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Speaker 1: Thirty birds, What's up? And welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's I'm your Host Will McFadden,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Tory mclaney and Tarren Walk and

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Speaker 1: we are here to recap the second and final joint

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Speaker 1: practice between the Miami Dolphins and the Atlanta Falcons. Tory,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with you, what did you see out there

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Speaker 1: today and how did it maybe compare and contrast with

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Speaker 1: what you saw on day one.

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Speaker 2: Well, the way that Tarran and I split up the

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Speaker 2: work these last two days is I spent Tuesday with

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Speaker 2: the defense, she spent Tuesday with the offense, and then

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Speaker 2: we've switched for today on Wednesday. So it was interesting

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Speaker 2: because all I can go off of from what the

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Speaker 2: offense did the day before was based on Terran's notes,

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Speaker 2: and so going back and looking at those, it was

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Speaker 2: very evident that things got off to a slow start,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about that yesterday. Today didn't feel like

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Speaker 2: that at all. Today felt a lot more clean. It

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Speaker 2: felt like there were a lot more opportunities for Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins to connect to guys. I mean, he went twelve

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Speaker 2: of fifteen by my account, so.

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Speaker 3: And I will say.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, like he completed nine of his

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Speaker 2: first ten passes on the entire day, so he came

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Speaker 2: out of the gate fast start, fast start.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: I thought that it was productive.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of there were no one on ones,

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Speaker 2: there were no seven on seven. It was a lot

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Speaker 2: of eleven on eleven team work today, which I think

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Speaker 2: was a byproduct of what Raheem Morris said before, where

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Speaker 2: he was like, practice is going to load down today

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Speaker 2: whereas yesterdays was a bit more higher intensity. But I

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Speaker 2: still felt like a lot of good work got put in.

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Speaker 1: Taren, you got the chance to watch the defense for

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Speaker 1: the first time. They had a great start. I think

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Speaker 1: to the joint sessions, what did you see from them

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Speaker 4: Right? I think they still had a really good second day.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of funny to hear how the offense flipped.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I was the bad luck charm over there, but

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Speaker 4: just just kidding. TJ Yates, quarterbacks coach, did say prior

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Speaker 4: to practice that the Falcons had a really slow start

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Speaker 4: yesterday to begin, which I noted on this podcast, and

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Speaker 4: then yesterday's camp report that like Kirkut three incompletions in

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Speaker 4: his first series, So to hear that he went nine

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Speaker 4: of ten right off the gate is like, you can

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Speaker 4: see that adjustment had taken place. And yeah, you do

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Speaker 4: have to acknowledge the fact that they flew all the

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Speaker 4: way here. The weather is completely different. It's a whole

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Speaker 4: new environment, like just everything has changed, So that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is what it is there. But with

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Speaker 4: the defense, their consistency continued into day two, So it's

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Speaker 4: good to see that they were able to start fast,

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Speaker 4: continue fast and not have a drop off even the

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Speaker 4: second day, because I feel like in training camps from

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Speaker 4: my experience, they flipped kind of the days. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: here in Miami last year, but I know the joint

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Speaker 4: practices between the New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 4: two years ago. It was like one day one team

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Speaker 4: had an advantage, the other team day the other team

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Speaker 4: had an advantage. I feel like watching we flipped units.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's hard to say one or the other.

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Speaker 4: But I do think Atlanta had the defensive advantage over

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Speaker 4: Miami today, defensively because the first team Dolphins didn't get

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Speaker 4: into the end zone once even though, like which was

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Speaker 4: weird they started in the red zone in their first period,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was different rather than saving it for

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Speaker 4: the end. We didn't get two minutes or more red

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Speaker 4: zone later because of something we'll get to. But I

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Speaker 4: just thought the starters played really well and they were

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Speaker 4: able to like maintain and control the Dolphins' offense.

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Speaker 3: Switching between offense and defense out loud, it's really difficult.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, ognitively, oh my gosh, figuring it out. We

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Speaker 4: are dehydrated, rain, sun drained, literally, but I am consciously

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Speaker 4: going back and forth. That's probably the one I wanted. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: the defense did really well.

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Speaker 1: Short well, I'm almost wondering, and this is a little

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Speaker 1: I guess, behind the scenes procedural thing. Did y'all like

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Speaker 1: the experience of switching and kind of doing offense one

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Speaker 1: You're locked in on the offense and kind of own

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Speaker 3: It kind of goes back and forth. For me, I

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Speaker 2: I feel like I would have felt weird if I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to see the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Going into Friday being like I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think that would have been weird, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't have been able to speak

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Speaker 2: with authority on you know, if I was just watching

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Speaker 2: the defense for two days, and I don't think I

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Speaker 2: would have been able to speak with authority on how

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennox has looked and like that's such a big

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Speaker 2: part of like how the wide receiver rotation looked, how

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Speaker 2: this offensive line was blocking, you know, all those things

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't I wouldn't have been.

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Speaker 3: Able to speak on.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that it was for the best

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Speaker 4: But on the flip side, especially with the offense, it's

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Speaker 4: kind of like I had like the bad taste of

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Speaker 4: my mouth and here you are, like it's grand all time, Like.

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Speaker 3: Here's the sugar. So I see both sides of it's.

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Speaker 1: The details, right, It's like the little things that you

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Speaker 1: see are incremental changes, or like you know, so and

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Speaker 1: then on day two got fourteen reps and it's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: he really did a lot with those seven I felt,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the coaches did too, like just little thing

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Speaker 1: like that, give us all the all twenty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would devour that. But let's go ahead and get

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Speaker 1: into kind of our main topic for today's show. We

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Speaker 1: kind of put it off a little bit because it's

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Speaker 1: not the most fun thing to talk about.

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Speaker 3: It actually sucks, it.

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Speaker 1: Really really does. So practice concluded partially because of ron Dale.

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Speaker 1: Moore went to the turf back of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: I was right there in front of it, but I

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Speaker 1: But I honestly it had been a physical kind of day,

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Speaker 1: very quickly became apparent that something was wrong. He reached

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Speaker 1: So everybody came over, circled around Rondale. Falcons players took

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Speaker 1: brought out a stretcher carted him off. No news on

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Speaker 1: what are your reactions to that injury? Because we all

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Speaker 1: a nice moment of solidarity for the two teams, but

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Speaker 1: to talk about it is, if if Ronde Moore is

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Speaker 1: going to miss an extended period of time, how do

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Speaker 1: the Falcons go about filling that vacancy. We'd seen Ray

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Speaker 1: know the starters in quotes. You may not be impacted,

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Speaker 1: but Rone Moore was probably going to be a pretty

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Speaker 1: we don't know anything at this point of how this

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Speaker 1: is all going to play out, But Taren, is is

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Speaker 1: there anybody that you've maybe seen so far in camp

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Speaker 4: I know we've been bouncing back and forth for the

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Speaker 4: but Ray Ray deserves it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it would.

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Speaker 1: Have been like it's no, he's done his right.

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Speaker 3: It's not that he doesn't deserve it.

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Speaker 4: It's he has deserved it, and it's just unfortunate that

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Speaker 4: Rondo doesn't have a shot at it.

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Speaker 3: That's the point here. But Ray's been doing really well.

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Speaker 4: I know I Killard adores him and like sees so

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Speaker 3: I know Casey Washington is another option.

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Speaker 4: You just look at him and you see athlete his calves.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the first mention in Casey Washington's calves on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: hopefully not the last.

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Speaker 3: I can't resist I neither an apple in there.

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Speaker 1: It was almost an HR violation how much I was

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Speaker 1: like oggling this man's calves on the first dance cam.

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Speaker 3: And it's a while.

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Speaker 4: You just look at him and you're like the athlete.

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Speaker 4: You can't do anything else besides compete. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 4: brilliant in other regards, but you can only compete.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about beach volleyball game that we

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Speaker 1: played last night. He could jump over the.

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Speaker 3: Net on the sand without breaking the sweat, without breaking the.

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Speaker 1: Sweat, which is not something I could do. But Tory,

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Speaker 1: what about you? How are you seeing the wide receiver group?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it all kind of boils down to

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Speaker 2: Casey Washington. To Terren's point about this is somebody who

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Speaker 2: is a third day draft pick. But we have seen

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Speaker 2: the Falcons be successful in their day three draft picks

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Speaker 2: and find these let's call them diamonds in the rough

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Speaker 2: standout guys. And I think that Casey Washington has always

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Speaker 2: been an intriguing pick since the moment that they got him,

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Speaker 2: because the moment, the reason they got him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the Casey Washington pick in the draft this year, they

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Speaker 2: That they need him to as a receiver. And I

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Speaker 2: also think that there is going to be a maturation.

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Speaker 3: Process with Casey Washington.

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Speaker 2: I think Casey Washington is somebody that you know, He's

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Speaker 2: coming from Illinois, right, Yeah, Illinois.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I was like Indiana, and then.

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Speaker 1: Illinois is so tricky for me too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Illinois, you and I Illinois fighting Aliini, the Allain.

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Speaker 2: I He's coming from there. And his production like wasn't

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Speaker 2: it was. And I also think that they, the Falcons

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Speaker 2: really just like the fact that he has this skill

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Speaker 2: him to be. And in this case, when you don't

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Speaker 2: know what the future holds for Rondall Moore, I think

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Speaker 2: that that presents Casey Washington with an opportunity to slide

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Speaker 3: Yeah, positively pissed off, positively pissed off. Also, what was

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Speaker 4: The way I think of it is is like he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I love that. That is the perfect way

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Speaker 4: He said that He's like, we're going to go back

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Speaker 4: I'm giving my flowers to Arnold de wac Ketty. I'm

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Speaker 4: so happy I can naturally say his name aka the

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Speaker 4: way I spelled is e bike tie.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: But here we are because he just I felt like

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Speaker 4: I just kept writing his number down. He had during

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Speaker 4: the first team eleven to eleven period, he had what

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Speaker 4: I would consider a stack on Tua Tonga Biloa and

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, way to go. He was running

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Speaker 4: with the ones at that too, and then later when

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Speaker 4: he was running with the twos, he did get in

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Speaker 4: the backfield and I described it as a madd and

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Speaker 4: complete pass because of the pressure Ak was putting on

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. It wasn't too it at that point, but

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Speaker 4: still you're getting back there, you're putting the quarterback in

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Speaker 4: an uncomfortable position where the ball just went awry. So

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Speaker 4: it's just it's good to see that from him. But

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Speaker 4: what stuck out also most to me was just how

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Speaker 4: many times they kept rotating. I swear I would write

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Speaker 4: the starting line down, or like who's all out there,

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Speaker 4: and then the next play would be different, and the

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Speaker 4: play after that it would be different, and just writing

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Speaker 4: numbers down at this point, like here's here's all forty

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Speaker 4: five or whatever of the defensive players they're out there,

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Speaker 4: like people are getting substantial first team reps who may

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Speaker 4: not be starters. But it goes back to what Rahie

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Speaker 4: Morris was saying about what if something does happen. Grady

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Speaker 4: Jared wasn't supposed to go down last season, but he did,

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Speaker 4: and so now instead of just calling it debt, not debt,

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Speaker 4: like finally actually yeah, he called it cloning, almost like yes,

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Speaker 4: he wants someone else to slide right.

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Speaker 3: In and no one tell the difference. I like the

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Speaker 3: term clone.

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Speaker 1: That's literally a term that he used the first time

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Speaker 1: around when he was a wide receiver. Stone is he

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Speaker 1: used to say when when number eleven, when Julio Jones

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Speaker 1: comes off the field, and there are no clones of

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Let me make that very clear. But Raheem

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Speaker 1: wanted to clone in there. I don't know where he

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Speaker 1: was going to go find one. Maybe he's got a

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Speaker 1: special cloning lab to clone Julio. But that is the mentality,

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Speaker 1: and it makes life easier on the quarterback. It makes

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Speaker 1: life easier on the guys around him when you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: even though eleven is not out there, but the guy

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Speaker 1: they brought in instead knows where he's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: can do the same things. I can put the ball

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Speaker 1: at the exact same spot and trust that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be there. So I like that. You know, on

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Speaker 1: a day when Brayln Trice was kind of like getting

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Speaker 1: his legs back under him after missing Tuesday's session with

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Speaker 1: an illness, that Arnold Eva Katie like grab the bull

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Speaker 1: by the horns and just or the dolphin by the

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Speaker 1: fin Maybe is a better metaphor to pull out here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know us that was a tortured metaphor if

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Speaker 1: I've ever heard one.

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Speaker 3: No animals were harmed in the making of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. All right, let's let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: wrap up today's show with camp Chanp. We of course

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Speaker 1: have a preseason game on Friday, so like there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of time to kind of sort through everything once

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Speaker 1: we get the action on the field. But for today, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: Who stood out Kirk Cousins for all the reasons that

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Speaker 2: I've already spoken about.

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Speaker 3: I do think he had a good practice. It was

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Speaker 3: going back and listening.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't at his press conference because it was busy

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Speaker 2: writing the news er about Rondell, so I enjoyed going

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Speaker 2: back and listening to it when I did get the

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Speaker 2: chance to listen to it. He's kind of everything that's

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Speaker 2: been advertised to this point. And even though probably again

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Speaker 2: won't see him at all during the preseason, which I'm

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Speaker 2: personally okay with.

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Speaker 3: I want to see him. I know it's a hot take.

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Speaker 4: If you're paying someone one hundred eighty million, I want

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Speaker 4: to make sure he's okay come week one.

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Speaker 3: So you got to get the rest.

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Speaker 1: Why you don't play it?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I want to get the rust off. So he's

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Speaker 4: shiny in gold in Week one. I'll rust off first.

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Speaker 2: My argument is that I haven't seen a lot of

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Speaker 2: rest from him.

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Speaker 3: Just one series. Yeah, one series, one hit.

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Speaker 1: You could convince me on one series what I stand

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Speaker 1: firmly with.

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Speaker 3: That's all I want.

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Speaker 1: Put him, Put that man a bubble wrap and ship

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Speaker 1: him to Week one. But I love Kirk Cousins. This

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Speaker 1: would be his second selection, so if we get him,

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Speaker 1: we will have gone Clark Phillips, Kirk Cousins, Clark Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins the selection today.

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Speaker 3: Which is the sole reason I flipped my vote. We

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Speaker 3: have a type.

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Speaker 1: You have a type, all right, Taren, who you got?

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Speaker 4: I'm's going to be Arnold Debac Keetty for all the

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Speaker 4: reasons I said before, And I won't elaborate because I

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Speaker 4: said enough.

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Speaker 1: We can maybe spend two minutes talking about just like

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Speaker 1: fifty nine. Well one thing, I Braylin tries Arnold Devi

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Speaker 1: Katy because you know, Lorenzo Carter's on one side and

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Speaker 1: James Smith Williams like those those two are also getting

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Speaker 1: the first team.

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Speaker 2: Looks like Graylan Trice was back out there, and he

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Speaker 2: looks sharp as camp.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the conversation this offseason has been where's

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Speaker 1: the Falcons pass rush going to come from? It seems

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Speaker 1: like with each passing day we're getting like maybe one

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Speaker 1: more piece of that puzzle kind of figured out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's what's difficult is every other position

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Speaker 4: I think has one or two options or they have

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Speaker 4: their options locked in. So now when it comes to

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Speaker 4: this group, it's like, what.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Why don't we have a concretely But in reality, this

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Speaker 4: is called competition. This is where it gets sorted out.

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Speaker 1: And I also I think the some of the hole

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Speaker 1: is going to be greater than the individual parts for

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Speaker 1: this front seven, So that's a great pick. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go with Kyle Pitts, who we really haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about it's on so far, but just continues to look solid,

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Speaker 1: like he's just looking like the player I think we

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Speaker 1: all expected him to be coming out of college. There

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Speaker 1: are many reasons why last year and the year before

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Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily look like that player, but this offense

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Speaker 1: seems to suit him. I think he's got a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who he can look to and respect and kind of

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Speaker 1: be like when you say something, I am listening, right,

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Speaker 1: Because the Falcons brought in all these young skill players,

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Speaker 1: expecting them to almost be the leaders of the team,

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Speaker 1: and that's really really hard to do when you come

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Speaker 1: into the NFL and you don't maybe have that established quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And he had Matt Ryan in year one. I would

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Speaker 1: have loved for him to have Matt Ryan for his

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Speaker 1: first three years, and so I'm really excited to see

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Speaker 1: what he and more specifically, what Kirk Cousins is going

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Speaker 1: to unlock with Kyle Pitts now that he looks totally

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Speaker 1: healthy and like the athlete that we were all promised.

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Speaker 1: So that's my pick for Kyle Pitts. I kind of

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Speaker 1: like Ronald have a Katie though.

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Speaker 3: I this is finally where I went a tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: The defense to me, has been the story of joint

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Speaker 1: practices so far. And even though Kirk is like the reason,

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Speaker 1: I think the offense kind of took a step back,

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Speaker 1: I like, I like everyone took a step back in

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Speaker 1: the right direction, back to the future. I don't know, Tori,

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Speaker 1: you got you got any real qualms with uh?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think because of the point that you

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Speaker 2: made that we've been talking a lot about Braylan Trice

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Speaker 2: and there is something to be said about Braylen Trice.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to Jacquesquise Smith, who is the

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Speaker 2: Falcons outside linebackers coach, talking to him a lot about Braylan,

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Speaker 2: and he made the comment that he's like from a

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Speaker 2: cognitive standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Why does it come from from a mental standpoint?

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Speaker 2: He said that he is ahead of schedule in terms

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Speaker 2: of where he would think a rookie would be at

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Speaker 2: this point in time, which is allowing him more opportunities

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Speaker 2: more Actually, who.

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Speaker 4: Said, he's like naturally mentally really good at this at

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Speaker 4: the past rush and everything.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that Braylan Trice has had to take

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Speaker 2: this step back because he's not been feeling well. Over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days, we got to see more

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Speaker 2: of Arnold Abakattie, and I do agree that he made

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Speaker 2: the most of his opportunities, and I think this just

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Speaker 2: is going to be something to monitor and to watch.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if how much we'll see of either

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Speaker 2: of them during this game on Friday. I imagine we

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Speaker 2: will see them if Braylen Trice is healthy and feeling good.

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Speaker 3: But I'm okay with that. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: to push it. I'm fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with Arnold Advocati being our camp champ for

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: You are so disappointing you just rolled right over to

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Speaker 1: come on.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Duke's up.

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Speaker 1: Put on the gloves. Let's let's go to the matt.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 2: Really want me to talk about Kirk Cousins, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like I've been talking about him NonStop for the

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Speaker 2: last thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: AKA takes a W, t W takes a W.

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Speaker 1: There we go. I love it. Zelbie's all around. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the defense has been the story and on

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Speaker 1: day two Ak was the story. So congratulations. He is

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Speaker 1: our camp champ for the first time in training camp.

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Speaker 1: We still only have one repeat and that is Clark Phillips,

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Speaker 1: so still a little bit of ways to go, but

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Speaker 1: we're starting to get to the final stretch. It will

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So that will do it

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Speaker 1: for today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle. We've of course

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Speaker 1: have Friday's preseason game to look forward to against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how they approach this,

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Speaker 1: but we will be here to recapital Atlanta Falcons dot

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Speaker 1: Com check out all the great coverage that both Karen

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Speaker 1: and Tory have been providing and of course please like

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Speaker 1: our YouTube channel. A lot of great videos going up there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, for Tory, mcaleney and Taron Walk, I'm Will McFadden.

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Speaker 1: We will see you guys Friday