1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, we're back on kind of famous, breaking down 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: for you the best new dating show Love Overboard, and 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: the boat is rocking, y'all because there's a lot of 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: drama to unpack as we recap episodes five and six today. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: All right, Heather, I have so many thoughts. I cannot 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: wait to jump into this episode. So let's start at 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: the top of episode five. Our new top side couple 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: is Delaney and Keith, along with David and Lowe. They're 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: still there hanging on Kari and Leela and Tim and Gia. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: So you know what, I have to take a minute 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: and talk about my girl, Bella. I have a soft spot. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it, but she commented 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: on our social media and I am here for it. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: I want to DM her. I don't want to hold 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: her like a baby and tell her everything is going 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: to be okay, because Bella is feeling Bradley in this episode, 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: but when she asks him if he sees a connection 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: with her, she gets shut down, and I am like 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: devastated for our girl. Bella says that she doesn't get 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: rejected where she's from and she's the it girl of 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: the Midwest. Right now, there isn't a connection with Bradley. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: She's just focusing on winning the next challenge. I was like, 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: so sad for our girl. 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm sad. But also, did you notice like Bradley has 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: kind of disappeared in these recent episodes like this like 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: chit chat with Bella, Like we're not seeing him in interview, 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: We're not seeing him like kind of in the background 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: like talking to people. We're not seeing him flirting with anybody. 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: So I wonder kind of what's going on with Bradley too, 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: And I'm watching it. 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: He's just hungry, Heather. We just see him eating snacks. 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: But I that bit when he is on the couch 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: and like totally dismissing Bella and he's like, oh wait 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: a second, babe, I gotta grab some snacks and he's 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: just pounding hips on the cow. I was like this, 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: I could not think up a better reality television show 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: than what we're getting with Love Overboard, the way he's 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: just gnawing on snacks and she is like, from just 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: like a psychiatrists point of view, and I am not 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: one mind you, I'm just a washed up reality star. 43 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: She is facing him, her posture, she is facing him, 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: she's opening up. You know, she's looking good, she's beautiful. 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: And she is like, so what did you think of me? 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: And he's like, girl, these nuts are so salty? 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Well can I tell you? As I don't like to 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: spoil these things when I see them play out, But 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: that was all an editing trick in that scene. Like, 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't think that she actually like was asking him 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: about feelings at all in that scene because we only 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: see her from the back of her head. We actually 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: don't see her lips move and we're only seeing his response. 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: So to me, that was all like adr like after recording, 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: and I think that they were probably talking about something 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: else because he wasn't even reacting in a way of 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: like somebody that was expressing somebody had feelings for them. So, 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: I mean, as funny as I thought the scene was, 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: I just don't think that's what was happening in the scene. 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Listen, I don't work in television, so for a regular 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: old viewer, I ate it up. Heather, I was like 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: all about it. I was like, dude is enjoying his snacks. 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: He's just there for the good time and some good food. Really, 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He hasn't had a storyline yet, 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: he hasn't had a lot of play. And you know, 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Bella is great TV. She's in a lot of scenes. 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: She's got a lot of really solid one liners. Her 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: little interviews one on one with a producer are so good. 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: She has very good sound bites. I just like, yeah, 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I hook line and sinker. I was your regular old 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: viewer cuddled up on my bed watching it and I 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: loved every second. 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: But don't you think it's weird that like Bradley didn't 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: go for our new shipwreckers that come in this episode, 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: Like he didn't even. 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Attempt Well, that's the thing. I don't know if he's 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: just not great TV and the other guys are. Because 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: there is a bit where he says, you know, oh 79 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: they're so hot he's in. He says Christine, is you 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: know that she's this hot? 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: Whatever he does, I only remember Jake saying that. 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm dreaming it. Then I thought they both were like, 83 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: oh yeah, but. 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: This happens on shows, guys, when you see people sometimes 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: come in and they are funny at first and then 86 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: either they become really boring in the interview chair, so 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: they kind of phase them out and they stop using them. 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: Or sometimes people have issues on set and they are 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: difficult to work with or they're not having fun or whatever, 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: and it's not worth it to try and get them 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: to sit in the interview chair or give them the 92 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: screen time, so they kind of get edited out of shows. 93 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: And I'm actually thinking of a season of Below Deck. 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: I can't remember which one, but they had a stewardess 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: on a season who literally you never saw speak in 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: most of the season, and that's because once she got there, 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: she was like what I heard was that she was 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: completely starstruck by the cameras and just like staring and 99 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: looking around and just was awful in the chair, and 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: they just stopped using her completely and you would only 101 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: see her in the background. Sometimes. 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: I love that we get this perspective from you, because 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: I probably would have. I'm so caught up in my 104 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: other best friends on the show, like Bella, Enna and Andrew. 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm so caught up in them that it doesn't even 106 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: cross my mind to consider what's going on with little 107 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Jakie Pooh, you know what I mean. So I love 108 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: that you have this perspective to bring it, you know 109 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: what I mean, because now I will obsess over it. 110 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: Now I'll have to pay attention. 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 3: Now, look for Bradley in his mustache. Now look at 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: what Jake is doing. Always trying to keep tabs on 113 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: what's going on with everyone, And it's a lot to 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: follow on a show like this, for sure. 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well listen the next day, the 116 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: top Sider couples have a caviar breakfast. I don't eat caviar. 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: I have served it a thousand times on airplanes. But 118 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: I'm just like dying at these people. They probably also 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: have never had caviar. You can tell by their reaction. 120 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: You can tell Leela hasn't for sure. 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way she is gagging at breakfast. 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: I love caviar, but I don't know if i'd be 123 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: having I actually I said I was thinking it, and 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I wouldn't have cavea for breakfast, but 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: actually I would. I've had row on bagels and it's 126 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: absolutely delicious, so I would probably have a caviar bagel. 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: I would expect nothing less on, you know, a yacht 128 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: in the Mediterranean. 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. On the top side, I want lobster, I want champagne, 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: I want caviar for breakfast. 131 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: What else are we doing here day every day? Exactly? 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: It's fine where Gia and Tim. I believe they're getting married. 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: I just do. Gia says that Tim is bringing out 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: her feminine side Heather, and I'm here for it. My 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: brunette Jennifer Lawrence is just her whole aesthetic. I'm buying. 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: Leela feels like her and Kori are doing really well. 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: She feels romantic energy. I'm glad that she feels it 138 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: because I'm not seeing it. I don't know, is that 139 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: just me? 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: I think it's cute. I think it's lovey dovey. And 141 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: then we obviously later in the episode see them like 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: having their first kiss, so I kind of saw it there. 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: But I don't think that they're one of the strongest 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: ones for sure. I think Leela is really young and 145 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: still learning a lot in life in how she reacts. 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: So we'll get I'm in the most dramatic scene. 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Yet in this it happens well. We are moving on 148 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: to our power couple. Low feels confident that she is 149 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: all in for David. So here's where we see it. 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: We've been talking about lo and David from episode one, 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: how they have just come in. They're the mom and 152 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: pop of the boat. Everyone feels solid in their connection. 153 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: David is also feeling pressure to be this power couple 154 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: on the yacht, and David thinks that he and Low 155 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: don't have sexual chemistry. We see that again in this 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: little bit. We start to see, you know, in the 157 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: beginning of episode five, quite a bit of David in 158 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: his personal interviews and bringing up the just I think 159 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: the stress that he is under, you know what I mean. 160 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: He talks a lot about the sexual chemistry, and it's like, 161 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: my dude, it's not been that long to have like 162 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: this frustration over something. I think personally. 163 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: It's not been that long. But I don't know. I 164 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: do have a little bit of empathy because reality TV, 165 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: you lock these people in a room. There's no phones, 166 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: there's no anything else. All they have to do is 167 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: like fall in love. So they're you know, they're spending 168 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: a lot of time together, and it is it is 169 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: apparent that Low and David have spent a lot of 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: time together. We get them quite a bit, we get 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: their their you know, videos of them in their bedroom together. 172 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: They're clearly getting down. They're trying to have sexual chemistry. 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: It looks like they are together a lot of time, 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: So I try to have some empathy in the fact that, 175 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: like it's not a normal dating scenario, like back in 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: the real world, they would have gone on a date 177 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: the first week, then maybe two the next week, then 178 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: they would have slept together, you know what I mean. 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: We're talking in like six hour increments. They're moving so fast, 180 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: so I can kind of see it. But I feel 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: like we have been spending so much time looking at 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: poor David's torturous feelings that are coming up for him 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: because he's so used to plastic as he says, David, 184 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: Poor David, poor low, because she clearly is getting a 185 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: very different side of day than we as viewers are 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: are seeing, you know what I mean? 187 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because David is the ultimate fuck boy in sheep's clothing, 188 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 3: and that is I mean, we can go through it, 189 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: but he What I'm liking more and more about Tim 190 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: is that I'm actually seeing Tim like talking the talk 191 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: and walking the walk. He came in saying that he 192 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: is kind of like a reformed fuck boy or what 193 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: did you call himself? He called himself something along those 194 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: lines that he was like changing his fuck boy ways, 195 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know about this guy. 196 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: I swoon, I swoon. Tim is also winning me over. 197 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim is showing he's changed, and we'll get into 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: it when he has that conversation with David. That's where 199 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this guy is actually like I think, 200 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: growing as a person. David is the ultimate fuck boy. 201 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: He is the one who comes in textbook fuck boy. 202 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: He love bombed the shit out of Low. She's loved 203 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: bombing back, and he's not reacting and that's how, you know, 204 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: like what he's done has like really worked and wrapped 205 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: his you know, wrapped her around his finger. So he's 206 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: love bombed her. He's gotten I think, like we said 207 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: the day that he was really emotional about having to 208 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: go to the hospital and all that, I think that 209 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: was all put on. I think that was just to 210 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: get her into bed because they hadn't slept together yet. 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: I think that he's emotionally manipulative, and I think that 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: he is. I think he's got a really high sex drive. 213 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with having a high sex drive, 214 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: but I think that, like I think that is probably 215 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: what he's equating to incompatibility, is that he clearly likes 216 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: to like get freaky, and I don't think that that's 217 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: who she is. 218 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love this show so much. I 219 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: love this show so much. The casting on point, every 220 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: bit of his on point, and you just like nailed 221 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: it into the coffin. About David, I would imagine he 222 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: probably came into this and said like, Okay, I'm going 223 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: to be an adult now, I'm going to be on television. 224 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a grown up. I'm going to 225 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: do this, and then quickly quickly digressed and realized he 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: could not. 227 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: He delivered it away in when he well, we'll get 228 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: into it, but he talks, he drops a little easter 229 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: egg about his ex and why they didn't work out, 230 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: and again it goes back to fuck boy ways. I 231 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: think whoever cast him knew he was a fuck boy, 232 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: and if they did their job, well, you ask nine 233 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: million ways about their past relationships when they're interested in 234 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And so I think anybody with the 235 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: person who found David knew exactly who he was, that 236 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: he'd come in here and put on this facade of 237 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: who he is because that's part of his game. There 238 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: are fuck boys that are outright and open like a 239 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:05,239 Speaker 3: like a James. James is kind of like a juvenile boy, 240 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: My sweet James. I love him. Think he's horny, you know, 241 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: but he's ready to change his ways. That's a juvenile 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: fuck boy. David is a grown fuck boy. He's a 243 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: fuck fun okay, and that is those are the scary ones. 244 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: That he's the one who acts like he's got a 245 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: good job, that he's emotionally intelligent, that he's got it 246 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: all together, that he only has eyes for one woman, 247 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: these eyes for one woman right now. 248 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: And I said this that the writing was on the 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: wall that this couple was going to get broken up, 251 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: and oh, for sure, they do. 252 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: You do? You called it? We have to talk about 253 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: So for those listening, I was dying when I watched 254 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: this episode. I was texting Heather NonStop, and she was like, 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: please don't tell me, Please don't tell me, please and 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: tell me. We need to just like coordinate our schedules, Heather, 257 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: so that we watch it at the same time, because 258 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: I need to know that you are dying at the 259 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: same time that I am dying. We have to talk 260 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: about our boy Andrew. We get this montage of him 261 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: talking about his hair and making sure that his hair 262 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: looks so good and that he wants a haircut. We 263 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: start to see him also unravel a bit, like we 264 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: knew that he was full of himself, and that's putting 265 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: it nicely. 266 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: He's a special one, that Andrew. 267 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: He really I love him too. I love all of them. 268 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: I just want to bring them to southern California and 269 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: move them in and just like live life with all 270 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: of my friends. 271 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: I know. The show is predominantly humorous, which is so 272 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: funny because a lot of them do have very funny personalities, right, 273 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't say David has a funny personality, but 274 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: Gia has said funny stuff. Obviously, Bella has been the 275 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: funniest on the whole shit gold Andrew's funny. Leela has 276 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: said some funny stuff, and so it's it's a really 277 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: enjoyable show when they're all like doing silly things. But 278 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Andrew is so dead serious about getting a haircut and 279 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: then has an absolute freaky meltdown later in the episode 280 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: and like insists on calling his mom which is like. 281 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: His mommy is his mommy, And. 282 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: He tells producers like he has to call his mommy. 283 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: He has to and like people are not allowed to 284 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: call anybody on these shows, like it is like one 285 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: of the biggest, Like you only get to call if 286 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: it's a straight up emergency, and this was an emergency. 287 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: Hether we hear the disdain in his voice. He is 288 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: he is like in distress. Tell them what the emergency 289 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: was about. 290 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: That he got a haircut on the boat and they 291 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: butchered his sideburns. 292 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: I will say when he said it, I noticed he 293 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: didn't have any side burns. They would like they went away, 294 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: like put them all off. 295 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Also, I'm just imagining a producer who is severely underpaid 296 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,479 Speaker 2: in a back room with her you know, nasal clippers, 297 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: and she is trimming up his sideburns because he's about 298 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: to have a meltdown and will not go on camera 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: to woo Christine. And they really need these shipwreckers to 300 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: be wooed. And she is in this back room and 301 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: accidentally sneezes and butchers his sideburns. And he is this 302 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: vein that he is so devastated he cannot be a 303 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: part of the episode. He cannot bear to let Christine 304 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: see him with his hair this messed up. But he's 305 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: in his thirties, and I am living for every moment 306 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: of him laying in his twin sized bunk bed calling 307 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: his mommy to tell her what is he supposed to do? 308 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: But then the response from his mommy, Like, I imagine 309 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: myself twenty years from now Austin calling me and being like, mom, mom, 310 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: what do I do for this? And I just the 311 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: way she was like, what do you want me to do? Andrew? 312 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: Man up? Why are we crying? 313 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: But you could tell that's a that's a phone call 314 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: she's gotten before, and that is something she has said 315 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: to him before. That was not a one time thing. 316 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Is the mommy the hairdresser? Like I could if that's 317 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: the connection? Is is mommy the one who does his hair? No? 318 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: I think his. I think his. I think he has 319 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: very few people in his life to call during times 320 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: of stress and he has to call his mom. I mean, 321 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: I will tell you that this, this this saga of 322 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: men getting their haircut while filming these TV shows is 323 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: a real thing. This is an issue I've had. I've 324 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: done several shows, several dating shows where men are like 325 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: I get my haircut every two weeks or every ten days, 326 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: I get my haircut. Will there be a barber on 327 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: set to cut my hair, and we will be like, no, no, 328 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: there's no barber, and then they will have to wherever 329 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: the local places that they're filming, they will hire a 330 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: barber to come on midway through filming on these shows 331 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: to trim up the men, because they will get very 332 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: annoyed if they don't have somebody come and trim them up. 333 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: And they always are annoyed by whoever does it because 334 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: it's not their hometown barber, and it's not the person 335 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: that they go to all the time. So I've heard 336 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: several guys on my shows at the rat parties or 337 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: whatever be like, oh man, that barber butchered my fade. 338 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: Oh I look so stupid in this Da da da 339 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: da like Andrew. They don't go to extremes is calling 340 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: their mom like Andrew did. But I have heard this 341 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: so many times on my shows that I've done. It's 342 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: a real thing, Oh my god, because these are manicured men. 343 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: These are men that, like, really, do you know, pay 344 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: attention a lot to their physique and their outward appearance, 345 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: which is totally fine, that's their prerogative. It's the same 346 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: way when women on these shows ask if there's going 347 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: to be glam included or somebody to fix their hair 348 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: or something. 349 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: I must have been the cheapest person that they put 350 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: on The Bachelor and the Bachelorette. I did not ask 351 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: for any of these things. So when I hear this stuff, 352 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: I find it so mind blowing. I remember when I 353 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: was on the Bachelorette, like once we got down to 354 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: like I don't know, we went to the Bahamas or something, 355 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: and I remember them saying, Hey, we can't afford to 356 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: take hair and makeup. Do you want us to find 357 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: a local And I was like, yeah, no, I don't 358 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: want a strange local person I don't know doing my 359 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: hair and makeup. I'll just do it myself. Like that's 360 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: how low key I am. At one point, I was 361 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: like waxing my own armpits in the bathroom of a 362 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: hotel rather than asking them to take me to a salon. 363 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: Like I just I'm maybe I'm stupid, maybe something is wrong. 364 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't call you that, but I would definitely say 365 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 3: that they got one over on you, because that is 366 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: a large network television show that you know owns Mickey Mouse. 367 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: They got money for glam. Sorry, yeah, sorry that they 368 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: tricked you with that one. 369 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: I listen. 370 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: We do get into our first challenge though of the episode, 371 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: which is storm the Castle. So for this all the 372 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: women are going to be competing, and this is when 373 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: we get two new shipwreckers. We get Val and Christine. 374 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: Christine she's twenty six and she will do a lot 375 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: of crazy things for love. She even hit a relationship 376 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: for two point five years. Christine, you're too pretty for that. 377 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: You definitely hiding a relationship and it sounds like that 378 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: was something you didn't necessarily want to do. We also 379 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: get Foul, she's twenty six, and you know, Val comes 380 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: in showing off all of her best assets, and she 381 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: says that people don't usually guess that she's a chemist. 382 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed that either. 383 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't anticipate her being super smart. 384 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I anticipated her to not be smart, 385 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't have anticipated her to be in that 386 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: field of work. And I would like to know what 387 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: kind of chemist she is, because like what she's doing, 388 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 3: because she kind of drops it and never talks about 389 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: it again, and it's like. 390 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Well, so here we go being the delusional human being. 391 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 2: I am my mind went to she's a makeup artist 392 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: or she is a mixologist. You know, those bartenders are 393 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: now calling themselves like chemists mixologists because they created a 394 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: side drink to a sex on the beach. 395 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: If somebody is a freaking mixologist coming on a national 396 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: show and calling themselves a chemist, that person is going 397 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: to get their ass handed to them, doesn't matter how 398 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: BBL gorgeous their ass happens to be. Like Valves, no, 399 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: I think she's a chemist. She could be a chemist, 400 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: like at a university. She could be a chemist, you know, 401 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to I could see her being a 402 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: makeup chemist. Honestly, I could see her being a chemist 403 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: when it comes to a makeup brand. But I would 404 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: love for her to expand a little bit more on that, 405 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 3: because she kind of used it as like a one 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: note and then like never really talked further about it. 407 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: She'd be like, she was just like, yeah, people, are 408 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: you know, surprised that I'm a chemist. It's like, yeah, 409 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: tell me more. 410 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: I wonder if she did tell more and they didn't 411 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: air it because she couldn't talk about it, because it 412 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: makes me wonder. We go back to the episode where 413 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: David talks about being a child's psychologist. Why if I 414 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: saw this show, I would never take my child to 415 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: see him. 416 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: Especially not after this episode. 417 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: Especially not after this episode. 418 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't expect them her to say, 419 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: like exactly who she works for, but I would expect 420 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 3: her to say, you know, how long she went to 421 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: school for it, or how or why she got into 422 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: it because her family is scientists or something. I don't know. 423 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: Maybe she will later, but yeah, they're not really focusing 424 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: on a whole lot other than these people are hot 425 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: and horny and single. So David obviously right off the bat, 426 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: thinks you know, Val is typically his type. Andrew recognizes 427 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: Christine from a night out at the club a year ago, 428 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: and Jake is also immediately into Christine, so we have 429 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: a little semi love triangle right there. So going back 430 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: to the challenge, the Downside girls can challenge a top 431 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: side girl. The fastest one to finish the race, which 432 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: is scaling the wall wins, So again they get to 433 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: choose if they want to challenge. So Christine chooses to 434 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: challenge Gia for tim. Gia absolutely smokes her and she 435 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: does not win. No one challenges Leela for Kari and 436 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: then Val challenges Low for David, and Low is immediately insecure. 437 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: She is just going like, I'm gonna tell this girl, 438 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: like this girl just showed up. She doesn't know anybody, 439 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: she doesn't know anybody's name, she doesn't know anybody's status 440 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 3: or whatever. And Low's like, I'm going to tell this 441 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: girl like we're in love. FYI like, just so you know, 442 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: I know you just got off this boat, but like 443 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: we're in love. 444 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: These are where my cringe moments start. I hate to 445 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: see this unraveling of Low because she is such a 446 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: beautiful girl, and because we are getting the pieces where 447 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: we see the different side of David. I hate to see. 448 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: I have too much pride, Heather, to do this. I 449 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: have far too much pride to go crawling for a man. 450 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: But listen, I'm single and I'm forty four, so there's 451 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: also that. But these start really big cringe moments for me. 452 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: For Low, she. 453 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 3: Got in too deep, too quick with this guy and 454 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: now drowning in her own obsession and love for him. 455 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: But hey, it kicks her ass into high gear and 456 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: she scales that wall and Low wins. Lexi and Bella 457 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: challenged Delaney for Keith they're not necessarily interested in Keith. 458 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: They just want to get their shot at coming to 459 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: the Top Side. 460 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: Well, they're not necessarily athletic either, Heather. 461 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: No, they're not. And poor Bella, she really had like 462 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: a vision she was gonna win this challenge. She really 463 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: like was going at it, and she definitely got herself 464 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: tangled in the ropes and then knocked Lexi out of 465 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: the competition and they could lose. So none of the 466 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: Top Side couples have to go down to the Downside 467 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: after this because all of the Top Side girls. 468 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: Won their man I was a little like, oh, I 469 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: wanted to shake things up a bit, but I am 470 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: satisfied with our shipwreckers. That really shakes things up, you 471 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I was like tooth and 472 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: nail when the two of them walked out, I'm like, yeah, 473 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: here we go. Let it begin. And it does. In 474 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: the Downside, Heather, Jake and Andrew are both interested in 475 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: Christine and they they're ready to see who she likes 476 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: the best. This makes me so uncomfortable, just the threesome 477 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: thing that they have going on. It makes me so 478 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: very uncomfortable. And the clips too that they show where 479 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: they're like in the one little tiny room with the 480 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: little twin bunk bed, and like you can see Jake 481 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: and Christine. But we see another moment where like Andrew 482 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: is just he doesn't see it. He catches on a 483 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: little bit quicker this time, but he's I would never 484 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: Heather would never sit in a room like that with 485 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: a person that I liked and watch them co noodle 486 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: with another person. I would never subject myself to that. 487 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: Andrew is not that sharp. He he really is not 488 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: able to read the room. I mean, I do like 489 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 3: what he ends up doing later with Enna and like 490 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: just kind of succumbing to what the reality is of 491 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: his situation. But he it takes him a minute to 492 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: get there for sure. 493 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I have too much pride. I need to 494 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: talk to Andrew after that. I think I'm gonna start 495 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: harassing him on social media. Anyway. Val has her eyes 496 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: on David. We see this. We know this from the 497 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: second she walks in. He's been talking about his type 498 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: and she walks in and I'm like, here we go. 499 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: It's getting good. She's in the game for herself. Bella 500 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: is bummed because there are no connections for her and 501 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: she's never been on the top side or one a challenge, Heather, 502 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: this makes her cry again, and I am like devastated 503 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: for our girl she feels. And this is where like 504 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: you just pull on my heartstrings because I do am 505 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: a damaged girl. She feels unwanted and unlovable. And here 506 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: we're seeing this. And this is the magic of television, right. 507 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: We take all these people, we put them on TV. 508 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: She is missing the emotional and physical connection with you know, 509 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: a man, which is her hopes when she got there. 510 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: But she also hasn't won a challenge, so she's not 511 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: feeling super great about herself. But in this moment, what 512 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: we get and I will not tell you that I 513 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: shed it's here, but what we get is real raw, 514 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. What she does is pull 515 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: on the heartstrings of viewers and especially women in particular, 516 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: because at some point in our life we've all been there. 517 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: We have all felt unwanted by a man or a 518 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: woman for that matter. We have felt unwanted, unlovable, or 519 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: not chosen. And that's exactly what they do in that moment. 520 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 3: I know, and I think that I've been rooting for 521 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: Bella to find somebody, and they're just not bringing in 522 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: the right kind of amount of matches, or people like Bradley, who, 523 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: like I said, have just disappeared into the shadows and 524 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: is not willing to play the game. Like I don't 525 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: know what Bradley's doing, but it's not like canoodling with 526 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: a bunch of the girls. 527 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: He's not conoodling with anyone. 528 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: He's just eating chips or whatever. So I think that 529 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: Bella is like, Okay, if this guy doesn't even want 530 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: to pretend or play have fun with me, then what 531 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: am I doing here? Because I really don't like being 532 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: on the downside, and I don't blame her. I wouldn't 533 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: want to be signing up for a show and then 534 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: find out all I'm doing is having to stay on 535 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: the bottom deck in my little no window bunk room, 536 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: Like who wants that? 537 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: No? No, you get like nauseous and seasick. I don't know. 538 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: My heart broke for her. You start to see that, 539 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: and I at that moment was like, man, I hope 540 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: she rides out on top. I really do. We move 541 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: on to our happy hour. These are some of my 542 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: most favorite moments in the show because we just get 543 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: to see, you know, the mingling of all of our friends. 544 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: That's what we're calling them from now on. Heather Low 545 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: doesn't like that Vallas flirting with David. We know Low 546 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: is not going to like it because she has claimed 547 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: dibbs on her man, but we just I'm living for 548 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: every moment of what this downplay is going to be, 549 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: Like Andrews, let's lo. 550 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: For a second, for a second, here, girl, this is 551 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: your man, and he's saying in front of you, yeah, 552 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: I'll go chat with this girl. Yeah, no problem. He's 553 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: not saying, Hey, this girl right here, she's the one 554 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: that I'm actually super coupled up with, So let me 555 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: chitchat with her real quick before I come and like 556 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: chit chat with you, or Hey, why don't you come 557 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: and sit with us and like chat with us together. 558 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: He's being blatantly disrespectful to you girl, to her face, 559 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: in front of your face, and you're just letting it happen. 560 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: And then you're misappropriating your anger to the woman in 561 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: this situation. And this is what a clinical fuck boy 562 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: will do to you. He will make you turn on 563 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: another woman who you don't even know because he has 564 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: whipped you and he's making you look like a fool. 565 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: I hate to see it. I hate to see it, 566 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like Val walked in what 567 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: a half an hour ago, and it's all her fault. 568 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: She is playing the game like that's what they're meant 569 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: to do. They come, they get on a yacht, there's 570 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: hot people, date them, do whatever. She's playing the game right, 571 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 2: and Lo is mad at the wrong person for doing that. 572 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Lo, this is like a huge, mortifying, embarrassing 573 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: lesson for you that you, I hope will never ever 574 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: forget again because this guy had red flags all over 575 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: him and oh my god, I just it just gets 576 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: so much worse from here. 577 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: I have I have so many thoughts as we go 578 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: on and as we see them all come back together, 579 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: and then you know, we know the show, the whole 580 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: thing is out on Hulu. I have so many thoughts 581 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: as to I would love to talk to Low. I'd 582 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: love to talk to her and hear her thoughts on 583 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: what she thinks now after seeing it all playback, what 584 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: would she have done differently? 585 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: We have to wait until we see next week's episode, 586 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: like the next set of episodes as well, because we'll 587 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: get to that how this how episode six ends when 588 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: we get there. 589 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Heather, Leela and Kari they have their 590 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: first kiss. They do it. I don't know why it 591 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: was such a built up moment, but like afterwards, I 592 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: felt like, oh, that was it. 593 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Kari is very cute, Leela is very cute, 594 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: but Karai is very PG energy to me on this show. 595 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: I think he's like one of the Him and Keith 596 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: I think are very even keeled, and. 597 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: They're so safe. They're very safe. 598 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: They're very stoic. They're not overtly sexual, and so many 599 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: people on this cast are overtly sexual, so they kind 600 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: of just feel very like playing in vanilla. Maybe they 601 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: aren't like that in real life, but they are in 602 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: this environment. Yeah. 603 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the whole thing too, Like some 604 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: people shine and some people just don't. They get lost. Right, 605 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: here's the moment that I've been waiting for. Heather. In 606 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: this episode, we see Val. She pulls David for a chat. 607 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: They talk about their past relationships. Low comes to interrupt them. 608 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: This is where I start to feel really gross. I 609 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: start to feel really really gross. Low comes. She interrupts 610 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: the conversation. David doesn't like seeing this insecure side of Low, 611 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: which I like it all makes me feel gross because 612 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: he has created the monster. Right. 613 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: He also says he doesn't like it, and then fucking 614 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: excuse me, doubles down and does something totally wrong right after, 615 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: which only reassures her that how she's acting is appropriate. 616 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: So he's totally He's created this chaos and he can 617 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: say all he wants it. He doesn't like this insecurity, 618 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: but he is fucking salivating over two girls vying for 619 00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 3: his attention. 620 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: They cut to him. He is smiling. 621 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: Heather in love with it. He's in love with it. 622 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: He's in love with it. She comes up and says 623 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: that we're in love, which is psychotic. 624 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: At one point in her interview is she's like, we're 625 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: in love or getting married and we're with child. 626 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: But she also says it in front of him. She's like, 627 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: we're in love, and she's like talking to this girl, 628 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: and it's like, you're psychotic, low. You just actually met 629 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: this guy like a week and a half ago. You 630 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: don't love him, you don't know him, and he has 631 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: messed with your head. He has made you, he has 632 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: made you. You're a very smart woman, and he's making 633 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 3: you look dumb. 634 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: We also see Val say the same thing. She has 635 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: the wherewithal to say, girl, you've known him for like 636 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: four days, calm down. 637 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very territorial and weird. And then David takes 638 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: this as a moment to be like, hey, lo, will 639 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: you be my girlfriend? And it's like this is just 640 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 3: helping to continue you the weird chaos that's going on 641 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: up here in her head. 642 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: It's like he just he's trying to reassure her to 643 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: keep her attached, but he's just creating more and more chaos, 644 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: and she is gobbling it up. Heather, she is, I mean, 645 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 2: she's she is like hooked, hooked has been since day one. 646 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: And uh, he's just it's like he's We're watching him 647 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: spin out of control. He doesn't know how to stop 648 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: the ride and get off, so he just keeps it 649 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: going full speed ahead. 650 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: I just think that I've talked to so many f 651 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: boys in my career and in my life that there's 652 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: this misconception that fuck boys don't have girlfriends. They do, Guys, 653 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: they do. They do get into relationships and then they 654 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: fuck them up. That is part they like human connection 655 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: and they want to like relationships because they think that 656 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: that's what they should be doing. But they have really bad, 657 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: wandering eyes, and that is what gets them into trouble. 658 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: They try to put themselves in boxes that they think 659 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be in, whether that's from family pressure, 660 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: societal pressure. And then once they put themselves in the box, 661 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 3: all they want to do is get out of the box. 662 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: So then they self sabotage. So we are seeing David 663 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: forcing himself into a box that he doesn't want to 664 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: be in, and then we're going to watch himself sabotage 665 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: five seconds later. 666 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm here for every bit of it. I don't know 667 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: if you noticed this, and I'm so curious as to 668 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: your just TV background. Our weird Jose Cuervo situation. It 669 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: felt very off for me, like very forced, and maybe 670 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: this was product placement, you tell me. But also we 671 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: did it with Keith who doesn't drink. 672 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 3: It was weird to have, Yes, Keith who doesn't drink. 673 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 2: He doesn't drink, but he made it for Delaney, right, Yeah. 674 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: But then there's a weird moment at the end where 675 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: they're cheersing, and do you know what I did as 676 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: a viewer, I'm like, oh, I wonder if his is 677 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: a mocktail or, Like, oh, he didn't drink it, like 678 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm just it felt both this and the perfume and 679 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: the previous episode it felt really missed, like Okay, perfect opportunity, 680 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: let's stick in some product placement. It doesn't fit, but 681 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: like we'll wing it. 682 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did a television show that was partnered 683 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: with Jose Quervo, and what they did was every single time, 684 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: every single episode, when they had their happy hour, it 685 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: started at the bar and every one of them had 686 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: Jose Quervo on top of the bar, and then you 687 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: would hear every now and then you'd hear somebody order 688 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: and be like I'll take a silver tequila or I'll 689 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: take a silver margarita. 690 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: That feels better. 691 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: It felt natural. But then they all were walking around 692 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: with cups that said Jose Quervo on them, which was 693 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: like way more obnoxious and in your face, like this 694 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: is like it's in here for two minutes and then 695 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: we don't ever see Jose Qui again. But yes, this 696 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: is another product integration within an episode. And they probably 697 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: were drinking Jose Cuervo probably the entire time they were 698 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: on the boat. 699 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: Jake and Christine finally chat. Andrew is getting frustrated. He's 700 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: freaking out about his hair and not talking to Christine. 701 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: Andrew reminds Christine that they've met in the past. I 702 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: had a little chuckle at this because Christine She's like, cool, cool, cool, bra. 703 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: This is so Andrew. This is so Andrew to have 704 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: had a moment and then followed somebody on Instagram and 705 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 3: then they don't have any recollection of meeting him. 706 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: You can see it across her face. Heather, She's like, 707 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: oh wow. 708 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: I bet you Christine gets millions of guys in her DMS. 709 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: I bet she meets a ton of guys at the 710 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: club on a nightly basis, and nothing happen, happens. And 711 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 3: Andrew is just Andrew. You're so funny. You're like you're 712 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: funny without trying, which is what also is so funny 713 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: about it, is like, you're just so awkward, and of 714 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: course you would have met a hot girl, followed her 715 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: on Instagram, reminded her that you met, and then her 716 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: be like, uh. 717 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: Huh cool cool, buruh. All right, this is one of 718 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 2: the biggest moments that I have been waiting for. We 719 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: get Bella and she you know, we get the moments. 720 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Everybody's like, where's Bella. Where's Bella? And then we get 721 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: her downstairs in her little room and she's getting all 722 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: dolled up and she's in this beautiful dress, this like 723 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: see through, like Jim Ryanstone dress. I would have loved 724 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: to have seen her chosen a different bra with this dress. 725 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: And I know you're laughing at me, Heather, but from 726 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: the perspective, we saw so much of her back. I 727 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 2: was like, what's with this her back sports bra and 728 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: this gorgeous dress, Like she's so beautiful. I would have 729 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: loved to have seen her chosen a different bra, are 730 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: none at all? Because she paid all that money for 731 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: those beautiful breasts, Like just the cover the nips, girl, 732 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: and like wing it, be your best self. But I 733 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: will give it to her because she looks gorgeous and 734 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: she owns this moment. And she goes up to our 735 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: friends and she gives her little speech and then Bella 736 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: announces that she's leaving the yacht, and I was so 737 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: so sad, Heather. I'm like, I'm like devastated. This these 738 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: two episodes truly rocked me to my core and this 739 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: makes me so sad. I'm also like, you go, girl, 740 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: like go out on a high note. But then I'm 741 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: also like, but how will I sleep at night? 742 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: I genuinely didn't see this coming. I thought, if I'm 743 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: a producer on this show, I'm begging Belle to stay, 744 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to be like, there's more men coming, Bella, stay, stay, 745 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: stay safe, stay, and you know. But the fact that 746 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 3: they just let her go, oh my god, I just 747 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: did not see it coming. I really thought she was 748 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 3: my next Amaya, Papaya. You are Bella. I think that 749 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: you are going to find love. I tell this to 750 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 3: a lot of people that do dating shows. It's very 751 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 3: unlikely for people to find love, long lasting love on 752 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 3: a dating show. But what I do tell people is 753 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 3: if you get the opportunity, it is quiet time to 754 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: focus on love that you're never going to get again 755 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 3: in your life. It's going to be without work, without bills, 756 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: without your phone. You're just focusing on finding a connection. 757 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: And you should take that opportunity not only to see 758 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 3: if you do find a connection, but use it to 759 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 3: put yourself out there to the world and what you're 760 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 3: looking for in terms of a partner and what you 761 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: bring to the table. Because I truly believe and I 762 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: know this because I've seen it happen so many times 763 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: that if you put out the universe and use this 764 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 3: platform about the kind of love you want when you 765 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 3: get off the show, you will receive it. You don't 766 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: know who's watching, you don't know who knows who, who's 767 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: going to walk into your life from opportunities that you 768 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 3: get now from being on the show. And I have 769 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 3: no doubt, no doubt that Bella is going to find 770 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: somebody who loves and appreciates her. It might not be 771 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: right away, but it's going to happen now that she 772 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: has shown what a pure, genuine, sweet person she is 773 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: through this experience. 774 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one thousand percent agree. And being someone who 775 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: was on reality TV for a couple of seasons, I 776 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: did some of my biggest growth and learning during those situations, 777 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: the stuff that you are are dealt and the scenarios 778 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 2: while the world watches. You know, I just grew so 779 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: much as a woman and in my emotional state the 780 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: things that I would tolerate. And I hope that for her, 781 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: because listen, I would love it if she went from 782 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 2: this to another dating show. I haven't had enough of 783 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: her and I need more of Bella. 784 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 3: So if I'm a producer, and I get a season 785 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 3: two on this Bella is the kind of person you 786 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 3: bring back for assess the second you make her the 787 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: first one to like hopefully find a match, and you 788 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 3: if you know that you're bringing her back, then you 789 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: actually purposely cast some people specifically for her in the 790 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: attempt to connect. So I think if we had a 791 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 3: season two of this show, I think we see Bella 792 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: back on if she's not in a relationship when they're filming. 793 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: You just made my day, Heather. You just let's call 794 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: our people. Let's call all our people. Bella's got to 795 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, she has to. All right, we're moving on. 796 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: The next day, we see that Gabby rewards Val to 797 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: have a date with the top side man of her choice. 798 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm living for this. Val goes up. She asks David 799 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: to join her on a date to clear things up 800 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: a little bit, and shocker, Heather, David agrees to go. 801 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 3: And guess what David doesn't do. He doesn't turn to 802 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 3: his girlfriend, yeah because low's his girlfriend as of last night, 803 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: doesn't turn to his girlfriend and say, hey, girlfriend, do 804 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 3: you mind if I go on a date with this woman? 805 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: Or he doesn't say you know what, Val really nice 806 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 3: to have met you. Actually, last night I coupled up 807 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 3: with her, So I'm going to respectfully have to decline. 808 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: The dude says yes in five seconds, Low, if you 809 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: I would be I would be saying to him, excuse me, sir. 810 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: We're in a couple now. So that means you actually 811 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 3: don't go leave the boat and go on a date 812 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 3: with this girl. You can get to know her here 813 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 3: on the boat when we're hanging out, when we're having breakfast. 814 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 3: I mean the fact that Low just sits back and 815 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 3: is like, yeah. 816 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a nap. 817 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 3: I'm rolling my eyes. Guys, you can't see it, but 818 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm rolling my eyes because actually got the writing is 819 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: literally on the wall. 820 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 2: Well we know from this moment like things have gone awry, 821 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm with you that, Like he could 822 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: have said no, but let's be honest, our boy, David, 823 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 2: he wanted to go. He wanted to fuck around and 824 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: find out, and that's exactly what goes down. 825 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 3: Of course, But as anybody who watches Love Island knows, 826 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 3: because this is a straight ripoff of Love Island. Right 827 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 3: on Love Island, they're called bombshells on this show. They're 828 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 3: called shipwreckers. This happens as the show goes on. These 829 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 3: people come in late in the season. People are semi 830 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 3: coupled up on Love Island. We see them go and go. 831 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 3: You know what, let me go ask my person first, 832 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 3: or tell my person, Hey, I'm going to go on 833 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 3: a date with so and so. The fact that David 834 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 3: is one of the older men on this ship, guys, 835 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: just please, this is a lesson in fuck boy behavior. 836 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: This is just everybody who's watching, please, ladies take note. 837 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: It all is about to go down, Heather. They go 838 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: for a spa treatment to increase blood circulation. So here 839 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 2: we are David and our girl val Have. 840 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: You ever been slapped with a cactus before? 841 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: No? No, I was like dying. But it's not just that. 842 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: The way he starts like he's slapping her on the back, 843 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: and he works his way down and he is slapping 844 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: her gigantic booty and you can see the ripple on 845 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 2: that nice ass of hers. And you know he's watching too, Heather. 846 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 3: You see what I wrote, I wrote, slaps her butt? 847 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 3: Nice boyfriend? Like what? 848 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: There are so many things about this date and the 849 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: way he is like drizzling honey, all over her back. 850 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: I am just listen as a viewer, and I'm watching this. 851 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: I am disgusted that he is someone's boyfriend, right you okay, 852 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: if we give him, you know, all shits aside. He 853 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: goes on this date, he's going to get to know her, 854 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 2: but he still can play it respectfully. We have seen 855 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: it in the show. Gia did it. Gia did it. 856 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: She didn't make out with Tim because she's worried about Bo. 857 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: We've seen multiple people say I'm not going to kiss 858 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: you right now, Oh it's too soon, People backing people's 859 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: faces away. 860 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: David goes in head first. He had no issues with 861 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: any of this. Nothing is holding him back at this point. 862 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 2: After the cactus and the honey, we don't stop there, Heather, 863 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 2: they take a shower together. I had to sit up 864 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 2: in My mouth was gaping open. I did not need 865 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: the instructural, you know, wording at the bottom. I knew 866 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 2: what was going on. I literally was like, holy smokes, 867 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: she's giving him a bee j in the shower. Right now. 868 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 2: They've known each other for four seconds and they are 869 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 2: already getting down that. 870 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: To me, I'm very cognizant. I am in what I'm 871 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: about to say, I am not slut shaming val in 872 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: any way. I think that being sexually free and open 873 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 3: is to each their own and everybody's own prerogative. So 874 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 3: sometimes I understand that people feel the chemistry super soon 875 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 3: and they want to, you know, test drive the car 876 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 3: as soon as they pull up to the lot, and 877 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: that's to each their own. But we all have to 878 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: remember too that she is there because she knows there's 879 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: a plank ceremony as soon as she gets back there. 880 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: So is she doing this because she's really feeling it 881 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 3: with this guy, or is she like, I know, this 882 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: is how I close the deal, and this is how 883 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 3: I stay on. I just got on this boat. I'm 884 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 3: not ready to leave. Or is she just super open 885 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 3: sexually and this is kind of like not a big 886 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 3: deal to her and she just would rather see Now, 887 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 3: David is the one who sets the tone in this scenario, 888 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 3: and he had nine million ways to make this be 889 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: a different scenario, and this is what he chose to 890 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 3: participate in. As far as I'm aware, they're not drunk 891 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 3: while they're doing this. As far as I'm aware, it's 892 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 3: happening like in the early morning afternoon, so there's not 893 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 3: like inhibitions or anything blocking his judgment. David is freaky, 894 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 3: and that's totally fine, But you just committed yourself to 895 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 3: being somebody's boyfriend less than twenty four hours ago. So 896 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: you are the ultimate fuck boy. You're the king of 897 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 3: the fuck boys on this ship. And what I don't 898 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 3: like is the immediate like remorse, sadness. I'm awful like 899 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 3: all of that. 900 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: I had multiple opportunities to stop. 901 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 3: It's crocodile tears to me. It's manipulative, and what it 902 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 3: then does is it puts blame in shame on the 903 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 3: woman in this situation who was engaging in this act 904 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 3: with him and David. That's wrong, that's wrong. You need 905 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 3: to be saying to her. That was so much fun. 906 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that. Wow, you made this so much 907 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: harder for me. Now I have to go make a 908 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 3: hard decision, but not this whole like I'm so awful, 909 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 3: I'm off. It's like, yeah, dude, you are, so now 910 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 3: deal with it. Own it. You made this decision. I'm 911 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 3: not going to feel sorry for you because you listen 912 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 3: to that head and not this head. So just be 913 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 3: an adult and like, own it. But I don't like 914 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 3: this pushing the blame and the shame onto the woman, 915 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 3: and then she ends up experiencing some of that like 916 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 3: while she's on board, and I just am not into that. 917 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 3: So I mean, the episode ends with a to be continued, 918 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 3: which obviously we're going to get into right away because 919 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 3: it's not to be continued for us. But the episode 920 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: opens back on this date and they're making out in 921 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 3: the hot tub, and we get more editing gold of 922 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: like we're seeing what's happening with them, and we see 923 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 3: Low back on the boat being like, I'm so confident 924 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,479 Speaker 3: I don't even need to practice anything for my plank 925 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 3: ceremony tonight. It's just like, hey girl, glad you didn't 926 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 3: unpack your bags because you're going home. And they're just 927 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 3: really emphasizing that Low has all this you know, trust 928 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: and everything in this man, which I don't blame her 929 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 3: for being jaded, and like, you know, like if I 930 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 3: were in the situation or you were in this situation, 931 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 3: we would probably have walls up because we're older and 932 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 3: we've experienced more in life, and she is just like 933 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 3: walls down, inhibitions down. I'm all in for this guy, 934 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 3: and that's like a beautiful way to move through life. 935 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 3: But it is going to change now that she's experienced this. 936 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: I think that this situation is going to make Low jaded. 937 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: And that's why I don't like guys like David taking beautiful, 938 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 3: sweet souls who are really really nice and caring and nurturing, 939 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 3: and you're using it against them and it's really mean. 940 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 3: So do you stop doing this? 941 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: And men, if you're watching this show, don't be like David. Yeah, 942 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 2: don't be like this. We can all take a lesson, 943 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: all right. They get back from a date Heather, and 944 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 2: here we go. We jump straight into the plank ceremony, 945 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: and you know, the mood is very, very low, like 946 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 2: everything is shifting. 947 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 3: I feel like it starts though, like everybody's like, oh, 948 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 3: we're going to be out of here in a minute, 949 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 3: Like they all think it's like easy peas well. 950 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 2: It's funny because we don't just see Low being cocky 951 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: about it. We see everybody else being cocky about it. 952 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: They are showing them and clips being like this is 953 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: mom and dad, like their mom and dad of the yacht. 954 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 2: They've been together since day one. No one can rock this. 955 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: No one can rock this, and they are not even 956 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 2: prepared for what is about to happen. 957 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 3: Because David's fooled all of them. He kept this persona 958 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 3: going that he is not a fuck boy. And I 959 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: can't remember what was said what he said exactly, but 960 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 3: where he gave the he told on himself was when 961 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: he was talking to Val and she asked about his 962 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 3: past relationship and he said it ended because it wasn't insecurity. 963 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 3: What did he say, He used it lent itself. What 964 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 3: the words he used lent itself to somebody being unfaithful? 965 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 3: Did you catch that? 966 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: I did not. 967 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 3: It was really quick. It's he didn't use the word 968 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 3: unfaithful and he didn't use the word insecure. Some of 969 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 3: the listeners will have to go back and listen to it. 970 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 3: But it lent itself to some sort of indiscretion happened 971 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 3: in his last relationship, and it was hard for them 972 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 3: to rebound from whatever this situation was. Hello, guys, this 973 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 3: is him telling on him. He has a plum. This 974 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 3: is not a guy that engages in this kind of 975 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 3: activity and a woman who engages in this kind of 976 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 3: activity within meeting very quickly. This is not the first 977 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 3: time that they have ever done this with each other. Yeah, again, 978 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 3: this is Okay, people are adults and have autonomy over 979 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 3: their own bodies. I'm not slutshaming anybody in this situation whatsoever. 980 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 3: But for David to have had this persona of like 981 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,720 Speaker 3: he's mister boyfriend man and all of that. No, David 982 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 3: in the shower, that's David. That's well David, And I 983 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 3: guess that's how David moves through life. When he's meeting 984 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 3: women at the club. He likes to party and he 985 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 3: likes to blow off steam. That is who he is. 986 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, David is a taker. He's a taker. 987 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 3: This guy on the yacht, he said from jump, I'm 988 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 3: trying something different. David came in and was like very 989 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 3: cognizant of how he moves through life in a day 990 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 3: to day basis, and he's you know how he keeps 991 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 3: also bringing up like, oh, her family's going to see 992 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 3: this yep, when he was talking about their sexual incompatibility 993 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 3: and he goes, oh, man, her parents are going to 994 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 3: see this, bro, how about she's going to see this? 995 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 2: Not once? Not once? Does he say that Heather? Not once? 996 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: Is he like wow? When this all plays back and 997 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 2: Low sees the curtain lifted, not once, he is worried 998 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: about how this is going to look for him. That's all. 999 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: He's not worried about Low. He's not worried about what 1000 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 2: her parents think, because he's not going to end up 1001 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 2: with her. He's worried about what his his persona is 1002 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 2: then going to look like. 1003 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 3: And that's the crocodile tears for me. This guy is 1004 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 3: not being authentic. I think he's being super subdued. I 1005 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 3: think that he does feel remorse for how he acts, 1006 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 3: and I don't think that he necessarily wants to be 1007 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: this person that he's being. But I've seen this time 1008 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 3: and time again, and a lot of these guys have 1009 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 3: to learn the hard way in order to make real change. 1010 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 3: Is hard way that he's having to learn. Because guess what, David, Now, 1011 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: after getting off this boat, if you ever try to 1012 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 3: get into another relationship scenario that lives on TV and 1013 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 3: lives on the internet, is going to haunt you forever forever. 1014 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: Any girl that you meet is going to google you, 1015 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 3: is going to look this up and be like, Oh, 1016 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 3: he's a fuck boy, and this is going to follow 1017 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 3: you for a really, really long time. And that's unfortunate 1018 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 3: because it's an indiscretion in your life. But That's partly 1019 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,879 Speaker 3: why people are very careful when they go on TV 1020 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 3: and the decisions that they make. Some people are well, listen, 1021 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't start some people aren't. Some people are, and 1022 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 3: some people are aren't. It doesn't stop there. Heather David's fuckery. 1023 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: We see the plank ceremony, and this is where it 1024 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: just turns into straight chaos. First off, I don't know 1025 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 2: the whole bit where they make Low put on her 1026 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 2: life jacket. I was like, this girl, I'm already mortified 1027 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: for this girl and what is about to happen to her? 1028 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 2: And I'm like, do we really need to poke fun 1029 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: at her a little bit more? We see Low, we 1030 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 2: see Val take the plank, we see both of them 1031 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 2: twisted up, and we see David twisted up. I mean, 1032 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 2: he's very very stressed about the decision that he's about 1033 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: to make. Right. Val says she feels something special with him, 1034 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 2: that they had some memorable moments on their date. Low 1035 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 2: says that they've been on top the whole time, and 1036 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 2: David knows how she feels about him. I mean they 1037 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 2: are girlfriend and boyfriend. She said the L word. David 1038 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 2: says his date with Val made the decision much harder 1039 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: for him. I can't even This is when we see David. 1040 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't fully come clean, but he is trying to 1041 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 2: and I don't know. Maybe I can just hope that 1042 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 2: he is trying not to embarrass Low in this moment. 1043 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 2: But he looks at her and he says he doesn't 1044 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 2: think that she's going to be okay with what happened 1045 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: on their date. So he doesn't throw Val under the 1046 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 2: bus and outright say she gave him a bj in 1047 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: the shower, but he also doesn't say it to Low either. 1048 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 2: Hopefully it's in a sense to respect all parties. I 1049 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: want to give the benefit of the doubt here. I 1050 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: know I can see you struggling, Heather, I can see 1051 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: you struggling with me. I am trying to find. 1052 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 3: Because of everybody to understand that being evasive about the 1053 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: truth doesn't mean you're being truthful. That is still lying 1054 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: in a sense. So he is avoiding telling her the 1055 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 3: entire truth because he knows that he is going to 1056 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 3: get a negative reaction from her and from the group 1057 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 3: that's watching this all go down. This playing ceremony is 1058 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 3: so dramatic. It elapses more than forty five minutes and 1059 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 3: Gabby just continuing to be like, Daved, we need a name, babe, 1060 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: we need a name. I was about to be like, 1061 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 3: if Gabby gets up there, she should just push David off, 1062 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, and we just keep both the girls. But 1063 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 3: if I'm low in this. 1064 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 2: Situation, Heather, I'm jumping overboard. 1065 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 3: Same because low, babe, you do not need a man 1066 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 3: that steps away from you for thirty minutes. And this 1067 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 3: is how difficult it is to choose you. Uh huh, 1068 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 3: that's right there. You know in your heart that what 1069 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 3: you had was not real. So that's when I go 1070 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 3: peace and I jump overboard myself because I'm not going 1071 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 3: to stand he humiliated you. 1072 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: I have too much pride, Heather. I don't know if 1073 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: I am too egotistical. I have too much pride, whatever 1074 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 2: it may be, to stand there and a lie. Wow, 1075 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: a man to do this, to drag on this decision 1076 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 2: as long as he did, with both women standing there 1077 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: at the end, both of them should have jumped overboard. 1078 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 2: I would have never stood there that long cast crew ship. 1079 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 2: We'll see a piece. I'm out. You will not stand 1080 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 2: here and make me look this stupid. 1081 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 3: And that's what he's doing. Like if he was also 1082 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 3: like respectable. He would have just said, you know what, guys, 1083 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if I deserve to be here, I'm 1084 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 3: going to jump overboard and just like through himself. You 1085 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But the fact that your foundation 1086 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 3: of your relationship was rocked by one girl coming in 1087 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 3: that quick, that just goes to show he was lying 1088 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 3: to you, He was lying to everybody. And the one 1089 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 3: who reacts the hardest out of this whole situation, because 1090 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 3: obviously he sends low overboard is Leela. She is just screaming. 1091 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 3: She is calling him a dickhead. The entire yacht is rocked. 1092 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 3: They're all screaming. They have no idea how this could happen, 1093 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 3: and the men are equally disappointed. I was expecting there 1094 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 3: should be some weird like Broie moments of like for you, 1095 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm here for you. The only one we really see 1096 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 3: it from is James, who James is like, hey, man, like, 1097 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 3: I respect you, know you're following your heart whatever. But 1098 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 3: I will say that at this point, nobody really knows 1099 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 3: what happened on the date. It's not until like David 1100 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 3: starts to like cry and Kori is like. 1101 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 2: Whoa, did you see how quickly he got out of 1102 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 2: that conversation because it was not having any part of that. 1103 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 3: No, because Curi clearly is very cognizant, right if he's 1104 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 3: waiting five episodes to have a kiss with a girl, 1105 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 3: he's not the kind of guy that has a shower 1106 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 3: action with somebody he's met five minutes ago. Again, not shaming, 1107 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 3: it's just not who he is. So I think he 1108 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 3: just doesn't really like align with that kind of behavior. 1109 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 2: He's not jumping on board, No. 1110 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 3: He literally backs away really quick. And it's Tim who's 1111 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 3: also really aggressive and upset with David. And this is 1112 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 3: where I'm like, Okay, Tim, you came in saying you 1113 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 3: didn't want to be a fuck boy anymore, and you 1114 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 3: are showing that you do not want to be a 1115 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 3: fuck boy. Because usually fuck boys they would align together 1116 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 3: and they would be like, yeah, man, I get it, 1117 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, she's hot whatever. But no, Tim is like 1118 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 3: upset and he like thought better of David. And I 1119 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 3: kind of really like that that moment from Tim. 1120 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I did too, because the same thing. It's 1121 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 2: not you know, we expected the women to have a reaction, 1122 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: obviously they love Low, but I was really really happy 1123 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 2: in a situation like that, where the other men stood 1124 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 2: up too, and we're just like, hey, dude, this is 1125 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 2: not right. You know, I have nothing but respect for 1126 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 2: something like that. I would have been it would have 1127 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 2: been a very different scenario had they all been like, 1128 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 2: it's okay, get yours get But that wasn't the case, 1129 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: and that made me really happy, especially in a you know, 1130 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 2: humor filled reality show like this. I was really happy 1131 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 2: to see them stand up and be like, yo, bro, 1132 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: this just wasn't okay. This is not okay. You do 1133 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 2: you but like, this is not okay. 1134 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 3: All right. 1135 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 2: So we we're on the next day over here and 1136 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 2: the downsiders are folding laundry. Lexi and James are ready 1137 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 2: to get back to the top side. The top siders 1138 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 2: have an awkward breakfast. They're all still annoyed with David. 1139 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 2: David has some alone time and gets emotional talking to 1140 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: a producer. I thought this was a very interesting situation 1141 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 2: because we are seeing him start to unravel and really, 1142 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't know reap the benefits the repercussions of his 1143 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 2: choices here, but I found it very interesting. The producer 1144 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 2: who comes in just holds him and caddles him like 1145 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 2: a baby, And so this is okay, get yourself a 1146 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 2: good cry, and then you're going to go back in 1147 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 2: there and you're gonna knock him dead killer. You know, 1148 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: like I, I'm getting too much time with David. I'm 1149 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 2: getting too much time for him to lick his wounds 1150 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 2: and to feel sorry for him. 1151 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 3: If I'm a producer in this situation, I see why 1152 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 3: it's being done right, we do. You know he's expressing remorse. 1153 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 3: You know, we also are putting people in a pressure 1154 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 3: cooker environment where emotions are really high and mental health 1155 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 3: of people is the most important. So I like that 1156 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 3: he's not being pressured to stay, but clearly we can 1157 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 3: see he is public enemy number one on this yacht 1158 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 3: right now. I have been in these kinds of situations 1159 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 3: where somebody's crying and you got to step in, and 1160 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 3: you got to let them lean on your shoulder and 1161 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. I've had conversations with Talent 1162 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 3: that probably other producers wouldn't like to hear, where I've said, 1163 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm not going to force you to stay here, and 1164 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 3: what you want to do is up to you, and 1165 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 3: I want you empower you to make those decisions. I 1166 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 3: don't think a lot of producers will say that because 1167 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 3: they want to keep and see things unfolding. But I 1168 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 3: think that right now we're seeing the wheels come off 1169 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: of David. He's trying to take responsibility. But I, as 1170 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 3: a viewer watching this, would not be super surprised if 1171 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: we see David make an exit before the end of 1172 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:22,959 Speaker 3: this show. 1173 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even consider that. That was 1174 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 2: not in all of my and all of my devastation 1175 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: in the last two episodes. That hasn't crossed my mind yet. 1176 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 3: I think that that could be the next thing, because 1177 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to bounce back with the boat, 1178 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 3: and I think that his guilt. I don't also think 1179 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 3: that he really likes Valve. 1180 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 2: So this is you don't think he does, or you 1181 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 2: do think he does. 1182 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 3: I don't because when him and Tim have that conversation 1183 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 3: and then Tim comes back and tells the group and 1184 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 3: is like, yeah, he's made his bed, he's gonna have 1185 01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 3: to lie in it, that to me says it all. 1186 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 3: Like I think he engaged in act that he enjoyed, 1187 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 3: and I think that he's like physically attracted to her, 1188 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 3: but I don't think he likes her, and I think 1189 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 3: that he's going to leave and then we might see 1190 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 3: Val get with somebody else, or she gets sent over whatever. 1191 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 3: But I have a feeling David's not going to stay. 1192 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 2: Interesting. You know, he's the one who's been pretty mum 1193 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 2: on social media. He posts because you know, I'm full 1194 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 2: on obsessed now and I'm following them all. They're my friends. 1195 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 2: I see them watching my stories. I'm watching everything that 1196 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 2: they post. I am in my full on obsession mode. 1197 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 2: David is posting, but his stuff is very muted in 1198 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 2: a sense. 1199 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine he is getting quite a bit 1200 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 3: of hate online. So again, David, protect your mental health, 1201 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 3: step away from your cell phone. People, remember to be 1202 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,439 Speaker 3: kind on the internet and know these people. I think 1203 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 3: that he has made a decision, like I said, that 1204 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 3: is going to now unfortunately haunt him for a long 1205 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 3: time to come. We see Enna and Andrew make basically 1206 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 3: a friendship packed through this situation. They've decided. You know, 1207 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 3: nobody on this ship is into either of them, which 1208 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 3: is hilarious because Andrew's like, I've never had like a 1209 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 3: girl friend before, and it's like I don't think Enna's 1210 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 3: ever been friend zoned before. 1211 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is new for both of them. This is new, 1212 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 2: like unchartered territory for the both of them. We see 1213 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 2: it right here, and what I need my girl Enna 1214 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 2: to step it up now that my other girl Bella 1215 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 2: is gone. I'm like ready for Anna to really come 1216 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 2: through with a with a swing here and just carry 1217 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 2: the entire show. 1218 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 3: I just literally Enna being a friend zone would have 1219 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 3: never been on my bingo card. This is like the 1220 01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:00,439 Speaker 3: most hilarious thing. But Gabby interrupts and tells them that 1221 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 3: they are all going to get to go off to 1222 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 3: the beach for a beach party that she has organized. 1223 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 3: And this is when we get the teas for the 1224 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 3: next episode, which is another great twist because what they 1225 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 3: don't know is that all the people that have been 1226 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 3: kicked off the yacht thus far, their exes are waiting 1227 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 3: for them at the beach party to confront them. 1228 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 2: I am doing my very best, Heather, to not jump 1229 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 2: ahead here because I am dying inside. I have to 1230 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: know what happens. I have to know how this ends. 1231 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 2: And I had to everything in me to shut it 1232 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 2: off yesterday. I had to stop myself from not jumping 1233 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 2: forward because I need the instant gratification. 1234 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 3: It's all the best elements of all different dating shows. 1235 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, so now we've covered Love Island, We've covered 1236 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 3: bombshells with ship Wreckers and all these things, and now 1237 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 3: we're heading to X on the Beach, which is another 1238 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 3: great dating show. So I'm here for it. I love 1239 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 3: where this show is going. At the end of this episode, 1240 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: episode six, are you still rooting the most for Tim 1241 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 3: and Gia or are you rooting more for Lexi and James. 1242 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 2: This is a this is a toss up for me. Okay, 1243 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 2: I still stand by I believe Tim and Gia could 1244 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 2: be the real deal, but I believe Lexi and James 1245 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 2: go go the rest of the way. I like, in 1246 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 2: my heart, I think that Lexi and James win, and 1247 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 2: I am not I stop myself. I have not seen 1248 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 2: how the show ends. I've not watched any further episodes, 1249 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 2: but I believe that Lexi and James win. 1250 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 3: All Right, Well, we'll have to see how this plays out. 1251 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 3: We've got only three more episodes, which is crazy. 1252 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: I like, please don't give me an ending. What am 1253 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 2: I going to do with all my free time after this? 1254 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 3: Well? I wonder if we're going to get some sort 1255 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 3: of reunion. We'll have to wait and see. 1256 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 2: We have to go. We have to go. We have 1257 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: to find a way to get there and Per and 1258 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 2: Heather and sit in the audience, and I have to 1259 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 2: be able to attend this. 1260 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 3: This is my new obsession. If you guys haven't been watching, 1261 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,679 Speaker 3: please catch up. Please watch this show. It is so funny. 1262 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 3: We're having the best time ever. But I can't wait. 1263 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 3: We'll be back with more episodes seven and eight, and 1264 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 3: then nine is the finale. Thanks Deanna, this has been fun. 1265 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Heather. 1266 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 3: Bye. 1267 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 1268 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.