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Speaker 1: I am so excited to be here at the top
Speaker 1: of the mountain.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: On the way up here, though, I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: not it on some of these places that are sticking
Speaker 1: out from the edge of the cliff.
Speaker 2: No, I've been looking forward to this. I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: I've been loving what you've been doing in early Thank you.
Speaker 2: I've been loving watching your interviews. I'm so glad to
Speaker 2: finally have you here. I remember when I first came
Speaker 2: across you told my team, I was like, we've got
Speaker 2: to get Gary on really.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, man, I mean super pumped to
Speaker 1: be here too. Man, me too.
Speaker 2: And I'm always trying to learn. I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: always trying to grow. I'm I'm new in this space
Speaker 2: in the sense that I got into in the last
Speaker 2: couple of years, and I'm learning from great experts like yourself.
Speaker 2: And I want to start off by talking about this
Speaker 2: because you talk about the ability to predict how long
Speaker 2: someone will live, and that sounds fascinating and crazy at
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 1: It does always that possive. Well, first of all, it's
Speaker 1: based on large data, and it wasn't me just looking
Speaker 1: at blood work and gene tests and saying I can
Speaker 1: tell you how many more months you have left on earth.
Speaker 1: But if we got in the industry that I was
Speaker 1: previously associated with, which was large life insurance, if we
Speaker 1: got ten years of medical records on you and ten
Speaker 1: years of demographic data, we could tell the insurance company
Speaker 1: how long you had to live to the month. And
Speaker 1: there are enormous companies that do this. If the biggest
Speaker 1: one is probably a Fasano in Associates. But this is
Speaker 1: based on very very large pools of data. And remember
Speaker 1: that life insurance companies have data that no other financial
Speaker 1: services enterprise has. No other you know, bank has, CDC
Speaker 1: doesn't have it, Collegiate universities that are doing longevity studies
Speaker 1: don't have it. And that is that they know the day,
Speaker 1: the date, the time, the location, and the cause of
Speaker 1: death for hundreds of millions of lives. And they have
Speaker 1: blood work on these people. They have, you know, very
Speaker 1: in depth analytics on their demographic data. If you've ever
Speaker 1: applied for a large life insurance company or large life
Speaker 1: insurance policy, let's say five million, ten million, twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollar policy, there was at some point somebody determining
Speaker 1: not where you were on an actuary curve, but your
Speaker 1: specific mortality. And the way that it's done is you
Speaker 1: start with an actuar outcurve. Right, So if you're thirty
Speaker 1: five year old male, you have a life expectancy of acts.
Speaker 1: Of your twenty eight year old female, you have a
Speaker 1: life expectancy of why. The question is not where are
Speaker 1: you on that curve, but what is your specific mortality?
Speaker 1: And it's incredible how big data trends can actually predict
Speaker 1: and not only the onset of and the severity of,
Speaker 1: but how quickly you succumb to certain disease conditions. And
Speaker 1: what became glaringly apparent to me was that, you know,
Speaker 1: if the database that I had access to during that
Speaker 1: twenty plus year career could see the light of day,
Speaker 1: it would permanently change the face of humanity. It would
Speaker 1: upend modern medicine in a way that would be catched
Speaker 1: because they have real data, you know. So if you
Speaker 1: went to your cardiologists, for example, and he put some
Speaker 1: heart stints in your heart and you left his office,
Speaker 1: you may or may not ever see him again. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know if something happened to you three days later
Speaker 1: or thirty years later, and you if you pass because
Speaker 1: of complications related to the heart stint, or just died
Speaker 1: of happy ripe old age. But the insurance company know
Speaker 1: exactly day, date, time, location, and cause of death, and
Speaker 1: you can triangulate that back into the record and you
Speaker 1: can see where the mistakes were made either in diagnostics.
Speaker 1: As we know, medical errors is the third leading cause
Speaker 1: of death. And that doesn't mean that doctors are out
Speaker 1: to kill people or that the healthcare system is out
Speaker 1: to kill people. We know that it's completely overburdened and
Speaker 1: sometimes medical error occurs. It just happens to occur at
Speaker 1: a rate that in the United States at least is
Speaker 1: the third leading cause of death. And if you ever
Speaker 1: want to question whether or not insurance companies are good
Speaker 1: at predicting mortality, just look at what happened during the
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight eight in two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: financial services crisis. We had three hundred and sixty four
Speaker 1: banks fail. You didn't have a single life insurance company fail.
Speaker 1: In the United States, a valid death claim in America
Speaker 1: has never failed to have been paid. Now that's an
Speaker 1: impressive statistic, but you also have to realize that only
Speaker 1: two percent of life insurance policies ever pay a death claim.
Speaker 1: Ninety eight percent of all life insurance policies lapse. So
Speaker 1: I guess you don't really belabor that point. But the
Speaker 1: science of mortality is some of the most accurate science
Speaker 1: in the world, and if you really boil it down
Speaker 1: to the sum of its components, you find that it's
Speaker 1: predicting where processes in the body that are running on
Speaker 1: parallel tracks will finally converge, right, what we call code morbidities.
Speaker 1: When that happens, there is a parabolic rise in the
Speaker 1: ability to predict in the terminal end of somebody's life.
Speaker 1: We know that, for example, all human beings leave this
Speaker 1: the same way. We actually all die of the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's called hypoxia, lack of oxygen to the brain. So
Speaker 1: when you can no longer sustain enough oxygen to the
Speaker 1: brain that you know a brain function, that's essentially the
Speaker 1: definition of death. And we think of it as an
Speaker 1: event like a gunshot wound, a heart attack, bus, a stroke,
Speaker 1: you know, some other kind of event. But the truth
Speaker 1: is that this is a predictable curve. We used to
Speaker 1: use an underlying what we call a hypoxic curve. How
Speaker 1: well is this person managing oxygen or how poorly are
Speaker 1: they managing oxygen And once we were able to predict that,
Speaker 1: looking at blood cell counts, hemoglobin levels, hormone levels, nutrient deficiencies,
Speaker 1: you can very accurately discern whether or not somebody has
Speaker 1: a fighting chance of getting out of their condition or
Speaker 1: of that condition, you know, resulting in their demise. And
Speaker 1: you know, two things were very trying for me in
Speaker 1: that industry. One was that, you know, I really began
Speaker 1: to realize that it wasn't just data, there were human
Speaker 1: beings on the other side of these spreadsheets. But the
Speaker 1: second immensely obvious point that came out of twenty years
Speaker 1: in that career was that the majority of the reason
Speaker 1: why people are not living healthier, happier, longer, more fulfilling
Speaker 1: lives is were because of things that we called modifiable
Speaker 1: risk factors, just simple changes that they could have made
Speaker 1: to their daily routine that would have materially changed the
Speaker 1: trajectory of their life. In most cases, they had to
Speaker 1: do with simple basic nutrients that were missing from their
Speaker 1: body that were causing the expression of disease. And you know,
Speaker 1: anemia's D three deficiencies hormone and balanced not because of
Speaker 1: their endegrine system had a particular disease or pathology, but
Speaker 1: because it was nutrient efficient, and it became so obvious
Speaker 1: to me that if I'd just been able to pick
Speaker 1: up the phone and call any number of these people,
Speaker 1: you know, I could have dramatically changed the trajectory of
Speaker 1: their life.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when I'm hearing you talk about oxygen
Speaker 2: the brain, which sounds so obvious, but it's something that
Speaker 2: is rarely articulated.
Speaker 1: Oxygen to the brain is not just gas entering the brain.
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the molecular structure of
Speaker 1: a lot of the states in the brain that we
Speaker 1: talk about, Like if you were to say to me,
Speaker 1: what is a mood? What is an emotional state? Well,
Speaker 1: it's a collection of neurotransmitters, in most cases bound to oxygen.
Speaker 1: If you look at the moleculial structure of some of
Speaker 1: these activated, deactivated neurotransmitters, or some of these the differences
Speaker 1: between different moods elevated emotional states passion, elation, joy, arousal,
Speaker 1: or suppressed emotional states anger, you know, vengeance, despair, You'd
Speaker 1: find that a large reason, a large difference between these
Speaker 1: two emotional states is the presence of oxygen. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why no human being has ever
Speaker 1: woken up laughing is because you don't have the oxidative
Speaker 1: state to experience laughter. But can you wake up angry
Speaker 1: very easily? Lower to your emotional states do not require
Speaker 1: the presence of oxygen. And so when you know, if
Speaker 1: you want to do a fun experiment and I just
Speaker 1: just pinch your wife while she's in a deep sleep,
Speaker 1: she will instantly wake up angry. Right, I actually don't
Speaker 1: suggest that I may not. But if you wanted her
Speaker 1: to laugh, right, if you wanted her to be joyous,
Speaker 1: if you wanted her to be elated, aroused, you would
Speaker 1: have to you know, wake her up, improve the oxidative state,
Speaker 1: and then allow those emotions to come in to play.
Speaker 1: And and so you know, I have a saying that
Speaker 1: the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease. And
Speaker 1: so we know, and you know very well because you're
Speaker 1: you're you're in the space that we feel emotion in
Speaker 1: an area of the brain called the amygdalah right, a
Speaker 1: little two little almonds. And fascinating thing about this area
Speaker 1: of the brain where we experience every emotional state that
Speaker 1: we can experience if you're angry, you're angry in the amigdala.
Speaker 1: If you're elated, you're elated in the amigal area of
Speaker 1: the brain. Is that it is, according to MIT, the
Speaker 1: sole gateway to the hippocampus, which is where our memory
Speaker 1: is stored. And so when you start thinking about that
Speaker 1: from a physiological standpoint, like, well, the sole gateway to
Speaker 1: the hippocampus is through the amigla, But when you start
Speaker 1: thinking from a practical standpoint, then the sole gateway to
Speaker 1: our memory is through our current emotional state. And if
Speaker 1: that's how we access memory, and memory is what we
Speaker 1: draw upon our prefernal cortex, and our consciousness, our future
Speaker 1: draws from our memories, then if the amigla is what
Speaker 1: accesses the hippocampus part of the brain and taps into
Speaker 1: our memory, and then our conscience pulls from our memory,
Speaker 1: then this essentially means that your current emotional state determines
Speaker 1: your future. And I just feel like if we could
Speaker 1: improve the capacity for people to experience elevated emotional states
Speaker 1: for prolonged periods of time, not like a heart monitor, right,
Speaker 1: because you find so many people that are not in
Speaker 1: good physiological condition, that are trying to become in better
Speaker 1: emotional condition, right, better mood, and they are only able
Speaker 1: to reach these emotional states for short periods of time,
Speaker 1: like a heart monitor. So and they do all the
Speaker 1: right things. They wake up, they journal, they read self help,
Speaker 1: motivational books, they go to the right seminars, they try
Speaker 1: to express gratitude, even even fake their way through it.
Speaker 1: But as soon as they're done that intentional focus, it
Speaker 1: drops back down into the state where they most comfortably exist.
Speaker 1: And I believe a lot of this has to do
Speaker 1: with the oxidative state in the brain. It also has
Speaker 1: to do with nutrient deficiencies, right, I mean, every every
Speaker 1: emotion that we can feel, every every mood that we
Speaker 1: can experience, is a collection of neurotransmitters. As we have
Speaker 1: imbalances and deficiencies in these, then we cannot manufacture the
Speaker 1: moods and the emotional states that we really want to experience.
Speaker 1: And then we're told we have a mood disorder or
Speaker 1: a mental illness, and I think very often we just
Speaker 1: have a lack of mental fitness. And so when you realize,
Speaker 1: like the happiest people are the people that are moving
Speaker 1: the most, that have the greatest sense of purpose and
Speaker 1: that they're not necessarily the world's greatest biohackers. But they're
Speaker 1: eating whole foods, they're moving their body a lot, they
Speaker 1: have a sense of purpose. You look at the blue
Speaker 1: zones and some of the things that actually extend life.
Speaker 1: You know, we would see this in the medical record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're those people actually having some alcohol. Yeah, where those
Speaker 1: people actually having a little bit of elevated LDL cholesterol.
Speaker 1: Sure did those people eat sweets once in a while, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they sure did. But they moved on a consistent basis,
Speaker 1: and they had relationships, They had a sense of purpose,
Speaker 1: and for the most part, they ate whole foods and
Speaker 1: not any particular type of whole food, not any particular
Speaker 1: type of diet. Wasn't the carnivore diet that extended their life.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the keto diet that extended their life. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the raw food vegan diet that extended their life.
Speaker 1: It was the whole food diet, you know, just eating
Speaker 1: real foods. So I kind of diverted there for a.
Speaker 2: Second, But no, I get where you're going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how sometimes my wife is like, you just eat
Speaker 1: people's face, you know. So the government you sit next
Speaker 1: to me on like a commercial flight or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it, I love it. Just how
Speaker 2: do we how do we? How do we do that?
Speaker 2: They're like, how do we get more oxygen into our brain?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does that look like?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we know that sedentary lifestyle is the
Speaker 1: leading cause of all cause mortality, right, And why is
Speaker 1: sedentary lifestyle the leading cause of all cause mortality? We
Speaker 1: know that the sitting is the new smoking. Well, we
Speaker 1: know why smoking was bad for you, right, it's short
Speaker 1: of the lungs. But uh, and you know that the
Speaker 1: nicketine caused permanent lung damage. And but it wasn't the
Speaker 1: really the nicketine. It was the reduction in the oxidative state.
Speaker 1: And when the body doesn't have oxygen, it can't really
Speaker 1: defend itself. I mean, if you actually were to go
Speaker 1: in through the wall of a cell, go through the
Speaker 1: cytoplasm and find the little organelles floating around in there,
Speaker 1: called the mitochondria, which there's probably one thousand or so
Speaker 1: per cell and thirty two trillion cells, so it's estimated
Speaker 1: we have one hundred and ten trillion mitochondria, about ten
Speaker 1: percent of your body weight of these little mitochondria. These
Speaker 1: this is the true energy source for human beings. And
Speaker 1: when cells become metabolically sick, it usually begins in the mitochondria,
Speaker 1: including the genesis of cancer and forms of all kinds
Speaker 1: of different pathologies. So when the mitochondria does not have
Speaker 1: the right oxidative state, you have a sixteenfold step down
Speaker 1: in its production of energy. And what happens when you
Speaker 1: take a sixteenfold step down in the energetic state of
Speaker 1: a cell is now that cell can no longer eliminate waste, repair,
Speaker 1: to toxify, regenerate, and so you're becoming metabolically sick mainly
Speaker 1: because of the deficiency and oxygen. It's not that linear,
Speaker 1: but that is the main component. And sedentary lifestyle means
Speaker 1: that we have prolonged periods of where our respiratory rate
Speaker 1: is very shallow. When a respiratory rates very shallow, the
Speaker 1: majority of the air that we breathe in and out
Speaker 1: is high in carbon dioxide seek spelled air. I mean
Speaker 1: right now, every time you let out a breath from
Speaker 1: the tip of your nose, in the front of your lips,
Speaker 1: all the way down your esophagus, through the back of
Speaker 1: your pharynx and all the way down and out to
Speaker 1: the baranchials in your lungs. This is all expired air.
Speaker 1: So when you breathe in and out, if it's very shallow,
Speaker 1: you're breathing in that repetitively expired air, and you're dropping
Speaker 1: that oxidative state in the blood. You're making the blood
Speaker 1: more acidic, You're making it more hospitable to disease, not alkaline,
Speaker 1: and less hospitable and not full of oxygen, which is energetic,
Speaker 1: and so water wasts to get more oxygen. Obviously, things
Speaker 1: like breath work just simply moving body.
Speaker 2: Give us, give us one that. So I love what
Speaker 2: you're saying here because it's so fascinating to understand that
Speaker 2: the reason a shallow breath is reducing our lifespan is
Speaker 2: because of this idea of just how much can get
Speaker 2: stuck and lost.
Speaker 1: In there that's changing in the gases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what are some breathwork practices? Because I
Speaker 2: think what we don't realize today is with everyone dealing
Speaker 2: with anxiety, dealing with stress, dealing with pressure, we're all
Speaker 2: subconsciously breathing far more shallower and we're breathing quicker. And
Speaker 2: you got these shorter, quicker breaths, and I think sometimes
Speaker 2: we're doing it without knowing at all. What are some
Speaker 2: great breath work practices that you stand by that so.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a breathwork practice that I
Speaker 1: take credit for. I use a whim half style of
Speaker 1: breath work. I mean, you could spend a lifetime going
Speaker 1: and I encourage people to do so. I mean the
Speaker 1: lifetime going down just the breath work avenue. There's breath
Speaker 1: work to wake up, there's breath work to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: But I think it's important, you know, as a part
Speaker 1: of a really daily health practice, longevity practice. Are you
Speaker 1: just taking a deep breath now?
Speaker 2: I'm like, He's like, say yeah, I'm like, yeah, let's
Speaker 2: get it really too.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not dying anytime. Yeah, I'm not going I'm
Speaker 1: not going down.
Speaker 2: I'm listening to once and is taking a breath right
Speaker 2: now too. Everyone's like everyone's saying the same thing I'm doing.
Speaker 2: They're doing it right now. Everyone's like counting how long
Speaker 2: that breath is right now.
Speaker 1: The truth is, you know, it's better to breathe deeper
Speaker 1: and longer and less frequently than it is to breathe
Speaker 1: more shallow and less frequently. In fact, wim Hoff, in
Speaker 1: some of his teachings, will do a very simple exercise
Speaker 1: where he'll say, I just want you to look down
Speaker 1: at your watch, and I want you to count the
Speaker 1: number of times you breathe in and out in the
Speaker 1: next minute. And people will just they don't know that
Speaker 1: they're actually being tripped. And what he's showing is that
Speaker 1: the majority of people are are are breathing fifteen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: sometimes twenty breaths in sixty seconds. And what this is
Speaker 1: showing you is if you're breathing that frequently, you're breathing
Speaker 1: that frequently because of the very little amount of oxygen
Speaker 1: that you're getting, and so you're breathing show and your
Speaker 1: brother buddy is trying to get more oxygen. Then he says, okay,
Speaker 1: count the number of breass in the next minute. I
Speaker 1: want you to only take four breasts for the entire minute,
Speaker 1: one every fifteen seconds, and you're gonna breathe in, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna pause, and you're gonna breathe out. And so
Speaker 1: essentially what he's trying to demonstrate is that in that
Speaker 1: same minute, four breaths actually was equivalent to fifteen or
Speaker 1: eighteen or twenty breasts in the same period of time,
Speaker 1: but they were four deep press as we age. I
Speaker 1: read a statistic. I don't know if there's any valid
Speaker 1: science behind this or not. I actually got hassled online
Speaker 1: for repeating this, but I read a statistic that after
Speaker 1: age thirty, less than ninety five percent of people will
Speaker 1: ever sprint. Again, how much truth is to that? But
Speaker 1: as I kind of just meander my way through the world,
Speaker 1: I have a tendency to think that it's you know,
Speaker 1: fairly close. And if it's not ninety five percent of people,
Speaker 1: maybe it's seventy percent of people. But after age thirty,
Speaker 1: and this means that we're not using our auxiliary muscles
Speaker 1: of respiration, we're not using our inner costals, we're not
Speaker 1: using our diaphragm to massage or intestines. We're not correcting
Speaker 1: our posture and getting you know, air down into the
Speaker 1: lobes of our lungs and out of the apex of
Speaker 1: our lungs. And so what wim Hoff talks about is
Speaker 1: is I do three rounds of thirty breaths every morning.
Speaker 1: It takes about eight minutes. That is the one thing
Speaker 1: that I do. Then I never ever, ever, ever miss.
Speaker 2: Three rounds of thirty breaths that every minute you're only
Speaker 2: taking four.
Speaker 1: Breath no, no, so it's three rounds of thirty breasts.
Speaker 1: So the one minute of four breasts was just a
Speaker 1: way of showing you how you're actually hyperventilating yourself. You're
Speaker 1: actually you know, if you're taking twenty breaths in a
Speaker 1: minute or fifteen breaths in a minute, those are really
Speaker 1: short breasts, and which means you're not drawing in a
Speaker 1: lot of oxygen, and you made it through the next
Speaker 1: minute breathing less than a quarter of the amount of time.
Speaker 1: And it just shows you that it's because during those
Speaker 1: fifteen or eighteen breasts, you use the apex of your lungs.
Speaker 1: During those four breasts, you use the lobes of your lungs,
Speaker 1: where two thirds of the storage capacity is. And so
Speaker 1: it's just demonstrating the fact that getting oxygen deep into
Speaker 1: the lows of our lungs and into our bloodstream is
Speaker 1: a very very healthy thing, and it not only elevates
Speaker 1: your mood and your emotional state, but it is the
Speaker 1: antithesis of disease. It can actually even alkalize the blood.
Speaker 1: So I do three rounds of thirty breasts obnoxiously deep
Speaker 1: breast and then exhale, and then on your thirtieth breath,
Speaker 1: and you exhale and you hold as long as you
Speaker 1: can when you start, and you might be holding your
Speaker 1: breath for fifteen seconds, twenty seconds. After several months of
Speaker 1: doing it, because the oxygen tension will change, their storage
Speaker 1: capacity changes, you'll be up to I'm up to almost
Speaker 1: four minutes now, so I can hold my breath for
Speaker 1: four minutes between rounds. And you want on that exhale,
Speaker 1: you want to build carbon dioxide. That's a mean vasodilator
Speaker 1: in human bodies, not nitrocoxide, it's carbon dioxide. The reason
Speaker 1: why we get vascular during exercise is because of the
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide traveling back to the lungs, not necessarily because
Speaker 1: of the pressure. So we want the carbon dioxide to
Speaker 1: build up. We want that vasodilation, and then post vasodilation,
Speaker 1: we take a nice, obnoxiously deep breath in, we let
Speaker 1: that air out, and we start again. It's like my coffee,
Speaker 1: my caffeine, my double espresso in the morning. I call
Speaker 1: it my drug of choice because my body craves it
Speaker 1: like a rat to cheese. So within thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: waking every day, I'm finding a spot to do thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of breath work. And the great thing about it
Speaker 1: is number one, it's free, and number two, it's portable.
Speaker 1: You do it in the hotels. You just sound a
Speaker 1: little weird doing it in the hotel room or in
Speaker 1: airplane bathroom. You know, when I'm on long flights, I
Speaker 1: go in the restroom and do it. God only knows
Speaker 1: what they think of doing in there.
Speaker 2: About every why would you do? And you see it?
Speaker 1: Well, like everybody out there, I'm stressing out, yeah, to
Speaker 1: ring the flight attendant call button. But I was actually
Speaker 1: on a long flight from Dubai back to New York.
Speaker 1: And actually a few times ago when I was in La,
Speaker 1: I went La to to Dubai on Emirates and and
Speaker 1: they got a big bathroom in the front of the
Speaker 1: plane there, and I just went in there and had
Speaker 1: at it, you know, like twenty five air squads and
Speaker 1: then they would do twenty five deep press, twenty five
Speaker 1: air squats, twenty five deep press. And I could see
Speaker 1: the looks on people's face when I came out of
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I'm like, I feel great and then
Speaker 1: every hour on the hour is going back in and
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. I know they were thinking, God,
Speaker 1: just give it a rate, give it a break.
Speaker 2: Guy, gym on planes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They we need to normalize gym's on planes. Know, somebody
Speaker 1: was actually talking to me about them. My friend Mikey
Speaker 1: Wang was talking to me about that the other day,
Speaker 1: how he wants to put gyms on planes. Take out
Speaker 1: the bar and even if you just put like some
Speaker 1: t r X bands or something, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a squad rack with some freeways. But
Speaker 1: but what a cool thing it would be if if
Speaker 1: the business last section in the back, like an Emirates
Speaker 1: it's it's a bar back there with you know, with
Speaker 1: a cool TV and lounge seats. But I'd love for
Speaker 1: one to put some islets around and just throw up
Speaker 1: some tr X bands.
Speaker 2: I would be back there.
Speaker 1: In fact, I had a whole group of people in
Speaker 1: the back of the planes, about twelve or thirteen of
Speaker 1: us last time on my way to Dubai, and it
Speaker 1: convinced everybody to do breathwork, and we all sat in
Speaker 1: a big circle on the back of that airbus and
Speaker 1: did breathwork for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: It was amazing, Gary, what's it. I want to go
Speaker 2: back to some of you said earlier, what's the relationship
Speaker 2: between mental health and vintomin deficiencies.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at I don't think this is
Speaker 1: talked about enough. I don't think it's talked about enough either.
Speaker 1: You know, when we talk about mental health and lack
Speaker 1: of mental fitness, you know, so many mental health disorders
Speaker 1: are in my opinion, poorly understood. They are defined one
Speaker 1: way and treated a different way. And just had doctor
Speaker 1: Palmer from from from Harvard on my podcast. It was
Speaker 1: fascinating how he was treating. And he's a board sort
Speaker 1: of phed psychiatrist, an MD and Harvard professor, and he's
Speaker 1: treating some of the most drug resists than psychiatric illnesses.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the most awful of psychiatric illnesses,
Speaker 1: you know, paranoid schizophrenia, the conditions where people are literally
Speaker 1: tortured inside their own head, voices, what have you. And
Speaker 1: they're drug resistant and he treated them with supplements and
Speaker 1: ketogenic diets. And again I'm not trying to oversimplify, you know,
Speaker 1: mental health by any means and saying if you're suffering
Speaker 1: from sphere depression, just get on the kogenic diet. That's
Speaker 1: not at all what I'm saying. But if you look
Speaker 1: at the if you keep digging in and you say, okay,
Speaker 1: what is a mood or what is an emotional state?
Speaker 1: These are collections of neurotransmitters, their recipes. Right, what is anxiety?
Speaker 1: It's an excess. It's an elevation of a category of
Speaker 1: neurotransmitters called catecholamines. So if catacholamines rise in your brain,
Speaker 1: you will feel fearful. You will actually feel the presence
Speaker 1: of a fear without the presence of a fear. And
Speaker 1: when we understand that, the brain can play tricks on
Speaker 1: us because it truly doesn't know the difference between perception
Speaker 1: and reality. I use the example that if you drove
Speaker 1: home tonight and you got out of your car and
Speaker 1: somebody was standing in front of you with a knife,
Speaker 1: very real fear, right, you would begin to have a
Speaker 1: fight or flight response. Pupils would dilate, heart rate would increase,
Speaker 1: your extremities would flood with blood. But you could also
Speaker 1: be in your place here and we're very high on
Speaker 1: the mountain in la and you could be laying in
Speaker 1: your bed tonight, and you could start thinking about getting
Speaker 1: eaten by shark. You know that the chances of a
Speaker 1: shark being out of the Pacific Ocean and making it
Speaker 1: up there at that theorial even if you had nuber
Speaker 1: when we are virtually zero, but you could have the
Speaker 1: exact same reaction. How is it that I could have
Speaker 1: the same reaction to the presence of a real fears
Speaker 1: and entirely imagine fear because at their core, at the
Speaker 1: hub or all these spokes meet, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's a rise in catecola means. So if we know
Speaker 1: fear can be born from a rise in caatecola means,
Speaker 1: then we know anxiety and anxiousness can be from a
Speaker 1: rise in catcola means. This is why so many people
Speaker 1: that have anxiety or it's anxiousness. Very often we'll say,
Speaker 1: I've had it on and off throughout my entire lifetime,
Speaker 1: and I cannot point to the specific trigger that causes it.
Speaker 1: They could be sitting on a podcast like we are
Speaker 1: right now, very calm, their staff around, nothing to be
Speaker 1: afraid of, and all of a sudden become overwhelmed with anxiety.
Speaker 1: So and then we take it a step further and
Speaker 1: we say, well, where these neurotransmitters come from? How do
Speaker 1: we make neurotransmitters? Well, the majority of these are made
Speaker 1: in the gut. Serotonin, for example, it's methylated in the gut.
Speaker 1: We take a simple amino acid called trip the fan
Speaker 1: we methylated into the neurotransmitter serotonin. It travels up the
Speaker 1: biggest nerve and it creates a mood. We take feml
Speaker 1: alanine and tyrosine and we turn those into dopamine, the
Speaker 1: main driver of behavior. So if we know that mood
Speaker 1: and behavior driven by neurotransmitters that are derived from amino acids,
Speaker 1: then why isn't it possible that deficiencies and amino acids
Speaker 1: could give rise to deficiencies and neurotransmitters. We could then
Speaker 1: be interpreted as a mental illness. And again I am
Speaker 1: not trying to oversimplify mental illness by any by any means,
Speaker 1: I believe in therapy. I also believe that you know,
Speaker 1: meds do work in many cases. But why wouldn't we
Speaker 1: start first? If we define, for example, depression as an
Speaker 1: inadequate supply of serotonin, then why are we not trying
Speaker 1: to raise the level serotonin? If we define some addictive
Speaker 1: tendencies as an inadequate supply of dopamine. The absence of
Speaker 1: dopamine is the presence of addiction. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: why addiction has a tendency to shift is because we
Speaker 1: never treat the dopamine deficiency. We only treat the physical addiction. Right,
Speaker 1: So these are why drug addicts become alcoholics, alcoholics become
Speaker 1: work alcoholics, work altoholics become workaholics. You know, you shift
Speaker 1: one addiction for another because that deficiency in dopamine drives
Speaker 1: you to want to feel normal. And this is where
Speaker 1: I believe most addictions starts is the search for normalcy,
Speaker 1: not the search for a high. Right. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that most most addicts woke up one day and said
Speaker 1: I want to get really banged up. They woke up
Speaker 1: one day and said I want to feel normal or
Speaker 1: numb or numb numb, yeah, yeah. And in this search
Speaker 1: for that numbness or the search for that normalcy, whether
Speaker 1: it was alcohol or nicotine or permiscuity or what have you,
Speaker 1: they felt that that either that numbness or that sense
Speaker 1: of normalcy, and then the addiction grew from that, and
Speaker 1: so they were then running from a low, not running
Speaker 1: towards a high. And this is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I have so much empathy for people that are
Speaker 1: trapped in the cycle of addiction. And I think that
Speaker 1: more addictive therapy needs to address these dopamine deficiencies. But
Speaker 1: now we're getting down to the possibility that nutrient deficiencies
Speaker 1: could give rise to neurotransmitter deficiencies that could give rise
Speaker 1: to states of mental instability. And then we label this
Speaker 1: mental illness. You have add ADHD, you have OCD, you
Speaker 1: have manic depression, you have bipolar, you have schizophrenia, you
Speaker 1: have generalized anxiety, you have generalized depression, which I personally
Speaker 1: think our nonsense. Again, I'm not attacking their mental health profession.
Speaker 1: When you deprive the human body of certain raw materials,
Speaker 1: you get the expression of disease. And we accept this
Speaker 1: in so many different areas of medicine, but we don't
Speaker 1: really accept it in mental illness, right, I mean, how
Speaker 1: how is a leading PhD from Harvard having success treating
Speaker 1: drug resistant mental illness with diet, Because it's not the diet,
Speaker 1: it's the nutrients that they were deficient in. And how
Speaker 1: is it that people that experience high rates of anxiety
Speaker 1: and anxiousness, and attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity
Speaker 1: disorder can sometimes do something as simple as take a
Speaker 1: methylated multi vitamin and experience a dramatic reduction in their symptoms.
Speaker 1: Because nutrients matter. The human beings such a the human
Speaker 1: body is such a fascinating machine.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's the more you study human physiology, the more you
Speaker 1: believe in God. Because there's no way that this was
Speaker 1: just assembled by accident or by chance over time. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't care how much time you give two bacteria
Speaker 1: in a mud puddle, you're never going to get a
Speaker 1: human being out of it. And the intelligence with which
Speaker 1: it's designed. How one raw material enters a cycle, it
Speaker 1: gets used, it creates waste, and then that waste is
Speaker 1: accepted and taken into another cycle and it's utilized, and
Speaker 1: it's like one man's trash is another man's treasure. And
Speaker 1: cellular metabolism is so fascinating because one amino acid enters
Speaker 1: a cycle and it gets converted into something completely different.
Speaker 1: Homocysteine gets it's metabolized into methionine. Homocysteine then can be
Speaker 1: one of the most inflammatory compounds in the human body.
Speaker 1: This gets metabolized into mathiony, which then goes up into
Speaker 1: the mind and quiets the mind by dismantling by by
Speaker 1: essentially down regulating Catechola means these fire or flight neurotransmitters,
Speaker 1: so puts people into a calm state of being calm.
Speaker 1: So then you start to understand, Well, the majority of
Speaker 1: people that have leap disturbance have one or two types
Speaker 1: of sleep patterns. They are either lay down to go
Speaker 1: to sleep, body tired, and they are mind awake. So
Speaker 1: when their environment quiets, their mind wakes up. Why does
Speaker 1: mind wake up when the environment quiets, because you have
Speaker 1: excess catechola means in the brain, there's a gene mutation
Speaker 1: called comp T c MT catechyl omethyl transferrase. It's a
Speaker 1: fancy way of saying the gene the codes for the
Speaker 1: enzyme that that breaks down this class of neurotransmitters that
Speaker 1: down regulates them. Well, let's say that this gene mutation,
Speaker 1: you have this and you have an imperatability to downregulate
Speaker 1: catcola means. That doesn't sound like a big deal until
Speaker 1: you realize that catechola means create a wakened state in
Speaker 1: the brain. And so this waken state usually happens at
Speaker 1: night and somebody will lay there and they will just
Speaker 1: think about the most innocuous little thoughts while they are exhausted.
Speaker 1: They're just like, did I get everything on my grocery list?
Speaker 1: Did my belt match my shoes? We changed the junior
Speaker 1: label to fusia from dark blue, you know, and you're like,
Speaker 1: why am I thinking about this at two thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning, right, Or you get up to use the
Speaker 1: restroom and you go back to bed and you lay
Speaker 1: there and your minds awake. And so you don't have
Speaker 1: a sleep disorder. You don't have a mental disorder, you
Speaker 1: don't have generalized anxiety, you don't have a mood disorder.
Speaker 1: You have excess catecola means in the brain, and very
Speaker 1: often these can be downregulated very simply with complexes of
Speaker 1: B vitamins, methylated B twelve methyl fol eight, the raw
Speaker 1: material that the body needs to downregulate these. And by
Speaker 1: not giving the body the raw material, we get this
Speaker 1: expression of disease, and then we say this person has
Speaker 1: this condition.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I tell the same story all the time a lot
Speaker 1: about when I was in grad school and I took
Speaker 1: these these plant botany courses, which I didn't like to
Speaker 1: take because I wanted to get a human biology degree
Speaker 1: and I had to study algae that wasn't wasn't super interesting.
Speaker 2: Today, That's what was so interesting about right up. I
Speaker 2: remember there's so many subjects now, I'm like, if I
Speaker 2: knew that neuroscience was a of you know, looking at
Speaker 2: biology and so many other things, I would have been
Speaker 2: fascinated by.
Speaker 1: Right exactly.
Speaker 2: I didn't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I really could have cared less about
Speaker 1: playing biology. But and then you know, and then you
Speaker 1: have to start a rock stratus and and you know,
Speaker 1: fossil lineages and all this.
Speaker 2: Other kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, who makes a career out of this?
Speaker 1: But but you can actually get a degree in traffic
Speaker 1: management too, So I guess that I'd rather study rocks
Speaker 1: than traffic. No offense to the traffic experts out there.
Speaker 1: You guys are killing it. But uh but you know
Speaker 1: when we start to realize that, I'm just we cut
Speaker 1: that out. Just lost half your audience right there, Like,
Speaker 1: don't don't offend the traffic eyes, dude, somebody's got to
Speaker 1: figure out when these it's going and.
Speaker 2: Off sorry, I tell I'm just having a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm having a good time too, But I don't know
Speaker 1: how we got down that road. But in any case,
Speaker 1: you know when you when when you're studying plans, all right.
Speaker 2: I gotta go. I don't know why that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I hope your listeners think it's so funny. But
Speaker 1: when you're studying plants and you will cut it, maybe
Speaker 1: we should leave it in. Actually I kind of like it.
Speaker 1: You don't think you have a lot of traffic experts
Speaker 1: to listen to the podcast now, probably probably a very look.
Speaker 1: You probably lose two followers on that. It's worth it.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have a leaf that's rotting in
Speaker 1: the top of your palm tree and you call it,
Speaker 1: true arborist, a true botanist down to your house, and
Speaker 1: you know, they'll look at that leaf and they won't
Speaker 1: touch the leaf. They won't even touch the tree. They'll
Speaker 1: cortest the soil and they'll say, you know what, there's
Speaker 1: no nitrogen in this soil, and they'll add nitrogen to
Speaker 1: the soil and the leaf will heal. We stopped thinking
Speaker 1: about human beings this way. We go very quickly to chemicals.
Speaker 1: And synthetics pharmaceuticals as a way to solve potential nutrient
Speaker 1: efficiencies in the human body. And we're fascinating machines like plants,
Speaker 1: and when if you didn't add nitrogen to that soil,
Speaker 1: all of the things that were good for that plant
Speaker 1: would have done nothing. Right, You're like, well, maybe we
Speaker 1: should water it. Water is great for plants. When you
Speaker 1: put water on there and nothing happens, maybe we should
Speaker 1: add solfur. Sulfur is great for plants, and you put sulfur,
Speaker 1: you put peat moss on there, and you're like, peat
Speaker 1: musca is great for plants. And this happens in human
Speaker 1: beings too. We don't get data, so we actually never
Speaker 1: find the nitrogen. We never find the raw material that's
Speaker 1: actually missing that's causing the expression of disease. And this
Speaker 1: is how most people wander their way through their supplement routine.
Speaker 1: They get they get lost in the myriad of great
Speaker 1: supplements and they start supplementing for the sake of supplement
Speaker 1: well and and good. Yeah it's great. It raises any
Speaker 1: d levels. Is res vitrial good? Yeah, it can Lengthen
Speaker 1: tell them is Saint John's worth good? Is oshwaganda? Good.
Speaker 1: Is sapplemental good? Should I take COQ ten? I mean,
Speaker 1: you could make an argument for all of these different
Speaker 1: things that we could supplement with, but like the missing
Speaker 1: raw material, like the missing nitrogen in the soil, if
Speaker 1: you don't find the deficiency, none of that matters. And
Speaker 1: that's why I tell people that they should get data
Speaker 1: on their body. You know, there's seventy four biomarkers that
Speaker 1: I look at in the blood. They're write up on
Speaker 1: my Instagram. If anybody wants to take those biomarkers off
Speaker 1: my Instagram, take them to your doctor, your your healthcare
Speaker 1: practitioner and say, hey, will you look at these in
Speaker 1: my blood and have your doctor interpret those. That's a
Speaker 1: great place to start. I put the genes that I
Speaker 1: think are the most impactful for mental health and for
Speaker 1: gut health, and for mood and for anxiety and for
Speaker 1: quieting the mind, and for the research that I've been
Speaker 1: able to uncover on add and ADHD and poor sleep,
Speaker 1: poor focus, and concentration. And you could take those five
Speaker 1: genes and you can, you know, find a genetic methilation
Speaker 1: counselor or find a place to get a genetic methylation
Speaker 1: test and get data so that you go, you know,
Speaker 1: like you were telling me, but when we sat down
Speaker 1: before the podcast, you're telling me where you got to
Speaker 1: get your blood work done. That's great because you're getting data,
Speaker 1: You're not just aimlessly wandering around going. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I feel good. I don't know if I feel normal.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could feel better. I don't
Speaker 1: know if maybe some of the little nagging things that
Speaker 1: are going on in my life. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have any but of course, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not sleeping as good as I could work
Speaker 1: it out, and I don't have a response to exercise
Speaker 1: like I wanted. I feel like my focus is off,
Speaker 1: you know, my waking energy is a little I.
Speaker 2: Was gonna ask you idea about that because I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel and I want to talk
Speaker 2: about some of the symptoms that I hear from our community,
Speaker 2: our audience and what people feel and to get your
Speaker 2: take on how to combat that. So one of the
Speaker 2: biggest things I hear from people is, Jim, I'm just
Speaker 2: feeling brain fog, all right. I'm just feeling like I
Speaker 2: have no clarity, like I struggle to make decisions. I'm
Speaker 2: feeling a sense of low energy and so like I'm lethargic,
Speaker 2: Like these are very common things. So with what's going on, then, well.
Speaker 1: I mean everything that you feel about energy, like when
Speaker 1: you say I don't have I'm low on energy, physiologically,
Speaker 1: what you're saying is I'm low on oxygen in my blood.
Speaker 1: Because everything that you perceive about energy is nothing more
Speaker 1: than oxygen in your blood. So if oxygen equals energy,
Speaker 1: which it does, then if I want to raise your
Speaker 1: energy level, I need to improve the oxidative state. And
Speaker 1: how do I do that? Well, one of the ways,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this is the only way, but
Speaker 1: one of the physiologic pathways is if we know energy
Speaker 1: equals oxygen, then we take it a step further and
Speaker 1: we say, well, what carries oxygen around the human body? Well,
Speaker 1: red blood cell carries oxygen inside of a fluid. And
Speaker 1: I'm simplifying for you ultra work biohackers, but the you know,
Speaker 1: the red blood cell carries oxygen inside of a fluid
Speaker 1: called hemoglobin. So if I'm low on red blood cells, right,
Speaker 1: I'm low on vehicles to carry oxygen. If those red
Speaker 1: blood cells are further deficient in hemoglobin. Then the few
Speaker 1: cells that I have that are able to carry oxygen
Speaker 1: have less fluid to carry oxygen. Therefore I'm hypoxic and
Speaker 1: it hides in plain sight. So then the question becomes,
Speaker 1: we're red blood cells and hemoglobe and made well, they're
Speaker 1: made in the bone marrow. So how do I get
Speaker 1: the bone marrow to make more red blood cells and hemoglobe?
Speaker 1: And I go to the bone marrow's boss, which is
Speaker 1: the hormone testosterone. In men and women, one of the
Speaker 1: roles of testosterone is eureythropoesis to put pressure on the
Speaker 1: bone marrow to make new red blood cells. And in
Speaker 1: nearly every case where we see clinically deficient levels of
Speaker 1: this hormone, testosterone free testosterone, we see red blood cells
Speaker 1: and hemoglobin towards the low end of the range. And
Speaker 1: then you look at well, what is testosterone made from? Well,
Speaker 1: it mean it's made from several things, but largely from DHA.
Speaker 1: So if I'm a deficient DHA, you should get that fixed.
Speaker 1: And what is the next macronutrient below DHA? Vitamin D three?
Speaker 1: So you go oxygen, red blood cells, bone marrow, hormone
Speaker 1: testound DHA D three. So if you start in the
Speaker 1: route and you raise your D three level to the
Speaker 1: optinal functional range, which I think most practitioners would agree
Speaker 1: is between sixty and eighty, and then you raise your
Speaker 1: DHA into the optimal range, and you wait to see
Speaker 1: if your hormones respond, and if your testosteron rises, especially
Speaker 1: your free testosterone rises, your red blood cell count and
Speaker 1: hemoglobin will go up. As your red blood cell count
Speaker 1: and hemoglobe and level rise, the amount of oxygen that
Speaker 1: you transport and your blood will rise, and you will
Speaker 1: perceive that as more energy. You will perceive that as
Speaker 1: improved focus and concentration, and your sleep will deepen. Why
Speaker 1: because in low respiratory states, when our respiratory rate gets
Speaker 1: very shallow, we want our blood to be very good
Speaker 1: at carrying oxygen. Because if you're already poorly transporting oxygen
Speaker 1: and then you try to get into a deep sleep
Speaker 1: and your respiratory rate drops and you get to where
Speaker 1: you are hypoxic, your brain will wake you up. It
Speaker 1: will wake you up by pulsing cortisol. And so people
Speaker 1: that have that are exhausted sleep the worst. And ask
Speaker 1: a physician sometime, why is it that people that are
Speaker 1: the most exhausted sleep the worst. They very rarely connect
Speaker 1: the fact that they're law on oxygen, which is why
Speaker 1: they're tired and have brain fog, and they're law on oxygen,
Speaker 1: which is why they're not sleeping because their brain is
Speaker 1: waking them up. And then they do the worst thing.
Speaker 1: They go to their doctor and they go, I can't sleep,
Speaker 1: and so then the doctor suggests something like a solid
Speaker 1: pedum nitrate diazepam, you know, anesta ambient, and essentially they
Speaker 1: tranquilize you. And what's happening when you take a lot
Speaker 1: of these sleep medications, not all of them, but when
Speaker 1: you take a lot of these sleep medications is you're
Speaker 1: in a low oxidative state, so your brain's trying to
Speaker 1: save your life and wake you up. And then you
Speaker 1: take a sleep medication and you block the brain's view
Speaker 1: a blood oxygen, so now the brain can't isn't able
Speaker 1: to try to save your life and wake you up,
Speaker 1: and so now you get into a deep sleep and
Speaker 1: you wake up the next morning you go, man, I
Speaker 1: hate taking tile in all PM because it is I
Speaker 1: am so groggy. It's still in my system the next morning.
Speaker 1: It's actually not true that that drug's been out of
Speaker 1: your system for hours. You're feeling the effects of having
Speaker 1: suffocated for six hours and so suffocating yourself to sleep
Speaker 1: and then and then now you've slept, but you get
Speaker 1: up from this sleep medication and you are still exhausted
Speaker 1: and you still have brain fall. So there are other
Speaker 1: potential causes, but but you know that is the one,
Speaker 1: the one. The one nice thing about the clinics that
Speaker 1: we have is, you know, we see twenty thousand new
Speaker 1: new gene test patients a month. We see thousands of
Speaker 1: new blood test patients a month, so we do we
Speaker 1: do have voluminous polls of data. And some might say, well,
Speaker 1: it has never been put through a randomized clinical trial,
Speaker 1: but it's and it's anecdotal, but it's actually not anecdotal.
Speaker 1: When you see pools of data as large as we
Speaker 1: see them, you know, you can say, listen, if you
Speaker 1: have if you you are clinically deficient and free testosterone,
Speaker 1: you are very likely to have low red blood cell count.
Speaker 1: The reason why people feel so good when they get
Speaker 1: on hormones or when they supplement in their hormones return
Speaker 1: to the normal range is because the effect of those
Speaker 1: hormones returning to the normal range reoxidizes the blood. For
Speaker 1: lack of better words, brain fog has to do with access.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like in the disease Alzheimer's. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: so much that people are losing their memory, it's that
Speaker 1: they're losing access to their memory, right, and in the
Speaker 1: early stages access can be restored, and there's this significant
Speaker 1: difference between the memory actually fading, which it does in
Speaker 1: the later stages, and access to the memory fading. So
Speaker 1: the oxide dative state of the body is very important,
Speaker 1: which is why I think people really need to get data.
Speaker 1: If your hormones are in the optimal range, you're not
Speaker 1: nutrient deficient, you're not insulin resistant. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: your blood labs need to be perfect, but by dialing
Speaker 1: in a few markers in your hormone levels and your
Speaker 1: nutrient levels, you can live a dramatically different life. And
Speaker 1: in the majority of cases, probably seventy percent of the cases,
Speaker 1: people that qualify to be on hormone therapy don't even
Speaker 1: need hormones. They need the nutrients to make hormones, and
Speaker 1: not to me is really exciting. You mean, I could
Speaker 1: just be deficient and something like DHGA like D three.
Speaker 1: I could have an elevated protein like SHPG, and I
Speaker 1: could I could take something simple like boron and lower
Speaker 1: that and raise my hormones and feel a lot better. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you have to go and get
Speaker 1: on hormone injections by any means, but I am saying
Speaker 1: that you need to get data on the deficiency so
Speaker 1: that you can drive a state of being optimal. Because
Speaker 1: so many people that I work with will call me, like,
Speaker 1: you know, weeks into our journey and say, oh my god, Gary,
Speaker 1: I feel amazing, including like Dana White, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you really don't feel amazing. They like what
Speaker 1: they say, You feel normal, right, That's how normal is
Speaker 1: supposed to feel. Yeah, you're really supposed to feel that good, right,
Speaker 1: this was not used to that though, We're not used
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you, what does it
Speaker 2: feel like? Have you worked in your clinics with women
Speaker 2: preparing to give birth and then post giving birth?
Speaker 1: Yes, quite a bit. In fact, our clinic director is
Speaker 1: a board certified og y N. She's a gonecological surgeon,
Speaker 1: she's got a double masters.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like that journey, we still don't talk
Speaker 2: enough about how challenging it is on the human biology.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's very challenging. I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at a women's you know what happens during women's mental cycle,
Speaker 1: and you look at what happens when she becomes pregnant.
Speaker 1: It's perfectly normal during regular cyclical periods of her cycle
Speaker 1: for her estrogen to be as high as you know,
Speaker 1: in the four hundred. Its perfectly normal for it to
Speaker 1: be in the teens. So it has a very large frequency,
Speaker 1: you know, rise and fall depending on where she is
Speaker 1: in the cycle. Soon she becomes pregnant, you know, estrogen
Speaker 1: goes into the four thousands, mainly because you know, one
Speaker 1: of estrogen's primary role is to retain water, to pad
Speaker 1: the uterus and and protect protect the fetus. Has other
Speaker 1: other roles, but it retains water. But postpartum, you know,
Speaker 1: want to the estrogen dominant, and you know it's it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily for women, especially the the level of hormone.
Speaker 1: It is the ratio of hormones in their body. And
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Sartus, who's who's our ob g i
Speaker 1: N is phenomenal about pre and postpartum care. She's an
Speaker 1: enormous believer that certain gene mutations like m t H
Speaker 1: f R which increased the frequency of miscarriage. She delivered
Speaker 1: nine thousand babies, so she's very qualified to speak on that.
Speaker 1: That the gene mutation that is one of the most
Speaker 1: common g mutations in the world. The m t H
Speaker 1: stands for methylene tetrahydrofolate reductastes. It is the gene that
Speaker 1: codes for the conversion of folic acid and its derivatives
Speaker 1: like folate into the usable form called methyl folate. And
Speaker 1: this is what I mean. We have a process in
Speaker 1: the body called methylation, which is where we take one
Speaker 1: raw material which is useless. Fullic acid, for example, entirely
Speaker 1: useless in human Filic acid does not prevent neural tube defects.
Speaker 1: It doesn't prevent anything until it is converted into methyl folate.
Speaker 1: So what if your body can't make this conversion. Well,
Speaker 1: it might not sound like a big deal until you
Speaker 1: realize that number one, it's the most common gene mutation
Speaker 1: in the world, and number two, full of acid is
Speaker 1: the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet the United States.
Speaker 1: So if you have an issue converting the most prevalent
Speaker 1: nutrient in the human diet into the form that your
Speaker 1: body can use. You have a significant efficiency. And the
Speaker 1: expression of this deficiency is increase in the number of miscarriages,
Speaker 1: in fertility, a difficulty in getting pregnant. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about in the female cycle postpartum depression, which can actually
Speaker 1: begin before the pregnancy ends. We call it postpartum depression,
Speaker 1: but very often it begins during the pregnancy. And women
Speaker 1: that have this MTHFR gene mutation, the first thing they're
Speaker 1: told when they get pregnant by their obgyn is to
Speaker 1: take high doses of folic acid. Well, if you put
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred or eighteen hundred percent of the daily allowance
Speaker 1: of full of acid into somebody, a woman like that
Speaker 1: who has that gene mutation and cannot process it, that
Speaker 1: is a disaster. And she develops postpart of depression before
Speaker 1: the pregnancy ends. And eventually, when the pregnancy ends, she
Speaker 1: stops taking the prenatal vitamin and the symptoms go away,
Speaker 1: and so she blames it on the pregnancy, not on
Speaker 1: the vitamin. And this is another pandemic that we see
Speaker 1: is that pregnant women, all of them, could use methyl
Speaker 1: folate less than sixty percent of them can use folic acid.
Speaker 1: So why don't we just give women methyl fold eate.
Speaker 1: Why don't we actually just give them the form that
Speaker 1: would that they're that their body can use. By the way,
Speaker 1: fullic acid also is a man made chemical. You can't
Speaker 1: find full of acid anywhere on the surface theorem, it
Speaker 1: does not occur naturally in nature. So someone convinced me,
Speaker 1: how you know a synthetic chemical that we make in
Speaker 1: a laboratory is somehow necessary for optimal health.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bizarre as it can't be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it wasn't even around I don't think
Speaker 1: until nineteen ninety three or so. What do we do
Speaker 1: before that? Just suffer? So I'm a huge believer that,
Speaker 1: you know, getting back to the basics is really the
Speaker 1: gateway to optimal health.
Speaker 2: How do you know if you have that mutation? And
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 1: Right? You do a genetic cheek swab, So there's a
Speaker 1: cheek swab test. You swab your cheek usually, put it
Speaker 1: in a test tube, you send it to the lab
Speaker 1: and they'll send you back the results. Even twenty three
Speaker 1: in me, I do genetic tests at ten X Health.
Speaker 1: You do not have to do the test through me,
Speaker 1: But you know, we do twenty thousand of these a month.
Speaker 1: I'm sure twenty three meters something similar to that. But
Speaker 1: you also get a lot depending on the type of
Speaker 1: genetic tests you do, you'll get a lot of the
Speaker 1: non actionable data, right. I mean, like if I pulled
Speaker 1: your entire genetic code, it could see that you have
Speaker 1: dark olive skin, you have green eyes, you have brown hair,
Speaker 1: you have detached to ear lobes. But there's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do with that genetic information. Want you want to
Speaker 1: look at the genes responsible for converting raw material vitamins, minerals,
Speaker 1: amino acids into the usable form. I always use the
Speaker 1: analogy that we pull crude oil out of the ground, right,
Speaker 1: But you cannot put crude oil into your gas tank.
Speaker 1: The car doesn't understand that fuel source. Crude oil has
Speaker 1: to be refined into gasoline now the car can run.
Speaker 1: Human beings are no different. We put vitamins, minerals, amino acids, nutrients,
Speaker 1: all proteins into the body, which are useless in that
Speaker 1: state until they are converted into the gasoline into the
Speaker 1: form that the body can use. And this is governed
Speaker 1: by several of our genes and they're very easy to
Speaker 1: look at and you only that test once in your lifetime.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Thank you for that. I think that's going
Speaker 2: to help a lot of people listening and watching, because
Speaker 2: I feel like question when we're thinking about people are
Speaker 2: planning for kids or have had kids and they're struggling,
Speaker 2: and again, I think we all do this. And that's
Speaker 2: why I'm so glad we're talking about this, because I
Speaker 2: think the first thing we blame is our mind. That's
Speaker 2: the first thing we all do is we judge ourselves
Speaker 2: and we go I'm not strong enough, I'm too weak,
Speaker 2: I'm mentally not there. I'm not figuring it out, there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with me, right, But we're not looking at
Speaker 2: the fact that let me actually take a look at
Speaker 2: what is wrong and which part of it and where
Speaker 2: has it gone wrong?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know what I think we try
Speaker 1: to do, I just naturally instinctively, is when we don't
Speaker 1: feel good or something seems to be going wrong in
Speaker 1: our bodies. We're anxious, we're worried, we're depressed, or there's
Speaker 1: something more physical. We're bloated, we're constipated, we're irritable, we've
Speaker 1: got cramps, we're fatigued, we begin to look at our
Speaker 1: outside environment. Right, we look at what's called a cluster
Speaker 1: of symptoms, and a cluster of symptoms is very often nonsense.
Speaker 1: We diagnosed Abraham Lincoln with a depression one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years ago with a cluster of symptoms, so we
Speaker 1: did the same kind of diagnostic. We use the similar
Speaker 1: diagnostic tools today. What if you consider that it's not
Speaker 1: something happening to you, it's something happening within you, Right,
Speaker 1: Like that leaf that was rotting in the palm tree,
Speaker 1: nothing happened to it. Something happened within the soil that
Speaker 1: then caused something to happen within the tree, which translated
Speaker 1: to that leaf. And I always use that example because
Speaker 1: it starts people thinking that, you know what, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not as sick or pathological or diseased or mentally ill
Speaker 1: as I think. You know, people very often that suffer
Speaker 1: from gut issues. I mean we see this thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of times. So they're like they get gas or
Speaker 1: bloating or diarrhe or constipation or irritability or cramping, and
Speaker 1: they are always trying to relate it to what they
Speaker 1: last ate because that makes sense, right, I ate something
Speaker 1: and now I blew up like a tick. It must
Speaker 1: have been what I ate. But you might not be
Speaker 1: considering that. If you're deficient and at the full eight
Speaker 1: for example, very simple nutrient, that the parastaltic activity of
Speaker 1: the gut is off, so the pace of the gut
Speaker 1: is off. You can think of the human intestinal tract
Speaker 1: as a thirty foot long conveyor belt. You put contents
Speaker 1: on it at one end, and as it traverses to
Speaker 1: the other end, from the stomach to the rectum, there's
Speaker 1: a very specific sequence of events that needs to occur.
Speaker 1: There's acidic bacteria and the proximal end of the small intestine.
Speaker 1: There's there's alkaline bacteria in the distal end near the rectum.
Speaker 1: What if you just change the pace of that conveyor belt.
Speaker 1: What if you went into any factory in America that
Speaker 1: works on a conveyor belt system and doubled the speed
Speaker 1: of the conveyor belt, the whole line would break down.
Speaker 1: What if you went into any factory in America and
Speaker 1: reverse the speed of conveyor belt, the whole line would
Speaker 1: break down. But there's nothing wrong with a conveyor belt,
Speaker 1: and so you know it sends people down the wrong
Speaker 1: road because they're like, well, should I keep my gut
Speaker 1: bacteria check, Should I keep my gup biome looked at?
Speaker 1: Should I start taking probiotics, Should I maybe take antibiot
Speaker 1: and maybe may I have cebolt? Should I change up
Speaker 1: my diet? And and nothing really seems to work because
Speaker 1: if they think it's something happening to them rather than
Speaker 1: something happening within them. And this happens very often with anxiety.
Speaker 1: With people that suffer from anxiety generally have the same
Speaker 1: three characteristics. Generally, if you'll ask them have you had
Speaker 1: it on and off throughout your entire lifetime? They'll say yes,
Speaker 1: can you point to the specific the trigger that causes it? No,
Speaker 1: have any anxiety medications helped, you know? They just make
Speaker 1: me feel like a zombie. Those are very commonly the
Speaker 1: same sequence of answers. So that is not something happening
Speaker 1: to you, that's something happening within you. If I ask
Speaker 1: you if you have anxiety, and you go, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: afraid of heights, and every time I walk to the
Speaker 1: edge of a thirty or four balcony, I freak out. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm claustrophobic when I step on a crowded elevator, I
Speaker 1: really get anxious. But if you say, yes, okay, well
Speaker 1: what causes it? I don't know what makes it come
Speaker 1: and go pretty much anything. You know, have you had
Speaker 1: it on and off throughout your lifetime? Yes, then this
Speaker 1: is a sign that this is a genetic mutation that's
Speaker 1: led to a deficiency that's causing the expression of that condition.
Speaker 1: We very rarely pass disease from generation to generation. We
Speaker 1: do pass deficiency. We pass these genes that are either
Speaker 1: broken or operating, and when they're broken, for lack of
Speaker 1: better words, these gene snips, the body has an inability
Speaker 1: to convert a certain raw material into the usful form,
Speaker 1: which means that this deficiency is passed from generation to generation. Right,
Speaker 1: so on, a deficiency in the ability to downregulate homocysteine
Speaker 1: means that you get the expression of hypertension. So you
Speaker 1: see that hypertension runs in these families even though there's
Speaker 1: not a hypertension gene. You see that the inability to
Speaker 1: convert thyroid hormone T four into thyroid hormone T three,
Speaker 1: which is a diadonization process in the liver and the
Speaker 1: gut and the periphery that this process is impaired. So
Speaker 1: people have hypeo thyroid, but the hypothyroid runs in family,
Speaker 1: but there's no specific hypothyroid gene, and you could go
Speaker 1: through dozens and dozens dozens of cases like this. We
Speaker 1: accept that things are inherited or familial because they run
Speaker 1: in our family, not because we consider that the deficiency
Speaker 1: may run in our family and the deficiency can be fixed.
Speaker 2: Two more things I want to ask you, guys. I
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on this tap water, What
Speaker 2: is wrong with tap water? And what is wrong with
Speaker 2: plastic bottles.
Speaker 1: We'll start with tapwater. I mean, there are two or
Speaker 1: three things that I think that everybody should get out
Speaker 1: of their life, permanently, out of their life. Tapwater is
Speaker 1: definitely one of them. And the reason for this is
Speaker 1: that it contains, you know, high mounts of fluoride, contains
Speaker 1: high mounts chlorine. It also contains microplastics very often. Now
Speaker 1: it contains the high levels of glyphosates and even pharmaceuticals
Speaker 1: which are very hard to filter out of the water.
Speaker 1: And you know, we have to decide if we want
Speaker 1: to filter things before they get to the temple or
Speaker 1: the temples. Let the temple be the filter. And what's
Speaker 1: astounding to me is if you ask just about anyone
Speaker 1: what's the most important thing to you, your business or
Speaker 1: your health, they will always say their health. What's more
Speaker 1: important to you money or your health? It's always their health.
Speaker 1: But when you just take one step further, and I
Speaker 1: do this with the entrepreneurs all the time. I was
Speaker 1: actually at a an event this week with Damon John
Speaker 1: and it was high level Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the traveling Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And this isn't the pick on Daman. He's a very
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. I love Daiman. He's done a
Speaker 1: lot for me, and he's and he's just an incredible
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and he's been a very very good friend to me.
Speaker 1: But we were in a room with you know, entrepreneurs,
Speaker 1: and if you went around that room and we asked
Speaker 1: several of them what's more important to you your business
Speaker 1: or your health? And they'd say my health. But then
Speaker 1: you bring them up and you say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: how much money did your business make last month? Six
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars, What was your net
Speaker 1: income one hundred and forty four hundred. How many employees
Speaker 1: do you have seventeen what's your hemoglobe in a one
Speaker 1: C like right? What is your we're your testosterone levels?
Speaker 1: Like right? So true, we are intention is to put
Speaker 1: our health first, but our activity is very different, right.
Speaker 1: And and I could have asked them fifteen more questions
Speaker 1: about their income statement, their balance et, their P and L,
Speaker 1: the best marketing strategy where they're getting the ROI, what
Speaker 1: they're you know, what their best return is on Facebook
Speaker 1: ads or any number of other things, and they would
Speaker 1: have hit every one of those metrics. Don't know if
Speaker 1: they have a clinical deficiency invitament D three or not.
Speaker 1: They don't even have the most basic of information. And
Speaker 1: so this goes back to, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: put an imaginary fence around ourselves and start filtering things
Speaker 1: before they make it to the temple. Just consciously being
Speaker 1: intentional about what we're letting into the temple. It's very
Speaker 1: easy for me to look at food and say, are
Speaker 1: you going to serve me or are you going to
Speaker 1: steal from me? If you're going to steal from me,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you into the temple. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't knowingly let a thief into your house, right, And
Speaker 1: so tap water is one of these things. You know,
Speaker 1: they're fluoride, which we know is neurotoxic. And if you
Speaker 1: don't believe floride is neurotoxic, just find a you know,
Speaker 1: just find a you know, a fluoride toothpaste label in
Speaker 1: your house of years and crest or Coldgate or any
Speaker 1: turthbased with fluoride and flip it over and look at
Speaker 1: the back because there's a required FDA warning on there,
Speaker 1: and it says if more than an amount used for
Speaker 1: brushing is swallowed, contact poison control immediately. It also says
Speaker 1: keep out a reach of children under six years of age,
Speaker 1: and it also says do not use more than a
Speaker 1: pea sized amount. So if you swallow more than a
Speaker 1: pea sized amount of fluoride toothpaste, you're supposed to contact
Speaker 1: poison control immediately. You will get four times that amount
Speaker 1: of fluoride in six eight ounce glasses of water. So
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I call poison control at the end of
Speaker 1: every day when I'm drinking six eight ounce glasses of water?
Speaker 1: According to the previous disclosure, I should call poison control
Speaker 1: at the end of every day and let them know
Speaker 1: I've been micro poison There was an interesting study that
Speaker 1: was published by the National Toxicology Program in March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and they were able to pull this
Speaker 1: data from the CDC through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.
Speaker 1: And what it found was in fifty two of the
Speaker 1: fifty four studies that they reviewed, and in nearly every
Speaker 1: municipality in America that had fluoridated water, they found an
Speaker 1: inverse relationship between IQ and fluoride. So, in other words,
Speaker 1: as fluoride went up, IQ went down. So the more
Speaker 1: fluoride in the water, the lower the pre pubescent IQ.
Speaker 1: And if that's not enough data, ask, we have to
Speaker 1: ask ourselves where is fluoride come from? Well, fluoride is
Speaker 1: fluorosilicic acid. Fluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer production.
Speaker 1: It's also a byproduct of aluminum production. But the majority
Speaker 1: of the fluoride that we use the municipal water supplies
Speaker 1: comes from phosphate fertilizer production. It is the waste from
Speaker 1: phosphate fertilizer production because if we leave it in phosphate fertilizer,
Speaker 1: it burns the root of plant. And actually so we
Speaker 1: can't keep it in because it kills the plant. So
Speaker 1: we take it out and we have a big stockpile
Speaker 1: of fluorosilyisic acid. So what are we going to do
Speaker 1: with it? Well, let's dump it into the municipal water
Speaker 1: supply because there is marginal and I would call it
Speaker 1: weak evidence that we can remineralize in the enamel with
Speaker 1: fluoride and stop twot k, which you can also do
Speaker 1: with high ruxy appetite and other things that are safe.
Speaker 1: And so we dumped this into the water supply. But
Speaker 1: now the evidence is clear that this neurotoxin and small
Speaker 1: doses over time. It's not the dosage determining the poison.
Speaker 1: It is the cumulative dosage determining the poison. And one
Speaker 1: of the challenges that I find with a lot of
Speaker 1: government on regulatory guidelines is that there are safe levels
Speaker 1: of mercury, right, There as safe levels of fluoride. There
Speaker 1: as safe levels of cyanide, but our bodies clear these
Speaker 1: at different levels. Nobody got mercury poisoning from one piece
Speaker 1: of tuna fish, right. They got mercury poisoning because they ate,
Speaker 1: you know, small doses of mercury over a prolong period
Speaker 1: of time. So fluoride is one of those things. Tap
Speaker 1: water is definitely one of those things to permanently get
Speaker 1: out of your life. I use something called an echo
Speaker 1: water filter and it's a four stage roro filter and
Speaker 1: then it actually adds hydrogen to the water on the
Speaker 1: way out. And because the water is demineralized, just remineralize
Speaker 1: it with a with a salt called Baja gold salt.
Speaker 1: But you could also use Celtic sea salt. I like
Speaker 1: this Spaja gold because it has all ninety one trace
Speaker 1: minerals and they test it for microplastics and whatnot. But
Speaker 1: just about every grocery store chain in the world has
Speaker 1: Celtic salt. So you could four stage arrow filter your water,
Speaker 1: add Celtic or Baja Gold sea salt to your water
Speaker 1: to remineralize it, and you're covering the basis of of
Speaker 1: not missing one of the ninety one nutrients, sixteen of
Speaker 1: which are essential for human function.
Speaker 2: Amazing. So what a great ons I'm hoping No one
Speaker 2: please stop drinking tap wars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, please, it's it is the worst the you know,
Speaker 1: the daily call to poison control.
Speaker 2: Poison control, I mean that is like, you know, you
Speaker 2: just think about just the things that we're so conditioned
Speaker 2: to do on a daily basis, and what this doesn't
Speaker 2: make it? I don't feel any different. And then it
Speaker 2: just adds up and accumulates.
Speaker 1: Why would I want to put something into my mouth
Speaker 1: consciously that if I swallow it, I have to call
Speaker 1: it poison control set? And then you think huge, Well,
Speaker 1: how much is being absorbed in my gums? How much?
Speaker 1: You know, the thinnest skin in the body, and your
Speaker 1: body is in the floor of your mouth, and it
Speaker 1: is fraught with blood vessels. One of the best delivery
Speaker 1: mechanisms besides the oral The first past metabolism is sublingual.
Speaker 1: So so now I'm drinking tap water all day and
Speaker 1: then I'm sublingually and then you know, the second thing
Speaker 1: that's in there is chlorine. And I did a really
Speaker 1: interesting video on my Instagram the other day and people
Speaker 1: it really made an impact ripple effect. I went to
Speaker 1: the faucet and I filled up two glasses with tapwater,
Speaker 1: clear glasses tapwater, and just set them on my counter,
Speaker 1: and I had my one of my heads of production
Speaker 1: just take forefingers and hold them down in one of
Speaker 1: the glasses, and he held them there for about a minute,
Speaker 1: and he took his fingers out. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you can do this the kid. To do this, you
Speaker 1: can order on Amazon for six bucks. And then I
Speaker 1: took a chlorine testing kit and I put drops of
Speaker 1: chlorine in one glass, and I put drops or drops
Speaker 1: of the chlorine tester, and the other glass. One of
Speaker 1: them tested very high for chlorine. Them tested as having
Speaker 1: no chlorine. And so the question is where did the
Speaker 1: chlorine go? What was absorbed into his skin in just
Speaker 1: that sixty second period, And so that's how good that
Speaker 1: transdermal it will absorb that chlorine. You can do that.
Speaker 1: You can get a chlorine testing kit for about six
Speaker 1: bucks on Amazon. Just try it. Take your tapwoad, You'll
Speaker 1: never drink it again. Take two glasses of tapwater, fill
Speaker 1: it up, put it on your counter, put your fingers
Speaker 1: down in one glass of tapwater for sixty seconds, take
Speaker 1: them out and test both for chlorine. You'll find whatever
Speaker 1: glass you put your fingers in tests for no chlorine.
Speaker 1: Now imagine that's fluoride. Microplastics and other things. And you
Speaker 1: know when we talk about plastic bottles and microplastics, you
Speaker 1: know BPAs, the biz phenols. These these BPAs were until
Speaker 1: the sixties, they were used as a synthetic estrogen, so
Speaker 1: it was used in female hormone therapy, labor induction, and
Speaker 1: other forms of female hormone therapy. Now, how some scientists
Speaker 1: with way too much time on his hands realized that
Speaker 1: if you actually mix a petroleum based product with this
Speaker 1: synthetic estrogen, this BIZ feedal, this BPA, that you'll make
Speaker 1: the surface of the plastic more viscous and therefore, you know,
Speaker 1: like oils and waters and fluids and things won't stick
Speaker 1: to it. How they figured that out, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: much how that combination occurred, but make no mistakes, the
Speaker 1: BPAs are synthetic estrogens, and there's some indications that there
Speaker 1: is enough BPA inside of the lining of a non
Speaker 1: BPA free can of like tomato paste for example, which
Speaker 1: acidic foods leach it out, heat leaches it out to
Speaker 1: actually shift a woman's mentrual cycle so from ovulation to
Speaker 1: uti or forllicular to ovulation. So imagine that you could
Speaker 1: actually just be eating of food with enough BIZ phenols
Speaker 1: in it that not disclosed on the label, that you
Speaker 1: don't know are in there because it's leeching from the
Speaker 1: plastic to actually shift your menstrual cycle that is astounding
Speaker 1: to me, and so yeah, plastic plastic pottles is one.
Speaker 1: Then I would try to get out as much as
Speaker 1: you can too, Harry.
Speaker 2: I love We've covered so much great ground today that
Speaker 2: we've never covered on the show before. So I want
Speaker 2: to say a big.
Speaker 1: Thank you to you because you're welcome.
Speaker 2: Then there are so many things that I know that
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna be listening. There's so many actionable things I
Speaker 2: know that people can practice straight after this episode. We
Speaker 2: end every episode of On Purpose with a final five,
Speaker 2: and these questions have to be answered in one word
Speaker 2: to one sentence.
Speaker 1: Maximum.
Speaker 2: Wow, Gary Brackett, these are your final Why didn't you.
Speaker 1: Tell me about this so I could have had like
Speaker 1: a really cool answer.
Speaker 2: So question one, what is the best advice You've ever
Speaker 2: heard or received?
Speaker 1: The best advice I've ever heard of receive is you
Speaker 1: if you want to shrink your problems, grow your purpose?
Speaker 2: Beautiful, very aligned. Second question, next time you come to
Speaker 2: the show, we're going to talk about that because you
Speaker 2: have to come back. This is amazing. Yeah, Second question,
Speaker 2: what is the advice you've ever heard or received?
Speaker 1: You're perfect to where you are?
Speaker 2: Question number three, what is something that you used to
Speaker 2: value but you don't anymore.
Speaker 1: Wealth.
Speaker 2: Question number four, how would you define your current purpose
Speaker 2: in life?
Speaker 1: I would define it as God given.
Speaker 2: And fifth and final. If you could create one law
Speaker 2: that everyone in the world had to follow, what would
Speaker 2: it be?
Speaker 1: The pause before you speak?
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Speaker 1: Acknowledge that there is surprisingly little known about the relationship
Speaker 1: between nutrition and health, and people are going to be
Speaker 1: shocked to hear that, because I think most people think
Speaker 1: the exact opposite.