WEBVTT - Valuable ATLien Money Lessons #404

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're discussing a t l en money lessons. Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>So the four oh four, I feel like that might

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<v Speaker 1>just be a Georgia thing, but everybody in Georgia, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in Atlanta knows at the four or four that's Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our area code, but it's I mean it's specific

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<v Speaker 1>to like in town Atlanta, Like that's that's an area

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<v Speaker 1>code that you can't get outside of the perimeter. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's kind of like this badge of honor. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a four or four phone number, you've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got the bragging rights that you live in town.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly mine that what I was gonna ask, because I

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't know your phone number because it's just saved

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone, but I liked out scored a four

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<v Speaker 1>or four number. I don't know, maybe like fourteen years

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<v Speaker 1>ago something like that. But because this is episode four

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<v Speaker 1>or four, we decided to have a little fun with

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<v Speaker 1>us one have an Atlanta themed episode, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kind of take a tour throughout Atlanta's history and our present,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna glean some different money lessons that we

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<v Speaker 1>think we can take from those historical events things we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about and apply them to our lives, apply

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<v Speaker 1>them to your lives. You're gonna learn some cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about Atlanta in this episode hopefully that you're into, but

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<v Speaker 1>also with that, you're gonna learn some cool stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>money based on some of those Atlanta trivia, the nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna throw out there. So absolutely, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, man, I wanted to clearly mention that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked not too long ago, we had

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about credit cards and just like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the perks that you might be missing, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we mentioned in that episode is that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the way people spend on a credit card, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little there's a little bit less friction and um

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<v Speaker 1>spending with cash, you you feel like you're parting with

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<v Speaker 1>something valuable and so you put a little more meaning

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. Well, we had a listener that reached out

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<v Speaker 1>listener Josh, and he said, it's actually interesting that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a generational divide that younger folks actually think of

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<v Speaker 1>spending dollar bills as being free money, Like they think

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<v Speaker 1>of that in a different way than to think of

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<v Speaker 1>putting money on their credit card or paying with like

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<v Speaker 1>Google pay or something like well, specifically because they've grown

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<v Speaker 1>up not really interacting with physical cash. And I totally

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<v Speaker 1>get that. He shared, like some TikTok videos that we're

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<v Speaker 1>lightening of, just like some of the younger folks being like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this doesn't cost me any money because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>paying with green bags. Well, it also depends on how

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy you are with it, right, because, like I totally

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the sentiment. I understand that feeling of if

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<v Speaker 1>you have, like I don't know, a five dollar bill

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<v Speaker 1>or a twenty something laying around in a in a drawer, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't accounted for that money, well I canna

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<v Speaker 1>stick that my pocket, go out later on and buy

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<v Speaker 1>some drinks. In that way, it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a gift card. It's it was just sitting there. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't using it for anything else. However, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>does come down to how well you track your money,

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<v Speaker 1>because in my household, there is no money just laying

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<v Speaker 1>around because every dollar that has entered our house has

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<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere and we've accounted for that. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if we had taken some cash out for some odd reason,

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<v Speaker 1>which we never do, but if we had, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a record of that. And so like in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand that sentiment that it feels like it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess if you're not keeping up with your

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<v Speaker 1>money very closely, maybe yeah, it feels even more free

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<v Speaker 1>because you haven't accounted for that. Well, I can say

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, it's like, no, that's just money that

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<v Speaker 1>I've withdrawn at some prior point in time, or that's

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<v Speaker 1>money that we've received as a gift that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've accounted for with you know, on our spreadsheets. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all been tracked, and so in my mind it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel free at all. Yeah. I mean I can see

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<v Speaker 1>where he's coming from, though, because, like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, we sold something on Facebook yard sale and

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<v Speaker 1>it was for a few hundred dollars, and we're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do with this money? Um, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of found money to a certain degree. You know. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saving up to buy some new things to put

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<v Speaker 1>in our house, and so we're kind of allocating it

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<v Speaker 1>towards that, but once it's cash in a drawer, it's right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand that mentality that cashion a drawer can

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<v Speaker 1>take on a different psychological meaning, And I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of found that inter saying like that was a point

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<v Speaker 1>counterpoint there where like it's not necessarily And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that that actually Josh mentioned too was there's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a lot of friction when it comes to him

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<v Speaker 1>paying with the card because he has like three different

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<v Speaker 1>types of alert set up. And so I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good recommendation too for folks who do find

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<v Speaker 1>that they're spending on a credit card feels too easy

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<v Speaker 1>and that they're overspending by doing so, Yeah, maybe set

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<v Speaker 1>up multiple different alerts on your phone or like an

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<v Speaker 1>email alert so that you kind of go in your

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<v Speaker 1>inbox and you're like, dang it, yeah, that's right, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta log that, um, and so that it feels a

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<v Speaker 1>little more tangible, a little more real. It's another way

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<v Speaker 1>that it registers that you actually made that purchase, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to because it's not more friction when you get

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<v Speaker 1>a text, it's just another notification. It's just another voice saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you just spend some money. You feel it a little more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I would suggest to you though, regarding you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling some stuff and you're saving up to buy

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<v Speaker 1>some some things once you'll get done with the home renovation.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume maybe some furniture, some things like that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it like some rugs, rugs, definitely that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if that was me, what I would do,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take that money. And obviously cash is fungible.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say I got twohundred bucks sitting there, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take that two hundred bucks, and I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>withdrawal twounter bucks from our grocery budget for that month,

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<v Speaker 1>and then use that cash to go to our our

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<v Speaker 1>grocery budget. And that two deduction from our grocery budget

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<v Speaker 1>then goes to a two addition to the furniture category

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<v Speaker 1>or the furniture bucket, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how you do your finances. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I want to encourage folks the

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<v Speaker 1>nickel and diming of money in that way. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>it can be a way that you could see more

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<v Speaker 1>money leave your possession without you realizing it. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you assign names to it, it's like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that money he has an assignments. You know, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>those dollars over there, those ladies, they're gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>purchase us a new couch here pretty soon. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where that money is supposed to go,

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<v Speaker 1>because if not, it'll leak like a sieve out of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. I like that. All right, let's keep moving

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Let's mention the beer that we're having on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. This one is called Siberius Maximus. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth anniversary brew by Wrecking Bar brew pub right down

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<v Speaker 1>the street from us. Of course, this is an Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>themed episode. You had to have. Course, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>have a delicious Atlanta beer in Atlanta brew absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>this one in particular is a very special beer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to sharing this one with you and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it at the end of the show. Sounds good, man,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it. But let's get into this, Mat.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about a t L in money lessons um.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, a t aliens. If folks don't know outcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look that up later. But that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>named this one ten even if you should know that. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the interesting thing is Matt like we

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<v Speaker 1>can all learn lessons in unintended places, right. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there are always things around us, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>learn if we just kind of open our eyes a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, for instance, like going through the depths

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID insanity last year. You know, fall was even

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<v Speaker 1>currently currently like our writing, you know, our third graders

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<v Speaker 1>are home doing virtual learning because of positive delta variant

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<v Speaker 1>cases at school. And I'm just like, we aren't out

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods. I mean, we're still dealing with us

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're fully vaccinated and we're ready to move

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<v Speaker 1>on with life exactly. It's frustrating. But I remember distinctly

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<v Speaker 1>last fall, when things were tough and pretty much everything

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen off of my calendar. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot more free time. And I remember those days,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we didn't necessarily realize, or we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>said that we thought we needed more family time together.

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<v Speaker 1>But as our normal rhythms kind of eroded away because

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<v Speaker 1>of coronavirus, I think we quickly learned the lesson that

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<v Speaker 1>actually we didn't need more time together, that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a positive thing for our family. Um, But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson that we didn't know that we needed to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say similarly, since we're on episode four

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<v Speaker 1>or four, and since, like you said, that's the area

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<v Speaker 1>code of our home city, today is the perfect time

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<v Speaker 1>for us to talk about some money lessons that we

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<v Speaker 1>associate with our hometown, kind of pull out some of

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<v Speaker 1>those historical and cultural nuggets from you know, the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>city in the South, let's be honest, Sorry, Birmingham take

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<v Speaker 1>a back seat, or even Miami. Well, Miami is not

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<v Speaker 1>the South, it's Florida. Yeah, that's a completely different beast.

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<v Speaker 1>So Atlanta definitely the coolest city in the South. Different country.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some helpful stuff we're gonna talk about today

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<v Speaker 1>that are all about the four or four Yeah. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you can get four or

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<v Speaker 1>four numbers anymore. I think they ran actually ran out,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think that's why I had to

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<v Speaker 1>settle for six, seven, eight years and years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Uh, you know, this kind of actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think back to when I first went off to

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<v Speaker 1>be a summer camp counselor during my summers off in college.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of mentioned learning lessons and unintended places, and

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<v Speaker 1>so one of the main reasons I went off to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, work as a camp counselor at a boys adventure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, summer camp. First of all, my buddy Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, you need to go work there because

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a lot of fun. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that sounds like I'm down with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>also to to make a little bit of money, a

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<v Speaker 1>very small small amount of money. Camp counselors aren't rolling

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<v Speaker 1>in the down absolutely not. But one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>lessons I absolutely learned, and it just stood out to

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<v Speaker 1>me how much of this I was doing was the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to learn how to teach and connect with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Up until that point, I hadn't really worked much with youth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I grant I was in college at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>barely even in college as well, so I wasn't all

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<v Speaker 1>that old myself. But even still working with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six to sixteen year old boys specifically and being outside

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<v Speaker 1>and hiking and teaching them how to survive, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go camping and different things like that, not

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<v Speaker 1>only was I learning a ton about the outdoors, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was learning how to communicate, how to teach children,

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<v Speaker 1>how to work with kids, And that wasn't something that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to learn. I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>the time writing at one point saying, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm ready to have kids. I'm like twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old or something like that, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my dad's less daunting to you after after that, man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that was a very juvenile statement. It's a state. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more that goes into raising kids than

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<v Speaker 1>just being able to entertain them, you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks over the summer. But this is again

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna be doing today, and we're gonna discuss

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<v Speaker 1>some of these different personal finance lessons. Uh. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come to us in these historical events. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come packaged in history, but they're certainly applicable to our

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<v Speaker 1>personal finances. We definitely do love our city and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear why during this episode, but you also learn some

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<v Speaker 1>important financial lessons. Yeah. So all right, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most famous historic things it's ever happened

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<v Speaker 1>to our city, and that was in eighteen sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>when General Sherman. Let's start Atlanta to the ground. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start at the beginning. It's it's started like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most saddest moments in Atlanta history. Right, more than

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<v Speaker 1>like three thousand buildings were destroyed when that happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was only General Sherman's first destructive stop as he

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<v Speaker 1>began his famous March to the sea, right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>led him and his troops all the way to Savannah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like three and a half hour drive from here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a long march, right. But this awful event

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone living near the destruction really actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>led to a renaissance of sorts in Atlanta is actually

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<v Speaker 1>like forever kind of tied to the bird, the Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like uficial mascot. Yeah, it's like on

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<v Speaker 1>all of the government buildings, like it's on the letter

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<v Speaker 1>head all that kind of Yeah. And and and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>because like our city rose from the ashes after this

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<v Speaker 1>burning to rebuild um and to retain relevance in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, the first a T L Financial leson

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna cover today is that no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>bad the devastation is, you can always recover, just like

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<v Speaker 1>it landed did in the d That's true. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>never so bad that you can't find a way to rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>Another takeaway from this defining historic moment is that being

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<v Speaker 1>properly insured it's crucial. We talked in depth about insurance

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<v Speaker 1>products that folks should really consider getting back an episode

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty three will link to that in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>But not having the right kind of insurance when terrible

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<v Speaker 1>things happen, when the disastrous strikes, can turn a hardship

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<v Speaker 1>into tragedy. And so whether that's having just the proper

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<v Speaker 1>health coverage and getting life insurance or making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got renters insurance if you don't own the place

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<v Speaker 1>where you're living. So again, we want to encourage folks

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<v Speaker 1>that you can always rebuild. And sometimes, man, I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you find yourself in a massive hole of debt

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<v Speaker 1>and it only seems like you're digging yourself deeper and

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<v Speaker 1>deeper sometimes, and we don't talk about this often, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes bankruptcy could be the best path moving forward. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it takes essentially burning your financial world down to the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in order to to kind of start fresh and

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<v Speaker 1>move forward. And so again that's that's something we often

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. But given your circumstances, that might be the

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<v Speaker 1>right option for you. Again, before you just pull the

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<v Speaker 1>trigger on that you're gonna want to talk to a

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<v Speaker 1>not for profit debt counselor you know, we we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>to people that work for like the National Foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>Credit Counseling or Money Management International on on the show before.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to those in the show notes. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like get some counseling. And in fact, Matt, like, my

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<v Speaker 1>parents declared bankruptcy when I was a kid, and their

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<v Speaker 1>financial situation is great now, and like that was an

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<v Speaker 1>almost traumatizing experience, Like that was a really difficult time

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<v Speaker 1>in our family's life. But it just goes to show

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<v Speaker 1>that no matter you know, how bad things are, you

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<v Speaker 1>can rebuild. Um. So I think that is an important lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to another just exactly and now we're kicking butt,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and so let's get to you. Yeah, just another

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<v Speaker 1>another money lesson from the A t. L is And

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<v Speaker 1>this one is time is valuable. Right. The commute times

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<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta are notoriously terrible. There some of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst in the country. We actually rank sixth in the

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<v Speaker 1>worst commutes around the country, and the average commute time

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<v Speaker 1>is about thirty two minutes. You know, most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>factor that god awful commute into their decision making, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least not nearly as much as they should. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not just talking about the cost of commuting.

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<v Speaker 1>The car, the gas, the insurance, like, those are all

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<v Speaker 1>factors that you need to take into account, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, yeah, I'll take that higher paying job that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to involve an extra thirty minute commute. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna involve you know, more aware and tear on my car,

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<v Speaker 1>more gas. Uh. Well, we'd obviously love for you to

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<v Speaker 1>find cheaper ways to commute, but the biggest thing actually

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<v Speaker 1>worth considering is how much time that commuting rips out

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. So yeah, that's the one lesson we

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<v Speaker 1>can learn from looking around at our city. So many

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<v Speaker 1>people stuck in their cars, and it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>many of them are wasting the most precious resource. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not money, it's their their time that they're spending stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the car more than they should be. Let's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes folks will say time is money, and in some

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<v Speaker 1>cases that's true, but actually time is more valuable than

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<v Speaker 1>money because you can always earn more money down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>but time in once those minutes, once those hours are gone,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot get those back, And so we want folks

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<v Speaker 1>to consider more than just how much house they can afford, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like we're talking about like picturing somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about purchasing a home out in the burbs, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the further you move out of the major city,

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes the more prices will drop per square foot on average.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can get a really big house in the

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<v Speaker 1>excerpts of Atlanta, for you know, the price of a

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<v Speaker 1>much smaller home that would keep you closer to your job.

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<v Speaker 1>But do this first, consider the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 1>you spend in a vehicle getting to and front work

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<v Speaker 1>and jump man not just work too, but to and

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<v Speaker 1>from friends, uh, like the store, you'd go to other

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<v Speaker 1>places that you like to visit. You might find that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a serious amount of time that's gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>out of your life that you're gonna spend in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>So we would encourage folks to strive to live in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where you're not going to be stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>heaps of traffic every day. Give meets a really stressful

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<v Speaker 1>and they can take a toll on your mental health,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Or here's another alternative. At least consider car pooling.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be a way that you can reclaim some time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're wapping with somebody taking over the duties of

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<v Speaker 1>driving to work every day, oh they're driving, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be working or at least, you know, reading a book

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<v Speaker 1>being somewhat productive, popping the headphones, close your eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a podcast. Uh. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks do. They might have no commune at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you are working from home, uh. And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's great. But to anyone who is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>commute back to their job, look for a way to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue full time working from home or to get closer

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<v Speaker 1>to your job. So I think another takeaway when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to thinking about traffic here in Atlanta too, is

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<v Speaker 1>just the hidden costs of everything. This is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a topic we've touched on before, but everything every action

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<v Speaker 1>we take, whether it be an expense or something we

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<v Speaker 1>choose to do, oftentimes they're hidden costs associated with them.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only are there hard monetary costs, but it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a drain on your time as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. And yeah, I think one other thing when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about traffic. The solution that we've always looked

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<v Speaker 1>to in Atlanta and sadly so is you just pour

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<v Speaker 1>more asphalt right to create more lanes of traffic. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, like when you look at studies, adding more

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<v Speaker 1>lanes doesn't actually really ever fix the problem. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>at best it's an incredibly short term solution. Well, what

0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it does it encourages more people to I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>study showing that more. Like you put another lane down

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, people like, yeah, all right, I'm gonna drive

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<v Speaker 1>some more. The amount of cars that take that route increases. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, quickly we're back to the same problem

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<v Speaker 1>that we had before, which is just clogged roadways. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the belt line is actually the hottest word associated with

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta right now. It's changing the face of our city

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's really doing so really quickly. It's this

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<v Speaker 1>glorified giant sidewalk that's making basically connecting all of in

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<v Speaker 1>town Atlanta, and it's making it just so much easier

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<v Speaker 1>to commute in an alternative way if if you live

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<v Speaker 1>and work in town. So that's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where it sometimes it takes a creative solution instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious one. It takes thinking outside of the box.

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<v Speaker 1>And not just doing what we've always done. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think when it comes to our finances, sometimes we just

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<v Speaker 1>keep repeating, we keep making the same mistakes over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, we keep doing things the way we've always

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<v Speaker 1>done them, and instead maybe it's time to try something different. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And Yeah, for instance, when it comes to Atlanta at

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<v Speaker 1>the belt Line, I've seen so many more bite commuters

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<v Speaker 1>in our town because of it. Like, it really is

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<v Speaker 1>making a big difference in how people feel about living

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<v Speaker 1>in the city and how people are able to navigate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's important to note that sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>takes thinking just a little bit differently in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get the most beneficial results. Yeah, and so like it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me think of expenses, right, and so if you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I gotta cut my expenses, you can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tighten the belt and try to reduce the

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<v Speaker 1>amount that you're spending out at the grocery store every month.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've set that budget amount to an unrealistic number,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the end, you still have to go and

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<v Speaker 1>buy groceries because you have to eat in order to survive. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe a more effective creative solution would be to

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<v Speaker 1>get a roommate, Like, that's not something that I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes people think, Okay, this is a way I can

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<v Speaker 1>cut my expenses, but that is a way to effectively

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the amount of money that you're spending every single month,

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<v Speaker 1>or even like, when it comes to earning more money,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me think about somebody who's like, Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna work a little bit overtime, I'm on clock

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<v Speaker 1>some more hours, when instead, I think the more creative

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<v Speaker 1>solution that could lead to better results would be entrepreneurship.

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<v Speaker 1>Think through what it is that really gets you excited

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<v Speaker 1>if you are in a job that you don't necessarily love.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of continuing just to work a little bit longer

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<v Speaker 1>or working harder at your current nine to five, look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of these other ways that you can generate

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<v Speaker 1>some income. Yeah, it's amazing how sometimes just a simple

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<v Speaker 1>shift in mindset can really change our outlook on the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of creativity thrown into your personal

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<v Speaker 1>finances can go a long way. That's right. Well, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got yeah, some more tips to get to based on

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite city, our hometown. They we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter. We're gonna talk about the braves. All of

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<v Speaker 1>our I feel like all of our favorite tips are

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<v Speaker 1>later in the episode. Yeah, alright, so we get to

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<v Speaker 1>all those right after this. Alright, we're back and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about different A t Alien money lessons that we

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<v Speaker 1>can learn from our city and Joe. You know, compared

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of other large metropolitan cities across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is surprisingly affordable for what it has to offer.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got sixteen fortunate five foundry companies based here. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if you knew that, a little little braggadocious

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<v Speaker 1>big business. Which which one is the top earning? My

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<v Speaker 1>guest is home DEEPO, But I'm not sure it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be. It's probably not Coke. I mean, Coke's huge,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think they're making as much money as

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<v Speaker 1>from deepots been crushing. It's probably not doubts either, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're I feel like they've been hurting. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>airlines have slim margins regardless. The cost of living in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is roughly lower than it is in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>in fifteen percent less than it is in Chicago. But

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<v Speaker 1>even still, opportunity abounds here in the A t L.

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<v Speaker 1>The best opportunities aren't always in the biggest cities like

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and New York City. And plus there are

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<v Speaker 1>the added difficulties of moving to a high cost of

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<v Speaker 1>living area. Even by earning more, you might still be

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<v Speaker 1>getting like the short end of the stick, basically compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the lifestyle that you could afford in other parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the country in a in a lower cost of

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<v Speaker 1>living area with the more reasonable salary. Yeah. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember talking to somebody recently and they moved to l

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<v Speaker 1>a um for they got a substantial race to move

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But I was like, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just thinking to myself, when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living out there, my guess is he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to up his lifestyle very much at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's really, uh, he's making more of a lateral

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<v Speaker 1>move in terms of like income to expense ratio um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it is important to think about that. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those places where there's a ton of opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>but the costs are lower. Like you said, so you

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of bang for your back here and

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, you do, you do? And so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I feel like, uh, part of the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is to convince our listeners to move to

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta because it's that wonderful and it's going to save

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<v Speaker 1>you money. But anually close to us exactly, Yeah, we

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.119
<v Speaker 1>can hang out whatever you want to go get beers

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I think the other lesson from this too

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<v Speaker 1>is to not just go with the name brand. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just assume that the highest paying jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>the best quality of life is going to be found

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the you know, top five cities in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. But yeah, when we're talking about something on

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller scale, take a little deeper, right, Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the name brand always the right move? I mean, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it is clearly better, or there's a better warranty associated

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<v Speaker 1>with it, um or it's just more long lasting, like

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<v Speaker 1>when if you buy that product, you're gonna use it

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years as opposed to but yeah, will the

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<v Speaker 1>store brain equivalent suffice instead? Will you know a cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>alternative be better for you? Um? I think yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's how I think about that. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>always the most expensive thing. That is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>right move, and so doing your research, doing your due

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<v Speaker 1>diligence can help you potentially save money by buying a

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<v Speaker 1>product that that's actually better for you the cost less. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to diapers, Atlanta as Aldi in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City is Huggies. We talked easily about just the

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<v Speaker 1>rising price of diapers, and I mean Aldi is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those low cost stores. I mean, anybody listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show for any length of time know that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I we love Aldi, we love Legle, we love Costco,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have the opportunity to buy diapers that are

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes half the cost of what some the name brand

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<v Speaker 1>competitors are are going for. And so when you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job done, but you're able to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less money, we would definitely recommend for folks

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<v Speaker 1>to do that instead. And what an important job those

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<v Speaker 1>diapers are doing. Matt, let's talk about how Atlanta, how

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<v Speaker 1>it's this giant melting pot. Man diversity is almost like

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta's calling card, I feel like, and it provides a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of incredibly beautiful things to enjoy around the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Like, I'm thinking about the art, the food. Both

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<v Speaker 1>of those scenes are incredible here. The music scene runs

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<v Speaker 1>the gamut to whatever kind of music you're into. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like a club or a place for you to go

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<v Speaker 1>check that stuff out. There's like my favorite blues joint

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is like just off Northside Dry But then there's like

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of other kinds of interesting tunes that have

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<v Speaker 1>come out of Atlanta, specifically Northside Tavern. Is it still running?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so I been there a while. Uh so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of food there too. Like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best diverse spots in Atlanta when it comes to food

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<v Speaker 1>is Buford Highway. It's been called like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most diverse stretches of road in the US. Tons like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, like thousands of immigrant owned businesses there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever type of food that you're into, you are

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<v Speaker 1>bound to find just a great representation of that style,

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<v Speaker 1>uh somewhere kind of on that six mile stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>Bufford Highway. Yeah, that is one of my favorite parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the city to go to. And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>just really what it goes to show is that diversity rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really really nice to be in a city

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<v Speaker 1>where you can experience a whole bunch of different like

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<v Speaker 1>cultures in particular a whole bunch of different styles of cuisine.

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<v Speaker 1>But how does this have to do with our money? Joel, Right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the question, right, So what we'll find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to tien when it comes to your money, this slammeddug

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<v Speaker 1>diversity find you're holdings is crucial for long term success, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we love diversification just in our town and what

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<v Speaker 1>that brings, the flavor that brings to our lives. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about your investments, you know, putting all

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<v Speaker 1>your eggs in one basket is ill advised, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>and it could lead to a lot of success, like

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<v Speaker 1>by starting the right business and and throwing everything behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>But for most folks, there's just too great of a

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<v Speaker 1>risk that you could crush the next you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build for the future if you're not diversified enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why Matt, you and I were fans of

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<v Speaker 1>target date funds and index funds of course. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have money in fifteen different funds

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<v Speaker 1>to be quote unquote diversified. I think sometimes people think

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<v Speaker 1>that they feel like they need to, you know, pick

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different funds and pick a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>individual stocks in order to be widely diversified. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the case. Sometimes one or two single funds can

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<v Speaker 1>do the trick. Plus that complexity, like trying to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in too many different ways, can have other negative effects.

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<v Speaker 1>But diversifying in a simple manner really does ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>you build wealth for the long haul, slowly and steadily,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of hoping that like a big bet on just

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<v Speaker 1>a few companies is going to pay off in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way. Because if you do that, uh, there's too

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<v Speaker 1>good of a chance that you know, you see negative

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<v Speaker 1>returns or that you blow up your money that you're

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<v Speaker 1>saving for you know, years from now. That's right, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep the diversity diversification train rolling here. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Donald Glover's excellent an f X show

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta for a second. If you haven't went went when

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<v Speaker 1>season three coming out ready, I've heard, I'm not totally sure,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>but like, if folks haven't seen it, we'd recommend for

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>folks to go back and check it out. Super weird, quirky,

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<v Speaker 1>but very entertaining. But what financial lesson can we learn

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<v Speaker 1>from from that TV show? Well, Donald Glover, he's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a comedian, he's a creator of Atlanta, He's got

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<v Speaker 1>multiple streams of income. He's also a talented rapper. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>he goes by a childish Gambino. Most of us will

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<v Speaker 1>never produce a Grammy winning album or an Emmy winning

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 1>TV show. Does he have a tony as well? But

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he's like pretty close to like getting an egot. That

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<v Speaker 1>may not be in our future, but we can all

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<v Speaker 1>work towards the future where we aren't wholly dependent on

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>a single paycheck from from an employer. Investing slowly in

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<v Speaker 1>a diversified portfolio is you know, the most basic way

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<v Speaker 1>of doing that, but also starting a side hustle that

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<v Speaker 1>can be another way to diversify your income as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love how much diversification Donald Glover has when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to all the different things he's got going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the Oven. He's getting those royalties from being

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<v Speaker 1>on Community, I'm sure, and like he's getting royalties from

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta and he's producing another season in that and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>can royalties from the rap album? I mean, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>got that passive income on Lockdown and uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, plus the royal tis he receives from the

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<v Speaker 1>show within the show, Troy and Abbitt in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a separate deal that he ainked.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he did. Man, if he's a smart dude,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably did. But yeah, those are really everything he's

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>created I'm a fan of. And and he's just like

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>he's multifasted, right, He's been a director, producer, actor, singer,

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>and he's done more than that too, right, And and

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>all of those skills are connected, but he's been able

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<v Speaker 1>to use them in different ways. And especially Matt, in

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>our current economy, right, it's crucial to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>find ways to translate your skills into effective work within

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>another company or even a different industry, especially we're talking

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>about people wanting to quit their jobs in huge numbers.

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, we actually talked about that some on Monday

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>with Ashley Stalled. But don't pigeonhole yourself. Put less of

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>an emphasis on the jobs you've done and more of

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>an emphasis on the skills that you've acquired, and then

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you accentuate and highlight those. That is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be your ticket to career success and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to continue to move up in your career

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<v Speaker 1>and make more money and do work that you love.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that. Yeah, the example of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Glover and how prolific he's been really just points to

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that fact. All right, Yeah, so we've talked about diversification,

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the affordability lessons that Atlantic can teach

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<v Speaker 1>us bouncing back after some financial storms. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter. Now, uh, he is the only president ever

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<v Speaker 1>to have come out of the state of Georgia. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Jimmy Carter, he he didn't even come

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<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta, he didn't come from the capitol. He grew

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>up in a rural part of the state Plains Georgia.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>His parents owned a peanut farm. That's why his nickname

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was peanut Farmer. But Jimmy Carter is an incredibly humble, generous,

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>and philanthropic Georgian. He doesn't, you know, seek out the limelight. Instead,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>he he lets his actions do the talking. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>so obvious to anyone who who watches his example what

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>he's dands for so small example. He he still teaches

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Sunday school at the church there and plaines Georgia at

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the age of nineties six years old. That's insane, It's impressive.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>My grandma actually went like a couple of years ago.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>You can do that. I had to go down there

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and like sit at Sunday School, like all Jimmy Carter

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>was teaching and what an incredible thing. But he's also

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>been actively involved with building houses with Habitat for Humanity.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't just write a check, you know, like

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 1>one of those big checks like public house, uh or

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>just you know, just to show up for the photo

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>op kind of thing. He's actually there. He's swinging a hammer.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>You've got the Carter Center that he helped found here

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Like with Emery, He's just an incredibly generous person,

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>not only with his time but also with his money.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>So to take away from the example that President Carter sets, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's one of George's claims to fame

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>is is having had him as a president and just

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of man he is, more than even what

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>he did as a president. Because yeah, I mean that's

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>really up for debate, you know, politically depending on where

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you sigh politically, um, whether he did a good job

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>or not. But yeah, the thing that it made me think, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>is are we putting our money where our mouth is?

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Like do we spend money on the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>value or are we consuming and spending without giving it

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>much thought? And do we give to organizations that are

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>doing effective work on causes that we care about. Two

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>are we using our time and our energy to be

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>a positive influence where we live? Like it brought up

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>all these questions for me because I'm like, that's what

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter is doing. I want to be doing that too,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a good way to live. You know,

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>we talked about giving money away in episode two eighty one.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Check that out if you haven't, But yeah, we really

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>do believe that being more charitable makes you richer in

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, and not in the financial sense because you're

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>giving away money, but in the holistic life sense. Um.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And also, if you say that something is important to you,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you aren't waiting until some distant future

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>date to participate. You know, you're not promised tomorrow. Life

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>isn't guaranteed, and so even if you're only able to

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>engage in a small way, make sure that you're at

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>least engaging. Because Yeah, there is such a power when

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it comes to aligning our beliefs in our actions, because

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we say we believe something, but we don't act

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it out, and we feel that misalignment inside, like you know,

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and we want to find a way more and more

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 1>in our lives where what we say and what we

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>do lines up. And I feel like Jimmy Carter, I

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>could not come up with a better example of a

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>person that does that well. One of the things you

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>mentioned too, is that, like, you're not going to financially

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>get richer by giving money away. However, if you do

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>give money to charity, you do get a tax break.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily gonna make you richer, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep in mind. We're actually gonna talk more

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about tax breaks. We're gonna talk about entrepreneurship, We're gonna

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about sports. We'll get to all of those topics

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and how they have to do with Atlanta. Right after

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>this break, we're gonna keep going. On today's episode, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a t L in Money Lessons a t

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>L and obviously that old school outcast reference. But Matt,

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about Jimmy Carter, one of the most

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>famous Georgians, the opposite of outcasts. Maybe I don't know,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>they've got some similarities on them. Yeah, I'm sure they do.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But um yeah, probably the the other most famous person

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and arguably the more famous person from I mean, and yeah,

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>just really probably is more famous person is Martin Luther

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>King Jr. Right, Um, And anybody who's from Atlanta takes

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pride in the fact that Martin Luther

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>King Jr. Was born here in Atlanta. Right that his uh,

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that his legacy really is is so tied to the city. Um.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure that you can boil MLK down

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to like a single word, like, but if I was

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>going to, I think the word I would ascribe to

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>him is leader. And his oratory skills were certainly a

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>part of that, right, Like some of his speeches and

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>his writing were profound on many levels, and they remain

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>relevant for informing how we think about racial justice to

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>this day. I mean, documents that were written sixty years

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>ago are are still ones that we look to and

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>are informed by, Like the Letter from Birmingham Jail. If

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you haven't read it, it's like one of the most

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>powerful documents. And the fact that he partially wrote it

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>on toilet paper is just like inspiring, Like someone snuck

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>him a pencil and he wrote it on whatever he

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>had available to him. And really he also just had

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>this ability to inform and drive a movement, his organization

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of peaceful protests, giving power to seemingly powerless folks, and

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>then his unwillingness to settle for you know, lesser measures,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>lesser solutions from people in power. It really was this

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>catalyst for change that needed to happen in the civil

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>rights movement. It just wouldn't have been the same without

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>ultimately without his leadership kind of at the heart of it, right.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>And so when it comes to your money, there aren't

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily clear cut like we're not going to say that

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a parallel, like a direct parallel here from the

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>amazing things that Martin Luther King Jr. Did uh and

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>what I can do with like my monthly budget. Basically

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>we're drawing faint parallels here Today's that was the direct correlations.

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>There was much more that he was able to do

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>with his life. But even still, when it comes to

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>your money, we want to encourage folks to make sure

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're not following everyone else and what it is

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing with their money. I think being a

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>leader means that, you know, it means not following the Joneses, uh,

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and it means to intentionally choose to live life on

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>your own terms rather than what society, culture, advertising, what

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>all of that has prescribed for us. And so for

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King Jr. And men believing in pursuing something

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that seemed almost impossible. Uh. And if we spend money

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like everyone else, we're likely bound to a future that

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't include any sort of financial independence or any financial

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>freedom at any date. So taking the other path that

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>includes intentional spending, you know, on on what matters to you,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>despite what others are doing. Uh, and saving more than

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you spend because of the future freedom that that it

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>will provide. Like, that is the route to take. It's countercultural, butts,

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>if you have that leader mindset, you're gonna be willing

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to go against the grain in this case, Yeah, believing

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>in a cause and hopefully you know, obviously the cause

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>of civil rights far more important than the cause of

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>your individual financial independence. But if you believe in that cause,

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.479
<v Speaker 1>that financial independence for you is important. It will help

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>inform your actions, it will provide the why behind what

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, behind some of those cuts that you're going

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to feel in your budget. And yeah, it's it might

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>also take more than just intentional spending too, right there

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>there might be times when you're gonna have to make

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice and make trade offs in order to achieve some

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of those personal finance goals that you have. As we

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>look at historical events in the rear view mirror, it

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.479
<v Speaker 1>can be easy to remove a lot of the pain

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and the emotion from some of the moments that happened.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Um And it can make it look easy or inevitable,

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>but like it's it's kind of like, I mean, especially

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>when things are everything is in black and white, it's

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like like when you look back on history,

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, that doesn't seem really like all that real.

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>It's been documented, but like you don't feel it personally

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>unless you have some sort of personal tie to some

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of these different historical events. We can like sterilize history

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in a way, um, by by not remembering the depths

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>of difficulty that it took to achieve what's been achieved.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, marching and protesting for for civil rights sixty

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>years ago involved a whole lot of real actual sacrifice,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like people's homes were bombed, people were hurt and killed,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>and you know, Martin Luther King Jr. Was ultimately assassinated.

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:26.959
<v Speaker 1>And so again we're not trying to say that staying

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>under your budget in your eating out category is equivalent

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to like the selmal March or anything like that. But

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to point out that it takes action

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on our part to see change actually take place. Wishing

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>or hoping isn't enough. That is one of those things.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people they're like, man, it

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>would be great if I was able to make just

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:47.919
<v Speaker 1>a couple of small tweaks and get where I wanted

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to go, But to get some more meaningful oftentimes it

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>takes more than that. Yeah, you know, you definitely have

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to put into action the things that you want to

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>see done. Uh, And it's definitely helpful when you have

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>UH when you're taking a leadership meant reality And Joe

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I I teased that some of the different tax breaks

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and the lessons that we can learn from Georgia when

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 1>it comes to taxes, and Yeah, one of the other

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>things that Georgia has in spades is film industry credits.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Different movie companies they've taken advantage of some sweet tax

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>incent of the State of Georgia is offering. Most production

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>companies that do work in the State of Georgia receive

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a twenty percent tax break, and then there's this additional

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>ten percent tax credit if they include a promotional Georgia

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>logo at the end of the film as well. Can

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you imagine does anybody say, I'll take but I'm not

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna put that logo at the end of the film.

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a no writer man or even just like the

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>different TV shows. I mean, that's why all the different

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Marvel series, like the credit real at the

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>end is so long, uh, and so if you're kind

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of looking for the little post credit scene, you you

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of scroll through all of that and

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you always look for the Georgia peach because it's always

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>near the end. It's no wonder that you know, like

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta specifically is becoming the Hollywood of the South. They're

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>calling it Yllywood because of the amount of film production

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that's taking place in our city. Yeah, and you know,

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a decent chunk of all of our money goes towards

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>taxes each right, So it's really important for all of

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>us to work to minimize that as much as we can.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we think of that as a fixed

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>cost or something that we don't really have much control over.

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 1>But that's not really true right in our tax breaks

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that we can take advantage of as individuals. It's not

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>just for like fancy movie studios to be able to

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>get the biggest tax credits. Um there are things available

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to us as individuals. So by investing more of your

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>money in tax advantage accounts like a traditional IRA or

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 1>a four own K, you'll not only be saving more

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>for your future, but you'll also be lowering your current

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>year's tax bill. It's the same with putting more money

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>in your h s A. If you have access to

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>want a health savings account. We've done a deep dive

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on those in the past. They are possibly our favorite

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>retirement account of all time. But it's important to note

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that getting the tax break now is not always the

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>smartest move. We love roth iras, we think they're the

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>best option for a lot of folks, but whether you're

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>getting a tax break now or later, finding ways to

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>minimize the impact of taxes in your life is really important. Joel,

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about sports here for a minute. Your your

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>favorite subject. I'm not huge into sports. I do like

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta United soccer team, but you are a big

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>fan of the Atlanta Braves, and I feel like they

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>have found their niche, not just as like a sports

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>team for our city, right, Atlanta, but for the entire southeast.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean as a kid growing up in Augusta, I

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>mean the Atlanta Braves were it's I mean definitely, especially

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties, like those are the good old days,

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the massive you know run in the eighties and nineties.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>They're being broadcasted on on TVs, like because of the

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the surrounding states, we're getting a taste of The Atlanta

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Braves kind of had that fourteen year run of division

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>championship winning teams throughout those years. That definitely didn't hurt

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in the popularity of the Braves, uh. And in addition,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Atlanta they were able to take advantage of

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the geography, right because there were no other professional teams

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in the surrounding southern states, and so because of that,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>it was smart to be able to reach out, uh

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to the different baseball lovers in like states like Alabama,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, Tennessee, even Mississippi. And so instead of settling

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>for just Atlanta baseball fans, it seems like the Braves

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>reached beyond those borders and they created this just regional

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>powerhouse and you had people all across the Southeast rooting

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Atlanta Braves. Yeah, so I agree, And those

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>fourteen years were some of the best of my life. Man,

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I watched way too much baseball as a kid. I

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I did as well. Back then it was like it

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>was what you did because it was broadcast on TBS

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and everybody was watching, and all my everything I wore

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>was basically Braves related at that point in time too.

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh not not so anymore, especially when they broke my

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>heart and essentially left in town Atlanta for the just outside.

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll say that topic for another. There's gotta be another lesson.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>They're actually kind of going back to the time is

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>more valuable than money, Like, come on, Braves, what are

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you thinking? I know, Yeah, now I've got a plan

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>ahead to go to a Brads game, where before I

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>just like hop home on bikes minute and literally we

0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>would bike to the Braves game. And when those the

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>good old days, they were Well what money lesson can

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>we take from this example of But like the regional

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>aspect of the Braves and and their massive fan base,

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to something like entrepreneurship, addressing and solving

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>existing problems is the key to really building something great.

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>That's where the best ideas come from when you say, okay, well,

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>not just like what do I want to accomplish, but

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>what is the need that I'm trying to meet? What

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>who am I trying to serve? And the Braves realized

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a need greater than what they initially anticipated, and

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that you know, reaching out to multiple states in the

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>surrounding area was going to increase our viewership, increase their

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>fan base and then drive merchandise sales right, and drive

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>ticket sales too at the ballpark, as people really do

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>travel from hours and hours away to come see a game.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's one of those things where I think,

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>when we're thinking about what it looks like as an

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneur to do something great, um it really we need

0:40:58.680 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to think a little bit bigger, kind of like the

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Braves did, turning it from just like the Atlanta Braves

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>into kind of Braves country. Oh that's right, that's the

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>old Bras country. And here's the thing, I'm not totally

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>sure if the Braves did that super strategically and intentionally.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I don't know, lucked into it. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's just one of those it's a

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>broadcast deal and everyone's watching it, and so therefore they

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>become Braves fames because they don't have a local team

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that they're looking to root for. But regardless of whether

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>or not the Braves did it intentionally or not, that's

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>what That's the kind of intentionality though, that we do

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>want you to bring when it comes to entrepreneurship. I mean,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 1>it makes me think back to starting the photography company

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that Kate and I started back in the day. The

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 1>wedding industry had a serious void of good photojournalists and

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>essentially that's what we're looking for when we got married,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and there weren't that many creative photojournalists out there, and

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the ones who were providing that kind of work we're

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>either really really expensive or they were completely booked up

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>because the demand was so incredibly high. We were able

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to witness that firsthand, and we thought this is something

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>that we could do. I mean, both of us have

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>some photography background, and so we started our company and

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>we had a nice, you know, twelve year run with photography,

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>but we were smashing grain slams mix our analogies here

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>right out of the gate because we had identified that

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>need before we hadn't even pulled the trigger on starting

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>the company, and so oftentimes folks will say, yeah, follow

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>your passion, but what we would say instead is to

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>follow the problems, because anytime you can solve problems, anytime

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you can make people's lives better, you're going to be

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>well compensated for it, no doubt. Matt. Let's uh, let's

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just take one more example from Atlanta sports history. And

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>this one is just a sadder one, but another legacy

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that we really have in the city of Atlanta is

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we choke pretty consistently when the moment gets big, like

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>on on the big stage. There are many times where

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta has come through in the clutch and like pulled

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 1>one out, you know, And so I feel like that's

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like a legacy that we all have to deal with

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>as individual sports fans of Atlanta teams. Like I moved

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>here when I was two, so basically all my sports

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>memories are of Atlanta sports teams, me rooting for Atlanta

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 1>sports teams, and mostly being let down. Like you had

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>one World Series winning there, right, right, Yeah, that was

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously that was the best year in Atlanta sports history.

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, it's really like there were fourteen division championships,

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Matt and just one World Series win. Or you think about,

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, what happened to the Falcons in the Super

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Bowl against the Patriots. I think the ESPN in the

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 1>three lead that they completely blew. Yeah, let's not talk

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>about it. Okay, it's still hurts. And I'm just a

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>huge Falcons fan and so for me, like, I don't

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not either at all when I hear that, really,

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but I remember watching that and just it was devastating

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>still as someone who's like, I don't really go to

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Falcons games, but it was unbelievable. Yeah, it was. It

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was it was, and it just felt so Atlanta when

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it happened. It was like, Okay, this is is what

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>happens like when you're here in Atlanta sports fan, UM,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like you still see the grimace on

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>people's faces when the topic comes up, like you probably

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>just saw on mine. But yeah, like I think the

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>lesson that we can derive from this is finishing strong

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 1>is important. Right in our Atlanta sports teams UM haven't

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>seemed to really get that or do well with that.

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to our money, that's a really

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>really important thing for us to figure out. I think

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 1>like we all have the ability and the possibility of

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>self sabotage when it comes to when it comes to

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>our money or you know, in lots of areas of

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>our lives. But even if you've been able to make

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>sustained progress on your money over quite a period of time,

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's possible to throw a lot of that effort away

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in a moment of weakness, right, or to let our

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>habits atrophy over time. I think having regular check ins

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you aren't losing steam and that

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you're still working towards those bigger goals is crucial because

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.479
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to get away from something good that you've

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>started and then to to lose that progress. Um And

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be like the falcons in the

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter of that game, giving it all away in

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>just like a short period of time, something that you

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>worked over a really long period of time to accumulate.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>That's right. We want you to finish strong with your

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>personal finances. We don't want you to choke in the

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter and get and give up like ning ton

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of points or the nitherinning or stoppage time. Uh. We

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>love our city. We're huge fans of Atlanta and hopefully

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you gotta just like a little taste of Atlanta history here,

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>so many Atlanta history lessons in addition to some money help.

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>On today's episode, we feel that the four or four

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it's an excellent place to live. We'd encourage you to

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>check it out for many of the beneficial reasons that

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned on today's episode. Yeah, I feel like we're

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 1>really experiencing Atlanta during its heyday right now too. I mean,

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sherman tried to have his way back in

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen sixties and demolish it, but it's like, no way, man.

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>We we really are like the Phoenix. Our city represents

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that well. And I feel like right now is the

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>time when Atlanta is that it's most vibrant. Uh. It's

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of exciting to see it. So it's really fun

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it. And so yeah, most

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of our listeners should probably think about moving here. But

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the beer that we had, Matt.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 1>This is a local beer from one of our favorite

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 1>local group pubs. It's called Siberius Maximus by Wrecking Bar

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Group UB. It is a Russian Imperial stouts. What were

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on this one. Yeah, this one was very

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>very delicious. That poured super black. You can catch a

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>whiff of it, and obviously there was like roasty, like

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>dark roasty notes, but almost like a boozy chocolate vibe

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>going on. That was I felt immediately followed by like

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>some vanilla and some coconuts. Uh. And as soon as

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you took that sip, like all of those flavors. Because

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the notes that you pick up by smelling it

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't always translate to flavor. But every single one of

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>those notes, I feel like that that I was smelling

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>directly translated to on my on my tongue. This was

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>like a masterpiece, I would say, uh. And I like

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a good Russian Imperial stout, although it's a style I

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 1>don't drink very often because it is so big and

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>so bitter most of the time, and this one was

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>This might be the best Russian Imperial stout I've ever had.

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>A fantastic example of this style, yeah, for sure, And

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes they are overly bitter. This one had

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of bitter dark chocolate notes, and I love

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>dark chocolate, Like, give me dark chocolate over milk chocolate

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>any day of the week. And this one was like

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:01.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly the flavors I wanted to experience and was hoping

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to experience and I got to. So, Yeah, it was

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>bitter dark chocolate without being just like over the top bidder.

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure they put extra special care and attention

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>into this one because it's their tenth anniversary beer. But yeah, really,

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>everything that we've had from Wrecking Bar, it's pretty much

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a great beer. So but this one was maybe one

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of the best we've ever had. Yeah, we're lucky to

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>have that group pub just right up the street from us,

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:25.959
<v Speaker 1>and this is a very special one. It doesn't doesn't

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 1>say it on the bottle, but this is a how

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>do you say it? Like a couve a. So this

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>is a blend of multiple batches that they had in

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 1>order to craft the perfect anniversary, using the best versions

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to create the epic version. Absolutely. So, if you are

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta and you are looking to check out a

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>great group pub that's got fantastic food and really good beer,

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>check out Wrecking Bar. But Joel, that's gonna be it

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>for Money Talk for Today listeners. You can find our

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 1>show notes up on our website at how the Money

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>dot com. We'll make sure to link to any of

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the previous episodes or any of the different resources we

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.600
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0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.239
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0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but until next time, Buddy, best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,