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Speaker 1: Oh, here we go our two and a Tuesday. The

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Speaker 1: Herd Hierarchy and Nick Wright could be a bubbling, simmering controversy.

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Speaker 1: With the Lakers going on right now, things are getting very,

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Speaker 1: very interesting. I gotta tell you the I hope LA

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Speaker 1: sports fans. The Dodgers just signed Edwin Diaz, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are red hot, Harbaugh, and the Chargers and Herbert are

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Speaker 1: nine and four. Rams could be the best team in football.

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Speaker 1: And USC just signed the number one recruiting class. I

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Speaker 1: hope LA sports fans realize. I mean, the Clippers are

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Speaker 1: you know, shocking a circus, but most of their you know,

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Speaker 1: franchise history is littered with nonsense. But I'm just cities

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Speaker 1: go in cycles.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: LA is hot.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop waste any time. Let's get to our Herd

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Speaker 1: hierarchy right now.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to College Number ten.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, the Bills are flawed, but they have won

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Speaker 1: twelve straight home games in December and January, and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen has a career high completion percentage and yards for

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Speaker 1: attempt this season. I still think they're asking too much

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Speaker 1: of them, which is why they've had twelve giveaways in

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Speaker 1: five games. They're not a clean team. They can get sloppy.

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Speaker 1: They're bad against the run, although they've been a little

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Speaker 1: better in the last couple of weeks. I think the

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Speaker 1: reality is they'll go as far as Josh Allen can

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Speaker 1: take them. I don't trust them situationally. They were fumbling

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Speaker 1: near the goal line this week. I think right now

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the world, not the most decorated,

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Speaker 1: but the best is Josh Allen. But there's too many

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Speaker 1: questions for me. They sneak in at number ten.

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Speaker 2: Number nine.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are now five and zero in prime time

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Speaker 1: this season. They're a big stage team at least in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Thirteen and four under Jim Harbaugh in

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Speaker 1: the second half of seasons. That's best in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable with all their injuries the offensive line's atrocious, all

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Speaker 1: beat up. The running game depends on who's healthy. But

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Speaker 1: they have a great pass defense, best in the league

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Speaker 1: since Week eight. Between the head coach and the star

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Speaker 1: the Chargers at nine, number eight. I can't even figure

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Speaker 1: the number one scoring defense since Week eleven? Robert sala

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Speaker 1: but they've got five wins of ten plus or more

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Speaker 1: They don't get penalized. They've got two easy games coming up,

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Speaker 1: just had the bye San Francisco. Yes, they're two Christian

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Speaker 2: Number seven.

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Speaker 1: Texans have the best defense in the league, five game

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Speaker 1: I do like CJ.

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Speaker 1: They have played the fourth hardest schedule in the league,

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Speaker 1: it to the Bears. They lead the NFL in turnover differential.

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Speaker 1: They run the football, they can win time of possession.

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Speaker 1: People bang on Caleb Williams completing fifty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: I think their biggest issue they give up six point

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Speaker 1: You can't get to their quarterback. They always get to yours.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna serve them well in the playoffs. Offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's got a number one after a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I love their roster. I really like their roster.

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Speaker 1: I wish their quarterback wasn't this uneven, but I have

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Speaker 3: Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I may have them low, best third down offense, tied

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Speaker 1: I thought last year they were a bit too young.

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Speaker 1: I love that Christian Watson is healthy because Jordan love

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Speaker 1: like a Sam Darnold loves to throw the deep ball

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Speaker 1: Mica trade was brilliant.

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Speaker 3: Not all was bad for Dallas.

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Speaker 1: But it was brilliant because they're gonna lead a lot

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Speaker 3: I have Green Bay at three.

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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 1: Patriots were idle. I have them at two ten to zero,

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Speaker 3: Are they a bit young? Is Drake may ready listen?

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Speaker 1: They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That needs to be noted. Houston could be better.

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Speaker 1: Houston's played the fourth hardest schedule, so I think they're

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Speaker 1: a little harder to judge team. We know the coach

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Speaker 1: them at two. On the Rams boy was Devonte Adams

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Speaker 1: you may have noticed I do not have Philadelphia in.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I think their coach is coordinator dependent, and their quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia is an if quarterback, he's circumstantial. If the

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Speaker 1: Saquan's having a great year, I have Philadelphia at eleven.

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Speaker 1: And with that, Nick Wright joining us on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: First things first, All right, Eagles not in. I'm not

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Speaker 1: judging rosters. I'm judging how are you today. I don't

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Speaker 1: love Buffalo. They should have lost, and I don't like

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Speaker 1: what I see from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Any major complaints.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree with you on Philadelphia. I disagree with

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Speaker 4: you on Buffalo. Let's start with Philly.

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Speaker 5: Yet.

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Speaker 4: You can't be the quarterback who might be limited but

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Speaker 4: always wins and never turns the ball over and then

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Speaker 4: have a three game losing streak because you keep turning

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Speaker 4: the ball over Like that doesn't work. Other quarterbacks can

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Speaker 4: get away with some rough moments because their high moments

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Speaker 4: are what carries you that hasn't been jailing. And I

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Speaker 4: am really concerned about the Eagles, and I've been saying

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Speaker 4: this all year when the last half of the year

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Speaker 4: when there seems like once again there is some real

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Speaker 4: uneasiness within the locker room about the offense that for

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Speaker 4: different reasons but a very similar timeline. This reminds me

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Speaker 4: a lot as a player, and seemingly as relationship with

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Speaker 4: his teammates of Russell Wilson in Seattle Little they both

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Speaker 4: went to two Super Bowls. They Russ won the first,

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Speaker 4: lost the second. Jalen did it in the reverse order.

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Speaker 4: They're both excellent deep ball throwers and efficient short throwers,

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Speaker 4: want to be, yet didn't seemingly get all the credit

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Speaker 4: for the championship.

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Speaker 5: And also there seems to be a.

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Speaker 4: Real disconnect between the player, the quarterback and the rest

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Speaker 4: of the locker room that came to a head in Seattle,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's coming to a head in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: And that interception last night, Colin, not that one or

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Speaker 4: ten and overtime, you just can't. And so yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I don't I know what his record is and it's unbelievable,

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Speaker 4: and Jalen to his credit, is a great, big game quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Great we've seen him play excellent in two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: But I also know what Sirianni's record is, and it's

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Speaker 4: alongside John Madden for the best winning percentage for a

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Speaker 4: get it right, and I don't think an inflatable bunny

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Speaker 5: Locker room fixes it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And if I sound a little extra harsh, sorry

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Speaker 4: to keep ranting. It's because misery loves company, Colin. And

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Speaker 4: if the Chiefs are going down, we're pulling a lot

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Speaker 4: of teams with us.

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Speaker 1: Well, yesterday we were all concerned at Fox Sports when

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Speaker 1: I turned on your show and I saw a stretcher

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Speaker 1: come out. Now, you did have a pack of smoke,

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Speaker 1: so that let me know you were still breathing.

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Speaker 3: But there was a lot of concern here.

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Speaker 4: Explain you were so concerned.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why you checked in on me. You're so worried.

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Speaker 4: You were laughing, making fun of me, you and j

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Speaker 4: Mack going over what should have been your freezing cold

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Speaker 4: off season takes and instead reveling and them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, I said yesterday, is it a reboot

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Speaker 1: or a subtle re build. This may not just be

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Speaker 1: a tweak and they can do it. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you could see what Mike Vrabel did. It's and you

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Speaker 1: have Mahomes and Andy Reid. I gotta when I watched

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Speaker 1: Seattle and the Rams, and when I watched the Texans

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Speaker 1: and I see the athleticism and the speed and the youth.

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Speaker 1: Are the Chiefs that rebuild this point?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, You're never rebuild if you have one of

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Speaker 4: the greatest quarterbacks ever you know, in his prime. But

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Speaker 4: they listen, this isn't a fluke.

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Speaker 5: Just like last year.

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Speaker 4: I was adamant that that team was a great team

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Speaker 4: and everyone's like, but the margin of victory in the

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Speaker 4: close wins. Winning in the NFL is a skill. Like

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Speaker 4: a great tennis player understands there's like four or five

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Speaker 4: points in the match that actually matter. I'm gonna win those.

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Speaker 4: The Chiefs last year understood that, and this year they

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Speaker 4: these games, they've been at their worst.

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Speaker 5: And it started.

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Speaker 4: I can chapter and verse it just quickly for you.

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Speaker 5: Correct it.

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Speaker 1: not all even I said earlier. Some quarterbacks are hot

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Speaker 4: But who in all of a sudden new age Colin

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Speaker 5: So I listen. I know you're very new age. It's,

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Speaker 4: Have been the biggest Justin Herbert defenders that are like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like, just watch him throw? Are gonna now with yesterday?

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Speaker 1: So I'm a college football die hard. I thought Miami

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Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna love this, Colin. So I,

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Speaker 4: After that I simply don't care. And you're lucky you

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Speaker 1: The more you expand the playoff, the surlier the arguments get.

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Speaker 1: The more you end the country club, the more people go, well,

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Speaker 4: But what I like about it is it makes the

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Speaker 4: And I also do like the fact that Duke didn't

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Speaker 4: no shot of winning the whole thing having it be

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Speaker 4: a one loss James Madison as opposed to a five loss.

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Speaker 5: Duke, I like that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, because of hippolaws, we can't tell you

442
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Speaker 1: what was wrong with Nick Right yesterday, but the video

443
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Speaker 1: is so dramatic. Let's show it again, broken heart, Colin,

444
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Speaker 1: that's what's wrong, broken heart. And I'll tell you one

445
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Speaker 1: other thing because I might have to hit you off

446
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Speaker 1: the air for you know, a bridge loan. It's also

447
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this video to all my creditors after

448
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: this football season because I'm being reminded that all my

449
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Speaker 1: preseason futures bets I tied, and the Chiefs making the

450
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Speaker 1: playoffs to them to get a little extra juice.

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Speaker 5: And now all all that's.

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Speaker 4: Come and do on me, buddy, I'm a I'm in

453
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Speaker 4: a rough way. I'm in a rough rough way.

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Speaker 1: My friend, well, Sam Darnold can still win a Super Bowl,

455
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Speaker 1: so A'll be the medic that saves your life.

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Speaker 3: That's all, well, thank god.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, buddy, But more than that, I just

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Speaker 4: need some money.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you later, Colin.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nick Wright, First things first, very funny show yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the you know, you expand the playoffs to me and

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Speaker 1: everybody says, Okay, that'll solve it. No, it just opens

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Speaker 1: up more arguments. I think we had an amazing college

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Speaker 1: football season. I loved it. I thought the committee mostly

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Speaker 1: got it right, and if you want to expand it,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing I'll say is everybody kept

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Speaker 1: telling me blowing up the Pac twelve would ruin college football. Didn't,

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Speaker 1: Nil would ruin college football?

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Speaker 5: Didn't.

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Speaker 1: Transfer portal was bad for college football, isn't. They're not perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean the transfer portal feels sometimes moving a little

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Speaker 1: fast for my taste. But coaches are moving all over

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Speaker 1: the place. They're Lane Kiffin's leave it in the middle

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Speaker 3: Are you doing that Laker controversy? Why are you teasing

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Speaker 3: the good stuff?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Say much?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the NFL schedule next week? Oh my

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Speaker 1: wait next week or this week?

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Speaker 3: The coming up this week? This week has five double

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Speaker 3: digit favorites.

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Speaker 1: I think Rams Lions. Okay, well that again, it's like

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Speaker 1: Fox is on a heater. That one is a great game.

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Speaker 1: Do we have the rating in for Green Bay Chicago

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Speaker 1: this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Seventy five min nine. I'm telling you that thing was gripping.

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Speaker 1: It was everything traditional rivals, cold Weather close.

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Speaker 6: Game that that or the World Cup bracket reveal and

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Speaker 6: the pools.

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Speaker 3: That was fun. We liked that. I was great. J

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Speaker 3: Mackle the news, Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd line of horse.

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Speaker 6: We got some breaking news out of Andy Collin yesterday.

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Speaker 6: We talked about Philip Rivers. Maybe going to the Colts. Well,

511
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Speaker 6: it's official. He's been signed to the practice squad. Yes,

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Speaker 6: forty four year old Philip Rivers. He's a grandfather.

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Speaker 3: Did you know this?

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Speaker 1: Forty four years old grandfather? He played old when he

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Speaker 1: was thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Bro, so he's older.

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Speaker 6: According to the staff, he's older than the head coach,

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Speaker 6: Shane Psyche. I don't even know what to make of this.

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Speaker 6: Now here's the reason why he signed. Ridley Leonard is

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Speaker 6: the number two.

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Speaker 3: But he's hurt.

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Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson's on IR. This is how crazy their season

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Speaker 6: has been. He was working with bands. I know, you

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Speaker 6: go to the gym and use those bands. It snapped

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Speaker 6: back and broke his orbital bone, like early in the season.

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Speaker 3: He's out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's dangerous to put Philip Rivers

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Speaker 6: on the field in Seattle. The line has ballooned to

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Speaker 6: thirteen and a half Colin. This is when I say dangerous.

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Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. I joked on social media.

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Speaker 6: This is like when Apollo Creed went to fight Ivan

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Speaker 6: Drago and Rocky four and literally got killed. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Philip Rivers hasn't played football in five years.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's a he's big, thick, strong, smart, he like

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Speaker 1: he'll no, he can't move.

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Speaker 6: You've seen you can talk about Dexter Lawrence in that

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Speaker 6: defensive front. Those guys are nasty. No, DeMarcus Marcus Lawd's

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Speaker 6: sorry you look at that. Honestly, the front seven of Seattle,

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Speaker 6: what they've done.

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Speaker 3: To some galba. I want to read that.

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Speaker 1: The staff just sent me this colin other quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: had played at forty four, and I remember this George

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Speaker 1: Bland with the Raiders and athletes are in much better

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Speaker 1: shape now. Warren Moon Chiefs two thousand. Vinnie Testaverdi remember

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Speaker 1: that Tom Brady Buccaneers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but the defenders now are bigger, faster and stronger.

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Speaker 3: They're scary. I'm just telling you, man, this is not

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Speaker 3: a smart I'm surprised the line isn't like twenty.

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Speaker 6: Well, remember Seahawks have the Rams next week on Thursday

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Speaker 6: Night football, so they're not going to give him max

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Speaker 6: effort to power down once this is twenty four to

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Speaker 6: six and then just coast.

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Speaker 1: So I love Philip Rivers. I love that he's like,

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Speaker 1: saddle up, let's go.

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Speaker 3: Troy.

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Speaker 1: Troy Aigman told a Stroy a year he was retired

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Speaker 1: for like four or five years. People came after him

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Speaker 1: when he was retired.

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Speaker 6: Well remember Frank Rag now the center of the Lion's

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Speaker 6: right to come back. And they're like, oh, you have

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Speaker 6: a torn hamstring, bro, you can't play football.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 6: I think I think this ten Rivers past the physical

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Speaker 6: is impressive.

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Speaker 1: I bet you Matt Ryan's been called. He just retired

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Speaker 1: a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: So he's like, he's in the booth with say.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee if Matt Ryan got called by somebody, Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 6: You're telling me there's no young guy you would feel.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Josh Doop sports he doing okay. Remember we're

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Speaker 6: good at NASA or so. Well, remember it is what

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Speaker 6: is at week fifteen. So there's just a lot of

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Speaker 6: beat up quarterbacks. Yeah, and you know, I've argued for

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Speaker 6: years the NFL needs to expand its roster to carry

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Speaker 6: another quarterback somewhere. This is a I love Philip so much,

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Speaker 6: but he played old in his late thirties. I mean

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Speaker 6: Brady felt. I mean I watched Brady on the broadcast.

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Speaker 6: You could never guess his age. I mean he looks

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Speaker 6: and feels young. This is uh, it's it's gonna make

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Speaker 6: me watch. So the Cults are fighting for their playoff lives.

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Speaker 6: The schedules tough, Colin. They're not getting in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: It's over and that Sauce Gardner deal will look horrible.

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Speaker 6: He's out with the calf still. I mean, look at

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Speaker 6: the schedule. Where's a win here? Who are they beating?

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Speaker 1: No, this schedule is bru I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: last month in the league.

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Speaker 6: It's certainly up there. The Chargers have a tough one.

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Speaker 6: But this is like the Niners and Robert Sala. You

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Speaker 6: know that Jags have some edge rushers and the Texans

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Speaker 6: has shown against Patrick Mahones.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to face them.

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Speaker 6: All right, Let's move on to uh let's go to

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Speaker 6: another team on the West coast. That's the Rams. They

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Speaker 6: slaughtered the Cardinals really easy. Dub forty five seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Kuka Nakua is having yeah and absolutely unbelieved. He and

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams are the best one two in the league.

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Higgins two. Those two are both Pro bowlers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. Here's McVeigh on his team performance in

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Speaker 6: the blowout.

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Speaker 7: I thought the guys did a great job. This is

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Speaker 7: this is a mentally tough group. This is a resilient group.

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Speaker 7: You know, you got to earn it. And and I

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Speaker 7: thought they had a great week of preparation. I thought

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Speaker 7: even just the maturity of even some of the stuff

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Speaker 7: where I wasn't around a little bit just because of

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Speaker 7: what I was dealing with. Just the way they handle it.

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Speaker 7: These are grown men, you know, and they do such

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Speaker 7: a great job of this is a player led team.

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Speaker 7: And and really I can't say enough about what are

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Speaker 7: a great job our coaches do.

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Speaker 5: I don't mean that to be minimizing them.

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Speaker 7: At all, but we got a lot of really great

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Speaker 7: leaders in that locker room.

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Speaker 1: And they are healthy. Jason there usually this time of

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Speaker 1: the year you're banged up. The rams are hot, hungry, healthy,

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Speaker 1: and when that.

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Speaker 6: Bull gets rolling with that offense, oh hair a machine.

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Speaker 6: I mean Kyrin Williams, Blake Korham, Blake Koram's playing now.

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Speaker 6: We thought last year now had didn't he break his

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Speaker 6: rent an injury, but the sh a couple of fumbles

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Speaker 6: too that they were like, Now Blake Korham is awrise,

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Speaker 6: he's nice.

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Speaker 1: And now the Terrence ferguson the tight end out of Oregon,

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Speaker 1: like they don't miss them all.

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Speaker 3: Draft picks either.

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Speaker 6: You know, we don't like to fire coaches here, but

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Speaker 6: a lot of Arizona fans are like, yo, it's over Forgannon.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was listless, terrible performance. Final story.

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Speaker 6: This is the one you were teasing. Oh boy, I

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Speaker 6: don't love this. Colin rich Paul is Lebron's guy. They've

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Speaker 6: been tight forever. He's his agent. He went on a

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Speaker 6: podcast and said a lot of stuff. Now you know,

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Speaker 6: the conspiracy theorist will say he's a mouthpiece for Lebron here.

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Speaker 6: But you watch the video during the break, the Lakers, remember,

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Speaker 6: are seventeen and six second in the West.

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Speaker 3: Behind Okase, that's true.

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Speaker 6: Rich Paul was like, yeah, I don't really think we're contenders.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 8: I personally don't think the Lakers are good enough to

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Speaker 8: be contenders right.

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Speaker 3: Now, not right now.

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Speaker 2: When you say contenders, what do you mean?

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Speaker 8: I don't think they have enough to get to the

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Speaker 8: Western Conference. Fine, I don't think they have enough to

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Speaker 8: get to really contend. From that person, so as currently constructed,

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Speaker 8: you don't love the Lakers chances?

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Speaker 3: No, now there.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. They're not good enough athletically on the wing.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a good offensive teams will eat them

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Speaker 1: alive in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: When you can play a team six seven times, you

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Speaker 3: know this. It's difference between going on a date.

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Speaker 1: And being married, and when you're married, you argue about

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Speaker 1: stuff because you're around each other all the time. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers are a hard team to prepare for it because

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Speaker 1: they're so good offensively, Reddick Austin, Lebron Lucas the best

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Speaker 1: offensive player. So when they just come into town and

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Speaker 1: you get one prep film session, it's like they're a handful.

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Speaker 1: But if I play the Lakers over the course of

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Speaker 1: a series, and I can go, oh, they can't defend

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Speaker 1: the wing, and Lebron's going to give you at this

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Speaker 1: point maybe two really good games in a series and

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Speaker 1: three or four average games in a series. Luca, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can pick on him defensively, they have no rim protector.

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Speaker 1: So this happens all the time. Remember those Houston Rocket

666
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Speaker 1: teams with Harden, You're like, they're amazing in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Harden doesn't defend, So I think Chris Paul's you think

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Speaker 1: he's picking on who.

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Speaker 6: So if you watch the full video, essentially Rich Paul

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Speaker 6: is being a mouth piece for Lebron and saying we

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Speaker 6: don't have enough right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, we can't defend on the wing. We're not

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Speaker 3: athletic enough.

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Speaker 6: And this is coded about Austin Reeves, and it really

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Speaker 6: sounds a lot of Laker fans are angry right now

676
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Speaker 6: that Lebron and Rich Paul are trying to get Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 6: Move for Yannis, bring Gianni's here, then we'll have enough

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Speaker 6: to battle. Okce, Colin, I don't like this at all. Okay,

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Speaker 6: the Lakers love Austin Reeves, they love them.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to trade him.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: If you bring on Yannis, that's another story.

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Speaker 6: But the reality is like, this is not what you

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Speaker 6: need when you're seventeen and six and second in the West.

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Speaker 6: This is now a diversion. This is all the Lakers

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Speaker 6: are going to be asked about. Lebron's of course saying

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Speaker 6: all the right things. I love Austin, that's my guy.

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Speaker 6: Why would your best friend and agent come on here

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Speaker 6: and say the Lakers are not good enough when they're

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Speaker 6: seventeen and.

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Speaker 1: Six, Well, because they're not. That's called contextualization. Rich Paul

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Speaker 1: is saying, don't be fooled by records. It's like in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, we say this all the time. Everybody goes crazy.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins are on fire in Miami, it's September.

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Speaker 1: They're not built for late in the season, though they're

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Speaker 1: playing well. Now, what he's basically saying is this is great,

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Speaker 1: but look at the Tea Wolves and OKAC, and you

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Speaker 1: start looking at these Western teams san Antonio, those teams

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Speaker 1: are better defenders, better rim protectors, better wing defender. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: San Antonio is built for a long series. So is

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Speaker 1: okayc so is Denver. The Lakers are built to come

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Speaker 1: into town and beat you because they have three great

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Speaker 1: play initiators, but they've got holes in the roster. And

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Speaker 1: I appreciate, I appreciate anybody who isn't a fan bull.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with Rich Paul here.

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Speaker 6: It's less about do you agree with them, it's do

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Speaker 6: you think when you're seventeen and six in Riding Eye

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Speaker 6: you want.

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Speaker 3: Basically he's got a new podcasts, but do you want Lebron?

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Speaker 6: This is essentially Lebron saying we're not good enough when

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Speaker 6: we're great?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's do you want that? Because how do you

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Speaker 3: get better?

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Speaker 5: You trade them?

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Speaker 1: So you're assuming this is this is on talking.

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Speaker 6: I know Rich Paul. I think it's Rich Paul talking.

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Speaker 6: I would hope, so I can't. This feels like sabotage,

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Speaker 6: does it?

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Speaker 5: Not know?

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul's a pretty successful, strong guy. Nobody's gonna force

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Speaker 1: him to say anything. He's got a new podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Simmons Group, and so I think this is an

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Speaker 1: authentic opinion.

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Speaker 3: It's right.

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Speaker 6: Some of the advanced stats tend to agree they're not

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Speaker 6: great with the point differential.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you offensively, they can hang with anybody.

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Speaker 6: They've also had Lebron Reeves and Luca for what like

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Speaker 6: five games together. Can we give it a little more

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Speaker 6: time to breathe like, yes, you're right, No, rim protective

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Speaker 6: of Colin. This is not what you need ahead of

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Speaker 6: this Spurs game. This is all the Lakers are gonna

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Speaker 6: ask JJ Reddick. By the way, Reddick was at the

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Speaker 6: Eagles game last night. My buddy's ran into him. Lebron Reeves, Luke,

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Speaker 6: that's all they're gonna talk. We don't need this crap.

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Speaker 6: Sorry for what is this weed? Sorry for the wee

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Speaker 6: are you on the roster? I may be a towel boy,

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Speaker 6: you know During the NBA Cup figure Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 1: get we get sold. There are so many good rivalry

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Speaker 6: eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: So Rich Paul Lebron's agent, right, Max Kellerman I got

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Speaker 1: a new podcast, and this is the one that got

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Speaker 1: j macall worked up, is that Rich Paul in One

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Speaker 1: of the bites is essentially saying this Laker team is fun,

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Speaker 1: but eventually Austin Reeves becomes a major liability.

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Speaker 3: Here's the bite.

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Speaker 8: When you have the talent up top that they have,

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Speaker 8: those guys can win games.

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Speaker 3: Lebron and Luca, but also Austin's Austin taking a step.

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Speaker 8: Then when you go into the playoffs, we seen last

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Speaker 8: year they ran into athleticism and length, they struggled going

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Speaker 8: back to the championship organization versus the organization with championships,

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Speaker 8: the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: On the Spurs, he'd be the sixth man, right, especially in.

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Speaker 8: The Durs made that decision, and you know what Jenobi did,

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Speaker 8: embraced it right and how many championships they win?

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Speaker 3: Five?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's those type of decisions to be made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So so basically they're saying is, you know, Austin Reeves

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Speaker 1: is first guy off the bench on a great team.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But but eventually he'll be exposed in the postseason, which

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Speaker 1: is what happened last year, which it it got. You

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Speaker 1: know these guys you love, Brock Purty, Jalen Herds, Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 1: I know the story is great, but they do get

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Speaker 1: like Austin Reeves gets exposed athletically playoffs in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: they swallow the whistle, so you can bully Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 3: He's not a super long player.

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Speaker 1: He's aggressive, he works his butt off, you can bully him.

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Speaker 1: He's not that strong, he's not very long. In the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the ref swallowed the whistle, so Austin was not a

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Speaker 1: great playoff guy. But in the in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: where they kind of just let you play. You know,

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Speaker 1: they call more whistles, He initiates contact, Austin gets to

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Speaker 1: the line. He's a twenty point guy. So I can

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Speaker 1: like Austin Reeves in one setting. It's like Tua in

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Speaker 1: the sun is wonderful, two in the wind not my

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Speaker 1: favorite quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I love how Austin Reeves is having the best season

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Speaker 6: of his career.

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Speaker 3: He's a lot to be an All Star.

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Speaker 6: We were on this over six weeks ago, and what

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Speaker 6: we're doing is having Lebron's best guy come out and

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Speaker 6: slander Austin Reaves. Yeah, he's a good sixth man. What

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Speaker 6: is happening, Colin? Where's the agenda here? You know what

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Speaker 6: this is doing. This is deflecting away from Lebron because

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Speaker 6: I think everybody knows this is probably his final year

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Speaker 6: with the Lakers, right unless he takes a dramatic pay.

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Speaker 1: Austin has been the better player this year on the

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Speaker 1: Lakers over Lebron, at least in terms of consistency.

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Speaker 3: I like Lebron.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be bashing him here, but Colin,

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Speaker 6: let's talk through this.

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Speaker 3: We had a minute.

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Speaker 6: What's what's Lebron's game plan in the offseason because a

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Speaker 6: ain't nobody paying him.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're forty fifty million new owners. This is it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, JJ, Reddick Luca or the future Austin Reeves is

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Speaker 1: up for discussion.

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Speaker 3: Lebron's not the future. I get that. So where then

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Speaker 3: what becomes of Lebron? He it's over, So he's going to.

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Speaker 6: Retire because I'm telling you, Charlotte's not giving him thirty

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Speaker 6: million dollars a year money.

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Speaker 3: It's over. He's not going anymore.

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Speaker 6: So this is to me them getting ahead of that

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Speaker 6: and trying to prolong his career by bringing in Giannis

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Speaker 6: and moving Austin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Probably, I don't like that. That's a dirty game. It's

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Speaker 6: the game play basketball.

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Speaker 5: Lebron.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you know, have you seen the numbers on him?

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Speaker 6: He's not getting to the rim like he used to. Well,

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Speaker 6: come finish, you get the rim like he used to.

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Speaker 3: It's his last year in the league.

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Speaker 6: So aren't we talking about that instead of getting Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 6: who's having the life career season.

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Speaker 3: Why aren't we talking about that? I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: think you're reading like this drama. Stay out here next week,

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Speaker 3: my friend, don't go home. We need more Lakers content.

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Speaker 1: In between, we got a great last hour. Joel Klatt's

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Speaker 1: gonna stop by. Do not shed a tear for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I thought I always was a Notre Dame guy. I

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Speaker 1: said this the La Times yesterday. Finally came to my side.

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Speaker 1: USC does not need Notre Dame. Notre Dame getting left

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Speaker 1: out needs USC. Jen Cohen, you've got the leverage, use it.

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Speaker 3: Hour three Neck