WEBVTT - 12/16/25: Fox War On Christmas For Data Centers, Trump Aide Unleashes On Admin, Pinochet Defender Wins In Chile

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Fox News and this war on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a fascinating one. You've got a Fox

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<v Speaker 2>News anchor who is saying we all need to buy

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<v Speaker 2>artificial Christmas trees to make room for the AI data

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<v Speaker 2>centers because they're going to take over the real Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>tree farms. Let's gohead and take a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 3>This farm is one hundred and fifty acres. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be farms, be transmission lines that have to

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<v Speaker 3>go through developments and farms. That's the very nature of

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<v Speaker 3>a growing economy like that, everybody needs to get on board.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a you know what, buy a fake tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, digger right in my heart? What I have

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<v Speaker 1>a fake tree coming time for this? I know I

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>One can only imagine the executive orders and state mandated

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<v Speaker 2>real Christmas trees that would arrive. If a lib said

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<v Speaker 2>something equivalent O run MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'll defend them. That would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good executive order. It's a good thing. In fact. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm from Texas. I'm from Texas. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>do real trees. Okay, right, it's not really a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much everybody has an artificier. Some people pay the extra.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife feels very passionately about real Christmas trees, which

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<v Speaker 1>were some original fights in our marriage. I have come

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<v Speaker 1>to become a real tree guy. Real trees are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it does get you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more in the Christmas spirit. But more importantly about this

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<v Speaker 1>whole data center buying artificial trees. This is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>example of what we've talked about with the mindset around AI,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you need to personally sacrifice so that the

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<v Speaker 1>slop can continue so that you need to personally sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 1>not just monetarily, but let's say the human experience putting

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<v Speaker 1>up a tree in your house, you know, having fun

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<v Speaker 1>with your children, decorating that, so that we can have

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<v Speaker 1>this impersonal technology which the CEOs say is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take their job and to rip even more of that

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<v Speaker 1>away from us. I actually can't think of a better

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<v Speaker 1>kind of clip to that encapsulates that and what worshiping

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<v Speaker 1>GDP really looks like, because that's what it is. That

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<v Speaker 1>that is the explicit kind of view of what that

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<v Speaker 1>means and of what people hold dear and why being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an anti AI disposition is so increasingly popular

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<v Speaker 1>in American politics today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean that's what they're saying, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to change our lives and our traditions to

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<v Speaker 2>make way we need to adjust for the AI revolution

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<v Speaker 2>that is here that is not really meant to benefit

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<v Speaker 2>us at all. It's all to enrich and consolidate power

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<v Speaker 2>in the hands of a very few number of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have some good news on the AI front, however,

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<v Speaker 2>Kirson Cinema, who is a former senator and cartoon villain.

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<v Speaker 2>She has gone from being in the Senate to now

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<v Speaker 2>being a lobbyist for AI data centers. She was pushing

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<v Speaker 2>one in this one particular Arizona town and they overwhelmingly,

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<v Speaker 2>i think unanimously the city council voted it down. But

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<v Speaker 2>in any case, she was also welcomed onto Fox and

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<v Speaker 2>Friends to make the case for AI data centers and

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<v Speaker 2>how they are actually more eco friendly than they were

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<v Speaker 2>in the past.

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<v Speaker 5>SoC let's take a listen to that.

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<v Speaker 6>As you know, there's this massive effort kind of on

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<v Speaker 6>the left to kind of come into communities and give

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<v Speaker 6>misinformation around water and energy and AI data centers, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's a lot of misinformation. This administration is doing a

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<v Speaker 6>good job of telling the truth, creating more energy domestically,

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<v Speaker 6>the National Energy Dominance Council doing a whole of government

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<v Speaker 6>approach to ensure that we're creating our own natural gas,

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<v Speaker 6>our own nuclear to power the future. We're actually using

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<v Speaker 6>less water with AI Data centers and in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>So that communication is bringing people together who just want efficient, proactive,

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<v Speaker 6>good lives where their kids have a better life than

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<v Speaker 6>they had. So this is I think a really important

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<v Speaker 6>issue that has nothing to do with partisanship.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep in mind again this lady is paid to

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<v Speaker 2>utter this absolute garbled nonsense. The fact that she can

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<v Speaker 2>go up there with a straight face and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is all good for American energy production, Like we

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<v Speaker 2>have looked the way the grid is already being strained

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<v Speaker 2>by the power usage of these AI data centers. And

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<v Speaker 2>I also find it very interesting saga that she is

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<v Speaker 2>framing this as a partisan issue, that oh, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>these left wing people who are coming in and telling

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<v Speaker 2>you bad things about the AI data centers, while the

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<v Speaker 2>President is telling you the truth that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing for the American economy, etc. Because the reality is,

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<v Speaker 2>as we've covered here extensively, you know, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Georgia elections, if you look at the Virginia elections,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at local opposition to AI data centers

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<v Speaker 2>being located here, it is very cross ideological and there

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<v Speaker 2>is not a clear left right divide here. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that clearly she and whoever's paying her are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to push.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's the Christen Cinema thing. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>too much. And I think what everybody can appreciate now

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<v Speaker 1>is how overtly corrupt so much of this is you

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<v Speaker 1>have not only the I mean, this is an X

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<v Speaker 1>senator who took multiple votes on behalf of big industry,

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<v Speaker 1>which we covered here at the time, left in order

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<v Speaker 1>to personally enrich herself. I mean, and you know, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there was all this debate they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>does she really believe this a shimatt. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she just wanted to get I mean, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>she just wanted to get paid right in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>her advocacy, and now she's like pro Trump now hilariously

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<v Speaker 1>for big business reasons. I just want to put it

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<v Speaker 1>all together just to show how corrupt so much of

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<v Speaker 1>this is. I recently flagged this. I was reading through

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I took interest in this de banking conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the conversation at in d banking is important.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about Lefang with this before. There were legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>instances of political deep banking that happened, which are really

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<v Speaker 1>concerning at a free speech level. These were weaponized by

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<v Speaker 1>the tech guys who started saying that depbanking happened in

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<v Speaker 1>order to loosen restrictions around their industry. Famously, we had

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Andresen moment on Joe Rogan, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>many others. We had Mark Zuckerberg and others for pro

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<v Speaker 1>crypto interests. And again I think there are real concerns

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<v Speaker 1>around industry specific for politics. But I could not get

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<v Speaker 1>over as I was reading this new D Banking report

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<v Speaker 1>only weirdos like me. This is the Office of the

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<v Speaker 1>Comptroller from the Treasury, so they did a nine month investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to look into who's getting D banked and

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<v Speaker 1>you would be amazed to find that this new D

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<v Speaker 1>Banking report signals out not just crypto and other industries,

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<v Speaker 1>but pornography. Let's go ahead and put this up here

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. The OCC's preliminary finding show that between

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and twenty twenty three, nine banks made inappropriate distinctions

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<v Speaker 1>among customers in the division of financial services on the

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<v Speaker 1>basis of lawful business activities by maintaining policies restricting access

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<v Speaker 1>to banking services or requiring escalating reviews and approvals. Sectors

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<v Speaker 1>subjected to restricted access included oil and gas, coal mining, firearms,

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<v Speaker 1>private prisons, tobacco, eas cigarets, manufacturers, adult entertainment, and digital assets.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's stick with porn and with crypto. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this idea that these banks are ideologically opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>porn and to crypto. These are some of the greediest

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world. You think they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>take their money. Do you know why they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take their money with crypto? They're worried about KYC

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<v Speaker 1>Know your Customer laws and specifically money laundering, which they

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<v Speaker 1>have a legal mandate not to to help prevent and

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<v Speaker 1>to help report to the FBI or to the US

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<v Speaker 1>authorities on porn. It's the same thing what the banks

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly grew a conscience. Do you think that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>banks are like, oh, my only fans, we can't be

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<v Speaker 1>taking their money, or the banks are looking at human

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking laws and at revenge porn laws, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>internal enforcement of these gigantic conglomerates which are addicting all

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<v Speaker 1>of these American men and which are flagrantly in violation

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<v Speaker 1>of multiple trafficking laws on the books right now to

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<v Speaker 1>help prevent women who are being exploited posted online international

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<v Speaker 1>rings which are profiting to the tune of billions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and are like, yeah, we can't take their money because

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<v Speaker 1>to do so would actually be a violation, specifically of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to protect all of these girls, of which these

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<v Speaker 1>laws were passed on their behalf. Maybe it's the latter.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Trump administration here taking significant pressure from

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<v Speaker 1>the porn industry and others, which again are salivating at

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of access to the legitimate banking system, and

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<v Speaker 1>now effectively pressuring our largest financial institutions to basically take

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<v Speaker 1>their money and look the other way. I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything worse. You know. Look, you know, tobacco, fine, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. You know, that's one of those where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think tobacco is horrible smoking. Obviously, it

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<v Speaker 1>kills a lot of people, the industry, et cetera. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one which again I get not wanting, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with lawsuits and everything, you don't necessarily want to be

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<v Speaker 1>connected to that. But with pornography and with crypto, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, the banks don't care about conscience. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for a reason. It's not ideological, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even I mean, these banks were happy to do

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<v Speaker 2>business with like after de commission because the money was green.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, yes, let's do the deals. It's fine. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't care like we're going to continue to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with him. We've had more and more reporting about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's not like they're out here being some

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<v Speaker 2>like good lefties like we're gonna, you know, not work

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<v Speaker 2>with the And it is interesting to me, uh, going

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Mark Andresen Rogan appearance, and just to

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<v Speaker 2>remind people, he used the conservative perception and probably a

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<v Speaker 2>time it was like legitimate, legitimate reality that there was

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<v Speaker 2>ideological debanking to then launch a war on the Consumer

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<v Speaker 2>Financial Protection Bureau, which had actually stood up Rogi Chopra,

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<v Speaker 2>who was ahead of that agency, stood up against ideological debanking.

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<v Speaker 2>But they he found it to be a useful construct.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even some of the examples that he offered

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<v Speaker 2>that he was like, oh, this person was de banked

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<v Speaker 2>just because they're like a conservative and they like Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you dig one layer Dee burn and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like or maybe they were committing like scams and fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people need to really remember, especially crypto is

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<v Speaker 2>rife with all kinds of scams and rug poles and

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<v Speaker 2>fraud and money laundering, Like none of it's being prosecuted

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<v Speaker 2>anymore under the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 5>But that has been the reality of crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>So there have been very good reasons why banks would

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<v Speaker 2>look a scance and not want to get involved with

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<v Speaker 2>some of these sorts of things. So it's a classic

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<v Speaker 2>playbook that they have used. David Sachs did this too

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<v Speaker 2>in his defenseive AI of them like completely deregulating AI.

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<v Speaker 2>They take a culture war issue and they frame it

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<v Speaker 2>in a way to protect like a pro oligarch agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's a lot of what's going on here

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<v Speaker 2>as well. You remember David Sachs and his tweet he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about like, oh, if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>black George Washington, then we've got to make sure States

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<v Speaker 2>can never regulate AI and we could just do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do. So you know, similar kind of

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<v Speaker 2>bait and switch going on here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these culture war stuff, you know, in absence of

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<v Speaker 1>big arguments around here. By the way, again, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said on AI, I've never had more pushback from the

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<v Speaker 1>White House. It's kind of fascinating. I enjoy arguing with

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<v Speaker 1>them about it. There is a legitimate view about the

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<v Speaker 1>AI States thing. I don't agree with it necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now, this porn thing, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>defense one hundred percent. It's being pushed by the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like weed I talked about yesterday. You can

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<v Speaker 1>defend weed rescheduling all you want, and if it was

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<v Speaker 1>done through a real process, I would look, I would

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<v Speaker 1>fight it, but I would I'd be like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>be it. But this is literally because the White House

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<v Speaker 1>tea the staff were about to talk about was hired

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<v Speaker 1>by a weed company whenever she was outside of office

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<v Speaker 1>and then brought that former client to the Oval office

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<v Speaker 1>who has billions of dollars at stake and whose stock

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<v Speaker 1>massively profited. That's it. That's the only reason that this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a bunch of multimillionaires hired pro Trump X campaign officials,

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<v Speaker 1>donated or and or hired to the Trump campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>then got their way to the Oval and then did

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<v Speaker 1>a corrupt deal in order to get it done. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. It's the same thing here with porn. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, also, you know, you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand if you're saying banks should disregard KYC regulations

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it comes to you know, like crypto and others,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, oh, okay, well it is kind of difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say, to apply it to the pornography industry for

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<v Speaker 1>them in general. They want to make it as easy

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<v Speaker 1>as possible for all of these vice industries to do business.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's disgusting in an era where the very

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<v Speaker 1>basics of life have never been more on affordable or

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<v Speaker 1>unattainable for a lot of younger people, and that these

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<v Speaker 1>are the very things which are destroying them from the

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<v Speaker 1>inside out. And you know, this is a big talk

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<v Speaker 1>from the administration which cares about Christianity or moral purpose

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<v Speaker 1>or any of that. I have never seen a more

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<v Speaker 1>socially libertarian administry, Not even the Biden administration did shit

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Let's go to C four, you know, just again,

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<v Speaker 1>just to give you an example, Trump is now considering

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<v Speaker 1>wiping federal gambling winnings taxes. Let me explain something again.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as gambling winnings. Only four per

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<v Speaker 1>They did a study one hundred of thousands people who

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<v Speaker 1>did sports betting. Four percent of people had a profit

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<v Speaker 1>after five years four percent, ninety six percent. You're gonna lose,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a loser, one hundred percent. Now, all this will

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<v Speaker 1>do is give casinos and sports betting companies free advertising. Saying,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, when you have this parlay which you're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely going to hit. It will also be tax free.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a gig gigantic giveaway and brand you know

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<v Speaker 1>benefit to these gambling it's so repulsive, like loosening restrictions

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<v Speaker 1>on weed, porn, gamble. It's literally like they're personally attacking me.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, this is not this isn't about me, Okay

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, like you can live

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<v Speaker 1>your life the way that you want. But but and

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<v Speaker 1>this is just my opinion. I think that the government

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<v Speaker 1>should not make it easier easier for multi billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>industries to corrupt you, to corrupt the people around you,

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<v Speaker 1>to corrupt your community. The point of the government of

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<v Speaker 1>our society is to promote human flourishing. There's nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>this which does any of that. All it does is

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<v Speaker 1>vastly enriched people who wake up every single day thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how to milk you for as much money as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people are my enemies.

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<v Speaker 2>The gambling thing is crazy because it comes to a

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<v Speaker 2>moment too when I think there's increasing recognition of like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this this is a disaster, right, this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. There, we've got a major issue with addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a major issue with people who are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>giving all their life save and betting on whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>boarding events. Now we've got you know, CNN making a

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the betting companies you bet on literally everything.

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<v Speaker 2>All these scandals coming out about insider trading and rigging

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<v Speaker 2>the markets, all that sort of stuff. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, when we've had things that society is

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<v Speaker 2>considered to be like a vice or behavior, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to discourage, but they don't want to outright ban. Oftentimes

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<v Speaker 2>what you do is you actually tax it, you make

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<v Speaker 2>it more expensive, or you make it more difficult. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going in the opposite direction, Like instead of doing

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<v Speaker 2>a vice tax, you're doing like a vice text credit,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing like a vice encouragement, actively trying to funnel

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<v Speaker 2>people into something that we know is fundamentally rigged, exploitative, predatory,

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<v Speaker 2>and damaging. So yeah, I mean, you know, come get

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<v Speaker 2>your Christian nationalists. This is it is really pretty wild

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. But it's the whole administration, the

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<v Speaker 2>core foundation. There are no foundational principles outside of just

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<v Speaker 2>like a money grop, I mean, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like a heist. They are taking everything that's

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<v Speaker 2>not nailed down. Everybody's in it for their own bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, even the foreign policy is run for

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of oligarchs. Bag the domestic policy, the economy

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<v Speaker 2>is run for them. That's the whole thing. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you know the fact that the gambling and the poor

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<v Speaker 2>industry and whatever getting their seats at the table and

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<v Speaker 2>getting their taste no surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, all right, guys, I think we all talked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too much. So we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Susie Wiles before we welcome our friend Juan

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<v Speaker 1>David Rojas. Turning now to Susie Wilds. This just broke

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. We had to add this in. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the craziest interviews by a senior White House

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<v Speaker 1>official I have ever seen in my life, in any

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<v Speaker 1>other White House, any other time, normal time. She's getting

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<v Speaker 1>fired today under this president who knows. Let's put this

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<v Speaker 1>up here on the screen. This is a New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times write up of a multi page interview that Susie

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<v Speaker 1>Wiles has been sitting with Vanity Fair for over the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, in which she gets candid about the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Trump presidency admits that many of the things that the

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<v Speaker 1>White House set are lies, admits that Elon is using ketamine.

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<v Speaker 1>She criticizes the president. She says that the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>is a conspiracy theorist who his conversion to away from

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<v Speaker 1>never trump Ism was political. She says Trump has an

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<v Speaker 1>alcoholic personality. So let me read from the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times write up of this lengthy vanity fair profile. President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's chief of staff said she tried to get him

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<v Speaker 1>to end his score settling against political enemies after ninety

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<v Speaker 1>days in office, but acknowledged the administration still ongoing push

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<v Speaker 1>for prosecutions has been fueled in part by the President's

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<v Speaker 1>desire for retribution. So number one, the mortgage fraud case

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<v Speaker 1>against Letitia James or against James Comy, all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the case, it's political retribution from the president.

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<v Speaker 1>She just tweeted it out. That's an old meme from

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty tens. Is just tweeting out what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as journalists, we've been working on this story, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that this is the true reason why Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, even though yes, it's obvious we need evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we have the White House chief of staff

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh yeah, He's doing it for political retribution purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what these prosecutions are about. Okay, let's sit with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's sit with that as we continue again for over

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<v Speaker 1>eleven interviews that she's given the Vice president, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>quote has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade. His

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<v Speaker 1>conversion from Trump critic to ally was based on, on principle,

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<v Speaker 1>what was sort of political. Elon Musk is an avowed

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<v Speaker 1>ketamine user in odd duck whose actions were not always

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<v Speaker 1>rational and left her quote aghast Russ's vote the budget

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<v Speaker 1>director quote is a right wing absolute zealot, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Pambondi quote completely whiffed in handling of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files. She continued, by the way, to say about Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my personal favorite. She said here about the boats,

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<v Speaker 1>that the policy of the United States is that or

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<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump is to quote blow up as many

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<v Speaker 1>boats as possible until Maduro decides to leave office. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what she said. So admitting none of this is about drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about fentanyl, which is all bullshit and which

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<v Speaker 1>again I knew that I've been saying that here. But

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<v Speaker 1>to have the White House Chief of Staff just come

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<v Speaker 1>out and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's all fake

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about regime change. Ok. Thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Madam Susie Wiles. You know, I mean continuing here. Describing

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<v Speaker 1>Trump as an alcoholic personality with respect to quote operates

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<v Speaker 1>with the view that there's nothing he can't do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not usually something I would describe as an alcoholic. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, so much of her job revolves around the

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<v Speaker 1>president's personality and stream of consciousness public comments. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that during the whole tariffs thing that the Vice President

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<v Speaker 1>jad Vance was sent into convince Trump to pump the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes on tariffs, and she said that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge disagreement that they were deciding. People were predicting disaster

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<v Speaker 1>on usaid. She thinks no rational person could think the

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<v Speaker 1>USAID process was a good one. Nobody. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is crazy and we're just scratching the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even been able to I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to get even all of them just yet, what these

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<v Speaker 1>comments are. But trashing the cabinet admitting the Epstein files

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge problem. Says she can't understand why Gleane

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell was moved to a different prison, says that the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files was mishandled says that Venezuela is really all

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<v Speaker 1>about regime change, that usaid was a disaster, that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a keep in mind, you know, part of why

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<v Speaker 1>this is so crazy is it's not just about telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. This White House, her employee, Caroline Leavitt took

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<v Speaker 1>to the podium to defend every single part of this

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit at the time, as the official part of the admitted,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's admitting that in private. Oh my god, we

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<v Speaker 1>were a gas by it. We were disgusted. We tried

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<v Speaker 1>to move off of this policy. The prosecutions are political.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how is that going to play in court?

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<v Speaker 1>How is this going to play if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>true court? James comy, congratulations, you just got acquitted, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia James who they've tried to indict what three more times?

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<v Speaker 5>Great times from a grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Jury and can't get it. Yeah, good luck, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to the prosecutors who are trying to do this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so crazy. I have never seen anything like this

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<v Speaker 1>in my entire time covering Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Ever, it is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me read and she, by the way, undercut a

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<v Speaker 2>number of other policies. She talked about how they mean

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<v Speaker 2>to be more careful with deportations. She said she did

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<v Speaker 2>not agree with pardoning the violent January sixth ers, that

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<v Speaker 2>she pushed to just do the nonviolent ones and was overruled. There,

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<v Speaker 2>So all kinds of the like most like core and

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<v Speaker 2>controversial Trump two point zero policies. She's effectively undercutting here

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<v Speaker 2>everything from the day one j six rioters pardons up

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<v Speaker 2>into Venezuela, where she's just giving the game away, that

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<v Speaker 2>the blowing up of the bots isn't about drugs, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about regime change. On the political retribution piece, let me

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<v Speaker 2>read a little bit of this, so she said, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a loose agreement that the score settling will

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<v Speaker 2>end before the first ninety days are over, she said

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<v Speaker 2>at the time when that did not happen. By August,

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<v Speaker 2>she told mister Whipple that I don't think he's on

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<v Speaker 2>a retribution tour, but said that Trump was aiming at

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<v Speaker 2>people who did bad things and coming after him. In

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<v Speaker 2>some cases it may look like retribution, and there may

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<v Speaker 2>be an element of that from time to time.

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<v Speaker 5>Who would blame him, not me? And so in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of just.

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<v Speaker 2>Actual real world impact, yeah, any of those court cases,

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<v Speaker 2>Tisha James, James, call me Eric Swallwell, Adam Schiff. There's

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<v Speaker 2>been all sorts of talk about people that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to go after on this mortgage fraud bullshit. Those cases

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<v Speaker 2>will all be undercut today extent that they had any

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<v Speaker 2>likes to begin with, by this overt admission from the

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<v Speaker 2>Chief of Staff that yes, these are political. This is

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<v Speaker 2>about retribution, that's what he's doing. So that in and

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<v Speaker 2>of itself is wild to undercut jd Vance. Trump may

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<v Speaker 2>not really care that much about that, but to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh yeah, of course he converted to trump

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<v Speaker 2>Ism because it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Political, which is obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, here you've got the Chief of Staff

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging what everybody could see the reality in front of

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes, calling him a conspiracy theorist, talking about Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>drug use, all of it. I mean, yeah, it's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing about this saga is the White

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 2>House participated with all of this, like this was authorized.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a big, like glossy photo shoot involved

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of different administration officials. Other officials spoke

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to this reporter as well, So this was all this

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 2>whole project. This whole write up was greenlit by the administration,

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>even though you know, I would be very so prize

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<v Speaker 2>if they knew the extent of what Susie Wiles was

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<v Speaker 2>saying here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they didn't know. I can already my phone's it's

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 1>pinging a little bit here right now. Yeah, I'll just

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll just leave it at that. In terms of what

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 1>people around Washington, including people who are I mean, here's

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing. It's an unspoken rule here in DC when

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you work for somebody, you never make yourself the story.

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Never so the White House chief of staff, many chiefs

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of staff, you know, to presidents and others, they don't

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>sit for interviews. Why because your job is to execute

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the agenda of the president. You're never supposed to be

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the main character. Ever, that's the job of the principle.

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I know this sounds like kind of servile, but like

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in a certain way, like that's the job, right, That's

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>what you do as a staffer. And so for sitting

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>for eleven interviews here, eleven interviews and just letting loose

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>about your thoughts about how Pam Bondi's an idiot, she

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>said completely whift on Epstein. I mean, if the White

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>House Chief of Staff thinks this, How can we as

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>citizens have any confidence in our government if the White

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>House Chief of Staff is openly saying that what the

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>President is saying is a lie, Is that many cabinet

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>members are idiots or incompetent? Is that doge which was

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>held up as a central pillar of the administration there

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>at the time, what she was quote aghast by it?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, what are you doing in that job? Lady?

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>What are you even doing? If you think this you

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>should leave right? What does it say about you that

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you think all of this and that you're sticking around

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to quote do something about it because you're obviously you're

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 1>not doing a very good job. You actually don't have

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that much influence if that's what you think that you're doing.

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And then second, yeah, I just I cannot get over

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>how you can just openly admit so many things which

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>again we all know are true. But there is a

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>difference legally, first of all, in a court of law

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to say that you have a political prosecution. But second,

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like on regime change, that's got to be one of

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 1>the most consequential policies of the entire Trump administration. And

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to just come out and be like, our flimsy bullshit

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>pretext is in fact, the bullshit is amazing. I mean

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it's shocking to the cares well.

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's something in a future administration if you've got

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Democrats in control, like people need to think about the

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, potential prosecutions they clearly are worried about, like

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>with the double tap strike, whether that was legal or not. Obviously,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 2>like I think the whole thing is illegal, but they

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>clearly got nervous about that as well, judging by the reaction.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>So when you have her coming out and publicly undercutting

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the bullshit legal pretext that they've been using, Yeah, that's

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a big problem for Pete Hegseth. That's a big

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>problem for that admiral what was it, Admiral Bradley who

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was kind of thrown under the bus. That's a big

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>problem for all of the seals that were involved in

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>this policy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's that's a big issue.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Let me read the part of the Epstein portion, because

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this is pretty wild too. So this is about Pam Bondi.

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 2>She also gets into Trump a little bit with regard

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>to Epstein. So, as you mentioned before, Soccercy says, I

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 2>think Bondi completely whipped, appreciating that that was very targeted

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 2>group that cared about this. First she gave them binders

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>full of nothingness. Then she said the witness list or

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the client list was on her desk. There is no

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>client list, and it's sure as hell wasn't on her desk.

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Mister Vance, by contrast, she said, understood the sensitivity because

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>he himself was a conspiracy theorist. She said so again,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>saying directly, when Pam Bondi told you that this was

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>on her desk, she was lying, there is no client list.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>It's sure as hell was not on her desk. That

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>is what she had to say about that. And then

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>she says that she has read the Epstein documents and

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>acknowledged Trump's name is in them. Quote, we know he's

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>in the file, and he's not in the file doing

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>anything awful. Nothing awful, Sager. So rest easy there. But

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>neither apparently, this is one more part on this. Neither

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>apparently is Bill Clinton. Asked about Trump's claims going back

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>years that Clinton had visited the Epstein island as well,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>said there is no evidence. Asked if there's incriminating evidence

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>about Clinton and the files as Trump has suggested. She

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>says the President was wrong about that. So she's saying

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Trump is lying. Trump is in the files but not

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>doing anything awful, and that he is lying about what

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the files contained with regard to Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy, man, I truly have never seen anything

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like this. The last interview that was anything remotely comparable,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, was maybe Steve Bannon in the first

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred Days where he openly trashed Jared Kushner and other

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>members of the administration. Who was it to the American Prospect?

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? It was some like kind of.

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Left It was like New York magazine.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>No, it was a lefty magazine.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I remember Near Magazine is kind of lefty. But anyway,

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember exactly, but yeah.

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>There was that. But honestly, like Stan McCrystal, he was

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the general in charge of Afghanistan at the time, and

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Michael Hastings, the Rolling Stone journalist, ended up being delayed

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and McCrystal, what did he say about Obama? He said

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>he was an idiot something like that. I had some

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.959
<v Speaker 1>comment about Obama where he was like, he's dumb. Uh

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>published it and he was immediately fired. But that was

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>in the old rules. I don't know if that's going

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to happen now. I have no idea I have. I mean,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>how could you ever enter a cabinet meeting again when

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean Susie Wilds, who I guess is one of

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>your technically kind of your boss, is out there just

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>trashing you, uh in the public. It's amazing, But that's

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the world we live in. Is Cash Patel sitting for

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:29.719
<v Speaker 1>interviews about his love life with Stephen Miller's wife, who's

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>dressed casually for some reason. This entire thing, I don't know.

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is happening to this uh, to

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>this government. But yeah, we're being confederacy and I don't

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>even have work. I'm literally speechless. How retarded this is.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. It's fucking crazy.

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>So you have the chief of staff, so this is

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 2>not live trust arrangement, Trump's chief of staff saying he's

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>lying about the Epstein files, Pam Bondi was lying about

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the Epstein files, that she disagrees with the deportation approach,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the USAID approach, that Elon Musk, who was handed the

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>keys to the whole freaking government, is a drug addict,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>that russ vote who still has the keys. The whole

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>government is a right wing ID love that the vice

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>president is a conspiracy theorist. I mean, what more could

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>you possibly get into this series of interviews.

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 5>It's pretty wild. I don't know.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have to think that there would be

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>some like, there has to be some blowback for this.

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially the parts where she says things about Trump,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 2>in particular that he's lying and that she disagreed with

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>him on the J six pardons and you know, the

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>undercutting of the Venezuela policy. That's a live, active, very significant,

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>serious issue, and here she is just like giving the

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>game away on that one.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's very different from my impression of her, Like I

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't know anything about her, but it seemed like she

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>was just this very we haven't heard from her that

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 2>she is very like disciplined and buttoned up.

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 5>This is the total opposite of that.

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, maybe everything Trump everyone turns into a

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>narcissist around Trump. I guess you know that's possible, asked.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I also wonder how hill you know he's he's very

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>against alcohol at.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>All right being described.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.959
<v Speaker 2>I also wonder how he'll react to being characterized as

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>having the personality of an alcoholic.

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>His brother that will land with him. Yeah, yeah, I

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>go over, No man, all right, more consequential news. We

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>got Juanda vid Rojas standing by to talk about Chile.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to it. Turning now to our friend Juanda

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>vid Rojas, who joins us live to discuss the most

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>recent elections in Chile, who have elected a new right

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>wing president, Jose Antonio cast by nearly twenty point margin one.

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Our excellent analyst of all things Latin America joins us

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to break down. Good to see you man, Thanks for

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>having guys. Absolutely so let's put this up here on

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the screen. Why the Chilean left fail you discuss some

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of the policies over the last five years, some of

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the rise here of Jose Antonio coast about how exactly

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this all came to be. Why don't you break some

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of it down for us and maybe what it means

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>for the region and if anything, for the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>So gust he's you know, he's been called far right,

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 4>like ultra conservative. He's very conservative. He is an apologist

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 4>for the Pinochet dictatorship, which for decades after the dictatorship

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 4>of people on the right tried to like distance some

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 4>distance themselves from the former dictator. And actually the first

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 4>like few presidents after the dictatorship were all like center left.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 4>It was only until Seast I think in like twenty ten,

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 4>who was like the first conservative when he was like

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 4>tried to distance himself from the dictatorship. Cost is like

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>he says that, like, you know, he condemns the human

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 4>rights abuses, but that you know, his legacy and especially

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Pinochet's economic legacy were great. His brother actually was one

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 4>of the Chicago boys that advised Pinochet and like installing

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 4>this neoliberal model. The country is known as like the

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>cradle of neoliberalism. And so his brother, Migekas, actually served

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 4>as the president of Chile Central Bank during the dictatorship.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 4>And so you know, there's a lot of polarization around this.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 4>People on the left will say that, you know, will

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 4>condemn the human rights abuses and like a lot of

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 4>the legacy of the economic policies, and people on the

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 4>right will say, oh, look, but we had this great

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 4>economic growth afterwards and this kind of this kind of

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 4>flaws and some of these arguments. So that's a bit

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 4>of the rundown for the moment for the United States.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 4>Cost Almost all right wingers in Latin America, you could

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 4>describe them as neo conservatives. They worshiped the United States.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 4>They hate Russia, China, I run blah blah blah blah.

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 4>This guy like is going to be really good for

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 4>the current administration. He loves me. Lay a lot of

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>like posting after the election was showing how like geographically

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 4>the continent of South the South America is like divided

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 4>along the middle between right and left governments, and Melay,

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 4>what he did is that he posted like the the

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 4>like western half that are like conservative governments, this like

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 4>tech bro like futurism stuff with like skyscrapers, and then

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 4>the leftist governments are a bunch of like Brazilian favollas.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 4>So that's to give you an idea.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Got it, gotcha.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>So they're they're excited about like the prospera type ification

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>of those countries.

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's a good way of putting it.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 2>So his his brother was a Chicago School neoliberal economic

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>adjustment austerity guy. Dad was a Nazi. He's a Pinochet apologist.

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>This is a lot, it's a lot to take it.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>So what was it that you know, people were responding

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to to reject the the you know, more left leaning

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>government and go with this guy who you know, I mean,

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>his politics are pretty radical from those familiar collect Uh

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>connections and his embrace or justification of Pinochet but also

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the embrace of Malay. Also says he wants to consult

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>with Bikelly with regards to to crime. So, I mean,

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty dramatic turn what led to it?

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I will say that Kas despite his past

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 4>and and like he this is the third time he

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 4>ran for president, and previous other times he was like

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 4>really hardline on abortion, he kind of toned that down

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 4>this time around. He is honestly, as far as like

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 4>anyone can really say, a committed democrat, he's not. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not interested in like trying to take over all

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 4>the institutions, persecute his opponents, and like govern for life

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.439
<v Speaker 4>like Pinochet, and in general you can he even also

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 4>say that like the candidate that he defeated was the

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 4>Communist Party candidate. She was nominated by the Communist Party,

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 4>but for communists, honestly, she was pretty moderate. She was

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.320
<v Speaker 4>really critical of like human rights abuses by like Maduro

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 4>and Artaica in Latin America, which is I said, like

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 4>in some other time that it's rare for like leftists

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 4>to openly like celebrate Maduro. It's also rare for them

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>to be stridently critical of him too, So that's something

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 4>interesting in Chilean politics, and I think that explains a

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 4>lot why so many people were willing to gravitate towards him.

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<v Speaker 4>As for the failings of the current government, current President

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<v Speaker 4>Gabriel Borodich, he won in twenty twenty one, he was

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 4>seen as like the shining star on the international left.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 4>The country was like trying to rewrite his constitution and

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 4>he said he was going to ury neoliberalism. That didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really work out, and we can talk some more about that,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 4>but in a nutshell, I like to say that he

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 4>was basically like the Chilean Mam Donnie. And to be clear,

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 4>I like him and mom Donnie. I think both of

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 4>them like on a personal level. They seem kind of

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 4>like nice guys and charismatic, et cetera. And Bodich actually

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 4>did some really good things in my opinion. He raised

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 4>them minimum wage like twenty percent the forty poorest Chileans,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 4>the bottom forty percent of Chileans now have access to

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 4>free healthcare. Pensions are a little bit less miserly, which

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 4>historically were terrible in Chile. And the best thing actually

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 4>is that there's a gradual reduction in the work week

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 4>from forty five to forty hours. That's something that unions

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 4>had been demanding for decades, really really good stuff. The

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 4>problem is that the broader political environment after the pandemic

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 4>shifted two issues that really benefited the right. There was

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 4>a crime wave. Some of that had to do with

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 4>the fact that there were these like mass protests in

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen that led to the Constitutional Convention, similar to

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.280
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty here with BLM like there was backlash against

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 4>the police and that led to officers like not one

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 4>even like police high crime areas. There's also been a

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 4>broader reconfiguration of the drug trade in South America, favoring

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 4>like Asian and European markets, so that's led a lot

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 4>of organized crime to move into countries like Chile. There

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 4>was inflation, and even though the government rage them in

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 4>a wage the truth is that the increase was roughly

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 4>in line with previous governments, so in relative terms, like

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 4>people's buying power went down. And finally this is always

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the kryptonite for progressive governments. There was this huge migration surge,

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 4>especially in ilegal immigration. The country's immigrant population is double

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 4>to one point six million, is around three hundred thousand undocumented,

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 4>mostly Venezuelan's now in Chile. And that doesn't sound like

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 4>much here, but that's enormous in Chile, considering that the

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 4>country's whole population is around twenty million. And so how

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 4>did a Boord handle that? Similar to with Biden, his

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 4>government had like the lowest amount of deportations in history,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>around half of the previous government and like, for example,

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 4>with Biden, like you can say, for instance that Biden

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 4>apported a lot of people at the border. Within the

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 4>country not so much. And so there was this every

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 4>single time, including in Latin American countries, you see this

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 4>divide between people who are more college educated and more

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 4>working class. And every single time the more college educated

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 4>people have a reluctance understandably so for like you know,

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 4>humanitarian reasons to not really want to like do think

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 4>things like deportations, whereas working class people feel, you know,

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 4>they have concerns over crime, strains the social services competition

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 4>with illegal labor. So it it bords. To his credit,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 4>he did like militarize the northern border to try to

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 4>stem new arrivals. But people really resented the fact that

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 4>the government was not really keeping up enforcement. And Sokas

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 4>has this trumpst program. He wants to build a border

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 4>shield of walls, ditches, and.

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a long shield.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a skinny country.

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we all know the shape.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>That's tough. That's gonna be a tough wall to build.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Love Chile, by the way, very cool country that I've

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.919
<v Speaker 1>been to before. So finally a question for you, Juan.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>You talked there about America. What about Venezuela, Like you

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>just said, what's the opinion on the on the current

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 1>government on regime change? Would they be supportive of something

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>like that? Traditionally, you know, with Pinochet and our past relations,

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it was viewed as this like power center of bulwark

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>against Latin American leftism. Is that something that we're going

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>to see again? What do you think?

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah, I'd say that the president elect his administration

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 4>will be We'll go along basically with whatever the Trump

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 4>administration wants, including of Venezuela. The current government of void

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 4>each like I said, they were very critical of Maduro.

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 4>They have said that they would not, you know, support

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 4>any kind of regime change like by force and Venezuela.

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's yea, this is a really sensitive topic.

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who knows. Maybe cous could be apprehensive about

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 4>this though, because the thing is, you know, the president,

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 4>you set for this. It's like, okay, you know, maybe

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 4>we're you like it if it's against Maduro, but it's like,

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 4>you know what, if they can do it to Maduro, right,

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 4>they can do it to anybody.

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's yeah, yeah, And just because they like

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.399
<v Speaker 2>you today doesn't mean in the future they won't turn right,

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 2>So that very very interesting stuff.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 4>One yeah, yeah, oh you know one interesting thing actually

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 4>in Chile, permanent residents, this is hilarious, are allowed to

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 4>vote if they've lived in the country for five years,

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 4>and so Venezuelans were actually a really coverted electorate during

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 4>this past campaign and guess who they voted for. They

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 4>voted for cast was promising to deport them because Venezuelans

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 4>are super neo conservatives. So there's been a lot of

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 4>discussion around that. The leading conservative candidate now in Peru

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 4>for twenty twenty six said that Peru should just give

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 4>citizenship to Venezuelans so that they can vote for him.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 4>It's a talk about importing voters.

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 5>Wow, wow, it's uh.

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's funny stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, dude, this is why we like talking to you.

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of other stuff going on in the world.

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Chile always a fascinating country, beautiful country. Wish them the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us, sir, Thank you, Thank you

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>guys so much for watching. We appreciate it. We have

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a great Crowned Point show for you all tomorrow, and

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.919
<v Speaker 1>we will see you all on Thursday for our last

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>show before Christmas. Christal will be back in the studio,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>don't worry, so we'll see all that