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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get.

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Speaker 1: Enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that bos Front.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, Koktuffia, Frank Bears.

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Speaker 3: Hound Out, Rock Up Suck.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 5: Oh, a quick turn after the watch party on Saturday night.

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Speaker 5: Great to have you back with us. It is episode

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Speaker 5: four hundred and fifty nine of the Anic and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: My son doesn't like when I say four fifty nine

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Speaker 5: or one twenty. He's like, no, Dad, it's four hundred

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Speaker 5: and fifteen nine, all right, son? Episode four fifteen on

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Speaker 5: in the Anticonflooring Podcast. It's Monday, January fifteenth. The year

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Speaker 5: is twenty twenty four. We are presented by DraftKings thanks

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Speaker 5: to those of you who have found us on the

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Speaker 5: DraftKings YouTube channel, the DraftKings Network as well. Of course,

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Speaker 5: that watch party can Flow was back on the old channel,

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Speaker 5: the Anakin Florian podcast YouTube channel, which is a big

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Speaker 5: initiative for us this year. So how'd you like being

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Speaker 5: in studio watching fights with me? My twin bro, big

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Speaker 5: run and everything else. Do you enjoy our first watch

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Speaker 5: party or what?

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Speaker 3: Dude? In absolute blast? We have to do it again?

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Speaker 3: Good times?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, it just felt like actually we were in the

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Speaker 6: same place watching the fight for a little bit man,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, good time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: Do you notice I have a black eye? Can you

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Speaker 7: see that?

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Speaker 2: I do? So?

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Speaker 6: I got a little scratch on the inside of my

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Speaker 6: eye and nose from jiu jitsu. I jammed my thumb

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Speaker 6: the other day. I look at your eye, I'm like,

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Speaker 6: it looks like he did the same thing I did.

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Speaker 6: I'm an idiot. I actually jabbed myself in the eye

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Speaker 6: and nose with my thumb and scratch my whole face up.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, what the heck happened to you? Not jiu

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Speaker 3: jitsu practic.

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Speaker 5: And Pahoopa and I actually are at odds right now anyway,

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Speaker 5: so he probably wouldn't be my coach in the future,

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Speaker 5: if I'm being honest. I actually go back to the

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Speaker 5: Brazilian jiu jitsu world. But this was my dog who

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Speaker 5: who just came up and scratched me in the eye.

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Speaker 5: So for those of you who thought maybe it was

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Speaker 5: my twin brother. After our little dust up on Annix Squared.

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Speaker 5: I'm not letting him get close to me to punch

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Speaker 5: me the eye and give me a black eye.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 7: So this was my dog's doing and nothing that are

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Speaker 7: great makeup artist Chris Giraldo can't handle.

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Speaker 3: You, aren't. You weren't able to keep the distance.

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Speaker 7: There, that's right. I can't let you get close.

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Speaker 5: So pay per View Week is upon us UFC two

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Speaker 5: ninety seven coming up. Later this week, we will do

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Speaker 5: our main event challenge Ken Flow and Brian Petrie will

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Speaker 5: break down I think seven fights and they will spend

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Speaker 5: their one thousand dollars. You guys did pretty well, both

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Speaker 5: of you undefeated and in the black for UFC Fight Night.

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Speaker 5: Uncliah versus Walker two will recap that hog Today. We'll

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Speaker 5: also talk to Ray Longo and then later in the

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Speaker 5: week we will also talk to Sports that's Aaron Braunsteader.

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Speaker 5: He has changed network, so the foremost Canadian MMA journalist

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Speaker 5: is now back alout on our air Whiz, which is

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Speaker 5: very exciting. So he's got boots on the ground in Toronto.

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Speaker 5: I'm leaving in about forty eight hours, so a lot

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Speaker 5: to get to this week, and we will begin with

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Speaker 5: our recap of Maga mat Ankliv and Johnny Walker. It

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Speaker 5: was an outstanding UFC fight night, I thought overall at

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Speaker 5: the UFC Apex, Jim McMahon in the building, he of

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Speaker 5: it had been a long time since magamet Anklive had

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Speaker 6: Definitely, and first and foremost, I think we do have

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Speaker 3: He certainly proved that.

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Speaker 6: I think what's exciting more than anything else was his

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Speaker 6: Sometimes you see guys take a more conservative approach. I

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Speaker 3: And for Johnny Walker, this was a big drop off.

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Speaker 5: But for those who suggested that magamet an Kliev was

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Speaker 5: he absolutely did. And with respect to Johnny Walker, I

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Speaker 5: magamet Ankliev and Kenny obviously. When this felt was vacant

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Speaker 3: But I don't see him getting back in time before

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Speaker 5: So there was a gentleman's agreement between Kevin Holland and

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Speaker 5: Maga man Anclive. You do hope if he gets a

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Speaker 5: instinctually and plays to his strengths and puts all the

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Speaker 5: I mean, that would be my expectation. Perhaps he feels

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Speaker 5: like if he says he's going to kickbox, that'll be

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Speaker 5: an easier path to actually getting that title fight. But

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Speaker 5: my speculation tells me there's no fucking way Jamal Hill's

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Speaker 5: going to be ready for April thirteenth. Now you do

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Speaker 5: have June twenty nine. Yeah, Connor McGregor and Michael Chandler

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Speaker 5: perhaps would be the headliner over an Alex Padata title defense.

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Speaker 5: But if you are Alex Padata and you are thinking

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Speaker 6: That's never a good way to approach things, especially in

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Speaker 7: What else can you say?

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Speaker 6: Uh And congratulations Jim Miller who keeps doing it wants

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Speaker 7: What Jim Miller is doing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if this dude gets to thirty UFC wins,

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Speaker 6: I don't see him, you know, challenging for a belt

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Speaker 6: anytime in the near future, but I don't know, maybe

438
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Speaker 6: you know, if he's able to start to get some

439
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Speaker 6: more high level wins.

440
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Speaker 3: But either way, just the fact.

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Speaker 6: That he has stayed busy like this and consistent is

442
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Speaker 6: just next level tough. There's tough and then there's Jim

443
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Speaker 6: Miller tough.

444
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Speaker 5: So in terms of that contention that you mentioned, this

445
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Speaker 5: is a division that makes it very hard in which

446
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Speaker 5: to contend. You know, Bobby Green has been a name

447
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 5: that has been bandied about as a possible opponent for

448
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Speaker 5: Jim Miller at UFC three hundred, and I think that

449
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Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense. You know Bobby Green has

450
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Speaker 5: been ranked for the last several years. He's a guy

451
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Speaker 5: who has headlined I think thrice now for the Combat

452
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Speaker 5: Sports Leaders. So not out of the realm of possibility

453
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Speaker 5: that Jim Miller works his way back to the rankings.

454
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Speaker 5: But in terms of UFC three hundred, there were a

455
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Speaker 5: couple names that Jim Miller trotted out there, right, Matt Brown,

456
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Speaker 5: Paul Felder, brock Lesner. I mean, the brock Lesner fight

457
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Speaker 5: obviously is not going to happen, so we don't necessarily

458
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Speaker 5: need to reference that, although I'd be lying if I

459
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Speaker 5: said I was totally disinterested in seeing Jim Miller try

460
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Speaker 5: to rip a Kamora against brock Lesner. But Paul Felder

461
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: seemingly has a source that suggests that the UFC is

462
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Speaker 5: not interested in him versus Jim Miller. And with respect

463
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Speaker 5: to my dear friend Paul Felder, the iron lung, you

464
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 5: can understand why maybe the UFC would want to use

465
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Speaker 5: one of the guys that's in an active competition cycle,

466
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Speaker 5: or somebody who is on the ROS store, or maybe

467
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Speaker 5: try to build up somebody like Patty Pimblet to fight

468
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Speaker 5: Jim Miller as opposed to you know, getting somebody out

469
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Speaker 5: of the broadcast booth for a one off. I think

470
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Speaker 5: the Matt Brown fight just given the legendary statuses of

471
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Speaker 5: both men. How about Jim Miller versus Matt Brown for

472
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Speaker 5: like a spot in the Hall of Fame or something,

473
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Speaker 5: you know, I think that fight makes a lot of sense.

474
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Speaker 5: I think the Bobby Green fight makes sense. I think

475
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Speaker 5: a Patty Pimblet fight makes sense. I know I'm throwing

476
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Speaker 5: a lot at you. Cody's going to populate the top

477
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 5: fifteen for us here at one hundred and fifty five pounds, Kenny,

478
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Speaker 5: But off the top of your brain stem, who do

479
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Speaker 5: you think or who would you like to see Jim

480
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Speaker 5: Miller fight because he is going to compete at UFC

481
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Speaker 5: three hundred.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I actually like the fight against Felder. Call

483
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Speaker 6: me crazy. I think if there's a guy that you

484
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Speaker 6: could do a one off against, it would be a

485
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Speaker 6: guy like Felder. Both these guys are one hundred and

486
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Speaker 6: thirty five pounders or fought in that division before. Anyway,

487
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Speaker 6: Matt Brown at one hundred and seventy pounds I think

488
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Speaker 6: is a bit ambitious. I still think Matt Brown is

489
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Speaker 6: one of the more dangerous guys when it comes to

490
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Speaker 6: a muy Thai clinch, and again just the history of

491
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Speaker 6: Matt Brown, He's not in there to win rounds. He's

492
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Speaker 6: in there to destroy you as quickly as possible. And

493
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Speaker 6: you know, because jam Miller likes to do some of

494
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Speaker 6: that work in that clinch from that collar tie. While

495
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 6: he's very good there, I think Matt Brown is just

496
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 6: a little too big, a little bit too powerful, and

497
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Speaker 6: one of the best clinch fighters that I've seen from

498
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Speaker 6: a striking perspective in a very long time. So I

499
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Speaker 6: don't love that fight Onred at one hundred and seventy

500
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Speaker 6: pounds because I imagine Matt Brown would never be able

501
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Speaker 6: to make one fifty five. But you know, I actually

502
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Speaker 6: like the Felder Miller fight. I actually thought it kind

503
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 6: of made sense if there's gonna be a one off.

504
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 6: It's not like Miller is on this as of right now,

505
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Speaker 6: on this trajectory towards fighting for a belt in the

506
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Speaker 6: in the one hundred and fifty five pound division at

507
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Speaker 6: this point. So I don't know, I thought it was

508
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 6: it was juicy enough. You know, maybe the two guys

509
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 6: from a similar error that makes sense. But you know,

510
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Speaker 6: Bobby Green in there, I have no problem. I think

511
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Speaker 6: that'd be a really fun fight as well.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

513
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Speaker 5: Oh selfishly, I would love to crack a mic today

514
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 5: and campaign for my dear friend the ire Lung Paul Felder, Right,

515
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Speaker 5: And I do agree with you that it does make

516
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 5: some sense. But if the UFC doesn't have a guarantee

517
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Speaker 5: that that is going to continue after that fight, perhaps

518
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: that's not something that they want to lean into. When

519
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 5: I look at the lightweight top fifteen, some of these

520
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: guys are matched up. Bobby Green has the number fourteen

521
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Speaker 5: next to his name, but Neil darn yus number seven

522
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 5: in the world, doesn't necessarily have a fight, right, Like

523
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Speaker 5: if Jim Miller was really trying to vault toward contention,

524
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Speaker 5: you know, he could try to call out one of

525
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Speaker 5: those guys near the top of the division. But a

526
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 5: lot of those guys are matched up, whether it's Arman

527
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Speaker 5: saur Gian or Mattau's Gamrot.

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Speaker 2: Right.

529
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Speaker 5: We obviously have Halfayel dos Anjospin, while Antony Dustin Porrier.

530
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Speaker 5: A lot of these guys have fights right now, Ken Flin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's kind of why I do feel like

532
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Speaker 6: it does make sense, Like a Jim Miller Paul Felder

533
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Speaker 6: fight doesn't screw anything up in regard to the top fifteen,

534
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 6: so right, you know, it doesn't ruin the UFC's plans

535
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Speaker 6: as far as their next contender or screwing anything up

536
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 6: as far as some kind of an order or guys

537
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Speaker 6: that they'd like to see base for them, you know,

538
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Speaker 6: face someone for the belt. So I don't know, I

539
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 6: think it'd be a different story. Say if Paul Felder

540
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Speaker 6: jam Miller were in that top ten that I'd say, yeah,

541
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 6: you know that that makes sense. But you know, certainly

542
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Speaker 6: at one fifty five, there are so many options you're

543
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 6: talking about. Again my probably my biased opinion that the

544
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 6: toughest division in the UFC.

545
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm curious to see what their approach is

546
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: going to be there.

547
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Speaker 5: And as far as Matt Brown is concerned, he is

548
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 5: coming off the best weight cut of his career. I

549
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 5: was actually in the gym with him before his last

550
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 5: fight and maybe it was against Court McGee, and uh,

551
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: he was like, dude, I'm one sixty nine. I'm just

552
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 5: enjoying being in here right now. So but that being said,

553
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 5: there's no way that he could make fifty six, So

554
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 5: that would be a welterweight fight, and I think when

555
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 5: the UFC looks at UFC three hundred, we're probably going

556
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: to have fifteen fights, which is a broadcaster's nightmare. But

557
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: it's not like you can go sixteen seventeen fights unless

558
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 5: you want to look for a new play by play guy.

559
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 5: So when you think about novelty fights and Matt Brown

560
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: and Jim Miller, there are only so many slots. So

561
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 5: it might be a good way to sort of kill

562
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: two birds with one stone. Both of those guys have

563
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: pined to fight at UFC three hundred, Perhaps have them

564
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 5: fight against each other. But you're right, Jim Miller would

565
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 5: be relinquishing a lot of size, and I don't recall

566
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Speaker 5: him ever competing at one hundred and seventy pounds, certainly

567
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: not in the UFC unless I'm missing something right, So

568
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Speaker 5: this will be a first time for Jimmy Miller. But

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Speaker 5: either way, congratulations to a real good egg and in

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Speaker 4: Oh man, thank you a minute meant for being patient.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Kenny was almost I thought he might.

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Speaker 4: I thought you fell asleep during that. Kenny, I don't

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Speaker 4: about Jim Miller I am absolutely blown away by this guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny isn't me. I think he's actually gotten better.

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Speaker 4: I really believe he looks better to me. Now again,

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Speaker 4: it could be you know, maybe competition, you can say.

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Speaker 4: But the guy, how old is?

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Speaker 2: Think? How old is? He? Now?

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Speaker 7: Got to be like thirty five?

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Speaker 2: He's not thirty five?

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Speaker 7: You think he's older than that? Maybe thirty seven.

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Speaker 5: Well, he was fairly young when he got to the UFC,

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Speaker 5: even though he had a lot of Uh he's born

653
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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty three, so that makes him for forty.

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Speaker 2: Forty years old. Yeah, and you're trying to piss the

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Speaker 2: guy whof is a thirty.

656
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: Teah Yeah, forty years ago, forty years of age. He's

657
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: a man, he's forty.

658
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: I think he fights young. Forty forty's no joke, man,

659
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: especially for the light aweight guys. You know. So, I

660
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: don't know.

661
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: I think the guys I put him in the Hall

662
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: of Fame tomorrow. That's going to be hard. That's going

663
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: to be a hard record to beat.

664
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Speaker 3: Man.

665
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: What's he got forty three forty four fights in the UFC.

666
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, forty three professional wins, twenty six wins in the

667
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: UFC is just a remarkable feat. I remember when Stephan

668
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 5: Struve said that he was going to be the first

669
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: UFC fighter to fifty appearances, and I'm not sure Jim

670
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 5: Miller is going to get to fifty.

671
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 7: He's got to get close.

672
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: But I do believe, as I said earlier, Ray like

673
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: these records are going to stand the test of time. Like,

674
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's goet. We got a few guys

675
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: who are close right now. Even Neil Magne potentially could

676
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: get to twenty six or twenty seven UFC wins. But

677
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: Jim Miller is the only guy I can see getting

678
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: the thirty UFC wins before he hangs him up.

679
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: I mean, which is I mean, listen your test leaders

680
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: for fifty times. I think you get a jacket. This

681
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: guy's almost a fifty fights in New YUFC. I think

682
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: that's pretty pretty fucking cool. They got to do something

683
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: with him because I don't know, I thought I thought

684
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: he was great.

685
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Man.

686
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: It's not like he's not getting hit, you know, he's

687
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: walking through those punches. He still has a great chin,

688
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 4: great wayness, tenacious, pushing forward.

689
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Pats off to Jim Miller.

690
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: Man, whatever you're doing passes the secret because I think

691
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: he's looking he's looking phenomenal.

692
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: Kenny and I reserved our conversation on Manel Cops weight

693
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: miss until you came on the air, So I do

694
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: want to get to that in a minute. But you

695
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: might have heard what we were saying about Jim Miller

696
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: with regards to UFC three hundred. This a man who

697
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: competed at UFC one hundred. You have C two hundred.

698
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: One of these thirty or so slots in UFC three

699
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: hundred is going to be reserved for Jim Miller. Any

700
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 5: name on the tip of your tonguere he asked to

701
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: who you'd like to see Jim Miller in there come

702
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 5: April thirteen.

703
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: I had no name on the tip of my tongue.

704
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: But he's not going to turn down any fight man,

705
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: what do you want? So right, No, you're right, he's definite,

706
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: definitely a company man for sure, to the extreme.

707
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: All right.

708
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: So those of our longtime listeners certainly remember that you

709
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: were there with Kenny Florian in Vancouver when he was

710
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: cutting weight for his featherweight debut against Diego NOONEZ back

711
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: in twenty eleven and if you are a first time listener.

712
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Kenny, but I need to be a man

713
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: of veracity here. Kenny was essentially staring death in the face.

714
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: They were like holding his brother Keith back, who was

715
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: trying to go get his brother out of the sauna

716
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: so he didn't fucking perish in there. And Ray Longo

717
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: had a front row seat to a lot of this.

718
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: So I bring it up in the context of the

719
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: second UFC weight miss forman l Cop this weekend. And

720
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not an analyst in mmam a play

721
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: by play guy, but it doesn't mean I can't be

722
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: critical in certain spots. And I think there is criticism

723
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: to be levied at Manel Cop. You're a title contender

724
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: that a lot of people want to see fight for

725
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 5: the title. This is a huge setback as far as

726
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 5: I'm concerned.

727
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Right, Not only that, and when you have a big

728
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: mouth like Manuel Cape, does you got to back that

729
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: ship up?

730
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 7: I love Manuel Cape.

731
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Well wait, you know what what what how do you pronounce.

732
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 7: It manel Cop?

733
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: Like?

734
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: Uh, cop cop? Yeah, I don't know the E is

735
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: at at the end of the bait. You pronounced the

736
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: a no cop all right?

737
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: Uh? But what do I know? I failed English?

738
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Uh?

739
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: Now, I mean when you talk like he talks and

740
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: you have that type of bravado, me, you got to

741
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: back that ship up. And this is when it looks man.

742
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: If he never said anything, you didn't know who the

743
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: guy was, it maybe passes by a little easier. But

744
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: the fact that he's so outspoken and I like Cop,

745
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: I really do. I think he's a great fighter.

746
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

747
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: But you gotta, you gotta, you gotta make the wait man,

748
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: you can't. It's just so unprofessional and you've been around

749
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: for so long.

750
00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

751
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: Unless he was sick of something you know happened, that's

752
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: kind of excusable. But that's a really shitty.

753
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: Look for him.

754
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 7: Kenny, I just have to get in here for a second.

755
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 5: If you are sick, right, you may get the benefit

756
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: of the doubt if you have not missed weight prior.

757
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 5: Now I believe it was before the Oday Osbourne fight.

758
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: Menel Cop ended up having a huge KO and Oday

759
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: Osborne perhaps waywardly took that fight. So it's hard to

760
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: blame Niko Lau for not taking this fight given the

761
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: weight miss for Manel Cop. You can harken back to

762
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 5: Stephen Wanner Boy Thompson against Michelle Padata. Right, when you

763
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 5: see a guy missweight by that many pounds and produce

764
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 5: knockouts prior, you know, sometimes it's hard to go through

765
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 5: with the fight.

766
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: I support Nico Allow's decision. Yeah, absolutely, I'm with you

767
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: on that. I think that.

768
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 6: This this sport and every win is so damn important

769
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: that you don't want to give up any of those

770
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 6: huge advantage. Listen, if it's like one or two pounds,

771
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 6: I get it, But why would you put yourself at

772
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 6: a disadvantage like that, Because it's not like the UFC

773
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: turns around or any or the organization for that matter,

774
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: turns around goes you know what, We're not gonna really

775
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: count that as a loss. We're gonna give you that

776
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 6: next opportunity and move you.

777
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: Up the ladder. It never works out that way. They

778
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: never just erase a loss, and that l.

779
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 6: Is forever on your Wikipedia page, and you know, from

780
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: anl COP, I think it's it's just unprofessional.

781
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: This is a guy who's a very talented dude, and

782
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: I get it.

783
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 6: Listen, I probably fought at least four fights on antibiotics

784
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 6: with you know, whether it's a staff infection.

785
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: I was dealing with and I used to bloat like crazy.

786
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: I would retain water like crazy.

787
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 6: If I got on a plane ride, if someone was

788
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 6: eating spaghetti next to me, if I took antibiotics like

789
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: it was so much harder for me to cut weight.

790
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 6: I understand that process, but I still did it as

791
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 6: shitty as it was. And no, now Cap needs to

792
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 6: understand he needs to go in there do his job.

793
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 6: But anyways, hey, Ray, you know we have these big

794
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 6: fights obviously this week again Manned championship fight out one

795
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty five pounds. Before I get your thoughts

796
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 6: on how the fight is going to go down, what

797
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 6: do you think about the fact that a champion or

798
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 6: when you kind of break through and you become a champion,

799
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 6: especially when you beat someone like an Israel out of Sonia,

800
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 6: what does that do for the confidence of that new champion?

801
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 6: Right like when Widman? I see Widman in a similar

802
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 6: situation when he defeated Anderson Silla for the first time.

803
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: What does that do to a fighter? Teddy Atlas talks

804
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 6: about that thirty percent improvement when you break through.

805
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Do you think that's true?

806
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 6: And how do you think this plays into Sean Strickland's

807
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: mentality in this fight.

808
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: Oh man, it has to be a huge booster. And

809
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: and what Widman too, let me to after he beat

810
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: Andison Silva. You know, at the press conference, he was

811
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: almost disassociated with everything when he was sitting up there

812
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: and they asked him, what about a rematch? He say,

813
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: let's do it, like he couldn't give a shit about

814
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: anything when Widman was really Widman just it was a

815
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: it was a different feel man, it really was. But

816
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: he said up there just the next fight, I don't

817
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: he didn't have a shit who he gave him and

818
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: he was gonna do it again. And he did do

819
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: it again. So with that being said, I you know,

820
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: I think I think Strickland's a different cat man. I

821
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: think he's I agree. I do agree with Teddy though.

822
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: You know, whatever the percentage is, you have to you

823
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: have to draw energy from a win like that, you

824
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But he's gonna go here's the

825
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 4: problem to He's gonna go from a highly highly technical

826
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: guy to a guy that's gonna try to make this

827
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: like it's just a complete chaotic mess. And I think

828
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: Strickland has the cardio. Uh definitely if the other guy

829
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: gets tired, it will be a bad night for him.

830
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 4: But uh, there's a big, strong guy who I had

831
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: no I wasn't given any chance to coming up, and

832
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: then he just started winning fights. He just always looked

833
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: like he was gassing a little bit. He had the

834
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: nasal problem. Not the most technical guy. But some of

835
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: those guys, can he have bricks in their hands too.

836
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: You know, they Hey, he's got a brick. I think

837
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: he's got a brick for a head as well.

838
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 6: Like he was walking through he was walking through those

839
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 6: shots against Whitaker, continue to come forward like a juggernaut.

840
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: Do you think he's able to do this against Strickland?

841
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 6: Because Strickland's more of a technical striker, right, It's like

842
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 6: the accumulation of blows is as.

843
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: We get you yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

844
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: Do you think Strickland can put drick Is his lights out?

845
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: Based on what you see?

846
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: I think what I said, I think if drick Is

847
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 4: maybe not at the beginning, but if Dricks gets tired,

848
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: this guy's go.

849
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: Listen. You gotta remember, Strickland's just as far in fifteen

850
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: rounds in a row. He's not.

851
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: That's not going to rattle him. But if you watch

852
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: his barring, it's all. I never see it with the

853
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: grappling put in. I always see the stand up, and

854
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: he could do that forever I got guys in the gym.

855
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: I think the kind of similar that could do that.

856
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 4: But that's what the way it looks that he's a

857
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: steady eddy guy.

858
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

859
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: But you know the guy loves the fight. He's really

860
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: really good. But the takedown defense will be tested. And

861
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: if the other guy doesn't have the caudio like a

862
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: morob to keep going and going and going, he's out

863
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 4: winning the fight. But if he can get it done

864
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 4: like early and get in there and make it dirty,

865
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: which I don't even think he tries to do. I

866
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: just think it's who he is.

867
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Man. I'm excited for the fight though, Man, I really

868
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: want to see it.

869
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: I am too.

870
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: There's a phrase in sports, you know, ice water in

871
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 5: his veins, about a fighter or an athlete just able

872
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: to rise to any occasion and sort of check pressure

873
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: in its proper place. And those visuals that I have

874
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 5: reference of Sean Strickland as Israel Ada SONI was making

875
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: that walk in Sydney, are embedded upon my brain. I

876
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: just find it hard to believe that this moment is

877
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 5: going to be too big for Sean Strickland. One thing

878
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: I wanted to throw your way if I could so,

879
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 5: Duke Rufus. There was a video that was purposed on

880
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 5: Instagram this weekend from twenty twenty five years ago about

881
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: Duke roof Is talking about defense and martial arts as

882
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 5: self defense, and he talked about all the great martial artists, right,

883
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: Wrestlers can't get taken down. Jiu jitsu, guys at the

884
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 5: highest level don't get submitted. You know, strikers at the

885
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: highest level, right, their defense is great. Floyd Mayweather, you

886
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: couldn't hit him. I feel like Sean Strickland's defense is

887
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 5: sort of an underrated component in the lead.

888
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 7: Up to this fight.

889
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: I just feel like that tight high guard in his

890
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 5: ability to sort of minimize damage against athletes not named

891
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: Alex put Ada that just have that otherworldly power and

892
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: sophistication when it comes to their striking. I feel like

893
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 5: Sean Strickland's defense could be absolutely huge and trying to

894
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: extend dupless and minimizing some of the early damage. Rayman

895
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 5: any thoughts on that, No, one hundred percent.

896
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: The guy's got great defense.

897
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Look, he's got the Philly shell down and he looked

898
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: he knows himself, he knows what he could do. The

899
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: only problem I see is that there's no way to

900
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: train for like a dupless you know what I mean.

901
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 4: He just looks that awkward to me. He really from

902
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 4: the first time I saw him. I think maybe he's

903
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: getting a little better, but it's the awkwardness how he

904
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: deals with that. He's gonna He's not going to go

905
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: in there and like out box him. From a boxing standpoint,

906
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: that's not happening.

907
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: But who knows.

908
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: He starts getting punched in the elbow, the shoulder, you know,

909
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: he's getting bugged over the head. This is I got

910
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: to see how it plays out in like the first

911
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: couple of minutes. I think we'll get a great idea.

912
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's used to what this guy

913
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: is gonna bring though, which is just it looks like

914
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: chaos to me. But I think Strickland walks right through that.

915
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: I think he's a natural fighter. I do think that,

916
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, winning that title and the manner that he did, Man,

917
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: if that doesn't get him twenty to thirty percent mentally better,

918
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: nothing ever will. So he's got a lot of good

919
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: things going into this fight, but he's if he was

920
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 4: fighting a more traditional guy, I say, I go Strickland,

921
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, one hundred percent still Strickland.

922
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Still, you know, I still think we'll win the fight.

923
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: But it's the awkwardness and the craziness of some of

924
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: these guys that throws you off.

925
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: But it'll only throw them more for a couple of minutes.

926
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 4: I think he'll pick up on it, and he'll find

927
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: the holes in that guy's game pretty quickly and take

928
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: advantage of it.

929
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: We are going to get a main event prediction from

930
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 5: Ray Longo here before we get him on out of there.

931
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: But I just want to sort of talk about this

932
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: fight in terms of fan enthusiasm, right because Kenny and Ray,

933
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 5: you guys know how excited I get for every singular

934
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 5: UFC title fight. But I'd be lying to our audience

935
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: if I looked into the camera and said, I am

936
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: as excited for Maida Buenos Silva and Raquel Pennington as

937
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 5: I am for Sean Strickland and Dracs. But I am

938
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: so excited for this UFC Midleway Championship fight. And I

939
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: think part of it, even though I put Izzy on

940
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: a pedestal, is that Kenny. This is the first Middleway

941
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 5: championship fight since twenty seventeen Michael Bisping versus George Saint

942
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: Pierre that doesn't feature the last stylebender Israelatasnia. So I

943
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: think part of the overwhelming excitement from the fan base

944
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 5: for this main event at UFC two ninety seven is

945
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: that it just feels new and fresh. Whereas we've had

946
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 5: a you know, we have had some midway title stinkers

947
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 5: out of Sonya Cannoneer comes to mind, right, but this

948
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: matchup cam Flow just feels bulletproof as far as your

949
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 5: entertainment value.

950
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

951
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 6: Both guys are just extremely aggressive. You have a new

952
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 6: champion here, We're not quite sure how he's going to

953
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 6: look against this very unique style from DDP. You know,

954
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of different ways that this

955
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: fight can go as well. I mean, I was a

956
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 6: little bit late starting the show just because I was

957
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 6: looking at I was doing my tape study and I'm

958
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: still like, gosh, what the hell is going to happen here?

959
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: So yet to make my pick, but yeah, I think

960
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: it's a fascinating fight for all of those regions. Man,

961
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 6: we have new blood in that division and these are

962
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: two aggressive fighters who love to move forward, who do

963
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 6: take different approaches as well, and I think that's going

964
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 6: to be a fascinating fight.

965
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: While last, hey, Red, any idea who's the betting favorite

966
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: right now?

967
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Man?

968
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 4: I would I would say it's I got to go

969
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: with Strickland, but it's about probably pretty close.

970
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 7: Though you're all over it.

971
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: How good are you?

972
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: Sean Strickland minus one thirty five dracs Duplessi is plus

973
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 5: one fourteen Forced to make a prediction here on a Monday,

974
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 5: five or six days out, ray, who do you like

975
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 5: in the main event in Toronto?

976
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: I have to go with Sean Strickland.

977
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: I think he's you know, throughout the years he spawned

978
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: probably every different type of person he could find. He

979
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: seems like that guy, so I don't think he'll be

980
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: that thrown off by it. I think he knows what

981
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: to expect and I'm going to go with with Sean Strickland.

982
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 7: All right, you need to win because you had Johnny

983
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 7: Walker last week.

984
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: I got.

985
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 7: Yes, what did you make a magamet unclia? Pretty good fighter?

986
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: Huh?

987
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: Let me tell you I'm Kenny Dad up a cut

988
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: against the fact. You know you'd rather be knocked out

989
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: because the pain. If that guy felt like he I

990
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: think he would, it would have been better if he

991
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: just got knocked out.

992
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: They get your whole Yeah, that pain had to be dude.

993
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: That was a shot from hell Man.

994
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: Shot oh Man.

995
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: That's a imagine having a free beat like that on

996
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: the guy that's already.

997
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 6: Not his head was bouncing right into the the same

998
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 6: bounced off the cage and came forward and just a bow.

999
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I think uh it because yeah, that was

1000
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: good man, I feel John.

1001
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: But that was a bad bit shot Man.

1002
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 5: Two other things before we let you fly. You know,

1003
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 5: Chris Wadman has a new favorite T shirt. It's the

1004
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: newly designed long Goo Mafia t shirt, available right now

1005
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: at john Anna dot com. You see he's doing al

1006
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: Jamain Serling's podcast and he just can't take that fucking

1007
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: shirt off, right, I tell you, I.

1008
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: Just seen that.

1009
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: That's these guys are funny. But I'd like you to

1010
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: refer refrain from the word mafia. We know there is

1011
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: no such things, John.

1012
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 7: That's right, Well, let me get a little bit of this.

1013
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: Let me let me get a little serious on you,

1014
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 5: because when I've talked about this before, but bro like

1015
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 5: Israe a lot of time he's not gonna wear a

1016
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 5: Eugene Barman T shirt. And part of that is because

1017
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: there's an underlying friction to that relationship. Now that can

1018
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: be good, I mean Bill Belichick and Tom Brady had

1019
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 5: friction and became the greatest duo in NFL history. But

1020
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: the way your guys all wear your merchandise and want

1021
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 5: to rep you loud and proud just speaks to how

1022
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: good a human being you are and the way you've

1023
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: continued to connect across decades and generations of fighters. So

1024
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: I don't have a question here, but when I see

1025
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 5: these guys go out of their way to wear your

1026
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: merchandise or drop your name, it just speaks to how

1027
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: a lead a human being you are and just the

1028
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: overwhelming impact you have had on so many lives in

1029
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 5: that Tri state area. So I hope it's not lost

1030
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 5: on you just how much these guys appreciate you, because

1031
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: I know it's just him wearing a funny T shirt,

1032
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: but it's because these guys have a lot of love

1033
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: for Raymond.

1034
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: Peter Longer ooh man, thank you very much for that. John, Yeah, no, listen,

1035
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: the great it was a great core guys. I do

1036
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: believe like things are changing. I'm getting older, the guys

1037
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: are getting younger. But man, I you know, I was

1038
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: telling the white men around me, I really have missed

1039
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: those days when those guys first walked into the gym.

1040
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 4: And again that was like the two point oh because

1041
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: the Sarah's, the drags, the lukes, I mean, and we

1042
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: had a you know, it's just been a great ride

1043
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: for me as a coach.

1044
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens in the next couple of years.

1045
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: It should be interesting.

1046
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: But man, I really the times I mean, I Quinta

1047
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: walked into that gym as a nineteen year old. They

1048
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: threw him in the octagon with George Sideropolis was who

1049
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: was picked to be the next fifty five champion. What

1050
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: I saw in there was unbelievable, and I just, you know,

1051
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: fell in love with that kid, just the balls and

1052
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: the tenacity and the technique he was. You know, if

1053
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: injuries didn't get out, I think he would have deaf

1054
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: one hundred percent been a champion. But you know, people

1055
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: don't realize he fought probably six seven fights banged up

1056
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 4: when most guys probably couldn't fight. So you know why

1057
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: me coming into the gym, and then you know, and

1058
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: then we grab al Jo and Morob listened. It was

1059
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: a great run. It's a great you know, it was

1060
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: a great period of my life. And these guys, Yeah,

1061
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. I'm surprised when I see it.

1062
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: But I did happen to see that thing with al

1063
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: Jo and why Nurse. I don't even know if that

1064
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: was when. I guess when Chris came in. I don't

1065
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: even know when they did the podcast. But but thank

1066
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: you for that. And I appreciate those guys when they

1067
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: do that type of shit. It's really makes an old

1068
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: guy feel young again.

1069
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 5: Well, when Ken Flow was in La I was trying

1070
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: to get him to open Flory Infusion West, And it

1071
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 5: seems to me like a longer Widenman Mma in Las

1072
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 5: Vegas would have would be an eventuality, right, I mean,

1073
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 5: like you like the snow Ray. I mean, I guess

1074
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 5: you're a guy. They're never going to get out of

1075
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 5: New York, but it seems like you guys should have

1076
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 5: a brick and mortar there in Vegas at some point.

1077
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: Here a man, Yeah, tell you what, Basically, everybody's all

1078
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: over the place at this point, so you know, listen,

1079
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: people got to live their lives, they got to move on.

1080
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: I it sucks because I like, you know, it's almost

1081
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: as like a family.

1082
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: You like everybody, yeah, you know, in the gym together

1083
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: and work and even when Wieman came back and Al

1084
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 4: Joe was dead, Owl's dad. It's it's it's good stuff,

1085
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: you know. Now, you know, the younger guy's got to

1086
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: pick up the slack and hopefully do the same thing.

1087
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 4: But you know, we're in a changing world now. Guys,

1088
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're artist, you know, it's it's

1089
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 4: getting a little wacky.

1090
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Speaker 7: So it is rough out there.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I admire the old school ship. Man, I just do

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Speaker 4: and you know whatever, it's all good. But I don't

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Speaker 4: even know what the question was.

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00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 5: But there was no question really. But before I let

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Speaker 5: you go, I am going to hit you with a

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00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 5: hard hitting question on the way out. What are your

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Speaker 5: expectations for the number one band Away contender may Rob

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Speaker 5: Dwallash Willie against Henry Shudo coming up here in about

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Speaker 5: a month or so, I think.

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Speaker 4: I Look, I haven't been involved with the camp, you know,

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Speaker 4: I talked to you know, obviously I got guys out

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Speaker 4: there to training but I expect him to do the

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Speaker 4: same thing he always does.

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00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: He's just gonna overwhelm him.

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Speaker 4: And I think if Henry's not really prepared for that,

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Speaker 4: I mean he's got to He's got to find a

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Speaker 4: way to stop Morob, right. Uh, so he either asked

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Speaker 4: that wrestle him or he has to knock him out.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's gonna be a hard thing to do.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's knocking him out. I think Morob's

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Speaker 4: got a great shin and Morob throw saw it too,

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Speaker 4: and yeah that that you know, the way he enters

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00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: those Hey, you're gonna get hit like you know, one way.

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Speaker 2: Or the other.

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Speaker 4: So he commits when he goes in there, and uh,

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Speaker 4: you have to catch him out of nowhere, anything to

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Speaker 4: get him. But I think he's just gonna, you know,

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Speaker 4: do the same thing he does to everybody, unless Henry

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Speaker 4: could change that.

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Speaker 5: All right, Ray Long minute every week here on the

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Speaker 5: Aniican Florian podcast. You can find Ray on x at

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo mm A. He's also on Instagram. Ray Long

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Speaker 5: go nine three five eight or something like that. Has

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Speaker 5: the buggetch come in yet?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: So I know the United States Postal Service is not

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Speaker 5: what it once was. But can you please fucking check

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Speaker 5: the mail or have your wife do that? Because I

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Speaker 5: sent this thing two weeks ago. It's January fifth teeth.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting a little nervous.

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00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, really did so in the checks?

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00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: Everybody else there?

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Speaker 2: So the mail? Is that what you're telling?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, remembers anyway. Unbeknownst to me, my wife sent you

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00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 5: a holiday card. So then when I got home from

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: UFC two ninety six, I sent you a holiday card

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Speaker 5: with a check in there. So hopefully you know missus

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00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 5: Longo didn't throw it away his duplicate mail.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

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00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 7: He's gonna text me later today.

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Speaker 2: Anything.

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00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: Anything's possible by well, look, anything's possible in this house though,

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00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 4: so I'm not ruling anything.

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00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: You only get one check, so we're not writing another one.

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00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: That's it.

1147
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: You know you can't.

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00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: There was a there was only three checks in the checkbook.

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Speaker 3: Right, Hey, where's Lucky this week? Are you at the general?

1150
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Now? I'm at the house.

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00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: She Luckily, my wife's home, so she's got a carrald

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Speaker 4: in the KITCHENPI.

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Speaker 2: This is the This was a great show, guys. There

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00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: was no boxing.

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00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 3: Amazing, that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Well, I referenced Heidi Dan earlier, and she called me

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00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 5: this week about my wardrobe for UFC two ninety seven.

1158
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 5: But she did say before I let you go, you

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00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: gotta get Ray Longo a better set up. No dog,

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00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 5: she said she doesn't want the white She said, she

1161
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: doesn't want like the white string on the headphone. Heidi,

1162
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: were working on it. We apologize. Content is king. We're

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00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 5: trying to show up the studio as well.

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Speaker 2: No, I happen to like this equipment a lot.

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00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 3: It looks great.

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00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: It looks I mean, you don't like this. I feel

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00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: like I'm taking oxygen to dude.

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00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: I know That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you know what's horrible? I think I

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: think Cody said, he said phones. You know, look, John,

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00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm jealous when I look at your setup now, it's

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00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: it's absolutely finial. I'm sitting here with this fucking ship.

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: Ohbi look good to get it strained out.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've invested a lot of money into this studio

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00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 5: and a lot of money sort of into uh, into

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00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 5: these visuals, So hopefully it translates.

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Speaker 7: My My visual is getting a little bit blurry.

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00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 5: We're almost there, but Ray long Ago every week here

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Speaker 5: on the pro and the next watch party I think

1180
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: might be Super Bowl weekend.

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00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 7: On that Saturday night, so we'll have you locked and

1182
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 7: loaded there.

1183
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: Because no Anakin Florian podcast watch party would be complete

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00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 5: without the.

1185
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 7: Star of the show.

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Speaker 2: I would love to watch you guys.

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00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 7: It'll be fun.

1188
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: I got I gotta go back and check out how

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00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: it was you started from the prelims right through with.

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 5: Just so just the co main event and the main event.

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00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: So it's quick take, dude, got I think you're gonna

1192
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 5: really enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would have loved to have done that.

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00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: A lot of like debates we against each other on Yeah,

1195
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: it's fun, just a lot of the extreme.

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Speaker 3: We just go There was a lot of John and

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Speaker 3: Jason yeah oh man, Yeah, no.

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Speaker 5: Shortage of monos I Gotic identical twin on Twin Crime.

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Speaker 5: We were going at each other pretty good. We've been

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Speaker 5: fighting a lot recently. That's not why I have this

1201
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 5: little shiner on my right eye though. That's courtesy of

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Speaker 5: my dog. If you want to know, Ray, Yeah, I Ray.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy the rest of your Monday, buddy, and we will

1204
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Speaker 5: talk to you next week to recap UFC two ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, Look, I really enjoyed a nice quiet show.

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Speaker 4: I hope everybody appreciates this.

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Speaker 2: We did too, was huge. My man, there he is y,

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Speaker 2: I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 5: Ray Long a minute every week here on the Anak

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Speaker 5: and Florian Podcast. So, I congratulations to Mario Bautista biggest

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Speaker 5: win of his career against Ricky Simone, Bruno Fajeda as

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00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 5: well over Phil Hawes Kenny, I feel for Phil Hawes man, right,

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 5: like so much desire to be great, so much commitment

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Speaker 5: to be great, so much athleticism to be great. But

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 5: you know, his chin's like on my level, we just

1216
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 5: can't take a shot. And I'm not in the retiring

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 5: fighter business, but you know, maybe give him a wrestler

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Speaker 5: next time out.

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Speaker 7: But it's just real tough.

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Speaker 5: He's had a lot of physical gifts, the commitment is there,

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Speaker 5: but he can't take a shot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all those things are very true unfortunately for Phil.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I think that's what's so frustrating is that

1224
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 6: for guys who have seen him in the gym and

1225
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 6: for what you see, even when he's out there, he

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00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 6: looks fantastic. He looks like he can be a world beater,

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Speaker 6: but without that durability. It's a major vulnerability. And what

1228
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 6: makes things worse is that you have a division right

1229
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Speaker 6: at any division, especially an elite level in the UFC,

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Speaker 6: everybody is a damn shark, and everyone watching tape, everyone's

1231
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 6: studying you, and they're going, I'm just gonna smash you

1232
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 6: in the chin bud and you're out, and you're out,

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Speaker 6: So that you know, it's kind of like the verdict

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Speaker 6: is out on what they need to do against someone

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Speaker 6: like Phil Hawes, and that means that either he needs

1236
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Speaker 6: a break or his defense is going to have to

1237
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 6: be at a completely different level if you want to

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: restructure what he's doing in the UFC. So yeah, unfortunately

1239
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Speaker 6: for him, but that brasilient dude is tough man. There's

1240
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Speaker 6: a reason they call him the Hulk.

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Speaker 5: My goodness, I was just gonna say, sort of been closing,

1242
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: not at all try to take away from Bruno Fhajeda

1243
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 5: forgettable weekend for Phil Hawes, but Bruno Fajeda is certainly

1244
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: a name to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 5: Thank y'all for watching, Thanks to everybody for watching the

1247
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 5: watch party. If you did miss it, we do kindly

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: ask you to check it out. On the anak and

1249
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 5: Flooring Podcast YouTube channel. Let us know what you think.

1250
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 5: If that is something you like it, We'll be back

1251
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: next month for the fight night on Super Bowl weekend. Also,

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Speaker 5: don't forget John annat dot com if you like the

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Speaker 5: merchandise that we are wearing right now. I got the

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Speaker 5: dot com. Don't forget Allow Mohammed Jason Anik. Remember the

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Speaker 5: show live every Thursday on the Anikin Flooring Podcast YouTube channel,

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Speaker 5: Kenny Flooriandmarshal Arts dot com is lib be sure to

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Speaker 5: check that out as well. And as I always say,

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Speaker 5: my favorite Instagram follow right now Arguss Integrated Defense can't

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Speaker 5: let him get close. Thanks to Ray long Ago or

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Speaker 5: executve the producer Cody Merrow. We are back on Wednesday

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Speaker 5: or Thursday. We will talk to sports nets. Aaron Bronsteader

1264
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 5: and Brian Patri and Camflow have predictions for UFC two

1265
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: ninety seven Strickland versus Duke plus see with that for

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00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: canflo John and thank y'all for listening watching, Tell your

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Speaker 5: friends we'll be back.

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Speaker 3: With you later in the week.

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Speaker 7: Until then you'll.

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Speaker 2: Let hey.

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Speaker 4: Day.

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Speaker 3: He's gone bread, mixing the phones in a row. He's

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Speaker 3: a luve, he's a soul.

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Speaker 2: Bread.

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Speaker 3: He's gone bread.

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Speaker 2: He's gone bread.

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Speaker 3: Lay this press to the mess that you can keep

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00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: your hands on. The box in the open. He's gone red.

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Speaker 2: He's gone red.

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Speaker 1: He's going there.