WEBVTT - Instacart’s Frantic Dash to Essential Service

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<v Speaker 1>High on Carol Masser and I'm Jason Kelly. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for the cover story will Carol. One company that's gone

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<v Speaker 1>from Oh that's a cool idea too, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>have it. During the pandemic is grocery delivery service insta Cart,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't been easy for them. Demand for the

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<v Speaker 1>service has risen to a level investors did not expect

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<v Speaker 1>Jason to see before, and the company even turned a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise first ever monthly profit of ten million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>the month of April. The company now says it's on

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<v Speaker 1>tracked a process more than thirty five billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>grocery sales this year. Sounds great, right, Well, it's tough

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<v Speaker 1>to overstate how unready the company's six hundred ish software

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<v Speaker 1>engineers and one hundred and eighty thousand shoppers were to

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<v Speaker 1>meet the needs of millions of new customers. Deliveries used

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<v Speaker 1>to be easy to get in an hour. The pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has meant it could be hours, days, or even as

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<v Speaker 1>long as two weeks. And that's right. And the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has also added stress to the often miserable working conditions

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<v Speaker 1>of instat Carts, Uberesque contract Army shoppers, as they're known

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Well, they have been protesting their working conditions and pay. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>the company's expanding. It has already grown from a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty thousand to five hundred thousand shoppers in just

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<v Speaker 1>eight weeks. If recruiting efforts well, If they're successful, instacart

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<v Speaker 1>will have closer to seven hundred fifty thousand workers this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the cover story. Instacart wasn't ready to be essential.

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<v Speaker 1>The grocery delivery startup added three hundred thousand workers in

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<v Speaker 1>eight weeks, but COVID nineteen is still overtaking it in

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<v Speaker 1>more ways than one. By Ellen Hewitt and Lazette Chapman,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first ever zoom call with all twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 1>of his full time employees, instacart chief executive Officer A

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Vomita had an inspiring speech ready to go. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all about coming together, noble missions, wartime footings, and

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<v Speaker 1>the sudden ascension of Instacart from mere grocery delivery app

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<v Speaker 1>to essential service for the human species. Then the fire

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<v Speaker 1>alarm went off. This was in late March, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days after Californians had been ordered to shelter in place,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mata's San Francisco landlord hadn't thought to reschedule his

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<v Speaker 1>apartment buildings routine safety test. The alarm screeching over the

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<v Speaker 1>Instacart team's home office computer speakers was at just the

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<v Speaker 1>right pitch to set off dogs, which could now be

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<v Speaker 1>heard barking frantically via the microphones of employees who neglected

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<v Speaker 1>to mute. Mato was stuck. It wasn't one of those

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<v Speaker 1>all hands where I could have put myself on mute,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. I was presenting COVID nineteen was going to

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<v Speaker 1>change everything. He told his staff as best he could

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<v Speaker 1>over the cacophony, and Instacart would have to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>an onslaught within weeks. The company was going to face

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<v Speaker 1>stress on operations greater than anything anyone had experienced. It

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have been worse, audio, says Niela genteron Instacarts president.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was prophetic. Sooner than most Instacarts saw

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<v Speaker 1>coronavirus anxiety starting to reshape the US. The company charges

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<v Speaker 1>fees for its contract workers called shoppers, to gather and

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<v Speaker 1>deliver customers orders, and the occasional substitution from hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>retail grocers. By mid February, Meta and his team were

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<v Speaker 1>noticing unusual behavior. Demand for canned vegetables, toilet paper, powdered milk,

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<v Speaker 1>and purel, not the sorts of things people are usually

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about around Valentine's Day, spiked at warehouse stores such

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<v Speaker 1>as cost Co and Sam's Club, then at Wegmans and

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<v Speaker 1>Safeway a week later, especially in COVID peatree dishes like

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle and New York. By then, the usual midweek drop

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<v Speaker 1>in overall grocery demand wasn't happening. Every day we would

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<v Speaker 1>see the volume was higher than the last day. Madea says,

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<v Speaker 1>in a matter of a couple of weeks, we were

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<v Speaker 1>already ahead of our end of year goal. A week

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<v Speaker 1>later we were ahead of our goals, and a few

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<v Speaker 1>days after that we were ahead of our two goals.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at a certain point we stopped counting. The

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<v Speaker 1>numbers looked too good to be true, were really too

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<v Speaker 1>true to be good. While the rest of the world

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<v Speaker 1>was being transported into the past, quarantined at home, venturing

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<v Speaker 1>no farther than their own neighborhood, instacart found itself catapulted

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<v Speaker 1>into the future. That future was a mess. In the

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<v Speaker 1>handful of weeks since the fire alarm call, demand for

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<v Speaker 1>instacart has risen to a level investors didn't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>see until five. Instacart turned a surprise first ever monthly

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<v Speaker 1>profit in April ten million dollars and says it's on

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<v Speaker 1>track to process more than thirty five billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>grocery sales this year. That's not the sort of number

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<v Speaker 1>normally associated with an upmarket delivery service. In terms of

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<v Speaker 1>pre pandemic e commerce, it's a Walmart or eBay number

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<v Speaker 1>at instacrt. Thank you for being a lifesaver, one customer

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on Twitter. My husband has congestive heart failure and

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<v Speaker 1>we have to be super careful. It's tough to overstate

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<v Speaker 1>how unready the company's six hundred ish software engineers and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty thousand shoppers were to meet the

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<v Speaker 1>needs of millions of new customers. The models that had

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<v Speaker 1>helped predict which items would be in stock and how

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<v Speaker 1>long deliveries would take proved useless. To keep things running,

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<v Speaker 1>many staffers have logged eighteen hour work days and seven

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<v Speaker 1>day workweeks. Nonetheless, the service has suffered because how could

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<v Speaker 1>it not deliveries used to be easy to get in

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. The pandemic meant it could be hours, days,

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<v Speaker 1>or as long as two weeks. Instat Cart became eventually cart.

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<v Speaker 1>The pandemic has also added stress to the often miserable

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<v Speaker 1>working conditions of instat carts Uberesque contract army, which has

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<v Speaker 1>expanded from one hundred and eighty thousand to five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand in eight weeks, and if recruiting efforts are successful,

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<v Speaker 1>will be closer to seven hundred and fifty thousand this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoppers say they're hard pressed to stay six feet from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone while wandering the aisles of grocery stores and have

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<v Speaker 1>often had to work with inadequate protective gear, and because

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<v Speaker 1>the company classifies them as con tractors rather than full

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<v Speaker 1>time employees, they don't get workers compensation or traditional unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>or health benefits, though they can now apply for COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen emergency relief. Years of tension between the company and

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<v Speaker 1>its shoppers appear to be reaching a flashpoint now that

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<v Speaker 1>the contractors whom Instacart guarantees seven dollars to ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in order before tips, are among the workers that governments

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<v Speaker 1>have deemed essential. Shoppers walked off the job on mass

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<v Speaker 1>for a day at the end of March, demanding more masks,

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<v Speaker 1>hand sanitizer, and access to sick pay. Although Instacot agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to meet some of these demands, some shoppers have continued

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<v Speaker 1>to protest by staying off the app, arguing that the

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<v Speaker 1>company's response remains insufficient. Another strike on May one saw

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<v Speaker 1>shoppers join workers for Amazon and other companies in protest

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<v Speaker 1>of their conditions and pay. Instacart has failed to protect

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<v Speaker 1>its shoppers, says Vanessa Bain, a long time shopper who

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<v Speaker 1>organized the March walkout, in which she estimates thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>her colleagues participated, and helped organize the similar size May strike.

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<v Speaker 1>She says the company's training and safety procedures haven't kept

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<v Speaker 1>pace with the mass hiring. Many of the new shoppers

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<v Speaker 1>are people who are economically vulnerable and have been laid off,

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<v Speaker 1>She says. Now they're wandering aimlessly through grocery stores in

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<v Speaker 1>the worst shopping conditions I've ever worked in. Meta says

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<v Speaker 1>safety is instat carts top priority. The company says it's

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<v Speaker 1>spending tens of millions to protect workers. Shoppers want the

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<v Speaker 1>flexibility that comes with being a contractor, and the walkout

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<v Speaker 1>didn't materially affect its service across the board, though maintaining

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<v Speaker 1>instat carts, once vaunted reliability, appears to be its biggest

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<v Speaker 1>challenge for obvious reasons. It isn't nearly as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be at finding and delivering the items

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<v Speaker 1>people want. Steady profits are still far from guaranteed, and

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<v Speaker 1>investors are fine with that since the company looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a key fixture of COVID nineteen America. But how long

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<v Speaker 1>will that last if customers find a faster or cheaper option,

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<v Speaker 1>including shopping for themselves again. Meta, an electrical engineer and

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<v Speaker 1>entry level foodie, moved to San Francisco in when he

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty three. He was looking to create something if

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<v Speaker 1>he could only figure out what he'd grown up in

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<v Speaker 1>Libya and Canada, where he attended the University of Waterloo.

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<v Speaker 1>After brief stints working on phone acoustics at BlackBerry and

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<v Speaker 1>supply chain Management and Amazon, he felt he knew enough

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<v Speaker 1>to start his own company. He experimented with more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty low budget startup ideas, but all either failed or

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<v Speaker 1>quickly bored him. Looking at the loans through ratcha bottle

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<v Speaker 1>in his otherwise empty fridge one day, he grew frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>that there weren't quick delivery options for people who like him,

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<v Speaker 1>lived far from supermarkets and didn't own a car. In

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<v Speaker 1>Meta co founded instat cart with two other startup guys,

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<v Speaker 1>both of whom remain managers. At a moment when Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>was still telling investors it didn't see a way to

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<v Speaker 1>do same day delivery, instacart made headlines by promising that

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<v Speaker 1>same hour deliveries were in its sights. Meta and his

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<v Speaker 1>co founders convinced Silicon Valleys venture capitalists, including some who

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<v Speaker 1>had lost a lot of money on a grocery startup

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<v Speaker 1>called web Van when the dot com bubble burst, that

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<v Speaker 1>they'd fixed the delivery economics by offloading the risks. There

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<v Speaker 1>would be none of the warehouses that sank web Van

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<v Speaker 1>with huge overhead, and the company would keep labor costs

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<v Speaker 1>low by classifying almost all its workers as contractors like

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<v Speaker 1>Uber drivers. This wasn't great for the shoppers, who lack

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<v Speaker 1>basic employment protections, but it helped instac cart secure close

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<v Speaker 1>to three hundred million dollars in its first three years.

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<v Speaker 1>As it expanded across the US, instacart marketed itself aggressively

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<v Speaker 1>to customers, offering twenty dollars off their first order and

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<v Speaker 1>shoppers fifty dollar bonus payments for quickly completing multiple orders.

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<v Speaker 1>It also signed deals with grocery retailers to put roving

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<v Speaker 1>assembly lines of instac cart shoppers in their stores, speeding delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>and with companies PepsiCo, Kraft Highs in general mills to

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<v Speaker 1>buy ads in the app. Madea's team was losing massive

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of money in exchange for volume, but times were flush.

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<v Speaker 1>In early sixteen, he struck a three year deal to

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<v Speaker 1>intermingle his operations much more closely with those of Whole

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<v Speaker 1>Foods market in exchange for the exclusive right to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>for the upscale grocer. Instacart put dedicated baggers in its stores.

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<v Speaker 1>Some stores set up Instacart only storage fridges where shoppers

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<v Speaker 1>could pick up deliveries, and special checkout lanes to speed

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<v Speaker 1>up things further. The courtship soured a year later when

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon acquired Whole Foods. While Amazon hadn't had much success

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<v Speaker 1>in fresh food delivery, investors assumed it would be only

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of time before it took control of the

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<v Speaker 1>business and suffocated everyone in its way, Stocks of grocery

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<v Speaker 1>chains plummeted, and instacart two seemed likely collateral damage. The

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<v Speaker 1>company's imminent demise appeared so obvious that one instat cart

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<v Speaker 1>executive received about two hundred texts of concern condolences after

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<v Speaker 1>the deal was announced, including one from his mom that asked,

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<v Speaker 1>are you okay. Mata and his team say that until

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, the purchase of Whole Foods was Instacart's biggest

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<v Speaker 1>moment of both crisis and opportunity. Supermarkets that had dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Foods as a boogie creature comfort were suddenly terrified

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<v Speaker 1>of being underpriced by Amazon. Over the next year, instacart

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<v Speaker 1>went from two hundred retail partners to three and fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>expanded from thirty two thousand shoppers to seventy thousand, and

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<v Speaker 1>started losing much less money. It completed its separation from

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Foods in late longtime instacrt shoppers say these increased

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<v Speaker 1>efficiencies came at their expense, as the payments for deliveries

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<v Speaker 1>began to vary widely enough that assignments often didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>worth the money on offer. New app features, including an

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<v Speaker 1>on demand cue typically required shoppers to say yes to

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<v Speaker 1>a job within seconds, before they'd had time to read

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<v Speaker 1>the payment offer and judge whether it added up after

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<v Speaker 1>time and other expenses. Last summer, shoppers told Bloomberg Business

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<v Speaker 1>Week that instacart was hounding them to accept unsustainably low

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<v Speaker 1>paying deliveries with aggressive phone calls, text messages, in app messages,

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<v Speaker 1>and other tactics. For a time, the company also paid

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<v Speaker 1>some shoppers less money when customers tipped them via the

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<v Speaker 1>app or outright pocketed the service feed customers thought their

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<v Speaker 1>shoppers were getting. After a backlash, the company agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>change those tipping practices. Made A called them misguided, but

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<v Speaker 1>said it wasn't forcing shoppers to take on deliveries they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do. The bad publicity didn't follow Instacart

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<v Speaker 1>for long. Last year, with his company valued at seven

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<v Speaker 1>point nine billion dollars, made Us started telling interviewers that

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<v Speaker 1>an initial public offering was definitely on the horizon. Instacart

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<v Speaker 1>was designing websites for retail partners and talking about making

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<v Speaker 1>it easy for customers to order custom cake decorations through

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<v Speaker 1>the app, or to buy say every item on a recipe,

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<v Speaker 1>including requests for certain levels of ripeness. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>the company was planning for a world that no longer exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Instat cart executives had been preparing for the pandemic as

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<v Speaker 1>early as February, a time when most Americans were still

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<v Speaker 1>eating at restaurants, watching sports, and never considering letting their

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<v Speaker 1>toddlers give them a haircut. But that was still far

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<v Speaker 1>too little time to adequately corona proof insta carts most

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<v Speaker 1>basic services for the needs of its suddenly captive audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Job one was keeping the website online instead of musing

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<v Speaker 1>idly about recipe integration. The members of insta carts engineering

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<v Speaker 1>team found themselves pushed to their limits simply maintaining the

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<v Speaker 1>site while traffic was doubling every week. The team quintupled

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<v Speaker 1>server capacity using awkwardly enough Amazon Web Services, and programmed

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<v Speaker 1>some added flexibility into the system in case of emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>When stressed, the site can now turn off features such

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<v Speaker 1>as autocorrect or delay notification. Demand is so high that

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<v Speaker 1>it's no longer sending email promotions aimed at attracting new customers,

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<v Speaker 1>which keeps bandwidth down a bit too. Instacart has suffered

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<v Speaker 1>some brief service interruptions, including a twenty minute freeze on

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<v Speaker 1>new orders in March, but never the full system failure

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<v Speaker 1>that engineers call a hard down. Instacarts software has also

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<v Speaker 1>struggled to continue knowing where the groceries are. The site's

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<v Speaker 1>found rate, an internal metric that shows how often an

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<v Speaker 1>exact item is on the shelf where it's supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>is usually above nine. In late March, it dropped to

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<v Speaker 1>Now it hovers at about seventy, way better than customers

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<v Speaker 1>odds of finding two ply toilet paper at their corner store,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the odds they want in an emergency. The

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<v Speaker 1>app has repeatedly suggested, for example, that customers looking for

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<v Speaker 1>cottonell try printer paper instead. Out of stock items are

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<v Speaker 1>now labeled as such, and the app automatically cancels the

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<v Speaker 1>order if there's nothing to deliver or close substitutes aren't available.

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<v Speaker 1>Programmers also rewrote their old models for predicting whether items

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<v Speaker 1>would be available to base those assessments on more recent data,

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<v Speaker 1>because the past is a much less effective predictor than

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be. Things are changing so fast, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a month's worth of data is not useful

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<v Speaker 1>right now, says Mark Schoff, the chief technology officer. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to look at days to give at least some

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<v Speaker 1>option to customers who couldn't find same day or next

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<v Speaker 1>day delivery slots. Instacart began offering more distant options. Some

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<v Speaker 1>orders now arrive as many as thirteen days after they're placed,

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<v Speaker 1>by which point the items to customers wanted are often

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<v Speaker 1>long gone. Predicting availability thirteen days out is really difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Schof says all this pressure has made Instacart less fastidious.

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<v Speaker 1>Software updates the engineers used to agonize over for months

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<v Speaker 1>now move in a couple of weeks to help get

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<v Speaker 1>new shoppers into the aisles as quickly as possible. They

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<v Speaker 1>can pay with their smartphone and instead of waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>an Instacart debit card to arrive in the mail. Long

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<v Speaker 1>time shoppers say their new colleagues don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>signing up for. They say shopping for Instacart was draining

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<v Speaker 1>before the coronavirus, when the company required shoppers to work

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<v Speaker 1>ninety hours in three weeks or twenty five hours and

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<v Speaker 1>three weekends to have a chance at the most desirable shifts,

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<v Speaker 1>and often restricted their ability to work if they refused

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<v Speaker 1>on desirable orders, slapping them with a kind of demerit

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<v Speaker 1>known as a reliability incident. The company says it's switched

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<v Speaker 1>from shifts to an on demand shopper cue and has

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<v Speaker 1>said reliability incidents were meant merely to improve efficiency. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the physical demands on shoppers are all the more intense

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<v Speaker 1>now that far more customers are panic buying hefty cases

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<v Speaker 1>of water and bags of dog food the size of

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<v Speaker 1>a Great Dane, says Holly Irvine, a twenty five year

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<v Speaker 1>old former dog groomer near Sacramento who's been working for

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<v Speaker 1>instacart since she's memorized the locations of most items in

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<v Speaker 1>her local cost go. It's like the world's hardest scavenger hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>she says. Sometimes she collects orders that weigh more in

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<v Speaker 1>total than she does. She's proud to be helping others,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's frustrated that the people waiting in line to

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<v Speaker 1>enter Restore yell at her and other insta cart shoppers

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<v Speaker 1>when they cut in front part of the company's deal

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<v Speaker 1>with its retail partners. People are just angry, she says.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say everyone is in it together, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like that. Some shoppers say that as their

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<v Speaker 1>risk of exposure to COVID nineteen has increased. They've received

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<v Speaker 1>less support from instat cart than they did before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>The app crashes constantly, they say, and the help desk

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<v Speaker 1>is overwhelmed, even after expanding from a staff of twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hundred to more than eighteen thousand. Shopper Janelle Leavek says

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<v Speaker 1>it took her twelve hours to get a response to

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<v Speaker 1>a question about an order, by which point she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>complete the job. In late March, the company said it's

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<v Speaker 1>procurement team had secured a supply of hand sanitizer from

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<v Speaker 1>a manufacturer in Louisiana. Leavek ordered a six ounds bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>but it took two weeks to arrive, and by and

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<v Speaker 1>it had popped open and leaked into its cardboard box. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she used sanitizer from door Dash and caviare the meal

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<v Speaker 1>delivery services. Instacart says shoppers using its chat tool now

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<v Speaker 1>averaged no more than thirty seconds waiting for her response,

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<v Speaker 1>and customer support generally is back to pre COVID levels.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of March, many shoppers were ready to

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<v Speaker 1>strike Bain, the organizer of the walkout, was an instacart evangelist,

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<v Speaker 1>when she started picking up work on the app in sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the thirty four year old has grown to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the company exploits workers. She runs a Facebook group with

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<v Speaker 1>about sixteen thousand insta cart shoppers who have pledged to

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<v Speaker 1>support collective action, including a handful of walkouts. The thousands

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<v Speaker 1>who walked out in March demanded hazard pay of five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars per order and more protective supplies, notably hand sanitizer

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<v Speaker 1>and wipes, plus easier access to the fourteen days of

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<v Speaker 1>paid sickly for those diagnosed with COVID nineteen. In the

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<v Speaker 1>days leading up to the strike, instacart said it would

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<v Speaker 1>end shoppers hand sanitizer and increase the default tip percentage

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<v Speaker 1>in the app, on top of providing paid sick leave.

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<v Speaker 1>It now says it's spent twenty million dollars on worker

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<v Speaker 1>safety and protective gear. Bain says those measures don't do

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<v Speaker 1>enough to protect workers, hence they may first strike asking

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<v Speaker 1>for largely the same benefits they sought in March. I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely believe this service is going to be responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>people dying, She says. This affects everyone we interact with.

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<v Speaker 1>Instat Cart says it's shopper satisfaction ratings are higher than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and again walkouts haven't affected its service. Indeed, Irvin says

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<v Speaker 1>she's struggled lately to claim in order before another shopper does,

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<v Speaker 1>and given the influx of new workers, some now use

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<v Speaker 1>special software to grab orders at in human speeds. The

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<v Speaker 1>company says it's working to ban those bots, and that

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<v Speaker 1>shopper pay is up six during the pandemic, but that

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<v Speaker 1>could be because tips are of It wouldn't say how

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<v Speaker 1>many of its workers have qualified for the paid sick leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Meta says nobody at Instacrt has it easy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when he tells his executives to silence their phones

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<v Speaker 1>and close their laptops, he still sees them logged into slack. Chaff,

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<v Speaker 1>for one, is juggling the rolling technical crises with caring

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<v Speaker 1>for his two toddlers while his wife pulls long ships

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<v Speaker 1>in a hospital emergency room. One bleary eyed data team,

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<v Speaker 1>working on system maintenance late one night while customer demand

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<v Speaker 1>was low, narrowly caught a stray semicolon in the code

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<v Speaker 1>that would have made for a costly error, says Chaff.

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<v Speaker 1>Vain says shoppers regularly complain to her about glitches that

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<v Speaker 1>make it look like a shopper has falsely reported completing

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<v Speaker 1>a job early, ticking off customers asked what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>for fun Mata says he's been reading The Great Influenza,

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<v Speaker 1>a history of the n pandemic. It's very well written,

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<v Speaker 1>he says. When he's not worrying about his business, he's

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<v Speaker 1>worrying about his parents, who live in India. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>the moment to moment crises have been so all consuming

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not yet thinking about his plans in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Yet, in the case of a sustained lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>or as now seems likely, a series of shorter ones

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<v Speaker 1>followed by backsliding and new outbreaks, the public may need

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<v Speaker 1>instat Cart to have thought through some bigger questions. The

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<v Speaker 1>unprecedented urgency of the company's hiring binge reflects a dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>shift in its business model. Instat Cart made it by

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<v Speaker 1>arbitraging plentiful supply among supermarkets to make home delivery seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a reasonable splurge for a core group of loyal

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<v Speaker 1>customers who didn't worry much about the logistics. The pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has turned that on its head. Now the company must

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<v Speaker 1>grapple with limited supply and unchecked demand. It has tons

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<v Speaker 1>of new shoppers who were Uber or Lift drivers a

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<v Speaker 1>minute ago, and a desperate mass audience that can't as

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<v Speaker 1>easily ignore the risks those shoppers are taking to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>to them. This year, a California law took effect that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it much tougher for companies such as in Stacart

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<v Speaker 1>or Uber technologies to claim their workers are contractors. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any argument Instacart can make with a

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<v Speaker 1>straight face that these people are not employees, says Mara Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>the City Attorney of San Diego, adding that the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has heaped far greater urgency on the issue. On May five,

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott joined California's Attorney general in a lawsuit against Uber

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<v Speaker 1>and Left, seeking driver restitution and penalties. The suit says

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<v Speaker 1>could amount to hundreds of millions of dollars. The officials

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<v Speaker 1>focused only on ride hailing businesses. The companies have vowed

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<v Speaker 1>to continue campaigning to amend the law with a less

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<v Speaker 1>stringent ballot measure this fall. Analysts who research Uber and

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<v Speaker 1>Lyft have said that if forced to classify their workers

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<v Speaker 1>as employees, their prices may rise as much as thirty percent. Meta,

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<v Speaker 1>whose company is helping to fund the ballot measure, says

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<v Speaker 1>that figure doesn't apply to his business model, but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>provide an alternative estimate for now. The federal law that

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<v Speaker 1>provides as many as thirty nine weeks of emergency unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>for contract workers has reduced the payroll pressure on insta cart,

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<v Speaker 1>but legal wrangling and technical glitches often make the application

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<v Speaker 1>process slow and arduous. For Meta and his team. To

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<v Speaker 1>make instac cart a permanent habit, they'll need to reclaim

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<v Speaker 1>their reputation for reliability, improve the found rate, and come

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<v Speaker 1>up with better substitutions for toilet paper. Meta says his

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<v Speaker 1>company is working to do all those things. He says

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<v Speaker 1>he'll restore the one hour delivery window in every market.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly before publication time, the company said it had increased

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<v Speaker 1>a proportion of same day and next day deliveries from

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks. Meta also says instat carts advertising and

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<v Speaker 1>retail logistics businesses should give the company time to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to adapt for both viral times and healthier ones.

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<v Speaker 1>When people build a habit on insta cart, they expect

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<v Speaker 1>that when they open the app, they have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to order and get their groceries delivered the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, if not, the service may not seem so

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<v Speaker 1>essential for long with josh Idolson. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us, and check out this cover story and more

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's magazine, online on the Bloomberg and on newsstands,

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<v Speaker 1>to six pm Wall Street Time. I'm Carol Masser and

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