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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And it is April second, two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty three days in counting until the Cowboys don't have

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen NFL Draft on April twenty fifth, So it's

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Speaker 1: twenty four days in counting until the Cowboys do have

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Speaker 1: a draft pick unless there's a trade. Welcome to Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to get fired up for this draft. Now.

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Speaker 1: You got fired up, Brian about three or four months ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to draft right now. That's right. I'm just

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Speaker 1: now getting into it. I'm just now starting to fill

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Speaker 1: up my big green NFL Draft scouting note there it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But hey, how you doing. I'm good, good good. I'm

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Speaker 1: not fired up yet? Why not? I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just not. This is the week to get fired up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the right week. Try to tell us Rob,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? This week. This is top thirty visits

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Speaker 1: week right Dallas Day on Friday where they bring in

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Speaker 1: local prospects, so and names always start to filter out.

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Speaker 1: Huge advantage they have over other teams around the league,

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Speaker 1: for sure, because there's sometimes there's top guys betimes, there's

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Speaker 1: top guys from the area that you don't have to

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Speaker 1: spend a thirty visit on. Yeah, they technically they qualified

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Speaker 1: to just come in on Friday. Yeah, yep. It's a

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Speaker 1: good way to do it, yep. And it's worked in

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Speaker 1: the past as well. Yeah, they always seem to these

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Speaker 1: thirty visits seem to allow them to the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: you've had this whole year now of a football season,

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Speaker 1: you've had a Senior Bowl, you've had a combine, you've

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Speaker 1: had now the thirty visits, and then you go put

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Speaker 1: this board together. But the thirty I just always felt

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Speaker 1: like though they pay really close attention those thirty visits.

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Speaker 1: It might be one or two names, it might be

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Speaker 1: why that they bring these kids in because they want

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Speaker 1: I think this is a one of those times. I

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Speaker 1: And it helps you when you start comparing them to

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Speaker 1: the grades? Grades are equal, playing ability equal, medical equal?

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Speaker 1: What can maybe shift it one way or another? And

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Speaker 1: you know, again the guy like Deebo Samuel coming in here,

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Speaker 1: wider siering, he's talked about, you know, he's actually on

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Speaker 1: social media, he's put out, there's been in the locker

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing. And you're getting

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Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about these players. I

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Speaker 1: think that is why the interest in the draft has

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Speaker 1: skyrocketed the last fifteen years, ever since YouTube became a

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Speaker 1: player in our society, because people like me, people like

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Speaker 1: fans out there. We can now go on YouTube and

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Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, that about these players and whether watching

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Speaker 1: this is a type of player that I'm getting. I

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Speaker 1: It's the best way to do business because cottage industry,

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Speaker 1: we didn't bring in DeMarcus Ware and they didn't bring

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcells. Is that a head fake? I don't know

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Speaker 1: it was a head fake. That was a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Rick had gotten from other teams. Rick had done. You

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Speaker 1: list of the things the good and the bads on

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Speaker 1: discussion about whether Spears or Where. That shows you how

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Speaker 1: Where in Spears, aside from the different positions that they played,

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Speaker 1: but Where had them had the upside? I mean, he

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Speaker 1: but he was more on Merriman though. Two that was

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Speaker 1: to go up? You know, there's a couple of players

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Speaker 1: you know Taylor Rapp I think that that's a guy.

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Speaker 1: Him and Abram, those are two guys. I think you're

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Speaker 1: And that's a good point, Brian, because we talked to

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett at the combine about how your evaluation process.

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Speaker 1: You still got to be pretty pure with it even

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Speaker 1: You know, the question was could that affect your visits

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Speaker 1: I said, if he asked you, where does you fall now?

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Speaker 1: You don't have Lawrence by the twenty sixth of April.

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Speaker 1: How does that affect things as far as the draft? Boy,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm I'm grinding my teeth right now.

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Speaker 1: I really am. You know what you know what you know? What?

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Speaker 1: You know? What you know? It can change this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: You know can change this whole dynamic in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys don't have to agree with me,

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Speaker 1: you probably won't. If he were to get surgery now,

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Speaker 1: he would put Dallas in a bad situation. If he

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Speaker 1: were to get surgery right now. How's that Because by

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Speaker 1: getting the surgery, he's saying, Okay, you cut me, I'm

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Speaker 1: still gonna go get money somewhere else. He's making if

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Speaker 1: you get surgery right now, instead of holding it as

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Speaker 1: a chip, you're actually saying Okay, I'm with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get myself fixed. I'm gonna be ready to play.

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Speaker 1: Now you got to pay me to get ready to play.

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Speaker 1: That I think I think he could get momentum back

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Speaker 1: if he gets surgery. The more I think about this,

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Speaker 1: the more I mean, instead of holding it as a

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Speaker 1: surgery as a as a show of good faith. Now

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Speaker 1: the everybody's looking him at going wait a minute, he's

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Speaker 1: got surgery, he's fixed. Why don't you pay him? I

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Speaker 1: think I think I think the Cowboys. If the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: knew that he was going to get surgery, I think

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Speaker 1: the negotiations would would swing in a different way. I

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Speaker 1: really do as a good faith measure, and I'm giving

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Speaker 1: you something, you give me something, and his rehab would

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Speaker 1: be done by the time training camp started. There exactly

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Speaker 1: exactly a countdowns on because if yeah, you get past

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Speaker 1: the draft and it's like start a camp and look

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Speaker 1: like if I was his agent, I would have the surgery.

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Speaker 1: I would go ahead. Because what he has to be

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Speaker 1: ready about is because if it doesn't work out for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, he has to be ready to play. He

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Speaker 1: has to be ready so if the Cowboys yanked the

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Speaker 1: tag on him, well, then he is His ability to

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Speaker 1: go get money or at least to get a one

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Speaker 1: then that will limit maybe the options that he has,

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Speaker 1: or or he could play without having the surgery. But

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Speaker 1: then again, the cat where the Cowboys paying for they're

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be either. Or he could turn his back on

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Speaker 1: twenty point five million dollars. There is always that you

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Speaker 1: think he would do that. I mean, I wouldn't do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not I'm not him. He wants

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Speaker 1: call him out on that one, You call him out

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Speaker 1: on that one. Take my chances that he's not turned

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Speaker 1: down twenty million games. What about the surgery then, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? What you're saying, you're you're

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Speaker 1: waiting it out? Yeah, yeah, all right, you're gonna wait

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Speaker 1: it out. Okay, you're waiting it out. But he didn't

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Speaker 1: get the surgery done. How are you feeling about that? First? Now?

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Speaker 1: And he hadn't got the surgery. Yeah. Wait, what if

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Speaker 1: we get to July fourteenth and we haven't had the

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Speaker 1: surgery done? So you're just gonna let him go? We

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Speaker 1: have no choice. No, I'm just I'm asking you juifteenth right, yes,

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Hello Chris, Hey, good afternoon, guys. Howdy. First,

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you so much for all

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Speaker 1: Oh oh was that it? That was nice? But sixty

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Speaker 1: I am finally you know, eureka moment that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: actually used a low, low round draft pick to uh

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that. But um, that's one thing I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if you guys could could explain to me a

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Speaker 1: little bit why I always feel like the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: very reluctant or resistant tom to getting you know, a

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Speaker 1: really high quality big defensive tackle in there to shore

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Speaker 1: up the middle, because I feel like, um, they really

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Speaker 1: seem to have a lot of difficulty defending quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: are mobile. Um, and I just feel like they, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I keep hearing about

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Speaker 1: they have a low priority on defensive tackle all uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the one that's true technique, and I just

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Speaker 1: that's true. They don't. They don't want to use especially

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Speaker 1: he just now he'll tell you that the the under

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Speaker 1: very important in his scheme. But he wants nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with you know, he feels like he can find

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Speaker 1: a guy and like he's like an Antoine Woods. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he feels like they're guys out there that he could

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Speaker 1: find he could coach you know. That's why we were

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Speaker 1: Vita Vea, Vita Vea, and then at the end of

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from the University of Washington and Rod

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Speaker 1: Marinell I haven't asked him about that. He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: But they're not gonna be. They're not gonna be all

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Speaker 1: these guys that you know, they're not gonna be these

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles that we've all you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, talked about on the Draft Show. I mean

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Speaker 1: that again, they don't have a first round pick, but Quinnon, Williams, Simmons, Wilkins, Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: all those guys. I mean, no, he's going to find

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Speaker 1: him a in the third round. You know that he

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Speaker 1: that he likes. He's probably gonna look like I said,

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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna look more for a He's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: look more for an under tackle or three than he

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Speaker 1: is a nose because he's got you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: Comington now and he's got uh the woods. So if

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a defensive tackle. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: three in my opinion. You know, Randy White, I do

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Speaker 1: of those big bazooka nose tackles in there. They won't

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Speaker 1: do it, That's right. It's funny because he played with

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Speaker 1: he played with Booker McFarland at the at Tampa, who

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Speaker 1: was a first round pick, and from then on he

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Speaker 1: just says never He's never been able to do I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to remember at the Bears and the Lions and

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Speaker 1: places like that, you know, but still he's one techniques. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just he will not do it. It just that

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Speaker 1: Stephen Paia was with Chicago, right, and Stephen Pott was

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Speaker 1: here Melton. Yeah, yeah, but they just will not. He

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Speaker 1: just it's it's it's something fundamentally to him that he

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Speaker 1: he's okay with that. So as as fans look at

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Speaker 1: the draft, what is the phototype of what Marinelli is

639
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: looking for? In that defensive tackle. If you could from

640
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: a scouting standpoint, as far the one or the three,

641
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: that the three? Yeah, well either the one or the three.

642
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: What is he looking for? As far as height weight?

643
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: You got something on that, Mickey you want to say,

644
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's looking for somebody that's quick, that can

645
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: get up the field even at the at the one

646
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: technique right while it's it's a bigger guy. He wants

647
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: a guy agile enough to be on the move. So

648
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: from a scouting, but didn't he have Sue at he

649
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: was Detroit. I'm trying to think of it, see but Sue,

650
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: But he's not the big, sloppy three hundred and sixty

651
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: pound No, he ain't sloppy. But know he had Warren

652
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Zapp and at tap of your that's his three. That's Berg.

653
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: McFarland was his one. And then and then he had

654
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, Simeon Rice playing one end was so yeah,

655
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if you look at you look at

656
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: what he's doing now in this draft, and you look

657
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: at and the names might start leaking out on who

658
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: they can visit, and but do you look at the

659
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Kingsley kid Kingsley Kiki from Texas A and m guys

660
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: like you're talking about guys that can play in, can

661
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: play tackle, can get up the field, get on the

662
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: outside shoulder attack. You know. Tristan Hill from from Central

663
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: Florida is another guy that's like that. Gerald Willis from

664
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Miami another guy that gets on the shoulder, he gets

665
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: up the field. Zach Allen, Zach, Yeah, these are guys,

666
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: These are guys that that's what he wants. He wants,

667
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: he wants guys that can play the run, but also

668
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: are interested in getting up the field. You know, kids,

669
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: got it right up there, right now, He's got the

670
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Hill kids. See. I mean, if you're watching along with us,

671
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: right there, there's a guy again. He's got some size

672
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: to him, but he's got the quickness, the agility. Those

673
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: are the kinds of things he's looking at for his

674
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: defensive pack. You can almost say that the one in

675
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: three in this scheme are somewhat interchangeable because you've seen

676
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: Molie Collins play both. You know, he's alternated between three

677
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: and one. Like, like you said, has some size, can

678
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: hold up against the run, but you've got to be

679
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: disruptive and be able to push the pocket. Both those guys,

680
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I just think he's looking for more. I think that

681
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: they're trying to find a way to upgrade the three,

682
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: and I mean upgraded in a way that with Collins

683
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: potentially being gone after next year, with kind of his

684
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: injury history with the foot, he's been having to deal

685
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: with that quite a bit. I think they're looking for

686
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: a guy to take over that role the three technique. Now,

687
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: whether Crawford swing gets inside again and does that, it

688
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: might if they don't get the guy, maybe that's the

689
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: avenue that they go. But I kind of feel like

690
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: that that they're hunting that guy. They're hunting that undertackle guy.

691
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: But see the weird the weird thing of what the

692
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: guy said about needing one of those guys in there

693
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: to play the run. They finished fifth against the run

694
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: last year. They did until the loss to the Rams. Right,

695
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: they had two games the bad games four hundred and

696
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: fifty combined washing yards other than that, and they still

697
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: finished fifth, Right, and they and they only gave up

698
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: three point eight yards a carry. Yeah, yeah, until that

699
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: game and the Colts game. But I think play was

700
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: really good. So was it was it like poor personnel

701
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: or all of a sudden that they kind of get

702
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: out scheme together. Whatever they were doing the both games,

703
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: it looked pretty simplistic to me. The Colts game, I

704
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't see them running a lot of intricate plays, washed

705
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: out of plays. They're both offensive lines. The Rams line,

706
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: the Colts line did a great job. I just thought

707
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: they took advantage of the Cowboys being aggressive up front. Yeah,

708
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: well they they they beat them going the other way.

709
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: They totally totally hammered them up front. And I think

710
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: that Cowboys have done a nice job of playing the run,

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: like you said, Mickey, So yeah, I would keep an

712
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: eye again. These names will start popping out here, and

713
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: I promise you there will be more of those under

714
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: tackles or three techniques visiting here than than the one

715
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: technique guys. I just I just that's just the way

716
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. To your point, with that current cast,

717
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: they did a great job overall. But to Bill's point,

718
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: think about what they could have had with Irving And

719
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: I know that ship has sailed, but I'm just saying,

720
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: if you could add another guy, I mean, Covington Hyder

721
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: can be part of this rotation, right, but another disruptive

722
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: guy in that rotation take some pressure off Antoine Woods.

723
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: That's what yer can do. You're right, I mean, yeah,

724
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I know how many of those guys are out there.

725
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, which lives Well, Irving, you want to replace him,

726
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: but he was a freak. Yeah, that's see David Irving.

727
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: There's people still debate with his best position was tackle

728
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: or defensive end? The people that live, they mean he

729
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: had just as much production that Tampa game if you

730
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago using as a as

731
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: a left defensive end. I'm not saying you're gonna find

732
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: David Irving's talent level necessarily, but another guy that can

733
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: you can throw into the play everyone with one of

734
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: these first couple draft picks. I mean, I think that

735
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: can only help this group going forward. One guy that

736
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by, and I'd like to get Brian your

737
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: thoughts on Charles A. Mina, who Yeah, from Texas. There's

738
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: not much like there, really not overall, and have him

739
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: by him? Is his long arms? No? No, And there's

740
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot and there's a lot of a lot of

741
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: long armed arms, long armed players in this draft. I mean,

742
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: especially when you get to the cornerbacks and stuff like that.

743
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a lot of guys. Yeah, they've

744
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: never they've never talking to some folks about a mina

745
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: who never really warmed up to him as a player.

746
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: They just never they felt And the things that with

747
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: the biggest problem with when you watch him play, and

748
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: I thought the Senior Bowl was probably some of his

749
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: best work, But you watch him play, watch the Oklahoma game,

750
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, he gets washed a lot.

751
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: You know, there's a two hundred and eighty pound guy,

752
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, Okay, be a little bit better at

753
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: the point of attack, not so much. I mean, he

754
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: is one of those guys when they when guys get

755
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: on him, you see them take him out of the play.

756
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's really where the Cowboys scouts kind

757
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: of talking to them pre Senior Bowl about him and

758
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: then seeing boy kind of did some better things, and

759
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: the still the attitude was now just go watch the

760
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: game film and the game film doesn't lie about him. Yeah,

761
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: and you watch the Oklahoma games and and he has

762
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: he has some issues there, and those Oklahoma linemen are

763
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: all gonna get drafted. All those guys are gonna get drafted.

764
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: So you're playing against pro lineman there and you're having

765
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: problems with them. That's just a little bit of a

766
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: precursor to what potentially could happen to you. And I

767
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: don't know what position he is best suited for. Well,

768
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: he's played, he's played all over. But I mean, I

769
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: think the way he plays to me, you know, I'm

770
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: saying about him as a rusher and all that. I mean,

771
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: the stuff that I saw with him was the left

772
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: defensive end. I mean the thing when I'm looking at

773
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: about him. At Texas, they played him in a head

774
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: up scheme, you know, and it really didn't do him

775
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: any favors. You know, when he was head up trying

776
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: to like play with power, that's when the you know,

777
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: that's when the issues were. Did I talk about disengaging

778
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: with guys? You know, you think his physical ability would

779
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: allow him to get off more blocks, but it just

780
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: doesn't show he could get moved by tight ends too.

781
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Is another thing that bothers me. If you're a defensive

782
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: ending you're getting blocked by tight ends, that's a really

783
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: bad sign, as a very bad sign. Okay, the little

784
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: news nugget that I think Tom Pella sero head first

785
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: today about Randy Gregory being extended. Um, what do we

786
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: make of this? Extended next year. They're standing by their man. Well,

787
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: he would have been restricted next year. I think, Um,

788
00:39:52,080 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: it says a lot of tracks year because told yeah,

789
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: I've been looking for three weeks ago, told so he restricted.

790
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: So basically what you did. It's a minimum salary for

791
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, and you gave him a loan for

792
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: this year. That's yeah, need some money. Well that's not

793
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: MINEA needed some money. How many times did the poor

794
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: guy get fined last year? Every time you turned around,

795
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: the poor guy was getting a fine for something, you

796
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: know exactly what I mean. Yeah, And all of a sudden,

797
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: those game checks, when they turn into fines, there's not

798
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: anything left. It's like taking taxes from the guy, you know.

799
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, you know, And I think

800
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: that this is again, this is is Jerry Jones's way

801
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: of making sure that he's trying to take care of

802
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: a player. And everybody out there can beat everybody up

803
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: about this deal or not, but this is a This

804
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: is a another human taking care of another human. Is

805
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: what this is until the problems get corrected. Because you

806
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: think about it, he was on the books for a

807
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: base salary this year. I think it was nine fifty

808
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: five ye hundred and fifty five thousand UM. And if

809
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't get to play right, he doesn't make that money, right, right,

810
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: So they've almost done him a favor and not mad

811
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: they have done. And the three hundred fifteen thousand that

812
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: they gave him as a signing bonus now splits over

813
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: two years, right, And so you save yourself about one

814
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand against the cap. You would hope

815
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: that then you retain his rights. Yeah, you would hope

816
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: that things get better for Randy Gregory. But again, he

817
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: faced so many fines and things like that that happened

818
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: to him last year that he couldn't. It took all

819
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: his money. And so now, and I'm not saying how

820
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: do you not live on nine hundred thousand dollars, but

821
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: just keep taking it away from you and see how

822
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: you're doing. But this was the Cowboys way of saying, hey, listen,

823
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: we understand your issues. And if you're a fan out

824
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: there and you're busting on the team for trying to

825
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: help Randy Gregory, shame on you for that. You wish,

826
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody wishes they had somebody like Jerry Jones

827
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: in their corner. That was trying to help him along.

828
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: You know it also it gives him incentive. It gives

829
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: him hope that he maybe you're not totally kicking him

830
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: to the curve, You're giving him a chance. But Terence

831
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Williams put Terence Williams on injurers or they gonna cut

832
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams. But Terence Williams continue to get paid. You know,

833
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: big difference in the way they would talk about David

834
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: Irving this past offseason than they would Randy Gregory. Big difference. Um,

835
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: like you said, stand and buy him, no question about it. Uh.

836
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: And then Robert Quinn was here yesterday, Yes, made the rounds. Yeah,

837
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: I was not here, signed deal. Ye signed his deal.

838
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: Mrade Actually happened since the last time we convene. Yeah. So, Um,

839
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've talked it over um quite a

840
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: bit and where that stands. But I think from a

841
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: salary cap standpoint that it's a great you know, it's

842
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: a very good deal as far as what where the

843
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys are with Randy Gregory and whether they get a

844
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: veteran guy in here. He's got some skins on the

845
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: wall and can still play at age twenty nine. It

846
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: protects you if something happens again with the defensive end spot,

847
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: especially at the left defensive end spot, if you cannot

848
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: get the left defensive end done and it becomes a

849
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,480
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Speaker 1: You know, are you saying he's better than better than Lawrence? No?

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Speaker 1: But are you're saying at least it's it's an option.

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Speaker 1: this thing is. If you can't get Lawrence done, if

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Speaker 1: about Randy not being here, so you do. It's Gregory's

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Speaker 1: not here, then he's not a rotation guy. He playing

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Speaker 1: every down. It well, it depend on what they do

869
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Speaker 1: with Crawford. Well, Crawford goes left, Lawrence isn't there, said yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying and if Gregory isn't there, he's a

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Speaker 1: as a makeup of the roster right now, without any addition.

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Speaker 1: It was an indictment against tattoos one more time. When

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Speaker 1: that I always gave my daughters about getting tattoos, like

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Speaker 1: a condor. It's true. That is true. Yep, that's a

972
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Speaker 1: pretty good one. So what's up with the Alliance of

973
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Speaker 1: American Football? Sounds like they're suspending operations, not clothes in shop,

974
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Speaker 1: just suspending Well, suspension will lead to clothes is what

975
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Speaker 1: it sounds like. So, yeah, they're cain't finish this season. Yeah,

976
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. And it's two games week during

977
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Speaker 1: Week eight. Yeah, and it sounds like that. Vince McMahon

978
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Speaker 1: it's had something to do with this whis XFL. He

979
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Speaker 1: sold more than three million shares of his WWE stock

980
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Speaker 1: yesterday with the goal to come aut proceeds to fund

981
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Speaker 1: his upcoming football league, which turned out to be about

982
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy million. Two hundred seventy two million

983
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Speaker 1: dollars is what he sold off stock yesterday, So that's

984
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Speaker 1: because he has to pay Bob Stoops yeah to coach

985
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Xact. Think the l will be fine, Well,

986
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Speaker 1: financially they will. I don't know if anyone will because

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Speaker 1: he's got Jay pockets Kill well yeah the ww he

988
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Speaker 1: makes like a billion a year. So now I don't

989
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Speaker 1: know how much money the guy from Dallas has that

990
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Speaker 1: funded the league from Dundon, but he did he just

991
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Speaker 1: d two hundred and fifty millions? Did he just lose that?

992
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Speaker 1: Is that what happened there? Well? Oh my gosh, well

993
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Speaker 1: I can see what he's been trying to do is

994
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Speaker 1: leverage the nfl PA to force the NFL to allow

995
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Speaker 1: them to sign practice squad players in the office. But

996
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Speaker 1: there's no practice squad players in the off season. Those

997
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Speaker 1: guys are free agents. And once they sign, are you

998
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Speaker 1: going to let them go play in a spring league

999
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Speaker 1: and then say, okay, now July twentieth, ye're going to training. Well,

1000
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Speaker 1: most of the practice squad players that the NFL teams want,

1001
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Speaker 1: they go ahead and sign them the future contract extend

1002
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Speaker 1: of the season, and so they then aren't available for

1003
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Speaker 1: the spring league. I'll tell you what. When we when

1004
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Speaker 1: we were doing NFL Europe, we're first starting NFL Europe.

1005
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Speaker 1: At least this league gives these players enough time to recover.

1006
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Speaker 1: We didn't. We we didn't give the players at all

1007
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Speaker 1: any time. I remember Dwayne Hawthorne that we you know.

1008
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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a guy it went to NFL,

1009
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Speaker 1: played a whole season, and he went from being when

1010
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Speaker 1: he came back, he was just so beat up. He

1011
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Speaker 1: couldn't ru I mean, the one thing he had was quickness,

1012
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: and he had none of that. He was dead well.

1013
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: The one they would play that whole season and get

1014
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: like a month between the exactly exactly. The biggest problem

1015
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Speaker 1: with NFL Europe as far as the NFL calendar is concerned,

1016
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Speaker 1: is it point as you're saying, it went into May

1017
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Speaker 1: to the end of May, and now you're missing OTAs

1018
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: and so forth. That so you could not be incorporated

1019
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: into I love I love the fact that we were

1020
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: involved to try and work with the NFL and that

1021
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: stuff when when we were in NFL Europe, But we

1022
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Speaker 1: didn't give those players enough time. Now, those are those

1023
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Speaker 1: poor kids. They couldn't they could They had to go

1024
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Speaker 1: straight from our league to a training camp. Yeah, I mean,

1025
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were they were, they were without being

1026
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: involved in the offseason right program, right, right, And that's

1027
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Speaker 1: why the AAF had set up their schedule perfectly to

1028
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: where it was over by the draft. Right and then yeah,

1029
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: but if the NFL team wanted to sign one of

1030
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Speaker 1: those players, they couldn't get and put them right into

1031
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: their offseason program and they don't miss a beat. If

1032
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Speaker 1: the NFL wanted a true minor league system, though, they

1033
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: could and I guess hypothetically you could absorb this league

1034
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: and make it part of yours. Now they were, they

1035
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Speaker 1: were televising games on NFL network, but it's not an

1036
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Speaker 1: official partnership. But I don't know if the NFL really

1037
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: wants to go down that road having a minor league system.

1038
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: The problem is they got college football. They've put these

1039
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Speaker 1: teams in places where there's still major NFL teams, right Birmingham,

1040
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: San Antonio. San Antonio's got Houston in Dallas, this close.

1041
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Speaker 1: San Diego has a team Memphis as a team, there's

1042
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: one in Phoenix. But see, they don't they don't portray

1043
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: it like baseball because minor league baseball, you get, it's

1044
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: just minor league with these guys growing to get up,

1045
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: these guys playing there there's no one growing these guys

1046
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: that are that either pastor primes or couldn't make it. Yeah,

1047
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Speaker 1: and it's hard to sell a minor league football team,

1048
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Speaker 1: but you're right, as far as you know, they were

1049
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Speaker 1: trying to get the players Association to sign off on it.

1050
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: And the only way a league like this would work

1051
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Speaker 1: would be like the old NFL Europe right where you've

1052
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Speaker 1: got an affiliation with the NFL. And I think the

1053
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Speaker 1: way they need to do it if you got a

1054
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Speaker 1: team in San Antonio put them in the Cowboy uniform. Yeah,

1055
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Speaker 1: I can't there's no affiliation. Yeah that's good. I can't

1056
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Speaker 1: watch these teams with these uniforms that I have no

1057
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Speaker 1: I want to see. Like in baseball, you'll have the

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals a long time, you know, the Louisville

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Speaker 1: Redbirds where they're Triple A affiliate or whatever and they

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Speaker 1: wear cardinal uniforms whatever. But if a spring league put them,

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Speaker 1: you know, have affiliations with NFL teams and have them yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like look like the Steelers. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: don't people go to games in Frisco baseball games because

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Speaker 1: those are young ranger players that you think you're developed

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Speaker 1: to get to the Major. I saw Alex. I saw

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Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez. I was working with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: I saw him play in in Wisconsin for like ten

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Speaker 1: minutes he played, but I mean I got to see him,

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Speaker 1: you know, play. I mean, that's why people went to

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Speaker 1: Appleton Fox's games was to see Alex Rodriguez play. You know.

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Speaker 1: So when I was in Jackson, that was Darryl Strawberry

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Speaker 1: rookie years in the minors. But that's a good point, Mick,

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Speaker 1: because we've got a lot of questions about, hey, there's

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Speaker 1: any aff players to keep an eye on, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a feeder system, and it's I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it really is with this current group they've got playing,

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Speaker 1: and if you watch it, it's I haven't watched a

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Speaker 1: lot of it, to be honest, but you know you

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Speaker 1: don't see a lot of Well the hard part is,

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Speaker 1: at least with baseball you can see individual guys if

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Speaker 1: they're progressing. In football, like if you don't have offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry the quarterback qubect toast. You know something though

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Speaker 1: from this league that we might get is the way

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Speaker 1: they handle replay. That might you know with it if

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Speaker 1: you Remember they had and I know you say didn't

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Speaker 1: watch Mickey, you probably watch more games than anybody, but

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Speaker 1: they had the ability, You had the abilities for the

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Speaker 1: communication between the booth and the and the official down

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Speaker 1: and you kind of heard the discussion that was going

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Speaker 1: on between the two. More transparency, more transparency. You're right,

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Speaker 1: ken't So maybe that's something that will get There's always

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Speaker 1: something that these leads give us, and maybe it's like

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: they you know, that wasn't a bad idea about us

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: being able to hear the official, tell the replay official,

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00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: tell the official on the field exactly what the call

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00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: should be. Like. They eliminated extra points too. It's only

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Speaker 1: two point aversions in the AF. Yeah, I can still

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Speaker 1: kick a field goal, but after a touchdown he had

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Speaker 1: to go for two. It's pretty agreenable. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: and the other thing that they were experimenting with is

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Speaker 1: letting the official in the box have direct communication, like

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Speaker 1: you said, to fix something and truth be known. That's

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Speaker 1: what Jason Garrett was angling towards at their owner's meeting.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't what they ended up. He was wanting to

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Speaker 1: basically go that route. Sure you're going to the masters,

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Speaker 1: I am leave Saturday for I'm going to go for

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday practice round, So you guys, I will be listening.

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Speaker 1: I won't be listening on the course you're going to practice, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be practice round of the Masters, which

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Speaker 1: is the time to go. Yeah, you go to the Masters,

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Speaker 1: yea Atlanta on Saturday. It's gonna hang out with some

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Speaker 1: buddies and then go the Masters on Tuesday. I'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you guys Wednesday. About the second shot for

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us yes, like he's using a that's what

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Speaker 1: I said, and didn't know the titles made a shovel

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Speaker 1: with his Tomento cheese sandwich. Oh my gosh, they're so

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Speaker 1: good Mickey and their two bucks. So you've been there before?

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Speaker 1: I did went last year? Oh did you? Yes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love that place. That was the I'm not a golfer.

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Speaker 1: That was the first perfectional golf tournel and I was

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Speaker 1: the Masters. Ryan says, you can eat off that grass.

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Speaker 1: You can. It's oh my god, it is amazing that place.

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Speaker 1: When you walk through the gates, you're like, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: out of place except me. On that note, that's a

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Speaker 1: great way to end talking cowboys. But you will have

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Speaker 1: the Draft show on Thursday at eleven. We will be here.

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Speaker 1: We'll dig into this little deeper, we get closer, closer.

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Speaker 1: Here we are and we will talk act you again

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Speaker 1: next week. Here I'm talking Cowboys. This has been a

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Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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