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Speaker 3: Jeff is today. He's doing his thing. He'd probably get

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Speaker 3: right at football season, That's what I'm doing. And we're

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Speaker 3: talking a little countdown, you know, speaking of countdown to kickoff.

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Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about the day's remaining. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I'm pulling my calendar back. Every day is

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Speaker 3: a day closer to the start of the real ball.

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Speaker 3: This is fakeball here in the summer. That's right.

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Speaker 2: We all know that ball means football. Oh you know,

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Speaker 2: some of my some of our Fox Sports radio brethren,

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Speaker 2: they've got it all twisted up. They're like, we think

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Speaker 2: ball is basketball. I think baseball when someone says ball, No.

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Speaker 3: No, definitely not baseball. Baseball is hardball, Like that's the

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Speaker 3: only ball I would describe baseball with if I was

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Speaker 3: using like an adjective or qualifier. But I hope I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree. I'm a hoops guy, like when I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about college basketball, when you're discussing it with your friends

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Speaker 3: or you know, anyone who's not like you know, someone

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Speaker 3: formal use oops college oops. Yeah, I rarely say college basketball.

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Speaker 3: Who says college ball? You say college ball for college basketball?

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Speaker 3: I have a friend that works in this business that

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Speaker 3: calls it college rack and I kind of like that, wow, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you know, like a rack attack, Like I I

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Speaker 3: that kind of I don't know, he's a little out there,

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Speaker 3: you know. I'm always I feel like the longer you

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Speaker 3: work in broadcasting, the more weird words you try to

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Speaker 3: come up with to describe, because it's like you call

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Speaker 3: it the same fake for years, and it's like variety

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Speaker 3: is the spice of life.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, Jared, I was thinking about starting

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Speaker 2: off with something I love to begin the show, because

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Speaker 2: you know me very positive. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: have a I don't know, if you have a friend

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Speaker 2: who's more positive than me. I I sort of wrote

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Speaker 2: a book on positivity. But the thing that I love

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen to be a big story. It's not even

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Speaker 2: that's not great to lead off with. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: started looking at the storylines and the topics and I'm like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: there's something that is annoying me. And it happens to

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Speaker 2: be one of the biggest stories in the sports world

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Speaker 2: foods but it's true. Here's the thing. I understand that

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Speaker 2: Brini James is the story. I get it, but I

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Speaker 2: don't need the life in times of Bronnie James.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and that's what we're getting right now.

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Speaker 2: There was a story on ESPN last night that read,

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Speaker 2: quote unquote, butterflies in my stomach Bronnie James takes in

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Speaker 2: goes from there. Here's Bronni's first bucket. Here's his second bucket.

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Speaker 2: Those were his only two buckets. Here's lebron reacting to

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Speaker 2: the first bucket. Here's a follow up story her interviews.

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Speaker 2: It's like, bro it's too much. I get it, Jared.

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Speaker 2: We can understand that it's a story for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: Lebron is a massive deal, But I just don't need

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of it, all right.

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Speaker 2: And word yeah, day one of the Summer League here

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of when training camp starts in the

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Speaker 3: NFL and every time Aaron Rodgers sneezes, Yeah, it is

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to stop, but I understand

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it too, And I like how you've

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Speaker 2: framed it right where it is a lot like NFL

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Speaker 3: Check out this one handed catch shoulder pads.

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Speaker 2: Great, you get all those videos.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this quarterback was thirteen of eighteen for you get

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Speaker 3: Just wait till it comes to Vegas. Vegas is a

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Speaker 3: they get there. I mean, I don't know how the

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Speaker 2: But the funny thing to me is if you compare

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Speaker 2: This still is the quote unquote dead time of the

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Speaker 2: There's not a ton going on right now. If you're

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Speaker 2: into that, you get a little soccer, actual little copa

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Speaker 2: But think about this where if you compare Browny again,

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Speaker 2: he's just starting off his NBA career, had two buckets

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Speaker 2: in Summer League action. Okay, stories left and right, videos

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Speaker 2: left and right, reaction left and right. Caitlin Clark posted

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Speaker 2: the first triple double in WNBA history by a rookie.

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Speaker 2: That that was yesterday against the New York Liberty. This

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Speaker 2: Rookie History for the favorite rookie. It's funny to me, Jared,

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Speaker 2: because you could look at many things. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: the number of All Star votes that are just up

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Speaker 2: But that number is up, and some of that is

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Speaker 2: of that is met with like this from Angel Reese.

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Speaker 3: I'll look back at twenty years and be like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the reason why we watch it women's basketball is not

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Speaker 3: And I want you to realize that. Yeah, right, So

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Speaker 2: The other WNBA players are like, Hey, it's partly because

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Speaker 2: want you to get that straight. What other rookies are

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Speaker 2: I'm here too, It's not just about Bronnie James, right Like.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting the same thing. And I don't think

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Speaker 3: In the WNBA you won't. And I think we've discussed

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Speaker 3: It would make more sense if some NBA.

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Speaker 2: Players said that about Bronni, right, Like if you said

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Speaker 2: what does she do besides shoot threes? Right, Like, I

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Speaker 2: He averaged five points in in college and we're getting.

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Speaker 3: And Bronni's a maid man. Let's be honest. You go

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Speaker 2: So I thought of you before the show, Jared, because

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you got down, but I was

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Speaker 2: The only team that scored was the Texas Rangers. Nineteen

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, really, I know. And I had two

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what he hung I was. I'm

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Speaker 3: I bet these every day. I think if you want

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Speaker 3: something like some people like to go bungee jumping skydiving

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Speaker 3: This is gambling on steroids because it's like one mistake,

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Speaker 2: The Nerfe slash your fee, which is of course yes

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Speaker 2: It's a completely different picture. Oh yeah, it's a completely

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Speaker 2: a nickel on him today, and he hits a two

429
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: run homer, I can't help but feel like you, bum where.

430
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Speaker 3: Was there was this yesterday? Man?

431
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Speaker 2: I gotta get that straight in my head where it's

432
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: just completely different and you can't tie it to to

433
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Speaker 2: yesterday's result at all.

434
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Speaker 3: It's hard to do that though. That's what makes baseball

435
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: the most difficult sport to bet. I am, and I'm

436
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 3: not just saying like to pick, and I've said this

437
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: for years. I think the hardest coming up with picks

438
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: is not hard. There's a million picks, there's all this

439
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 3: information out there, there's your gut feel, situation analytics. I mean,

440
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: there's so much gambling pick content out there that it

441
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: is so easy to find a pick to something to

442
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 3: bet on. The hardest thing to do in gambling is

443
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: to then manage the expectations and the bank roll because

444
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: those two things are connected. For example, Brian's example, when

445
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: he loses something that he feels like you should have won,

446
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: and it happens every day, and it happens on the

447
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: other side too, where you win something that you feel

448
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 3: like you should have lost and the same exercise can

449
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: be applied here. Have you ever seen the movie for

450
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Speaker 3: Love of the Game, Brian, It's kind of an obscure

451
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Speaker 3: baseball movie with Kevin Costner. I don't think I have.

452
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Speaker 3: So it's basically, Kevin Costner's like this old, washed up

453
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: veteran pitcher and he's pitching a Yankee stadium and he's

454
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: taking you through his pregame routine, and right when he

455
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: goes on the mound, he says, clear the mechanism. He

456
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: just says those words to himself, and you see the

457
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: stadium which is filled with angry Yankee fans. He pitches

458
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: for the Tigers in this movie, and they're screaming at

459
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: him and go back to Detroit, and he says, clear

460
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 3: the mechanism, and all of a sudden, they do like

461
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: a visual effect on the stadium or just goes like

462
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: dark and like blurry, and he doesn't hear anything, and

463
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: he just completely erases everything that is happening around him,

464
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: and he only sees the catcher and the mit and

465
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Speaker 3: then he starts pitching. And it's just and obviously it's

466
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Speaker 3: hard to do that to me. That's like Jedi mind trick,

467
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: ninja type stuff. But the most successful gamblers, the Bill Krakeenbergers,

468
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: they could care less. In fact, Bill, I'm sure he

469
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Speaker 3: talked about this.

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Speaker 1: The thing.

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Speaker 3: You don't even watch the games half the time, right yeah,

472
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: because it's just he does clear the mechanism. Yeah, Ben

473
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: is made, it's over, it's done. Next bet like that's

474
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: the mentality. And most people can't do that because we're human.

475
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: And that's why football is more preferred, because you get

476
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Speaker 3: a whole week to just kind of let it go,

477
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Speaker 3: and then you go back on that team the next

478
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Speaker 3: week and you don't remember. Most people don't remember what

479
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: they have breakfast yesterday. Yeah, no, it's true.

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Speaker 2: And look, man, it's funny too, because you can play

481
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Speaker 2: mind games with yourself. What's funny to me is I

482
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Speaker 2: won't do the reverse. You know, if, for instance, let's

483
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Speaker 2: say I bet the under on runs for the Brewers

484
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: last night and I was correct, I wouldn't think for

485
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Speaker 2: a second right now, like, hey, today they already have

486
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Speaker 2: four runs through five innings. You know, good thing I

487
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: picked yesterday. You know, I don't think like that at all.

488
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Speaker 3: You should because that I should, you know, the universe,

489
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, giving you a pat on the behind.

490
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Speaker 2: I know, absolutely, I should. But it's just when it

491
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Speaker 2: goes the other way.

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Speaker 3: Human nature, Brian, Yeah, you're a human being. I know it.

493
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: I know it.

494
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Speaker 2: You gotta be you gotta be robotic, I think to

495
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: be very successful, because that's the thing. I'll tell you

496
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: this real fast. I just shut it down today. I've

497
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: been running cold late the weekend.

498
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: Know what. I got some issues on the weekends too.

499
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: The week has been much better for me.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna, you know, chill today, no stress,

501
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: no nothing. You know, we'll recharge the batteries and we'll

502
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: get these freaking bastards going.

503
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Forward, right, That's right.

504
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: We got maright attitude that, yeah, the gambling gods will

505
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: have no you know, no beef with any of those

506
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Speaker 2: words right there.

507
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: They'll be like, yeah, sure, well.

508
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Speaker 2: We'll bless you with lots of profits. Here, we've got

509
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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss with us this afternoon. Martin, what is going on, buddy?

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Speaker 7: We got tennis right now. Wimbledon's men's side three c

511
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Speaker 7: Carlos al Kraz won his fourth Rown match in four sets.

512
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Speaker 7: He's advantage to his ninth major quarterfinals appearance. Number one

513
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Speaker 7: he Yanic Center also headed to the quarter finals after

514
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Speaker 7: defeating fourteen seed American Ben Shelton in straight sets. Center

515
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Speaker 7: will face five seeds to no Medvedev. On the women's

516
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Speaker 7: side of things, Twelve seed American Mattie and Keys had

517
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Speaker 7: to retire in the third set of her fourth round

518
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Speaker 7: match due to a leg injury. Nineteen seed American Emm

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 7: Navarro upset two seed Cocoa Golf in straight sets to

520
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Speaker 7: advance to her first Grand Slam quarter final. In Formula one,

521
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Speaker 7: Lewis Hamilton won the British Grand Prix for the ninth time.

522
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 7: He beat Max for Steppid by one point four seconds.

523
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Speaker 7: Three times gold medalist Kevin Durant sideline for the start

524
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Speaker 7: of Team USA's training camp due to a strained calf.

525
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Speaker 7: Per seam Saroniam Wnba the Son beat the Dream eighty.

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Speaker 5: To sixty seven.

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Speaker 7: Connecticut tied with the Liberty for the best record in

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Speaker 7: the W at seventeen and four. Aces beat the Dallas

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Speaker 7: Wings one O four to eighty five. In baseball, the

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Speaker 7: Braves hit four homers, shut out the Phillies six to nothing,

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Speaker 7: Tigers five to one, went over the Reds. Guardians came

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Speaker 7: back I'm sorry Guardians where they come from behind win

533
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Speaker 7: against the Giants five to four. Jake Berger had a

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Speaker 7: walk off three run home run as the Marlins beat

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Speaker 7: the White Sox seven to four. Cardinals outscore the Nationals

536
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Speaker 7: eight to three. Francisco Lindor had two rbi as the

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Speaker 7: Mets one three to two.

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Speaker 5: Baseball game is still going on right now.

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Speaker 7: The Milwaukee Brewers and the Dodgers Brewers with a four

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Speaker 7: to nothing lead in the fifth inning, Baltimore and Oakland

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Speaker 7: with the Orioles with a five nothing lead in the

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Speaker 7: sixth Arizona and San Diego Todd one apiece in the

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Speaker 7: sixth inning, and Seattle and Toronto the Mariners with a

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Speaker 7: four to one lead in the fifth inning.

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Speaker 5: Jared and Brian back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Martin. It is Fox Sports Radio here. Jared Smith,

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Speaker 2: Brian know with you. This is the thing that I love.

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Speaker 5: Jared.

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Speaker 3: It's just a random observation.

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Speaker 2: I've seen this play out many times in baseball this season,

551
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: where blocking home plate, you know how that's the big

552
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: rule right now. The rule is if the catcher doesn't

553
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: have the ball, he's supposed to allow a lane to

554
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: home plate, Like you can't block home plate without the ball.

555
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: And so you'll see this.

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Speaker 2: I saw it actually randomly during the Giants Guardians game

557
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Speaker 2: today where the base runner was well out and they

558
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: challenged it. They're like, hopefully it's a scratch off lottery ticket,

559
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: and they'll say the catcher was blocking the plate and

560
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Speaker 2: will be safe, and they didn't.

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Speaker 3: They've done a good job.

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Speaker 2: I think major League Baseball where if the throw beats

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Speaker 2: the runner by like five steps, yeah, they're not gonna

564
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: give you the Well, technically he was blocking, which I

565
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Speaker 2: Therefore he's say, yeah, I'm glad that they're not misapplying

566
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Speaker 2: this because if you're well out, I don't care that

567
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: the catcher didn't provide a lane. And largely that's the

568
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: way it has been ruled this year, and I'm glad

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, because what are you blocking air? Like,

571
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Speaker 3: what are you blocking from the plate. The guys, it's

572
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: almost like the scene in Austin Powers when you know

573
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Speaker 3: the thing was gonna run him over and he's like

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Speaker 3: no stop. He's like really far away and he's like,

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Speaker 3: no stop. I have no I have no qualms about

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Speaker 3: the rule being put employees. Remember it was the buster

577
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Speaker 3: or posy rule. Sure, get what year it was. I

578
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: want to say it was around a decade ago, it

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Speaker 3: might be even more.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how it gets like that was fifteen year

581
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Speaker 2: what really unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Man, we're getting ol'brien. But you look at what baseball

583
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: has become now, and it has been I don't want

584
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: to say modernized, but I think some of the squeaky

585
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: wheels have been greased. Like remember when everyone was up

586
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: in arms about the pitch clock, and now it's the

587
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Speaker 3: best thing that ever happened. These games are flying by,

588
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: and I think the increased stolen base rules, you know

589
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: that are kind of favoring guys being able to steal

590
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Speaker 3: more bases, taking away the shift, like, I think all

591
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: of these little tweaks replay all of these little tweaks.

592
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: Now you add them up over time, and I think

593
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Speaker 3: the game is much more efficient. The only thing that

594
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Speaker 3: really grinds my gears sometimes is the way that they

595
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Speaker 3: call balls and strikes, because it seems to be different

596
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: for every umpire in every stadium, depending on what team

597
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Speaker 3: you're playing, and depending what day of the week, if

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Speaker 3: the ump maybe has dinner reservation, Like that's the one

599
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: thing I'd like to see automated. I think we're getting there,

600
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: that's the next step. But for the most part, I

601
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Speaker 3: think replay is a net positive. Like some people were

602
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Speaker 3: worried it was gonna slow things down in the system,

603
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Speaker 3: Like everything that they've done I think has worked out

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Speaker 3: in the favor of making the game better and more watchable.

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00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the Buster Posey injury was in

606
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: May of twenty eleven. Oh my goodness, so we're over

607
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: thirteen years ago, and that's the thing. Hey, man, I

608
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: get it. He got I mean it was his it

609
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: was his ankle slash. It was a lower body injury,

610
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: and it was bad. He got rolled over pretty bad.

611
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: But I think we get it.

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Speaker 2: I used to love the collisions at home plate, but

613
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Speaker 2: looking back at it, it's pretty unfair for the catcher.

614
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: They're in some very vulnerable positions. Even the base runner too.

615
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: You know, it could just lead to injury. We get it.

616
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Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't even allow you to do that in football,

617
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Speaker 2: to have a running start at a guy who export yeah,

618
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: like quote unquote defenseless, not seeing the hit coming.

619
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Speaker 3: Like that's what happened with catchers many times.

620
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Speaker 2: So I get that you're not going to have collisions

621
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Speaker 2: at home plate, but the byproduct of that is you're

622
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: not allowed to block home plate unless you have the ball.

623
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Speaker 2: And I'm just glad that that rule hasn't been misapplied

624
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: where if the throw beats you by ten feet and

625
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: they're like, well, technically he was blocking the plate with

626
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: the ball, that generally has not been rewarded.

627
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: So that's what I love. Foolish. That would be really foolish,

628
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Speaker 3: and I think that would be a reason for you

629
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Speaker 3: to be upset if it was misapplied like that. And

630
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: we'd put it back in right, this is the positive

631
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: no category and we try that story back into the

632
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: negative side there that that side has plenty of fodder.

633
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: I like when things are in the positive territory.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I'm just thinking about getting a sound effect.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if kind of like a ding like

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Speaker 2: that's one for positive no, Yes, the ding of positive

637
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: thing right there. Yes, that's good. We have the I'm

638
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: sure we have the negative one over here. I could

639
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: get a buzzer for sure. Yeah.

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00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I think pretty hard during football season.

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Speaker 2: You know, every now and then it has to be said,

642
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Speaker 2: you know, there is something that is critical in nature.

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Speaker 3: It's us, you know, that's the way it goes. Every

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Speaker 3: now and then you know, oh yeah, that would be

645
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Speaker 3: the negative buzzer, the positive or what's the Mario?

646
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Speaker 2: Now, you wouldn't understand that one, right, like you just did.

647
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: I just get an extra life. You know, it's just

648
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: got to be a simple thing.

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Speaker 3: I think. All right, come it up next.

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Speaker 2: It's a blend of good news and bad news at

651
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Speaker 2: the same time. We'll lay it out for you. He's

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith. I'm Brian Now. Hang with us right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm

654
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Speaker 2: Brian Now. He's Jared Smith. Relyve from the Tireck dot

655
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Com studios here. So this is both good news and

656
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Speaker 2: bad news at the same time. So the good news

657
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Speaker 2: is that Yannis Detakumbo he has qualified for his first Olympic.

658
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: That's right, Team Grease, they are good to go. They

659
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Speaker 2: have qualified for the Paris Games. In the Olympics. Yanna

660
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: scored twenty three points to lead Greece over Croatia, and

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Speaker 2: so Team Grease, pack your bags baby, going to France,

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00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The bad news would be for the Milwaukee Bucks, who

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Speaker 2: I would imagine are like yay, awesome Janis who didn't

666
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Speaker 2: play a playoff game due to injury. He's logging more

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Speaker 2: minutes for Team Grease in Paris.

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Speaker 3: This can't be awesome news for the Bucks. But it's

669
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Speaker 3: what are you gonna do about it? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: You can't say, Janis, you didn't play in the playoffs. Man,

671
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Speaker 2: forget about this dream of yours to lead Greece to

672
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Speaker 2: the Olympics. You know you can't do that when you

673
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Speaker 2: have so much player empowerment these days.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

675
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Speaker 2: You can't royally tick Janis off to the point where

676
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Speaker 2: he's starting to pack his bags away from Milwaukee and

677
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna leave on the first thing, smoking as soon

678
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Speaker 2: as he can.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because Andrew Wiggins kind of got the

680
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: opposite treatment where he did, and and it's and I

681
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: love Andrew Wiggins. He ain't honest, that's exactly right, right,

682
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: And it's just I think if you were gonna draw

683
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: a line with the upper echelon tier players, I think

684
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: he obviously is is yiannest Is obviously on on on

685
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: the north side of that, and I would say Wiggins

686
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: is on the south side of that of that line.

687
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: But it also kind of paints a little bit of

688
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 3: a different picture of what the NBA is. The NBA

689
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Speaker 3: is becoming of becoming. It is a very international league,

690
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: and obviously Team USA has the most, uh, you know,

691
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: the biggest bucket from which to choose players from in

692
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Speaker 3: the NBA. But you go watch these Olympics, I mean,

693
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna see a lot of guys you know, and

694
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: you'll see a lot that you don't of course, because

695
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, you can't fill out all these rosters with

696
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Speaker 3: with NBA talent, and there's just not that many. But

697
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: Yiannis was one, right, I know, Luca playing for Slovenia

698
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: is another. There's a couple of others, you know, France

699
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: being a big one with the Wemby and Gobar duo,

700
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: which is a very intriguing duo to watch. But it

701
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: just it kind of speaks to what the NBA is

702
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: now where Yanni's kind of First of all, it's always

703
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: been a player power league. First, the stars have the power.

704
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Speaker 3: And Yanni's could have taken the other approach, and he

705
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: could have said, listen, I love I love my country,

706
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Speaker 3: but we didn't really play that well in the playoffs

707
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Speaker 3: last year, and I'd rather take the time off and focus.

708
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: But I think these guys err on the side of

709
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 3: country first. That's where especially in some of these sports

710
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: that do have Olympics. I don't fault Giannis for doing it,

711
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: but definitely the selfish country first, not team first mentality.

712
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Speaker 2: It is interesting and funny at the same time where

713
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: you hear so much about lewd management in the NBA,

714
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: where it's like, hey, we're just trying to maximize longevity,

715
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, minimize injury, so forth and so on. But

716
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: the Olympics roll around, and if a player really wants

717
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: to be there, all of a sudden, all that talk

718
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: about load management, I don't hear a word of it,

719
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, that's a lot of

720
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: mileage on your legs, and depending on the player and

721
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: if he's been injured recently like Giannis has. I haven't

722
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Speaker 2: heard anything about managing minutes or maybe not qualifying doing

723
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Speaker 2: the tournament to get to the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard any of that.

725
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: So it's just funny that during the heart of the

726
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: NBA season, when you are making millions and millions of dollars,

727
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: there are a lot of players that will take a

728
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: lot of nights off. But if they're invested and they

729
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: want to be on their Olympic team, they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: there and I don't hear one word about load management.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm not saying that this is why you hear

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: about load management more during the regular season, but it's

733
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: a theory. The more you hear about load management, the

734
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: bigger excuse these agents and the players Union has to

735
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: up the price to you know, come back to the

736
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: table and say we need more in the Olympics. That's

737
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. So it's just these guys want to play.

738
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Speaker 3: Whereas in the NBA everything is structured. This guy's on

739
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: this tier, he makes this much money, he's eligible for

740
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Speaker 3: this maximum deal, et cetera, et cetera. And the agents

741
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: in the front offices and all the people that are

742
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: behind the scenes in the corporate red tape, they will

743
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: make sure that there's ways that you can put the

744
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: lever up and bring the lever down. Load management is

745
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: a low hanging fruit for our guys playing too much.

746
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: He needs to get paid more. Or the players are

747
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: playing too much. We need to give them a bigger

748
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: piece of the pie. Like it's just it. It's the rhetoric,

749
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: it's the propaganda. Like load management at its core is

750
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: very recent. It is a recent phenomenon. What last decade

751
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: or so. This didn't exist in the eighties and nineties.

752
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: You think Charles Oakley cared about management. So it just it.

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00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: It's become a thing because there's more money involved now

754
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: and the more they play, the more they feel they

755
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: should get paid, and the owners take a big chunk.

756
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: And that's what the players Union exists for for them to,

757
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: you know, take what's rightfully theirs.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: On a side note, Luka Doncic not gonna be in

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00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: the Olympics. No, Slovenia did not qualify. They actually got

761
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: smacked by Jannis's grease team by Oh that was.

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Speaker 3: A qualifying game. I remember they were playing. I didn't

763
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: know if that was to get to the epicure of

764
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: they were already in.

765
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Speaker 2: They lost by twenty eight points. So no Slovenia. So

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Speaker 2: I can imagine the Dallas Mavericks like, ah, Luca, that's man, that's.

767
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: Yeah's not gonna be there.

768
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 2: And meanwhile there's Tiger Woods fist pump like all right, yeah, right,

769
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: didn't make it. Something else that was funny basketball wise,

770
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Speaker 2: Paul George He's gonna be wearing the number eight for

771
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: the Sixers. Interesting and he's wrapping the number because of

772
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: his idol, Kobe Bryant. So he's gonna wear number eight

773
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. It's really cool. He was gonna announce this

774
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: on his podcast, but the Sixers leaked the news beforehand.

775
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bothed like one of these yeah, photoshopped

776
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: pictures and it was welcome to Philadelphia, Paul George in

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Speaker 2: his number eight uniform.

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Speaker 3: So they leaked it. PR guys getting fired, marketing guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: sea ooopsie.

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Speaker 2: All right, come it up. Next, we turn our attention

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Speaker 2: to ball. NFL futures. Go lord, we'll compare notes. We're

782
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Speaker 2: going back to the NFL futures here in just a minute.

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Speaker 2: tire buying should be. Okay, Jared, So we are not

788
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Speaker 2: that far away from the NFL season. What was the

789
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: note you said about five weeks from the Hall of

790
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: Fame game?

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00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: Is well, the Hall of Fame games the week before.

792
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: I think we're four weeks from the Hall of Fame

793
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: game or five Sundays from the first preseason weekend. Okay,

794
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: the full weekend, right, it's that first. It's actually technically

795
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: the second weekend in August. I think it's the ninth, tenth, eleventh,

796
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: somewhere in that range.

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00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: So five weeks, yeah, and then we only have like

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Speaker 2: three full weekends of preseason games.

799
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Yes, right, so for five weeks.

800
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: Away from that, then we only have three weeks or

801
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: only eight weeks roughly.

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00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: I think sixty days. Yeah, I think yesterday was sixty one.

803
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, two months makes sense, right, it's not bad

804
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: all week of September. Right, we're in first week all July.

805
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: Two months.

806
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: We're inching closer. You know, you gotta get out the binoculars,

807
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: and you can see land land.

808
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: See exactly. We could see land, but we're not If

809
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: we if we were pushed overboard, we'd still be drowning

810
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: in the sea of Nurfy.

811
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we're still there were there were not

812
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: in swimming distance, no.

813
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah.

814
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're gonna look at the division odds for

815
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL season, right, and so how

816
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: about we started off in style with the AFC East.

817
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your Jets, my Dolphins of course in the mix.

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00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: It's funny.

819
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: I just looked all this up on BETMGM.

820
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: A lot of this.

821
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Speaker 2: If you're not a better it's fine, you don't have

822
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: to be. It's just for context, honey. Even if you're

823
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: not a betting I would be very interested in where

824
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: the lines are set, right, Like, what do the sports books,

825
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: what are they kind of suggesting or sort of forecasting.

826
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Speaker 2: So if you hear any of these plus numbers, if

827
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Speaker 2: you wagered one hundred dollars, the plus number is the

828
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Speaker 2: number you would win. So, for instance, the bills are

829
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Speaker 2: plus one sixty five. If you wagered one hundred dollars,

830
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: you would win one hundred and sixty five dollars. And that's,

831
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: of course, including getting your original one hundred dollars back,

832
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: you would profit one sixty five. So when you hear

833
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: a plus, that's what it means. You don't have to

834
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: bet one hundred bucks. You could bet ten dollars. You

835
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: just win, you know, sixteen dollars and fifty cents for

836
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: every ten dollars you bet.

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Speaker 3: That's all it means.

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00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, as the Brewers hit another home run, those

839
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: bumps scoring home, Oh, Mike today when I needed them

840
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: to score runs yesterday.

841
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: But Blake Perkins, I digress.

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00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay, if we look at the AFC East Bills, they

843
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: have the best odds plus one sixty five, followed by

844
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Speaker 2: the Jets plus nine one ninety, Dolphins plus two hundred.

845
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Speaker 2: The Patriots are twenty five to one. Okay, yeah, don't

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00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: bet the Patriots, guys. So it's really the Bills, Jets,

847
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: and Dolphins are close to two to one. I close

848
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: in the vicinity two to one, Patriots not even close.

849
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: What do you think when you're starting Bills, Jets, Dolphins?

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00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: How do you break it down?

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00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I do when I look at

852
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: division odds and you nailed it. Whether you're a better

853
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: or you're just a fan, what these odds should do?

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00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: And even if you have no interest in betting the

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00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: NFL at all, you think betting is silly. I'd like

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00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: to have a separate conversation with you, but let's just

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00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: say you're of that belief. Listen to Saturday Show for

858
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: more on that. To me, what the odds do is

859
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: their expectation setters, bar setters. Where do I set the bar?

860
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: We just did it on the Patriots, it's at the

861
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 3: bottom of the barrel. You almost can't see it. It's

862
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: literally at the bottom, whereas the Bills, Dolphins, and Jets

863
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: are at the top. But there's not a lot of

864
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: separation there, and in fact, there's less separation than last year,

865
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: and that's a good place to start to. I like

866
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: to look at year over year and not to say

867
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take anything from last year's numbers and apply

868
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: them to this year, but I like to see how

869
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: the market has shifted in a year because our brains

870
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: have viewed these teams very differently in the last year.

871
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: For example, the Bills, I would say, are a notch

872
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: below where we viewed them last year. Right, they lose

873
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, they lose Gabe Davis, they can cotinue to

874
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: struggle in the playoffs, they can't win at home. They

875
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: they are still a contender, but they're not as lofty

876
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: of a contender. Well, last year they were a shorter

877
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: favor to win the AFC East. They were plus one

878
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: thirty five in this market, and now they're plus one seventy.

879
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: So again it's kind of telling you that the market

880
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: expectation on Buffalo's a little lower, it's a little bit

881
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: higher on Miami. That's the team that has moved up

882
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: from last year's number. They were three to one last year.

883
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: Now they're basically two to one plus one seventy five

884
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. So the Jets are kind of

885
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: staying in that same range where they're expected to be

886
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: a contender. It's the Bills and the Dolphins that have

887
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: kind of fluctuated a little bit, and I think that's fair.

888
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: I think it all boils down to how healthy Aaron

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: Rodgers is. If he's healthy, the Jets are probably live

890
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: to win the division. If he's not healthy, they're gonna

891
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: look more like the Patriots. Now, they won't look as

892
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: bad as last year because the Rod Taylor's the backup.

893
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: But the fact that the Jets are the third team

894
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: on this odds board and I think they've got the

895
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: personnel to be the number one team tells me there

896
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: at least. And no one's talking about him this year.

897
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: Last year, everyone was talking about him hard knocks the

898
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: whole nine yards. This year, it's been pretty quiet. Aaron Rodgers,

899
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: and I don't know where he is doing something. Don't

900
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: care show up when the game start, please just don't

901
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: get hurt the other stuff. How do you feel about

902
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: to them, right, because that that's kind of where the

903
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: movement is in this market.

904
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what stands out is I think, let's just

905
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: start with two of these teams and then we'll get

906
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: to to what. But I want to start with the

907
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: Bills and the Jets. I think the Bills are overvalued

908
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: for them to have the best odds to win the

909
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: division with as much talent as they lost.

910
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: I just you have Khalil Shakir.

911
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: He's the only wide receiver on the roster right now

912
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: that has caught a pass from Josh Allen that he's

913
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: the only guy right like, So, is Kean Coleman going

914
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: to hit the ground running as a rookie wide receiver? Maybe,

915
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 2: but he's got some big shoes to fill with Fawn

916
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: Diggs right there as a rookie To come close to

917
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: even the same production that Diggs had last season and

918
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: he tailed off down the stretch massively, It's still gonna

919
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: be a tough task for Keon Coleman to do that

920
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: as a rookie. So I think the Bills are overvalued

921
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: having the best odds to win the division. I think

922
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: the Jets are undervalued, not necessarily their betting number, but

923
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: the feel of the Jets. Like you just said, Jared,

924
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: everybody was talking about the Jets last year. They just

925
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: got Aaron Rodgers. He's got a real defense man. Kane

926
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: Green is back, baby, he lasted four plays. You don't

927
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: hear anything about them this offseason. But the same holds true.

928
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers doesn't use like sheer Lamar Jackson athletic ability

929
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: to be special. He will just dissect you as a

930
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: great pocket passer who will have like traces.

931
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: Of athleticism here and there, you know what I mean.

932
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: But yep, he's more so a mobile ish pocket quarterback.

933
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: He can still dice you up right now, even after

934
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: the Achilles injury. So I think the Jets it just

935
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of people jumped off the bandwagon

936
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: because they were all about him last season and Rogers

937
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: got hurt.

938
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why that would change.

939
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 2: You still have Rogers with some good offensive pieces around him,

940
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: with a real defense. I think the Jets are absolutely

941
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: live to win this division.

942
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And I think you fixed

943
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: the holes up front right. You drafted Fishano, my Penn

944
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: State guy in the first round, top fifteen pick, basically

945
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: a lottery pick in the NFL. And you also signed

946
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 3: a couple of em I we'll call a middling free agents,

947
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: but a couple I think Smith around Smith that has

948
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: had a good career, just you know, dealing with injuries.

949
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: You know, guys that have Wartz, but guys that can

950
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: help on the offensive line. And that's the key. They

951
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: didn't go for the brock Bowers, even though it would

952
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: have been cool to see brock Bowers in New York.

953
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: You know, they kind of stole a pick from the Vikings,

954
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: moved back, took Fashanu, went went line like I have

955
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: no problems with that. You can never go wrong, especially

956
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 3: when you have a veteran quarterback drafting an offensive line

957
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: offensive lineman in the top fifteen. To your point about Buffalo,

958
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: here are the numbers on Diggs and Davis uh one,

959
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: two receptions, nineteen and twenty nine yards last year for Buffalo.

960
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: That's what the Bills will have to replace. Fifteen of

961
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: their twenty nine receiving touchdowns out the door Diggs and

962
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: Davis last year. So the only other receivers on the

963
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: depth chart you mentioned Shakir Curtis, Samuel Marquez Valdez, Scanton,

964
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: kJ Hamler, Chase Claypool. You got two thousand yards between

965
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: those five guys. It doesn't sound like it, don't. I

966
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: don't know. Defensively, it's all on McDermott. Now he's taken

967
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: over the full capacity. How does a head coach handle that?

968
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 3: This is now his second year? Right? Fraser quit last

969
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: year after they basically threw the book at him and

970
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: they blamed him for everything. He retired right after the

971
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: season after that disaster in the playoffs last year, not

972
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: the previous season, but two seasons ago. Then last season

973
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: they were good, not great. Defensively, they definitely took I

974
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: don't want to say a step back, but they definitely

975
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: didn't take a step forward. And I just I think personnel.

976
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: Why is there not as deep of a roster as

977
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: they've been in years past? Here is a fun way

978
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: you want enough for This is for the gamblers out there.

979
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: You want to play the Jets in a fun, creative way.

980
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: Sure you can bet two to one on them to

981
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: win a division. That's okay, bet one hundred bucks win

982
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: two hundred, not bat How about this? Try this on

983
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 3: for sizebino. How about the Jets to be the last

984
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: remaining undefeated team at fourteen to one.

985
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: The Jets to be the last one.

986
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: And here's why that bets interesting to me, because the

987
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: favorite in that market, besides the Lions, the other favorite

988
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 3: in that market is the Niners. And that's who the

989
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: Jets play week one. If they can win, and you're

990
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: probably gonna get plus two hundred on the Jets money

991
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: line in that Week one game. If you win that game,

992
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: look at the rest of the Jets schedule.

993
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: I know you're looking Titans, Patriots, Broncos, Vikings.

994
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: Six and zero. Oh, and the Lions have an easy schedule.

995
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 3: But the reason why I love this bet is because

996
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: you're eliminating the other favorite, San Francisco in Week one.

997
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: If you win and you're getting way more than plus

998
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: two hundred, you could just bet the Jets moneyline week one.

999
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's we're gonna be around two to one.

1000
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: Let's go for the big cheese. Let's go fourteen to

1001
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: one here, last undefeated team.

1002
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, but I don't love it because

1003
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard to win, right,

1004
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: But I like the potential fourteen to win, to pay

1005
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: out better than two to one, right, like cook, it's

1006
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: real soft. Four weeks after that first game for the

1007
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: Jets against the Niners.

1008
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: So I like the thinking. I like that we're going on.

1009
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: This is what the summer's for a right, we just

1010
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: throw stuff against the wall. We get the schedule.

1011
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: How about this real fast with the Fins. You know

1012
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: a little love for hashtag fins up over here?

1013
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: All right? Two things to consider.

1014
00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: One, I think because the playoff loss was so disappointing

1015
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins against the Chiefs, it was like the

1016
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: Ice Bowl, Yeah, twenty twenty four style, but Tua had

1017
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: a hard time completing screen passes.

1018
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 3: It was just it was ugly. It was really ugly.

1019
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: And I think there might be a tendency to be

1020
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: even more skeptical of the Dolphins because of that. But

1021
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: that's where you might see some value here, Jared, where

1022
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: it's still a lethal offense, don't I don't see what's changed.

1023
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: The biggest question marks probably to his health. Can he

1024
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: stay healthy for an entire season again? But you still

1025
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: have Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, you get Odell Beckham Junior

1026
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: as a decent number three option. You get John new Smith,

1027
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: who's a good receiving tight end. You got the running

1028
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: backs left and right. They drafted Jalen Wright, who's a

1029
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: speed demon, like all kinds of fast guys everywhere. So

1030
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: you might see a little bit of value with the Dolphins,

1031
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: just because the vibe isn't there. You get them two

1032
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: to one to win the division. I could see it happening.

1033
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't, I'll be honest with you, Jared, because the Trenches.

1034
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't love their offensive line. Tron Armstead has a

1035
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: hard time staying healthy. The defensive line is a bunch

1036
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: of like one year guys. They got off the scrap

1037
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: heap mostly right. You picked up Kalayis Campbell, who's I

1038
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: think fifty seven years old now, yeah, but I still

1039
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: love the guy. And then you got your pass rushers,

1040
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips Bradley Chubb, both coming off of major injuries.

1041
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: That's a lot right there. I don't love the Dolphins

1042
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: to win the division.

1043
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: I don't love it either. I think if I was

1044
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 3: gonna bet something on the Dolphins, i'd want high upside

1045
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 3: because I think it's either one of two things to

1046
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: a stace it's like best. I don't think there's any

1047
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 3: in between with the Dolphins this year. They seem to

1048
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: be a boom or bus kind of team. It feels

1049
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: like to a healthy Anthony Weaver settles in as the

1050
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. We all heard they hated Fangio, now they

1051
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: love Weaver. Hopefully you guys stay healthy. On the defensive side.

1052
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: You mentioned Phillips and Chubb. I think they're will vastly

1053
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: correlate to how successful the Dolphins defense is. I don't

1054
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: hate the offensive line. If Armstead's healthy, You've got Jackson

1055
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: on the other side, I like win it left guard.

1056
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: I think it's all about can you get hot and

1057
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 3: stay hot? Right? The Dolphins remind me of the Warriors

1058
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 3: the Splash Brothers. When they're cooking on offense, there ain't

1059
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: much you could do. I don't care. Even if the

1060
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 3: defense is average, it's really tough to defend. And if

1061
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: they can get in that mode, and we've seen it too,

1062
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: I had like an eight week stretch last year. You

1063
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: look like the MVP of the league. Yeah, that's where

1064
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: the Dolphins need. Winning the division is not good enough.

1065
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: They need to be the number one seed. Why because

1066
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: of what you just said the Ice bol avoid the

1067
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: Ice Bowl. That's a long shot bet on the Dolphins.

1068
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: I'd be interested in not for them to win the

1069
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, to win the AFC, because they ain't winning

1070
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: the AFC unless they're the number one seed and they

1071
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: don't have to go to Arrowhead in December January. Like,

1072
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: that's the you got, I will avoid that. So you

1073
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: want to look for that upside, that explosive profit with

1074
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: a team that I think has the volatility right, really

1075
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: high ceiling, very low floor. Well, that's why you go

1076
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: for the long shot there. So Dolphins two to one

1077
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: or whatever it is right around that range safe. I

1078
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: think the explosive upside pick with the Dolphins is for

1079
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: them to be the number one seed because they're going

1080
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: for you know, they need that one seat after what

1081
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: happened in KC last year.

1082
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: You're going for it here with the long shot bets.

1083
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: I like it real fast. This is what's funny to me.

1084
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was on the field for what four plays

1085
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: last season? Tua played all seventeen games in the regular season.

1086
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: Which quarterback do you have more injury concerns about this season?

1087
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: That's impossible to answer.

1088
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: Like, right, I still think it's too a hop of

1089
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: mind for both.

1090
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: I think the Jets did here. I'll leave it at

1091
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: this because I always tell people it's impossible to injuries impossible,

1092
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: like the way Aaron Rodgers got hurt last year was

1093
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: so fluky it was possible to predict anything. In that regard.

1094
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: I give the Jets more credit because they addressed the

1095
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: issue more in the offseason by signing too offensive linemen

1096
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: and drafting one with their first pick. The Dolphins did

1097
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: not do that, So I think both guys have massive

1098
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: injury concerns. I think the Dolphins didn't do as much

1099
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: to address the old line in the offseason as Jets did,

1100
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: and that's why I would go Jets there. No, Yeah,

1101
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 3: I think that.

1102
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: Look, man, it's still that image in my head with

1103
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: Tua in the head in the year. That is just

1104
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: such a different deal. That puts the concern factor a

1105
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: couple of notches higher in my mind. And I know,

1106
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 2: I know Aaron Rodgers is older. You know, he's gonna

1107
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: turn forty two during the season.

1108
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna be.

1109
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Forty hope as a thirty eight year old. There you

1110
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: go in December, that's what happens. But I still think

1111
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: that and two has done a much better job of

1112
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: getting rid of the football that's made the biggest difference

1113
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: with him staying healthy. So hopefully it happens again, but

1114
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: I would still say until I see it another season.

1115
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, how many full seasons does he have under

1116
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: his belt where he stayed completely well healthy enough to

1117
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: get back on the field, right, Yeah, I think he's

1118
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: got many seasons under his belt, so I actually do

1119
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: have more concerns about TUA.

1120
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I would agree you do.

1121
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: That's good, all right, we got more ball to discuss

1122
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: here coming up next. Does this guy have the least

1123
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: to work with in the entire league?

1124
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: He's Jared Smith.

1125
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm Brian, now keep it locked right here on Fox

1126
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1127
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: You know who else is ready to roll? Our guy?

1128
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: Martin Weiss.

1129
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: You know he is like a sidewinder middle reliever in

1130
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: the bullpen, just foaming at the mouth.

1131
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: Let me at him.

1132
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: Let me that's Martin Weiss. What's going on?

1133
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: Martin man?

1134
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 5: You guys hit it right on the head with the music.

1135
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 7: Though, for whatever reason, even the training camp hard knocks

1136
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 7: when they start playing it, it sounds like.

1137
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: It's the most important thing in the world. Yeah, it's amazing.

1138
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball All Star lineups were announced thirty two

1139
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 7: first time All Stars. We'll be down there in Arlington

1140
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 7: July sixteenth. Here's some of them. Kansas City Royal shortstop

1141
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 7: Bobby with Junior, Cincinnati read shortstop Elie de la Cruz Padres,

1142
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: rookie outfielder Jackson Merrill, A's closer Mason Miller, Orioles shortstop

1143
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 7: Gunner Henderson, and Pittsburgh Pirates rookie right hander Paul Skeins

1144
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 7: is a candidate to start on the mound for the

1145
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 7: National League. The Phillies led all teams with seven All Stars, Dodgers, Padres,

1146
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 7: and Guardians all got five. In baseball games going on

1147
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 7: right now, the Brewers have a seven to two lead

1148
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 7: over the Dodgers in the eighth inning. Orioles lead the

1149
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: A's six to three in the ninth, Arizona eight to

1150
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 7: one over San Diego in the ninth inning. Toronto and

1151
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 7: Seattle all tied up for a piece in the eighth.

1152
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 7: Earlier today, the Braves, they had four home run shut

1153
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 7: the Phillies out six to nothing. Tigers had a five

1154
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 7: to one win over the Reds Guardians, where they come

1155
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 7: from behind win over the Giants five to four. Marlins

1156
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 7: beat the White Sox seven to four on a Jake

1157
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 7: Berger walk off three run homer. Cardinals outscored the Nationals

1158
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 7: eight to three, and Francisco Lindor had a two RBI

1159
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 7: single gave the Mets a three to win over the

1160
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 7: Pirates in the WNBA.

1161
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 5: Earlier today, the Sun beat the Dream eighty.

1162
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 7: To sixty seven, Connecticut time for the best record in

1163
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 7: the w With the New York Liberty seventeen and four

1164
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 7: Aces beat the Wings one to four to eighty five,

1165
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 7: with Asia Wilson becoming the leading scorer, are the highest

1166
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 7: scorer for the franchise history. Today middle of the second quarter,

1167
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 7: six seventeen left the Sky and the Storm Chicago with.

1168
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: A twenty nine to twenty three lead.

1169
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 7: In tennis, men's third seed Carlos Alcarez at Wimbledon won

1170
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 7: his fourth round match in four sets. He will go

1171
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 7: to his ninth major quarterfinals appearance. Janick Center, the one seed,

1172
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 7: was headed to the quarterfinals as well after beating fourteen

1173
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 7: seed American Ben Shelton in straight sets. Center will face

1174
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 7: number five seed to Noel Medvedev in a quarter five finals.

1175
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 7: On the women's side, twelve seed American Madison Keys had

1176
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 7: to retire in the third set of her fourth round

1177
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 7: match due to a leg injury, and nineteen seed American

1178
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 7: Emma Navarro upset two seed Cocoa Golf in straight sets

1179
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 7: to advance to her first Grand Slam quarterfinal. In Formula one,

1180
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 7: Lewis Hamilton has just won the British Grand Prix for

1181
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 7: the ninth time, beating Max Verstappen by one point four

1182
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 7: seconds and per Sham Sharania. Three time gold medalist Kevin

1183
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,959
Speaker 7: Durant sidelined for the start of Team USA training camp

1184
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 7: due to a strained calf.

1185
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 5: Brian and Jared back to you guys.

1186
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Martin. It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jared Smith.

1187
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm Brian. No so I mentioned this. Does this guy

1188
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: have the worst supporting cast in the entire league?

1189
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: Is it?

1190
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. Now we know Daniel Jones is

1191
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: not a difference maker. He's not this Studeley quarterback.

1192
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: We get that.

1193
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: But he doesn't have a Studley supporting cast either. And

1194
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: they did draft Molik Neighbors wide receiver out of LSU.

1195
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: He might be a really good player could be, but

1196
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: he's a rookie right now. And outside of Malik Neighbors,

1197
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: what do the Giants really have around Daniel Jones. It's

1198
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: gotta be one of, if not the worst supporting cast

1199
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: in all of football. And that was one of the

1200
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: themes on this first Hard Knocks episode, where they're like,

1201
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: we gotta give Daniel Jones a chance. We got to

1202
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: protect him, we got to give him some playmakers around him.

1203
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: We got to give him a fighting chance. And I'm

1204
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: not saying he's a difference maker, but if you flip

1205
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: flop Brock Purty and Daniel Jones, if you put Daniel

1206
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: Jones on the Niners and you put Brockberty on the Giants,

1207
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: both quarterbacks would look a lot different than they have looked.

1208
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not telling you Daniel Jones walks on water

1209
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: and I'm not telling you brock Purty.

1210
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: Is just a hack.

1211
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: But the supporting cast matters, and oftentimes we make it

1212
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: only about the quarterback.

1213
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I think the offensive line is the

1214
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 3: real big issue. We'll see what Shane Bowen does, who

1215
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of, I don't want to say kind of screwed

1216
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: the pooch, but it's an interesting situation. Now you go

1217
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: from a very conservative or you go from a very

1218
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: aggressive defensive coordinator and wink to now, who's someone who's

1219
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: a little bit more conservative. So we'll see how that

1220
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: transition goes on the offensive side. I mean, what else

1221
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 3: can you say? I mean, this is this has been

1222
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: the issue for the last three seasons. Remember when they

1223
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: won the postseason game, it was smoking mirrors. They beat

1224
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 3: the Vikings in that game on the road, and that,

1225
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 3: you know, kind of helped Daniel Jones solidify some kind

1226
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 3: of confidence with this coaching staff. But you've got Drew

1227
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: Locke back there now, who's gotten some opportunities in the past,

1228
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 3: and I think if things really go south, they won't

1229
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: hesitate to at least put him in the game. I

1230
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: think it's it's it's obviously going to beat Jones for

1231
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: a significant period of time, and they hope that this,

1232
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: let's call it somewhat improved. I mean, they did add

1233
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 3: a top ten pick, but they didn't improve the offensive line. Yeah,

1234
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: and that's that's the lifeblood of any team. That's why

1235
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: the Jets decided to say no to the shiny toy

1236
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: in brock Bowers. They could have drafted a Dunes, They

1237
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: could have drafted a bunch of guys in these spots.

1238
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: They could have gone in a multitude of different directions

1239
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: if they felt like they needed to. But the Giants

1240
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: were the ones that pulled the trigger, not only on neighbors,

1241
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: but also bringing in Alan Robinson, who say what you want,

1242
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I just you know, not going to move

1243
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 3: the needle. Devin Singletary not gonna move the needle, especially

1244
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: when you're comparing a mis Saquon Barkley. So yeah, there's

1245
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 3: there's a lot left to be desired there.

1246
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I ran across this where it's just ranking

1247
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: the supporting cast the last five years, so each of

1248
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: the last five years, and then it has the total

1249
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: grade and the Giants ranked second to dead last. The

1250
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: Jets actually ranked dead last, and so it's the NFL

1251
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: ranks in supporting cast rating.

1252
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 3: That's what it's called.

1253
01:03:54,760 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: In terms of average team Pro Football focus, rush, receiving,

1254
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: pass blocking, run blocking grades, everything except passing. As far

1255
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: as the blocking grades go over the past five seasons.

1256
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: They're pretty they're pretty accurate. Like I use when we

1257
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 3: do the Saturday shows and we took a college football

1258
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: like most of my nerd stuff comes from Pro Football Focus. Yeah,

1259
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: really good.

1260
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is, look at these teams that

1261
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: rank near the bottom, which supporting cast would you prefer?

1262
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1263
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: Would you rather have the Giant supporting cast around the

1264
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: quarterback or the Jets supporting cast around the quarterback?

1265
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: Jet?

1266
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, it is it. Would you rather have the

1267
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: Giant supporting cast or Jacksonville's supporting cast?

1268
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: Well, jackson Will just lost one of their best players,

1269
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 3: but they brought in Gay Davis. I think Jacksonville it's easy.

1270
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville too, but it's not as much of

1271
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: a slam dunk as the Jets. I mean, you've got

1272
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: Garrett jil think are in that point now where there.

1273
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: Is no like. Super Bowl is the only like where

1274
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: the Jaguars. I'm not saying that about jackson.

1275
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, But Garrett Wilson is a really good

1276
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver. You got Bryce Hall. Tyler Conklin is an

1277
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: underrated tight end. I'm not saying he's, you know, top five, but.

1278
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: He's pretty good.

1279
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: He's overlooked. That's more than what the Giants have. Darren

1280
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Waller retired. You just don't have a like of a

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01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: lot around Daniel Jones Man and the other team that

1282
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: was ranked very lowly on this the Chargers supporting cast.

1283
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: They ranked twenty ninth last season. I don't know what

1284
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: all goes into that, if the injury bug goes into

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01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: it or not to be.

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01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: Eckler was her for a lot of the year. Yeah,

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01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: it's gotta be, and he was such a big part

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Speaker 3: of their offense.

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: But hey, man, heading into this season, they don't have

1290
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Speaker 2: a great supporting cast around Justin Herbert. It's gonna take

1291
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of time, I think for Jim Harbaugh

1292
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: to do damage again in the NFL.

1293
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: So it's not JJ McCarthy being asked to throw as

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01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: many times as you and I did in the second

1295
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: half of the game against Penn State on the road.

1296
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Speaker 3: And you don't think that's gonna be the vibe for

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01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: the Chargers offense this year.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Hey, if they could run

1299
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: it as effectively, yeah.

1300
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: Right right, but no, no, Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think that's gonna fly.

1302
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: There, but you know, yeah, if it if it would,

1303
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: if it could, it would, right like Harbaugh would absolutely

1304
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: ground and bound if that's what they are.

1305
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 3: I like their old line, Alton Slater. I mean that

1306
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 3: might be the best tackle duo in the league. Could

1307
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: be up there, could be. I mean, we don't know

1308
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: a lot about all. But he was, you know, harolded,

1309
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: highly pouted as one of the best prospects in the draft.

1310
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: And they're usually not wrong about those kids.

1311
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: Especially when you have Notre Dame bloodline going up exactly.

1312
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: They're not wrong about those those uh, those those big

1313
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: big boys from the Midwest very often. There you go,

1314
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: All right, we've come it up next.

1315
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: This was a great, great response to some unfortunate news.

1316
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: We'll get to that.

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01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith. I'm Brian No. Stay with us right

1318
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio.

1319
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith. I'm Brian No, coming to you live

1320
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: from the ti rack dot com studios. So this was

1321
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: kind of funny here, Jared. You know, Davis Berton's the

1322
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: Latvian Laser. Love that nickname. I'll stand before so g Yeah,

1323
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: he was playing for Team Latvia the other day while

1324
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: being released by the Charlotte Hornets.

1325
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: That's all.

1326
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, he was asked about this, like, hey man,

1327
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: what's uh, what's going on with this. Listen to his reaction.

1328
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: I love this reaction by Davis Burton's With two or.

1329
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: Three minutes in the game, it was announced that you

1330
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: were out by the Charlotte Hornets. What is your initial

1331
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: reaction that you're not gonna play there anymore?

1332
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 8: All, like I say is I really don't care right now,

1333
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 8: and my main focuses are right here with the jersey on.

1334
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 8: So you know, in a way, I'm really happy that

1335
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 8: this right now is the only jersey that I wear.

1336
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

1337
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: I really don't care right now. Charlotte who Hornets?

1338
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: Screw them? You know, That's basically what Davas was saying.

1339
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: It's a great reaction you've got to have, right Like

1340
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 3: I think as a professional athlete, you have to be

1341
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: so me against the world mentality because or everyone's coming

1342
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: for you. Your job is not safe even in your

1343
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: inside your own locker room. The backups are coming for

1344
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 3: your starting job. If you're a starter. If you're a backup,

1345
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: then the guys in the G League that are on

1346
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 3: the practice squad are coming for your job. If you're

1347
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: a head coat, like, it's a dog eat dog mentality,

1348
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 3: and you've got to have that dismissive. I only care

1349
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: about the present right now. Anything else is I'll worry.

1350
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: That's a tomorrow problem.

1351
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: You know what's funny to me is I'm just thinking

1352
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: about Olympic basketball, or at least the qualifying tournament. I

1353
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: hate not knowing anything about like basketball, you know, like

1354
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: the rules, No, just the Olympic teams, the Olympic qualifying teams,

1355
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: and like I know Team USA and I can project

1356
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: a couple of things. But if I'm looking at Latvia,

1357
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: no on, like they beat Cameroon yesterday by thirteen points.

1358
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: That's when Davis Bretons gave that interview right answer where

1359
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I really don't care right now

1360
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: about getting released. And then Latvia turned around and lost

1361
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: to Brazil today by twenty five points. Like it doesn't

1362
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: bother me that I don't know anything about a multitude

1363
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: of things, right Like I don't care, but I care

1364
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: about sports. I care about basketball, and to not know

1365
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: anything about most of these Olympic teams. We started talking

1366
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: about the points spreads yesterday. It just throw out a

1367
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 2: couple of nations where it's like, all right, Lebanon and

1368
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: the Bahamas. What do you think the betting line is,

1369
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, I have zero idea. That's how I

1370
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: feel about these teams. I hate not knowing anything.

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 3: You'll know, oh, because knowing what I know about you,

1372
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 3: by the end of the Olympics, you're gonna know a

1373
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: lot more than the beginning. Well, I'm just breaking it down.

1374
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: Watching these games, betting on these games, you're gonna know

1375
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: who the eighth guy off the bench is for Team Bahamas.

1376
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you Egypt plus the points or whatever.

1377
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1378
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: You know something else that kills me is while we're

1379
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: talking about Olympic basketball, and it kills me. In this year,

1380
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: you watch Jared, it'll be the same thing as it

1381
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: typically is. There will be someone somewhere that says, oh,

1382
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 2: the value you're getting with insert the blank non USA

1383
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: basketball team here, Oh the value you're getting with Lithuania,

1384
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: Oh ten to one? Yes, absolutely, And I'm just like,

1385
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: but you're not gonna win. I don't care what the

1386
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: value is if the bet he isn't going to win, right, Like,

1387
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: do you look at that differently at all?

1388
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, if you asked our pal Crack, he would probably say, yes,

1389
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: he bets things all the time, and professional gamblers bet

1390
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 3: things all the time that are mispriced, and they don't

1391
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: care about what you're referring to, which is win equity. Right.

1392
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: We say this in golf betting a lot. Golf betting's

1393
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: the one sport that I bet a lot of long

1394
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 3: shots in. What is their win equity? Can they actually

1395
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: win the tournament? Or is it just a price that's

1396
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: just wrong. I think those two trains of thought is

1397
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: the biggest gap between professional betters and recreational betters today.

1398
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 3: The recreational gamer, they're not to put you in a bucket,

1399
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people think, like you,

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's one hundred to one, is

1401
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: it gonna win. If it's one hundred to one and

1402
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: it should be twenty to one, it probably still isn't

1403
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 3: going to win because twenty to one is still very

1404
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: minuscule probability. But if it's supposed to be one hundred

1405
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 3: to one, a guy like Crack loves those bets even

1406
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: though it's probably not gonna win. It's miss priced. So

1407
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: it's just kind of again it goes back to like

1408
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: the over unders, like what's your mindset of choice? Do

1409
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 3: you want to bet for value or do you want

1410
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: to bet to win. Now, these guys win a lot too,

1411
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: but they lose a lot.

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, I get what you explained,

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: but here's what has to be included. It's a long shot,

1414
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: but it could happen. It needs to include but it

1415
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: could happen. Has to for me to say, Okay, that

1416
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: might make sense to you. We'll give you a long

1417
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: shot bet that had no chance to be correct. It

1418
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: was a long shot bet that had zero chance of hitting.

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01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: But that was the points we will discuss in just

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: a minute.

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Speaker 2: So we were just talking about long shot bet.

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: Yep. Now here's the thing.

1428
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes any sense to take a

1429
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: bet because of the value if it doesn't have any

1430
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: chance of cashing.

1431
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: You know, if it's supposed.

1432
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: To be twenty to one odds but it's one hundred

1433
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: to one odds, you still got to convince me that

1434
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: you think it has a realistic shot of hitting. Otherwise

1435
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: you know you're just throwing your money away regardless. But

1436
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: there was a there was a prop bet that had

1437
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: zero chance of hitting that many people bet on. But

1438
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: there was an ulterior motive here. So this goes to

1439
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: the NBA draft. Ronnie James was a trendy pick to

1440
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: be the number one overall selection, and it's like there

1441
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: was no chance of that happening none. He was actually

1442
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 2: selected fifty fifth overall. But the twist here, Jared, is

1443
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: that some of the people that bet on this, some

1444
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 2: of them, they do really well in the prop bet market,

1445
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: and so they have limits on their sports book of choice.

1446
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,839
Speaker 2: They're only allowed to bet a certain amount of money,

1447
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 2: and so they tried to intentionally bet on Browny James

1448
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: in an effort to look really square and to have

1449
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: their betting limits increase so then it could bet on

1450
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: other things. They could risk more money and have a

1451
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: greater payout. So some of it, some was fueled by that.

1452
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: The other ones are just morons because again there was

1453
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: no chance. If you're like, oh it's two hundred to one,

1454
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: it should be more like five hundred to one. Great,

1455
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: you still threw your money away.

1456
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, not a huge difference there either,

1457
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: by the way, and like that's the key is that

1458
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 3: five hundred to one and pull out my handy dandy

1459
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: that's calculator here, Like five hundred and one is basically

1460
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: saying a point two percent chance of something happening, whereas

1461
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: two hundred and one is saying point five percent chance.

1462
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 3: So like it's gone up like point three of a

1463
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 3: percent that it's not a big enough gap to where

1464
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: I think people make the bet. What you're referring to

1465
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 3: with the limit chasers, I'll call them, or yeah, voiters,

1466
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 3: I'll call it whatever you know, add if you want

1467
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 3: to use to describe what they're doing to the limits

1468
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 3: is very common. In fact, the way that I see

1469
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: it done in today's you know, betting landscape is parlays

1470
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: you will have because we have this, there's so many

1471
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 3: same game parlays that are available, and cracks giving out

1472
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 3: some of these same game parlays. Some of them could

1473
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: be correlated. I you know, we hit one yesterday in

1474
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: the Netherlands match. You know, some of them could be

1475
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 3: kind of sharp sometimes, but if you stack them in

1476
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 3: a way where it's multiple legs five ten legs and

1477
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: it's all over the map different games, like they will

1478
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 3: profile you. But this only works if it's a new account,

1479
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 3: because if the old account was making all these sharp

1480
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: bets and oh, let's just make one dumb one to

1481
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 3: try to throw them off our scent, your profile is

1482
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 3: already set where it's hard to kind of reverse course.

1483
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where it was, like, Hey, here's my quote

1484
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: unquote square bet on Bronnie to be the for twenty dollars.

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: All the other ones that are yeah, yeah, that ain't

1486
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: gonna work. The sportsbooks are pretty smart, dude.

1487
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: Guys, my limits have been raised, you know, I can

1488
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: have at it now. So it doesn't make all the

1489
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: sense in the world. But some of that was pretty interesting.

1490
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 2: Some of the guys over at BETMGM they opened Bronni

1491
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: being the number one overall pick at two hundred to

1492
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: one long shot odds, and some of the quotes were

1493
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: just great. There's one senior trader from BEDMGM. We were

1494
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: debating even putting it up. To be honest with you,

1495
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: we definitely didn't expect it to strike.

1496
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 3: The most bets when we put it up.

1497
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: The most bets were on Bronnie being the number one

1498
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: overall pick. That's what I'm talking about. There was zero chance.

1499
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't care what the value is and what the

1500
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 2: odds should be. You have no chance to win this bet.

1501
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: Don't bet it like it's a dumb bet if you

1502
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: take that.

1503
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: I think the Draft is the most unique betting event

1504
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: in all of sports. And the reason that I say

1505
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: that is because it's the only event where there is

1506
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: no luck. There's no luck involved. I mean, there's outcomes

1507
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 3: that are fortunate and unfortunate. But when I say luck,

1508
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: I mean like when you're on a nerfe and everything's

1509
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 3: going great. There's two outs in the bottom of the

1510
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: first inning, and you're doing fantastic, and then some guy

1511
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 3: hits a ground ball that like hits a pebble and

1512
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: goes in the center field, yeah, and you lose. Like

1513
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 3: that's what I mean by luck. Like something that is

1514
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 3: so unforeseen that not even the sharpest of hand handycappers

1515
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 3: could have predicted it. That doesn't happen in the draft

1516
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: because the sharpest of handicappers get the information, and if

1517
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: the information is correct, that's it. Unless the guy trips

1518
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 3: on his way up to give the card to the commissioner,

1519
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 3: like that's it. The pick is in. There's nothing that's

1520
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: going to change it. So that's why the draft has

1521
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: become a very interesting betting event. The sports books are

1522
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: drastically changing their approach the limits they're putting on each

1523
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 3: bet when they are putting the odds up for you

1524
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 3: to bet. The later they put them up, the better

1525
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: it is for the sports book. The more the longer

1526
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: period of time that the odds are up, the more

1527
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 3: sharps can shape the market and do what you were

1528
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: talking about with the Bronnie James thing. Throw some pebbles

1529
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: out there, just to you know, see if there's any movement,

1530
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 3: or see if they can't trip, you know, trick the

1531
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 3: books into thinking that they're actually going one way when

1532
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: it's really the other.

1533
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, sort of building off of the Bronny thing and

1534
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: going in a slightly different direction. I'm really curious to see,

1535
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,480
Speaker 2: not know, not necessarily, how this season plays out for Bronnie,

1536
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: because I have pretty good sense of that he's gonna

1537
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: be in the.

1538
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 3: G League most of the season.

1539
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: Right He's gonna get the call up here and there

1540
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: with the Lakers, but he's not gonna get much playing time.

1541
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: Probably be a special moment or two with his dad

1542
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: on the court at the same time, He's most curious,

1543
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: never know, right, But I'm really curious to see what

1544
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: the conversation, the mainstream conversation about Bronnie is gonna be

1545
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 2: like this season, because think about what we've seen to

1546
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 2: this point. There's this mixture of we just talked about

1547
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: he was the most bed on guy to be the

1548
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: number one overall pick in the NBA draft, you know,

1549
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: so there are some people out there that are delusional

1550
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: and think he's gonna be a lot better than he is,

1551
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: you know. And so if the expectations are pretty high,

1552
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: higher than they shoul should be, what's the conversation gonna

1553
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: sound like when the season plays out? Most likely the

1554
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: way it will, you know what I mean. Where he's

1555
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: in the G league most of the time. So I'm

1556
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: curious to find out how that's gonna be. And I

1557
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: think it's met with the other side, Jared. Where the coverage,

1558
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: and we started talking about this to begin the show.

1559
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: The coverage is way over the top already. Where his

1560
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: first bucket in summer league, Oh, that's posted, and his

1561
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: second bucket is posted, and here's Lebron reacting to the

1562
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 2: first bucket being posted, here's the side story, and here's.

1563
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, this dude.

1564
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: I know he's Lebron's son, but the coverage is already

1565
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: completely over the top. So this mixture of over the

1566
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: top coverage met with some people with unrealistic expectations. I'm

1567
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: really curious how the conversation is gonna sound like throughout

1568
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: the year.

1569
01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 3: Probably a lot like it's sounding now, but just on

1570
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: a lesser scale because there'll be other stories happening, so

1571
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: it won't get the top coverage, but it will still

1572
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: be talked about in the same light where he will

1573
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: be talked about more than any other player in his

1574
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: situation will be talked about. But in November, you're up

1575
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: against NFL college football, the NBA start of the season,

1576
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: where like when he actually is playing games wherever it is,

1577
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: there's so much else going on, and eventually it'll wear off. Right,

1578
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a shiny new toy if he play,

1579
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: If he's in the G League the whole season and

1580
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: he never gets called up. I'm not saying that's going

1581
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 3: to happen, but let's just live in that reality for

1582
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: a minute. By the time we get to like February.

1583
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: I think it'll be out of sight, out of mind.

1584
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 3: But then if the Lakers struggle, it'll be call up Bronnie,

1585
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: give Bronnie a chance, like yeah, it'll like the conversation,

1586
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: like he'll always be present. But I just think the

1587
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: amount of volume will decrease as other things happen.

1588
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be. I think I think two things.

1589
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you one thing real fast. I think that

1590
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: there are gonna be a lot of critics there already

1591
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: are with Bronni. And my question would be why why

1592
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: do you dislike the guy? And I'm sure it would

1593
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: be mixed met with well lebron It's like, well, that's

1594
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 2: not Bronnie's fault. Okay, there's no reason to hate on

1595
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Bronni because you happen to dislike lebron That makes no sense.

1596
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: And the other thing might be, well, he wouldn't have

1597
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: gotten that chance if not for dot dot dot And

1598
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we get it, but nepotism exists, Okay,

1599
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: like it happens many many areas, not just sports, So

1600
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: that to me is a get over it type thing.

1601
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Yep. So I think that the.

1602
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: Main critics will be hating on Bronni for reasons that

1603
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: don't make sense. I think we're gonna get a steady

1604
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: diet of that. I think we already are.

1605
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: I think that's sports media in general. I just think unfortunately,

1606
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: there's way more airtime these days than qualified conversators to

1607
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: fill it, and so it gets filled with a lot

1608
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: of junk and a lot of noise and a lot

1609
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 3: of clickbait. And I'm sure we're guilty of it at

1610
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: some point. Everyone is. When you do a three hour

1611
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 3: radio show every week, eventually, you know not every segment's

1612
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 3: going to be a home run. I think you look

1613
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 3: at what he's done. The criticism is fair, but it's

1614
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 3: also the world that we live in. And I use

1615
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 3: that phrase all the time. This is a world that

1616
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: we live in. Story Like, am I really gonna get

1617
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: up in arms about something that is so commonplace in

1618
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 3: the world that we live in. It's like getting mad

1619
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 3: about breathing oxygen? Like everyone breathes it, So why are

1620
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 3: you gonna get mad? Every single person in sports who

1621
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: works in sports either two things happened to you in

1622
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 3: your career. Either A you got your opportunity because you

1623
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 3: knew someone, or b you got passed up for an

1624
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: opportunity because the other person knew someone. If you've worked

1625
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 3: in sports for longer than five years and one of

1626
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: those two things hasn't happened to you, you haven't worked

1627
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 3: in sports for five years. So it's just something that happens.

1628
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: There's a guy on a roster somewhere in some far

1629
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: away land that probably should have been on the Lakers

1630
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: geeleie g roster, but he's not because Bronnie got the opportunity.

1631
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: And that's just the way the world works, right, the

1632
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 3: world we live in. That's the kind of story this is.

1633
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get up in arms about something that

1634
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: is just very common in our society.

1635
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in that point of the draft, it's just

1636
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 2: complete fly your territory.

1637
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: I'll say this.

1638
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: I think that the Lakers haven't done a good job

1639
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: of decreasing the drama. They've increased it. Some of the

1640
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: things that JJ Reddick have said. It's just like, bro,

1641
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: are you serious right now?

1642
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 3: It's just like I listen to a lot of his stuff.

1643
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: I guess I gotta brush up on Oh my gosh,

1644
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: we'll get you.

1645
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: Here's one thing that you should hear because he's talking

1646
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: about Bronnie like he's possibly the second coming, you know,

1647
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: so check this out.

1648
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,839
Speaker 4: Bronnie has earned this, right, Bronnie talks about his hard work.

1649
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 4: Bronnie has earned this through hard work. And for us

1650
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 4: prioritizing player development, we view Bronnie as like case study

1651
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 4: one because his base level of feel, athleticism, point of attack, defender, shooting, passing,

1652
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 4: There's a lot to like about his game, and as

1653
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 4: we sort of build out our player development program holistically,

1654
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 4: he's going to have a great opportunity to become an

1655
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: excellent NBA player.

1656
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Okay, That's what I'm talking about. Was pretty high praise

1657
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: for a guy that, you know, averaged four points in college.

1658
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is like, that's where no one's

1659
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 2: buying what JJ Reddick is selling right there. No, Okay,

1660
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: when you're just waxing poetic, point of attack, defender, passing, shooting.

1661
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 3: All the buzzwords like Piper in the draft.

1662
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, an excellent NBA player because of our holistic approach.

1663
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: Get out of here.

1664
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: Dude, Like you know what I mean, it's not even

1665
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: believable that I think.

1666
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, right, Yeah, I like to take long

1667
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: walks on the beach and listen to the romantic music.

1668
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: Jj'd be so much better off finding the middle ground

1669
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: of saying, listen, the guy has worked his butt off

1670
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 2: and yeah, and that's part of why he's here. Another

1671
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: part of this is, look, if we're being honest, the

1672
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,879
Speaker 2: second round, we're just hoping to strike gold, and hopefully

1673
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: we have, and this storyline is unbelievable. We're embracing this

1674
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: as what, like, just be real, just say what we

1675
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 2: know it. You're way better off being real instead of

1676
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: saying he's got a chance to be an excellent NBA

1677
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: player because of this, this, this, this, this, and this,

1678
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: Why is he the fifty fifth overall pick?

1679
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 3: Then? Man, come on, no one's believing that at all.

1680
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 3: I think what you're seeing is two things. First of all,

1681
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 3: it's a new coach trying to ingratiate himself to the

1682
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 3: to the star player. And I know Brown he's not

1683
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 3: the star player, but let's be honest, right, he's part

1684
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 3: of the he's part of the family made man. And

1685
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: the second thing is you're going you're you're getting a

1686
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 3: glimpse of what the JJ Reddick Lakers are gonna look like. Yeah,

1687
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: they are going to be a team that probably glosses

1688
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 3: over some of the more wrinkly parts of the game

1689
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 3: for flowery language and you know, out foxing the media

1690
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 3: because I'll be honest and and I I empathize, or

1691
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 3: I should say I sympathize with the head coaches in

1692
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 3: the league. It's lose lose. In the NBA, if you win,

1693
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: it's the stars that one. If you lose, you're gonna

1694
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: figure out a way to not blame the stars because

1695
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: they're the stars and you're the coach, and you're gonna

1696
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: be out the door. Look at Monty Williams in Detroit,

1697
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 3: and I know Detroit doesn't have any stars, but that

1698
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 3: situation was absurd. Look at what just happened to the Lakers,

1699
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,839
Speaker 3: Like there's no there, there's no winning. With the media,

1700
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: it's really hard. I think the the way that the

1701
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 3: media US included approaches covering sports today, it's harder and

1702
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: harder to be a coach because the media is getting smarter.

1703
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: A lot of former coaches are now part of the media.

1704
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 3: They're going to ask the tough questions, they're going to

1705
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: ask the hot button topic that is going to their

1706
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 3: job is to go viral and get clicks they're trying

1707
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 3: to get you to trip up. It's a very confrontational relationship,

1708
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 3: sometimes adversarial at times. And JJ's very good at the media.

1709
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 3: I think that's why he got the job, other than

1710
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: his relationship with Lebron. So you're starting to see the

1711
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 3: propaganda the big brother kind of come into the room

1712
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 3: and say this is how we're going to approach this.

1713
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how he plays because he is

1714
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: how it plays out. JJ is media savvy. We all

1715
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: know that. But some of the stuff he's selling just

1716
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: isn't even halfway believable. Hey, right, Like, so that's the

1717
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: thing is, and you put a podcast together and he's

1718
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: got great basketball insight, and that's fine, but he's playing

1719
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: a different game here.

1720
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, and when you're not cast, yeah.

1721
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: When you're trying to sell something that at this point

1722
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 2: is not even slightly believable. He's trying to sell like, hey,

1723
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: Bronni at number one overall. I mean, it's a bet

1724
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: you might want to make right there. It's like, no, no,

1725
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: it isn't not at all. Come on, man, like, we're

1726
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: not dumb. What are we talking about here? So I'm

1727
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: curious to see how he plays this because again, where

1728
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 2: it can get a little bit tricky is if he

1729
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 2: thinks to himself, Hey, what does Lebron want to hear?

1730
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 2: What does he not want to hear? Lebron isn't gonna

1731
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 2: want to hear Hey, we did this mostly for the storyline,

1732
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: you know, and we did this because we wanted to

1733
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: kind of like appease Lebron.

1734
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to hear that.

1735
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, does that alter what you're gonna say

1736
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: in the press conference? If it does, then that's gonna

1737
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: bear watching. That's where media savvy. You got to be

1738
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: team savvy and Lebron savvy at the same time.

1739
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 3: It's win Yeah. I think I think any NBA coach

1740
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 3: that has a lot of stars on their team, and yeah,

1741
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of them, you're never gonna win that

1742
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:18,919
Speaker 3: battle because.

1743
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: Well, that's where I would just yeah, I would just look, man,

1744
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 2: I I would I would be real more times than not,

1745
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 2: and I would find a way to be real in

1746
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: a in a manner that's not going to just completely

1747
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: step on toes And I'm not gonna make the right

1748
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit there and wax poetic as if

1749
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: it's a sham that Bronni was in a top ten

1750
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: pick because his traits. Bro coach, I was a little old,

1751
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, and I haven't heard much of JJ

1752
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: so far.

1753
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 3: I watched a little bit on Draft night that was

1754
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 3: very over the top. That was us trying to sell

1755
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 3: you a dozen donuts and when you open the box's

1756
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 3: only eleven in there. Yea, that's like what happened to

1757
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 3: the twelfth on it. It's not even in there? That

1758
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 3: quite right?

1759
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 2: All right, we got a lot to do coming up next.

1760
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: There was a stat from last season that is crazy

1761
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 2: and might provide some context for this team this season.

1762
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: We'll share that with you coming up. He's Jared Smith.

1763
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Noo. We're live from the Tireck dot Com

1764
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 2: studios here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio.

1765
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith. I'm Brian no. This is like the

1766
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: music you listen to when you're running up those hills.

1767
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 3: There, Jared, Right, Yeah, this is Vegas. Is that heavy stuff.

1768
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: I haven't done a lot of it. Well, actually, there's

1769
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 3: one hill outside my apartment that I do every day.

1770
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 3: But I've been doing a lot of Zone two running lately.

1771
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 3: For those that are in the fitness game. You understand

1772
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. It's just Zone two running. Yeah,

1773
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 3: it's basically like I'm trying to train myself to run.

1774
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 3: I got to the five k status. I can run

1775
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 3: a five k now without stopping. Yay. Took me thirty

1776
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: eight years to learn how to do that. Next is

1777
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 3: the ten k, But you've got to really build a

1778
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 3: lot of base fitness before you could run that much,

1779
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: like over six miles. It's long what, So you've got

1780
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: to basically set a foundation. So Zone two is just

1781
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: like you're just above like Zone one, which is like nothing.

1782
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 3: You're not doing any work, so it's like basically you're

1783
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 3: like light jogging for like forty five minutes. Really boring,

1784
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's very uh, very formative for your fitness levels.

1785
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 3: So I got two things for you.

1786
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 2: One I told my girl the other day, be kind

1787
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: of funny because you see these bumper stickers where someone

1788
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 2: will have it's thirteen point one for a half marathon,

1789
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 2: twenty six point two for a full marathon. I said,

1790
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: I think it'd be funny if we had a bumper

1791
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: sticker that said point one or point two. I had

1792
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: a couple of knee surgeries. My knee is not fond

1793
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: of me running, especially on herd surfaces. I can run,

1794
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 2: but not for an extended period of time.

1795
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just I always like it was my fitness level

1796
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 3: that prevented me from running, but I just wasn't doing

1797
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: it properly.

1798
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 5: I learned.

1799
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: I've learned how to run, which is weird because I

1800
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 3: was running wrong before. How are you running wrong? Breathing?

1801
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 3: The breathing technique I was using was not helping me.

1802
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: I was too upright and I wasn't leaning forward again,

1803
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: A little tweaks that, like, you don't think about when

1804
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: you're running. You're just like, I'm gonna start running.

1805
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: You will wearing those hymns instead of running shoes.

1806
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: I was wearing loafers. Actually, yeah, because I was a

1807
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 3: football guy growing up, so I was always short sprints.

1808
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,879
Speaker 3: Let's get to point A to point B as quickly

1809
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: as possible. Now I'm more of a distance runner in

1810
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 3: my later years, where I don't really who sprints anymore,

1811
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 3: and so it's just like a different mindset. It's like

1812
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 3: betting overs the unders. Yeah, there you go. The thing

1813
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 3: you're with a different part of your brain.

1814
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna be betting your fees like crazy.

1815
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 3: Pretty soon we'll get to the postseason, will bet a

1816
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 3: lot of your fees. That's when the postseason, the euro

1817
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 3: fees are always here to go.

1818
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: I'm curious, and there's a reason I bring this up

1819
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 2: because of what I was doing yesterday. How do you

1820
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: fare outside?

1821
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 3: Right?

1822
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: You're there in Vegas. The sun is just beating down

1823
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 2: on you. How do you fare outside? Like with your

1824
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 2: skin everything going on over there? Better than I did

1825
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: the first year. The first year was an adjustment. So

1826
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm a big bodied, barrel chested. I didn't do well

1827
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: in the humidity. I lived on the East Coast for

1828
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 2: thirty six years.

1829
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,759
Speaker 3: You know, Michigan, which is still humid, is still technically

1830
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 3: Eastern time zone, so let's just lump it in with

1831
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 3: the East Coast. But I grew up in New York

1832
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 3: and South Florida, between those two areas, so obviously South

1833
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 3: Florida is very hot. In New York not as hot,

1834
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: but very humid. And the humidity, just because of my

1835
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 3: blood and the way that I'm built, just I always

1836
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 3: felt sticky. So when I moved out here, the biggest

1837
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 3: change that I noticed was even in hot temperatures, I

1838
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: didn't feel as hot. Right, it's a dry heat. But

1839
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: let's use the qualifier. When you get north of one ten,

1840
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 3: that's when you throw the dry heat nonsense out at

1841
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 3: the window. If it feels like someone turned an oven

1842
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: on out, he is oppressive.

1843
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 2: I was outside yesterday. I got some son Jared. Okay,

1844
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: good for you, Bud, got a little bit of sun.

1845
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: So this was the story. I was doing some sports radio.

1846
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 2: It's doing a fill in show in Indianapolis, and so

1847
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 2: this guy Darnell calls in and he had some nice

1848
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: things to say, and then he invited me out to

1849
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: see some beep baseball.

1850
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: And I said, beep baseball? What is that about? Yeah,

1851
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is.

1852
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:39,919
Speaker 2: And so he's like, Hey, we're gonna be in Champagne.

1853
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 2: This is where we're at for you know, a two

1854
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 2: month period. He's like, we're gonna be there on Saturday.

1855
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll go, I'll head out there. I'll check

1856
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 2: it out. So what it is, it's for some of

1857
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 2: the players on the teams, they've lost their sight.

1858
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 3: They have they don't have vision anymore.

1859
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 2: And so everybody wears a mask where you can't see

1860
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 2: and the ball beeps, so you try to time it

1861
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: out and hit the ball that's beeping. And then the

1862
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: fielders they have masks on as well, and they try

1863
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 2: to field the ball. You just find the ball, pick

1864
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: it up before the hitter will run. I don't know

1865
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: a good distance. I should have asked Darnell how far

1866
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 2: it was, but I would guess a good close to

1867
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: fifty yards, like at least forty yards away. You'll run

1868
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 2: to a base that's beeping, so you try to make

1869
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: it to the base before the fielders grab the ball.

1870
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 3: It was fascinating, dangerous.

1871
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 2: It's all run danger aspect, but they find a way

1872
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 2: to decrease it. If it's a foul ball or something,

1873
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: just yell stop, like just stop stop running. And they

1874
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: have zones the fielders. There are six zones, and so

1875
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 2: where the ball is hit, they'll be like three, so

1876
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: you know it's in your zone and you just try

1877
01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 2: to listen for.

1878
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 3: The ball to pick it up. It's crazy. It was

1879
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 3: a great time though. I am never against going to

1880
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 3: a new sport and watching a new sport because I

1881
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 3: I view sports as like my lifeblood, and it's like,

1882
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: you know, you filled the cup with something new. It's

1883
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:15,799
Speaker 3: like a new It's like going to a new restaurant,

1884
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 3: never been to before, right, you want to try something new.

1885
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 3: I in a million years, I never would have guessed

1886
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 3: that they could have turned that into a sport. But

1887
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 3: it's great because you know, if you're blind, that's it's

1888
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 3: almost impossible. It is impossible to play sports in the

1889
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 3: traditional sense. But that is really really transformative. I mean,

1890
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 3: that's progressive type stuff right there. Yeah.

1891
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: And I asked him, I'm like, how long has this

1892
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 2: been around. He's like, almost fifty years. It'll be fifty years.

1893
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this, I know. He's like, it'll

1894
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: be fifty years in twenty twenty six. I'm like, wow, man,

1895
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1896
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean, but it was also Olympics, as you know,

1897
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 3: variations of the sports that we all know, and you know,

1898
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 3: the Paralympics also very similar to that regard. I've never

1899
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 3: heard of this before.

1900
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1901
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was a guy from the other team.

1902
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 2: There was a team from Saint Louis, a team from Chicago.

1903
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 2: He was like that guy over there. He was in

1904
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: a major league organization before he lost his team.

1905
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 3: He get paid for this. Oh oh oh oh, mague No, yeah, right,

1906
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 3: what on that.

1907
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 2: Now we're really talking no, but yeah, before we bet

1908
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 2: this though, isn't it be when your mind works like that?

1909
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: Were You're like, all right, I should have said, Darnell,

1910
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 2: your team got off to a good start eight runs

1911
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: in the first inning. But I don't know this other team.

1912
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're plus yeah, they're plus eight fifty

1913
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 2: right now, I gotta think about this. They got a

1914
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 2: shot to get close. That was a good time. It's

1915
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 2: a really good time.

1916
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 3: All right. We've got Martin Weiss with us.

1917
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: I'll get you the stat that blows my mind for

1918
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: an NFL team last season that could mean something significant

1919
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 2: this season. But first Martin Weiss with the latest what's

1920
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: going on?

1921
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 5: But this is a stat that might blow your mind.

1922
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 7: Here Angel now the w NBA record holder for consecutive

1923
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 7: double doubles. She's got thirteen points and eleven rebounds at

1924
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 7: the end of the third quarter. Bad news is though

1925
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 7: the Chicago Sky trailing the Seattle Storm sixty to fifty

1926
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 7: three at the start of the fourth quarter. Also in

1927
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 7: the WNBA earlier today, the Sun beat the Dream eighty

1928
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 7: to sixty seven. Connecticut has the best record, tied with

1929
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 7: the Liberty at seventeen and four Aces beat the Wings

1930
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 7: one hundred and four to eighty five. Asia Wilson her

1931
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 7: twenty eight points today made her the franchise leading scorer

1932
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 7: all time for the Vegas Aces. MLB All Star lineups

1933
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 7: announced their thirty two first time All Stars as Bobby Witt, Junior,

1934
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 7: Li De La Cruz, Jackson, Merrill, Mason Miller, Gunner Henderson,

1935
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 7: and Paul Skeens all will be in the Midsummer Classic.

1936
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 7: The Phillies got seven All Stars total. Padres, the Padres, Goodness, Dodgers,

1937
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 7: Padres and Guardians all got five. Just now, the Toronto

1938
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 7: Blue Jays beat the Seattle Mariners and ten five to four.

1939
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 7: The tenth inning there, the Orioles double UPDA six to three.

1940
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks pounded the Padres at nine to one. Brewers came

1941
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 7: into Chavez Ravine beat the Dodgers nine to two. Braves

1942
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 7: had four home runs when they shut out the Phillies

1943
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 7: six to nothing. Tigers with the five to one went

1944
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 7: over the Reds Guardians what they come from behind win

1945
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 7: against the Giants.

1946
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 5: Five to four.

1947
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 7: Jake Berger had a three run walk off homer as

1948
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 7: the Marlins beat the White Sox seven to four. Cardinals

1949
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 7: outscored the Nationals eight to three, mets three.

1950
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 5: To two over the Pirates.

1951
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant sideline for this tart start of Team USA's

1952
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 7: training camp due to a strained calf. In Wimbledon, Carlos

1953
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 7: Alcaraz won his fourth round match in four sets. That's

1954
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 7: his ninth major quarterfinals appearance. That'll be coming up. Yannick

1955
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 7: Center the number one seed. He's headed to the quarterfinals

1956
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 7: as well, after beating fourteen seed American Ben Shelton in

1957
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 7: straight sets. Center will face five seed Daniel Medvedev in

1958
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 7: the quarterfinals. On the women's side of things, Madison Keys

1959
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 7: was a twelve overall seed. She had to retire in

1960
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 7: the third set of her fourth round match due to

1961
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 7: a leg injury. American in nineteenth seed Emma Navarro upset

1962
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 7: Coco Golf in straight sets to advance to her first

1963
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 7: Grand Slam quarterfinal. In Formula one, Lewis Hamilton won the

1964
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 7: British Grand Prix for the ninth time. He beat max

1965
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,440
Speaker 7: Versteppin by one point four seconds. And in Sunday Night Baseball,

1966
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 7: the Yankees and the Red Sox no.

1967
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 5: Score their top of the third inning. Brian and Jared

1968
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:23,440
Speaker 5: back to you guys.

1969
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 2: Thank you Martin, good stuff, but it is Fox Sports Radio,

1970
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Jared Smith, Brian know with you here. This is the

1971
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: stat that blows my mind from the Jets last season.

1972
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 5: Jared.

1973
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: So, the Jets collectively eleven touchdown passes, fifteen interceptions. They

1974
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 2: still won seven games. Eleven touchdowns fifteen picks. Now, it's

1975
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: not shocking that it was just eleven because you had

1976
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Trevor Simmey, and Tim Boyle. I'm not stunned

1977
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: they didn't throw or touchdowns that the Jets last year.

1978
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,520
Speaker 3: They still won seven games.

1979
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 2: Chrazy with that being the case. So ask yourself, if

1980
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers plays this season and he's healthy, he's gonna

1981
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 2: throw in the neighborhood of thirty touchdown passes, right, how

1982
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 2: many more wins is that gonna equate to when they

1983
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 2: had eleven touchdown passes last season and still won seven

1984
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 2: freaking games. That's why I think the Jets they'd be

1985
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: my bet to win the division. I'll just say I

1986
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 2: think that they are the best bet to win the

1987
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 2: AFC East with Aaron Rodgers in a real defense, I

1988
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: don't know why all these people jumped off the bandwagon

1989
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: because he got hurt.

1990
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 3: I think they have the best chance to win the division.

1991
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to argue with that logic, it really is.

1992
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 3: And again, you're not paying a premium for the price either.

1993
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 3: You're actually paying the same price as last year. And

1994
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 3: I think they're better this year than they were last

1995
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 3: year because their offensive line is better. The rest of

1996
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 3: the team's pretty much the same, but their offensive line

1997
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 3: is better. I just when you look at those divisional odds,

1998
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 3: usually there's a reason why the price is what it is.

1999
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 3: That Week one game is the key. It really is,

2000
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 3: like I think it all boils down to that Week

2001
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 3: one game. I think if the Jets win that game

2002
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 3: Week one, I really think the division is a lock.

2003
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 3: And if they don't win it, then they're gonna be

2004
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 3: fighting the uphill battle. And I'm not saying that they

2005
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 3: can't win it if they don't win Week one, but

2006
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 3: if those two prices are relatively the same, I would

2007
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 3: rather take my chances week one. Get that win under

2008
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 3: your belt, then they would immediately jump to the favorites role.

2009
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Buffalo has a very easy game Week one two. I

2010
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 3: think they I want to say, they face someone really

2011
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 3: bad at home. Better not be Miami. No, I don't

2012
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 3: think it's Miami. I forget who It is. Seven point

2013
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 3: favorite and they're gonna win that game. So Buffalo Buffalo

2014
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 3: is starting one to no. If the Jets beat the

2015
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 3: Niners in a game that they're a five point underdog.

2016
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 3: I think actually that number has gone up a little

2017
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 3: bit recently. It's five and a half. It's the same

2018
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: price for them to win the division than it is

2019
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 3: for them to win that game. So walk yourself through

2020
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 3: the scenario. A. Do I bet Jets money line plus

2021
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 3: two hundred Week one against the Niners. B Do I

2022
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 3: bet Jets plus two hundred to win the division. If

2023
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 3: you go with option A and they win that that's it.

2024
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 3: You're done. It's over. The BET's done. Aaron Rodgers can

2025
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 3: get hurt coming out of the shower the next day,

2026
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. You already won your bet. If you

2027
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 3: go with option B and you bet the Jets to

2028
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 3: win the division and they lose that game week one,

2029
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 3: which they are supposed to do, and the Bills win

2030
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 3: by thirty against the Cardinals, there you go. You'll get

2031
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 3: a better price absolutely in week two to bet the

2032
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 3: Jets to win the Division, So it just kind of

2033
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 3: boils down to, you know, six to one, half dozen

2034
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 3: to the other, Like, what mindset you want to put

2035
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 3: yourself in in Week one? You're gonna if you're betting

2036
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 3: Jets to win the division that Week one game, who boy,

2037
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 3: you win that game, You're feeling like you're winning that thing,

2038
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 3: So you might as well just put a little pull,

2039
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 3: a little skin in the game to get some to

2040
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 3: get some chips down for that Week one game. I

2041
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 3: like it.

2042
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 2: So this might be your approach based on what we've

2043
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 2: talked about earlier in the show. You brought up the

2044
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 2: Jets to be the last unbeaten team at fourteen to

2045
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 2: one odds, so I'm sensing you might sprinkle a little

2046
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: bit on that game, thinking if they get the Niners

2047
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 2: in Week one, they win that game, it gets soft.

2048
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 2: The next four games are very, very favorable. So if

2049
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: you're holding a fourteen and one fourteen to one ticket

2050
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 2: in your back pocket and they win Week one, you're like,

2051
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 2: this has a real chance.

2052
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but if.

2053
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 2: They lose that game, so you sprinkle a little bit

2054
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 2: on fourteen to one last unbeaten team being the Jets,

2055
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 2: they lose Week one, yep, now you're looking at the

2056
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 2: divisional odds and you're gonna get a better price than

2057
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 2: two to one. They're like, what plus one ninety right now,

2058
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a better price on that. It might grow,

2059
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 2: it'd be about I'm like, what plus two fifty?

2060
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 3: It's not gonna getting crazy. Yeah, that's not long. Last

2061
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 3: week one, depending on how Buffalo looks weak one and

2062
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 3: Miami too. And Miami week one, let's see who they

2063
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 3: have real fast the top of my head, I don't

2064
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 3: think it's an overly difficult opponent. Jay have three and

2065
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 3: a half Jags at home, So there you go. That's

2066
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 3: all let's say.

2067
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're thinking about the Jets to win the division,

2068
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 2: you're right, I mean you might wait after week one.

2069
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 3: Wait make one.

2070
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 2: That's a tough road game. Miami and the Bills have

2071
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 2: favorable matchups at all. So if you're thinking about waiting,

2072
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 2: right the Jets at oh and one, Dolphins and Bills

2073
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 2: both one and zero, and they play in week two,

2074
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 2: someone's losing, Like that'd be the time to pounce on

2075
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: the Jets. So yeah, maybe wait after Week one against

2076
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

2077
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 3: You know, well, then you're shoving your chips to the middle. Like,

2078
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 3: that's why I do the matrix. Brian and we talked

2079
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 3: about this on the Saturday Show, Like I create this

2080
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 3: little spreadsheet that has all the games, all the spreads

2081
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 3: for every team, because you can kind of map out

2082
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: the spots and you can be like, all right, this

2083
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 3: is where the season will take a fork in the

2084
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 3: road the Jets. That fork just happens to be Week one. Yeah.

2085
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 2: No, you can map it out where it's like, this

2086
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 2: is the time to strike exactly.

2087
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're all knowing, No, Hey, it's kind

2088
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 3: of time the market. Timing the market's really hard to do.

2089
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 3: But because the way the NFL schedule is, you can

2090
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 3: be a little more manipulative. Yep, no, no doubt about that.

2091
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, Jared, I have an NFL

2092
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:27,440
Speaker 2: statement to make. Oh boy, it's somewhat positive, mostly critical,

2093
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 2: but it is one hundred accurate.

2094
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 3: That is on the way.

2095
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith, I'm Brian. No, hang with us right

2096
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio.

2097
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith, I'm Brian know. And this is a

2098
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 2: winning selection by our girl Mary Mack.

2099
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is vibes right here. Love this.

2100
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 2: This is a way to close a show with some

2101
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: country vibes.

2102
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 3: Are you have country? You like country? There? Love country music?

2103
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 5: You do a fun fact?

2104
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 3: You know? New York City kid then went and move

2105
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 3: to South Florida, and then my mom got a promotion

2106
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: before high school, I moved to DC Northern Virginia actually,

2107
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 3: and I played baseball in high school. I never listened

2108
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 3: to country music before in my life. Yeah, and then

2109
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 3: I moved to Virginia and our head baseball coach was

2110
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 3: from like the sticks out there in Virginia, and that's

2111
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 3: all he played during workouts. So I was forced to

2112
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 3: become Kenny Chesney Brooks and done all that stuff.

2113
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 2: I loved it, man, I love what an interesting path

2114
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: that I was forced.

2115
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 3: Upon country music. But it gets catchy, it's dibby. Some's

2116
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 3: really good. Okay.

2117
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 2: So, uh, I've got an NFL statement for you. No, Jared,

2118
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 2: it's a little bit positive. You have to read between

2119
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,680
Speaker 2: the lines. You have to sift for the positive and

2120
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 2: magnifying glass.

2121
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is mostly critical, but it is completely accurate.

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Speaker 3: You ready, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens are the cowboys of the AFC.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what they are.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's start positively, specifically, the Lamar Jackson era Ravens.

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Speaker 3: What do they do well?

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Speaker 2: They're really good in the regular season, win a bunch

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Speaker 2: of games, Lamar's winning awards. Then in the playoffs, what happens?

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Speaker 2: They don't do anything. Nothing. You have Lamar Jackson, He's

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Speaker 2: got two MVP awards, he's got two playoff wins, his

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Speaker 2: playoff records two and four. He's got as many MVPs

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Speaker 2: as he does playoff wins. Okay, in six attempts. That's

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Speaker 2: not good enough. And the Cowboys. What's different is the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys get vilified and crushed and ah, the Cowboys America's team.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens aren't called out the same way, but they

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Speaker 2: are as disappointing as the Cowboys are. When the playoffs

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Speaker 2: roll around, they are It's the Spider Man meme. The

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Speaker 2: Ravens are pointing at the Cowboys, and the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: pointing back at them, because it is a mirrored image.

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Speaker 2: When we get to playoff results, Ravens the Cowboys of

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Speaker 2: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to argue with that. I think the

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Speaker 3: Bills also hold my beer. Now, I would say they've

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Speaker 3: had a little bit more success in the playoffs than

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Speaker 3: the Ravens and the Cowboys have had. They've been to

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Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game. I don't believe the Cowboys have

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Speaker 3: been to the NFC Championship Game anytime in this millennium.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember the last time it happened. The Ravens

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Speaker 3: have also been to the AC Championship Game last year,

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Speaker 3: came up short at home as a favorite. I lost

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Speaker 3: a lot of money on them in that game. Very sad.

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Speaker 3: I'm still I'm over it now. But the Cowboys, to me,

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Speaker 3: I think it's the brand that's what causes a lot

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Speaker 3: of their negative attention, because they get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 3: If they ever won, it would be positive attention, but

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Speaker 3: they haven't won, so it's negative. When you're America's team

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Speaker 3: and you haven't won, you're gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 3: bad pros. Yeah, And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This is what's interesting to me about if you look

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Speaker 2: at Dak Prescott, right, I'm just thinking about if he

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Speaker 2: had two MVPs, yeah, and then he faltered in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: what would be said about that. He would be absolutely crushed.

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Speaker 3: More than he is now because he's crushed a lot now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, okay, he would be oh, just obliterated for

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Speaker 2: something like that, just like.

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Speaker 3: Dak can't get it done, Dak can't win the big one.

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Speaker 3: Dak's not elite. Dak Dak, Dak, Dak dacha. That's kind

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Speaker 3: of what they say now they do.

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Speaker 2: But I think it would be even louder if he

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Speaker 2: had two MVPs. Dak Prescott is two and five in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Lamar Jackson is two and four in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Dak had two regular season MVPs

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Speaker 2: and then stinks it up on the road against San Francisco. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'd be vilified even more. It's not the same way

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Speaker 2: with Lamar though.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I think it's the Bills more than

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Speaker 3: it is the Cowboys is because the Ravens have actually

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Speaker 3: on multiple Super Bowls in the last twenty years. But

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying the Lamar jack It's just if

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Speaker 3: you want just the last decade, then yes, it's a

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Speaker 3: very apt comparison. But I still think the Bills are

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Speaker 3: also in that sphere. Yeah, I'd like to hold my

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Speaker 3: beer reference as well.

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Speaker 2: It's well done, all right, Jared, good hanging with you

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Speaker 2: We're off to listen to some country music I think

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Speaker 2: right now, and maybe eat some good food.