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Speaker 3: Here we go. It is a Friday.

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Speaker 1: Oh all week, I've said, bety, under take the points.

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Speaker 1: Have I changed my mind? Did I have an epiphany

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Speaker 1: last night after another lousy night of sleep in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may

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Speaker 1: I've got two strong takes this morning I've got to

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Speaker 1: start the show with. And the first one is Matt

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Speaker 1: Staytafford won MVP last night by a vote over Drake May.

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Speaker 1: I would have voted Matt Stafford. Both are excellent. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it would have been difficult for me to

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Speaker 1: make the decision. And here's why, because there's one thing

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Speaker 1: that's not discussed about Matt Stafford. So Drake May led

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Speaker 1: the NFL in scrambles, clear advantage over Stafford, but Stafford

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Speaker 1: dominated him in so many other important things, Like Stafford

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Speaker 1: had twice as many what they call big time throws.

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Speaker 1: Stafford also faced the Seattle Seahawks defense twice right, and

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Speaker 1: Stafford played a much better schedule. Stafford had fewer what

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Speaker 1: they call quarterback miscues, sacks, fumbles, interceptions. Stafford had thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: May had sixty three. So Drake actually led the NFL

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Speaker 1: in fumbles. So you got more big plays, you got

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Speaker 1: fewer mistakes, but that's and more touchdown passes, but you

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Speaker 1: don't get the mobility. But to me, here's really the

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Speaker 1: difference between the two. There is a reason in this

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Speaker 1: country you cannot be president until you're thirty five. Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford understands the why on every play. Drake May is

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Speaker 1: twenty three. He's still trying to figure out the what

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Speaker 1: it's like great parenting. You don't have to save your kids.

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Speaker 1: If you're a great parent, you don't put them in

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Speaker 1: positions to be saved. Great presidents are like that. Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford's like that. He's a Jedi master with the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You ever watch how often the Rams go

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and he's changing plays, He's

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Speaker 1: getting you out of trouble, he's getting you into yards.

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Speaker 1: Drake May can't do that. And maybe it's the fact

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Speaker 1: that Stafford's got four daughters, he's been married for years.

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Speaker 1: But there is a calmness and a maturity and an

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Speaker 1: eq I mean, think about this, dat Stafford has more

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter comeback wins than Drake mayhas. Career starts, He's

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Speaker 1: attempted eighty eight hundred passes. Drake May's at eight hundred.

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Speaker 1: They're just different people, life experience. We won't let you

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Speaker 1: be president into your mid thirties, and I'd suggest we

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Speaker 1: go to forty. I mean, I'm getting tired of the

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Speaker 1: seventy and eighties. But there's a reason we have that.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not just that I get more big plays,

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Speaker 1: because you can argue, well, you got Devonte Adams, you

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Speaker 1: I would argue New England's receiving corps is really deep

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Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry's excellent. The Rams do have a better

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Speaker 1: offensive line, but it comes down to the maturity and

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Speaker 1: the seasoning, and parents don't get credit for keeping their

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Speaker 1: kids out of trouble, so they don't have to save them.

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Speaker 1: And Stafford does that as well as anybody in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: This week, I had Tom Brady on the show and

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Speaker 1: we weren't even talking MVP debate, and he just randomly

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Speaker 1: brought up Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 4: When you have a very highly intellectual quarterback, let's look

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Speaker 1: That's how he walks to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Now he's got seventeen years of wisdom, he can now say, great,

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Speaker 4: there's a very high percentage chance that this play is

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Speaker 4: actually going to work.

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Speaker 5: Let's run it.

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Speaker 3: That's how you continue to take growth as a.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback and level up every single year because the processing

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Speaker 4: amount of the processing information, the speed of processing information can.

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Speaker 5: Get better as you get older.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, when you have an older brother and a

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Speaker 1: it years from now. Drake May is still trying to

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Speaker 1: is at a Brady Manning level that very few quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: this week. It's you don't get people to join forces

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Speaker 1: talk Hall of Fames, the Basketball Hall of Fame. Let's

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Speaker 1: in officials and Meadow Larklemon his commitment and confetti got

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Speaker 1: him in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Doesn't allow the

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Speaker 1: all time home run leader or the all time hits leader. Okay,

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Speaker 1: got it. The NFL Hall of Fame outrageously and agregiously

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Speaker 1: for one year made Belichick. Wait and people are losing there.

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Speaker 1: Spygate one, Spygate two, first round pick, third round pick,

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Speaker 1: fines taken away forty winning percentage without Brady. Can we

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Speaker 1: take a deep breath? Can we take a deep breath?

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fames are museums, so they serve primarily three functions.

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Speaker 1: Number one, their field trips for kids. They're away to

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Speaker 1: guys take their girlfriend to make them feel that they're

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Speaker 1: more sophisticated. That's the majority of people that go to

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Speaker 1: museums field trips. Bernadette is an eighty year old or

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Speaker 1: impressure girlfriend something to remember, you get in or you don't.

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Speaker 1: You get a jacket or you don't. The Louver opened

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Speaker 1: in seventeen ninety three. Mona Lisa did not get in

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Speaker 1: until seventeen ninety seven. She did not get in. Yeah, nobody.

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Speaker 1: Ten million people a year go to the Louver and

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Speaker 1: look at the Mona Lisa. Not one of them has

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Speaker 1: said that, by the way, why not? She was bad

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Speaker 1: with the press, and if you take da Vinci out,

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Speaker 3: So she got the jacket.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares, and that love is more important than the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame Globally, nobody's asking when Luke

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Speaker 1: Keithley got in last night? Awesome, awesome, one of the

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Speaker 1: I get more worked up that Green Day got in

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Speaker 1: before Pearl Jam and bon Jovi. I'm still pissed about that.

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Speaker 1: That's what works me up. But if Mona Lisa.

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Speaker 3: Four years outrageous, spy.

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Speaker 1: Day, one, spy date two, multiple fines, two million dollars

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry Jimmy Johnson without Troy Aikman and then

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Speaker 1: old Dan Marino still won fifty eight percent of his games.

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Speaker 3: You take out Brady Coo.

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Speaker 1: Look at the resume. You got the winning percentage of

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Speaker 1: Jerry Glanville, funny guy, not a great football coach. So

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Speaker 1: can we all take a deep breath, Just take a

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Speaker 1: deep breath. You get a jacket or you don't. You

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Speaker 1: get in or you don't. You don't get everything in life.

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Speaker 1: And if you are viewed as somebody and I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is even disputable, that kind of pushed the

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Speaker 1: envelope with the rules calling. Everybody did it? Next time,

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Speaker 1: next time you get audited, tell the irs agent that

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Speaker 1: everybody cheats on their taxes. It's not gonna work. I

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Speaker 1: said it earlier this week. You get pulled over by

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Speaker 1: law enforcement after a couple of beers. Hey, everybody else,

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Speaker 1: here's a little sauce too. That's not gonna work. There

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Speaker 1: is a tax and a price to pay if you

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Speaker 1: are seeing regardless of the number of trophies, if you

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Speaker 1: were fine multiple times, if they took away draft picks

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Speaker 3: A year.

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Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. The headline this morning

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Speaker 1: was has this forever tarnished the football Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where the Hockey Hall of Fame is.

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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds and Pete Rose aren't in the Baseball Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and they led an officials to the Basketball

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Football Hall of Fame's just fine. Mona

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Speaker 1: Lisa got the gold jacket. She got the jacket, she's

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Speaker 1: in j Mac. I'm glad I put a bow on that.

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Speaker 1: So all week, all week, I've said, take the under.

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Speaker 1: It's low scoring, the defenses are better than the offenses.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable coaching. Vrabel and Josh McDaniel have a huge advantage,

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Speaker 1: and I still think they do something. Though, on a

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, that happens when you're living it up out

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Speaker 6: here in Los Angeles. But hey, I quick question on

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Speaker 6: the Mona Lisa. Did the Mona Lisa hold Sean mcvay's

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Speaker 6: Mona Lisa have done that? We had the slot receiver

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Speaker 6: because of Bill Belichick. Mona Lisa didn't do anything with

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Speaker 6: He got jobbed Colin. It's okay to say that. By

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Speaker 1: The artwork our graphics department. Who knew that she wore hoodies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's rue. The Italian Renaissance just keeps on

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Speaker 1: veiling itself. So I don't think I want to talk

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Speaker 1: Here we go, hour two. It is a Friday, Super

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Speaker 1: the herd wherever you may be, however you may be watching.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. We had

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Speaker 1: a very good year. I was very fortunate hit about

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Speaker 1: sixty percent of my NFL picks, fifty nine to sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the NFL picks, and then I picked them

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Speaker 1: the first weekend of the playoffs, and after that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of I shut the blazing five down.

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Speaker 1: But in this game, and this happens all the time

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Speaker 1: over the course of a week, there can be injuries,

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Speaker 1: there can be storylines, and then you start deep diving

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Friday and Thursday night is the night that

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Speaker 1: I spend some time kind of deep diving on stuff.

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Speaker 1: And all week long I've said low scoring, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: the points. It's I think it's very twenty four to

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Speaker 1: theme that I can't get passed and it benefits Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I want you to think about this. In a division.

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Speaker 1: Seattle was in a division where they had to face

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, the best running back in the league, just

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Speaker 1: pure talent, and Kyle Shanahan probably the best run game coach.

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Speaker 1: They had to face them three times. They also had

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Speaker 1: to face McVeigh Kyron Williams in the substantial rams run

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Speaker 1: and Shanahan in those run games. Yet Seattle led the

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Speaker 1: NFL the entire league infewest yards per attempt. I can't

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Speaker 1: get past that, meaning Drake May is going to have

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Speaker 1: three years old for Super Bowl. Do you know what

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Speaker 1: his career record is when he attempts thirty five passes

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Speaker 1: or more it's one in seven big Bens for Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Brady's for Super Bowl. Mahomes first Super Bowl. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, the offensive coordinator for New England, and it's

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Speaker 1: certainly something he could do, is going to have to

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Speaker 1: call a perfect game. I believe there'll be a lot

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Speaker 1: to be. You cannot ask Drake May against this defense

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Speaker 1: They'll get rolled. I can't get past that. Seattle facing

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Speaker 1: elite run games regularly, fewest yards per rush in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think New England needs a touchdown on defense and

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Speaker 1: a perfect game plan called by Josh McDaniel. Ryan Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: likes New England and I get his reasoning too.

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Speaker 3: Here. He is the longer this thing is the game.

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Speaker 3: They're going to shorten the game.

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Speaker 10: On offense, Romandre Stevenson is gonna have a ton of carries.

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Speaker 10: Josh McDaniels is the X factor in this game. He's

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Speaker 10: been in a bunch of these. Drake May has a

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Speaker 10: calmness about him when Josh is calling the place he's

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Speaker 3: I think the New England Patriots are gonna win this game.

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Speaker 3: I think that reasoning is sound.

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Speaker 1: But my question is, you go back to the Denver game,

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Speaker 1: pre Blizzard, Patriots could not move the ball. Punt punk, punt, punt.

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Speaker 1: So here is my Super Bowl pick, Seahawks versus Patriots.

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Speaker 1: New England's played eleven games this season against teams that

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Speaker 1: eventually fired their coach, so it's not that they played

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Speaker 1: average teams. New England built up a lot of their

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Speaker 1: games that he throws thirty five or more and they

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Speaker 1: He's won in seven and he is the most sacked

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Speaker 1: taken in a single postseason. And I'd argue Seattle's defense

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Speaker 1: is better. The Seahawks have led for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: take a lead. Okay, the three games they lose in

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Speaker 1: best in the league when committing one or fewer turnovers.

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Speaker 1: That's the secret here. Can New England force two? Their

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Speaker 1: defense allows three point eight yards per rush. I can't

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Speaker 1: get past that. Drake May is going to have to

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Speaker 1: Seattle to death. I'm going to take the Seahawks to

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Speaker 1: win close. I think it's low scoring. I think Seattle's

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Speaker 1: capable of making mistakes, a very young team. Twenty four

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Speaker 1: youngest team in the league, makes mistakes. Greg Cosell was

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Speaker 11: They have tremendous versatility with their back end players, which

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Speaker 11: allows them to do multiple things from a coverage and

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Speaker 11: a pressure standpoint, do they feel they need to help Campbell?

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Speaker 11: How about Wilson, the rookie left guard, what do they

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Speaker 11: feel about him going up against perhaps Williams or at

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Speaker 11: times they even move Lawrence inside. So I think that

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Speaker 11: it'll be interesting to see how the Patriots handle that.

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Speaker 1: I just now j mack will make his pick in

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Speaker 1: two hours, little less than two hours. But I went

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Speaker 1: down last night and I went and looked at Brady

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Big Ben's first Super Bowl starts number one.

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Speaker 1: The second thing I looked at is Seattle's run defense

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Speaker 1: multiple times. Those are very good run teams. New England's

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Speaker 1: not in that class. So again, I think New England's

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Speaker 1: got some clear edges. Drake may Is, I don't think

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Speaker 1: one of them. I don't think that's one of their edges.

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Speaker 1: I think vrabel super Bowl experience, Josh McDaniel's Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: J mac Any response, Yeah, I'm with you, Colin. We

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Speaker 6: just texting one of our staff members was like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: here's an amo to go back at Colin, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I can't because I agree with them. I mean, look

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Speaker 6: at the three playoff games, right, the Patriots run offense.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of working seventy yards or whatever.

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Speaker 6: They were leading in the second half of all those games,

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Speaker 6: so they just relied on the run game. They don't

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Speaker 6: I think see gets the lead here and kind of

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Speaker 1: Gone, wow, I will say this. You don't call that

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Speaker 3: He's try not to.

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Speaker 6: You gotta save it for the big spots, like the

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Speaker 6: Eagles over the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Last year in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That was a big spot.

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Speaker 6: Just forget my wildcard picks. They did not happen they

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Speaker 6: at all. Ignore them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, he is impossible not to root for unless your

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Speaker 1: a rival of the Indiana Hoosiers. Fernando Mendoza, you know

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Speaker 1: about the Heisman Trophy, and you know about the remarkable

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza has been kind enough to join us live

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Speaker 1: just you're such a neat story and very true to

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Speaker 1: your personality. Fernando, When was the first time that you

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Speaker 1: thought to yourself, because you're a real humble kid, but

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Speaker 1: you thought to yourself, maybe after a game, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I may be able to play on Sundays. I think

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Speaker 3: Was that in high school? Was that?

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Speaker 1: What? When was that first moment?

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, Miss Scout, I really appreciate having

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Speaker 9: me on and as much as I love the compliment,

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Speaker 9: I don't think I'm in the same sense as Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 9: I'm still a long way to go. But at Cow

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Speaker 9: I was a very raw prospect and I know I

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Speaker 9: needed to get developed. And that's why after graduated Cal

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Speaker 9: And I would say mid year, when we played Oregon

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Speaker 3: Make can play in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: And then the whole month of December we have here

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Speaker 9: this next step, to take this next leap and bet

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting though you went to Cal, you

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Speaker 1: You guys all talk about his arm and his size,

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Speaker 9: And I always trust my offensive lineman and I know

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Speaker 9: it's also going to inspire my team. Wow, Fernando could

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's somebody we want to play with. That's somebody

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Speaker 9: And like you mentioned, there are a lot of close

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Speaker 3: But I think that's great experience.

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Speaker 9: And that's why when it was a Penn State game,

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Speaker 9: won some close games and we also lost some close games.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting. We all know Kurt Signetti is a

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Speaker 9: So my younger brother, Alberta Mendoza, who's now gonna be

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Speaker 9: the starting quarterback for the for Georgia Tech, he was

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Speaker 9: there the year before. And when I was, you know,

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Speaker 9: in Cal for three years under you know, a couple

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Speaker 9: different ocs, and I saw the way he developed a

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Speaker 9: one year. I was like, Wow, the way he's learning

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Speaker 9: about defense, the way they're processing information, and the way

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Speaker 9: they're really developing the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's where I need to go.

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Speaker 9: And when I visited these other schools, they're like, hey,

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Speaker 9: we have the best shot of win of the national

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Speaker 9: championship Indiana. I mean, they're a Cinderella story. But coach

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Speaker 9: Signetti was like, Fernando, you want to go to the NFL.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to develop you into the best quarterback you

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Speaker 9: could possibly become. And that's what sol mad because I

447
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Speaker 9: want to control the controllables. I mean, the best quarterback

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Speaker 9: I could become, the best of my teammates and coaches. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: the does he ever get mad at yet, because boy,

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Speaker 9: he gets mad at the media all the time.

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Speaker 3: He gets mad at you. He does, oh.

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Speaker 5: Oh a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that There's.

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Speaker 9: Been a lot of times in practice he's like, what

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Speaker 9: the hell are you throwing here?

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Speaker 3: And you know, and it's that tough love.

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Speaker 9: He honestly, he doesn't give us a lot of love

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Speaker 9: at all, especially the quarterback. But I think that's what

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Speaker 9: makes him special because he never wants to keep us complacent.

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Speaker 9: When we had great victories early in the year, he

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Speaker 9: was like, I don't know who you guys think you are.

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Speaker 3: We're not that good as the team. We still need

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Speaker 3: to go a long, long way.

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Speaker 9: And Coach Singknatty was always always made sure to keep

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Speaker 9: our team and especially myself humble.

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Speaker 3: So he was always very.

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Speaker 9: Hard on us, and I think, especially in the day

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Speaker 9: and age of college coaches, you know, going to more

469
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Speaker 9: of the side of nil, the power shift to the players, yea,

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Speaker 9: where they, you know, just wanted to be a little

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Speaker 9: more friendly. He brings out old school leader that kind

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Speaker 9: of like fear leader CEO type where it's hey, you're

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Speaker 9: gonna respect him, You're gonna do what he says, and

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Speaker 9: he listens to his coaching points. So it is a

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Speaker 9: great learning opportunity for all of us.

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Speaker 1: The in terms of just football players quarterbacks, A lot

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Speaker 1: of times we in the media or draft analysts will say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's his comp here's his camp, here's who he is.

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Speaker 1: And I do think you have I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: you have a toughness that has an Andrew Luck feel,

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Speaker 1: and you have a poise and a toughness and the

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Speaker 1: intellect and that's why you know. And by the way,

483
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Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck, Andrew didn't play with five star guys

484
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Speaker 1: at Stanford. He played with good players. You play with

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Speaker 1: good players, you know, do you is there a professional

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Speaker 1: quarterback at any part of your journey that even subconsciously

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Speaker 1: you kind of the footwork, the style, the jersey, There

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Speaker 1: is there a professional that you've always kind of thought.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the way he plays the way

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Speaker 1: his feet work. Is there a guy for you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say there's a lot of guys for

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Speaker 9: me throughout my entire childhood. And then when I started

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Speaker 9: getting too high school on the college level, and I

494
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Speaker 9: actually learned how to study tape and really extracting things

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Speaker 9: from their game to put into my game. A child,

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Speaker 9: I was always a huge Tom Brady fan. Read TV

497
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Speaker 9: twelve book. I was always big on the preparation is

498
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Speaker 9: like Tom, I'm not the biggest, I'm not the fastest,

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Speaker 9: I'm not the strongest, but the edge is in the

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Speaker 9: intellect and preparation. So I really appreciate him preaching that message.

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Speaker 3: From a young age.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and what's really important about being quarterback is being cerebral,

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Speaker 9: knowing where to go to the ball, knowing your checks

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Speaker 9: and all that different you know, all those different external

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Speaker 9: factors that you don't think about when you just think

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Speaker 9: about arm, talent and footwork. And then this past year,

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Speaker 9: our quarterback coach Chanl Weber, who's now the quarterback coach

508
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Speaker 9: for the Bucks with Baker right now, he made me

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Speaker 9: watch every single clip of Sam Darnold from the past year.

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Speaker 3: And Matthew Stafford has.

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Speaker 9: Made a little bit of a similar system as we

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Speaker 9: did in Indiana for some of the play action games

513
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Speaker 9: now not the RPL, before the play action games, and

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Speaker 9: for the drop back game. And it was great to

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Speaker 9: see their footwork and really how they processed the game,

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Speaker 9: and it helped me learn a lot about the NFL

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Speaker 9: game because you always see the highlights, but it was

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Speaker 9: really interesting to see this how they dealt with plays

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Speaker 9: that didn't go their way, when they needed to throw

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Speaker 9: the ball away or they needed to check it down.

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Speaker 1: And I think it really helped my efficiency this year. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you're going to go to the Raiders. We can project that.

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Speaker 1: I'm projecting you're going to go number one. You will

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Speaker 1: lose some games. It's a great division. And when I

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Speaker 1: watched you against Miami, they were running some zone, some

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Speaker 1: manned man. It was a very smart defense and they

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Speaker 1: were really physical and I kind of felt, I honestly

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Speaker 1: felt Fernando, I'm like, he's kind of getting a glimpse

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Like Miami's got professional level athletes. Take

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Speaker 1: me back to that Miami game because you were so

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Speaker 1: good on big downs. Was that the most professional feeling?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ohio State's obviously great, but when you played Miami. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it felt I said this, I'd never watched the college

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Speaker 1: game that I thought felt like a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a pro game. When you were in that game, did

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Speaker 1: it take you to a place? Did you I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you think at any point this is the best

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Speaker 1: personnel I've ever faced.

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Speaker 9: Honestly, I think Palvert Powell House they had the best

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Speaker 9: person now. But what it made, what Miami made an

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Speaker 9: NFL game is the edges they had. They have two

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Speaker 9: first round picks on the edge, and as how it

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Speaker 9: is in the NFL, you want to stay in front

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Speaker 9: of the sticks. You want to be efficient so you

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Speaker 9: don't get into long third downs because they have Jason

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Speaker 9: Taylor's a d Lana coach, and they're doing all the

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Speaker 9: different NFL stunts, all these different disguises, so you want

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Speaker 9: to stay ahead of the sticks. And Miami had extremely

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Speaker 9: physical defense. And with the NFL, like we talked about,

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Speaker 9: the Martins are so small and it's gonna be a

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Speaker 9: dog fight every single week, and when it seems like

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Speaker 9: you're up by a lot, you're not really because then

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Speaker 9: it comes back to equalize. And I think the Miami

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Speaker 9: game was great experience because you're gonna get roughed up,

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Speaker 9: so what.

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Speaker 3: Cry about it? But you're gonna need to be able

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Speaker 3: to deliver in.

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Speaker 9: The big moments, like they say, money down, third down,

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Speaker 9: and even more than that fourth down.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's your personality is very infectious and it's

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Speaker 1: very authentic, and you're just a you're a very optimistic guy.

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Speaker 1: But what I actually I'll tell you it's not just

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Speaker 1: the Indiana stuff. I like that you played at CAL.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers played at CAL. Jared Goff played at Cal.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. I don't know if you've seen the tapes.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff got beat up a lot at Cal. He

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Speaker 1: was he got sacked a lot. And I look at

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Speaker 1: Cal and I'm like, oh, this kid knows what it's like.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna this is tough. If I said to you, Fernando,

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Speaker 1: what is the one thing you have to work on

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Speaker 1: before you take an NFL snap? What's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I'm not saying it keeps you awake at night?

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Speaker 1: But you're like, man, I got to get better at Blank.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say with the NFL, man, I believe

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Speaker 9: my forward needs to get better because anticipation at the

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Speaker 9: time in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's larger than college. College.

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Speaker 9: You know, you always got the you know, right as

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Speaker 9: they break or before they break. But the NFL you

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Speaker 9: kind of get away with that stuff and with the

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Speaker 9: footwork at time. And it is something that I've really

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Speaker 9: improved on from cal to this year. If I think

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Speaker 9: the footwork is so important, actually the small movements in

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Speaker 9: the pocket we see quarterbacks. When I was watching the

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Speaker 9: NFL tape, you see Matthew Stafford, he moves a foot,

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Speaker 9: is stable and then rips the ball rather than escaping

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Speaker 9: the pocket or these large movements in the pocket. It's

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Speaker 9: all about being subtle and being a master within your

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Speaker 9: telephone booth in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: All right, By the way, are you are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you picking a team for the Super Bowl? Do you?

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Speaker 1: Is there a team you thinks better?

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 9: I'm not picking a team for a Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 9: don't want to get in any trouble and I just

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Speaker 9: hope it's a good game. And you know, it's kind

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Speaker 9: of it's kind of funny because now I'm in the

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Speaker 9: real world and actually play in the NFL, So I

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Speaker 9: f I'm being an NFL fan.

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Speaker 3: I've I've got rid of that aspect.

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Speaker 9: Of my life now because I realize I'm gonna be

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Speaker 9: playing for an NFL franchise, an organization, and.

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Speaker 3: I need to give them, give them my all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Planet Fitness is who you're supporting. You got a

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Speaker 1: word for Planet Fitness?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 9: You know, as much as I love coach Signetty, he

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Speaker 9: kicked me out of the Indiana Football fasode. He said,

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Speaker 9: get out of here. We're ready for the new team.

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Speaker 9: And so when I went here on Radio Row, I

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Speaker 9: need to get a workout and I need to be prepared.

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Speaker 3: I can have two weeks off not working out.

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Speaker 9: If not, you know, I don't even want to see

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Speaker 9: what that product looks like. So if fan of Fitness,

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Speaker 9: it gave me a fifteen dollar per month subscription. So

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Speaker 9: I'm be able to go in there, you know, before

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Speaker 9: Radio Row, get a workout in, do some you know, applyabilty,

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Speaker 9: be able to you know, work on my core.

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Speaker 3: And maintain and strength for.

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Speaker 9: This pre draft process as I know how important it is.

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Speaker 3: And you give this eight weeks and honestly this entire

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Speaker 3: year my all.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to really like Kurt Signettes's crankiness.

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Speaker 1: That makes me laugh. That is her signatory times, I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to really an endearing quality. Get out of my facility, kid. Hey, rats,

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch it play in the NFL. There's

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Speaker 1: just it's You're an easy guy to root for, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking fifteen minutes for our show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, God bless you guys. I appreciate it. Again.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and neonon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I talk to an executive in the league and

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Speaker 1: I ask them about their favorite players, universally, every GM,

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Speaker 1: every scouting director I've ever talked to, puts Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: this top five. And there is something beyond just leading

636
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Speaker 1: the NFL and tackles for losses or pressures. It's beyond that.

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Speaker 1: It's the attitude. It's hard to play for teams that lose.

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Speaker 1: It's it's easy to be uninspired, and Max, with two exes,

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby is never uninspired and he joins us at

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Speaker 1: the Raiders facility. It is interesting. Your journey's fantastic. It

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Speaker 1: is just I was just talking to that Fernando Mendoza kid.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, he's gonna be your number one pick,

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Speaker 1: and he got beat up at cal he was a

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Speaker 1: low star recruit, like he didn't get like his journey's fascinating, right,

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Speaker 1: and then he goes to Kurt Signetti and Indiana didn't

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Speaker 1: have five star guys like And I wonder sometimes that

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Speaker 1: if your journey is part of why you're successful, like

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00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: you play angry. And I think Brady to the very

649
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: end had a chip on his shoulder about being drafted late.

650
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: And when you play for a team that has struggled

651
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: to win games, do you still have a little bit

652
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: of that little little resent, meant that little anger about

653
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, you didn't you didn't think I was good enough?

654
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: I went to Eastern Michigan. You ever played with that

655
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: a little bit still? That motor?

656
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

657
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 12: You know that's what uh you know, that's what gets

658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 12: you up in the morning. You know, it's at obsession

659
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 12: and that passion for the game. You know, no matter

660
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 12: what the score is, That's something I pride myself on

661
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 12: because you know, I feel like, you know, you mentioned

662
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 12: Brady being a six round pick, myself being a fourth

663
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 12: round pick. You know, I feel like I always had

664
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 12: to fight and go above and beyond to prove myself.

665
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 12: And that's why I feel like I've been able to

666
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 12: be at my level for as long as I have,

667
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 12: and why I know I'm going to continue to getting

668
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 12: better because I know in my head, like from the outside,

669
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 12: everyone's like, man, you're killing it, You're doing this and

670
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 12: doing that, and in my head it's always like no,

671
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 12: like I know there's another level. I know there's a

672
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 12: DPO Y in my future. I know there's a Super Bowl.

673
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 12: I know there's first team All pros, Like that's what

674
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 12: I fight for. So i could be top five in

675
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 12: every category and There'll still be something else I'm trying

676
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 12: to chase because that's like, that's what pushes me because

677
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 12: I know at one point nobody even wanted me and

678
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 12: only one school took a chance on me in the

679
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 12: whole country. So that's that that ship on my shoulder,

680
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 12: that that only continues to grow because I know, like

681
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 12: deep down, you've got to earn it, improve it every

682
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 12: single time, and it's about what you're doing right now.

683
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: So the higher you go, the harder it gets.

684
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 12: And I'm willing to take that, you know, run that

685
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 12: marathon every single time.

686
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: When I remember watching a clip of Aaron Donald in

687
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: his last year and he was being triple teamed. I'm like,

688
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: he's like, it's not even fair, Like I understand why

689
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm retired. It's like, okay, white Flag, I give up.

690
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: You now are the one raider. Although I've said this before,

691
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: I think your defense, if healthy, is going to be

692
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: pretty interesting next year. I think you've got some really

693
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: talented dudes. Are there times you feel like, now that

694
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: you've arrived, you get doubled, you get chipped?

695
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: Are there?

696
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, are there times it's frustrating at all?

697
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

698
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 12: I mean yeah, Like I would say, at first, when I,

699
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 12: you know, first started really you know, having that type

700
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 12: of success in the NFL, right, you know, I've that

701
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 12: first breakout year, everyone starts keying in on you. So

702
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 12: initially you're like, damn, I'm just trying to get a

703
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 12: one on one or trying to get more one on

704
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 12: one opportunities. And in your head you're like, damn, like

705
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 12: I'm not going to have as many one on ones

706
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 12: as I usually do. But after like you get used

707
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 12: to it and you just understand, like that's the ultimate

708
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 12: respect in this game.

709
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: You know.

710
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 12: Every single week, I know, they got to put a

711
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 12: red circle around me and say listen, we got to

712
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 12: stop this guy, Like, that's the ultimate respect. That's when

713
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 12: you know you've gotten to the level that you need

714
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 12: to be at and that you have to continue getting

715
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 12: better because it gets harder when you got constant chips

716
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 12: in the run game and pass game and they're running

717
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 12: away from me ninety percent of the time. It's like,

718
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 12: that's when you know you're doing something right. But at

719
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 12: the same time, you have to just be level headed

720
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 12: and stay calm, because if you start just freaking out

721
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 12: and you know, getting frustrated, you'll start losing yourself and

722
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 12: not playing your best ball. So you know, I have

723
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 12: guys on my team, Malcolm Koons all the time. You know,

724
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 12: he started having more success and he started getting shipped.

725
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: A little bit more and he's like, Max, I don't

726
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: know how you do it.

727
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: Bro.

728
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 12: I'm like, I'm like, listen, I said, you can't let

729
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 12: it frustrate. You got to keep going because the one

730
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 12: time you get that one on one and you're not

731
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 12: ready for it, you're not thinking, you think you're going

732
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 12: to get chipped or whatever, that's when you might miss

733
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 12: that opportunity to go get a strip sack or.

734
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 5: Go make a game change in play.

735
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 12: So you got to just you know, be locked in

736
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 12: in tunnel vision when that stuff is going on.

737
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean think about that. If you get one

738
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: sack a game, you're a first ballot Hall of Famer

739
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: in your career. Just one you can get. You can

740
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: get tossed around like a crew toon and a salad

741
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: bowl for three hours, and you get one great sack

742
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: and you're a Hall of Famer. You know, there's there's

743
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of stories because you're such a high profile player.

744
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's part owner. Here comes Fernando Mendoza. You're in

745
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: the news now all the time, so I don't know

746
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: what's true what's not. Here's what I'll ask. Where are

747
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: you today with the Raiders? Where's your mind at? What

748
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? I don't know what I read true?

749
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: What I read that.

750
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: You're in the news all the time, So just lay

751
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: it out there. Where are you with the Raiders?

752
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's it's funny.

753
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 12: I'm glad you brought it up, because you know it's

754
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 12: like Dan, if you do, Dan, if you don't, you know,

755
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 12: for me, in the past, I've learned, you know, being

756
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 12: too vocal and too involved with trying to make you know,

757
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 12: I want this coach or I want this, Like I've

758
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 12: learned my lessons and I've learned from that and like

759
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 12: that's not my job. My job is to be the

760
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 12: best player I can possibly be. Be that guy in the

761
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 12: locker room every single day, the leader. That's who I

762
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 12: am to my core.

763
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: That's all I love.

764
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 12: That's all I care about in love is being the

765
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 12: best version of myself in that locker room and on

766
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 12: the field on Sundays and in practice and doing all

767
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 12: those in the weight room, leading, leading from the front,

768
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 12: not talking and you know, not leading every day. I

769
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 12: do it every single day. So that's what my importance is.

770
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 12: And nowadays, you know, especially like this past year year

771
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 12: and a half, like I'm not talking about stuff like

772
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 12: that because that's not my job.

773
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: And I've been.

774
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 12: Advised, Hey, Max, I think it would be best. You know,

775
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 12: some of the best mentors of my life. Max, just

776
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 12: I know you care, You're obsessed with about it. You

777
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 12: want to win no matter what, like, but some you

778
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 12: can't control everything.

779
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 5: And I've learned that. So now that I be quiet.

780
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 12: Now, Now that i'm quiet, now, I got random people

781
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 12: making big statements for me, and they're like oh, Max

782
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 12: must have told them this.

783
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: And this guy.

784
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 12: For me, I just sit back and laugh because I

785
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 12: know my truth. And when I go to bed at night,

786
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 12: I have a smile on my face because I don't

787
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 12: have to explain nothing to nobody. I've said it over

788
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 12: and over again. I'm getting healthy. I'm in the building

789
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 12: every single day. If I'm in this building before six

790
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 12: am and it's dark out, and I am in here

791
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 12: until almost two o'clock, almost eight hours, I'm putting in

792
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 12: straight work, rehabbing, lifting, getting prepared for the next season.

793
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 5: Like that's all that I care about. So all the

794
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 5: noise it's news to me.

795
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 12: Sometimes I got up yesterday I looked at my phone,

796
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 12: or two days ago, I looked at my phone, and

797
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, now I got a bunch of

798
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 12: PR people talking about what they you know, what Max

799
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 12: is doing, And it's like I just I just laugh

800
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 12: because if I address it, then someone's gonna pick apart

801
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 12: what I say there, So it's a lose lose.

802
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I'm getting healthy.

803
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be the best.

804
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 12: Version of myself upcoming this year, and I'm gonna put

805
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 12: myself in the best position to do that, and that's

806
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 12: by sharing, you know, taking care of myself and being

807
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 12: the version of myself on a daily basis.

808
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: My family's good.

809
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 12: My wife is doing incredible, my baby girls three, who's

810
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 12: running the house.

811
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 5: Uh, life is incredible. So I just try not to.

812
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 12: You know, I dress certain things because no matter what,

813
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 12: someone's gonna you know, pick it apart and make it

814
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 12: some some way.

815
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: So I'll let people do there talking.

816
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 12: All I'm all I'm about is action, my actions and

817
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 12: my actions. Everyone knows what my actions are. I do

818
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 12: the same thing every single day, and I'm gonna be

819
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 12: the hardest worker on the planet every single time.

820
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 5: So that's all I care about.

821
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: You played New England earlier this year and beat them,

822
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: and I can remember, uh, I remember the intensity of

823
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: the games. Your corners, Drake May was young and and

824
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: I remember staying on the air. I think New England's

825
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna get really good. But they got a lot of

826
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: new players, they got a lot of free agent money.

827
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: They didn't look quite organized yet. What what do you

828
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: remember about I think that game was in Foxborough. What

829
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: do you remember about that one?

830
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 9: Yeah?

831
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was week one.

832
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 12: You know, we're uh We're playing a team with a

833
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 12: new new head coach. They got a young quarterback, they

834
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 12: have Josh McDaniels, obviously I'm very familiar with and Pat.

835
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 12: You know, Pat Grammar decoordinator was hired by you know,

836
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 12: Josh to be the guy, so Pat knew him really well.

837
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 12: So I felt like, you know, going to that game,

838
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 12: we're extremely confident, and we went on the road and

839
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 12: got like a convincing win, you know what I mean.

840
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 12: And after that game, we're like, Okay, you know, we

841
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 12: were supposed to do that. Obviously, after that it didn't

842
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 12: really you know, the season didn't go the way we expected.

843
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 12: But that's a testament to Mike Rabel and that whole staff,

844
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 12: Josh McDaniels, Drake May.

845
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: They obviously took a lot of guys from my team.

846
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: That all some of my favorite teammates Roberts.

847
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 12: Fullane Leman, Chason, Matt Collins, like all the closest guys

848
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 12: I have are all gone down in the Super Bowl.

849
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 12: So it's really really dope to see. But I'm happy

850
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 12: for them, you know, the competitor of me, you know,

851
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 12: I obviously want to be playing right, not not sitting

852
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 12: here as much as I love you, Conn, I would not,

853
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 12: you know, I'd rather be in the Super Bowl getting.

854
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: Ready to go play. But those are my guys, so

855
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 5: I know.

856
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 12: The type of guys that they brought over there. They

857
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 12: are culture guys, guys that love the game and that

858
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 12: are going to go out there and do exactly what.

859
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: They need to do.

860
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 12: And that whole team you can see they're all on

861
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 12: the same page. They're not doing anything crazy, flashy. They're

862
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 12: not going out there running a bunch of wild, exotic looks.

863
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 12: They're out there executing and not losing the games. They're

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Speaker 1: How is your rehab going?

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Speaker 12: Uh, phenomenal. It's going going incredible. Like I said, you know,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 12: It's unfortunately it's been my eighth surgery, eight surgery in

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Speaker 3: Colin.

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Speaker 1: Good seeing you body. We'll see well. We'll spot each

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Speaker 1: other at a UFC fight soon.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you call me anytime. You're the man man all right?

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby, Uh just again, just what did you hear there? Gratitude, humility,

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Speaker 1: people doubting me, gratitude for the record. Remember this week

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Speaker 1: we were when when bow Nix and Sean Payton went

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Speaker 1: back and forth at each other about the surgery, and

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Speaker 1: I remember I sat on the air, I said, you

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Speaker 1: really have no idea how many surgeries these guys have.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. Max Crosby had eight surgeries. These

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Speaker 1: guys get cleaned up almost every year. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: annual surgeries. I will stand by this. Do whatever you

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Speaker 1: have to do in your life to get a sideline

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Speaker 1: pass once to an NFL game. You My takeaway is,

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Speaker 1: how how do you get to the end of a

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Speaker 1: how is it possible? It's like it's like just trains

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Speaker 1: colliding strong athletes. And one of the ways is you

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Speaker 1: you you get cleaned up fast. These guys are mid

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Speaker 1: season surgeries. Uh the train. I always defend officials. It's

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Speaker 1: one series in the NFL eight surgeries Max Crosby, and

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Speaker 1: he's one of the physically dominant players. He's hitting people.

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Speaker 1: They're not hitting him. He's hitting them blindsided.