WEBVTT - Manchin and Sinema DGAF

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to will Gate Up Daily

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<v Speaker 1>with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody back recording live from

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<v Speaker 1>our pod stream studios here in Times Square. Imagine having

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to put together historic legislation that would be

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<v Speaker 1>revered for decades to come, as was the New Deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine being able to shape the future of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>protecting us from climate change, for protecting us, for protecting

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<v Speaker 1>families from a shifting economy so that they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>care for their children. That you know, people in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>want to force you to have. Imagine having the power

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and then just deciding, you know what, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. That's what it must be like to be

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<v Speaker 1>O Mansion and Kirsten Cinema, the two most disgustingly selfish

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of shit on the planet right now. The other day,

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<v Speaker 1>Eleventh Films and I talked about this, put out a

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<v Speaker 1>video to tell us exactly how much money the Mansion

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<v Speaker 1>family was making. Cinema is over in Europe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>collecting her checks not from her constituents, right, but collecting

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<v Speaker 1>them from overseas, filling up their packs, filling up their coffers.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't give a fuck. How is it that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a government that is supposed to be foreign by

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<v Speaker 1>the people of these United States, that can be obstructed

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<v Speaker 1>by two senators that represent not even a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>the population fucking combined. How is it that these two

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<v Speaker 1>people that maybe represent a handful of millions of people

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<v Speaker 1>between their two goddamn states get to hold the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of US hostage? You know, there was a video recently

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<v Speaker 1>on CNN that one of the WOKAF listeners sent me,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you set me in the video, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a CNN segment on how West Virginia is being

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<v Speaker 1>hit by thousand year floods often right, how part of

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<v Speaker 1>the state is either underwater and the other half is

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<v Speaker 1>in drought so bad that over the past year, the

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<v Speaker 1>governor of the state has had to declare a state

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<v Speaker 1>of emergency. You declare a state of emergency so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can get federal funds into your state in order

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<v Speaker 1>to help with the cleanup. How often do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to be able to tap on fucking

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<v Speaker 1>FEMA's door before all of that money dries up, Because

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<v Speaker 1>instead of safeguarding these communities like Joe Mansion, has the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do against these you know, thousand year floods.

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<v Speaker 1>He's decided that he's going to block the climate change

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<v Speaker 1>part of the infrastructure bill that would help his own

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn state. And what was worse is that when these

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers were interviewed on CNN and they were asked by

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<v Speaker 1>the reporter, so, you know, what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>climate change and the climate change legislation that is right

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<v Speaker 1>now being stalled because of your senator. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>climate change is a bunch of hoop law, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to play into it, says this stupid, stupid

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<v Speaker 1>man who has been living in a trailer with himself,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, his two kids, and three dogs because he's

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<v Speaker 1>still rebuilding his fucking home from the thousand year old

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<v Speaker 1>flood that took it out. Yeah, but here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not play into reality. Let's not play into the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that insurance companies are not going to cover right

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<v Speaker 1>your rebuild. Let's not play into the fact that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big coal that you think is supporting your livelihood is

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to cost you your life. How can you

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<v Speaker 1>have a livelihood if your house is under fucking water

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't get to work because the bridges have

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<v Speaker 1>been washed away. That's what they were talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>the segment. Since that thousand year flood in this one

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<v Speaker 1>particular town, they still don't have a grocery store, they

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<v Speaker 1>still don't have an elementary school, and I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a courthouse either, because they've been wiped

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<v Speaker 1>away and they have yet to be rebuilt. Joe Mansion

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<v Speaker 1>has been in control of that state for the last

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<v Speaker 1>forty goddamn years, and they are fucking ringing in dead

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<v Speaker 1>last and most societal metrics. And then you have these

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<v Speaker 1>people so fucking brainwashed right by the right wing as

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<v Speaker 1>they're staying standing in water up to their fucking waists

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Oh, I'm not going to play into climate change?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you dumb? And this is what I realize is

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't matter whether it's Democrats or Republicans, right

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't care about their constituents. They really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They care about money, They care about themselves, They care

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<v Speaker 1>about you know what is Joe? What is what is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mansion give a fuck about a thousand year old

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand year flood that's coming. When that motherfucker is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting real nice and high on his seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars yacht. Right, how do you justify having close to

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollar yacht when the combined average income of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that live in your fucking state does it?

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<v Speaker 1>It hovers around thirty thousand. But you guys keep voting

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<v Speaker 1>for him and then talking about like how your life

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<v Speaker 1>is better. I'm just so confused, I really am. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I spent a god awful amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>watching the news the other day and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that, you know, I turn it off after

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of hours, and I'm wondering why my

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<v Speaker 1>mood is such shit. I'm wondering why, like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so anxious, And it's because nothing is being done. The

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<v Speaker 1>news highlights every single problem that we're facing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing is being taken care of, not one goddamn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if people were to ask me, you know, what,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, what kind of grade would you give

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden right now? Which, by the way, he has

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty percent disapproval rating. He has his worst rating

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<v Speaker 1>since he entered into office in January this month. And

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<v Speaker 1>do you know why, because we actually thought that we

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<v Speaker 1>were voting historically for change, not for mediocrity, not for

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of bullshit executive orders that can be turned

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<v Speaker 1>over with the next president that comes in, as we

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<v Speaker 1>saw with Barack Obama. We've seen what exactly what has

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden Harris administration done over the last ten months.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they locked up the members of Congress that were

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<v Speaker 1>behind the insurrection? Have they locked up anybody that was

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<v Speaker 1>behind the insurrection, the attempted coup to overthrow our government?

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<v Speaker 1>Have they put together a voting rights bill that would

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<v Speaker 1>pass and push back against all of the three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>plus voter suppression laws that have gone out. Have they

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<v Speaker 1>offered up anything to help women's women's rights right to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that Rovi Wade remains. No, they haven't. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the Justice Department right now that is saying that

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening in Texas to Texas bill is unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>They're asking for a stay by the Supreme Court. But

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, we got a six to three court, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's null and void. You tell me how many justices,

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<v Speaker 1>how many federal justices has fucking Biden put out in

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten months? Right? Anything anything come into mind

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<v Speaker 1>that any justices? Have there been a hundred that have

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<v Speaker 1>been appointed. Have there been fifty? Have there been twenty five? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that maybe we have five to ten. I

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<v Speaker 1>am just sick to death of being told there is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that we can do, knowing that we are about

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<v Speaker 1>to lose the House and the Senate in a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what then We will lose the White House

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<v Speaker 1>and we will be right back to where we were

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<v Speaker 1>in the Trump era, and it'll be worse because they

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<v Speaker 1>are emboldened and empowered, and we will have nothing, no recourse,

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<v Speaker 1>no nothing. And I continue to tell people, you better

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<v Speaker 1>fucking enjoy your life right now. You better enjoy each

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<v Speaker 1>and every moment, because what is on the horizon is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be worse than your worst nightmare. It is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be worse than what we experience during the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump era. Because you know what Republicans know, they are

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<v Speaker 1>fucking winning. They are winning across aboard their white evangelical

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<v Speaker 1>Christian white supremacy fucking scheme over the last thirty forty

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<v Speaker 1>years is now coming to fruition. And let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something what doctor Jonathan Metzel said earlier this week

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<v Speaker 1>that when a hundred year old law is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be overturned by the Supreme Court, trust and believe that

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<v Speaker 1>every single fucking right that you think that you've had

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<v Speaker 1>and you think is just in stone, including you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the end of slavery, Brown versus the Board of Education, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things that you think are like sewed

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<v Speaker 1>up and oh, they'll never come for that. Fucking Wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>They are marching right towards it. First they come for

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<v Speaker 1>women's rights, right, and you think that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop an abortion. No, no, no, they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come for birth control. They are going to come for IVF,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna come for surrogacy, They're gonna come for every

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<v Speaker 1>way that they can manipulate and own a woman's body,

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<v Speaker 1>which then will own a woman's future. In this country,

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<v Speaker 1>we love to parade ourselves around the world to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about women's rights and what women need, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do dick to project women at home. So again I ask,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a Biden administration doing about that? What is

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<v Speaker 1>a Biden administration doing about the fact that we need

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<v Speaker 1>a voting rights, build a pass, and we need the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking filibuster to be deaded. And you have two fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats right now who the media continues to call moderates

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<v Speaker 1>when that's not what the fuck they are. They are obstructionists.

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<v Speaker 1>They might as well be arsonists to our democracy because

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<v Speaker 1>it is going up in smoke because of them. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a three point five trillion dollar robust bill that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be life changing, generation changing for this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It is being whittled down, as I fucking speak, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Joe Mansion doesn't like certain things. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to vote for Joe Mansion, So why the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>does he get to be the one that is making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for the rest of us. That's the question that

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<v Speaker 1>we should all be asking. You didn't get to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Mansion. You voted for Joe Biden. But Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden isn't the one that's acting like the president of

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking United States right now? Is he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>to me that it's Joe Mansion and fucking Kursen Cinema

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<v Speaker 1>as president and vice president and the people did not

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<v Speaker 1>vote for them. I am sick to death of the inaction.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick to death of the iNTS. I'm sick to

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<v Speaker 1>death of being told, well, everyone's hands are tied, because

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<v Speaker 1>when Republicans have power, their hands are never tied. And

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<v Speaker 1>what Glenn Kushner told us last week is like they

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<v Speaker 1>will work inside and outside of the law. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck. And you know why they don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck because Democrats never hold their feet to the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not afraid of Democrats. There is no fear

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<v Speaker 1>there because they know they won't do shit. Steve Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>was just voted nine to zero to be held in

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<v Speaker 1>criminal content. This is gonna be a long drawn out,

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit thing. You tell me why we can't have federal

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<v Speaker 1>agents knocking down that motherfucker's door and dragging him out,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he was part of a conspiracy to overthrow

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking government. If he were a brown man, if

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<v Speaker 1>he were a Muslim man, you think that Steve Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>would be fucking walking around these United States open and free,

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<v Speaker 1>or you think that he would be in somebody's fucking

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<v Speaker 1>federal prison awaiting a fucking trial. I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>us to have the same goddamn standards that have been

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<v Speaker 1>put in place to put black and brown and poor

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<v Speaker 1>people in their place, to put the wealthy, white and

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<v Speaker 1>privilege in their fucking place. But alas we do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you this country, this administration is an entire

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<v Speaker 1>fucking disappointment. So if you find yourself most days just

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<v Speaker 1>being like, you know what, I want to stop caring.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you, I am you and you are me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the rage is just it doesn't go anywhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure out a vessel to put it in. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like most days i am screaming out into the

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<v Speaker 1>void because I'm looking around at the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in power, who have open ears and open eyes, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet are pretending like we're not under attack, like that

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<v Speaker 1>we are not at war with authoritarian fascist right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Wake the fuck up, Woosa wo Sa Friends. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next is my conversation with Nadia Okamoto. She is the

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<v Speaker 1>host of a new show called Tigress, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>get into a really great conversation on reproductive rights, on periods,

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<v Speaker 1>on menstrual cycles. That is coming up next, folks. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so excited to not only welcome onto Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>into the DCP entertainment family, Nadia Okamoto, host of the

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<v Speaker 1>new show Ti Griff. I am really excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you because your background, the work that you have

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<v Speaker 1>already done is so interesting. You're the co founder of August,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lifestyle period brand working to reimagine periods.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about that being as how right now

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of devolving into the Handmaid's Tale, where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, setting up the situation, a scenario in which

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<v Speaker 1>it is becoming completely normalized in Okay to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to policing women's bodies and policing women's reproduction. We barely

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<v Speaker 1>have normal commercials about periods on television when we're selling tampons, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to me about what it means to reimagine

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<v Speaker 1>the period. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that you bring up the Handmaid's Tale, which, by the

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<v Speaker 1>way of the show I could not watch because it

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<v Speaker 1>made me so angry because it is terrifyingly realistic in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways. Right, but you know, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of building off of that. A huge part of

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<v Speaker 1>my mission with August Branding and reimagining period care is

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<v Speaker 1>to say this is a part of our biological process

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<v Speaker 1>that makes human life possible and needs to be treated

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<v Speaker 1>as the magical, powerful thing that it is. Right. That

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<v Speaker 1>means being very upfront about period blood. I post multiple

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<v Speaker 1>videos of period blood on TikTok a day of my

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<v Speaker 1>own period blood and showing how the products actually work,

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<v Speaker 1>and being open about period pain so people aren't having

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<v Speaker 1>to suffer in silence, talking about the inequalities around access

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<v Speaker 1>to period care, which I believe should be completely subsidized

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<v Speaker 1>and supported for free. And I think also when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about reimagining periods similar to the Handmaid's Tale, which

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<v Speaker 1>equates women to having a sole purpose and utility of

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<v Speaker 1>bearing children, I think that's been a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation around periods. Right. When you're taught as a young

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<v Speaker 1>person what a period is, You're taught that is when

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<v Speaker 1>you can now bear children, right, when menopauses when you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot bear children anymore? Right? And how we know what

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<v Speaker 1>it means when you do or do not get your

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<v Speaker 1>period is whether you're pregnant or not. Right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of what we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>was throughout history, when you look at period ads, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buy our products so that you can hide

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<v Speaker 1>your period, you can forget about it, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>attract the date. Right. How many period ads have we

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<v Speaker 1>seen throughout history where it's like, oh, when she puts

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<v Speaker 1>the tamp on in her date picks her up and

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<v Speaker 1>they have like a great date and she's wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>white dress, right, Yeah, And I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're trying to say is like, yes, your

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<v Speaker 1>period is linked to fertility, by de fact, that does

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<v Speaker 1>not mean having a period as preparing us for motherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not means that having a period is defining

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<v Speaker 1>our utility as someone who can produce, right, and really

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<v Speaker 1>just saying my period is my period and just something

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take care of for my body. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny because I can think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have such vivid memories of when I first got my

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<v Speaker 1>period because I was very young. I was ten years old, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I remember being ten and I was foolishly

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<v Speaker 1>excited about it because I thought it meant that I

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<v Speaker 1>was like becoming a woman, right, because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you were told. And you know, but I remember during

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<v Speaker 1>that time, you know, my mother is a nurse by trade,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had like real conversations about your period, about

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<v Speaker 1>your body, about why you were going to feel uncomfortable

0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>if you were bloating what you know, what was actually happening,

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<v Speaker 1>That it wasn't something to just ignore, right, that it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a part of your body. I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting is that since you know, many many, many

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of moons ago that I got my first period,

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't evolved in the conversations that we have

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<v Speaker 1>about it, right, Like, I still go into an obgyn

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still learning new things, and I'm saying, where

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<v Speaker 1>is the research. We are more than half of the

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<v Speaker 1>population in the United States, and I'm so confused about

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<v Speaker 1>why we don't have like real conversations about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the body, about how it equates, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the moons, with the ocean, with water, with all

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<v Speaker 1>of these facets of you know, our lives, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't talk about it. And I can remember even

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<v Speaker 1>an episode and this will you know not age well

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<v Speaker 1>because of who Bill Cosby is now, but on The

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Cosby Show, when the young character Rudy got her period,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big deal. It was a purposeful episode

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<v Speaker 1>about womanhood and about you know, power and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in fertility and all of these different things. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was around her age it being something that

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<v Speaker 1>was celebrated. What do you think needs to happen? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because even I just I can't imagine what young girls

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<v Speaker 1>and boys should be learning now in school when they're

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<v Speaker 1>taking health classes and sex said and whatever it is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing. I don't ever remember learning about how

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<v Speaker 1>my body changes, like what is to be expected. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like here's a banana. This is how you

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<v Speaker 1>put on a condom, you know, go on your way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And one thing I really want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out too is I think part of our mission of

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<v Speaker 1>reimagining periods is to actually not equate it with womanhood, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know. I also when I got my

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<v Speaker 1>first period, my mom celebrated and said, you're a woman, right,

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of what I understood, like having boobs

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<v Speaker 1>and getting a period was like, now I'm a woman, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that a lot of our mission with

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<v Speaker 1>August is to create like a truly gender inclusive brand,

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<v Speaker 1>because not everyone who gets a period is identifies as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. Yeah, some might be transgender or non binary.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think really making that distinction between gender as

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<v Speaker 1>a social construct and sex is very necessary. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that when you look at the discrimination around periods, right,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be you know, in other countries, girls not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to go to school when they're other period right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like because when you get your period, you

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<v Speaker 1>get married off and have kids. Right, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>your period is when female gender and mutilation happens, because

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<v Speaker 1>now you're a woman that needs to be censored. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that even when we have these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote positive examples of periods in mainstream media, in

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<v Speaker 1>the very small instances where it happens, it's done so

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<v Speaker 1>in a way where it's getting your period equals being

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, right Biologically, that's saying being a woman being

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<v Speaker 1>grown means that I can have children, right. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of what we're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>even with the language that we use, right, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>say feminine care because feminine is an incorrect term. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not only X exclusive. Feminine is about gender expression, not

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<v Speaker 1>gender identity, nor does it have to do with biological

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>sex in your organs. Right. So I think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>so just so much there, you know, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it. What was your question again, everything that

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you were saying it was good, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember, oh, gon sex said? Okay, yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, I think the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>even have sex said in some schools is still like

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<v Speaker 1>like unfortunately, like that is still a big deal. Right

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<v Speaker 1>in most schools, sex said does not happen full stop

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<v Speaker 1>period Right. When we used to do educational initiatives around

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go on the nonprofit I worked on, when

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<v Speaker 1>we would trying to go to schools to talk about periods,

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<v Speaker 1>we could not do it in public schools because it

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<v Speaker 1>was considered such an inappropriate topic. We needed to get

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<v Speaker 1>permission slips from parents about right, Like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>topic that is not considered appropriate. Right, I mean so

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<v Speaker 1>menstruation as a whole. You would have needed to get

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<v Speaker 1>a permission slip to have a conversation about something, Okay

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<v Speaker 1>in most schools that we went to, Yeah, like that

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<v Speaker 1>was the case, and it was such a barrier that

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<v Speaker 1>we could not have those conversations right in the chance,

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, I learned sex that it was one afternoon, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the girls went into one classroom, the boys went

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<v Speaker 1>to other. Right, So also setting up gender binary. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you talk about the basics, right, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>a tampon is, This is what a pad is. Blood

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>will come out like once a month, and it just

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>means you're not pregnant. Right, And here's a tampon, here's

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.199
<v Speaker 1>a pad you might have cramps. Right, we don't learn

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<v Speaker 1>about what color period blood is the fact that like

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:36.119
<v Speaker 1>it's coming out of the vagina, which is not the

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>external part, it's actually the canal, right, and like knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the language. But also I think that where it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important that we get comfortable talking about periods is well

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we talk about periods in mainstream media. It's referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as like just when blood comes out, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the reason why I don't say August is a

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<v Speaker 1>period product company, say we're a lifestyle period brand, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a difference between period and a mensonal cycle. Right.

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>A period is when blood is coming out. The mental

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.639
<v Speaker 1>cycle is the twenty four to seven happening all the

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>time cycle, right, And getting your period is not just

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the blood, it's the period pain, right. And cramps aren't

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time just cramps. It's also uterine fibroids, endometriosis,

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.239
<v Speaker 1>so many other conditions that are completely underdiagnosed that are

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<v Speaker 1>such intersectional issues that we don't talked about because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about periods. Right, So even when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about period cramps, if we do not educate young men

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>streaters about period pain, they will they are conditioned to

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>even gaslight themselves for the very real pain that they're experiencing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't teach non men streaters like young sis

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<v Speaker 1>boys to talk about periods, we will continue with the

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>stigma where people are afraid of being ridiculed for advocating

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for their own health. Right, and that not only has

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.679
<v Speaker 1>repercussions on someone's individual period experience, that expands to period

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.640
<v Speaker 1>poverty when you're looking at whole communities, right, and when

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you look at period pain, I think, which is a

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>very very concrete example, like black women are three times

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<v Speaker 1>as likely to have uterine fibroids, where hasn't been you know,

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>understanding around it, and because of the racism in our

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 1>healthcare system, they are three to four times as likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be recommended and to have hysterectomies, which in a

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>way is kind of like by perpetuating it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>for sterilization, which we've seen throughout history. Yeah, we've made

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<v Speaker 1>progress in terms of what this situation used to be,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>but still that's happening today, Like those numbers are still

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<v Speaker 1>there today, and I think that a lot of it

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is we can't talk about that issue if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about periods in the first place. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't teach people and create a culture where when you

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<v Speaker 1>have period pain, you go to the doctor and you're

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 1>not just saying, oh, that's just cramps, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're really taught to be in touch with your body

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about it and advocating for it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing too, is that we're actually taught the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite right not to talk about it, don't mention it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you brought up hysterectomies. My late grandmother, after

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<v Speaker 1>birthing five children, had a hysterectomy. In later when I

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>was older, I believe that I asked my mother why

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 1>the doctor had recommended she have a hysterectomy. This was

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>at a time when they were given out hysterirectomies, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they were taking tonsils out and thinking that

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there weren't any repercussions to that. It's like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just removed and then you'll be fine. No, you've created

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>an entire imbalance now in the body that can push

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<v Speaker 1>people into early menopause, push women into really manic depression

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because you're altering hormones when that happens. But again, that

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>none of that was part of the education process. And

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<v Speaker 1>I realized too that it was because we don't teach

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>medical school students still about like the details around around

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>around a woman's body, just like in general. And I

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<v Speaker 1>say woman because in there are very few doctors right now,

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<v Speaker 1>like very few places where you can go and have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation and people not what do you mean when

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<v Speaker 1>you say that there are people who are not women

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<v Speaker 1>who are who have periods? That makes no sense. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you teach people or how can people learn to

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:17.479
<v Speaker 1>unpack and distill those very distinct things down when we

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>have all been programmed into into thinking that way. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just recent and I'm queer, and I

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>just recently started when I was talking about the reproductive

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>justice issues and problems and the hell that Abbot has

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>released on Texas and the country. Have been talking about

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>people who can give birth right people with you to

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<v Speaker 1>like I have been, and that is a new thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be changing the language to be more inclusive and expansive.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you teach people how to unpack those

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<v Speaker 1>things that they've been pre programmed to understand? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is actually like something that I've worked on

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<v Speaker 1>originally from the you know, several years ago, I was

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<v Speaker 1>chief brand officer to gen Z Marketing Agency and we

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<v Speaker 1>worked with a lot of large corporations on how to

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<v Speaker 1>create like workforces for the next generation, and pronouns was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge part of it. And I think that pronouns

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<v Speaker 1>were and solar like one of the hardest things to

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<v Speaker 1>teach people of a different generation where they've spent decades

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<v Speaker 1>thinking boy or girl, right, boy or girl? Boy or

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<v Speaker 1>girl like when you meet someone, And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it actually has to do with going all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back and thinking like asking them like, what does it

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean to be a man? Like what is masculinity?

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<v Speaker 1>And separating gender expression to gender identity to biological sex, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that really understanding that is how you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to be like, Okay, but don't you don't we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that even if I have a penis, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm a masculine macho identify as a guy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That can mean I express myself in different ways. That

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<v Speaker 1>can mean I identify in different ways. And what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean to be like? These are the questions we ask,

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<v Speaker 1>right when you draw a man on a piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it that people in when we run these workshops.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do most people draw tie? Right when you draw

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<v Speaker 1>a woman? Why is it that you often draw a

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<v Speaker 1>necklace or boobs or you know, long hair, right? But

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>we know women you have short hair? Does that make

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<v Speaker 1>them less of a right? So, like, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of unpacking this is actually kind of going to

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<v Speaker 1>that going to the very basics, which is like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well where does that education needs to start, like elementary school,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the household? Right? So I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it does have to happen in the schools. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's really interesting is like the language pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I think about a lot, because when we work internationally,

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<v Speaker 1>if we talk about menstruators and we don't use gendered terms,

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<v Speaker 1>we get nothing done right, like, And it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I really struggle with, especially I used to travel internationally

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<v Speaker 1>pre pandemic and doing a lot of this advocacy. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>walk into rooms. Actually once I was in South Africa

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like talking about people with periods and menstruators,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were so upset, Like the people I was

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with, so upset and so angry that I could

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<v Speaker 1>even think that that they completely like discredited the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we should even have that conversation, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of wait, wait before you move,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to understand what was it that was

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting them, the feeling that identity anything and anything. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that a lot of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the US. Also, the US is still fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up and we have so much work to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>in comparison to a lot of other communities around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we can sit here on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that is like a mainstream podcast talking about trans identity,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, that's why I think I have a responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>as a SIS yes, queer person of color to like

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<v Speaker 1>come up and like talk about this. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that what I've not what I've what I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>is when working internationally or in communities where even bringing

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<v Speaker 1>that up is so angering that it actually discounts for

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<v Speaker 1>even having it. And it's just like and then the

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<v Speaker 1>question that I went I'm not a therapist, but the

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<v Speaker 1>question that I would ask is, like, where is your

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<v Speaker 1>anger coming from? Yeah? As always, dear friends, power to

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<v Speaker 1>the people and to all the people. Power get woke

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<v Speaker 1>and stay woke as fuck.