1
00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,039
Speaker 1: Welcome in to the j P. Shadrick Podcast. Today is Tuesday,

2
00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,280
Speaker 1: April and today we'll have a special edition of pre

3
00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,200
Speaker 1: Draft Jags Media round Table Discussion featuring as Carline of

4
00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,639
Speaker 1: tinton XCEL, Mike Doroco of ESPN, and Mark Long of

5
00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,079
Speaker 1: the Associated Press. But first to look ahead of the

6
00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280
Speaker 1: week of draft coverage coming up Wednesday Jaguars dot Com

7
00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Live at one o'clock. Brian Sexton will be in Dallas

8
00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,479
Speaker 1: with a preview of the coming days before the draft.

9
00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,199
Speaker 1: Thursday is the big day. Of course, we'll have Jaguars

10
00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,239
Speaker 1: Thursday Radio from six to seven at daily Splace for

11
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,840
Speaker 1: uniform launch and draft party. Seven o'clock on Action News

12
00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,600
Speaker 1: Jack's Television, that's the Jaguars Draft Show, one hour preview

13
00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,280
Speaker 1: of the draft including interviews with Tom Coughlin and a

14
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,000
Speaker 1: live visit with g M. Dave Caldwell just outside the

15
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,560
Speaker 1: draft room. Starting at nine o'clock, It's the Jaguars Radio

16
00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,320
Speaker 1: Draft Special on Tinta XL and the guys will go

17
00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,880
Speaker 1: live from Daily He's plays through the Jaguars selection in

18
00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,200
Speaker 1: the first round. Our coverage on Jaguars dot Com will

19
00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,440
Speaker 1: begin immediately after the Jags selection in that first round

20
00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,000
Speaker 1: and we'll bring immediate reaction, plus live press conferences and

21
00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,600
Speaker 1: much more Thursday night, after the Jaguars make the pick.

22
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,760
Speaker 1: Now to who that pick might be, We've got a

23
00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,679
Speaker 1: special trio from the Jaguars Beat to break it all down.

24
00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 1: Mark Long, Associated Press, let's start over market, Mike the Rocco,

25
00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,760
Speaker 1: ESPN and Hayes Carline of ten Tin XL. What's up, guys? Hey,

26
00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,959
Speaker 1: what's up? Doing great? How are you oh, you know,

27
00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,039
Speaker 1: ready for the draft? Ready or not? Here it is, guys,

28
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000
Speaker 1: rock here, it is the draft finally, Thank god? You're

29
00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,320
Speaker 1: ready for this? Be over? No, I just want the

30
00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,679
Speaker 1: draft to be here. I mean, I'm excited about it.

31
00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,440
Speaker 1: It's all this pre draft stuff kind of gets old

32
00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000
Speaker 1: around this time. Now. We've spend the last month breaking

33
00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,040
Speaker 1: down prospects, and they could have had the draft like

34
00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,800
Speaker 1: a month ago and been fine, could have had it

35
00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,520
Speaker 1: in January. January No, No, but yeah, I mean stretch

36
00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,720
Speaker 1: it out, stretch it out. Leaku's gotta stretch it out.

37
00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's finally here, and that's exciting

38
00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,240
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. We had the pre draft media luncheon

39
00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,680
Speaker 1: last week on Friday, where the football Brass talk with

40
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,200
Speaker 1: the media before the draft, and I don't know how

41
00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,040
Speaker 1: much we learned in that, And that's kind of an

42
00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,480
Speaker 1: annual tradition. They don't really give up a lot in

43
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,600
Speaker 1: this thing, right Mark, I mean, but it's good to

44
00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,800
Speaker 1: kind of hear some final thoughts before the direct. Can

45
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,079
Speaker 1: you imagine if they actually did give up something like, Hey,

46
00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,360
Speaker 1: this is a guy we like. These are the top

47
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,639
Speaker 1: three or four guys we like, and uh, you're we're

48
00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,960
Speaker 1: hoping when this guy falls, that would be pretty pretty special,

49
00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,760
Speaker 1: but that's never gonna happen. And uh, you gotta read.

50
00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,440
Speaker 1: This is an unbelievable test for writers, broadcasters, TV people

51
00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760
Speaker 1: um to read between the lines, because I do think

52
00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,639
Speaker 1: I think it's human nature to be a little to

53
00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,880
Speaker 1: have some tells. Anybody who you know plays poker, you

54
00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,760
Speaker 1: have some tells, and I think these guys have some tells.

55
00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,000
Speaker 1: And I think you just gotta be able to read

56
00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,240
Speaker 1: between the lines and and put some pieces together and

57
00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,560
Speaker 1: figure out, uh, who they like and who they're going

58
00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,359
Speaker 1: to draft. Got in a poker reference on the top

59
00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,160
Speaker 1: of everything. What do you think of that? Hayes? Because

60
00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,639
Speaker 1: you do as he said, you have to read read

61
00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,520
Speaker 1: between the lines with these guys because they're not gonna

62
00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,079
Speaker 1: come out and tell you, especially a guy like Tom

63
00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,440
Speaker 1: cough right. I do get a sense that there is

64
00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,960
Speaker 1: more confidence. There's a a looseness uh this year than

65
00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 1: there was last year when they were sort of feeling

66
00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800
Speaker 1: each other out a little bit um. So I do

67
00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,760
Speaker 1: think to Mark's point, that that can lead to a

68
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,639
Speaker 1: little bit more uh of information. But when you look

69
00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,240
Speaker 1: at what they've been able to do in the last

70
00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320
Speaker 1: two drafts with obviously the jail and draft Miles Jack

71
00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Nick and then last year hitting on for net and

72
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, I mean, this is a front office that

73
00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 1: should be walking around with their heads held high and

74
00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,560
Speaker 1: with a lot of confidence. And I think you kind

75
00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,200
Speaker 1: of saw some of that today. And now they've got

76
00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a challenge because if they

77
00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 1: don't move up, they're gonna watch twenty eight guys go

78
00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,280
Speaker 1: off the board before they're on the clock. Do you know,

79
00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,320
Speaker 1: to Hayes's point here, next year it was pretty quick.

80
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean Tom Coffin comes in in January, Doug Maron's

81
00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,720
Speaker 1: hired as the head coach. Dy've called Will's here. They

82
00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,480
Speaker 1: got to figure this thing out, and as you said, heyes,

83
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean the draft in April, Um, who's doing what,

84
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,320
Speaker 1: who's communicating with who? And and Tom Coffin will say, hey,

85
00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,880
Speaker 1: we just got in the room and got to work.

86
00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,839
Speaker 1: But it is a little clearer now what the roles

87
00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,920
Speaker 1: are and how these guys work together. It seems like, yeah,

88
00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,359
Speaker 1: and you can count me among the people that wondered

89
00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 1: last year if that whole Maron Coughlin called well triumvirate

90
00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,840
Speaker 1: would work not only before the draft but during the season,

91
00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, would it blow up in their face? Would

92
00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 1: it be a problem. And you know, to all of

93
00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,560
Speaker 1: their credit, they made it work. And obviously having success

94
00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,120
Speaker 1: on the field helps with that. But I think this year,

95
00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,640
Speaker 1: and I think Tom said it on Friday too, that

96
00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of know what we're doing in

97
00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,520
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the process went pretty smooth for

98
00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,520
Speaker 1: us last year, which to me sounded like a little

99
00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise for me. Um, you know, just

100
00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,880
Speaker 1: because they were thrown in like you said, But I

101
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,520
Speaker 1: mean they've got they've got this downpat to nail what

102
00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,200
Speaker 1: they nailed last year in the draft, Like those guys said, Um,

103
00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,640
Speaker 1: with that little time together to kind of figure out things,

104
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,000
Speaker 1: I think it was pretty impressive. So, you know, like

105
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,800
Speaker 1: Hey said, you gotta wonder, you know, what what they

106
00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,279
Speaker 1: can do with now full year, knowing what they want,

107
00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,679
Speaker 1: knowing what the team's gonna look like. If there hasn't

108
00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,080
Speaker 1: been a lot of changeover that, that certainly helps helps.

109
00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Dave and his entire front office

110
00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,039
Speaker 1: remained intact. Tom came in, and I don't think Tom

111
00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 1: came in and started throwing deck chairs off the Titanic.

112
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think Tom came in and and saw it.

113
00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,400
Speaker 1: And then the big thing with Tom is he set

114
00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,120
Speaker 1: the vision for what they who they are and what

115
00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,120
Speaker 1: they're want to be, and that's gonna be run the ball,

116
00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,520
Speaker 1: play great defense. And they drafted to that, and they

117
00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,320
Speaker 1: attacked free agency twice to that, and I would expect

118
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800
Speaker 1: them to go into this draft with that exact same

119
00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 1: mentality and not wavering at all. So it's a vital

120
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,200
Speaker 1: draft though, because there's not much more free agency they

121
00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 1: can go after in the next year. So because there's

122
00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of money left over after this and

123
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,720
Speaker 1: this is a new world, it's been building up to

124
00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,960
Speaker 1: this window right now to be able to spend that

125
00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,800
Speaker 1: money the last couple of years you gotta make that

126
00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,679
Speaker 1: happen on the field and in the draft. On the field.

127
00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,880
Speaker 1: Moving ahead here, well, this is a huge year because

128
00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,720
Speaker 1: this is a year where they legitimately can win the

129
00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or at least get there. We don't know

130
00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,880
Speaker 1: what call New England. I'm not calling it. I'm calling it.

131
00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm not calling it yet. I wonder and see what Yeah,

132
00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,279
Speaker 1: and they might be. I mean, I want to see

133
00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,960
Speaker 1: what New England does. But they've had a lot of

134
00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640
Speaker 1: roster turnover already. Um, they are well armed in the draft,

135
00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,280
Speaker 1: so we'll see. They still have Tom Brady. Um. But

136
00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,840
Speaker 1: you look at the rest of the a f C,

137
00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,840
Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars on paper stack up, you

138
00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,120
Speaker 1: know more than you know, well against everybody else that

139
00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800
Speaker 1: you would throw out there. The NFC is loaded. Um,

140
00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars could be the fifth or sixth best team

141
00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,520
Speaker 1: in the NFC, but in the a f C where

142
00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040
Speaker 1: there is some in balance. Right now, Uh, if the

143
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,320
Speaker 1: Patriots ever do fall off, sorry Droco, but if they

144
00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:02,039
Speaker 1: ever do, yeah, and it gets really uh, it gets

145
00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,800
Speaker 1: really interesting for for this team. So uh it is

146
00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's time to go win it. And uh

147
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,320
Speaker 1: and when it now they have the tools to do it.

148
00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,800
Speaker 1: And to your point about the money, I mean, yes,

149
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,040
Speaker 1: they're a little up against the cap, but they can

150
00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,320
Speaker 1: easily shed forty million next year. Uh. And again it

151
00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,600
Speaker 1: will depend on how some of these guys play, but

152
00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,200
Speaker 1: they are still in a in a position where they

153
00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,040
Speaker 1: can release some players with very little to know dead

154
00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 1: money and really still be aggressive if that's what they

155
00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,640
Speaker 1: chose to do overall pick. It's a strange place, at

156
00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,920
Speaker 1: least in recent history for the Jags, for like the

157
00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,600
Speaker 1: first two and a half hours of that draft were

158
00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,560
Speaker 1: used to be done by like depressed foodway. I'm sure

159
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,640
Speaker 1: we'll think of something make fun of Gene, just kidding,

160
00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,640
Speaker 1: just kidding. Uh So well, ten straight years of a

161
00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,160
Speaker 1: top ten pick for this franchise and now it's down

162
00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,560
Speaker 1: to twenty nine. Like the good old days and the

163
00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,560
Speaker 1: mid to late nineties, when you're drafting late, it's a

164
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,800
Speaker 1: different perspective. As Dave Caldwell said Friday, I mean, you

165
00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320
Speaker 1: can take ten to fifteen guys and just take them

166
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 1: off your list because they're not going to be there

167
00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840
Speaker 1: at twenty nine. So at that point you get to

168
00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,160
Speaker 1: who's available and what you're kind of needs are who's

169
00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,720
Speaker 1: the best available guy, This could this could be anybody.

170
00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 1: Or is that is that the field amongst you guys,

171
00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 1: is it is there a position that you feel like

172
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,120
Speaker 1: no matter what they might lean toward, or is it

173
00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of a crapshoot? Still, well, I think it's a

174
00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400
Speaker 1: handful of positions and uh that they're gonna because I

175
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,280
Speaker 1: think this is who they are. They're They're not gonna

176
00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,800
Speaker 1: go get a quarterback at twenty nine. They're not gonna

177
00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,079
Speaker 1: go get a flashy wide receiver at twenty nine. You

178
00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's quarterback I have. I'd be stunted as

179
00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,160
Speaker 1: I'd be stunted as a receiver here. I think they're

180
00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,959
Speaker 1: they are. They have set this foundation. They are who

181
00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,439
Speaker 1: they are. They embrace who they are across the board.

182
00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 1: They created uniforms to match who they are on the field.

183
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's the most I mean, it's it's like

184
00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,920
Speaker 1: the most obvious sign of this is who we are

185
00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,720
Speaker 1: and we're gonna even show it in what we put

186
00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,360
Speaker 1: on our helmet. Uh. And so to me, that says

187
00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,920
Speaker 1: you draft either an offensive lineman, uh, maybe a defensive

188
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,080
Speaker 1: player in the front seven, I would think, or or

189
00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,840
Speaker 1: a tight end it's like an offensive lineman, and to me,

190
00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,360
Speaker 1: anything outside of that, to me, would be an absolute stunner.

191
00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760
Speaker 1: If it was a defensive back, a quarterback, ride receiver,

192
00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,040
Speaker 1: or even a running back, I don't know if i'd

193
00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,200
Speaker 1: go stunner, but I mean I do agree with him

194
00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 1: that that's probably the area that they're leaning. And to me,

195
00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,280
Speaker 1: one of the things that stood out at the pre

196
00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,040
Speaker 1: draft lunch and on Friday was how lively Coughlin was

197
00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,679
Speaker 1: when talking about the tight ends UH in the little

198
00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,040
Speaker 1: group setting that we were we had after the main

199
00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,920
Speaker 1: press conference. UM that kind of stuck with me. Now,

200
00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,280
Speaker 1: obviously that doesn't mean they're taking a tight end, but certainly, um,

201
00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440
Speaker 1: as Mark talked about earlier, you kind of look and

202
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,360
Speaker 1: try and read between the lines. But I agree with

203
00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,840
Speaker 1: the I mean, I think it's going to be an

204
00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,079
Speaker 1: offensive lineman tight end, I think, or my one too,

205
00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,880
Speaker 1: And then you know who knows after that. Now, it

206
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,359
Speaker 1: also obviously depends on if there's somebody that falls surprisingly

207
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,000
Speaker 1: um or if you know, there's a team that wants

208
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,719
Speaker 1: to get back into the first round, that obviously could

209
00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,800
Speaker 1: play a role in it as well. But but even then,

210
00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,600
Speaker 1: and if they're picking at the top of the second rod.

211
00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,760
Speaker 1: I see him probably still sticking with those two positions.

212
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,000
Speaker 1: There's a theme to this entire offseason, and there is

213
00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,800
Speaker 1: for all thirty two teams, but for this team, the

214
00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 1: theme is get back to the a f C championship game,

215
00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,040
Speaker 1: build a ten point lead in the fourth quarter and

216
00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,360
Speaker 1: finish it this time. Get the players that can finish

217
00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,000
Speaker 1: the game this time, and get to the Super Bowl.

218
00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,520
Speaker 1: Norwell does that. Uh. He absolutely is everything you'd want

219
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,000
Speaker 1: it left guard. That's why I do think it will

220
00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,240
Speaker 1: be another interior position on the right side. I again,

221
00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,560
Speaker 1: it depends on who's there. But if it's you know,

222
00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,440
Speaker 1: McGlinchey at an utter dame the tackle, if it's when

223
00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,079
Speaker 1: the guard out of Georgia, Hernandez the guard out of Georgia,

224
00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,240
Speaker 1: I think one of those three will be there. Uh.

225
00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,560
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna give it a hard look.

226
00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,080
Speaker 1: I do not see it being a perimeter player. This

227
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,880
Speaker 1: is not an administration that that really seems to be

228
00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,360
Speaker 1: overly uh interested in making the perimeter it's priority, at

229
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,680
Speaker 1: least on offense. They did it on defense with boy

230
00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,680
Speaker 1: A and Jalen. But I think when you look at

231
00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,439
Speaker 1: what this team needs, they have a chance. If they

232
00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,160
Speaker 1: hit on the twenty nine pick on an offensive lineman,

233
00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,560
Speaker 1: they have a chance to have the best in the

234
00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,960
Speaker 1: best offensive line in the NFL. With what Cam Robinson

235
00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,240
Speaker 1: was able to do as a rookie with Brandon Linder

236
00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400
Speaker 1: at center, and what Norwell has been able to do.

237
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,240
Speaker 1: If he has a smooth transition to Jacksonville, this offensive

238
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,960
Speaker 1: line could be stunning lee good next year. And I

239
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,560
Speaker 1: don't think Tom Coughlin and Dave called Well and Doug

240
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,199
Speaker 1: Morone are going to be able to resist that temptation

241
00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,240
Speaker 1: to try and make that happen. As they said in

242
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,440
Speaker 1: the introduction last year, Tom Coughlin, football was designed to

243
00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,119
Speaker 1: be played a certain way, and that's in the trenches, toughness,

244
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,960
Speaker 1: grit and all that stuff. Um so offensive and defensive

245
00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,959
Speaker 1: lines that's where that starts in. So the defensive line

246
00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,280
Speaker 1: is already arguably the best to the National Football League

247
00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,440
Speaker 1: and the old line could be well on its way.

248
00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,640
Speaker 1: So final thoughts here, Mark Long, Mike de Rocco, Hays

249
00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,040
Speaker 1: Carlin Um, who isn't I'm putting on the spot right now?

250
00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,679
Speaker 1: The board everybody slides down to twenty nine and is

251
00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,080
Speaker 1: available in a key world, which is not, you know,

252
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,360
Speaker 1: which is make believe in a world that is a

253
00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,040
Speaker 1: perfect world. I guess what I'm trying to say. Who

254
00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,040
Speaker 1: the Jaguars take a twenty nine. I'll go Mike McGlinchey.

255
00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that he'll be there, but I think,

256
00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,959
Speaker 1: perfect world, Mike McGlinchey gets to twenty nine and can

257
00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,400
Speaker 1: challenge Parnell in camp, and if he can't beat out

258
00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,600
Speaker 1: Parnell could kick inside and overtake A. J. Cann at

259
00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,679
Speaker 1: right guard, the offensive lineman from Notre Dame. Yes, And

260
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,640
Speaker 1: I actually would have would have said the same guy,

261
00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,800
Speaker 1: but in the interest of debate here, I will go

262
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, tight end out of South Carolina. I just

263
00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,920
Speaker 1: think the guy is one of the rare tight ends

264
00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,080
Speaker 1: in this draft and in the last five years. Who

265
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400
Speaker 1: can who can come in and and do both, who

266
00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,720
Speaker 1: can block inline block and get down the field and

267
00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,800
Speaker 1: make some plays. And they talked about that at at

268
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,719
Speaker 1: assum on Friday that finding a tight end who can

269
00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,920
Speaker 1: do both is absolutely critical and is very, very difficult

270
00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,160
Speaker 1: in today's name. And he has some life experience. He's

271
00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 1: a little older, played some baseball, had some issues there

272
00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,320
Speaker 1: and has worked his way back local guy as well,

273
00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,800
Speaker 1: Mike Droco. I think they're god awful. Perfect scenario would

274
00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,400
Speaker 1: be Quentin Nelson dropping the twenty nine. Never gonna happen, obviously, Um,

275
00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,439
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm I'm with these guys. I'll throw

276
00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,240
Speaker 1: out another name that's potential because I you know, I

277
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,400
Speaker 1: think McGlinchey is probably gonna be gone. Uh Connor Williams.

278
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,920
Speaker 1: Uh he can play both tackle, guard, so I mean

279
00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,959
Speaker 1: that would help them. Uh you can slide him in

280
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,760
Speaker 1: at right guard and uh you know, if he doesn't,

281
00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, mind playing there for a year and then

282
00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,440
Speaker 1: maybe slide him out the right tackle the year after

283
00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,360
Speaker 1: when Jeremy Parnell is done. Um, so I think we're

284
00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,680
Speaker 1: all pretty much in the ballpark. It's you know, position wise,

285
00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,560
Speaker 1: So I think it's not. I don't think it's going

286
00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,760
Speaker 1: to be a surprise. You know, we talked about earlier.

287
00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,640
Speaker 1: I think this is this is where they're going. I'm

288
00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna come out of left field. I was just gonna

289
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,920
Speaker 1: say it's gonna surprise people because if you look at

290
00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,120
Speaker 1: all the mock drafts out outside and cornerbacks, and that's

291
00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,120
Speaker 1: not who they are. But true, true, Um, you mentioned

292
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,040
Speaker 1: the front seven on defense could be a possibility as well,

293
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,520
Speaker 1: because a lot of those guys could be gone in theory,

294
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,480
Speaker 1: Hurst could be gone. You guys could be gone. Uh

295
00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,800
Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans, Alabama linebacker. Oh he went with the Alabama

296
00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:28,280
Speaker 1: shocking draft board up here. Then I was like, I'm stunned.

297
00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,640
Speaker 1: So that's possible. Um, something to think about as well.

298
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,720
Speaker 1: We'll look forward. What kind of covers you guys have

299
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,040
Speaker 1: all weeks? We normal radio stuff? You got writing? What

300
00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,640
Speaker 1: do you get going on? We will have normal radio stuff.

301
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll have stories on tin tin XL dot

302
00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,560
Speaker 1: com as well as well as us some draft videos

303
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,880
Speaker 1: on the website, so hopefully you guys will enjoy draft

304
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 1: videos draft videos. I've got to defend Dan because all

305
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560
Speaker 1: this guy does is ripped my poor coach from Gainesville.

306
00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,400
Speaker 1: I loved d you ripped him. I ripped him for

307
00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:09,960
Speaker 1: bringing out friend friends. He might he might. When I

308
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 1: was there at the game, I didn't like it. You

309
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,120
Speaker 1: are you doing at a spring? Oh? Yeah? You what

310
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480
Speaker 1: do you got this week? Just writing some stories? I

311
00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200
Speaker 1: got Actually, yeah, I got, well, I got a little bit.

312
00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write up a jag set up for the

313
00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,240
Speaker 1: for the draft, and I gotta. I gott actually pretty

314
00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,920
Speaker 1: good baseball team over in games. So I'm doing a

315
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,600
Speaker 1: baseball story next week, and I'm doing a feature on

316
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,040
Speaker 1: Tavin Bryan, who will be drafted based on potential and

317
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,040
Speaker 1: not production. You're spread too thin, Um, Mike Rocko, you

318
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440
Speaker 1: got this one. You know what, I'm taking a look

319
00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,520
Speaker 1: at all these mock drafts and I'm gonna sit there

320
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,040
Speaker 1: and try and find a consensus about what guys think

321
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160
Speaker 1: and then tell you why it's right and wrong. Uh.

322
00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, I think that's probably the thing I'm looking

323
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680
Speaker 1: forward to the most. Uh. And then you know, feature

324
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,800
Speaker 1: on you know what they should do tight ends? I

325
00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,880
Speaker 1: mean offensive line? What's the best um scenario for that?

326
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,680
Speaker 1: And um, you know I'm actually up in Bristol all

327
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,400
Speaker 1: week for ESPN NFL meetings. So yeah, it's a lot

328
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,520
Speaker 1: of fun. Our mock draft on Tuesday night, Live mock

329
00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 1: Draft on Tuesday Night, and then on Wednesday they talk

330
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,240
Speaker 1: about whether or not they should continue to cover the days. Wow.

331
00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,400
Speaker 1: On that note, we will call this podcast Mike de Rocko, ESPN.

332
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,920
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Mark Long the Associated Press and

333
00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 1: he's Carline Attenta. Next, and finally, a big congrats for

334
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,600
Speaker 1: the newest members of the Roar of the Jaguars Cheerleaders.

335
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,160
Speaker 1: Two weekends ago, nearly two hundred competitors were paired down

336
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,479
Speaker 1: to a final forty nine after the first round of auditions.

337
00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,080
Speaker 1: This path Saturday, those finalists went through two more rounds

338
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,200
Speaker 1: of auditions, including dancing basics in the early sessions and

339
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,960
Speaker 1: a solo dance performance later in the day. The new

340
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,400
Speaker 1: team found out over a phone message late Saturday afternoon,

341
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 1: and with twenty three veterans back for there are eleven

342
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,640
Speaker 1: new members of the Roar. You'll be able to see

343
00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,560
Speaker 1: many of the new team performed for the first time

344
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,600
Speaker 1: Thursday night at that uniform launch and draft party at

345
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,440
Speaker 1: Daily's Place. Register for free tickets Jaguars dot Com Slash

346
00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,480
Speaker 1: Draft Party eight team thanks to Jack's manager Radio Joe

347
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 1: Fortunato and We'll catch you next time on the j P.

348
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 1: Shadrick Podcast