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Speaker 1: All right, Johnny, I mentioned franchise mode. You've been breaking

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Speaker 1: down the quarterback class for the NFL Draft. It's on

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Speaker 1: know why we did this, Johnny Manziel analyzing NFL draft quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Why I think for me analyzing this draft of quarterbacks, drafting,

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Speaker 3: or just like looking at quarterbacks in general. For me,

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Speaker 3: as I watch football today in today's day and age,

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Speaker 3: that I was taught, which is through these NFL coaches eyes,

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Speaker 3: through the eyes of Kyle Shanahan, through the eyes of

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Speaker 3: and that's something that you know, contradicts I think a

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Speaker 1: When you say you're watching it, now, what are you

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Speaker 3: You're looking for things to jump off the page. You know,

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Speaker 1: And I know you want to dig on you want

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Speaker 1: Penix head of the curve on Penick Simon, what have

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Speaker 2: Just a bunch of different stuff, But I think it's

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Speaker 4: But a lot of these teams. I fell in love

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Speaker 2: Think a lot of guys they look at Penis and

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Speaker 2: Johnny's taken why he's ranked him at number two against

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Speaker 3: And you know, all the things that I spoke positively

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Speaker 1: But if he's going to be better than somebody, then

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Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels is still going to go second quarterback off

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Speaker 4: But there is something you do dislike because you have

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Speaker 3: I think it's my list, right. I think it's who

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Speaker 3: Daniels throws the football as well as Michael Pennock Junior does.

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Speaker 3: That's what I see as a fit from college quarterback

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that way about anybody else in this class.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's great. I mean that's exactly sort of

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Speaker 1: You mentioned fit. You have a lot of experience with FIT,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those things like do you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, just I had to fall

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Speaker 4: Of way again.

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Speaker 2: Fit is very important what he's talking about. I think

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Speaker 2: He remember we got to the league. It was like

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Speaker 1: when you were at A and M, especially your freshman year,

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Speaker 1: obviously you guys kind of came out of nowhere, and

439
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Speaker 1: as there's always the as sort of always happens, betters

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Speaker 1: see ahead of the curve, and so professional betters were

441
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Speaker 1: just making bank on A and M games your freshman year.

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Speaker 1: How do you get treated in the years after that,

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Speaker 1: even to beat like those first couple of years when

444
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Speaker 1: you're going to Vegas and you're Johnny Football and you've

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Speaker 1: been making professional betters six figures, seventh figures over the

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Speaker 1: course of a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I run into people probably every single week, whether

448
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Speaker 3: it's professional betters or people. Every single week. One of

449
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Speaker 3: my conversations is somebody comes up and taps me on

450
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Speaker 3: the shoulder and goes, I made so much money off

451
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Speaker 3: if you gambling in college, thank you. I've always wanted

452
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Speaker 3: to meet you, and I really do, truly hear that

453
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Speaker 3: every week in my life. It's hilarious. So you know,

454
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Speaker 3: we were underdogs in a lot of those games at

455
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Speaker 3: Texas A and M fifteen and a half point underdogs

456
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Speaker 3: at Alabama, like as we crowned up and came out

457
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Speaker 3: of nowhere. If you rode our eleven and two season

458
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Speaker 3: that year, I bet we almost covered probably every single

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Speaker 3: game in there that first year. Now next year, you know,

460
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Speaker 3: we probably had a couple of heartbreaks in there, being

461
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Speaker 3: top five in the country, and it might have given

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Speaker 3: a little bit of money back. But I know that

463
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Speaker 3: first year people were making some money on some money

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Speaker 3: lines throughout there. I know that.

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Speaker 1: I know you're looking at one of them, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't me.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't feel too bad, giant. The

468
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Speaker 2: difference between Rose and regular people as we ride the

469
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Speaker 2: wave and then we know when they get off, when

470
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Speaker 2: the public stays on the wave. So no, don't worry, brother,

471
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Speaker 2: We played both sides. So we love you in every

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Speaker 2: way you can imagine, no doubt appreciate your brother.

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Speaker 3: That's much love.

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Speaker 1: When you're thinking about how much do you actually bet? Now,

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Speaker 1: I know we talked about this. When you look at

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Speaker 1: college especially college football, where I feel like you've got

477
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Speaker 1: a real advantage in how you think about the game,

478
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Speaker 1: how much you're actually betting on it.

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Speaker 3: A really good sweat last night. I bet the freaking

480
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City money line last night and really got out

481
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Speaker 3: of that because I was laying a lot of juice

482
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Speaker 3: and that came down to a testy, little shy bucket

483
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Speaker 3: there at the end to get me over the hump.

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Speaker 3: But I took the Pelicans in the first round against

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Speaker 3: the Kings. Then I had to fade them last night

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Speaker 3: in Game one, So I probably would have been easier

487
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Speaker 3: about to just take the plus eight. But I'm getting

488
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Speaker 3: I'm out here, you know, looking and getting locked in

489
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Speaker 3: a little bit NBA playoff time. I'm definitely more of

490
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Speaker 3: a college football better, So you know, once training camp

491
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Speaker 3: comes around a little bit, I start to do a

492
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Speaker 3: little research. There's always a lot of value in college

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Speaker 3: football teams, and early in the season if you can

494
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Speaker 3: pick right and you can get on these right teams

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Speaker 3: that are a little undervalued. Usually it's teams that are

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Speaker 3: lingering around the eleven to twenty five ranked and the

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Speaker 3: a people. If you're in that window, your spreads are

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Speaker 3: going to be a little bit different, and you're going

499
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Speaker 3: to come out and if your team is good from

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Speaker 3: the year before and it transitions over, you can usually

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Speaker 3: find some value early on in college football season, and

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Speaker 3: like bride those teams for the first three or four

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Speaker 3: games until they get into their bigger games, because there's

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Speaker 3: blowouts on the schedule in college football. And I love

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Speaker 3: nothing more than easy covers, no sweats.

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Speaker 1: Well, brother, if you're bet in NBA playoffs money line

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Speaker 1: and like pals in the first round, like dude, that

508
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Speaker 1: is that's legit gambling right there. That's around.

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Speaker 3: No, I still got a little bit of like I

510
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Speaker 3: still I mean, I've lived my life by the gamble.

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Speaker 3: If I'm like, if I'm playing golf in Scottsdale my

512
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Speaker 3: daily life and I'm playing golf three or four days

513
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Speaker 3: a week, you know you're not stepping on the course

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Speaker 3: with me for under, you know, two three, four, five

515
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Speaker 3: hundred bucks, Like that's just what we're going to do.

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Speaker 3: So it translates into the basketball stuff and the football.

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Speaker 3: I mean, betting's here and it's here to stay. And

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Speaker 3: I live in a state like Arizona where it's very

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Speaker 3: easily accessible, and you know, I love it, always have always.

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Speaker 1: Well, where are you on the draft right now? So

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Speaker 1: one of the bigger bets that a lot of people

522
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Speaker 1: are talking about over four and a half quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Do you have a position on that

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: That's a really good line. I think it's going to

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Speaker 3: come down to how quick they come off. So if

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Speaker 3: you get that that line hits, it has a better chance. Really,

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Speaker 3: another way to look at it is two and a

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Speaker 3: half over the last thirty picks, And that's another kind

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Speaker 3: of way to look at it, because I believe one

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Speaker 3: and two are already locked in with quarterbacks. You know,

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Speaker 3: my class was a year that I thought a lot

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Speaker 3: of quarterbacks would come off the board, and then we

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Speaker 3: really only had two or three in the first I

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Speaker 3: think Teddy ended up going with the last pick of

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Speaker 3: the first so we had three. But it was another

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Speaker 3: like four and a half type of line like that,

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Speaker 3: And I remember like it was yesterday. So if I

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Speaker 3: had to bet on this, I would probably take the

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Speaker 3: over on four and a half going in the first round.

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Speaker 3: It's really right on the button. I think it could

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Speaker 3: be four five wouldn't surprise me. But I think that

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Speaker 3: half a point's going to be a lot sat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit of a scary bet because

545
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Speaker 2: it felt easier a month ago we talked about just

546
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Speaker 2: because it felt like the bow Nix thing was going

547
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Speaker 2: to happen. Right here, we're kind of like somebody who's

548
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Speaker 2: going with that fifteen pick or fourteen to Denver. I mean,

549
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Speaker 2: Denver's been kind of quiet about it. Now. No one

550
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Speaker 2: knows is Denver the team that's going to sneakily move

551
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Speaker 2: up to that Patriots position or the number four pick,

552
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna be the ones that take Drake May

553
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Speaker 2: or JJ because everyone just penciled into Vikings.

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Speaker 4: So to me, I believe there's going to be five

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Speaker 4: in the first I just not even that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think bon Nix is worthy of a

557
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Speaker 2: first round pick, but all on, it takes one team

558
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Speaker 2: to fall in love with them.

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Speaker 4: But I've stand by with Gianny talked about Penix.

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Speaker 2: It's like Pennix has answered the questions, Like there were

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Speaker 2: so many questions that he shouldn't be a first round pick,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's earned the right. He's moved up

563
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Speaker 2: from a second round pick to a first round pick

564
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Speaker 2: to a lot of people I've spoken to, So to me,

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Speaker 2: the minus two hundred minus two fifty, the odds or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is now for the over four and a

567
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Speaker 2: half quarterbacks. I think it's a fair number just because

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Speaker 2: when the draft comes, teams trying to make the move.

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Speaker 2: I mean, last year the bet didn't come through, but

570
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Speaker 2: the Titans were trying to move back in to get

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Speaker 2: a quarterback in the first round. Teams just went to

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Speaker 2: trade with So we know that teams do try to

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Speaker 2: make this move. It's all about what other teams want

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Speaker 2: to do. So this fella, like a slam Duncan's going

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Speaker 2: to be a sweat now to me, right if whatever

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Speaker 2: Denver does at that pick fourteen fifteen, now it becomes

577
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Speaker 2: a sweat because we need to hope for a team

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Speaker 2: to trade back in, and other teams can just come

579
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Speaker 2: back and sandback teams being like, no, we're not letting

580
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Speaker 2: you trade back in unless you give us a crazy offer.

581
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Speaker 2: So I still like the bet, but it definitely not

582
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Speaker 2: as clear cut clear as it was a couple of

583
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Speaker 2: months ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing. I think Jaydon Daniels, Drake May,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, and Pendix all deserve probably to go in

586
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Speaker 3: the first round. Yeah, where's your fifth is it? JJ McCarthy,

587
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Speaker 3: does he guarantee that he's going to go in the

588
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Speaker 3: first round. I don't know about that. I wouldn't like

589
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Speaker 3: putting my money on that that he does for sure,

590
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Speaker 3: and then bow knicks as well. How do you get

591
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Speaker 3: to five is really the question when you're talking about

592
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Speaker 3: that bet, because I would feel really comfortable for how

593
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Speaker 3: do you get over the hook? Is the real question?

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're if you're the Vikings, are you trading

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Speaker 1: up to get JJ McCarthy. You've got a lot of assets, right,

596
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Speaker 1: can you package something and get yourself into a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that you truly believe in? You have not been as

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Speaker 1: high on JJ McCarthy. A lot of people are starting

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Speaker 1: to talk about JJ McCarthy all of a sudden. The

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Speaker 1: question on Sports and or Get Up this morning is

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Speaker 1: does JJ McCarthy go top five? Which to me seems insane, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Johnny, you just talked about sometimes the odds

603
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Speaker 1: are reflective. As we've been on this podcast. Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 1: is now I think minus three hundred to go number

605
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Speaker 1: two to Washington. So let's say it is Kayley Williams

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Speaker 1: and Jayden Daniels those are your one and two. Is

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Speaker 1: somebody trading up to get JJ McCarthy and is it

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Speaker 1: the vikings? And would you do it? Three questions in one.

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Speaker 3: Is somebody trading up? I think somebody trades up for

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. I don't think. I don't know necessarily if

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy is going to be the third one off

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Speaker 3: the board. I would be very, very surprised if that

613
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Speaker 3: was the case. There's a lot of other talent out there.

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Speaker 3: I think he's, like I said, probably the fifth best

615
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Speaker 3: quarterback in this class. All it takes is somebody for

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Speaker 3: you to fall in love with the way you are

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Speaker 3: in the building, the way you are in meetings, the

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Speaker 3: way you were in your workout. That's the thing that

619
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Speaker 3: we on this side of things don't get a chance

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Speaker 3: to see. We have no idea if JJ McCarthy went

621
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Speaker 3: into his workout with the Raiders and absolutely crushed it

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Speaker 3: so much that whoever is making that pick in Oakland

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Speaker 3: wants them or in Las Vegas wants them. So that's

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Speaker 3: what it comes down to here right now. That's the

625
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: thing that we don't know about. For all we know.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the way that this NFL system works,

627
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: they have for an idea. You know what's going to

628
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Speaker 3: happen in this first round of the draft, Like there's

629
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Speaker 3: some ebb and flow to it, and there's some craziness.

630
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Speaker 3: But for the most part, these gms and these coaches

631
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Speaker 3: know where they want to go, they know where their

632
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: needs are, they know where their fits are, and they

633
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: know who their guys are. They only get one. Some

634
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Speaker 3: teams get two picks in the first but most of

635
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Speaker 3: the time it's one, and it's a game changing pick

636
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Speaker 3: where GM's livelihoods are on the line or head coaches

637
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: livelihoods are on the line. Whoever makes these picks behind

638
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: the scenes, if you mess it up, you will not

639
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Speaker 3: be there anymore. And that's the way that this business is.

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Speaker 3: So there's a team that needs a quarterback and they

641
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: pick the wrong quarterback, heads will roll and that's the

642
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Speaker 3: nature of this game.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the college for a second.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw in the documentary sort of there

645
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Speaker 1: was access to money for you when you were in college.

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Speaker 1: Have you thought about how much money you would make

647
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Speaker 1: as Johnny Manziel Heisman Trophy winner as a freshman in

648
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Speaker 1: college right now with nil? Have you done that math?

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Speaker 3: Uh? No, I've never really done the math because I

650
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Speaker 3: don't think I need as much. Like the question like

651
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Speaker 3: how much would you to me at this point? Is

652
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: like I have enough, you know, I have enough doing

653
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: what I'm doing right now to be fulfilled and be happy.

654
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: And sometimes in life wanting more and needing more as

655
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: a mindset that's got me into a little bit of trouble.

656
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: I think at times, and right now, being content and

657
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: being happy and having everything that I could potentially or

658
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: possibly ever really need is fulfillment enough in itself for me.

659
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Speaker 4: There you go, Johnny, stop living in the past. My

660
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: man is in the present.

661
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Well it's not the wrong answer, it's a really good

662
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: answer answer, it's a really healthy answer. Yeah, I had

663
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I had a buddy the other day. I was complaining

664
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: about something stupid and he's like, you know what, you're

665
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: so fucking greedy, like like it couldn't be going better

666
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: for you and you're you're fucking whining about that extra

667
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: half percent, Like are you fucking kidding me? So I

668
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: appreciate the mindset. Meanwhile, I don't know Calen Williams making

669
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: four to five million bucks a year.

670
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: You know Williams deserve it. You know he got he

671
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: got in an arrow where you could go capitalize off

672
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: your name, image and likeness. And for him, that looks

673
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: like driving around the Hollywood Hills in a penthouse apartment

674
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: with his heisman trophany overlooking, you know, the beautiful West

675
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: Coast and driving around and probably a Porsche and whipping

676
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 3: it through the hills and doing whatever you please. So,

677
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, to each his own on the lifestyle part.

678
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: And I know right now I'm looking around in Arizona

679
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling pretty good about where I'm at and

680
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: feeling like I have enough. So hopefully we can keep

681
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: continuing to do some stuff on Action Network and we'll

682
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: be right the mix forever.

683
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Kill Williams, does he have a

684
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: song called draft Jay who at the very beginning of

685
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: the Drake song his name's dropped.

686
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: No, we still got the Drake friendship. We still got

687
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: good allies out there. Yeah, Draft Day, Johnny Manzil five

688
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: years later, how I'm out of mass steel Draft Day.

689
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: I think I got more relationships out of my rise

690
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: to fame than I did monetary values. But you know,

691
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: got paid in the end a little bit here and there,

692
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: but you know, the friendships are forever, for sure.

693
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: It's funny looking back too. Like you read these I deals,

694
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: I think a Texas quarterback. One of their deals is

695
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: they get a private jet, and it's like, damn, Johnny

696
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: had that before it was even a deal. My man

697
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: was already taking the PJA before you had.

698
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: Now I'm working on that with A and M. I

699
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: need A and M to go ahead and send me

700
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 3: a plane everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt from NFL Network had this great segment that

721
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: he did on Good Morning Football where early in the process,

722
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: or maybe it was sometime, you know, at the end

723
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: of last season, people were asking questions about Caleb Williams'

724
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: character and it turned out it was all bullshit, and

725
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, he's everything that everyone thought he was going

726
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: to be, at least from the reports right. And his

727
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: comment was, are you kidding me that you're a Heisman

728
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: Trophy winning quarterback in oh you know what it was.

729
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: It was people were criticizing him because he painted his

730
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: fingernails pink, and Kyle Brant was like, are you kidding me?

731
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: You're a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback in la in one

732
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: of the most cities in the world. You're one of

733
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the most recognizable athletes in the city. You are in

734
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: the nil era and the people the thing people are

735
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: going after you for.

736
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: It's a joke.

737
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: Is your pinion is a joke.

738
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: It's an absolute joke. The fact that fans and people

739
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 3: and pundits think that they can come into somebody's life

740
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: like that and dictate how they're going to live or

741
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: what they want them to be is asanate, like in

742
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: every sense of the word. Like, let the kid, who

743
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: is genuinely a twenty two to twenty three year old kid,

744
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: enjoy his life. He's the guy in the mix, going

745
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: to be the number one pick, going to be a

746
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: future you know, star in the NFL. Like if he

747
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: wants to paint his nails, let him paint his fricking nails.

748
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: If he wants to do or drive or where whatever

749
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: he wants to do, that's his right and his obligation

750
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: to be able to do that. So, you know, people

751
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: are just mad, People are just jealous, and people will

752
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: point out any single thing they can to try and

753
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: bring you down. And that's what's happening with Kayleb Williams

754
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: because if you look at him and you judge him

755
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: based on his football characteristics, his running is throwing, is jumping,

756
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: his vision, his football IQ, his film you know, id

757
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: everything that he's done that you see from my perspective,

758
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: it's a joke that they have nothing else to rip

759
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: on him about, so they come out of him for

760
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: his fingers nuts.

761
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: All right, I got two more questions for you, Simon.

762
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any other questions right now.

763
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I got two more. One as a Chicago Bears fan,

764
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you said in some of the franchise videos, how will

765
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: the How will the Chicago Bears not kill Caleb Williams

766
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: as a quarterback prospect? The way they have killed every

767
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: other quarterback prospect from Jim McMahon to Kate McNown to

768
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Rex Grossman to Mitch Trubisky. Every single prospect who comes

769
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: through that building fails. How do the Bears not?

770
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Mister Bisky is a double joint away from getting to

771
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: a really big stage for Chicago quarterbacks, as big as

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: it comes over time. And like I think right now,

773
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: where the Bears are, you have to have trust in

774
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: who you put in your head. Coach, who is running

775
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: the ship, who's riding the ship? Is it the owners?

776
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: Is it this? Whoever's running this ship in Chicago has

777
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: to get it right this time. And if they don't

778
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: once again, heads will roll and they'll start over and

779
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: this continuous like evolution of going nowhere and finishing in

780
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: the middle of the pack will continue. So hopefully their

781
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 3: leadership and who they have there will mold Caleb Williams

782
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: into the quarterback that he needs to be, and that

783
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: comes with making sure their discipline, staying on top of them,

784
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: making sure he's growing and progressing as a You know,

785
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 3: this is a thirty million dollar investment we're talking about here.

786
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: You know, this isn't a five million dollar free agent

787
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: guy you bring in on a flyer. This is five

788
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: years and thirty million, and you know, at least bare

789
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: minimum three years of your time with a lot of

790
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 3: capital and a lot of you know, trading Justin Fields

791
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: to get him out of there, like now, here's your

792
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: next guy, and it better be the guy because a

793
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: lot has rode on this decision. Justin Fields people were

794
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: still very on the fence about and I think they

795
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: still are about who he is as a quarterback. But

796
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people in Chicago. I bet if

797
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams doesn't work out, they're going to be screaming

798
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: and saying a lot of things about Justin Fields. And

799
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: what was up with that whole situation. So they made

800
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: their decision on that. Now they're going to make their

801
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: decision here, and it's about how they groom him and

802
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: how they allow him to be his best self. And

803
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: if they allow him to be his best self, they'll flourish,

804
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: and if they don't, they'll struggle. And you'll see it

805
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: through Caleb's body. With Caleb's body language to the first

806
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: three or four weeks of the season, you'll know how

807
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: things are going in Chicago, just based off how media

808
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: reports are.

809
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: All Right, brother, before we get out of here, assigmon,

810
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: did you want to ask something?

811
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: No, just gonna piggyback off what he's talking about. That

812
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: just the fact that I, honestly, I just can't see

813
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Williams being a miss like the Bears, not that they're

814
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: getting a lay up here, but like they're a bad franchise.

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: I think we all can agree in many ways. But

816
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: what they're great at is they're a great at staying consistent.

817
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: They're always consistent, right, no matter what. This team is

818
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: never usually the worst team in the league.

819
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: Right. It took a miracle for them to even have

820
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: the number one pick.

821
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago and he's literally stepping into

822
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: a team I believe had seven wins last year Williams.

823
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: So just picking back on he said, like, if we're

824
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: back here next year, all talking and he broke a

825
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Bears record slash curse a four thousand yards.

826
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Speaker 4: As much I want to be shocked by it, I.

827
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be, just because that's the expectations are that high

828
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: for Williams. And that's the amount of talent they have

829
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: right now. Where if they do get you know, all

830
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Joe alt here in the first round with the tenth pick,

831
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: now they have a good offensive line with a guy

832
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: they took last year in their first round, it's like

833
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: they have two stud receivers. It's all there for Williams here.

834
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: So Williams is about to be in the same situation

835
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is in Trevor Lawrence, he is going to

836
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: start hearing a ton of noise after this, after especially

837
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: going to this upcoming season. So just just the compsolet

838
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Teaham is there where. It's like Andrew Luck most guys

839
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: haded him great out of one hundred is a ninety nine.

840
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: Most people had Trevor Lawrence great as a ninety eight

841
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine. Caleb Williams is great at A ninety eight.

842
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: So I do agree with the giant saying your fit

843
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: is important.

844
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 4: It fit.

845
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: What he said earlier will not matter with Caleb. Caleb

846
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: can play on all thirty two teams and he should

847
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: at some point paying out. He's that gifted. So yeah, Chad,

848
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: my thing to you is just you've hit the jackpot, like.

849
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: I just can't go down the course.

850
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, stay the course exactly.

851
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: All right. So let me ask you, Simon. You and

852
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: I are going to dig deeper on this on Thursday.

853
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: So I want to ask Johnny this question. Yeah, give

854
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: me your first round quarterbacks taken and the teams that

855
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: will take them. Assume there's no more trades. Assume this

856
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: is the order. Who's going where? From just from a

857
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: quarterback perspective, in the first round.

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Speaker 3: I think you go Caleb Chicago, and you go Jaden

859
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: to Washington. That's the first That's the first two that

860
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: go right away. I would really think, based on what

861
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: we're hearing things like that, I think Drake May would

862
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: end up in Minnesota, and then I could see Panics

863
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: going to the Raiders. I could see him going to

864
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: New England. And you just kind of look at some

865
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: of these places. New England's at three, they do they

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Speaker 3: stay there. If they think he's going to be there,

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Speaker 3: they trade back, So you know, I could see him

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Speaker 3: going there. I don't know what the Giants are going

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Speaker 3: to do. That's a really big question mark of what's

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Speaker 3: going on right now. Do they believe and Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 3: Do they want to try and bring the competition in.

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Speaker 3: Are they willing to put the sixth pick of the

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Speaker 3: draft on it? If they do, they better be right

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Speaker 3: because I know there's fans in New York that are

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Speaker 3: tired of being mediocre as well. So I would go

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Speaker 3: Kelob Chicago, Jaden two, Washington, Pennix two. I like him

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Speaker 3: in New England. I love him in New England. And

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Speaker 3: then let's go JJ McCarthy and Denver, Drake May and Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: And I think looking at the tail end of the draft,

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Speaker 3: up to get a quarterback after picking you know, another

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Speaker 3: skill player, and I think that could round out you know,

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Speaker 3: your top five or six, and that's how six quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: two go quarterback it's going to be a quarterback heavy

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Speaker 3: You're going to see a lot of movement, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think some of these teams are content with where

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Speaker 3: their second round picks are to maybe go get that

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