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Speaker 1: who's in the campaign, oh somebody else WI campaign at

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Speaker 1: all from these people's account. And then we had to

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Speaker 1: fifty pairs of women. There were fifty things that people

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Speaker 1: can now do two take an action that will leave

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Speaker 1: the world a little bit better than they found it.

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Speaker 1: For me, I left people with the with the be

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Speaker 1: How do you use your voice in the moment when

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Speaker 1: it's hard. That is part of how we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to better is if we all decide to commit to

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Speaker 1: tell them more truth. So across the day, if you're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do in this moment, pick

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Speaker 1: one out of the fifty acts that we dropped on you.

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Speaker 1: Some people are like, donate to this campaign. Some people

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Speaker 1: said go read this book. Others were like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: go read this article and over that day it was

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Speaker 1: so powerful to see as we're leaving people with things

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Speaker 1: to do because we know what black women do. Even

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Speaker 1: though we are not supposed to always be teaching, we

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Speaker 1: still do it anyway. We can't help it, we can healthy.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how we shrup. On the other side of

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Speaker 1: the break, we have more with Levey. I hope you

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Speaker 1: and then the taming can naked work on Harry Chappion

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Speaker 1: and carry Chappion is to be a champion, a champion

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Speaker 1: they carry Chappi and the Champion, they carry Chappion and

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Speaker 1: We got more with the New York Times best selling

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Speaker 1: She has other titles, right Lovey Jones. So personally, speaking

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Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, it was real easy for me.

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Speaker 1: I just showed up as y'all told me to show up,

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Speaker 1: by y'all was doing all the heavy lifting. And I

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Speaker 1: had so many people asked me about it, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, listen, I just I just know some folks.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad I'm here because I'm showing up big time.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pretending I got something to say. And at

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Speaker 1: that time, Um, personally, I just had such a horrible

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Speaker 1: relationship with white women in the workspace. And what Busy

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Speaker 1: was able Busy Phillips was able to do for me

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Speaker 1: who's been on this podcast, was restore my faith and

470
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Speaker 1: let me know that it didn't matter what your skin

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Speaker 1: looked like. If you really truly understand the struggle, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be down for the struggle. And you were able

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Speaker 1: to do that. You Bows Glennon were able to do

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Speaker 1: that for so many people and and it kind of

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Speaker 1: took a load off and maybe not be so anti

476
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Speaker 1: and I was so because I was angry. I just

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Speaker 1: left a UESPN and I was angry. And you were

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Speaker 1: able to change. And that's the operative word change my

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Speaker 1: perspective of what you did. You are, my friend, a

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Speaker 1: change maker, you really true are You're a change agent

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Speaker 1: um And you have this number two, number two New

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483
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Speaker 1: professional troublemaker Hello, that you send great kids on and

484
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Speaker 1: we all talked about it. And you are a professional troublemaker.

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Speaker 1: But what does that mean for you? If someone met

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Speaker 1: you and he's like, I'm a professional troublemaker, Like, guess

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Speaker 1: what I do for my professional I make trouble What

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Speaker 1: does that mean for me to be professional troublemakers? To

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Speaker 1: continue to disrupt for good? It doesn't mean I am

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Speaker 1: disagreeing just for the sake of it. It It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I'm hating on somebody or trolling somebody. It means what

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Speaker 1: can I do with my power, with my access, with

493
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Speaker 1: whatever privilege that I have to interrupt something that's not okay,

494
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Speaker 1: to actively take action about something that's in my purview?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, even sure the mic now was making trouble.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I wanted to write the whole

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Speaker 1: book about professional troublemaking is I wanted to convict us all,

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Speaker 1: compel us all to figure out what are those small

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Speaker 1: acts that we can all do. Whether it's speaking up

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Speaker 1: for your for your black hole worker as she's being

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Speaker 1: gas lit, that's important. That's troublemaking. Whether it is making

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Speaker 1: sure that you're advocating for the person to get a

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Speaker 1: raise because you know that why dude got a raise too,

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Speaker 1: that's troublemaking. Whether it's sitting at the dinner table and

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Speaker 1: telling your uncle that joke is not inappropriate. I need

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Speaker 1: you or not, that's making trouble. You're interrupting what's not

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Speaker 1: good and replacing it with something better. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what it means. You literally provide a how to

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Speaker 1: be different, to disrupt to what it and and and

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Speaker 1: by the way, what you're asking people to do is

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Speaker 1: it difficult? Like you can do it in a big

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Speaker 1: way or you can do it in a small way.

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Speaker 1: And to me, that's why it makes sense. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's why it's like, Okay, look, I ain't gotta go

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Speaker 1: out here and have a bone in my nose and

516
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Speaker 1: afro pick in my hair. But let me show you

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Speaker 1: what I can do and what and and and when

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Speaker 1: I do it. This will make a difference. And you

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Speaker 1: may not see it, but it will make a difference.

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Speaker 1: I want to know because I know you, and I

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Speaker 1: think the world came to know you with your blog.

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Speaker 1: But I want to know what is come from this,

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Speaker 1: this this little and by the way, y'all, she she's

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Speaker 1: petite and every possible way I want to we we

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Speaker 1: we went to Cabo when you hear this. We went

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Speaker 1: to Cabbo one time, which is probably a few weeks

527
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Speaker 1: from time you hear this. And I want to put

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Speaker 1: her in my my suitcase because she's so adorable. And then,

529
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Speaker 1: like you said, a little mighty mighty troublemaker. I love it,

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Speaker 1: but adorable, pretty good skin. I fell in love. I

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Speaker 1: was like, girl, I love you to be your girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to I want to take you with

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Speaker 1: me because I wanted I need you physically and mentally

534
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Speaker 1: telling me everything to do. I was like, that's my girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: We go together. Like I was like, I got a

536
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Speaker 1: major girl crush. But you you came to the world

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Speaker 1: with your block I think that's when people started to

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Speaker 1: know who you were in terms of in the social

539
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Speaker 1: media world. Where does that come from, the little girl

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Speaker 1: from Nigeria ready to fight for everything that's right? Oh man,

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Speaker 1: it comes to my grandmother. You know, that is who

542
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Speaker 1: I watched growing up, who showed me what it was

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Speaker 1: like to be this woman who took up space. You know,

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Speaker 1: my grandmother didn't have more than a high school education,

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Speaker 1: and she can walk into any room and talk to anybody,

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Speaker 1: whether it was a dignitary or a cab driver. And

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Speaker 1: she made a home out of everybody too. So it

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Speaker 1: was like, she's gonna tell you the real but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna love her, right. So she showed me that you

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Speaker 1: can be this bald woman who tells the truth, who

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Speaker 1: tells people how it is, but it's also kind, deeply loving, generous.

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Speaker 1: And I just remember being at my grandmother's funeral and

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Speaker 1: seeing how much she was honored, like how much people

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Speaker 1: showed up and spoke, how they spoke about her. I

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Speaker 1: even think about the fact that the people at her

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Speaker 1: church told the mortician that he could not bathe her

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Speaker 1: because they had to do it right, because they were like,

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Speaker 1: we want to do that for her. We want to

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Speaker 1: bathe her into this next life. We want to address her.

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Speaker 1: And that woman showed me what it was like to

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Speaker 1: live true. You know, you don't have to be sugary

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Speaker 1: sweet to be a person of honor and to be

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Speaker 1: a person who is lovable. You can be the person

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Speaker 1: who is true, who can be direct, but you are

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Speaker 1: still loved because you are the person that you are

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Speaker 1: and you're working towards making this world better. That's who

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Speaker 1: I watched, and I didn't realize I was modeling myself

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Speaker 1: after her until she brought me passed and I realized, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I have my grandmother's full energy and spirit. When you

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Speaker 1: were in college and I know you majored in psychology,

571
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Speaker 1: could you have predicted this life for you? What was right? Now?

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Speaker 1: I'm a failed doctor. I thought I was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a doctor and that d because that's that's cultural right,

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Speaker 1: because you got to be a doctor or a lawyer

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Speaker 1: to be something. But I'm glad for that ded that

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Speaker 1: I got in chemistry, because you know, chemistry and science

577
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: is where dreams go to die. Often many of us,

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Speaker 1: many of us have a chemistry story about how how

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Speaker 1: we did not go right. But I'm thankful that it

580
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Speaker 1: did not go right because it pivoted me to start

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Speaker 1: my blog. The blog took on life of its own

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Speaker 1: once I graduated with with my degree. I could have

583
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Speaker 1: never even me from five years ago who was still

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Speaker 1: doing this still couldn't imagine the life that I live now.

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Speaker 1: There are times when I feel like I'm watching them movie,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm honestly my wedding day. There

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Speaker 1: was a point in the day where I'm sitting there

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Speaker 1: watching um it was at my traditional ceremony, and I'm

589
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Speaker 1: sitting on the stage now watching everything happening, and I

590
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: literally felt like I was outside my own body because

591
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Speaker 1: I was like, this feels like a film, and I

592
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: can't believe that this is my life. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: the blessings in the anointing that got me here because

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Speaker 1: I know it was more than my work. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I could have never imagined the places I find myself,

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Speaker 1: the people I'm surrounded by the love that I'm shown

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Speaker 1: us going to Cabo, I spent the whole weekend just it,

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Speaker 1: like deep gratitude. You know when you're acutely aware where

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Speaker 1: that you are living your dreams, like when you know

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Speaker 1: when you're sitting in a scene from your dream and

601
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Speaker 1: you know it. That's how it felt, and that's how

602
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Speaker 1: a lot of my life feels. I think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because I don't even think that you're I don't think

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Speaker 1: being popular or being liked was your goal. I think

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Speaker 1: you know you. I just wanted to speak facts like

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Speaker 1: and tell truth and be a truth teller. I think

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Speaker 1: same for me, Like when you get in this business,

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Speaker 1: you just want to be a truth teller. Whatever warms

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Speaker 1: your heart and get you excited and inspires you, that's

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Speaker 1: when you speak your truth. Listen. Fame has never been

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Speaker 1: a motivating factor for me. Ever, me, it scares me.

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Speaker 1: It makes me uncomfortable, Okay, it makes me uncomfortable. So

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Speaker 1: the fact that I am now visible in a particular

614
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Speaker 1: way is something that is I consider an occupational hazard

615
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Speaker 1: as oppost a purpose because it confortence so much. But

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Speaker 1: you know it comes with such a heavy responsibility. But

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Speaker 1: you know, God only gives that to those who can

618
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Speaker 1: handle it. But I can tell you now, your name

619
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: will pop up in just general conversation. I could be

620
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Speaker 1: somewhere where I don't even know somebody in but you

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Speaker 1: gotta follow, you follow, love you right, and so she

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Speaker 1: was saying, like this gospel, that's where you are right now.

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Speaker 1: Like that very crazy. I just did a podcast with

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Speaker 1: these two women. They have their own podcast. I said,

625
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Speaker 1: you guys, don't love you. I love her. She's so great.

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Speaker 1: I love I love to hear that Like people I

627
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Speaker 1: don't even know. I'm like, you know, I love you, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I love the other day, remember what

629
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Speaker 1: she had said, it is gospel. So stay where you are,

630
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Speaker 1: stay in your vision, stay focused on everything that you're

631
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Speaker 1: doing because you're not doing it for fame. You're doing

632
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Speaker 1: it because you've got to speak the gospel. And when

633
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Speaker 1: I when I go to your page every day, I'm like,

634
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Speaker 1: what she said today, that's where we are. Love. It's

635
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Speaker 1: a daily chick in. What do you what are you texting?

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Speaker 1: What are you tweeting? What are you saying? Because if

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Speaker 1: nine percent of the time is right on point? And

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Speaker 1: I hate to even bring this up, but when you

639
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Speaker 1: was talking about Trisian Thompson and you said he a

640
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Speaker 1: whole hole, a tallhole. When you called him a tall

641
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Speaker 1: hole and shared what's your group chat with you, I

642
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: was like, he is a big old ho, he a

643
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Speaker 1: tall some called him a venti hole, and I felt,

644
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: when you can start, you want to venty he's a tall,

645
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: giant hoe and you I ain't got no chill. Sometimes i'

646
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: got no chill. I didn't call that man a tall hole.

647
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: You called it tall. And then I reposted it and

648
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: everyone was in tears, like she's correct if you had

649
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: to describe what that man is. And by the way,

650
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Speaker 1: it's not like you're outdoing it. He's sharing the business

651
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: by apologize and no one is looking for this. He's

652
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: giving the information to the world. That's what nobody. It

653
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: was like. No, it's like that mean nobody, nobody, Like

654
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: we hadn't asked it. We hadn't we need to notice.

655
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: But now that we know it. And you said he

656
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: cheated on all her faces, that's where I hung up

657
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: on you, even though I wasn't talking to you. I

658
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: hung up on you when you said he was cheating

659
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Speaker 1: on all of her faces. I was like, every single

660
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Speaker 1: face he did cheat on, every every Chloe face. I

661
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: just God bless him. Okay. And by the way, sometimes

662
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: we do need that, like we need to say it

663
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: as it is, and that is who you are, Like

664
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Speaker 1: you have we have to say it as it is.

665
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I can't be that political. I can't just spit from

666
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: I can't come off like that. You got that, and

667
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: I love every part of you. For Julie, you're an

668
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Speaker 1: enabler though you you're the best of enabler. Me and

669
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Speaker 1: you together as a disaster. We went with bows to

670
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: Netflix Premier. She was like, y'all can tell me again.

671
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: We was like, what, we're useless, Yeah, we're completely it's

672
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Speaker 1: it's a good time. We will have make you have

673
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: a good time. But I do want to say to

674
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: you that you live in a world that is rarefied

675
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: here where we know who you are because your credentials

676
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: speak for itself. You are a New York Times two

677
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: times best selling author, two times and probably three times

678
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: whenever I feel like making a third and a fourth time,

679
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: when never make a fourth claim at Jesus, well, number

680
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: three is coming out in May. Tell us well, so

681
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, I wrote Professional Troublemaker to make us show

682
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: up and make the good trouble that John Lewis told

683
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: us we gotta make. And a lot of parents kept

684
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Speaker 1: on being like, I'm sharing this book with my with

685
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 1: my teenager. So I said, you know what, I'm gonna

686
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: write one for themselves. So I adapted Professional Troublemaker into

687
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Speaker 1: Rising Troublemaker. Hey adults, because I want them to get

688
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: the message now that it is to be different, not

689
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: just okay, I need you to double down or what

690
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: makes you different, because that's your superpower. I want them

691
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: to hear, like, listen, let me tell you the real

692
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: about money. Like, for example, don't get that stupid credit

693
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: card in college because you want to get the free pizza.

694
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Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it because you know we

695
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: all did. You know we all did it. Don't do it.

696
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: They're trying to get a twenty dollar gift certificate to somewhere.

697
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: You're like, what am I doing with myself? And don't

698
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: do it. I just got to write the book that

699
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I would have wanted to read when I was their age,

700
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the book that I wish I had. So this has

701
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Speaker 1: coming out May seventeen. If I can go pre order

702
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: for their teenagers twelve to seventeen year old, just would

703
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: be great. For I got three times you are times.

704
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: That's how I want this. I want this. Amen, amen, Amen, Amen.

705
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: For somebody who does social you really do it, well,

706
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you really really do and um. Our community of friends

707
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: is amazing, and we're all doing it in our own

708
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: very specific ways, and it's so encouraging when I and

709
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: I look at you and I think I really admire

710
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: her courage. What does courage look like for you you specifically?

711
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I think courage looks like continue to do myself, even

712
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: when it's sometimes feel tough, Like I'm like, I'm standing

713
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: on the island by myself. If I'm the one person

714
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: who's saying this thing. Sometimes I'm like, you know, maybe

715
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: today I should just not be so bold. Maybe I

716
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: should be quiet, you know what I mean, Maybe I

717
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: should skip that idea in that conversation. Courage looks like

718
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: me saying are you doing what you're purposed to do?

719
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: And pushing myself past the point. You know, it's hard

720
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Speaker 1: being the troublemaker. We talk about it often to be

721
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: black women who are prominent, who are bold, who talk honestly.

722
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: It's hard being us because arrows come our way so often.

723
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: We are in all sorts of firing squads, and we

724
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: just have to hope that they don't pierce our hearts

725
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: too much. So courage looks like showing up as who

726
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: we are each and every day, which is why I'm

727
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: thankful to have you, to have bows, and to have

728
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: other women who I know, I'm like, they're in their

729
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: spaces being courageous every day, and that means I gotta

730
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Speaker 1: be in my space because we at least, if we

731
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Speaker 1: ain't got nothing else, we got each other men to

732
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: say I hear you, you know, to to say I'm

733
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: so sorry that happened to you today, to say, listen,

734
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: I know it gets hard, but you've got this, you know.

735
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: That's what I see courage as continuing to be who

736
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Speaker 1: we are. You know, these women who we take a

737
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: lot of arrows, but you know, we swipe off a

738
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: lot of movie. We have these armors, but we're still

739
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: humans who are just trying to do our best. And

740
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: we care and we love, and we get heard and

741
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: we get sad, and we do all of it. It's

742
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: not impossible. Um. Troublemaker is so apropos because I think

743
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: of John Lewis and good trouble Um, and I think

744
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: of trouble is the best way to be because we're

745
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: just a mirror of what the society is, and we're

746
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: reminding you were here to stay. We will not accept

747
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: what you think is right. You have helped please understand this,

748
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: and I say this without even knowing you. You have

749
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: helped us reimagine what it looks like to be a

750
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: successful author, a black woman, an immigrant here in this country,

751
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: living your dream. You have reimagined. You have helped us

752
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: reimagine what is different, what what should be, and it

753
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: is okay for it to be. Wow. I don't know

754
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: if you see it, and I don't want you to

755
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: see it if it changes who you are. But you

756
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: are carrying us on your five ft two shows five four.

757
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I look like a whole, tiny person. He's so perfect.

758
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: She's like a doll. Guys, but you have us on

759
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: your shoulders. You got my big five tennis sitting on

760
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: your shoulders. And I am grateful for you and your

761
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: work every single day. More importantly, I'm grateful to watch

762
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: you asked them to go grab you a green KINNI. So, ladies,

763
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: as we close, I'm gonna tell you about luxuriating. So

764
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: we go to Cabo. We're celebrating Bozama St. John's birthday.

765
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: She's on the podcast. She'll be actually this podcast, your

766
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: podcast is that airing right after her? As I believe perfect,

767
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: I know perfect timing, and Lovey flew in for a

768
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Speaker 1: day because she's a box. Maybe two, I'm not for sure.

769
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Speaker 1: Today it's two quick days. She came to touchdown. She

770
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: didn't like her bikini. Let me tell you some we were.

771
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: We were in the and y'all can be man. I

772
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: don't care, but we deserve it because black women are

773
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: mother Earth and we we are mother Earth, and we

774
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: deserve to be taken care of because we don't give

775
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: ourselves that luxury and we live in our best lives.

776
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: And next thing I know, Levy, I see her talking

777
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: to our butlers, sorry because this we're there um, and

778
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: I was like, leve, you don't press the button and

779
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: sent them to go get her a whole babe into

780
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: Levy came back in a whole new, a whole new outfit,

781
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: jaming this looking amazing, and I was like, see you

782
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: know what, go ahead, troublemaker girl. You was living. He

783
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: was like, I had just sent them. How I want to?

784
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I want? I want to tell you I would have

785
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: done that. I wasn't bold enough, but I would have

786
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: done it. I was like, I love her, Should I

787
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: do it? Should I do it? I think? Look, I

788
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: didn't like my babies. I thought I saw all of

789
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: y'all because Karen was in this like pink bathing suits

790
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: two piece like she was gonna floating, drinking and just floating.

791
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: And I was saying, you know what, I need that

792
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: level of zen un luxury. So I said, you know what,

793
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: my bathe in suit it's not it's not giving what

794
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: it's supposed to get it. So I was like, oh,

795
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't even know whether they would be able

796
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: to do it. I just said I'm gonna ask them.

797
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: I said, I think bathing suits. And in the story

798
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: he's like yeah, And I said, can you go and

799
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: give me a few two pieces? This dude said. He

800
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: came back with pictures of the options and I gave

801
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I said, let me get you. Do you understand that

802
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: the type of life we lived for several days he

803
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: gave her. He took pictures and gave her options and

804
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: then went and got him in her size and each

805
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: He actually came about with two sides of each to

806
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: make sure that they fit. I said, I had been spoiled.

807
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to go back to regular life?

808
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to not be useless? Now? Okay?

809
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: How I went The next day, I came home and

810
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: went Downstius. I was looking for Oscar to hand me

811
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: a mimosa and some bacon. It was nothing. There was something.

812
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: I had to bore my own eggs, and I was mad.

813
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: I said, where's Robert? Where yo, yo? Where's the pool?

814
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Where are the ting you couzies? Where do I live?

815
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: I can't function in these and the it's the ghetto.

816
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I live like this. I can't live like this no more.

817
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to? Where's my call? Buttons? Like?

818
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: I kept go fetch my own water, like in the fridge.

819
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: But I have to say, how quickly we got so

820
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: used to the like, we got so used to the abundance.

821
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: It was like somebody said, well, the ancestors worked hard

822
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: for this. You're not wrong, You're not wrong. Okay, people

823
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: worked hard, so we can have ease. Okay, Oh good.

824
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: I love you so much and I'm gonna I'm gonna go.

825
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: But I have one more thing for people who are

826
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: looking at you. A couple of questions I got in

827
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: my d M. So I want to make sure. Okay,

828
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: everyone wants to be you right, Like they asked you,

829
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: how do you do what you do? I just want

830
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: you to give us because you said you dropped the gym,

831
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: which was you don't look for you weren't in this

832
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: game for fame. It came as a result. What's the advice?

833
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I hate that question, but God, everyone wants to know

834
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: how do I do it? How? How how I want

835
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: to be dead? Like? How do they do? What you did?

836
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: You do what you do before the awards, before the accolades,

837
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: even when nobody is watching, even when there is no

838
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: glory in it. And that's what I did. I was

839
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: writing and blogging back when it was just still playing

840
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: on the internet. I was writing and blogging with that

841
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: expectation because that's just what I felt, right like my

842
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: using my words is my purpose in this world, like

843
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: using my words to not just change hearts in mind,

844
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: make you feel joy and laugh, make them think critically.

845
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: So before the awards, before the New York Times bestsellers,

846
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I was doing it, even when I didn't know whether

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Speaker 1: I was gonna make any money, even when I was

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Speaker 1: broke and had no insurance, I was doing it. So

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Speaker 1: when people see me now, I say I'm an eighteen

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Speaker 1: year overnight success. I'm an eighteen year or overnight success.

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Speaker 1: At this point almost nineteen. So I got to this

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Speaker 1: point by doing it even when it wasn't sexy, even

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Speaker 1: when I didn't have the strategy. So whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: if you're waiting for a wars to come, they may

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Speaker 1: or may not come. It's not gonna be what chooses

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Speaker 1: the value of your work. Do the work when nobody's watching,

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Speaker 1: when it's not sexy, and then over time, because you're

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Speaker 1: practicing your work, you will get better. And because you

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Speaker 1: get better, people start noticing, and hopefully you can level up.

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Speaker 1: But do the work even when it's unsexy. Do the

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Speaker 1: work when it's not sexy. Lovey y'all, Levy Jones breaking

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Speaker 1: it all the way downtown and I love you, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Just so y'all know, I have hired two

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Speaker 1: of her mentees who now work full time for me.

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Speaker 1: And anytime I'm looking for somebody, I'm always like who

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Speaker 1: you got. And I just deeply appreciate you're making trouble

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Speaker 1: not just by showing up as yourself. You are now

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Speaker 1: helping to mold young black women so they don't show

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Speaker 1: up in the world and feel lost, so they also

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Speaker 1: don't feel like they're alone. You are creating the next

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Speaker 1: generation of people who are gonna make impact and whatever

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Speaker 1: industry they choose to be in. When I am so

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Speaker 1: excited that I'm privileged to be able to win from

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Speaker 1: them winning, I'm I'm glad I can pay them. I

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Speaker 1: am glad that I can say, you know what, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will have another mentee because carry said that person

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Speaker 1: is dope. So I just want you to know, like

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Speaker 1: Brown Girls Dream whatever, however way I can support and

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Speaker 1: your people got a pipeline with me anytime, because they

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Speaker 1: show up and they're getting them all to you. I'm

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Speaker 1: sending them all done. There's a whole internship. I might

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Speaker 1: do a b g D internship program. You need to,

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Speaker 1: you need to because they all want to work for you.

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Speaker 1: They Have'm like Levey got to she don't need no more.

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Speaker 1: A few more actually, So just so you know, Brown

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Speaker 1: Girls Dream y'all always got somewhere with me. Like when

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Speaker 1: they show up and they're a reflection of you, right,

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Speaker 1: Like they show up and they're like serious, they get

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Speaker 1: work done. They're funny, they're beautiful, they're smart, they're like

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Speaker 1: black girl magic epitomized. I'm like that Carrie is blackbol

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Speaker 1: magic epitomize. So of course it tracks. So I just

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Speaker 1: love you so much. Thank you for always making love

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Speaker 1: you too. I received all of this girl that was

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Speaker 1: a girl. That's a sermon. Oh we out here, we

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Speaker 1: change in the world, but let's do it next time. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: What I found very important about this conversation, or just

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Speaker 1: what I find important about love is she really, truly

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Speaker 1: is honest about who she is and where she lives,

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Speaker 1: which is always something that I am drawn to, meaning

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Speaker 1: like what her purpose is, what her great qualities are,

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Speaker 1: and and and what are not her great qualities. She's

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Speaker 1: very honest about that, and very few people can do that. Also,

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Speaker 1: there is something about a black woman who has been

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Speaker 1: on the New York Times list two times, not one time,

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Speaker 1: two times. I keep saying that that should strike you

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Speaker 1: as remarkable. It should strike you as someone who has

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Speaker 1: a voice for this generation. It should let you know

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Speaker 1: that what she's doing is God's work, and so many

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Speaker 1: of us have been blessed to be a part of

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Speaker 1: her work. As she's just beginning. Can you imagine started

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Speaker 1: off writing a blog. Now I'm a New York Times

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Speaker 1: bestselling author. I have so much more coming, so much

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Speaker 1: more to do. She is truly what dreams are made of.

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Speaker 1: And I salute you, lovey if you're listening, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that you all are inspired, because that's all I

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Speaker 1: try to do. See y'all next week.