boston Celtics. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we don't play, so it doesn't affect how we

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Speaker 1: look at it. So we know that this team isn't

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Speaker 1: looking beyond Game six. But man, this has been a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun here right now. We thought it was

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Speaker 1: important to do an emergency podcast here get you ready

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Speaker 1: for Game six now that we know start times. Game

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Speaker 1: six will be six thirty for the pregame show and

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Speaker 1: Steven o'clock tip and hopefully if we have a Gage

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Speaker 1: seven it'll be an ABC exclusive. So no matter what, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit orsweet. We will not broadcast on

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Speaker 1: Valley Sports Florida beyond tomorrow night, so we have a

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Speaker 1: heart out and you guys could go anywhere from tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night to the end of June. Right, So this with

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different timeline here for Jake

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Speaker 1: Chapman and George Galante, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Well? You know what was funny. We were on our

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Speaker 3: you know, we have a text thread with myself and

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Speaker 3: you and David and Jeff and Ty Easton, the TV producer,

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Speaker 3: and I think one of you guys said it might

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Speaker 3: have been JT. This is shocking, by the way, if

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Speaker 3: I have to go back and see if it was JT.

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Speaker 3: He says, well, do we root for Miami here to

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Speaker 3: get to to make sure we get another And then

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Speaker 3: you know, we all just kind of that. That thought

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Speaker 3: lasted for I think about ninety seconds of like, no,

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Speaker 3: we don't root for Miami roots from Emmy.

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Speaker 1: So it was nice to that would be the case.

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Speaker 3: There's no scenarios, so yeah, it'll be an interesting thing. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know we're gonna have to We're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: I don't just pack things for no reason. And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean this. The other thing was we're on another

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Speaker 3: the league, And it's funny how when you get to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, no matter how it goes, you just want

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Speaker 3: to keep going, like you you just want more, and

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Speaker 3: then you want more, and then you win a game

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Speaker 3: and you know, like we probably got into this thing thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: hell it was a great season, like we made the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: and then then you win a game and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: now I want to win two games. And then you

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Speaker 3: the finals. Like it's just want were You're constantly wanting

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Speaker 3: Like this is what this is what we do this for,

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Speaker 3: this is what we're where we're all in this to

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Speaker 1: This is awesome. Well, you've checked so many boxes and

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Speaker 1: you've had so much success. This year. You won your

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Speaker 1: first home playoff game, regardless, first home playoff game in

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Speaker 1: thirteen years. That was huge. Fans were electric. I fully

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Speaker 1: of on a personal note, you know, you watch that

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Speaker 1: Celtics series come to an end, and it's the last

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Speaker 1: broadcast for Mike Gorman who did the telecast, right, So

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Speaker 1: for me growing up watching Mike Gorman and getting to

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Speaker 1: call a game in the building with Mike Gorman this

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Speaker 1: year was something surreal that I'll never forget. And kind

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Speaker 1: of similarly, you have Jake Chapman, who grew up listening

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Speaker 1: to Joe Tate called Game five in Cleveland and the

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Speaker 1: Joe Tate Perch, Right, But it's got to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit surreal Jake when you think about I know

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Speaker 1: it didn't go the way we wanted, but there's a

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Speaker 1: Game seven in Cleveland, Ohio in the Joe Tate Perch

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Speaker 1: I know it was a little it was just completely surreal.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really I still have a fully wrap my

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Speaker 1: been surreal for you calling that game five.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty spec tacular.

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Speaker 2: I I called the game in that building before when

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Speaker 2: I was with the Pistons, and that experience just being

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Speaker 2: you know, Richfield Coliseum existed when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: and that that that spot is one of the best

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Speaker 2: I think I'd singed my eyebrows.

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Speaker 1: And the engineer there, Stacey, she's great. She'll be the

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Speaker 1: first to tell you. If you like the spot, you

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Speaker 1: could thank Joe Tate because this is what he wanted.

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Speaker 4: A hundred percent that he literally he said this is

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Speaker 2: Out and the the road English broadcaster me the other day,

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Speaker 4: I'm more at mid.

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Speaker 4: And then you know the Spanish broadcasters, the a whay

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Speaker 2: So I just kind of waltzed right in and Stacey

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Speaker 4: I felt like I was king of the castle, king

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Speaker 1: But no, it was fine when you mentioned Jim Shows.

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Speaker 1: Jim Shows, who a long time NBA player, won a

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Speaker 1: championship in nineteen eighty with the Los Angeles Lakers. Super nice,

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Speaker 1: always accommodates me. But every time I leave a conversation,

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Speaker 1: I think, boy, there isn't anyone that guy wants to

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Speaker 1: all the things that he's done. But he's super nice,

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Speaker 4: I'll say something real bad.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's exclusive to Jim Shoes though, Dante, really,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think it put.

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Speaker 5: Me in on it.

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Speaker 1: You can open that up to a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Peopce a youth think because I was gonna say he

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Speaker 2: was he was very accommodating with his time. When Terrence

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Speaker 2: Ross introduced himself and they chatted corect before one of

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was an awesome experience. I mean, the you know,

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Speaker 2: the only thing missing was from Franz converted up at

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Speaker 2: the end of the game, and that would have made

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Speaker 2: it even more epic. But sometimes you got to appreciate

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Speaker 2: I left the arena. What day is it? What day

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Speaker 4: Tuesday? Tuesday night? Going the boy he came out of

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Speaker 2: But that was a special basketball game, period and just

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Speaker 2: and I certainly will never forget.

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Speaker 1: First trip for a for a guy with a one

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Speaker 1: year old George and his head spinning. Imagine that icker shocker,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to life on the road. People think it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it is spot Obviously it's it's incredible, but it does you.

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Speaker 1: You do have certain points where you're like, Okay, where

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Speaker 1: what city are we in? Listen, guys, I think at

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Speaker 1: the end of the days. As frustrating as that was,

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Speaker 1: now and say, if we can correct these self inflicted things,

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Speaker 1: game six. Nobody looks past game six, but I think

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Speaker 1: there was a feeling, was there not George, that if

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Speaker 1: there is a scenario where you have a gauge seven,

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Speaker 1: we can win there. We feel like we now know

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Speaker 1: what it's going to take value of every possession, which

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Speaker 1: think all of that sunk in and at least maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a somewhat quiet confidence that if we go to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, let's be honest. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: you don't want to go into the game six, knowing well, hell,

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Speaker 3: we have to win this or our season's over. You

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Speaker 3: don't want that scenario. There was definitely a feeling in

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Speaker 3: we just hope that we can overcome it and get

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Speaker 3: another opportunity, uh in game seven. And let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: like anything can happen in a game seven. Anything can happen.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a winner take all. Obviously

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Speaker 3: you would like to have home court. We don't have

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Speaker 3: home court. There are lots of things no matter how

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Speaker 3: this plays out for the Magic, there are gonna be

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Speaker 3: a lot of great lessons that they can take moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Paolo Franz, Jalen Cole, all of these guys, Wendell, all

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Speaker 3: look at the regular season that leads up to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, we win one more game or two

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Speaker 2: And I think it speaks to what George was talking about,

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Speaker 4: The best postseason performances we've ever seen in the guys

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Speaker 1: Well, here's what what well go ahead to do?

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Speaker 1: To me, the game was lost on those offensive rebounds

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Speaker 1: can step up and take some of the pressure off

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00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: and knockdown shots, I think that's the big key because

436
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: you think about franz big performance in Game four and

437
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: obviously the thirty seven to ten the third quarter was

438
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 1: was just an avalanche. But he got to the free

439
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: throw line. He was six to seven, I believe if

440
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: I recall in that game and he was knocking, I

441
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: think he made two out of three three point attempts,

442
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 1: which for Franz, it's been a very very rocky Pender

443
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: shooting season.

444
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: Like all year, it's it just hasn't really clicked. We

445
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: know he's better than that. He's he's gonna bounce back

446
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: next season for sure, and maybe he'll bounce back tomorrow

447
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: night as far as shooting from the perimeter goes.

448
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 4: But that's to me what Cleveland's doing right.

449
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: They're packing the paint when they do have Allen and there,

450
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: they've got two guys who can protect the rim just

451
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: about as well as anybody. Mobile proved in Game five

452
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 2: he's good enough to handle. I don't know if he

453
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 2: could do it for eighty two games, it'd be be

454
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 2: the be the five and bang like that. But he

455
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: is a pretty special defender, and they've got some size

456
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: elsewhere as well. So you know, we've got these two

457
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: six ' ten supersize wings who are at their best

458
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: when they're attacking the basket and creating inside out action

459
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: for their teammates. And with Polo, he's at his best,

460
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: but he's doing what he's doing the other night, which

461
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: is just raising up and knocking down long twos and

462
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: threes over whatever defender you want to trot out there

463
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: at him. The guy's a corps was clued to his

464
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: hip all night and it didn't at or It's just.

465
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: I know he already.

466
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 4: I know he already discussed that.

467
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: That's the key. I was sitting next to Dennis Scott,

468
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: and Dennis Scott was like in Awe of Pollo. He goes,

469
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: he goes, that's what big dogs do. He goes. You're

470
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: watching a guy do what big dogs do. He goes.

471
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: When he's got Moldy, he goes around him, he gets

472
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: by him, when he's got Okoro, when he's got LeVert,

473
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: he just goes over the top of him. He said,

474
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: he's not even seeing whoever's in front of him, and

475
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: that we know regardless of all this series goes. Guys,

476
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: we know what, We've got a dude and a dude

477
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: that's not gonna shy away from the pressure of the postseason.

478
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 2: I like so Q called him a dude with Game

479
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: one of his NBA career, too, you and then you

480
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: got three D calling him a big dog the other night.

481
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what I like better. He is a dude,

482
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: but he's cool. He's a big dog the other night. Uh,

483
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: and he was barking, No, we need to space the floor.

484
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: We need to loosen the defense a little bit. And that,

485
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: to me is the way that you get Pollow and

486
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: Franz kind of clicking together. It's their teammates need to

487
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: help him out and knock down some shots from the perimeter.

488
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: It'd be great if we could do it early. And

489
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: that going back to the polo performance. You know after

490
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: the first three Georgia, I think you said like you

491
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: sort of could see it in his eye, or it's

492
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: because he started over four zero for five.

493
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 5: It's just about every game I'm gonna gate with its

494
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: zer right right, and so if he starts out hitting

495
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: from the perimeter, you know they're gonna have to close

496
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 5: out on him and then he can do basically whatever

497
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 5: he wants.

498
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: Getting Franz going would be excellent, but that takes just

499
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: about everybody else. I think fro you know, when we

500
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: get out in transition, when we're forcing turnovers, offensive rebounds,

501
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: all of those things that we need to do as

502
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: a team to manufacture more possessions and to kind of

503
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: make up for the fact that we're not the best

504
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: shooting team, uh in the world. Is Yeah, I think

505
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: that's where Franz ends up benefiting. So it's on Wendell,

506
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: it's on Mark Hell when he's in the game moving

507
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: without the basketball. We just gotta facilitate the half court

508
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 2: offense a little bit better and and Franz typically is

509
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: the is the benefit of the benefactor.

510
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: After all that happens, I think they're gonna have I

511
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have similar success in the same game

512
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: you're going into Game six, because I think they I

513
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: think they know that. But guys, I think whereas we

514
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: feel some confidence having gone into Cleveland because we know

515
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: what to expect after games one and two, I think

516
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have the same thing coming down here. They

517
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: now know what to expect with our crowd how energized

518
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: we are. I think there's things that they know they

519
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: can clean up, and I think our role players thrive

520
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: in this environment feeding off the crowd. I think they

521
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: know that. I think they'll be more in tune to

522
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: the likes of the Mobogners and Jonathan Isaacs and Cole

523
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Anthony's And not to say those guys won't have big games,

524
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: but I think they're going to be more of a

525
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: focal point than they were going in, maybe going into

526
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: two games three and four. But I think one thing

527
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: that jumps off the page, I think you've been down.

528
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: It might be Game four might be the only game

529
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: in this series where you weren't down double figures in

530
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Yeah, Game five was the only game

531
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: you scored first, Wendell will Adelayan is the only time

532
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: you've you've had the first basket of the game. If

533
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: you could, if you could summon any kind of a

534
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: decent start here in game six, I think it would

535
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: be critical. And I think that doesn't mean you'll win

536
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: the game if you get up by ten in the

537
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: first quarter, but man, you give yourself a shot, because

538
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: every single game in this series, from quarter to on,

539
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: you've seem to figure something out or settled that out.

540
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: Can you not get down by ten in the first

541
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: quarter here tomorrow night, I think would be huge.

542
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: Well, I think Jamal addressed that to post game in

543
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: game five, he has added multiple times he was like, well,

544
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: we could not be down ten after one like to

545
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: constantly have to dig out of a hole, like it's hard.

546
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: It makes it hard on yourself. So yeah, I would

547
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: like to see what happens if we can somehow punch

548
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: them in the mouth. First. You know, we've been smacked

549
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: each game five games. You know, even in game four

550
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: when you're saying we're we weren't down ten? Were sorry?

551
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: I think we're down tech. Yeah, I'm looking it up now.

552
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: So we were. So in every single game in this series,

553
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: you've been down double digits in the first quarter.

554
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: It does make it tough to dig out of a hole.

555
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: Constantly dig out of a hole, dig out of a hole. Now,

556
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: that's been a strength of the magic all season with that,

557
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: when that second unit comes in, they had the ability

558
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: to either you know, bring us back into a ballgame

559
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: or extend a lead. I mean that that's the big

560
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: reason for our success. So it would be nice to

561
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: see how you know how it looks on the other foot,

562
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: if we were somehow able to you know, they haven't

563
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: had to do that yet. They haven't had to climb

564
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: out of a hole. And every time they've been in

565
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: a hole, the hole just guy has gotten deeper. So

566
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: it would be nice to see what would happen if

567
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: we can open the game with a twelve four run

568
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: on on Friday night, or or or you're hopefully a

569
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: game seven, like, let's see how they react if if,

570
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: if we can punch them in the mouth first.

571
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: The way, I've been thinking about this so much in

572
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: this series that I that I haven't stenciled into my break.

573
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: We were twenty seven and eleven in the regular season.

574
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: What we scored first, forty seven and eleven in the

575
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: regular season. When we scored, it's the it's the dubbest

576
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: that obviously scored. But I you should have. I almost

577
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: stopped the broadcast the other day when Windell's fucking Game five.

578
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: It was it was it was a monumental moment. No,

579
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: And it's it's a little confusing too, because when you

580
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: look at like the net rating numbers and all that stuff,

581
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: it's not like the starters are getting blown out you know,

582
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: like when over the course of the game the starters

583
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: minutes aren't killing you, obviously, like Paulo's carried us for

584
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: much of the series. He's been fantastic. The turnovers are

585
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of an issue. Franz had his game.

586
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: You know, Jalen's had big games, knocking down threes at times,

587
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: and we know what he's.

588
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: Doing on the defensive end.

589
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: So it's just a matter of, like the first six

590
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: minutes of executing and I'll go back to Game five.

591
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, you go back and clean up

592
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: some things, making a few more free throws than turnovers.

593
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: You know, there's obviously just I thought Therrys Garland's seventeen

594
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: point first quarter was the difference in that game. I mean,

595
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: he was just ripping us off the dribble and I'm

596
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: going this, this isn't magic basketball like and if he

597
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: wasn't scoring himself, then both he and Mitchell were getting

598
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: into the lane and creating and dumping off to MOBILEI

599
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: And that happened, you know, all much of the night.

600
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: But when you when you you know, Garland came into

601
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: that game completely confidence, completely shot. You have to think, right,

602
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: like I haven't said on the broadcast. I don't know

603
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: if he's been listening to sports talk radio, but this

604
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: guy very clearly has a point to prove, because you know,

605
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: there's so many questions, you know, in Cleveland, and it's

606
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: the fans and not the actual people that matter.

607
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: That sounded a little bit harsh, but you know.

608
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: Everybody's questioning whether or not those guys can play together.

609
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: And I think those guys are good enough, and they

610
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: went out there and kind of tried to prove a point.

611
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: Dari Scarlan's a really good player, but we had done

612
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: a great job with him up to that point, and

613
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he came out and just kind

614
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: of ripped us. So I don't think it's a mentality thing.

615
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: I think it's just an execution type of thing. But

616
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, like we've got to ride that wave

617
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. And yeah, like I don't want to be

618
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: greedy a six point first quarter lead, I'll tak fine

619
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: about a couple buckets.

620
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, and I think listen, I saw you could see

621
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Gary Harris weak the hamstring earlier. Yeah, and I think

622
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: that I think that led to Darius Garland having the

623
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: game that he had. Gary tried to got it out

624
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: and tried to play, and then he had to come

625
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: out there in that first quarter and then came back

626
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: in the second half, tried to finish the game and

627
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: just couldn't. So you hope Gary's able to go here

628
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow for Game six, But even if he does, is

629
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: that thing one hundred percent right? You just have no idea.

630
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: It's the same with Jared Allen. You don't know if

631
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: he's even if he's able to go and play for Cleveland.

632
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: He's short, right, You got a rip contusion that he

633
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: could be limited in some way. So you have to

634
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: figure something out for Garland because if you don't have

635
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: Gary Harris and if they do have Jared Allen, you

636
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: have a decision to make it if your replacement for

637
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: Gary is going to be a big because you've got

638
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: to contend with with Jared Allen, or if you're going

639
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: to go small. So you kind of got some decision.

640
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Martill Foltz has put himself in a great position that

641
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: he could be the guy to step in. He's had

642
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: a great postseason, guys, you know, for a guy that

643
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: struggled at times, and he'll be the first one to

644
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, just trying to find a rhythm. He's

645
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: done it here in the postseason and really the last

646
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: week of the regular season. He looks very comfortable out there.

647
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: And if that's a guy that you turn to that's

648
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: going to have to play bigger minutes, they're going to

649
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: have to start. I think he's ready and I think

650
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: he'd be ready for that challenge. You could go big

651
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Isaac. I mean you could. You could go

652
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Black could be a guy that gets postseason experience.

653
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I think we don't know what that's going to be,

654
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: and hopefully Gary's able to play. But you've got options.

655
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: If you're Jamal Moseley and this this Cabs team, you

656
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: know you've won the battle of the bench in all

657
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: five games. You know they got a huge lift from

658
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Morrison that helped him win the game. They're not

659
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: as deep as you. The Magic havev options and you

660
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: but you do have to figure that out if you

661
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: don't have Gary.

662
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if if Gary is

663
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: limited or can't play at all in Game six, which

664
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: way you go? You beat me to the punch. I

665
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: was gonna say Markel Fult is a really big X

666
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: factor for US. I thought he was excellent, excellent. I

667
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: was kind of surprised you didn't play more. But he's

668
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: given you everything. He's he's had these first five games

669
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: and you're You're right, Dante, Like even the last few

670
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: games of the regular season, it's something flipped for him.

671
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: And I'm not really sure what it was, and I'm

672
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: not really sure why why it took so long, but

673
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: it's definitely there. He's he was really steady, he was

674
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: a great facilitator. I thought he played great defense too

675
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: when he was in there against Garland and Mitchell. So yeah,

676
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see what happens, uh, come Friday night.

677
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm really looking for forward to it again. No matter,

678
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: no matter how this ends up playing out, this has

679
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: been a really really good, good, absolutely couple of weeks

680
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: here for the magic, both in the short term and

681
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: in the long term.

682
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: And real quick, just think about where we were.

683
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: No but go ahead, Jack, I was just gonna say

684
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: just about Game eighty two that Milwaukee, get how close

685
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: we were to a play in right and and so

686
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: you win that game, and now we talk about all

687
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: the experience that we're getting right now. You were this

688
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: close to you know, a one and done, but or

689
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, a two and done potentially, And so I

690
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: I think you got to think about the building blocks

691
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: and how important all these experiences have been, and how

692
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: and how close it is, how easily it could have

693
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: gone the other way if you didn't deliver in the

694
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: clutch of like tomorrow night. Like yeah, it's a it's

695
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: an elimination game. We haven't dealt with that, but we've

696
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 2: dealt with the high stakes game in our buildings certainly.

697
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: So I don't think they'll be scared of the moment

698
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: for sure.

699
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: And I know, sorry, go ahead, Well.

700
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Two things real quick. I think I got I don't

701
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: know about you guys, but I've got in the back

702
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: of my head just because we've seen it so many times.

703
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: We're doing such a good job on Donovan Mitchell. But

704
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: doesn't he have to have like a forty six point

705
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: game where he's twenty. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing that,

706
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: But maybe not, maybe not. Maybe they've done such a

707
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: good job. I just he's such a good player, and he's.

708
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: A minus ten net rating. He is a minus ten.

709
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: But it was like crazy, that's in there somewhere, and

710
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: you can survive even if he does. You just have

711
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: to eliminate everybody else. But it feels like a big

712
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: game is coming, but maybe not. They've done give them credit,

713
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: they've done such a great defensive job on Donovan Mitchell.

714
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: He's an all world player. Guys like, yeah, it scares me.

715
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 3: Every time that guy touches the ball. It scares me.

716
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: It's terrifying because I think he can go off. Listen,

717
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: he can do what Paalo did at any minute, any

718
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: mean nothing. We had talked at dinner the other night, like,

719
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: nothing will surprise me tomorrow night in Game six. It

720
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if we blow them out. It wouldn't

721
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: surprise me. If the Cavs blew us out. It wouldn't

722
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: surprise me if it goes down to the buzzer. Like

723
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: these two teams are just so evenly matched with stars

724
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: on both sides, like that, this is what the playoffs

725
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: are all about. Like this, this is this is it?

726
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: Like this is this is what the playoffs are. This

727
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: is what they bring to you. Uh, it's it's it's awesome,

728
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: Like it's just awesome. But can we before we get

729
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: off here, I don't know if we're we're close to

730
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: donn can we talk about the just the key. I

731
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: know the players have talked about it, and Coach Mosley's

732
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: talked about it. The fans at Kia Center have been unbelievable,

733
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: unbelievable those two games, you know, and we and we

734
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: were all both around for the old building and I

735
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: and I have a special place in my heart for

736
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: they the old building, which which was was louder. It

737
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: was a louder building, just the aesthetics of it, the

738
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: fans being right on top of the court. I didn't

739
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: think the Key of Center was capable of being as

740
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: loud as it's been. I really didn't. I just thought

741
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: it was correct. The just just everything, the way the

742
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: fans are separated from those two games. Games three and

743
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: four were easily the loudest I had heard it in

744
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: that building, yes, since since since we cut the ribbon,

745
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: and it was unbelievable. And I know they're going to

746
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: do the same on Friday night and I can't wait

747
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: to be in there for it. It's just been awesome

748
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: to see the players are all feeding off of it,

749
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, they there may be people out there that

750
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: think it's just that it's just media speak and whatever else. No,

751
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: like when the lights are off and the cameras are off.

752
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: I've had multiple guys come up to me and say,

753
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: Holy cow, I didn't know this place could be like this,

754
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: And it's definitely given them some juice and they are

755
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: pumped and I can't wait to see what we bring

756
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: to the table on Friday night. From a fans perspective, well,

757
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: you went through that.

758
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: That was going to be the last thing I was

759
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: going to say was what how great the fans have

760
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: been and how fun this is for them? Thirteen of you,

761
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: since you won a home playoff game, should at least

762
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: check that box, right, So you've done that. You've brought

763
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: some success back. We know how this city rallies, and

764
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: we've seen how they've rallied the last couple of years, right,

765
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: even when you've struggled and haven't been a playoff team,

766
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: We've seen a change in the crowd in their excitement

767
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: level and understanding what's brewing here in Central Florida. So

768
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: that was a part of it. But what I think

769
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: is also fun for fans, guys, is the rulers. I mean,

770
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: how much fun is this? We know you know, right,

771
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: the latest name is Paul George. We're smart enough to

772
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: know this front office doesn't leak anything, right, So any

773
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: any player that's going to be rulored to the Orlando

774
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Magic is just somebody throwing a name out there, right,

775
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: So we know that we were smart enough to know that.

776
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: But the fun thing about when you're competitive and you're

777
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: a playoff team is guys are linked to you. And

778
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: I think what's fun is whether there's any validity to

779
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: it or not. I think what a lot of Magic

780
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: fans are having fun with now is one, we're playing

781
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: basketball games in May, and two very quickly, if not

782
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: already now, this is a free agent destination. And I

783
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: think you're going to start seeing national people by the

784
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: lake try to connect dots because we all know we

785
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: have to add a piece or two to to be

786
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: a title contender. And I think that part is fun

787
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: for fans. You're you're now back in that conversation, which.

788
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: Is yeah, even if it's an agent that that that's

789
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: throwing it out there and creating it out of thin air.

790
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: If you're not relevant, chance it doesn't work, you kick

791
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 2: me up bargaining champ right right right.

792
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: These if they are to teams that are winning twenty

793
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: two games exactly late to teams that you feel might

794
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: be your tool. Way, that's what makes the conversation fun.

795
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a whole bunch of oh yeah, he's

796
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: interested in Phoenix or Detroit.

797
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: Uh. You know, like that's typically not not being thrown

798
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: out there.

799
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: It is.

800
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: It's fun and like you know, I think I cautioned fans, like,

801
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: let's not think about the offseason just yet.

802
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: Let's let's focus in on Game six and seven.

803
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is like that, you know, that

804
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: sort of news cycle is NonStop and and when you're relevant,

805
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean not jess, are we talking about, you know,

806
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: having money that you could spend and being a championship

807
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: contending team. The crowd matters, like that stuff matters, like

808
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: guys want to come to a place that sort of energized.

809
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, it feels good to be in those conversations

810
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: again period. But I think if you're a prospective free agent,

811
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 2: you're looking and say, they've got they've got they've got something.

812
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: There's something brewing there.

813
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: We thought we had Dwight, and for free agents very

814
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: quickly realized I want to be a part of that.

815
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's back. I think people are realizing, hey,

816
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: if they if they determine they need somebody, maybe I

817
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: could be a piece. And I think you're going to

818
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: start seeing some some names, which would be fun conversation.

819
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any secret. I disliked the Miami

820
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: Heat with the passion of a thousand suns, so I

821
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: think to see them to get eliminated last night, I

822
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: have no problem with that. Right, did any of you

823
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: guys have any you know?

824
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew you guys didn't need it on

825
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: the thread? Are we rooting for the.

826
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I look back on the thread, you know, I never

827
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: we did it said yes.

828
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: We knew that that you knew that wasn't the case.

829
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: Also to like, did you guys like like I know

830
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: everybody was always kind of talks about when opposing fans

831
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: in the past have come in here and like quote

832
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: unquote taking our building over, you know, And did you

833
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: like did you like what happened in Philadelphia the other day?

834
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: And I mean, listen, if it can happen there, then

835
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: it can probably happen anywhere.

836
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: And it is exactly right it could happen. Well, I

837
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: think that's horrible to me. That's more of a testament

838
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: to Knicks fan and that has about a great fan base.

839
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: As annoying as they are, and as much as we

840
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: don't like them filling up our building, they did it

841
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: in Philly during a playoff game, and Philly fan is

842
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: an unbelievable fan nick for as if notxious as Knicks

843
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: fans are, they're great fans, they're great fans. And if

844
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: that can happen there in Philadelphia, it can happen anywhere.

845
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: That That is about as fun a series as three.

846
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: I can tell you where it's not gonna happen. It's

847
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: not gonna happen in the Key of Center on Friday night.

848
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 3: That is going to be electric, and I cannot wait.

849
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: I cannot wait for twenty four hours from now you

850
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: rode out when that building gets turned up.

851
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: And if you don't have a ticket, you could still

852
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: come down and you can watch it. You could be

853
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a part of FanFest which starts at five, and you

854
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: go to Rolantamagic dot com slash Playoffs and you can

855
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: get a free ticket and you can watch the game

856
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: on the big screen TV on Church Street right outside

857
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Kia Center and hopefully celebrate with all Magic fans as

858
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: they leave for Game six. You don't have a Game

859
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: seven if you don't win Game.

860
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 3: Six, that's gotta get Game six.

861
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: Boys, gotta get Game six. That's what it's all about.

862
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: And this has been fun for us. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say I forgot what the playoffs were like, but

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Speaker 1: this has been a lot of fun to come back

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Speaker 1: in this energy and you fans are going to make

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Speaker 1: the difference, hopefully tomorrow in Game six. That'll do it

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Speaker 1: for this installment of Magic Pod Squad. We'll have one more, regardless,

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Speaker 1: we'll have one at the end of the season, or

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Speaker 1: we'll have one to preview the Magic and Celtics. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: but we'll talk too soon, hopefully on Magic Pod Squad.