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<v Speaker 1>my first. I wanted to say officially my first celebrity friend.

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<v Speaker 1>He was my first celebrity friend in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 1>I moved to Los Angeles and nineteen ninety the next

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<v Speaker 1>Guest performed every weekend five shows, Standing Up, Common Shows,

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<v Speaker 1>There is a Day on Venice Beach from nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six to nineteen ninety five. I moved out to l

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<v Speaker 1>a in ninteen ninety and was rightfully dubbed the King

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<v Speaker 1>of Venice Beach. He's built an exciting acting resume that

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<v Speaker 1>includes Blackish House Party three, nor Bit. He was funny

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<v Speaker 1>as Heck at Norbit, the Prince of the Frog, and

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<v Speaker 1>his role as Mr. Whittaker on the classic hit television

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<v Speaker 1>series Martin. He's coming on the show to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his career and it's very funny. Third book, Michael Gold's

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<v Speaker 1>Motivational Please Welcome to Money Being Conversations. My man, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>call you, Michael, call you. You know um, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's nothing but happiness and memories about our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you helped me launch my comedy club in Houston

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<v Speaker 1>and two when you come down there and perform one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big names I was able to convince to

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<v Speaker 1>come to Houston, Texas and headline my show and and

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<v Speaker 1>just but You've always been a giving guy. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I read your read your book, I understand I can

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<v Speaker 1>understand where it came from. The nature of growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago and and having less but given more. That

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<v Speaker 1>was that seemed to be the signal of your whole life. Correct, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really believe that it's all about giving.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you want to have something, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>learn to give all to all. If you give everything

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody, you don't have so much stuff, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have no place to put it. Man, and you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And so lets let's break down your family dynamic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your father, you know, let's talk about this book. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, the book I'm talking about as Michael Golds Motivational.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the third book and it's a very honest book.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about your mom relationship with your father, which

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<v Speaker 1>off the time was physical, but your mom was really

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<v Speaker 1>the physical person in that domestic relationship. You talk about

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<v Speaker 1>being wolf. They were get into battles, to get into battles.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about it was get into battles because of

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<v Speaker 1>the alcoholism, you know, and and and that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>carried over to our lives, to me and my brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we all end up having some types of addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>And our addiction began came honestly, you know, because my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was an addict and his addiction with alcoholism. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a beautiful man that we just absolutely loved.

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<v Speaker 1>But he loved that bottle man, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he could he stick his thing and that bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>That bottle was his thing, you know. And and and

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<v Speaker 1>my mother loved him. But he drink up all the profits.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, he'd come home and we wouldn't have nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be bubbling and he were one of them happy

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<v Speaker 1>drunks to those the kind of did he just drink

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<v Speaker 1>for herself, but he wants to treat everybody else. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'd be at sitting at the whole out break broke.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and them would get into a fight. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, she would she wouldn't really fight her.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd fight him, and she was five for even he

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<v Speaker 1>was six ft three. She would attack him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would never fight it. He hold up getting hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but she just she just really loved him. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to go ahead. Oh no, no, Mike, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your moment with Myra on my show Money Making

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation because it's your book and I want to promote

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<v Speaker 1>the book. I read the book. Everything's very fresh in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind because it's a very vivid book. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just some things that just stood out for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, seven years old, you know as Star foods.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those forty ounces that you would uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taken to the house first. That was your first household.

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<v Speaker 1>Your second hustle was Columbia Records Club. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>some man, you broke back so many memories. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot about Columbia Records. Man. You remember jus Man, when

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<v Speaker 1>you when I was reading your book and you came

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<v Speaker 1>up to Columbia Records Club, I went, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that you joined. They see you all these albums,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was for like eleven cents or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that wasleven cent for eleven albums. Man, it was unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then at each time I would send

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<v Speaker 1>for him, I just changed my name because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sending for the eleven albums and then I

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<v Speaker 1>take them across the street and sell them at at

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<v Speaker 1>the grade. School didn't teach us for like three dollars each,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was I was cleaning up. And then after

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<v Speaker 1>I told the first time, I'd come back and changed

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<v Speaker 1>my name. So first I do with Michael Kaye, then

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Keith, then Keith Michaels, and Keith then Kaya Michaels

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<v Speaker 1>that I changed the letters around to raylock and let

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<v Speaker 1>them relock. I did about eleven times before they finally

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<v Speaker 1>caught on, and they kept sending package in to the

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<v Speaker 1>same address and it's like, uh, we would cut that off.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a great hustle that was, brother. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I so enjoyed your book, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it was just bringing back you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>your your your car beartless saber Man, Yeah sixty seven. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know, I I in the help

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<v Speaker 1>with just keep smiling when I keep getting the different

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<v Speaker 1>sections of the book, and I was going like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this like memory lane, just talking to this and you

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<v Speaker 1>was in Chicago and I grew up in Houston, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were basically the same age, but we were still

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<v Speaker 1>living the life and enjoying moments. You know, hot water,

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<v Speaker 1>corn bread, butter milk, tim teas only thing I took

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<v Speaker 1>a fence on in your book, Man, your daddy loved

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<v Speaker 1>butter milk. I love butter milk. I couldn't do butter milk.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't butter milk, spoiled milk. It doesn't matter. You put

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<v Speaker 1>some sugar, that bad boy. You put some sugar that

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<v Speaker 1>my dad corn bread in that butter milk, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought he was a kid in the ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream store. He was just happy if he could see.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not having no butter milk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what about low on the hall did eat? I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>the peak feet on the hoghead cheese. See, I'm just chicklings.

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<v Speaker 1>See Michael, I'm just a but I love the hog

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<v Speaker 1>heead cheese good. Maybe a little bit worse than I

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<v Speaker 1>can still the childlings today. But I can't mess with

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<v Speaker 1>and crackers. I can't even mess with that. No boy

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<v Speaker 1>was come in with pigfy and apparently you had to

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<v Speaker 1>purchase some bad the pair so he would come in

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<v Speaker 1>with hairs and the hair would still be on, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he would have him wrapped in newspaper. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even like it wasn't even like Brown Butcher's paper. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just newspaper. They wrapped on me in and he's

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<v Speaker 1>come and lay him on the front room floor and

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<v Speaker 1>unopened the paper like he was opening a wonderful floral kill.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would be like four or five sets of pify.

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<v Speaker 1>I just run away from home. I just go. I

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<v Speaker 1>just run it though, and start running. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't come back to it, couldn't eating them, know. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my daddy always said my brothers to come and catch

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<v Speaker 1>me because I was always running west thinking I was

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Hollywood, but I really just going west on

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<v Speaker 1>for the third street, you know, and they always just

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<v Speaker 1>go west on pointy third. You'll get it. My brother

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<v Speaker 1>come and pick me up. Bringing home. I take my

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<v Speaker 1>wooman in week Call of the Day. That was so fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, because it's just an inch on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, I from Chicago to California Hollywood the map,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean three thousand miles. Ma, mie Man this book.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just letting everybody know I'm talking to Michael Car. Youre, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous Michael Car. Yeah, the Venice beating King Michael Car.

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<v Speaker 1>You gave his donations when they won Star Trek, A

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars Stars A Star Surgeon Michael car Um, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when I when I look at our relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just get personal right now. When I met

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<v Speaker 1>Michael car Michael Carr, you basically took me on his

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<v Speaker 1>wings because my car was famous. When I met him,

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<v Speaker 1>he was famous. Okay. He would walk up to all

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<v Speaker 1>the agencies and he he walked me in there with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could I was and after I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like learned a lot of things how to how the

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<v Speaker 1>skills that I learned later on as a man as

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<v Speaker 1>you're in doing contractors. When I was with him and

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<v Speaker 1>he would just talk and here and I just see

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<v Speaker 1>the agents and how they would react to him. I

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<v Speaker 1>was how they would put projects together. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>really inspirational just to see what you were accomplishing and

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<v Speaker 1>you was doing it. You were just doing it from

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who had a vision who came from Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and started performing on the beach. And that idea came

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<v Speaker 1>from some guys that you was watching in Chicago who

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<v Speaker 1>was doing street performing and you saw them getting money.

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<v Speaker 1>You said hey, because at the time you said you

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<v Speaker 1>never tell jokes on the street. But you saw those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys performing and the checks they were getting or

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<v Speaker 1>the cash they were getting, that changed your mind. Correct

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, exactly exactly. And then I mean because I

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<v Speaker 1>was on stages, I was getting on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>the stages, making third outs here before it ours there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they was like, oh, you should come out in

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<v Speaker 1>the street and do street performance. I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't no damn street public on the street big

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<v Speaker 1>and people to give me money. And then I still

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<v Speaker 1>watched them one day and they filled this little brown

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<v Speaker 1>bag up with money. I was like, oh lord, I

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<v Speaker 1>got the least trotted know and it changed my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nineteen, that was five, and it changed my

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<v Speaker 1>life because immediately I became one of the best street

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<v Speaker 1>performers in Chicago, and I made so much money. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, winter came and when nobody's trying to hit

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<v Speaker 1>no jokes on State Street in December, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what encouraged me to go to California. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was warm all year round, and I found Venice

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<v Speaker 1>beach Man, and I mean those nine years defined me

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<v Speaker 1>as a human being. The actually defined let's let's describe

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<v Speaker 1>exactly for people to know what was going on here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like a small crowd. You know at Venice

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<v Speaker 1>Beach and Venice Beach if you go there, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to California, gotta go to Venice Beach. It is

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<v Speaker 1>like a walking entertainment. And anything that you have heard

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<v Speaker 1>about Venice Beach, the Muscle Beach is still there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Women walking around Scanton clad in bikinis they do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they roller skating down on in bikinis, they do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thongs they do that. And you women and so so

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<v Speaker 1>so imagine me, you know, this big, huge crowd I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. I would have to say anywhere from three

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<v Speaker 1>or four hundred people, just in a big crowd, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had this young man, young man in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of them, just entertaining them. And I mean, for that

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<v Speaker 1>said what you said was about anywhere about forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it, Michael, that you was out there eight show

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<v Speaker 1>was an hour. I would do forty minutes of comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and then twenty minutes to get my money. Absolutely, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he had the little the little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like hit. He was funny. The money grab what you're

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<v Speaker 1>like the little you know, when you walk around, you

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<v Speaker 1>pick up trash off the off the ground. He had that,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, Mike, and I would I would look at

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Wow, how could he do that? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this has been as beach, so beautiful sunshine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and people have stopped what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he held them. I mean he said, come on

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<v Speaker 1>a round, come a roight ground, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden the crowd ground, and then more people will come,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then the end he got his money and

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<v Speaker 1>he went on by this business, Michael, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Man? What the amount of concentration you had

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be able to perform like that in

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<v Speaker 1>any event where Sunny's Guys, pretty women, muscle, beach food,

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<v Speaker 1>live music, other competitors out there performing on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you pull it off? And then here's the

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<v Speaker 1>funny point, I would asked mikeel Micael, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to get your spot, and he had he had the

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<v Speaker 1>same spot all the time because so he said, no, no, Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>I paid somebody they come there and get my spot earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's secure. I mostly came early on my own,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I wish I could have done that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could have paid somebody. I was too

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<v Speaker 1>stupid for that. I would come early enough, and because

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<v Speaker 1>of a funny story about that, and like just to

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<v Speaker 1>give a quick recap of him, I would go every

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday and Sunday, and I'd worked from noon until five pm,

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<v Speaker 1>roughly five when our shows, I'd be surrounded by anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>from three to seven dred people. And I did it

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<v Speaker 1>through necessity, because when I got to California, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna hit clubs and make money, and that

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<v Speaker 1>wasnot And then I went to us as beach and

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<v Speaker 1>white folks will come up and put money right in

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<v Speaker 1>the basket, and I had to steal nothing. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to cheat, to tell a couple of jokes. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I started out trying to go every single day. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do every day after but I discovered from

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<v Speaker 1>working it that the money was only there on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and the money was really only there from noon until five,

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<v Speaker 1>because after five o'clock, uh, all the white folks left

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<v Speaker 1>and took their money with him, and the brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanics would come out with bad attitudes, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really no need to stay there after that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then folks didn't show up until new coming. Now go ahead. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just I was just I was enjoying because

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking me back down because of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>everything he's said, like I said, I didn't and then

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<v Speaker 1>that seven number was not a lie all. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like people were peeping over over a people sitting the

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<v Speaker 1>top of each other's shoulders so they can see the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he was he was just surrounded and he had

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<v Speaker 1>enough space to be able to entertain himself. And then

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes now then sometimes you offer like wouldn't let other

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<v Speaker 1>people perform, and sometimes to do your set sometimes because

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<v Speaker 1>you you be not and then another artist would come along,

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<v Speaker 1>even the great Charlie Burnett, who was a great street

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<v Speaker 1>performer in New York. He came out and did it once.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two kids to your comic guys named Seymour, you

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<v Speaker 1>can think the other guy's name. And they went on

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really famous. The in Vegas now doing comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and people would come through, but you know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people was working in this beast. Then R Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>came out there for about six months before he made

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<v Speaker 1>his big hit. The boys became famous while they were

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and you know, so a lot of artists

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<v Speaker 1>came out and did their thing, and you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>the thing was to be able to stay, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to stick with it and go year after year

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<v Speaker 1>after year. So the first year I was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>figuring it out. But at the end of the first year,

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<v Speaker 1>I was teaching other people how to do it, how

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<v Speaker 1>to get their money, you know, how to collect money

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<v Speaker 1>as well as to do the work. And they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>show business, you know what I'm saying about. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't getting paid and you just out there, it's a craft,

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<v Speaker 1>just not a job. But for me, it was a job.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to also make the money, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would get people to compete with each other

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<v Speaker 1>to pay me. So I would go group by group

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, when I say up, up, you put

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<v Speaker 1>your money in the air and scream ye old, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take this money, grab on, gonna pull the

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<v Speaker 1>money out. And now if you get a bat out

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<v Speaker 1>of people, gonna plause, if you could attend, we don't cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>If you give me a point, we're gonna go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So people would pull out bigger and bigger bills to

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<v Speaker 1>get more recognition. Then I go to the second group,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I know you're not gonna take this off

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I know y'all will do better than them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would try to beat each other. It would

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<v Speaker 1>come times when sometimes crips and the blood would come

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<v Speaker 1>out and they would take different sides and try to

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<v Speaker 1>outspend each other. They start to see who could put

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<v Speaker 1>the most money in the basket. So it became a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal game, and every time I was the well because

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<v Speaker 1>I went on with you know. And the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that this summer, I'm going back out hopefully in June,

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot it as the one I was special. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>building a stage for myself that looks like a king's crown,

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<v Speaker 1>stand in the middle of that crown, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a one hour comedy show called The King of

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<v Speaker 1>Usness Beach. So right now we're in the process of

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<v Speaker 1>seeking folks to help actually come up with that funding.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna happen, and I'm shooting that. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's going to be special. Speaking to Michael Caryer,

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<v Speaker 1>he really is the King of Uness Beaches, Uh, gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>that shaped my early years or what Hollywood could be,

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<v Speaker 1>would be, It should be. We'll be back more talking

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<v Speaker 1>a very talented legendary King of Venice Beach, Michael. Call

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<v Speaker 1>you he's on Venice Beach. I I'm l a at

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<v Speaker 1>night he named. He had already been four years on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach at that time, and the crowd was already

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding him. So from the six and eighteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>he built an incredible legacy of a street performer. As

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<v Speaker 1>a street performer out there, something that started in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of Chicago. He brought it down in eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>hopped in that uh n eight sixties seven buy the

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<v Speaker 1>Sabra or that's a car with some memories right there,

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<v Speaker 1>Beuty saber Man and came on down and uh finally

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<v Speaker 1>got finally realized that inch was three thousand miles in Canyon, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and May and and and the blessings of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's go back a little bit about your family,

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<v Speaker 1>because your family shaped you, Michael, and you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it in your book, Uh, Michael goes uh motivation. You

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<v Speaker 1>talked about your oldest brother who, out of frustration, he

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<v Speaker 1>joined the army went to Vietnam. He was only sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>told it was seventeen. He went over there and became

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<v Speaker 1>a sniper. Uh. You talked about the impact of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because because it was five boys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're your father who was a trap man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>six three handsome guy. He was a tailor. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I understand, I understand. Now I understand you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at because Michael was another person that he always

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<v Speaker 1>was shop I never understand. I understand that came from

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<v Speaker 1>the family. My daddy was sharp, and so my oldest brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Jr. The one who went off to nom he

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<v Speaker 1>too was so sharp. And he was really able to

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<v Speaker 1>be sharp when he came back because being in the military,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was able to go and get these

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<v Speaker 1>clothes made from all over the world. He'd go to Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know when you can go to Korea and

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<v Speaker 1>get a nice super nine dollars, and he'd go over

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<v Speaker 1>there and he'd come back. And I mean when when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in high school and I don't wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be an actor, and so when I got out, I

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<v Speaker 1>came right to California and I stayed with my big

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<v Speaker 1>brother for a little while, and he had wall to

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<v Speaker 1>wall clothing, I mean, suits from one end of the

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<v Speaker 1>house to the other. He had shoes from one end

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<v Speaker 1>of the other, hat tennis racket and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotta do that when I'm grow up. And to

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<v Speaker 1>this day, I just loved dressing. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse or reason to dress up, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so I get it. For my dad, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a tailor and a presser. In fact, we grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the projects Chicago, Robert Taylor home for a

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<v Speaker 1>three big too South State parking band on man and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish people, the old Jewish businessman would seek my

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<v Speaker 1>father out that fixed clothes for them, to create suits

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<v Speaker 1>for them and to and to fix the clothing that

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<v Speaker 1>they had, you know, because my dad knew about clothing

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just a shop dresser and a classy cat.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, go ahead, ghad, oh no, No. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed here because this is what's in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the that the passion that you hear Michael's bars,

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<v Speaker 1>the storytelling, and so you know, at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the book he talks about, you know, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>some typos, they're gonna be some corrections of this, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that, and then then he repeats a

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>red fox joke. That's what that cracked me up. But

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it was so funny. I'm say it again right, just

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say it again. It was like, you know,

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>when I'm going to on read the book that you're doing.

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm talking to Michael carl Here the book

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about it Michael goes uh goes motivational. It's

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the third book, Michael, this book in the end because

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you get really uh spiritual, you really go to the motivation.

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I like it because of the fact

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>that I think, in other words, another for somebody to

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you why you should listen to my motivation. You

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>need to listen to my journey. And your book is

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<v Speaker 1>about a journey. Your book starts as a young kid

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>and talking about you know, your failures, you know, uh,

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, being rich several times over, a millionaire several

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>times over, and you know, and but it also shows

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>uh flaws, and I think that you you want to

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>listen to the flaws or here the flaws too, because

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>when I was talking about the beginning of my show,

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about there they're gonna be failures, and

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be my owains, They're gonna be valleys, and

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>your book is about those valleys, correct, and how you

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>how you still see both of them, because the balance

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of the universe is that there are ups and down,

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean a lot of people think that

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the road to success is linear, and rarely is it linear.

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>It's always the ups and the downs, you know. Like

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I like to say, I've been riched three times, but

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been broke fourteen. So I'm way more comfortable with

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>broke than i am. Riched me and broke, Like first

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>cousins will the first name basis, I don't make hot

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>water corn bread from scratch. I don't have make corn

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>meal much, you know, and you probably know what you

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>know much car meal much. You don't serial milk. It's national.

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>It's on the direction for corn meal. Much is on

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.439
<v Speaker 1>every box of corn meal. When you can't afford cereal,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you burial corn meal and water. You put in a

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>pinc of salt, milk and sugar and yum, yum yum.

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my parents were so poor they couldn't even

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>afford the kids. The lady Nick don't head us. That's real.

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it, and so we so

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we we knew poverty. I come from public but when

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I got to visits, I learned money because people just

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>paying me, paying me paying me, and I didn't have

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of responsibilities. All I had with cash. So

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, after I so much money and so many

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>people knew me, that's when my addiction kicked in because I,

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, Robin Williams said, the best cocaine is

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>God's way of saying you're making too much of damn money.

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I end up started slow like most people.

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>A little weed, did a little blow. Then I found

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that crack rocket, and oh oh oh, you know, I

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>end up spending twenty three years in a crack addiction.

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So as of two Sundays ago, as of March first,

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I now have nine years of pure sobriety. But I

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you I lost more friends, more jobs, and more

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>opportunities than I can't even name because of my addiction.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I am certain that you recognize at my

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>addiction in a meeting I had with you, a very

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>important lunch meeting with you, and I had been getting

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>hot all the night before. But see, people who are

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>are drugs, they don't think nobody can tell they're getting

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:17.239
<v Speaker 1>hot but them when they're getting hot. And I showed up,

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I cleaned up, I freshened up, and I was sitting

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>there talking to you, and I know I was sweating

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like a Kelly in the playground and it wasn't even

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that hot. And I know you was wondering, why is

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>this sweating like that? Or maybe you wasn't wondering, maybe

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you knew that the symptoms of that dance that I

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was doing that threw my my whole game office track,

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. And sometimes though you have to the only

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>way you can get around the thing to go through it.

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Well, that's what you've done,

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and you you're absolutely correct when you said that, Michael,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>is that you know the journey. And that's why I

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>tell people I'm fortunate to see and be a part

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of his life and know that when when when you talk,

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's about twenty three years of hell and twenty three

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>years of trying to find himself in twenty three years

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>of making mistakes and being addiction. That's where the god

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that's why the book is important because he talks about

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>his father's addiction to alcohol. It's not something that that

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know that he wanted. Sometimes you know, when we've

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>learned that through science, that that is that is part

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>of that can be like a gene trade in you,

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's something you have to be. If you're aware

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>of it, then you then you can you look forward.

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>But when you when you're growing, that lifestyle was it

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>was so normal to see your dad even though he

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>was he was a tailor, very skilled person, but he

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>liked he liked being like so when the hang out

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>with people who buy them drinks, and the money didn't

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>come home because guess what, everybody at the club or

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 1>the night at the bar, it had a better experience

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was gonna bring home financially, and so money

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't come home, come come And that's that's why your

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>book was just so so appealing to me. And it

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was such relatable. Whatever when I talk about what you're

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about, your mom was working at Spiegel magazine imazine.

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>When I was so Spiegel Magazine, I said, boy, I said,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>if I could hit him, if I could be next time?

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>He didn't say, because because here's it. Here is it

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I find relatable When you start talking

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>about tasty freeze, you know, going that taste free let's

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>go back to feel. So do you remember the Spiegel catalog,

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Come on now, Michael, Michael in the back page would

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>be all pictures of little puppies that you could buy. Yes, speak,

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I love the Spiegel and the toy

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>section out of this world, you know. I don't think

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I ever got any of it, but I love looking

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>at them every I could wait for the Christmas issue

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Spiegel magazine, Man and Tasty Freeze. What you

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>know about Tasty Freeze? You need? There were two great

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>magazines when we came up. It was Sears Magazine and

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it was Spiegel Magazine. Now the Speaker Magazine a little

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>bit more fashionable. You know, Littley was lot as thick

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>as the Series magazine. But that Speagle Magazine, I think

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that was bigger in the in the in the black community.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>To speak on magazine was our magazine. It was our magazine,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, that was our magazine, Man, And we look

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>forward to that. Man. That was that was online shopping

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>before it was than You look at that magazine that

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>people catalogs have yet to have stuff that was in there.

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it meant a lot to me. That

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>my mama's first job, you know, and and that and

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and that was the beginning of her liberation as well,

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, because she had to leave my dad, and

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have to leave the coach. She didn't love him.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>She loved my father and he loved us. But my

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>mother wanted more for her boys. He didn't want us

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to spend the rest of our lives in the project.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>She just wanted more for us than was really, really

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>deep that I found out and writing this book with Shawn,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, I it's a it's a journey

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of self discovery. There was so much stuff about my

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>own family that I didn't know until I started writing

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>this book. Question I didn't know. I mean, my mother

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>ended up marrying Walter Smith, who was my stepfather, but

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that he was her first high school sweetheart,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that she took her to her first prim he did

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to block away from her. He was so deeply in

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>love with her that he asked her father for her

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>hand in marriage when she was sixteen, and he said no, no,

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>she's too young, and so he went away and joined

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the navy, and while he was god, my mama ran

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>into my father, or he must have run into her

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>several times, because she up and get pregnant and that

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was it for Walter Smith. Walter Smith was out of

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>her life. My mother went on to have four more

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>kids by my father. They had five kids. Twenty five

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>years later, when my mom was trying to get her

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>life together, she the Winter Spiegels. She the man enough

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>money to finally go to Sears Driving School and learn

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>how to drive. She went and bought our first car,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a Woodie, and she took that car to get in

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>service then Robin's Illinois. And you know, when you get

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>your car service, you're sitting in the back after they

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>sending it back, and they watched it when she went

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>back to get the car. Watched and who do you

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think is watching the car? High school sweetheart, Walter Smith.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And all I could think of is what went through

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>my mama's head. And she watched Walter rubbing and soping

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and sooping and rubbing that car. I mean, they kicked

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it off like that. Twenty years had never passed, and

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the next thing, you know, they were a couple again.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>She went on and told my father all best foot

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>all she was getting to divorce and marrying Walter Smith.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And so she stayed with my dad for twenty five years,

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then she married her high school sweetheart.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>When she stayed with until his death, you know. And

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he was a great stepfather. And we loved my father,

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, but we also understood what was going on.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>We watched this that was and we watched the constom

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>fighting and my mother crying. We watched my father comes

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>staggering in the house and the mother didn't come home.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>We watched all of that, and we loved my dad.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, maybe six months after they got divorced,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>my father up and died yea fifty one. And I

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>thought at first that it was from the complications from

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the diabetes. You know what y' all called the sugar

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>because he had diabetes and he should have been drinking

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>at all, but he drinking fit the booze a day

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>and spoke through that pack of pal Mail series, and

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>so I thought, it's hardly explode in his check. But

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>when I think about it more, I am certain that

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he died of a broken heart. He just loved my mother, man,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and she loved him too, But she wanted more for

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>her kids, man, you know, And sometimes the thing is

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>over is over, and you gotta move on, man. You know.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the beauty of this book is that it's a journey.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's I was just look there, because who's all air?

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>He has the book about that whole ten year run

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>on Venis Beach, because that's another book. That's another book.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>But this book, Yeah, the book is delivering to us

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>called Michael Gets Motivation, Ghost Motivational. Excuse me, ghost Motivational.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Michael tell us how we can buy that book. First

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of all, for our going to my little well, you know,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and next week is supposed to go on steale through Amazon,

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. But until then, you guys can always go

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to my web page, which is a very sexy web page.

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It's called the Real Michael Collier dot com and the

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Real Michael dot com. The web page opens up, you know,

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a play, as you know, uh, the similar

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to the book, and it's called Michael Cowers Mama, and

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's my whole journey and I'm doing a hundred

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>city tour of that. So if you go on the

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>web page, you can hit a tab called Mama and

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it will open up and it'll show you scenes from

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>the play. It will show six minutes of the play

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and the story of the play. But it's all for

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a store. And if you go to the store, it

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>has the book it all has all three of my books.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling all kind of stuff. I got T shirts,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm selling everything, and on this white sofa all kicked

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>back and got the hat on sexy. You know you're sexy.

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>That's for show. I'm looking at the cover. That a great,

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>great code a T shirt underneath with the it's a

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>grade A silver coach jacket you got on that Michael

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Golds motivational. I love it. Right. You could go on

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and buy books, t shirts, everything from the page. And

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you know you can hire me from that page. Just

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>work and say what you want. But I love my

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<v Speaker 1>web page. I love I love the baby at a pump.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about. Mike. You know, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for taking your time to come on my show man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um it's a it's a blessing to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we could still have this conversation today. It's a blessing

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<v Speaker 1>is allowed me to get that book in time for

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<v Speaker 1>me to read it, to share my emotions that it

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<v Speaker 1>takes from your from your your journey. I've gotta thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let me take a moment to thank you, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because you really read this book, and you really know

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<v Speaker 1>this book, and there are those who will make me

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<v Speaker 1>think that this book as But most people have watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>read it, and they know it's it's really a good story.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's a journey. And like you said about life,

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<v Speaker 1>life is a journey. It's not a quick it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a trip so quick tripping. It's a journey to Some

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<v Speaker 1>people say to me, man, that the universe has cursed me.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people said the universe is to bless me. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do either one. The universe responds to your vibrations.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever you're sending out is what the universe sends

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<v Speaker 1>back to you. So it's called Michael Golds Motivational because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to motivate people through comedy, you know it

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<v Speaker 1>to a comedic form. Because I'm also doing motivational speaking

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<v Speaker 1>around the country. And you reading the book and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>those details and loving it and knowing the wonderful journey

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<v Speaker 1>it is that means the world to me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>watched you, young man, come from putting your club together

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<v Speaker 1>to making your club on the coldest clubs out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and and taking it from that to becoming one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest managers and creators of talent to this town

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<v Speaker 1>of matter fact this country as of a scene. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, I salute you, and I appreciate you. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. You made not just my day,

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<v Speaker 1>you made my year. Brother. Thank you, my friend, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get that better to me because we're gonna promote

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<v Speaker 1>it on my social media go almost a million followers,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna do you well, my friend, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as promote this on our podcast and also might syndicate

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