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The 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to listen to. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: That about career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, the ship, 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: overcoming the odds, and how to live a balance life. 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: My next guest, Wow, very happy to have him on 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: the show. My next guest, I would like to say 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: my first. I wanted to say officially my first celebrity friend. 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: He was my first celebrity friend in Los Angeles and 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: I moved to Los Angeles and nineteen ninety the next 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Guest performed every weekend five shows, Standing Up, Common Shows, 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: There is a Day on Venice Beach from nineteen eighty 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: six to nineteen ninety five. I moved out to l 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: a in ninteen ninety and was rightfully dubbed the King 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: of Venice Beach. He's built an exciting acting resume that 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: includes Blackish House Party three, nor Bit. He was funny 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: as Heck at Norbit, the Prince of the Frog, and 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: his role as Mr. Whittaker on the classic hit television 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: series Martin. He's coming on the show to talk about 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: his career and it's very funny. Third book, Michael Gold's 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Motivational Please Welcome to Money Being Conversations. My man, Michael, 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: call you, Michael, call you. You know um, you know this, 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: It's it's it's nothing but happiness and memories about our relationship. 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Or you helped me launch my comedy club in Houston 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and two when you come down there and perform one 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: of the big names I was able to convince to 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: come to Houston, Texas and headline my show and and 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: just but You've always been a giving guy. And when 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: I read your read your book, I understand I can 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: understand where it came from. The nature of growing up 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: in Chicago and and having less but given more. That 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: was that seemed to be the signal of your whole life. Correct, Yeah, yeah, 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I really believe that it's all about giving. 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, if you want to have something, you gotta 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: learn to give all to all. If you give everything 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to everybody, you don't have so much stuff, you don't 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: have no place to put it. Man, and you didn't. 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: And so lets let's break down your family dynamic. You know, 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: your father, you know, let's talk about this book. First 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: of all, the book I'm talking about as Michael Golds Motivational. 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: It's the third book and it's a very honest book. 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: You talk about your mom relationship with your father, which 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: off the time was physical, but your mom was really 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the physical person in that domestic relationship. You talk about 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: being wolf. They were get into battles, to get into battles. 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: You talk about it was get into battles because of 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: the alcoholism, you know, and and and that's something that 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: carried over to our lives, to me and my brothers. 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, we all end up having some types of addiction. 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: And our addiction began came honestly, you know, because my 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: dad was an addict and his addiction with alcoholism. And 84 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: he was just a beautiful man that we just absolutely loved. 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: But he loved that bottle man, you know. And I 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: mean he could he stick his thing and that bottle. 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: That bottle was his thing, you know. And and and 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: my mother loved him. But he drink up all the profits. 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: So you know, he'd come home and we wouldn't have nothing. 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: He'd be bubbling and he were one of them happy 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: drunks to those the kind of did he just drink 92 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: for herself, but he wants to treat everybody else. So 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: we'd be at sitting at the whole out break broke. 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: My mom and them would get into a fight. But 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: like I said, she would she wouldn't really fight her. 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: She'd fight him, and she was five for even he 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: was six ft three. She would attack him, you know, 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: and he would never fight it. He hold up getting hurt, 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: but she just she just really loved him. Go ahead, 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go ahead. Oh no, no, Mike, this 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: is your moment with Myra on my show Money Making 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Conversation because it's your book and I want to promote 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: the book. I read the book. Everything's very fresh in 104 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: my mind because it's a very vivid book. You know. 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Let me just some things that just stood out for me. 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: You know, seven years old, you know as Star foods. 107 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: You know those forty ounces that you would uh, you know, 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: taken to the house first. That was your first household. 109 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: Your second hustle was Columbia Records Club. I'll tell you 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: some man, you broke back so many memories. Man, I 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: forgot about Columbia Records. Man. You remember jus Man, when 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: you when I was reading your book and you came 113 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: up to Columbia Records Club, I went, oh my god, 114 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: I remember that you joined. They see you all these albums, 115 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: and then it was for like eleven cents or something 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: like that wasleven cent for eleven albums. Man, it was unbelievable, 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: you know. And then at each time I would send 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: for him, I just changed my name because you know, 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I was sending for the eleven albums and then I 120 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: take them across the street and sell them at at 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: the grade. School didn't teach us for like three dollars each, 122 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: so I was I was cleaning up. And then after 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I told the first time, I'd come back and changed 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: my name. So first I do with Michael Kaye, then 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: Michael Keith, then Keith Michaels, and Keith then Kaya Michaels 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: that I changed the letters around to raylock and let 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: them relock. I did about eleven times before they finally 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: caught on, and they kept sending package in to the 129 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: same address and it's like, uh, we would cut that off. 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: But what a great hustle that was, brother. But this 131 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: is why I so enjoyed your book, because of the 132 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: fact that it was just bringing back you know, your 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: your your your car beartless saber Man, Yeah sixty seven. Brother. 134 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I I in the help 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: with just keep smiling when I keep getting the different 136 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: sections of the book, and I was going like, man, 137 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: this like memory lane, just talking to this and you 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: was in Chicago and I grew up in Houston, but 139 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: we were basically the same age, but we were still 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: living the life and enjoying moments. You know, hot water, 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: corn bread, butter milk, tim teas only thing I took 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: a fence on in your book, Man, your daddy loved 143 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: butter milk. I love butter milk. I couldn't do butter milk. 144 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Ain't butter milk, spoiled milk. It doesn't matter. You put 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: some sugar, that bad boy. You put some sugar that 146 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: my dad corn bread in that butter milk, and you 147 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: would have thought he was a kid in the ice 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: cream store. He was just happy if he could see. 149 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not having no butter milk. Now, 150 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: what about low on the hall did eat? I'm just 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: the peak feet on the hoghead cheese. See, I'm just chicklings. 152 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: See Michael, I'm just a but I love the hog 153 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: heead cheese good. Maybe a little bit worse than I 154 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: can still the childlings today. But I can't mess with 155 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: and crackers. I can't even mess with that. No boy 156 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: was come in with pigfy and apparently you had to 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: purchase some bad the pair so he would come in 158 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: with hairs and the hair would still be on, and 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: that he would have him wrapped in newspaper. It wasn't 160 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: even like it wasn't even like Brown Butcher's paper. It 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: was just newspaper. They wrapped on me in and he's 162 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: come and lay him on the front room floor and 163 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: unopened the paper like he was opening a wonderful floral kill. 164 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: And it would be like four or five sets of pify. 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: I just run away from home. I just go. I 166 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: just run it though, and start running. You know, I 167 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't come back to it, couldn't eating them, know. You know, 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: my daddy always said my brothers to come and catch 169 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: me because I was always running west thinking I was 170 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: coming to Hollywood, but I really just going west on 171 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: for the third street, you know, and they always just 172 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: go west on pointy third. You'll get it. My brother 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: come and pick me up. Bringing home. I take my 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: wooman in week Call of the Day. That was so fun, 175 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: you said, because it's just an inch on the map. 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: So I thought, I from Chicago to California Hollywood the map, 177 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean three thousand miles. Ma, mie Man this book. 178 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: I was just letting everybody know I'm talking to Michael Car. Youre, uh, 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: the famous Michael Car. Yeah, the Venice beating King Michael Car. 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: You gave his donations when they won Star Trek, A 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Star Wars Stars A Star Surgeon Michael car Um, Michael, 182 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: you know when I when I look at our relationship, 183 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I would just get personal right now. When I met 184 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Michael car Michael Carr, you basically took me on his 185 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: wings because my car was famous. When I met him, 186 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: he was famous. Okay. He would walk up to all 187 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: the agencies and he he walked me in there with him, 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: and I could I was and after I kind of 189 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: like learned a lot of things how to how the 190 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: skills that I learned later on as a man as 191 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: you're in doing contractors. When I was with him and 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: he would just talk and here and I just see 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the agents and how they would react to him. I 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: was how they would put projects together. And it was 195 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: really inspirational just to see what you were accomplishing and 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: you was doing it. You were just doing it from 197 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: a guy who had a vision who came from Chicago 198 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and started performing on the beach. And that idea came 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: from some guys that you was watching in Chicago who 200 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: was doing street performing and you saw them getting money. 201 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: You said hey, because at the time you said you 202 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: never tell jokes on the street. But you saw those 203 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: two guys performing and the checks they were getting or 204 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: the cash they were getting, that changed your mind. Correct 205 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: in Chicago, exactly exactly. And then I mean because I 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: was on stages, I was getting on a little bit 207 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: the stages, making third outs here before it ours there, 208 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and they was like, oh, you should come out in 209 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: the street and do street performance. I was like, dude, 210 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: I ain't no damn street public on the street big 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: and people to give me money. And then I still 212 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: watched them one day and they filled this little brown 213 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: bag up with money. I was like, oh lord, I 214 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: got the least trotted know and it changed my entire life. 215 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: That was nineteen, that was five, and it changed my 216 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: life because immediately I became one of the best street 217 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: performers in Chicago, and I made so much money. Then, 218 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, winter came and when nobody's trying to hit 219 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: no jokes on State Street in December, you know. So 220 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: that's what encouraged me to go to California. I thought 221 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: it was warm all year round, and I found Venice 222 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: beach Man, and I mean those nine years defined me 223 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: as a human being. The actually defined let's let's describe 224 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: exactly for people to know what was going on here. Okay, 225 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't like a small crowd. You know at Venice 226 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Beach and Venice Beach if you go there, if you 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: go to California, gotta go to Venice Beach. It is 228 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: like a walking entertainment. And anything that you have heard 229 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: about Venice Beach, the Muscle Beach is still there. Okay. 230 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Women walking around Scanton clad in bikinis they do that. Okay, 231 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: they roller skating down on in bikinis, they do that. Okay, 232 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: thongs they do that. And you women and so so 233 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: so imagine me, you know, this big, huge crowd I'm 234 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: talking about. I would have to say anywhere from three 235 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: or four hundred people, just in a big crowd, and 236 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: he had this young man, young man in the middle 237 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: of them, just entertaining them. And I mean, for that 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: said what you said was about anywhere about forty minutes, 239 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: wasn't it, Michael, that you was out there eight show 240 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: was an hour. I would do forty minutes of comedy 241 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: and then twenty minutes to get my money. Absolutely, that's right. 242 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: And then he had the little the little you know, 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: like hit. He was funny. The money grab what you're 244 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: like the little you know, when you walk around, you 245 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: pick up trash off the off the ground. He had that, 246 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I remember, Mike, and I would I would look at 247 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: this guy, Wow, how could he do that? Because I'm 248 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: talking about this has been as beach, so beautiful sunshine, 249 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, and people have stopped what they were doing, 250 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: and he held them. I mean he said, come on 251 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: a round, come a roight ground, and all of a 252 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: sudden the crowd ground, and then more people will come, 253 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: and then then the end he got his money and 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: he went on by this business, Michael, how did you 255 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: do it? Man? What the amount of concentration you had 256 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: to have to be able to perform like that in 257 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: any event where Sunny's Guys, pretty women, muscle, beach food, 258 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: live music, other competitors out there performing on the streets. 259 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: How did you pull it off? And then here's the 260 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: funny point, I would asked mikeel Micael, because you have 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: to get your spot, and he had he had the 262 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: same spot all the time because so he said, no, no, Shane, 263 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: I paid somebody they come there and get my spot earlier, 264 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: so it's secure. I mostly came early on my own, 265 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: you know. I wish I could have done that one. 266 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I wish I could have paid somebody. I was too 267 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: stupid for that. I would come early enough, and because 268 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: of a funny story about that, and like just to 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: give a quick recap of him, I would go every 270 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, and I'd worked from noon until five pm, 271 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: roughly five when our shows, I'd be surrounded by anywhere 272 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: from three to seven dred people. And I did it 273 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: through necessity, because when I got to California, I thought 274 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna hit clubs and make money, and that 275 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: wasnot And then I went to us as beach and 276 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: white folks will come up and put money right in 277 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: the basket, and I had to steal nothing. I had 278 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: to cheat, to tell a couple of jokes. And so 279 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I started out trying to go every single day. I 280 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: tried to do every day after but I discovered from 281 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: working it that the money was only there on the weekend, 282 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: and the money was really only there from noon until five, 283 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: because after five o'clock, uh, all the white folks left 284 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and took their money with him, and the brothers and 285 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Hispanics would come out with bad attitudes, and so it 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: wasn't really no need to stay there after that, and 287 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: then folks didn't show up until new coming. Now go ahead. Now, 288 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I was just I was just I was enjoying because 289 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: you're taking me back down because of the fact that 290 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: everything he's said, like I said, I didn't and then 291 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: that seven number was not a lie all. It was 292 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: like people were peeping over over a people sitting the 293 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: top of each other's shoulders so they can see the show. 294 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Because he was he was just surrounded and he had 295 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: enough space to be able to entertain himself. And then 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: sometimes now then sometimes you offer like wouldn't let other 297 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: people perform, and sometimes to do your set sometimes because 298 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: you you be not and then another artist would come along, 299 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: even the great Charlie Burnett, who was a great street 300 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: performer in New York. He came out and did it once. 301 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: There's two kids to your comic guys named Seymour, you 302 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: can think the other guy's name. And they went on 303 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: and they're really famous. The in Vegas now doing comedy 304 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: and people would come through, but you know a lot 305 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: of people was working in this beast. Then R Kelly 306 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: came out there for about six months before he made 307 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: his big hit. The boys became famous while they were 308 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: out there, and you know, so a lot of artists 309 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: came out and did their thing, and you know, but 310 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: the thing was to be able to stay, to be 311 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: able to stick with it and go year after year 312 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: after year. So the first year I was sort of 313 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: figuring it out. But at the end of the first year, 314 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I was teaching other people how to do it, how 315 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: to get their money, you know, how to collect money 316 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: as well as to do the work. And they didn't 317 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: show business, you know what I'm saying about. If you 318 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: ain't getting paid and you just out there, it's a craft, 319 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: just not a job. But for me, it was a job. 320 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: So I had to also make the money, you know. 321 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: And I would get people to compete with each other 322 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: to pay me. So I would go group by group 323 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: and I say, when I say up, up, you put 324 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: your money in the air and scream ye old, And 325 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this money, grab on, gonna pull the 326 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: money out. And now if you get a bat out 327 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: of people, gonna plause, if you could attend, we don't cheer. 328 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: If you give me a point, we're gonna go crazy. 329 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: So people would pull out bigger and bigger bills to 330 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: get more recognition. Then I go to the second group, 331 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I say, I know you're not gonna take this off 332 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: of them. I know y'all will do better than them. 333 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: So they would try to beat each other. It would 334 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: come times when sometimes crips and the blood would come 335 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: out and they would take different sides and try to 336 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: outspend each other. They start to see who could put 337 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the most money in the basket. So it became a 338 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: phenomenal game, and every time I was the well because 339 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I went on with you know. And the thing is 340 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: that this summer, I'm going back out hopefully in June, 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: to shoot it as the one I was special. I'm 342 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: building a stage for myself that looks like a king's crown, 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: stand in the middle of that crown, and I'm gonna 344 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: do a one hour comedy show called The King of 345 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Usness Beach. So right now we're in the process of 346 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: seeking folks to help actually come up with that funding. 347 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: But it's gonna happen, and I'm shooting that. You know 348 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: that that's going to be special. Speaking to Michael Caryer, 349 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: he really is the King of Uness Beaches, Uh, gentleman, 350 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: that shaped my early years or what Hollywood could be, 351 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: would be, It should be. 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That's O T T 387 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. Hi. This is Rashan McDonald and 388 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversations on the phone with 389 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: a very talented legendary King of Venice Beach, Michael. Call 390 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you he's on Venice Beach. I I'm l a at 391 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: night he named. He had already been four years on 392 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: the beach at that time, and the crowd was already 393 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: surrounding him. So from the six and eighteen eighty five 394 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: he built an incredible legacy of a street performer. As 395 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: a street performer out there, something that started in the 396 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: streets of Chicago. He brought it down in eighty five, 397 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: hopped in that uh n eight sixties seven buy the 398 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Sabra or that's a car with some memories right there, 399 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Beuty saber Man and came on down and uh finally 400 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: got finally realized that inch was three thousand miles in Canyon, California, 401 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: and and and May and and and the blessings of it. 402 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: But let's go back a little bit about your family, 403 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: because your family shaped you, Michael, and you talk about 404 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: it in your book, Uh, Michael goes uh motivation. You 405 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: talked about your oldest brother who, out of frustration, he 406 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: joined the army went to Vietnam. He was only sixteen, 407 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: told it was seventeen. He went over there and became 408 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: a sniper. Uh. You talked about the impact of uh, 409 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, because because it was five boys. You know, 410 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: you're your father who was a trap man. You know, 411 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: six three handsome guy. He was a tailor. You know. 412 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: So now I understand, I understand. Now I understand you're 413 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: looking at because Michael was another person that he always 414 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: was shop I never understand. I understand that came from 415 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: the family. My daddy was sharp, and so my oldest brother, 416 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Dave Jr. The one who went off to nom he 417 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: too was so sharp. And he was really able to 418 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: be sharp when he came back because being in the military, 419 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, he was able to go and get these 420 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: clothes made from all over the world. He'd go to Korea, 421 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: and you know when you can go to Korea and 422 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: get a nice super nine dollars, and he'd go over 423 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: there and he'd come back. And I mean when when 424 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I was in high school and I don't wanted to 425 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: be an actor, and so when I got out, I 426 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: came right to California and I stayed with my big 427 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: brother for a little while, and he had wall to 428 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: wall clothing, I mean, suits from one end of the 429 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: house to the other. He had shoes from one end 430 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: of the other, hat tennis racket and I was like, oh, 431 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: I've gotta do that when I'm grow up. And to 432 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: this day, I just loved dressing. I can't wait for 433 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: an excuse or reason to dress up, you know, And 434 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, so I get it. For my dad, it 435 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: was a tailor and a presser. In fact, we grew 436 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: up in the projects Chicago, Robert Taylor home for a 437 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: three big too South State parking band on man and 438 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the Jewish people, the old Jewish businessman would seek my 439 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: father out that fixed clothes for them, to create suits 440 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: for them and to and to fix the clothing that 441 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: they had, you know, because my dad knew about clothing 442 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: and he was just a shop dresser and a classy cat. 443 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, go ahead, ghad, oh no, No. The reason 444 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I enjoyed here because this is what's in the book. 445 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: This is the that the passion that you hear Michael's bars, 446 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: the storytelling, and so you know, at the beginning of 447 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: the book he talks about, you know, it's gonna be 448 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: some typos, they're gonna be some corrections of this, but 449 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: don't worry about that, and then then he repeats a 450 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: red fox joke. That's what that cracked me up. But 451 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: it was so funny. I'm say it again right, just 452 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to say it again. It was like, you know, 453 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: when I'm going to on read the book that you're doing. 454 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking to Michael carl Here the book 455 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it Michael goes uh goes motivational. It's 456 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: the third book, Michael, this book in the end because 457 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: you get really uh spiritual, you really go to the motivation. 458 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: And the reason I like it because of the fact 459 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: that I think, in other words, another for somebody to 460 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: tell you why you should listen to my motivation. You 461 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: need to listen to my journey. And your book is 462 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: about a journey. Your book starts as a young kid 463 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: and talking about you know, your failures, you know, uh, 464 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, being rich several times over, a millionaire several 465 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: times over, and you know, and but it also shows 466 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: uh flaws, and I think that you you want to 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: listen to the flaws or here the flaws too, because 468 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: when I was talking about the beginning of my show, 469 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: I was talking about there they're gonna be failures, and 470 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: they're gonna be my owains, They're gonna be valleys, and 471 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: your book is about those valleys, correct, and how you 472 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: how you still see both of them, because the balance 473 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: of the universe is that there are ups and down, 474 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean a lot of people think that 475 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the road to success is linear, and rarely is it linear. 476 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: It's always the ups and the downs, you know. Like 477 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: I like to say, I've been riched three times, but 478 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I've been broke fourteen. So I'm way more comfortable with 479 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: broke than i am. Riched me and broke, Like first 480 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: cousins will the first name basis, I don't make hot 481 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: water corn bread from scratch. I don't have make corn 482 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: meal much, you know, and you probably know what you 483 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: know much car meal much. You don't serial milk. It's national. 484 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: It's on the direction for corn meal. Much is on 485 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: every box of corn meal. When you can't afford cereal, 486 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: you burial corn meal and water. You put in a 487 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: pinc of salt, milk and sugar and yum, yum yum. 488 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean, my parents were so poor they couldn't even 489 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: afford the kids. The lady Nick don't head us. That's real. 490 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, and so we so 491 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: we we knew poverty. I come from public but when 492 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: I got to visits, I learned money because people just 493 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: paying me, paying me paying me, and I didn't have 494 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of responsibilities. All I had with cash. So 495 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, after I so much money and so many 496 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: people knew me, that's when my addiction kicked in because I, 497 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: like I said, Robin Williams said, the best cocaine is 498 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: God's way of saying you're making too much of damn money. 499 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: And so I end up started slow like most people. 500 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: A little weed, did a little blow. Then I found 501 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: that crack rocket, and oh oh oh, you know, I 502 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: end up spending twenty three years in a crack addiction. 503 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: So as of two Sundays ago, as of March first, 504 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: I now have nine years of pure sobriety. But I 505 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: guarantee you I lost more friends, more jobs, and more 506 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: opportunities than I can't even name because of my addiction. 507 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: In fact, I am certain that you recognize at my 508 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: addiction in a meeting I had with you, a very 509 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: important lunch meeting with you, and I had been getting 510 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: hot all the night before. But see, people who are 511 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: are drugs, they don't think nobody can tell they're getting 512 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: hot but them when they're getting hot. And I showed up, 513 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I cleaned up, I freshened up, and I was sitting 514 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: there talking to you, and I know I was sweating 515 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: like a Kelly in the playground and it wasn't even 516 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: that hot. And I know you was wondering, why is 517 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: this sweating like that? Or maybe you wasn't wondering, maybe 518 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: you knew that the symptoms of that dance that I 519 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: was doing that threw my my whole game office track, 520 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes though you have to the only 521 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: way you can get around the thing to go through it. 522 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, that's what you've done, 523 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and you you're absolutely correct when you said that, Michael, 524 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: is that you know the journey. And that's why I 525 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: tell people I'm fortunate to see and be a part 526 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: of his life and know that when when when you talk, 527 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: it's about twenty three years of hell and twenty three 528 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: years of trying to find himself in twenty three years 529 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: of making mistakes and being addiction. That's where the god 530 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: that's why the book is important because he talks about 531 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: his father's addiction to alcohol. It's not something that that 532 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: you know that he wanted. Sometimes you know, when we've 533 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: learned that through science, that that is that is part 534 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: of that can be like a gene trade in you, 535 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: and it's something you have to be. If you're aware 536 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: of it, then you then you can you look forward. 537 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: But when you when you're growing, that lifestyle was it 538 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: was so normal to see your dad even though he 539 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: was he was a tailor, very skilled person, but he 540 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: liked he liked being like so when the hang out 541 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: with people who buy them drinks, and the money didn't 542 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: come home because guess what, everybody at the club or 543 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: the night at the bar, it had a better experience 544 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and he was gonna bring home financially, and so money 545 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't come home, come come And that's that's why your 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: book was just so so appealing to me. And it 547 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: was such relatable. Whatever when I talk about what you're 548 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: talking about, your mom was working at Spiegel magazine imazine. 549 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: When I was so Spiegel Magazine, I said, boy, I said, 550 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: if I could hit him, if I could be next time? 551 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: He didn't say, because because here's it. Here is it 552 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: the thing that I find relatable When you start talking 553 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: about tasty freeze, you know, going that taste free let's 554 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: go back to feel. So do you remember the Spiegel catalog, 555 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: Come on now, Michael, Michael in the back page would 556 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: be all pictures of little puppies that you could buy. Yes, speak, 557 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love the Spiegel and the toy 558 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: section out of this world, you know. I don't think 559 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I ever got any of it, but I love looking 560 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: at them every I could wait for the Christmas issue 561 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: of the Spiegel magazine, Man and Tasty Freeze. What you 562 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: know about Tasty Freeze? You need? There were two great 563 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: magazines when we came up. It was Sears Magazine and 564 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: it was Spiegel Magazine. Now the Speaker Magazine a little 565 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: bit more fashionable. You know, Littley was lot as thick 566 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: as the Series magazine. But that Speagle Magazine, I think 567 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: that was bigger in the in the in the black community. 568 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: To speak on magazine was our magazine. It was our magazine, 569 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, that was our magazine, Man, And we look 570 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: forward to that. Man. That was that was online shopping 571 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: before it was than You look at that magazine that 572 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: people catalogs have yet to have stuff that was in there. 573 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it meant a lot to me. That 574 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: my mama's first job, you know, and and that and 575 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: and that was the beginning of her liberation as well, 576 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, because she had to leave my dad, and 577 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: she didn't have to leave the coach. She didn't love him. 578 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: She loved my father and he loved us. But my 579 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: mother wanted more for her boys. He didn't want us 580 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: to spend the rest of our lives in the project. 581 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: She just wanted more for us than was really, really 582 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: deep that I found out and writing this book with Shawn, 583 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I it's a it's a journey 584 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: of self discovery. There was so much stuff about my 585 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: own family that I didn't know until I started writing 586 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: this book. Question I didn't know. I mean, my mother 587 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: ended up marrying Walter Smith, who was my stepfather, but 588 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was her first high school sweetheart, 589 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: that she took her to her first prim he did 590 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: to block away from her. He was so deeply in 591 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: love with her that he asked her father for her 592 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: hand in marriage when she was sixteen, and he said no, no, 593 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: she's too young, and so he went away and joined 594 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: the navy, and while he was god, my mama ran 595 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: into my father, or he must have run into her 596 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: several times, because she up and get pregnant and that 597 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: was it for Walter Smith. Walter Smith was out of 598 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: her life. My mother went on to have four more 599 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: kids by my father. They had five kids. Twenty five 600 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: years later, when my mom was trying to get her 601 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: life together, she the Winter Spiegels. She the man enough 602 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: money to finally go to Sears Driving School and learn 603 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: how to drive. She went and bought our first car, 604 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: a Woodie, and she took that car to get in 605 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: service then Robin's Illinois. And you know, when you get 606 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: your car service, you're sitting in the back after they 607 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: sending it back, and they watched it when she went 608 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: back to get the car. Watched and who do you 609 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: think is watching the car? High school sweetheart, Walter Smith. 610 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: And all I could think of is what went through 611 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: my mama's head. And she watched Walter rubbing and soping 612 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: and sooping and rubbing that car. I mean, they kicked 613 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: it off like that. Twenty years had never passed, and 614 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, they were a couple again. 615 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: She went on and told my father all best foot 616 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: all she was getting to divorce and marrying Walter Smith. 617 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: And so she stayed with my dad for twenty five years, 618 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then she married her high school sweetheart. 619 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: When she stayed with until his death, you know. And 620 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: he was a great stepfather. And we loved my father, 621 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, but we also understood what was going on. 622 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: We watched this that was and we watched the constom 623 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: fighting and my mother crying. We watched my father comes 624 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: staggering in the house and the mother didn't come home. 625 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: We watched all of that, and we loved my dad. 626 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, maybe six months after they got divorced, 627 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: my father up and died yea fifty one. And I 628 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: thought at first that it was from the complications from 629 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: the diabetes. You know what y' all called the sugar 630 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: because he had diabetes and he should have been drinking 631 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: at all, but he drinking fit the booze a day 632 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: and spoke through that pack of pal Mail series, and 633 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: so I thought, it's hardly explode in his check. But 634 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: when I think about it more, I am certain that 635 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: he died of a broken heart. He just loved my mother, man, 636 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: and she loved him too, But she wanted more for 637 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: her kids, man, you know, And sometimes the thing is 638 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: over is over, and you gotta move on, man. You know. 639 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of this book is that it's a journey. 640 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: It's it's I was just look there, because who's all air? 641 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: He has the book about that whole ten year run 642 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: on Venis Beach, because that's another book. That's another book. 643 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: But this book, Yeah, the book is delivering to us 644 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: called Michael Gets Motivation, Ghost Motivational. Excuse me, ghost Motivational. 645 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Michael tell us how we can buy that book. First 646 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: of all, for our going to my little well, you know, 647 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: and next week is supposed to go on steale through Amazon, 648 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: you know. But until then, you guys can always go 649 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: to my web page, which is a very sexy web page. 650 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: It's called the Real Michael Collier dot com and the 651 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Real Michael dot com. The web page opens up, you know, 652 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing a play, as you know, uh, the similar 653 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: to the book, and it's called Michael Cowers Mama, and 654 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: so it's my whole journey and I'm doing a hundred 655 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: city tour of that. So if you go on the 656 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: web page, you can hit a tab called Mama and 657 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: it will open up and it'll show you scenes from 658 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: the play. It will show six minutes of the play 659 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: and the story of the play. But it's all for 660 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: a store. And if you go to the store, it 661 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: has the book it all has all three of my books. 662 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling all kind of stuff. I got T shirts, 663 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: I'm selling everything, and on this white sofa all kicked 664 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: back and got the hat on sexy. You know you're sexy. 665 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: That's for show. I'm looking at the cover. That a great, 666 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: great code a T shirt underneath with the it's a 667 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: grade A silver coach jacket you got on that Michael 668 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Golds motivational. I love it. Right. You could go on 669 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: and buy books, t shirts, everything from the page. And 670 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: you know you can hire me from that page. Just 671 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: work and say what you want. But I love my 672 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: web page. I love I love the baby at a pump. 673 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Mike. You know, thank you 674 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: for taking your time to come on my show man. 675 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: It's um it's a it's a blessing to say that 676 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: we could still have this conversation today. It's a blessing 677 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: is allowed me to get that book in time for 678 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: me to read it, to share my emotions that it 679 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: takes from your from your your journey. I've gotta thank you. 680 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Just let me take a moment to thank you, brother, 681 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: because you really read this book, and you really know 682 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: this book, and there are those who will make me 683 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: think that this book as But most people have watched it, 684 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: read it, and they know it's it's really a good story. 685 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: That it's a journey. And like you said about life, 686 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: life is a journey. It's not a quick it's not 687 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: a trip so quick tripping. It's a journey to Some 688 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: people say to me, man, that the universe has cursed me. 689 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Some people said the universe is to bless me. It 690 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: doesn't do either one. The universe responds to your vibrations. 691 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: So whatever you're sending out is what the universe sends 692 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: back to you. So it's called Michael Golds Motivational because 693 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to motivate people through comedy, you know it 694 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: to a comedic form. Because I'm also doing motivational speaking 695 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: around the country. And you reading the book and knowing 696 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: those details and loving it and knowing the wonderful journey 697 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: it is that means the world to me. And I 698 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: watched you, young man, come from putting your club together 699 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: to making your club on the coldest clubs out there, 700 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: and and taking it from that to becoming one of 701 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: the greatest managers and creators of talent to this town 702 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: of matter fact this country as of a scene. So 703 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I thank you, I salute you, and I appreciate you. Brother. 704 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You made not just my day, 705 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: you made my year. Brother. 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