1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hey, ba fan, Mandy here or Mandra you can call 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: me Mandra and that's fine. I have a simple request 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: for you, guys. We get so many questions on how 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: you can support the show, and there's really a very 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: very simple thing that we need you guys to do. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Open up this app, open up wherever you're listening to 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: this podcast right now, and subscribe if you have the ability, 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: especially those of you who are on iTunes. We're really 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: making a push to get the show more visible. 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It is basically 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: how we tell the Internet that our podcast is worth 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: promoting and featuring and getting charted, and we deserve to 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: be at the top of the charts, just like any 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: other show out there. Can't do it without your support, 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: So thank you very very much. Subscribe, like and review 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: the show, and we thank you so much. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, oh we are back. We are black 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: extra black. You're gonna see why in a minute. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: Back in blacker than ever. 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and we're broad Ambition. Hey Manja, are you excited 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: about today's show? Like I'm excited about today's show? 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you get a couple of 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: y chromosomes in the mix, you know that aren't related 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: to you, you might like, put a little extra, something extra, 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: put a little messcar on, get all excited. Yes, I'm 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: excited because I feel like these guys from Earn Your Leisure, 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: where the hell did they even come from? I know 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: it was like we were out here, you know, doing 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Brown Ambition, doing our thing, and then all of a sudden, 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: it's like wait, or eyl is everywhere everywhere and they 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: have blown up and it's been I almost thought, where 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: have I been? These guys must have been around for years, 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: but no, they've only been around for a couple of years. 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Eyl is everywhere and Tiffany, they're on the show today. 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: You're going to talk about some investing. We're going to 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: talk about some very important questions such as which of 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: these guys is single. 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: Because you guys asked, don't act like you wasn't in 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: my DMS. Some of you, I'm not going to name names. 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: We're in my DMS asking. 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: So it's been very lonely, lonely in this virtual world 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. So we'll try and help 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: me all out. But how is book launch week going? Wait? 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: This is book? This is two week two week one? Whatever? 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Well this is like almost like basically the completion of 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: the first week. 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: Yes, you're still standing and we are sitting you look 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: for listen for having just launched an international bestseller. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm just like, it's a little bit of makeup. I'm 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: not gonna lie no, but honestly, I have to say 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: I feel really good because and I'll be able to 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: share because I think it's you know, aside from like 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: you know, this is not even book promotion, but it 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: would be nice maybe if we had a show to 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: talk about, like what does it look like? So I 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: like write a book and put one out because there's 64 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: so many things that we learn and I have to 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: say my I'd asked my agent, Heather, you know, to 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: give me some numbers, like what is good as far 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: as first week, what is great and what is unicorn? 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: And Heather doubled what unicorn was because I mented it 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: today to Penguin. I was like, okay, so I hear 70 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: these are our numbers. This is really great. Heather told 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: me that's unicorn, that that good is five thousand, greatest, 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: ten and twenty is unicorn. She's like, no, ten is unicorn. 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: Hardly anybody does that in the first week. I'm like yeah, 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: but but she's like, yeah, Heather motivated you. And we've 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: done more than that. And it's been and I didn't 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: have a concept what's the lot? And all of my 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: friends in the book world are like, uh, Tiffany, because 78 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that doesn't seem like that much considering 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: how side the audience are like, no, people don't buy 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: books like they used to, and money books especially, they're 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: not exactly you know, people would like to beat fantasy 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: and you know, honestly, romance novels are still killing it 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: children's books, but money books not so much. So we've 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: unicorned out and my team is amaze balls. And I 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: will know very soon actually today when this podcast comes out, 86 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I know by the end of the day whether or 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: not I've hit specific lists that I was six, I 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: don't want to drink you. 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Know what list or no list? It is. So I 90 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: got my book by the way, finally, I don't know 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: why it took forever. I was like Amazon, where are you? 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: But what there was and I've seen it, like I'm 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: looking at the cover right now behind you that beautiful 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, Michael's portrait at your book cover. But there 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: was something when I held it and I just felt 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: that and this is so good. This is like I 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know, Tiff, I don't know. I think when you 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: told me you were writing a book, I didn't really appreciate. 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean at the time I was like, of course 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you are, you've done. You're like, yeah, it's like a book, 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: but there's something about whole I don't know, it just 102 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: really hit me. I'm just so I'm just gushing. I'm 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: so happy. 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: No same. I think it's like when you do a thing, 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: it's like I knew that you were gonna because where 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: you work now was like my dream bank. Like when 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: they first opened, I was like, oh, it's like the 108 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: bloodgates opened, like you know, a sizeable bank that actually 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: like it was good to people and had a great 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: customer service, like it was my dream bank and now 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: here you are with a C in front of your 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: your title. It's like, wait, what a minute ago it 113 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: was Hi, my name is Mandy, would you up? I 114 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 2: would love if I could interview you for business. Inside, 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know who she is, but 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: it's a theo to be here with you. Honestly, it's 117 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: it is. I just love to see our growth together, you. 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, yeah, it's a privilege, it is it. 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: There's just it just feels like I don't know my 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: experience seeing you grow and seeing you always talk about 121 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the acorns? Is that the kind of tree that you plant? 122 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, you grow whatever analogy 123 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: that was that Proverbs? You know, I feel like I 124 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: was I got to see the acorn planted and how 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: you tended to it, and I'm gonna I don't My 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: gardening knowledge is not that. But you like watered it 127 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: and you gave it fertilized. 128 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: Let the sunshine sign. But yeah, yes, yeah, podcast. Remember 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: I told you, like, I'm just so used to because 130 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: I've known you for so many years now, and we 131 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: get out here, we chit chat, and it didn't hit 132 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: me just how big our reach was until I was 133 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: in Chicago a year was it two years ago? Two 134 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: years ago for Lovey's wedding, and it come downstairs my 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: African garb ready to go, and someone said and I 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: was like yeah, and he he meanwhile said abission. I 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: was like, wait what He was like, I don't he 138 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: didn't know me from any other place. He was like 139 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: from bran ambishon is manny with you? And it like 140 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: it was like the first time that I realized, yo, 141 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: what we've built this thing? You know that like and 142 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: then after that, everywhere I was going, like I went 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: to I was at home depot buying plants and so 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, tifp me from b 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: bish Tiff. So I know you don't like hugs, but 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: I gotta give you one and give one to Mantua. 147 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: And I was just like yeah, because we like, I 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: feel like I feel so low key about what we do. 149 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: But the number of lives that we've touched, we have 150 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: been consistent for for over five years, and Dawn, it's 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: not easy for a podcast to. 152 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Do, no, but it never I mean there's obviously some 153 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: days it felt like work. Yeah, but from like ninety 154 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: five percent of the time. It's a joy. I don't know, 155 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's a joy. So and I and I 156 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: am just I am just dancing in the sunshine, all 157 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: this glitter spark around you. I'm just at the party. 158 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm just here whatever. So, but congrats on all the success. 159 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Get It with Money dot Com, y'all. It's not too late. 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: It's not too late to buy your book. And are 161 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: you doing I mean where you're I feel like you're 162 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: everywhere and that you're on the Today Show today or 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: you were if people are listening to the show now. 164 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: But what are you doing a like a live event tour? 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Where are people gonna like? Where is this going? 166 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: Well? I do have so I did like a like 167 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: a I guess like we did a virtual like launch 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: like the day of on the thirtieth. I'm not gonna say, 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: I know, Lovey did like you know, six events. I 170 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: was like, the way my I want to stay married 171 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: is set up, plus I want to sleep, So not that. 172 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: But what we are going to do is we're doing 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: a virtual summit. So it's gg WM Virtualsummit dot Com 174 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: for Get Go with Money. So we're doing a virtual 175 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: summit with. 176 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Them have all the domains. 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: Yes, with about I think it's six of them six 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: five oh five of the of the women that I 179 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: that I interview as for their expertise in the book 180 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: are are going to be speakers at the summit. So 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: that will be really awesome if you want to join 182 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: us GGWM Virtual Summit dot com. I don't know, like 183 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm actually taking six weeks off. I can't wait. 184 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm excited for you. I'm also excited 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: for BA because you're gonna got some special guest co hosts. 186 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Because Sis needs to bring. If y'all know me, I 187 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: have not taken a true, true break in so long. 188 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: So this is as a result of doctor green shout 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: out to her. She's like, I think I want you 190 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: to take a month. I was like, oh, I can't 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: do a month. She said, oh, you're right, six weeks. 192 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: I was like, wait what because she was like, no. 193 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: No, you have to put on your French. They do 194 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: it all the time. 195 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: I know. But plus two wild good behavior. You know 196 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: what I told Doctor Greeny the other day, like, I 197 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: remember when we had our rich journey on what. 198 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Their name Christina and Aman, Yes, and. 199 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: Remember the level of joy they were emoting, we were like, 200 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: what are you guys on? 201 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I had the same reactions as we 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: talk later on the show with Ernier Leisure and their 203 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: friend Ian, who was like, I want to hang out 204 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: with y'all because I just want to be just some 205 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: of that to rub off on me. So yeah. 206 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: So but I told doctor Green when I first started 207 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: working with her that I wanted that whatever they were on, 208 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: and it wasn't because of money, it was they had 209 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: created the life that they truly loved. And I told 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: that to doctor Penne and she reminded me of that 211 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: when I spoke to her last and she said, you 212 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: were sounding closer and closer to that the way you 213 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: described to me, and it just made me feel really 214 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: happy because remember before I was like, I'm not crying, 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm not happy, and that said I cry away more now, 216 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: which is great, not in a bad way, but like, 217 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: you know, just like in a feeling I'm feeling. 218 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 219 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just you know, I try to be 220 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: transparent here for y'all. So it's because I don't believe, 221 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: like I love the way Mannie you were so transparent 222 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: about the struggles with being pregnant and what does that 223 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: look like? And how we couldn't do the podcast because 224 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: it's so overwhelming. And I think it's important for people 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: to see as much as we've achieved these markers of 226 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: external success, that it's hard, you know, and what it 227 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: looks like to try to readjust to recalibrate. And you know, 228 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: I don't want you to look at my life and 229 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: think it's perfect, because I'm always trying to make things 230 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: better and sometimes quite honestly, it sucks and I'm trying 231 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: to realign so I could be happy again. But I'm 232 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: feeling like that more and more. But yeah, I'm just 233 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: like I said, I'm just proud of us over we've 234 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: really grown up together. I feel like we're just like 235 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: these like real real grown ups, you. 236 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and that we're achieving joy. And I mean, 237 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I at this point, I feel like 238 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: life is icing, you know. I've been blessed in so 239 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: many ways and I just wake up. I don't know. 240 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pinpoint when when was the shift. Probably 241 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: when the baby started sleeping through the night, when I 242 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: started to feel this sense of I was like I 243 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: made it through something and now everything is icing. And 244 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: if we can. I just got my first dose of 245 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine today. I've never been My arm is so sore, 246 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy because I know it's working. I'm 247 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: just like I wanted it to be sore, you know, 248 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: like just let me know. Like when you put your 249 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: fancy face stuff on and it stings, it's like, yes, yeah, 250 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: it's wurky, but I just so grateful. It just yeah, 251 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm grateful. 252 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: And it's how you're on social I'm like, oh, Mandy 253 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: is living her best. 254 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm living. I don't know what it is. I'm just 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I love myself, I love my family, I love this 256 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: body that I'm in. I love I don't know, man, 257 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just tired of not I'm tired of 258 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: being the reason I'm not in a good mood, you 259 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Or I was. I mean, there's 260 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: obviously some things that you can that you're out of 261 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: your control and all that kind of thing. And I 262 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: have been dealing with mental health, and I will say 263 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: shout out to zoloft and all of my my psychiatrist 264 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: and my therapist and all that. But yeah, I just 265 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: I choose joy, do you know what I mean? Like 266 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: I just I try to choose it every day. My 267 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: husband's like, why don't you choose joy more when you're 268 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: yelling at me for like washing the car for five 269 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: hours on a Saturday. Anyway, anyway, just more of this, please, 270 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm more joy is good for everyone. But yeah, first 271 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: dose of the vaccine. Have you gotten your vaccine yet? 272 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about that, because yeah, honestly, 273 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: I was afraid of being down, and I was like, 274 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't have the two days 275 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: to be so Thankfully in newer now anybody can kind 276 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: of walk up. So I'm looking into the go next week. 277 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: But I do have to because I even pause the 278 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: IVF because you know, we have our one good embryo left, okay, 279 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: and I did not. My husband's like, but I thought 280 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 2: we were gonna say I was like, honestly, the level 281 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: of although it's exciting, it's still very stressful. I did 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: not want to try to battle like book launch and 283 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: then also like doing my shots and everything else. So 284 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: now that like the heaviest of the heavy lifting is 285 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: for the most part over, So I'm going back to IVF, 286 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: so I have to check, like what you know, like 287 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like when can I do 288 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: IVF and the shot? Do I have to if I 289 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: do this shot this month or I have to wait? 290 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: So I'm actually checking in with my with my doctor 291 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: this month. So who who wished me look on that? 292 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: I just feel and also too, I really feel just 293 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: on a better spot space where like, you know, because 294 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: you want if you're trying to have a baby, you know, 295 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: you hope that you're able to do so from a 296 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: place of calm, enjoy and happiness. Doctor said it best. 297 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: She said joy is a creative space, that it's fertile 298 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: ground for creativity, it's expansive and so I just feel, 299 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, I feel just really like really good and 300 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: blessing to your point, life is certainly certainly icing. Speaking 301 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: of icing, we're about to have our interview with the 302 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: boys and we have the icing is Ian? 303 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, Ian Dunlap. Who who you know? When you 304 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: like see someone after a while, you're like, where do 305 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: I know you from? Because when we first got on, 306 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I was like Ian, uh huh, Ian, Yeah do you 307 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: want to know you? 308 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 309 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: You're with them? Okay, now I know who you want? 310 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: But yes, Ian from what is that market? Monday's the podcast. 311 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: They're they're huge podcasts. So yeah, well we are. I mean, 312 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: without further ado, let's yes, let's let's let's let the 313 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: people have what they want, which is a conversation with 314 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: the earn your Leisure Gentleman Rashad bi Lal, Troy Millings 315 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: with special guest Ian Dunlip. This was one of my 316 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: favorite uh DA hosted video guest interviews ever, So I 317 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoy all Right, we are. I can't 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: even tell you, guys how how long this has been 319 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: in the making in my own dreams, but it hasn't 320 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: been that long since I was like, Tiffany, do you 321 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: know do you know Troy and Rashaw? Can you can 322 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: you them on? You know, Tiffany's friends. I'm always trying 323 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: to just like weasel my way in there, but I'm 324 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: so excited to have you guys on the show. The 325 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Biggest can we say the Biggest business? Okay, Ian's got it. 326 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I do you want to do. 327 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: Then leisure platform? 328 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: There is. 329 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Platform, there is. 330 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: And trug gonna be humble. You know they went to 331 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: church yesterday. 332 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: I didn't. 333 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 6: The Biggest. 334 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Let me finish. Let me finish for those of you 335 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: you may be living under a rock, but I have 336 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: a feeling if you're listening to Run Ambition, you must 337 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: have seen Troy and Troy and Rashad's podcast Earn Your Leisure, 338 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: which is so much bigger than a podcasts. They have 339 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: a podcast network. Some of our friends around that network. 340 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: We've had Cash Cash on the show before. We are 341 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: so thrilled to have you guys here. So welcome, first 342 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: and foremost to Troy and Rashad, Welcome to them an Ambition. 343 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: I want to thank you for having. 344 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: This is the girls room. This is like the Girls done. 345 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're ready. 346 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: We have a handful of dudes that listen house plans 347 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: we do. We always teach them like we're not talking 348 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: to you right now, but you can listen. No, it's 349 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: so excited for you to be here because everywhere I go, 350 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: everywhere we go people we go, people are like, have 351 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: you heard of Earned your Leisure? Or they're like, you know, Tiffany, 352 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: I heard you on Earn your Leisure? You know, and 353 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: so you have transformed the culture as it relates to 354 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: personal finance, and so for that we are appreciative because normally, 355 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: like you know, our audience is typically women, right, Mandy 356 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: would say, like I said, we've got guys, but. 357 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: We got some guys, right, But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 358 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: But you know, but our mission when we started was 359 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: to you know, this was six years in the making, 360 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: this six years ago that we were starting to make 361 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the show, and our mission was there's no black women 362 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: talking about finance and career and investing in all of 363 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: all that and all that, and that's why we That 364 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: was really the audience we were speaking to. And I 365 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: feel like y'all have just exploded. And also, you know, y'all, 366 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: y'all are helping normalize black and brown black people, black men, 367 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: especially talking about finance and business. 368 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: And I never have more men slip into my DMS 369 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: in a respectful way than when I'm on yourself for real, 370 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: because nobody knows I'm married my husband sixty six. You 371 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: don't want it and he's from there. But I love 372 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: like queen. I think you want what l. 373 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 6: Queen. 374 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Gentlemen gentlemen, So no, yeah. 375 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: So welcome, welcome, welcome. So we're not going to we 376 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: want to maximize your awesomeness. I am going to me 377 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: and Mandy, well, well, we'll shoot and fire away at 378 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: some questions. Well, and I'd like to know some like 379 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: origin stuff before we get into like actual like technical questions. 380 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: So like how did this all begin? Because you guys 381 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: have had like an like a shot like shot of 382 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: rise to like start them honestly, So how did it? 383 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: How did it start? 384 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, I'll give you the whole story. So 385 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 7: we started. Me and Troy been friends all our lives 386 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 7: pretty much ever since like middle school, so you know 387 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 7: we always was friends, always talking about you know, sports 388 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 7: and rap and all that kind of stuff. And me, 389 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 7: you know, being a financial advisor after I got finished college, 390 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 7: and Troy being a teacher. You know, he brought me 391 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 7: in the classroom and he started teaching financial literacy to kids, 392 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 7: and that was really the start of it. And then 393 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 7: from there that kind of blossomed to me, you know, 394 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 7: developing an Instagram page, and you know, from there that 395 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 7: that led to people asking for a podcast, that led 396 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 7: to you know, starting of Earning Your Leisure, which you know, 397 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 7: we started off talking about you know, backstories of entrepreneurs 398 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 7: and the backstories and different businesses things of that nature, 399 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 7: and then that kind of transformed into deep dives into 400 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 7: different industries that transformed it's like a domino effect. Then 401 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 7: that transformed and to where we have now, which is 402 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 7: a platform so earn your leasure, not just the podcast 403 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 7: as a platform. So like we have Inin on with 404 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 7: us right now, our partner on market Mondays, and that's 405 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 7: the first show that we actually like executive produced, if 406 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: you would say, Umbrella and Now's the stock Show, And 407 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 7: that became one of the top investment shows on the internet. 408 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 7: So one domino kind of led to the next. But 409 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 7: it really all started in the classroom and then from there, 410 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 7: which I know you can appreciate, Tiffany, you being a teacher, 411 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 7: a former teacher, and then that from there that just 412 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 7: kind of led to what we do now, which I 413 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 7: still feel like is a form of teaching, just in 414 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 7: a different variety and not in a classroom, but you know, 415 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 7: on the internet for the whole world to see. 416 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so many similarities. And from what 417 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: we were doing the summer internship program. Kids would come in, 418 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: we would interview them and they would tell us about 419 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: the future aspirations, and then we would go out in 420 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: the community and try to pair them up with that 421 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: future aspiration, whether it be a pediatrician, electrician, an architect, 422 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: and so they would get the six weeks of experience 423 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: of being what it's like, seeing what it's like to 424 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: be in that profession. And so if you think about it, 425 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: that's kind of what we do now. We just we're 426 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: actually showing people the professions, whereas the kids were going 427 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: to see it and they will report back to each other. 428 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: And two things I always say that can happen from 429 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: an internship. You can say, yeah, I really like this, 430 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: I want to pursue this in the future, or no way, 431 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: this is too boring, I never want to do this. 432 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: But you're getting that experience at fourteen, whereas most people 433 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: are getting that after they've graduated from college, which is 434 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: going to cost you a lot of money. And so 435 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: that was our goal. And now we're doing that to 436 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: the world. Right We're introducing them to so many different 437 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: careers so they can say, you know what, I want 438 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: to pursue this, and they might be doing it at sixteen, 439 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: they may be doing that at fifty, but they have 440 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: their eyes open to so many different fields now. 441 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: So it started from an internship program, correct. 442 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So at the end of the internship, the kids 443 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: were going to get paid like five hundred dollars, and 444 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: so it was their first time at fourteen, it's your 445 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: first time coming in contact with money. I knew that, 446 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: and I said. He was like, you said, he was 447 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: on his financial advising career. And I'm like, I think 448 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: you should come and teach these kids about money. 449 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Man. 450 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: It's probably vital that they know what the value of 451 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: it is, what they should do with it, because most 452 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: of the kids at fourteen's like, all right, that's back 453 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: to school shopping. I'm buying the new Sniggers. I'm buying 454 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: some jeans. And they didn't realize after they bought the 455 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: singers and the jeans, they had more money left. 456 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: That's like half an AirPod? Why are they so expensive? 457 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: Will you'll? 458 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: Girl just lost? I'm like, you've got your pop money. 459 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: She actually does, because she's like, I work for you, 460 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: so I send you. 461 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: The Metro North still has one half of my AirPods, 462 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: and I will be not forgotten. Speaking of the Metro North, 463 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I was going to work this in do y'all Are 464 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: y'all from Westchester? 465 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 466 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: I read them right. 467 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 6: I live. 468 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: To the town. 469 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I live in Greenberg. 470 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: No you don't, I do, I do. 471 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I just moved here a few years ago. Yeah, my 472 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: husband's from Manhattan. Y'all are from the Bronx. 473 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: Right, originally born in Where do you go when. 474 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: You're from the Bronx, either Westchester or Jersey me and 475 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: up going to Chester. 476 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: It's not to late for Jersey. You can come on. 477 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 6: It's an interesting dynamic because it's like your your husband. 478 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: He's black, he's Dominican. 479 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: Dominican. Okay, so he's black my book. 480 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we have those discussions, but we'll continue. 481 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: This isn't about that. 482 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 6: But that's a different that's a different conversation. 483 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 7: But now, you know, growing up, that was the thing, 484 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 7: like you know, if you if your parents did decent 485 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: for themselves, like you said, and where we're from, Greenberg 486 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 7: is actually one of the only towns in America where 487 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 7: it's like a suburb, but it's like ninety percent black. 488 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 6: Yes, it's a black like middle class That is what 489 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 6: we loved about it. 490 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, working class suburb, which is an interesting dynamic because 491 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 7: what's justter County, like where we come from, is very 492 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 7: segregated place and you know, majority of it is like 493 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 7: very well to do white neighborhoods, but then you have 494 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 7: pockets where it's all black, Like we're from Greenberg, Mount Vernon, 495 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 7: South Yonkers Peak Skill. So it's interesting. That's an interesting 496 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 7: study in geography. You know, it's kind of off topic 497 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 7: a little bit, but we're still talking about finance where 498 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 7: it's like, you know, segregation is still alive and people 499 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 7: just don't realize exactly. It's like they just are forced 500 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 7: to move to certain neighborhoods, or they move to certain neighborhoods, 501 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: and it's like, it's just interesting that this small town 502 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 7: that we live in twenty minutes outside the Bronx and 503 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 7: ninety percent of the people migrated from the Bronx and 504 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 7: it's all black. 505 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 6: They could have moved anybody. 506 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: Crazy, many is that in that in the program, we 507 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: actually did a project on the segregation of our town 508 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: because it's tool. 509 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I want to read it. I love the history. Yeah, 510 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to know everything about it. 511 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: It's very interesting, especially when you break it down to 512 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: the school districts. So yeah, we'll talk, we'll talk after this. 513 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we talked about this on the show, just 514 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: like you know, as an investment home ownership being this 515 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: you know pathway too. We're gonna talk about investing home 516 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: ownership being this traditional form of wealth building in black 517 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: and brown communities, and seeing why I had to reckon 518 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: with the fact that, oh, I could afford a house here, 519 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: because unfortunately it seems like home values have been yes, increasing, 520 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: but not as you know, not as expensive as other 521 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: areas in Westchester, and you have to think about, oh, well, 522 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: there's racism. 523 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 7: And the homes don't appreciate the same level where we're from. 524 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 7: Like any other place in Westchester, the homes appreciate much higher, 525 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 7: but ironically, for some reason, in the Black neighborhood, the 526 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 7: homes don't appreciate the same value as anywhere else in 527 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 7: the county. So it's an interesting study. I actually would 528 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 7: like to hit Ian's perspective on that too, because. 529 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: I was going to say, I would like to, like, 530 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: I think, because having Ian here is special as well, 531 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: and I'd love to hear some of the background, like 532 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: how did you get here? How did you link with 533 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: your leisure? You know, but how did you even get 534 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: to the space where you knew? Like honestly, like my 535 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: sister loves you know, everybody knows on the on the show, 536 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: they're always like, bring care along. That's my sister who 537 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: gives us all of our our stock tips. Who she's like, now, 538 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm good, but she you are one of the few 539 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: people that she's like, Yo, he's dope. 540 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 6: You know. 541 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd love to know. How'd you get here, how'd 542 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: you learn what you learn? How'd you connect with her? 543 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Your leisure? 544 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: It came out of pain. So I went to Indiana University. 545 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm from northwest Indiana. I grew up twenty minutes from Chicago. 546 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety nine and two thousand, my dad gave 547 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 4: a guy some money because he was in construction, got 548 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: lost all the money lost one hundred and fifteen thousand 549 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: on like three months doing option trades. And there was 550 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: a guy's first three months with the firm literally told him, hey, 551 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: it just happened. And my dad was like, what do 552 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: you mean, It just happens, like there was no care, 553 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: no compassion. So that was my first introduction. Second introduction 554 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: Indiana University. I'm walking from Valentine. Kudos Andy Shiftman, he's 555 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: an agent now in the NBA, and he was like, Yo, 556 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: Cuban made this crazy trade with Yahoo, which crazy enough. 557 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: EYL went to interview him about, you know, fifteen years later, 558 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: but Mark Cuban had She's so broadcast dot Com to 559 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: Yahoo and then got the stocks and then shortened it 560 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: as a FELLO took that money and then invested long 561 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: term into the market. So I had an exposure to 562 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: what happens when things don't go well and then this 563 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: other side of like, even when the market goes down, 564 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 4: you can make money. So one of my buddies worked 565 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: for JP Morgan in two thousand and seven. He worked 566 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: for a big firm. He told me everything to invest 567 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: in the recession. Guess what I did did not listen. 568 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: He called me four months later and he was like, Okay, 569 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: I'm about to retire. He was thirty five. He was like, 570 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 4: you can liquidate everything that I told you to get 571 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: and I was like, loqu what He was like, no, 572 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm about to retire. He was like, you didn't buy 573 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: what I told you. And he was already rich. But 574 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 4: he still retired to this day from two thousand and 575 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: eight from those investments. And I was like, see what 576 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: had happened? Was I was going to I went on 577 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: a day too, And that was my first lesson of like, 578 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: these recessions and huge crashes are immense opportunities to us. 579 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: We panic, but for other people, they end up profiting 580 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 5: from it. 581 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: So from that point on, I was like, I'll never 582 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: get called not knowing what a recession is and how 583 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: to take advantage of it, and I will post on 584 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: Facebook and share stuff with my friends for free. And 585 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: then one of my friends Jury introduced me to Troy 586 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: Rashott and then of course, you know, they didn't know me, 587 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: and it's so many we all know this. We see 588 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: people people who post online who act like they're the greatest, 589 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: but they're not good at their craft. So it took 590 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: them a while to like warm up to me. But 591 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: after we connect and did episode seventy end up being 592 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: a classic. And then from there goes to the Power Partnership. 593 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, we should do a podcast together because 594 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 4: I like working with other people, but in particularly I 595 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: like working with us, because let's be honest. In twenty ten, 596 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: when I was talking about investing and using rap references 597 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 4: in basketball references, it was looking down upon it, like, 598 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 4: no one wants to hear that perspective of the market 599 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: from Alanovs, you know, And I'm like, but my people 600 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: in the barbershop get that they don't understand what a 601 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 4: derivative is or a synthetic instrument. 602 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 5: They're like, oh, what is that? A beat machine? 603 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: Like? 604 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 5: What's that? So making it plain made it fun. 605 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 4: And I think we should in a wave to make 606 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: it acceptable for us to be us and invested in 607 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: the market. And last year I think our growth was 608 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: the biggest in investing in this entire history. 609 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: So who can I ask y'all a question going back 610 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: to your origins? What I know? So Rashad financial advisor? 611 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: I and you also worked in wait, JP Morgan or 612 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: is that a buddy No, that was. 613 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 5: My buddy mom. I'm an investor. I just didn't learn 614 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 5: how to. 615 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: Do it on my own d y investing. So Troy 616 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: educator teach? What did you teach? 617 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 3: I taught health science and physics. 618 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, coach Troy, you can call coach 619 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: exactly right. But but y'all, I mean, and I know 620 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Ian you kind of shared some of your early financial inspirations. 621 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: But for Troy and Rashad, I mean, who was it? 622 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: How did you end up here? I think for personally, 623 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, I accidentally ended up in personal finance, you know, 624 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: kicked on my butt as a millennial in the Great Recession, 625 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Tiffany's story. I think it's very well known about, you know, 626 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: a similar comeback story after the recession. But yeah, what 627 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: what what what drives y'all? What's your inspiration financially? Who 628 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: or what is your inspiration? What was that moment for y'all? 629 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 7: I mean for me, I think my dad was definitely 630 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 7: a major inspiration for me. Like I grew up in 631 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: the household. Like my mom is a teacher and she's 632 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 7: like very you know, ultra paycheck, Like she has no 633 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 7: heart to be an entrepreneur, like she needs to have 634 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 7: a paycheck. She's not feeling an entrepreneur life. And part 635 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 7: of that is that, you know, my dad's entrepreneur's whole life, 636 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 7: but you know, being an entrepreneur's ups and downs. So, 637 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 7: you know, I grew up in the household where you know, 638 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 7: I saw like, you know, financial issues, like you can see. 639 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying. As you get older, 640 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: you start to you. 641 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: Know, realize what's going on, and you know, you see 642 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: fights and arguments and it's like you said this last time, 643 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: I'm not you're not. 644 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 6: Borrowing more money from me. 645 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 7: DA, So it's like you start to see, like there's 646 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 7: good months and then there's bad months, but that's the 647 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 7: life of an entrepreneur. But I always appreciated that, you know, 648 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 7: he didn't have to work for anybody, and you know, 649 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 7: he he always had that that like do self mentality, 650 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 7: and that's something that I always wanted to do. I 651 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 7: never really wanted to work for anybody. I never was 652 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 7: good at following orders or following directions. It's something I 653 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 7: never never was good at. So I always knew I 654 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 7: wanted to be an entrepreneur my whole entire life. I 655 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 7: just wasn't sure exactly what direction I wanted to go in. So, 656 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 7: you know, business is something that I always fell in 657 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 7: love with, Like even when I was young, I loved 658 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 7: the stock market, like just movies like Wall Street and 659 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 7: Barbarians at the Gate. Like I was watching these movies 660 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 7: when I was twelve years old. It was just something 661 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 7: about I wanted to be a corporate takeover artists. It 662 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 7: was just fascinating to me, Like you know, growing to 663 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 7: Wall Street when I was a kid and just seeing 664 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 7: everything move so quickly, it just was like fascinating to me. 665 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 7: So I always wanted to be involved in the stock market. 666 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 7: I always wanted to, you know, be in the industry. 667 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: But you're different. You weren't like most twelve was. Do 668 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: you think it was because living in Manhattan, you know, 669 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Wall Street was so close but so far. Do you 670 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: think that was part of the allure? 671 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 7: Nah, not really, because most of the people that I 672 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: grew up with didn't share the same ambition or the 673 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 7: same passion for business or stocks that I had. So 674 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't I don't know what it was, 675 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 7: but I guess. You know, sometimes in life, you just 676 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 7: you know, you can just see a kid and you're like, 677 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 7: he's going to be like that help too, yeah, seeing it, 678 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 7: Yeah for sure. But even now, I mean, I have 679 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 7: siblings and they're not entrepreneurs. They didn't they didn't go 680 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 7: down that route. And they're older than me, so I'm 681 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 7: the youngest. So you know, I just think sometimes you 682 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 7: just have things that's just wide in your brain. And 683 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 7: like I said, I always had an issue with authority, 684 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 7: like you know, even playing basketball player. 685 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: But no, you don't really me and Mandy ben hard headed. 686 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 7: I think that you know that that's a gift that 687 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 7: the courage, but more of a gift, more of a 688 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 7: gift because it forced me to figure out you know, 689 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 7: I never really had a real job. So I had 690 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 7: a job one time at Target for two weeks when 691 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 7: I was in college. 692 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 6: I got fired. I got fired after I think like 693 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: ten days you just left kind of. I got fired 694 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: at me. 695 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: Like a two hours un I feel like. 696 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 6: Like a two hour lunch. But they're like, look, this 697 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: isn't gonna. 698 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 5: Work out the thirty minute lunch break trash though. 699 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: You know that's a true story. That's a true story. Yeah, 700 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: I came home from college. He's like, what I'm gonna do? 701 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, you think I could teach. I'm like, 702 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's gonna be fair. 703 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: Wait so rashad. Okay, so you're this like budding entrepreneur 704 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: very you know, it sounds like you're very risk tolerant. 705 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: If we can use some you know, investing speak. So 706 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: Troy public Education, I'm sensing maybe you were. Well, you 707 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: tell me your story, because y'all. 708 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: The my parents, I'm first generation. My parents are from Jamaica, 709 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: and so we would you know, we would exactly exactly. 710 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean they installed hard work, hard work, hard work, 711 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: and they instilled like being a certain profession, and teaching 712 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: wasn't one of them. I kind of just stumbled upon 713 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: it because I naturally had to work at kids. Our 714 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: first job was working at a community center as counselors, 715 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: and so I always worked with kids, and I love sports. 716 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna play sports, and so my 717 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: biggest inspiration with athletes and rappers like straight up like 718 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: Jay and Puffer with inspirations for me, obviously, Michael Jordan 719 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: was an inspiration, and I thought like, you know what 720 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: if I can't play sports, I want to be around 721 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: it at least, and so I initially wanted to be 722 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: a physical therapist, and very quickly I was like, why 723 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: am I doing this? I hate science, Like this is 724 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: just too many science courses. I'm not going to make this, 725 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: and so I just put the two natural things that 726 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: I knew. I knew working with kids, I knew sports, 727 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: and so I said, I'm going to teach his head. 728 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: So my biggest inspirations with that. And once I knew 729 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: that I wasn't going to make money from sports, I said, 730 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: let me find a professional in sports that I can 731 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: make money. So sports medicine became a thing, and then 732 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: obviously it fell out, But you know, my inspirations are 733 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: around me my friends. Like I said, I've know Shotty 734 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: pretty much my whole life. He's been an entrepreneur most 735 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: of my entire like since i've known them, right, And 736 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: so our other partner, Mike, is an entrepreneur as well. 737 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: And so imagine the text messages as I'm going to 738 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: work and they're just waking up. But I was thinking, 739 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: they're like, look, man, you know what, You're not going 740 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: to be doing this for long, And I'm like, now, 741 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: I really love this. You know, like when you when 742 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: you're working around kids and you see your purpose and 743 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: you realize how different you are in the education field, 744 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: and you know there's not going to be anybody that 745 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: replaces if you leave, you become more passionate. But I've 746 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: always had the entrepreneurial mindset, and I think we had 747 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: an argument once. He was like, yeah, you got a boss, 748 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, I don't have a boss. I 749 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: work for myself. Do the real bosses of the kids 750 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: that I'm so those kids were my boss because they 751 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: would be able to tell me how I was doing 752 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: on a daily basis, whereas the principal, I know more 753 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: about this profession that I'm doing than he does. And 754 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: so if I do my job, I look good and 755 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: so to see and if he does his job, we 756 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: all look good. And so we work in this together. 757 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: I always looked at everybody as my colleague, and they were like, yeah, 758 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: sounds good, but you got a boss. 759 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: People always hating on teachers, but you know, like sure, 760 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: you know, like when you teach, you are literally equipped 761 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: to do just about anything, anything anything, because like you're 762 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: like a psychologist, You're a CEO of that classroom. You're 763 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: the CFO. You got to deal with teacher social work, 764 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: and then every year it flips and you got to. 765 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: Learn and readjust the relation skills a great every kindness 766 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 4: like you two are too, the kindness like we're shouting 767 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 4: out rough that authority thing. We'd be like, all right, 768 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 4: like we're shouting failed in just fail. 769 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: You guys are a lot more patient, like you're gonna 770 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 5: get it. 771 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 772 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: When he came into the classroom, I know, joke, when 773 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: he came in and he credit to him because he's 774 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: gotten a lot better with actually being in from the classroom, 775 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 3: he would get their attention like all right, all right, 776 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: all right, all right, and like going to work, I'm like, 777 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 3: now we got to ease it. We got to ease 778 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: it in. Then we got to ease this this thing again. 779 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, me so, And this is something that I 780 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: want people to realize, Like I don't come from a 781 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: business background. My business comes from watching my brothers and 782 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: watch my friends be entrepreneurs and learning that. And so 783 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: it's encouraging because it's like, look, you can do this. 784 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: It takes a lot of research, it takes a lot 785 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: of homework and touches a lot of discipline, but you know, 786 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: anybody can do it if you put the right the 787 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: right amount of time in. 788 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're coming up on well, we've already passed 789 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: the one year pandemic adversary, which is seems dumbed to 790 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: even call it that because it's such a traumatic, traumatic year, 791 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: especially for black communities, especially for black and brown communities. 792 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: But let's talk about the market, because I know a 793 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: year ago markets were down. Were they down? I don't 794 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: know if I'm getting it's April now, what is even time? 795 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: It was a scary time for some people, but to 796 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: your point, Ian, it was also a time of opportunity. 797 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: How do you think people So let's say let's say Ian, 798 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: people you know, had a year like you did ten 799 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: years ago when your friend told you to invest and 800 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: they were like, I'm not going to do it. I'm 801 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: a little too afraid. So they feel like they've missed 802 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: the boat. Now we're a year post pandemic. What what 803 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: message do you have to people who were like, damn, 804 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: I didn't get hurts. I didn't people. 805 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: When she means people, she meets me. I was like, 806 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: my sister was like me walking over the wired I 807 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 2: don't know. I invested me. I have a wealth group. 808 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: Carol was like get this, get this. I was like, 809 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: h tell me how it works out. She's like, I'm 810 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: up a thousand percent. What about you? I'm like, I 811 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 2: mean I'm up a thousand percent and business. So yes, Ian, 812 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: how can I stop up my tears and be ready 813 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: for the next time? 814 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 5: For me, it took me twelve years to get ready 815 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 5: for this moment. 816 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: But I would tell anyone that missed out use that 817 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 4: as motivation to never get caught in this again, because like, imagine, 818 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: so I. 819 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 5: Looked like I visited Westchester's nice. 820 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 4: When I looked at the houses, I'm like kind of 821 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 4: pricey because I'm in Houston, So like five hundred thousand 822 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: get us a mansion. I'm like, gotta wait to move 823 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: out there, right, But imagine if houses out there that 824 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: are the prices now they dropped eighty percent, we would 825 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: be like, girl, we got to go get get all 826 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 4: friends and go buy as many houses as possible. Last 827 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 4: year happened in everyone panics and so in real time 828 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 4: I was telling people how far the market was going 829 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 4: to drop and want to buy. So last year we 830 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 4: did the collaboration with stock Club. Like at one time, 831 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 4: I was like by Apple, Microsoft's Maderna Tesla AMD and video, 832 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 4: Microsoft Shopify jkhy in five nine clouds. So on average, 833 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: for those who got into stock Club last year, they 834 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: have like five hundred and thirty five percent indexes and right, 835 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 4: and if you missed out, it's like, damn, I should 836 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: have took advantage of it. But the great part is 837 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: the market drops every month. It's just as sure as 838 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: the sun is going to shine, rain is going to come. 839 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 4: We have to take advantage of those moments. But when 840 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: those big drops happen in quality companies, and Rashad said 841 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: that what we're doing market money is like do you 842 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 4: think eighty percent of value of Boeing left just because 843 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 4: the market dropped with fifty percent of Apple actually left. 844 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 5: No, those are the greatest times to buy. 845 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: Of course, do your research if you're super serious about investing. 846 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm telling everyone to read one hundred pages a day. 847 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: If you're beginning to start with ten pages a day, 848 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: you'll be surprised the attraction that you can cover, and 849 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: you will be able to beat ninety nine percent of people. 850 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: But if you just buy every single month and when 851 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 4: we have fifty percent drops, if you buy quality companies, 852 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: like top ten companies, you'll go to My formula is 853 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: two index funds and then two technology companies. That's all 854 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 4: you need, equally weighted. So if you have ten thousand dollars, 855 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: split the money up amongst the four and you'll be fine. 856 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 4: But those opportunities when the market crashes, I'm going to 857 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: be very honest, those of us that are investors were 858 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 4: a smile. 859 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 5: And ear to ear and be like, thank you God. 860 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. 861 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: In a sad way though, because you know for some 862 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: well also too, but I have so many questions, but 863 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: for me, so for example, I got a call from 864 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: my cousin Tilla and Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta originally, even 865 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: though I wrapped the burg. Now, I don't know any 866 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: young people around here, so I'm just like an old 867 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: married lady. 868 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: With a. 869 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: The burg. 870 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 3: Well, Greenberg one of those. I'll bring it to your house, y'all. 871 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: But really, when we find out we live two streets 872 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: away from each other, that's going to be the real 873 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: because green is tiny. All right, mom, brain, where was 874 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: my question? 875 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: All right? 876 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: Listen my cousin Tiya, that's right, she calls me, and 877 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: listen as Rishad and especially in Ian probably too. You 878 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: know that you can't just like give I have so 879 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: many cousins, you know, some of my couple of my 880 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: siblings too, who you want to just like give them 881 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 1: a financial advice, but they have to come to you. 882 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: You know. I have learned people don't want you preaching 883 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: to them. They need to come to you. So finally, 884 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: after years of like text me whenever you got a 885 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: question to you, she finally text me. She's a preschool 886 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: or preschool teacher in Atlanta, really hurt by their recession, 887 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: and she's like, hey, my coworker was talking about game Stop. 888 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: Should I buy some? And my first reaction was like, no, 889 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: this was not when GameStop was this was when it 890 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: was in the news to the point where you know, 891 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: my cousin was hearing about it. But I like what 892 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: you said about education because for me, I wanted to 893 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: be like, yes, you know, buy some stock. But for me, 894 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: I hesitated because I knew that she didn't have the 895 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: education part down. Like it's almost like you need to 896 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: read and be educated so that you can take someone's 897 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: advice and you can you know, make an educated decision 898 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: about investing. So what would you say to and you 899 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: know Tiya When I when she came to me and 900 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: asked me about that, I was like, do you have 901 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: a four to one K? And she hadn't, and she 902 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: was like leaving a match on the table. So for 903 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: people who are maybe they haven't you know, they're not 904 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: ready for the moment quite yet. It's not their time. 905 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: We call it financial double Dutch. It's not their time 906 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: to just jump in, you know, just quite yet. Backing 907 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: it up, I mean, do you feel like you know, 908 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter just jump in any way, or because 909 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: I tend to be more risk averse, or do you 910 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: feel like some people should just start with you know, 911 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: four one K start with I or Ray start with 912 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: emergency fund first and foremost before. 913 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: And I'll piggyback on that question, like, and then what 914 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: does someone start to read? Like if someone's like, okay, 915 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: I want to prepare, you know, like you know, what 916 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: what books would you suggest someone start with and start 917 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: to accumulate that kind of knowledge. To piggyback on Mandy's question, well, 918 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: if they want. 919 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 5: To be financially whole, they should probably get your book. 920 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean with money, can we take any in the 921 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: camera and just a little bit it's. 922 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: Always but seriously, like, I have a fourteen year old 923 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: step daughter and I want to because she's making like 924 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: money from me and everybody else that she's been working with, 925 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: and I want, you know, she knows how to budget, 926 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 2: she knows how to save, but I'm like, I want 927 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: to sit down with her to be like, let's let's 928 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 2: invest together. So I'm like something that's simple enough that 929 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 2: I think if a fourteen year old can start, then 930 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: anyone can. So I'd love to know. 931 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 7: I'm going to let Ian answer this, but I think 932 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 7: that first we have to get out of the the 933 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 7: thing of like what books to read, because as a teacher, 934 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 7: you understand that there's seven different I think seven different 935 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 7: learning styles. Everybody learns differently. Everybody does not learn by reading. 936 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 7: Like me, like, I don't really read that many books. 937 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 7: If I read a book, it's going to be I'm 938 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 7: listening to the book on audio. I can remember something 939 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 7: a lot better than reading something like my brain is 940 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 7: not working that manner. And I feel like I feel 941 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 7: like you know, even now in this generation, people are 942 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 7: learning differently, so we can never discount the value of 943 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 7: how someone learns. So one of the best ways to 944 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 7: learn is podcasts are do. 945 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: You know any investing podcasts? 946 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: People should. 947 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 6: Podcast? 948 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 7: YouTube? Even instagram you learn. You can learn if you 949 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 7: follow the right the right pages and the right people. 950 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 7: So that's the first thing because I feel like just still. 951 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 7: I remember I was telling my cousin before. He was like, 952 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 7: here were books you reading. He was in jail at 953 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 7: the time, so you know, in jail like they reading scrolls, 954 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 7: like they're reading everything. Like I'm like, you know, I'm listening. 955 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 7: He's like you listening to an audio? Like he was like, 956 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 7: you know, like that's not learning. I'm like, wow, the 957 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 7: same thing. What if I'm listening to somebody tell me something, 958 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 7: or if you're reading it, what's different about it? So 959 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 7: that's the first thing. I feel like, you know, in 960 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 7: the age of information, there's so many different ways to learn, 961 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 7: and me personally, I learned better from listening to podcasts, 962 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 7: watching videos, and actually even you know, buying courses than 963 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 7: buying books. I'm not going to read a book this 964 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 7: big I ain't gonna do it. 965 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 3: If you send him a long text, you're not reading. 966 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: And that's good, thank you for because you righte the educated. 967 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: To me, it's like you're right because there are differentiated 968 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: learning says that, like, you know, everybody absorbs knowledge differently, 969 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: and you ought to find the way that you best learn, 970 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: you know. So no, that makes total sense. 971 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: And then for me two things. We need to stop 972 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 4: saying that investing is hard. It is not for us 973 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: because the greatest risk that we will take is not 974 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 4: being able to have our money work for us. And 975 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 4: I've been saying this in twenty ten then last year 976 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: hitting everyone's like, maybe you had a point, because what 977 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 4: if I was talking to a guy to day who 978 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 4: came to put a desk together for me. He has 979 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 4: a friend that is working with businesses to automate eighty 980 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 4: percent of employees out of businesses. It's a business owner, 981 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the automation? The other side of me, 982 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 4: I'm looking at them like, well, my aunts, my cousins, 983 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 4: my relatives, they're going to be out of work. So 984 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 4: if we're not putting our money into the possession of 985 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 4: these companies, and you're actually buying a part of a 986 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 4: business which we already know what to wants to invest in, 987 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 4: I think the greatest risk is not investing in them. 988 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 4: My favorite book is Money Master the Game. It is 989 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 4: that thick. So what if I sat you down with 990 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 4: Drake Tupac Lee or whomever in the music industry and 991 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 4: that was their bible, which you read it. I think 992 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 4: a lot of times people don't know what the outcome 993 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 4: is going to be. That's why they don't want to read. 994 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 4: But I'm like, hey, if you invest one thousand dollars 995 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 4: a month, you should probably end up with a minimum 996 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 4: of five hundred thousand. That would entice people a hell 997 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 4: of a lot more. I think we were more than 998 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 4: capable of being. 999 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 5: Able to invest in the mark. 1000 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 6: I think they still I think they still won't read it, 1001 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 6: I think, and that. 1002 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 5: Which is sad. 1003 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: But the thing is also you don't need to read 1004 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: a book to know how to just in a target 1005 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: date fund, you know, and that's what you're talking about. 1006 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: It's not for us often it's like the the literature, 1007 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: the written tips about investing. It makes it feel like 1008 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: and my cousin Tia, all she had to do was 1009 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: go to her you know HR website. Often they automatically 1010 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: put her in a target date fund. And you know what, 1011 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: if that had happened ten years ago, she would have 1012 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: been ready without reading a book, you know what I mean. 1013 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: I was ready for this recession because baby man Mandy 1014 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: at twenty two or twenty three open a four to 1015 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: one k in twenty eleven, you know, and I just 1016 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: put in my fifteen percent however much a month since then. 1017 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, we always send that message. And I think 1018 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: where Tiff and I kind of you know, are always 1019 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of towing that line is for some people, that's good, 1020 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: like you're doing it, you're investing, you know, if you 1021 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: got a four to one k in Ira. But then 1022 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: where you guys are more comfortable playing and as the 1023 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: individual stock picking and things like that, that I think 1024 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: that is the point where I'm like, probably read a book. 1025 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 7: I think you have to meet people where they're at 1026 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 7: and that's one of the things that our platform has grown. 1027 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 7: It's not like we're the first people to ever talk 1028 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 7: about investing or real estate, but we have created a platform, 1029 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 7: probably the first platform of any real you know, stature, 1030 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 7: that delivers the information in the language that the people 1031 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 7: can understand, and it's very it's very digestible. So we 1032 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 7: understand that people have a lot of stuff going on, 1033 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 7: so you know, they might not want to invest in reading, 1034 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 7: and hey, that's that's their prerogative. Now they can just 1035 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 7: tune us in and they can listen and yeah, no, 1036 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 7: we start with the basics before you actually should invest. 1037 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 5: Me. 1038 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 7: I'm a financial advisor, so my whole background is basics 1039 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 7: as far as you know four one k's iras that 1040 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 7: all of these things, emergency savings. I was talking about 1041 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 7: that stuff way before we had an investment show, like 1042 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 7: you should have three months minimum, six months recommended, twelve 1043 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 7: months maximum. As far as emergency savings, this stuff is 1044 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 7: not really sexy and nobody really wants to talk about that, 1045 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 7: but you know, Tiffany does a great job of explaining 1046 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 7: that in great detail. And that's that's the fundamentals. When 1047 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 7: I used to play sports, you know, learn the fundamentals. 1048 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 7: You can't shoot a half caught hook shot before you 1049 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 7: can make a layup, like you know what I mean. 1050 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 7: Like you try to skip the basics and you're gonna 1051 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 7: hurt yourself. You try to jump into cryptocurrency before you 1052 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 7: actually have done anything, and you're going to lose everything 1053 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 7: because it's not based off of information. I always say 1054 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 7: investing is a game of knowledge. Gambling is a game 1055 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 7: of chance. You co mingle the two when you don't 1056 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 7: have knowledge, so you can gamble by investing if you 1057 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 7: just a lot of people's research is with somebody told them. 1058 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 7: So if my research is what Troy told me, no 1059 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 7: matter how knowledge you could research, no matter how knowledge, 1060 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 7: I'm still relying on for somebody information. Right, that's like 1061 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 7: a game of telephone. So we have to we have 1062 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 7: to start at the basic levels. And it's not complicated. 1063 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 7: But it's just a matter of just doing some investing 1064 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 7: in yourself. Investing in yourself and investing yourself could just 1065 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 7: be time, like just taking an hour out your day. 1066 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 7: And I feel like, now there's so much information now. 1067 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 3: So easy gonna add to that. A lot of times 1068 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 3: we and I did this too, right, especially in education, 1069 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 3: you get your summer reading log and it's a bunch 1070 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: of books that you don't want to read, and since 1071 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 3: you didn't read them, that didn't count. And I used 1072 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 3: to think to myself, like I don't read enough. I 1073 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 3: don't read enough. And I started discounting myself because I 1074 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 3: didn't realize like, wait, I'm reading the daily News every day. 1075 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm reading ESPN magazine every day. What I'm reading is different. 1076 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,479 Speaker 3: It's not a book on literature. It's actually your book 1077 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 3: on sports or I'm learning something from it. So that 1078 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: led me into reading websites, like going to websites every morning. Right, 1079 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 3: So when we started, I had like fifteen publications I 1080 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 3: would read every morning, so I would wake up at 1081 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: like five o'clock and read them. I had CNBC Business Insider, 1082 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 3: Fox Business. I mean like literally every morning. This was 1083 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,479 Speaker 3: what I was reading and finding articles and learning. Every 1084 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: time I read, I learned something new and that just 1085 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: became a habit. 1086 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 6: Right. 1087 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: So I know they say if you do something for 1088 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: thirty days, it becomes a habit. Tried doing that for 1089 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: like two years, right, So the amount of information that 1090 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm learning again, I told you, like, education is my background. 1091 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 3: But now business is my life, and so it becomes 1092 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 3: that because I'm learning every time I read. I don't 1093 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 3: want people to discount the things that they read. Yeah, 1094 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 3: you may not have read Money Masters a game, but 1095 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 3: you can go to CNBC dot com. You can go 1096 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 3: to your leasure, or you can read two pages of 1097 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 3: this here an article. 1098 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 7: But we have to stop looking past our institutions. Like 1099 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 7: a lot of times, we we have the answers in 1100 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 7: front of us and we make it more complicated. Like 1101 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 7: so the question is like where to start? Get that 1102 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 7: question a lot. So like Tiffany has several books, that's 1103 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 7: a starting point. Earn your Lisia has over four hundred 1104 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 7: videos on YouTube and three posts on Instagram a day. 1105 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 7: That's a starting point. Market Monday is the starting point. 1106 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 7: We have Eyo University. That's a starting point. Red Panda 1107 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 7: stock Club that's a starting point. So before before I 1108 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 7: lead people to any other direction, I'm gonna lead them 1109 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 7: to where we actually started, because this is a language 1110 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 7: that we speak. I personally don't read the Wall Street Journal. 1111 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 7: Of course, the Wall Street Journal is very valuable. 1112 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 6: It's a highly. 1113 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 7: Respected newspaper, but I don't read it, so I can't 1114 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 7: recommend something that I don't do. 1115 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 5: Myself, but you are executing on the part. 1116 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 7: I listen to market Mondays because I'm on market Mondays. 1117 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 7: I know I was trusted. I do watch CNBC from 1118 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 7: time to time, so I can't recommend that. But other 1119 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 7: than that, I don't really think like we have. That's 1120 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 7: an issue. We always look like the holy grail of something. 1121 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, what's the one thing I can read every day? 1122 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: And it's a lot of pressure. I like what you 1123 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: said about you know, you put too much press. I 1124 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: don't read enough. You know, if you're waiting for the 1125 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: one thing you're going to read that's going to change 1126 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: your life and be waiting a long time. It's more, 1127 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: it's the it's the sum of everything that you've read, 1128 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, and it takes time. And you're right, people 1129 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. Let's talk about the network. 1130 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: E y L is not just one podcast. How many 1131 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: shows do you guys have? Now? 1132 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 6: Four? 1133 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 3: Four? 1134 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: Four shows? 1135 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 6: Okay? Okay? Five? 1136 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 7: We got five okay, name them, name them, Market Monday's 1137 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 7: Inside the Vote, Social Proof Podcast, and then we have 1138 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 7: dream Nation, dream Nation and we have in a Wealth 1139 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 7: podcast and Wealth. Those two are coming, they're coming Okay. 1140 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 7: One is a mental health podcast, one is a real 1141 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 7: estate podcast. And then we're doing a limited limited edition 1142 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 7: podcast with John Henry, our friend John Henry. 1143 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 2: That's I know who you're talking about episode that's the. 1144 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: Guy from that show that sounds very vague. 1145 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: No, there was a show. He's light skinned with glass. 1146 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: Yes, entrepreneurs like MTV but anyway, he's like vice, Okay, 1147 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: thank you, yeah, MTV? Whoa anyway that you don't know 1148 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: what that is today? What's the vision? Because and also 1149 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: helped me understand. So y'all have been around for only 1150 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years now two years? Right, how did 1151 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: you get this far so quickly? Is this full time 1152 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: for you guys? Because I and listen, I you know, 1153 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: Tip and I had done the show for six years. 1154 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: It's not our it's not our sole focus the podcast. 1155 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: We each have our own things. But but for people 1156 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: who are looking at y'all and saying like, oh, they 1157 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: have a podcast, they made it. This is their empire. 1158 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: Talk about where you guys are at. Is this is 1159 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: this your sole venture now? Or if y'all quit your 1160 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: day jobs and this is it y'all putting all the 1161 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: cards on the table and what's the vision, what's the 1162 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: vision for for eyl Yeah, I. 1163 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 7: Mean I'm still I'm still a practicing financial advisor, but 1164 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 7: that takes up less and less on my time these days. 1165 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 7: And you Alidia takes up probably ninety five percent of 1166 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 7: my time. 1167 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 3: And Troy, Yeah, Andrelius is my life, my life. Yeah, 1168 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 3: So I don't work for I always. I still educate. 1169 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 3: I just educate in a different medium now, Coach Troy, Yeah, 1170 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't belong to a school district. I 1171 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 3: belong to the world. 1172 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 7: But how we how we was able to grow so fast, 1173 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 7: it's a couple of different things. Teamwork, you know, we 1174 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 7: have a strong team. Shot to Mike's shot out to Ban, 1175 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 7: shout out to Jamal, shout out to everybody that's a part. 1176 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 7: It's not just us. People see us, but it's more 1177 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 7: to it than that. And then we learn. We learn 1178 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 7: a lot. You have to learn very quickly in this 1179 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 7: world that we're in right now. Things move so quickly 1180 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 7: that you have to pick up the information to be 1181 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 7: able to process it on the go. So just being 1182 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 7: around so many entrepreneurs, our friends and things of that nature, 1183 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 7: and we established strong relationships. So like you know, even 1184 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 7: you know, we could have just probably did a stock 1185 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 7: show ourselves, but it's like that's a lot of work. 1186 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 7: So it makes sense for us to partner with Ian 1187 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 7: where he obviously does this all the time, like you 1188 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 7: know what I mean, this is what he does. So 1189 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 7: now it's less work as far as for us just 1190 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 7: making a whole nother show just by ourself, but we 1191 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 7: just we're still a part of it. So that's a 1192 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 7: strategic alliance. And a lot of times, you know, people 1193 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 7: look at like they want to do everything themselves. They 1194 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 7: want me to start everything. They want everything, Like you 1195 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, You're only going to go so 1196 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 7: far that by yourself, No matter what, you're only going 1197 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 7: to go so far by yourself. You go a lot 1198 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 7: further with it a team, and you go a lot 1199 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 7: further by helping people too. That's you know, we try 1200 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 7: to even with the podcast net Worry, that's us helping people. 1201 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 6: The only person that had a podcast already was Dave Chance. 1202 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 7: Shout out to him, but you know, Ash Cash, he 1203 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 7: wanted to come because he's like he sees the value, 1204 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 7: you know, like you know what I'm saying, he didn't 1205 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 7: have a podcast. 1206 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 4: I was the first one, I was like, hey, uh 1207 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 4: for y'all take off from I've never tem like hey man, 1208 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 4: before we get busy. 1209 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: You know. 1210 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 7: I think that's important for entrepreneurs to keep in mind 1211 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 7: that the more people. It sounds cliche, but it's true, 1212 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 7: the more people that you help, the further that you 1213 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 7: will go. 1214 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: Was the message that really hit me when y'all were celebrating. 1215 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: What was it, did y'all get number one of business wait? 1216 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: Number one of all podcasts? 1217 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 3: Y'all head business business podcast? 1218 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Knocked that on that other guy d R. I 1219 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 2: don't we don't even know him around here. 1220 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know right out. 1221 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's not our favor over here. He's so 1222 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,479 Speaker 2: just yeah. 1223 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: So that was But but what you said real quick, 1224 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: what you said during your IG live that night, which 1225 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: I was tuning into, is exactly that it was. You 1226 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: had your friends on and you were talking about how 1227 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: we didn't do this alone. And it struck me because 1228 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: I was talking to a fellow podcaster and she and 1229 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 1: I was telling her because Tiff and I have signed 1230 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: with a new network shout out to Westwood One in February, 1231 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: and that was a big step for us. And I 1232 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 1: remember telling her that we were signing with a network, 1233 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: and the vibe was very much, oh you souldow I 1234 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: want to keep doing this. I just really want to 1235 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: own everything. And I was like, yeah, we've done that, 1236 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 1: and I would also like some help. 1237 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: Now. 1238 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't take maternity leave hardly at all when 1239 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, when we did the show and Tiff and 1240 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 1: I have just been grinding. But yeah, I would love 1241 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about that. So what 1242 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: do you think you have gained, like you know, specifically 1243 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: from those partnerships. Is it? Is it the amplification of exposure? 1244 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it just bigger dollars because now you 1245 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: have more minutes of podcasting that you can sell ads on, 1246 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: Like how does the how does that translate into what 1247 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: people really want to know, like money, revenue and all that. 1248 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 7: I mean for us, more so than our business model 1249 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 7: is a little different than most podcasters because most podcasts 1250 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 7: they make the majority of their money off of ads 1251 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 7: and things of that nature, where you know, ads and 1252 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 7: more like supplement income. For us, we have different like programs, 1253 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 7: products and different things of that nature. How we you know, 1254 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 7: we we attain revenue. So for us, you know, brand exposure, 1255 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 7: you know, and adding value. Once again, it might sound corny, 1256 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 7: but it's true. I feel like the more value that 1257 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 7: we can add, the more valuable we become. So you know, 1258 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 7: everything is not about you know, just making money upfront 1259 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 7: and then there's always there's always money on the back 1260 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 7: end that with a big, big payday come. But for 1261 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 7: us to be completely honest with you about it, we're 1262 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 7: not making a bunch of money off of our podcast network. 1263 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 6: Our podcast network was. 1264 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 7: To grow our brand, to add more value, to grow exposure, 1265 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 7: and to really build those relationships with people. Because we 1266 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 7: feel like, all right now, if we do have a 1267 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 7: strong four or five shows, now, that's that's something that's 1268 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 7: valuable down the line. And you know, how that comes 1269 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 7: to fruition is still to be determined. But it's like, 1270 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 7: if you never try something, you never know. What I'm saying, 1271 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 7: you never know. 1272 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the biggest things with us. 1273 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: It's like there is no fear of any type of failure. 1274 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 3: Failure never comes into our mind. We're just like, we 1275 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 3: want to do something that can help creatives expand their brand. 1276 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 3: Let's do it. We want to see everybody win. And 1277 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 3: it's kind of where when we come into spaces and 1278 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,959 Speaker 3: people are like, wait, y'all don't really want anything else, 1279 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 3: and like, nah, we just want to see you win. 1280 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 3: You win, we win, you know what I mean. And 1281 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 3: when we talk about community, that's what we're building, a community. 1282 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 3: I know, somebody told us, like, a school's only as 1283 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 3: good as as as students that graduate from it, right, 1284 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 3: And so when we look at it, if ash cast 1285 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 3: does well, then the next person who wants to start 1286 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 3: our podcast is like, that's the place to go, right, 1287 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 3: And if Dave Shan does well, that you know what 1288 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 3: I mean. Market Monday's is doing well, we become the 1289 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: place to go. And everything that we do is to 1290 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 3: support each other, right, So, like the goal is to 1291 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 3: like build a brand, help everybody else who was trying 1292 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 3: to build theirs. Expertite that because we've been through it 1293 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 3: for two years. We hit number one, so we know 1294 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 3: what it takes. We're gonna you're gonna you're not gonna 1295 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 3: make the mistakes because we're gonna give you the game. 1296 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 5: Right, we become. 1297 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 3: Mentors in essense. So yeah, I mean we saw a 1298 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 3: brand build non podcasts and then a big payday game. 1299 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 5: Right. 1300 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: So when he's like, yo, we're not talking about upfront money. 1301 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 3: We're talking about the long game. 1302 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 2: Yes, please, let's talk that long Because as someone when 1303 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 2: I started Budgetista, everybody was like, I don't get it. 1304 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: So these things are free? Yes, so you do all 1305 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 2: these lives for free? Yes, so you do all this 1306 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 2: like nobody could like wrap their mind around why. Well, 1307 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: because my intention, just like any teacher's intention, was to teach, 1308 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: to transform, to make my community better. And I understand, 1309 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know I was gonna make money. I was like, 1310 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I did speaking engagements here and 1311 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: there the supplement, but I wasn't really sure about how 1312 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna monetize. But I knew that if you 1313 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 2: build something great, you can and now I will. And 1314 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: I told you, guys, I think this before when I 1315 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 2: first came on Earned your Leisure, we had, like I 1316 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: felt like, the real talk was after we hung up, 1317 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: and I told you, I'm like, please, like you will 1318 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 2: get to a space in a place because of the 1319 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 2: way you're building that The money is the easy part easy, 1320 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, Like it took me probably five or six years, 1321 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, but now I can do something and I've 1322 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: done this and make seven figures in a weekend, So 1323 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't worry about like, you know, but that's when 1324 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 2: you build the way you're building. You're building this solid foundation, 1325 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 2: you're building off of network, you're building off of making 1326 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: sure that everyone is good, that the money will will 1327 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: be like the you'll be able to flip a switch. 1328 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 2: I was telling my sister Tracy, my publicist, Ian's. 1329 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 5: I feel fresh pricks. 1330 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: Because she's building her business and I was telling her 1331 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 2: She's like, oh so much. I was like, yo, Sis, Honestly, 1332 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 2: you will get to point where you realize you are 1333 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the bank. At any moment, I could tap into myself 1334 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: and make money, produce, you know, Like, so not to 1335 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 2: worry so much about that part if you're willing to 1336 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 2: do the work. But I guess my question is, and 1337 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 2: this is a question that I get and I still 1338 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 2: struggle with the answer, is what's the desired outcome? Like 1339 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 2: what are you? 1340 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 5: Like? 1341 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 2: I would love to hear from youw Ian Troy Rashad, like, 1342 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 2: how do you where do you see this going? Today? 1343 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: I had a meeting with my business coach, Shout Out Design. 1344 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 2: I've got several coaches, but he's like my executive business coach, 1345 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 2: and he said, just so you know, you're sitting on 1346 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: a billion dollar business and Zion's not wanted to just 1347 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 2: be blowing smoke up yere behind. And that was just 1348 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 2: like yeah, He's like no, I have speak spoken to 1349 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 2: the SEO guy behind Voldemort and he helped him grow 1350 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: to four hundred and fifty million dollars a year. And 1351 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 2: he was looking at your stuff and was like, oh, easy, 1352 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 2: we could we could get her there. And I was 1353 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 2: like what so, but it depends on what is it 1354 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 2: that I'm wanting. So my question for you is like 1355 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 2: what is it? You know, like, what's the big mission 1356 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 2: five years, ten years from now? What would you love 1357 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 2: to see? 1358 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for us, there's a few different things 1359 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 7: that we're working on. You know, we have an education platform. 1360 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 7: I mean the world is run by education and media. 1361 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 7: If you really think about it, you know, we're controlled 1362 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 7: by media what we see and we're forced to learn. 1363 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 7: Education is something that's not even optional. Like if you 1364 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 7: don't go to school as a kid, you can get 1365 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 7: arrested in truancy cops. They have cops like just to 1366 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 7: make sure kids go to school. Before COVID. Now COVID 1367 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 7: everything changed. But so I say that to say that's 1368 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 7: like really really the most important parts of life. So 1369 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 7: we have an educational platform called Eyo University. And with 1370 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 7: Eyo University, we really just like kind of made that 1371 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 7: it's not like specific, it's not a real estate school, 1372 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 7: it's not a stock school. 1373 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 6: It's everything. Everything. 1374 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,919 Speaker 7: Every single week is different classes, it's a book club, 1375 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 7: it's a movie club, it's a real estate course. Inside 1376 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 7: of it, we have investment conversations, all kinds of stuff. 1377 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 7: So we really wanted to give like every single thing 1378 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 7: that you can really you know need as far as 1379 01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 7: personal finance investing and grow that. So now that community 1380 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 7: has well over like nine thousand people something like that. 1381 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 7: So we want to make that like a Phoenix University, 1382 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 7: like bigger than Phoenix University and make that you know, 1383 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 7: rival any any university out there, make it, you know, 1384 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 7: a huge, huge, huge platform, over one hundred thousand students 1385 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 7: with graduations and all kinds of stuff like that, you know. 1386 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 7: So that's something that we are really excited about. We 1387 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 7: want to continue to grow that. And of course the 1388 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 7: media side, you know, for Early Legion, look at Early 1389 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 7: Leasion as a podcast. You know, we have a podcast network, 1390 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 7: but even bigger than that we're a media company, so 1391 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 7: you know, we want to keep growing as a media company, 1392 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 7: produce other shows, and you know, have strategic alliances and 1393 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 7: things of that nature. So now we have a corporate 1394 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 7: for our media division, we have you know, our educational division, 1395 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 7: and then of course there's a bunch of other ancillary stuff. 1396 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 6: We just got, you know, a truck that was. 1397 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Dope, you got a truck. 1398 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're wrapped on like what's the name truck? 1399 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 7: Like a freight truck. Yeah, So you know stuff like that. 1400 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 7: You know, it just comes up randomly. So yeah, the 1401 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 7: other side businesses, opportunities, things to that nature. But yeah, 1402 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 7: those are those are like the also on the immediate 1403 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 7: vision board for us. We don't really have a goal 1404 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 7: to be like the top podcast or something. I mean 1405 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 7: that's cool, but they do. 1406 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 2: Well you already did it anyway, so it's done. 1407 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 4: That's like what Jordan one or third ring here like, 1408 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 4: oh yeah, it means it's. 1409 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 2: It's like you know, like I used to say, like 1410 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: I want to go into Target. You get to go 1411 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 2: to Target one day and you see like I don't 1412 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 2: know a mug and it says like budget needs to approved, 1413 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 2: Like I want to reach that level of like when 1414 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 2: you put your name on something and moves mountains, you know, 1415 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 2: because people have come to trust you that much. I 1416 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 2: just was wondering for you, like, what does that look like? 1417 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 2: What's that kind of like pie in the sky? 1418 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 7: And before I'm gonna let you in, because I'm sure 1419 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 7: he has a crazy vision for what he has going on, 1420 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 7: but I want I want entrepreneurs to be valued the 1421 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 7: same way as sports entertainment things. That's something about something 1422 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 7: that I think is very, very obtainable, and that's something 1423 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 7: that not just for celebrity status, but I think it's 1424 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 7: important because especially in our culture enough forget. We was 1425 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 7: talking to somebody that was extremely high up in the 1426 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 7: music business and he was saying that, you know, he 1427 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 7: used to work at a major, major record label, and 1428 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 7: he was saying that he doesn't let his kids listen 1429 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 7: to rap. 1430 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 6: He's black. 1431 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 7: He doesn't let his kids listen to rap, and he 1432 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 7: used to work at a record label. So why don't 1433 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 7: you let your kids listen to rap? He was like, because, like, 1434 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 7: you know, white kids, the kids listening to rap, they 1435 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 7: know it's entertainment, like they listen to little fill in 1436 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 7: the blank, but they do and they want to do 1437 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 7: for you know, medical school, and then when they graduate 1438 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 7: and it's like, you know, that's just a fat that's 1439 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 7: just a moment in their life. Black kids is listening 1440 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 7: to that, and they think it's a career option, a 1441 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 7: viable career option, and it's hurting a lot of people. 1442 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 7: It's hurt a lot of people. So it's helped a 1443 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 7: lot of people too. But it's also hurt a lot 1444 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 7: of people because there's only so many people that can 1445 01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 7: become professional athletes or professional rappers, but anybody can become 1446 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 7: an investor, stock trader, real estate agent or whatever like 1447 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 7: you know. So I feel like it's important for us 1448 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 7: to champion that. And it's also unproportional, like Rolling Stone 1449 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 7: is big, but forbus it is also big, you know, 1450 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 7: Like you know, Donald Trump was a celebrity, no matter 1451 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 7: how you feel about him, he was a celebrity our 1452 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 7: Cuban and celebrity. Like, where's our celebrity entrepreneurs that has 1453 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 7: nothing to do with sports entertainment. It's not really there. 1454 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 1: I think we're looking at them, I don't know. 1455 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 7: So that's that's that's on the vision board too. To 1456 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 7: kind of push that wave to the point where now 1457 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 7: we have more than just sports and entertainment. 1458 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 3: Yea, I'm gonna take thirty seconds because I know you're 1459 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 3: gonna go. So one of the other things is that 1460 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 3: we come across a lot of businesses and we just 1461 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 3: had this conversation last week about, you know what, becoming 1462 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 3: a holding company for a lot of businesses, right because 1463 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 3: if you look at Shark Tank, it's very similar to 1464 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 3: what we're doing. People are coming in, they're telling us 1465 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 3: our businesses, and we be foolish not to take advantage 1466 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 3: of saying, you know what, let's invest in this and 1467 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 3: eventually potentially, you know, taking out our company public. That's 1468 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 3: something that it crossed my mind with the past mother, 1469 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 3: like when have we ever seen that? How many people 1470 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 3: that we know that look like us have done that 1471 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 3: and you can actually talk to them, And so that's 1472 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 3: something that is heavy on my mind right now, and 1473 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 3: I know it's on shots as well. It's something that 1474 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 3: we're looking definitely to doing in the future. 1475 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 6: EYL private equity. 1476 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you, what's your what's your big big 1477 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 2: goal over the next five years to help two billion people? 1478 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 5: Whether you. 1479 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 4: Think about it like this when you wake up or 1480 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 4: go to bed, you're either thinking about how to make 1481 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 4: money or how to retain it. 1482 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 5: Number one reason people get divorced. Fellows. 1483 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, if you're cute, great, but my grandmother used 1484 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 4: to tell me there's no romance for not finance. Baby, 1485 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 4: you're cute, but you got to get your money, It's true. 1486 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 4: And then also how to keep that's a big thing. 1487 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 4: So even with what they're building at the network, I 1488 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 4: know if I can get them to trust on the 1489 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 4: investment in then how to be disciplined, they'll listen to 1490 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 4: a relationship mental health because the money is just one 1491 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 4: part the thing we were talking about, like even on 1492 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 4: CETA and I'm like, I just want peace. So for 1493 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 4: like me, I have like my golden rules. I'm like, 1494 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 4: don't interrupt me when i'm Wxander my family and friends, 1495 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 4: time is off, Like I don't care what the deal is. 1496 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 4: If I'm w Wasander, that's my too, because I know 1497 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 4: there's going to be a time where he doesn't want 1498 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 4: to be around me. He's going to even now he's 1499 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 4: six and he's like on Easter, he's like, Dad, you 1500 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 4: can't kiss me. 1501 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 5: It's inappropriate. I'm like, I'm your dad, what do you mean? 1502 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 5: So I'm like at nine, I'm like. 1503 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 4: I can't even go with you to the park at 1504 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 4: that point, So I'm like, I want to have all 1505 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 4: those moments. But let's be honest, like corporate was designed 1506 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 4: to take us away from our family and control our time, 1507 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 4: so we wouldn't have time to think about how to 1508 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 4: build our own thing. Not anti corporate, I'm not anti school, 1509 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 4: but even the way people are taught to communicate it 1510 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 4: is a non wealth based strategy. So I would just 1511 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 4: want to help as many people as possible, because let's 1512 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 4: be honest, Like COVID posed the way that we work wrong, 1513 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 4: the way that we picked our relationships wrong, because a 1514 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 4: lot of people decided, Hey, John, who I'm with now? 1515 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 4: John Henry, kudos guy, But John that I'm with, I 1516 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,679 Speaker 4: don't like him as much because now that I'm spending 1517 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 4: five hours a day with him, I don't like him 1518 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 4: as much. And then we need more time with our kids, 1519 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 4: more times with our friends and family. So that same 1520 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 4: thing that Rashad was saying, and me being around my 1521 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 4: dad and having that kind of freedom, you know, I 1522 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,919 Speaker 4: know Dame Dash gets beat up for how he delivers, 1523 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 4: but my dad was like that, and so was my 1524 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 4: granddad because he was in the military. My dad was like, 1525 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 4: your number one goal has to be freedom. Everything else 1526 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 4: is an illusion. If you have a bunch of time 1527 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 4: and no money, what difference does it make. So that's 1528 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 4: my goal to be able to help structure that and 1529 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 4: help people to get better returns in the market. 1530 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that leisure is in the title of 1531 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: the show. I don't feel like y'all know how to 1532 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 1: take us like it sounds like y'all work real hard. 1533 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,440 Speaker 5: Alcoholics. 1534 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: How leisure? 1535 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 7: I feel like, I feel like, you know, I'm a 1536 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 7: very appreciative person and as far as like little things 1537 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 7: in life, like just being able to wake up whenever 1538 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 7: you want, you know, that's a blessing, and it's like, 1539 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,600 Speaker 7: you know, we you know we I was with my 1540 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 7: son yesterday in scallops and lobster. You know, we really 1541 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 7: blessed to be able to eat scallops and lobsters and 1542 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 7: clans and things of that nature, and we really are 1543 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 7: like little things like that. For me, that's that's leisure 1544 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 7: because I know people that are starving and some people, 1545 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 7: you know, have to wake up at four point thirty 1546 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 7: in the morning and they work until you know, one am. 1547 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 7: So for me to be able to wake up whenever 1548 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 7: I want, go to sleep, whenever I want, travel whenever 1549 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 7: I want, you know what I mean? Like that thing, 1550 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 7: Little things like that, they don't get lost on me. 1551 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,560 Speaker 7: And sometimes it's just like we have to be appreciative 1552 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 7: of the things that we have because you know, we 1553 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 7: work so much and we compare all live to somebody else, 1554 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,640 Speaker 7: and it's like, all right, of course it would be 1555 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,560 Speaker 7: great to you know, buy island and do all of 1556 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 7: these things. But you know, coming from, like I said, 1557 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 7: working class environments where you see people that you know, 1558 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 7: work their whole life for they have fifty thousand dollars 1559 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 7: and trying to work it out, trying to figure out 1560 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 7: what they're going to do, you know what I'm saying. 1561 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 7: So to be able to have a level of financial 1562 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 7: freedom and to be able to provide for your family, 1563 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 7: we earned that, you know, that's earned, that's earned your leisure. 1564 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 3: That's it right there. I mean what he said is 1565 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 3: one thousand percent truth. For sixteen years, that was me 1566 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 3: waking up, going to school doing the same thing, being 1567 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 3: stubborn about, you know, my financial freedom. And I tell 1568 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 3: it now because obviously I have a bunch of colleagues 1569 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,759 Speaker 3: who's still practicing in education, still teaching, especially in COVID, 1570 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 3: which is extremely difficult. I told him I wouldn't trade 1571 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 3: this for anything, right, The amount of leisure that I 1572 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 3: have now, the ability to wake up and take my 1573 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 3: kids to school, it's something that I never was. 1574 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 5: Able to do, you know. 1575 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 3: Being able to make parent teacher conferences now it's something 1576 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 3: I never was able to do, picking them up from school, 1577 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, being super involved. It's just 1578 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 3: like these little things that you miss out on that 1579 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been able to do it had I 1580 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 3: not earned it this time. So the money is great. 1581 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 3: The ability to have some of these luxuries I call 1582 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 3: them luxuries because not every parent is able to do that. 1583 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 3: It's incredible. And my wife as well, like you know, 1584 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 3: to see her be really frustrated at work and into 1585 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 3: one day say look, you don't have to go back tomorrow. 1586 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 4: That's all the flex to say, baby, don't And can 1587 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,799 Speaker 4: we be honest. Look at our grandparents, Like my granddad 1588 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 4: was in the military. When my grandmother moved from Midway, 1589 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 4: Alabama to Chicago, Indiana, she had to sell pop bottles 1590 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 4: and coat hangers to make money. 1591 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 5: What we're doing is not hard. We're not making steel. 1592 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 4: Like our family that worked in the steel mill still 1593 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 4: there today, the stuff that they go to work in 1594 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 4: the sixteen hour shift. But I took that blue collar 1595 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 4: mid West to work ethic and it just applied it 1596 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 4: to white collar stuff. 1597 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 5: How hard is. 1598 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 3: It to hop on live and talk? 1599 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 5: We like this is like barbershopping beauty songs. Talk like we're. 1600 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 4: Getting paid and getting the chance to influence like so, 1601 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 4: but even like watching them and learning, like even with 1602 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 4: he told you, like, Bro, you got to relax and. 1603 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 5: Travel like COVID. I wasn't. I'm like, I'm not getting 1604 01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 5: the virus. 1605 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:00,719 Speaker 6: I was doctor. 1606 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 5: I got the mask on in the house. I'm not 1607 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 5: going anywhere like. 1608 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 3: Bro, you gotta travel like I want to go in 1609 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 3: the house. 1610 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 4: It's a balance of everything, but to have the time 1611 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 4: to be able to spend. I've been an entrepreneurs since 1612 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 4: I was in college, so before it was popular, and 1613 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 4: then even when you were like because in four or 1614 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 4: five it was like your entrepreneur can't get a. 1615 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Job said nothing. 1616 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,599 Speaker 4: That was a perception, but the world kind of caught 1617 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,640 Speaker 4: up O seven. Then once again, what we're doing is 1618 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 4: now hard. It does take a lot of effort. But 1619 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 4: what I will say about what I think about their 1620 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 4: growth outside looking in because I was a fan of 1621 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 4: them first. The work ethic is insane, Like Allison, the 1622 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 4: message wouldn't get a reply. And then I met them 1623 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, I see why, and I'm 1624 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 4: a workhorse. There's never a time that I talked to 1625 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 4: them there. I'm like, hey, what y'all do. I'm in Miami. 1626 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 5: I'm like, I know y'all getting up with calid Or. 1627 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 3: I said on the show. 1628 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, we do best come up. I know them. 1629 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 4: Rashad's like me too, Rashad luck because we that authoritarian things. 1630 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 4: Whenever someone tells us we can't do something, and it's 1631 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 4: like does this you're in trouble, It's like that next 1632 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 4: chess move is coming right. 1633 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,599 Speaker 1: Y'all are proof positive of that expression. You know, you're 1634 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: the average of like the five people you spend the 1635 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 1: most time with. I was telling my cousin that, I'm like, 1636 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 1: you need to really be picky. You know, quality over quantity. 1637 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: You spend the most time your time with. 1638 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 2: So because they normalize excellence, or they normalize mediocrity, or 1639 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 2: they normalize failure like yeah, you know. I'm like, no, 1640 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was doing something until I spoke 1641 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 2: to well, I don't know if you can put her 1642 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 2: financial business out there so I won't say her name, 1643 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, I try to make fifty 1644 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 2: million this year. 1645 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 5: I was like, what those conversations are different when yeah, I. 1646 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Was like say what while I was like no, Si, 1647 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, we crossed over ten and she was like, 1648 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 2: oh this. I was like that's cute. And I was like, 1649 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,480 Speaker 2: can we talk every week? What you doing on Thursdays? 1650 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 4: The first time I heard that you needed sixty months 1651 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 4: of revenue to be safe and you need a minimum 1652 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 4: twenty eight streams of revenue, I was like what. 1653 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 5: He was like, get there? 1654 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 4: But he opened his phone, hopped and chase and showed 1655 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 4: me and this business and personal it blew my mind. 1656 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and it stands. And a lot of them 1657 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: look like you and so. And what I love is 1658 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 2: that that's why burn your Leisure shows me that they 1659 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,959 Speaker 2: look like me and they sound like like my husband 1660 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 2: because he was born and raised in projects like you know, 1661 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 2: brick City for life. But I love the fact that 1662 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 2: he can look and be like, oh, because he's like, 1663 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 2: what are you listening to? Because you know the rest 1664 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 2: of the stuff he's I want want, want, want, But 1665 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, okay, I could do that, and I'm 1666 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 2: just like, yeah, five more years we need that insurance. 1667 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 2: So but I love that because it never would have 1668 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 2: appealed to someone like him, you know. But he's just like, yo, 1669 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 2: they sound like me, they look like me, like this 1670 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 2: is possible, this is doable. And to see him translate 1671 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 2: that for his boys, because like I'll talk to my friends, 1672 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,680 Speaker 2: but his boys don't listen to me, you know. So 1673 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 2: to see him like, nah, yo, because you guys said 1674 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 2: something for he was like I heard him tell his 1675 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 2: best friend, now you gotta let your assets pay for 1676 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 2: your assets. I was like, oh, where you get that from? 1677 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 2: He was like, oht know that show you'd be having 1678 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 2: to listen. I just thought that was so dope because 1679 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 2: you know New Jersey drive like Newark used to be. 1680 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 2: That was him for years old, like just like stealing cars. 1681 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, just literally used to go to school and 1682 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 2: then on Fridays he said, we didn't steal cars during 1683 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 2: the week because we had to go to school, but 1684 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,600 Speaker 2: on the weekend it was on we were like local celebrities, 1685 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 2: like the old people will bring their tears downstairs and 1686 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 2: just watch us. Like through Newark zip zip and jar. 1687 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 2: We would cut gates to know like okay, if we 1688 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 2: do get caught, we could slip through this gate. So 1689 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,559 Speaker 2: to hear him tell his wild stories, to see him 1690 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 2: this forty year old man who was like, you know, 1691 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 2: working our investment property, talking to our investment like our 1692 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 2: certified planner about like our like our our stocks and things, 1693 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 2: and yeah, you just I just thank you guys what 1694 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 2: you're doing, because I don't know that these men out 1695 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 2: here that need to hear it. But it's not going 1696 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,599 Speaker 2: to be for me that they're gonna like it's gonna 1697 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 2: land or certainly not from everybody else that's out there. 1698 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 2: They have this opportunity to hear it from y'all and 1699 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 2: being like if they can do it, so can I. 1700 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 2: So we just thank you for. 1701 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 3: That, and we definitely listen to you. 1702 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sitting here like yeah, yeah, but also 1703 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: they need to listen they let's normalize listening to Tiffany 1704 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: some toxic masculinity I'm sensing here, but you know, we'll 1705 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: get we'll get there. But Thank y'all so much for 1706 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 1: sharing your positive energy and your passion with us because 1707 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 1: it means a lot. And congratulations on all the success 1708 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: we wish. I mean, I wish nothing, but I want 1709 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: to see y'all. 1710 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 5: I want to see Tip. 1711 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna come in the back. I'm just gonna 1712 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 1: be in the window of your house next time you're 1713 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: on Today Show, just anytime of the day, just pop up. 1714 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 1: Should be on some TV network. 1715 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 2: Care promise, but I am going to be on Today's 1716 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Show on Wednesday when this comes out, and if you know, 1717 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 2: I can keep it concise with you know, that's not 1718 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 2: my thing. But one other thing they asked me was 1719 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 2: one of my favorite podcasts, and let's just say, you know, 1720 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 2: two of them are right here. And I literally just 1721 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 2: text a producer like, no, this is the this is 1722 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 2: the picture. This is the picture to you, so we'll 1723 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: see if you know, because you know how it is 1724 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 2: a TV shows. I believe in that too, that you know, 1725 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 2: like as you go you bring along and so you 1726 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 2: know that's critically important. But yeah, this is this has 1727 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 2: been awesome. I think our audience is going to be like, yeah, 1728 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 2: so where can people find you? What's your social media handles. 1729 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 2: What products and services do you have out how they 1730 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 2: can how can they continue to connect? 1731 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:43,120 Speaker 6: Yeah for sure. 1732 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 7: Thank you again for having us, both of you guys. 1733 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 7: Thank you for your advocacy and the work that you do. 1734 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 6: Earn A. Lisia. 1735 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 7: You can find us on all social media platforms YouTube, 1736 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 7: Earnalisia dot com. 1737 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, earn Alisia podcast. 1738 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 7: Also Market Mondays, which is a live show on YouTube 1739 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 7: at eight o'clock easton Standard time every Monday. Also it's 1740 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 7: on you know, the playback is on YouTube and also 1741 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 7: the playback is also on podcast Networks. At e y 1742 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 7: L University, that's our educational platform which has over one 1743 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 7: hundred webinars, real estate investment course, monthly financial Planning, calls, 1744 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 7: a bunch of stuff. So all that information is on 1745 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 7: e y L University dot com. But the mothership is 1746 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 7: Earning your Leisure dot com. And once again thank you 1747 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,519 Speaker 7: for having us. We appreciate it. 1748 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This was a dream when brought in. 1749 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 2: Where can they find you? 1750 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 4: Instagram? My tag is the Master Investor. You can find 1751 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 4: me my name Ian. Don't lamp on any of the 1752 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 4: social and then join Red Panda dot com is my 1753 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 4: site if you want to join the stock club. That's 1754 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 4: my primary product. I tell you where to get in 1755 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 4: and where to get out, what companies are good, what 1756 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 4: companies are bad. So tiya if you need some help. 1757 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: My cousins are like, stop, get your other names out 1758 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: of your mouth on that. 1759 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 2: Because my girlfriend touched me. She's like, Tiffany, is anybody 1760 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 2: single ready to mingle? Because you know we have our ladies. 1761 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I know, Troy, you are taking. 1762 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 5: I'm taking. 1763 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 3: Hey, don't kill me. 1764 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 5: Don't. 1765 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,720 Speaker 2: I mean like loky. We know they all asking about 1766 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 2: We're just. 1767 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Talking about hypergamy, any hypergamas? 1768 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you single ready to mingle? Or is this 1769 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 2: going to be mad if? 1770 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 6: I no, No, I'm single single? 1771 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 2: Okay, well don't hey, those are his d M. Don't 1772 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,640 Speaker 2: ask me no other questions. 1773 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,799 Speaker 3: I can't believe. 1774 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 2: I got like play. I got literally like ten. DM 1775 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 2: was like, you have an earn your leisure on no 1776 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 2: money questions. I know nothing. I know Ian's taken. I'm like, 1777 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is a question. You can get 1778 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 2: your whole financial life. 1779 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 5: Listen. 1780 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 4: One time I thought Troy said, uh, hello to my wives, 1781 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 4: and you said. 1782 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 5: I was like, bro, it's this when. 1783 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,759 Speaker 3: You get off set. You know what, I went upstairs. 1784 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 3: My wife was like your wives, really, I'm like, there 1785 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 3: won't be another show ever. 1786 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 5: Project. 1787 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 3: Now, when you see us in Greenberg, you know you 1788 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 3: can act like you know, it's okay. 1789 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 1: When I see that, I'm jumping it. Just look, it'll 1790 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: be the hair first to see in the glass all 1791 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: the time. No, but no, we definitely should chat because 1792 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 1: whenever COVID is over, it would be great to meet 1793 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,640 Speaker 1: up and talk about Geberg. I want to see that 1794 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 1: project that Troy. You had a project you said something 1795 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Greenberg History. 1796 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a very enlightening, uh, information that you 1797 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,200 Speaker 3: will learn about a town and how it was built 1798 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 3: and how it was designed and redlining and all that 1799 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 3: I had. I actually had fourteen and fifteen year olds 1800 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 3: do it and what they found was pretty interesting. I 1801 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 3: would love to tell you about it. 1802 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm my day job, I'm chief consumer advocate 1803 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 1: for Ally Financial, So I'll definitely keep y'all in mind 1804 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: if I because we're I just started a couple of 1805 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,560 Speaker 1: months ago. But Tiff notes, I'm looking for all the 1806 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 1: ways that I can spend their moneycers. So yeah, I 1807 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 1: can't wait to meet you guys hopefully one day in person. 1808 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: But thank you so much and Ian, thanks for joining. 1809 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 1: That was a bonus. 1810 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it was. 1811 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 4: I'm honor to I'm happy to be here, and thanks 1812 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 4: to the guys for inviting me. 1813 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,960 Speaker 5: We shot. I'm gonna pray for you. They hit me too. 1814 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 5: Let's tell what you got like. 1815 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,520 Speaker 1: It's a photo of my brother if he's in the background, 1816 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: b A. Listeners are all over. 1817 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 2: Her brother looks exactly like Drake, exactly like. 1818 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Drake, but it's so annoying but thirsty, and it's a pandemonium. 1819 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,760 Speaker 5: The pandemonium. 1820 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. 1821 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 2: All, and it's time to boost break Boost Break. I'm 1822 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 2: really got a high from that interview. It was just honestly, 1823 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 2: it was just awesome and awesome and awesome. We need 1824 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 2: definitely more male energy around here for our well, not often, 1825 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 2: because you know, we like it. We like it here 1826 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 2: with the girls. 1827 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 1: You know it's good. It's good energy, positive male. 1828 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,559 Speaker 2: So not to be a Debbie downer, but I'm gonna 1829 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 2: break today. So what are you going to do. 1830 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:22,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna boost. 1831 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well, do you know what I'll go first because 1832 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 2: we like to end on a high note. 1833 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, bring us down, and I'll bring. 1834 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 2: Us So did you hear about the drama with Rachel Hollis? No, 1835 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 2: so Rachel House is that woman ever like girl wash 1836 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 2: your face a girl? Oh yeah? 1837 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 1838 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 2: So lately, you know, the non brown social media streets 1839 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 2: have been coming for her and some brown as well, 1840 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 2: because she I guess she must have she must have 1841 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 2: been doing a live or whatever, and someone in the 1842 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 2: comments said to her because she had a cleaning lady, 1843 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,600 Speaker 2: was like behind her and someone said, oh, wow, you 1844 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 2: have a cleaning lady, and she said, yes, you know, 1845 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,800 Speaker 2: you know that's my cleaning lady. And then the woman 1846 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,879 Speaker 2: said something while you don't you realize you're really privileged 1847 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 2: as a result, right, And Rachel said, yes, I am. 1848 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 2: And then she was like, well you're really unrelatable as 1849 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,640 Speaker 2: a result, and that exchange in itself like I don't believe. So, 1850 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I have a cleaning lady, Juliana. 1851 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,679 Speaker 2: She's really awesome. But the way Rachel describes her cleaning lady, 1852 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm surprised she didn't understand that people 1853 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 2: were like, no, one's upset about you having a cleaning lady. 1854 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 2: People have cleaning ladies, but she kept referring to her 1855 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 2: cleaning lady as the woman who washes my toilets. Like 1856 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 2: it was almost like, is she purposely trying to be 1857 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 2: demeaning and dismissive. She was like, Yeah, that's the lady 1858 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,040 Speaker 2: she cleans my toilets. She cleaned my toilets. She kept 1859 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 2: saying that. People were like and then she was like, 1860 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 2: she did a video to address the woman who I 1861 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 2: don't know if she's a woman of color or whatever. 1862 01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 2: And she's like, cis which I'm like, oh, which in 1863 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 2: a positive way? Okay if not? She's like, what would 1864 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 2: make you think that I'm trying to live my life 1865 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 2: to be any way relatable. This is her video. If 1866 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 2: you get a chance after we jump off, Mandra. 1867 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 1: How do you have news nuggets? You've been in book 1868 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 1: launch mode. I'm like, I've not been watching the news, 1869 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,719 Speaker 1: like Tiffany has given me news alerts. 1870 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Because I saw someone and posted like on Facebook like 1871 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 2: I never liked her, and I was like, who I 1872 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 2: knew about Rachel Hall? So I looked and I went 1873 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,760 Speaker 2: to look and I saw lovey Rachel Carlisle all my 1874 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,680 Speaker 2: brown face, Nicole Walter. It's like in addressing it, I 1875 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 2: was like, wait, what so I couldn't believe with her 1876 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 2: own mouth, this is Rachel's explanation. She's explaining, so what 1877 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,800 Speaker 2: if I have a woman who watches my toilets? We're like, oh, 1878 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 2: once again, and she's like, what make you think I 1879 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,360 Speaker 2: would want to be relatable to you? I was like, 1880 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,839 Speaker 2: oh once the two and then it just was really bad. 1881 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 2: And then she was like then she listed all these 1882 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 2: women that she claims are not relatable in her in 1883 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,759 Speaker 2: the the comments of her thinking, as if to say, 1884 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 2: somehow she's at that level. Let me list some of 1885 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 2: the women Harriet Tubman, because Rachel Hollis is clearly hurt 1886 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 2: the actual. 1887 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: No white lady. She's a white lady. 1888 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 2: You know she is. No shout out to the white ladies. 1889 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but yes, no, I. 1890 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Mean she listed Harriet's context. 1891 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 2: She listed Marie Curie, I mean, Amelia Earhart frieda callo, like, 1892 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,240 Speaker 2: I mean literally she said, all unrelatable, Oprah Winfrey. 1893 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey, Susie who was shot in the head. 1894 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean, people are like, are you are you comparing 1895 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 2: yourself to these women? Like it is? It is so 1896 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,559 Speaker 2: and the fact that she's still up there, still up here, 1897 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 2: So then what she did was even worse. Instead of saying, 1898 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, what mistake is mine, she blames her team. 1899 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,080 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I made a mistake because my team 1900 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 2: told me. And I'm like, yeah, so it was really 1901 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 2: it was real, really bad. And so my break is 1902 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 2: for I mean, I don't you know, like, you know, 1903 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 2: cancel culture, you know, honestly enough, and I don't you know, 1904 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 2: like needing obviously for her to be canceled. But I 1905 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 2: do think it is important, just like remember what happened 1906 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 2: with my mentee, and I said, you're gonna have to 1907 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,599 Speaker 2: take your lumpsys. I'm not throwing you out the window. 1908 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 2: You know, you know, I know that you made a mistake, 1909 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 2: and you know you compounded that mistake by doubling down. 1910 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,679 Speaker 2: But I still message her, we still talk, I still 1911 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 2: counsel her. But when you mess up, you have to 1912 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 2: stand in it and say I messed up, not oh my, 1913 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 2: you know my you know, my team messed up. Or 1914 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't see what the big deals about me having 1915 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 2: a cleaning lady. Oh something else that she said too, 1916 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 2: which I don't even Sometimes people are so wrapped up 1917 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 2: in their own as people will say they're feeling themselves. 1918 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 2: She said, yes, I have a cleaning lady, and I'm 1919 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 2: lucky to be able to have one. But most of 1920 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: I work my ass off. I'll wake up at four 1921 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and I'm like every mother I know, Like, 1922 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,360 Speaker 2: what do you say? It was? It was this like 1923 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 2: almost like this condemnation of like if you would have 1924 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 2: worked as hard as me, maybe you'd be here, not 1925 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,400 Speaker 2: mentioning that she's married to a Disney executive who is 1926 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 2: very wealthy, but this this this indictment of women that 1927 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 2: if you don't work hard, that's the lefe you get. 1928 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 2: That's just not true, Like you can work really hard 1929 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 2: and do all the things, and I don't know, it's 1930 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,799 Speaker 2: just like remember I said, like I was telling telling 1931 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 2: a man that I work with that he had some 1932 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,479 Speaker 2: unconscious bias, and he said, no, I don't. I said, 1933 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,719 Speaker 2: it's unconscious. That's the way it works. 1934 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: I love how you said that, because I told someone 1935 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 1: at work that I felt like they steamrolled me in 1936 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 1: a conversation because I was presenting something and they just 1937 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: talked over me. My hair is crazy. I don't like 1938 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: being on video. I'm like my proof is on anyway, 1939 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 1: and the response and we still haven't talked, hope anyway, whatever, 1940 01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. I didn't say any names. 1941 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: And response was while you caught me off guard about that, 1942 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 1: and your your comeback with amazing unconscious Yes that means 1943 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't it make sense that you don't know you did? 1944 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll yes, I'm putting high conscious so it's clear 1945 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 2: that she so, I just, you know, a break on 1946 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 2: that kind of judgment, especially amongst women. You know that 1947 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure that woman has a name she you know, 1948 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 2: is she is a you know, your housekeeper or and 1949 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure she has a title, not your toilet bowl cleaner, 1950 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 2: because like, what does that even mean? You know? And 1951 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 2: you working hard is not the only reason why you 1952 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 2: are where you are, because lots of people work hard. 1953 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,200 Speaker 2: Lots of people work hard and they have not been 1954 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 2: met with the same privileges as a result of life, 1955 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 2: just like you know, I know, I've grown up with privileges. 1956 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 2: The fact that I have both my parents, the fact 1957 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,560 Speaker 2: that my father taught me financial education at home, privilege, 1958 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,639 Speaker 2: the fact that at thirty I actually had a bedroom. 1959 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 2: To go back to, the fact that I could live 1960 01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 2: on my sister's house. These are all privileges, and I 1961 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,720 Speaker 2: can acknowledge that and know that, you know, you know, 1962 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 2: these are these are some of the legs up I 1963 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 2: was able to get, you know, to get to where 1964 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 2: I am now. So yeah, that was just a break 1965 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 2: for that kind of like toxic positivity, if that's even 1966 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 2: a thing. Yeah, yeah, so there it's away from Sunday. 1967 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:17,799 Speaker 1: God, I miss everything. 1968 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 2: When I'm missing in a video, Manda, You're gonna be. 1969 01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Like stuffing Easter and Easter eggs and blowing up balloons. 1970 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 1: I started reading a new novel. Actually, that's where I've been. 1971 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I haven't been on my phone very much. I've been 1972 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 1: reading The Parable of the Sewer by Octavia Butler, which 1973 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,760 Speaker 1: is a Yeah, I had heard of her, but I 1974 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 1: hadn't read these books ever. But she's a she's one 1975 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,680 Speaker 1: of the few. She's what what was one of the 1976 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: first black female science fiction writers. But anyway, it's like 1977 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,000 Speaker 1: a it's a female protagonist book. But it's amazing to 1978 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:51,920 Speaker 1: your point about reading fantasy, that's where I wanted to 1979 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: go with my books. But hey, I got good with 1980 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 1: money too, get good with money audio and a book 1981 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 1: form because I like to be able to switch between 1982 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: the two. But no, that's a I just feel like 1983 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,880 Speaker 1: people once people stop being so defensive. And I was 1984 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,600 Speaker 1: actually talking about the same thing with someone in my 1985 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 1: family on a smaller scale, about how recognizing someone else's 1986 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 1: pain it doesn't necessarily it doesn't negate your pain or 1987 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 1: negate your story. And some people react from a place 1988 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,760 Speaker 1: of defense and defensiveness because they get so caught up 1989 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 1: they don't want to acknowledge someone else's pain or someone 1990 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 1: else's story because they are only thinking about themselves and 1991 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 1: almost as if, oh, but if I have acknowledged that, 1992 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 1: then that takes away something that I've earned, and that's 1993 01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,160 Speaker 1: just not true. There's space for everyone's story and everyone 1994 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: so it's it's a scarcity mindset. Again. I feel like 1995 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,280 Speaker 1: that's scarcity, and it's just manifesting itself in someone not 1996 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: wanting to see their own privilege. But AnyWho, let's let's 1997 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 1: be brought us down. Even though I will, I will 1998 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 1: be catching up on that. After we got this call, 1999 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 1: I had the tap open. I wanted to do a 2000 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 1: quick boost because I saw that thing. And you know 2001 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: the actress Sandy Newton, she was in I know her 2002 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 1: from Crash. But I think she was also in UH 2003 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,080 Speaker 1: but the West World West Wing, no. 2004 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,479 Speaker 2: West, something with the West. I do know what you mean. 2005 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,599 Speaker 1: It's with the robots and the Western and I did 2006 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,760 Speaker 1: not watch it, obviously, but she's gorgeous. I know her 2007 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 1: daughter was in the live action remake of Dumbo. I 2008 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 1: don't know why I know that, but it's the thing 2009 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 1: that I know. Sandy Newton she UH recently decided she's 2010 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,559 Speaker 1: going to start spelling her name the way that her 2011 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 1: parents spelled it when she was born. So I actually 2012 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce it. So Sandy has a 2013 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 1: W at the end. It's done. I don't want to 2014 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: say it wrong, but it's Zimbabwe, and I think is 2015 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,840 Speaker 1: the origin of it. I had it open and then 2016 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:43,840 Speaker 1: when we were talking to the ern. 2017 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,640 Speaker 2: Making you call me by my African name, maybe. 2018 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,360 Speaker 1: Well that's why I wanted to bring it up, because 2019 01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,439 Speaker 1: not because of you specifically, but you're not the You're 2020 01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 1: not the first person I've met who has gone by 2021 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 1: a different name of my One of my best friends 2022 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,080 Speaker 1: immigrated here from Vietnam when she was a baby and 2023 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,680 Speaker 1: her name is not her birth name. So and it's 2024 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,439 Speaker 1: an interesting time too. I think, you know, I can't 2025 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 1: believe it was only just a couple of weeks ago now, 2026 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 1: but there was a shooting in Atlanta where six Asian 2027 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:16,880 Speaker 1: American people were murdered, and several of them in the news. 2028 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: When they were reporting on it, they actually weren't putting 2029 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 1: their full names out there. They were or they were 2030 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,599 Speaker 1: they were putting their full names out there, but because 2031 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,240 Speaker 1: they weren't recognizable to I don't know, a Western like 2032 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,840 Speaker 1: an American point of view, they were flipping the names 2033 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 1: backwards or referring to them as only one part of 2034 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,120 Speaker 1: their name when it's really important to have all of 2035 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 1: them together, treating a middle name as if it was 2036 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,120 Speaker 1: a middle name when really it's part of the full 2037 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,840 Speaker 1: name anyway. So yeah, I wanted to boost you know, 2038 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Thandy for standing in her her truth and going back 2039 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,600 Speaker 1: and saying this is who I am. I'm going to 2040 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 1: reclaim my own name and kind of get your thoughts 2041 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: about it from a you know, being Nigerian American and 2042 01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,799 Speaker 1: you've talked about, you know, choosing your name of Tiffany 2043 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: and kind of get your take on that. 2044 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 2: No, I think that's great. I actually did this podcast 2045 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,759 Speaker 2: with with Lovey the other day with for NPR where 2046 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,360 Speaker 2: we talked about that, like how our names define where 2047 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,680 Speaker 2: we were in life? You know. Then if you call 2048 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 2: me Adochi and you're not family, then I'm like, you 2049 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 2: knew me before sixth grade? And I'm like, wait, what 2050 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,599 Speaker 2: do we meet? You know? And if you call me Tiffany, 2051 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,519 Speaker 2: obviously you know me now. But if you call me 2052 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,800 Speaker 2: Tiffany Alice Smith, you know, then it's like, oh, you 2053 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,880 Speaker 2: knew me post marriage. So how our names really helped 2054 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,479 Speaker 2: to define I think that that's beautiful. I tried to 2055 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 2: reclaim my name in college, but I'm not gonna lie. 2056 01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 2: It was brutal to hear people take Adochi so with 2057 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,120 Speaker 2: the Nigerian inflection is Adochi. So my dad would say 2058 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 2: Adoci like so ado Chi Alice right, So even Adochi 2059 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 2: is okay, But I uh, dough Chi. That's it people 2060 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,880 Speaker 2: Adu Like, Honestly, it hurt my heart. And for me, 2061 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,799 Speaker 2: my name is precious. It literally means gift from God. 2062 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 2: And not only is it precious, it's precious because it 2063 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,240 Speaker 2: is also indicative of the dialect of my region or 2064 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:12,120 Speaker 2: we're from. Because Agochi is it's the same as Adochi. 2065 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,559 Speaker 2: But if you're from my region. It's said Adochi I 2066 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 2: actually met and another I've like Harley. I probably met 2067 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 2: two Adochies in my whole life. Someone messages me from 2068 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,040 Speaker 2: Because of them, we can shout out to the unique. 2069 01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 2: She owns that platform which like showcases black excellence. Someone 2070 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,879 Speaker 2: emailed me and her or she messaged me on Facebook. 2071 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,280 Speaker 2: Her name is Adochi. I was like, shut up. She's like, hey, Tiffany, 2072 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,519 Speaker 2: I love you. I'm like, your name, your name is adoch. 2073 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 2: My name is Adochi as well. She's like, what, I've 2074 01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:41,960 Speaker 2: never met another Adoji. Like literally, I've met one other Adoche. 2075 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 2: But I was like her last name, and so to 2076 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 2: meet someone not only because look how special names are. 2077 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 2: Not only because because her name is Adoche. One I 2078 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 2: know she's Nigerian. Two I know she's evil, and three 2079 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 2: I know the region that she's from because her our 2080 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 2: name is dialect based and so I just think that, 2081 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 2: like for Thandy, I'm going to look to see how 2082 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 2: to say her name properly. It's super important because even 2083 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 2: like my my financial planner, her name is Angelie and 2084 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 2: when I first met her, Angelie is this Indian. When 2085 01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,679 Speaker 2: I first met her, I was calling her Angelie because 2086 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 2: that's what that's how it looks spelled. And she allowed it. 2087 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 2: And it wasn't until I was interviewing her for the 2088 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,640 Speaker 2: in Shorance chapter of the book and I was just asking, like, 2089 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, like what's your name, like can you say it? 2090 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,120 Speaker 2: Just because we were recording it, and she's like Angelie. 2091 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,160 Speaker 2: I said, wait, Angelie, how did you say your name? 2092 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,120 Speaker 2: She's like, well, it's like, uh like underrated Angelie. I'm like, 2093 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 2: since it's been two years, She's like, oh, everybody does it. 2094 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 2: I said no, No, from Adoti to Angelie, We'll be 2095 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 2: saying your name correctly. 2096 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know. 2097 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 2: And it was funny because when I take that NPR 2098 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 2: podcast with Lovey, the producer's name was what Angelie, and 2099 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,280 Speaker 2: she was like, you said my name right. But because 2100 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 2: if Angelie did not correct me, then she will too 2101 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,559 Speaker 2: be Angelie and I will go through life not making 2102 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 2: the effort, not knowing like this is your name. 2103 01:36:59,320 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 1: It's special. 2104 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 2: And so no, I just say all that to say 2105 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 2: that I think Fandy doing that is going to allow 2106 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 2: other people to step forward and save me too, especially 2107 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,160 Speaker 2: people from the region of the world that she's from. 2108 01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean she's doing it at a. She's 2109 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 1: obviously very successful as an actor and all of that. 2110 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,600 Speaker 1: But I think you know, when we decided what to 2111 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 1: name our son Rio, Rio Francisco. I know, my husband, 2112 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,960 Speaker 1: Enrique Raphael, he was like, you know, I don't want 2113 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,040 Speaker 1: He really did not like the name Rio. He did 2114 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 1: not want to and he's like, I don't want him 2115 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 1: to be penalized. And to your point, you can tell 2116 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot about about someone by their name sometimes, which 2117 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: is not a good thing in some in some circles. 2118 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: And I was just like, I'm going to name him 2119 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,519 Speaker 1: for the hope the world I hope will exist when 2120 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: he's when he's adult, which is that wherever he's going, 2121 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 1: people will be thrilled to see Rio Francisco on a 2122 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,920 Speaker 1: resume or whatever. Or forget a resume, he won't need 2123 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,080 Speaker 1: one because he'll have his own thing, or you know. 2124 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: But I understand that. I completely understand why you know, 2125 01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 1: you chose your name, and why others I know have 2126 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 1: have decided to not hide that part of themselves, but 2127 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,320 Speaker 1: to shield it, to shield it, yeah, and protect it. 2128 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,479 Speaker 1: And I like the way that you even explain that 2129 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 1: to protect it, you know, so that it was yours 2130 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,760 Speaker 1: and no one could could touch it. I've known your name, 2131 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,519 Speaker 1: I've known your real name since you told me you know, 2132 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: years ago, but I still don't feel like I don't 2133 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: know adoci something about it. It because I've only known 2134 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: you because I knew you as Tiffany first. It feels 2135 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know if I'm allowed to go. 2136 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,240 Speaker 2: If you can say it right, and you will, then 2137 01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 2: yes you are, because I love it means God's gift. 2138 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 2: Like literally, think about what you're saying to me. This 2139 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,120 Speaker 2: is why we're named in this way, Like, think about 2140 01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 2: what you're calling me When you say that, you're literally saying, hey, 2141 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 2: God's gift. Like how beautiful is that? So when someone 2142 01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 2: says it incorrectly or mistakenly, so fine, but like really 2143 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 2: kind of wantonly is not wanting to fix it. I'm like, 2144 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,120 Speaker 2: you're not going to take my name, which means God's 2145 01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,719 Speaker 2: gift and call me anything else other than God's blessing, 2146 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,400 Speaker 2: God's gift. If you can't just say Tiffany, that's fine. 2147 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,080 Speaker 2: Tiffany is fine, you know what I mean, which is fine, 2148 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,960 Speaker 2: And you know I mean, you know it wasn't really 2149 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,800 Speaker 2: my choice, had nine my father made that choice for 2150 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,040 Speaker 2: us and knowing what I know now, would I do that? 2151 01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 4: Now? 2152 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but you know here we are. 2153 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's sometimes it's protective message because, like you'll hear, 2154 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,559 Speaker 2: Love's name is actually not Lovey. That's a nickname you 2155 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,120 Speaker 2: know that she took on because her real name. She 2156 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,320 Speaker 2: found it. She too wanted to protect it and knew 2157 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,360 Speaker 2: that the kids and the teachers whatever they were, they 2158 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,640 Speaker 2: were verbally abusing it. So she was like, no, you 2159 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:35,719 Speaker 2: can just call me Lovey. 2160 01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, well to anyone out there, well you can. 2161 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 1: You don't call me Amanda though, because I don't. I don't. 2162 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in trouble when someone calls me. 2163 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 1: But these parts man, and I know where you know 2164 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,240 Speaker 1: me from. If you call me a Mandra. 2165 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,360 Speaker 2: You did a podcast I love when someone said can 2166 01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:56,800 Speaker 2: you tell me Andra? I could tell they try to 2167 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:57,439 Speaker 2: be in I'm. 2168 01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Like, I get it all the time. No one called 2169 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,640 Speaker 1: me Mandy. It's either well honestly, it's either Mandy with 2170 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,679 Speaker 1: a wire or Mandra, So it doesn't just it's all good, 2171 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, Tiffany, Well, I wonder I was like, I'm 2172 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,840 Speaker 1: just imagining the book cover adoce A. First of all, 2173 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 1: it sounds so good together. Adoce ad adoce a like, yeah. 2174 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,920 Speaker 2: It's so like no, And I honestly, I was so 2175 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 2: excited to have Alicha on the cover because my dad 2176 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,920 Speaker 2: didn't have any sons, and he always you know, in 2177 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,400 Speaker 2: my mind, I thought to myself, it was really important 2178 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,519 Speaker 2: to me that like alich was. Like, I remember thinking, 2179 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 2: I hope I get married. I hope I get married 2180 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,200 Speaker 2: after I write my first book. But I was this 2181 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,360 Speaker 2: is what I was saying when I was little, when 2182 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 2: I realized my dad was not gonna have these sons 2183 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,400 Speaker 2: because having sons and that during culture huge because your 2184 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,720 Speaker 2: name is carried on. And I thought, because even if 2185 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 2: I can't carry his name on, at least the book 2186 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,400 Speaker 2: will have a leech on it and it'll carry on. 2187 01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,360 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, like the consolation prize I 2188 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:54,320 Speaker 2: guess for not having a son. 2189 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Listen, he's fine. I hope your dad knows he's fine. 2190 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,519 Speaker 2: My dad teaches his friends who have sons, like what 2191 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 2: are your sons doing for you? Did they pay off 2192 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,559 Speaker 2: your house? My daughters bring food to me every single week. 2193 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 2: My dad will text me like from Humba eats. I 2194 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:15,719 Speaker 2: would like, so my dad. 2195 01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,200 Speaker 1: Please tell me that they are so gassed, like so 2196 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 1: geeked out about your whole work, like they have not. 2197 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:21,559 Speaker 6: My mom says. 2198 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 2: She says, she is the president of my fan club. 2199 01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 2: Told me I'm the president of your fan club. I'm like, 2200 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't have one. You have one. I was like, oh, 2201 01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,720 Speaker 2: She's like she has decided that all the sales are 2202 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 2: as a result of her. You know, I've told everybody, 2203 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you have sales. I mean not to say 2204 01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 2: it's me, but it's me. 2205 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 1: My face hurts. I feel like I've been smiling for 2206 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,920 Speaker 1: two hours, just like between you and the earl, I'm 2207 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 1: like massaging my es like that's so. 2208 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,320 Speaker 2: We are we going to share this video? Are we 2209 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,400 Speaker 2: going to do a little I don't know. 2210 01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,240 Speaker 1: I would fix my hair if we are, because I 2211 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,680 Speaker 1: just keep looking. I'm just falling apart. I'm sure we're 2212 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 1: going to share it, yes, on our YouTube page, but 2213 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,720 Speaker 1: probably exists. I will find out. 2214 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 2: We should do bonus like bonus bonus, because I feel 2215 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 2: like some of sometimes it's just it's just worth it 2216 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 2: to have, like the little bonus video. So you guys 2217 01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,439 Speaker 2: can go check it out. 2218 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,759 Speaker 1: You can see the zen Den and Tiffany's beautiful little 2219 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 1: corner of her fabulous office. Every glimpse into your house, 2220 01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like I wish I want. 2221 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,360 Speaker 2: No, No, this is the one place. So you'd be like, 2222 01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,679 Speaker 2: this is I this is the only this little box. 2223 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,640 Speaker 2: Everything else is trashed, but house is gorgeous. I'm always like, 2224 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,760 Speaker 2: whoa more please, I'm like, weal move so I can 2225 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:30,639 Speaker 2: see these cabinets. 2226 01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,559 Speaker 1: Well, when we are back open, we're all vaccinated. You 2227 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: and the earn your leisure guys will have to have 2228 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 1: a little party in Giberg. Yeah all right, my dear, 2229 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,000 Speaker 1: all right, go forth and keep killing it. I can't 2230 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: wait to see you on all the things. 2231 01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 2: You as well, man, all the things. 2232 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'd be out there all right. Seriously, my 2233 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:18,280 Speaker 1: face hurts time. H