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Speaker 1: Stride starts right now. But even if I'm out on

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Speaker 1: saying in that I want that guy to be my

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Speaker 1: personal hype coach and just follow me around and cheer

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Speaker 1: me on. Quarterback Shaquille Griffin praising the young quarterback Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: who had a heck of a day in the last

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Speaker 1: day of mandatory Mini camp. Welcome in Jaguars Drive time,

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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, John Hoosier and Bucky Brooks with us this week.

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Speaker 1: We are honored. Unfortunately, JP shatter because my personal hype coad.

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Speaker 1: So it's not the same thing. No, you could call

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, we are very lucky to have You've been

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Speaker 1: here today and yesterday watching mandatory Mini camp. Tell us

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Speaker 1: The first impressions really impressed with just overall physicality in

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Speaker 1: stamp on the team absolutely. Today was the last day

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Speaker 1: we get into big things. Big thing one is Trevor's timing.

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Speaker 1: Taking limited reps last week especially and yesterday as well.

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Speaker 1: would you? That's not the right question. Who could be

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Speaker 1: someone that people would be surprised makes this team? It

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Speaker 1: is a nine man roster right now. Surprised, So it's hard.

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Speaker 1: So what I had, I'm gonna switch up. Who would Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you look at this final fifty three man roster and

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Speaker 1: you're like, Cash, I don't even know I'm gonna and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, And I'm gonna say this without

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Speaker 1: even knowing if he's going to advance beyond the trial stages.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Lakwan tread Will alright making the team.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why Lakwan tread Will is interesting to

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Speaker 1: me is one we talked about this in the Draft.

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Speaker 1: Five Star Recruits, Big schools. LaQuan tred Will was a

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Speaker 1: five star recruit from Chicago Urban Mars certainly had to

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Speaker 1: entertain and know where you fit in the recruiting order.

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Speaker 1: He comes out and you see him. He looks like

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Speaker 1: a pro receiver, big body, in shape, fit, called the

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Speaker 1: ball really really well. And so after you get past

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Speaker 1: the first three receivers d J. Chark, Labisco Chinault, Marvin Jones,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of wide open for him to have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to make this team, and so I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: that fourth guy that can come in and play and

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Speaker 1: maybe play a role. I think laquantra Well may have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of slither in and kind of

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Speaker 1: get into the back door. Yet I'm always bad at

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Speaker 1: this answer because I'm never sure what constitutes a surprise. Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would be a little surprised if Tebow

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Speaker 1: makes it, and I don't. I kind of don't think

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Speaker 1: he will. So it's a bad answer. Um, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go I'll accept the l Bucky has won this, uh so,

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Speaker 1: But so I will answer by answering sort of a

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Speaker 1: different question. I will I would not be surprised Walker

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Speaker 1: Little is going to make the team. I would not

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Speaker 1: be surprised if he pushes for a starting driving training camp,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it wouldn't be in training camp per se

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Speaker 1: that it happens. But it feels like he might be

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Speaker 1: good enough at a position that looks locked meaning right

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Speaker 1: tackle joe On Taylor, left tackle Cam Robinson. At some

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Speaker 1: point during the season. It feels like he might push

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Speaker 1: and start over one of those guys. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: which yet, but there's just that vibe around the kid.

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Speaker 1: So sorry for not answering the question. But you don't

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Speaker 1: think that was surprised some people. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: just I just put out of my skin and report uncoachable,

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna do his own when I'm talking. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, I'm obviously getting cut at some point,

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Speaker 1: so I go with this. Uh, but yeah, I walk

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Speaker 1: a little. I think is continues to be a guy.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, bucket. I don't get your thoughts on him.

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Speaker 1: He continues to be a guy since the day he

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Speaker 1: got drafted. I I didn't know much about him, and

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Speaker 1: then as soon as I looked down and said, weif

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Speaker 1: it could be a good pay and nothing ever seems

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Speaker 1: to deviate from that thought. The more you learn about him,

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Speaker 1: the more you see him, the more you hear about him.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like this has a chance to be

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Speaker 1: an absolute home run pick. I'm here was talking to

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Speaker 1: you in the field today. He might wind up being

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Speaker 1: the second best pick in this drift for the Jags.

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Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't be surprised. And I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that you're doing when you watch him

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Speaker 1: on the field is you begin to check off boxes.

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Speaker 1: So you check off the box, you see him walk

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Speaker 1: out physically check Then you watch him go through individual

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Speaker 1: drills and you see the footwork, you see the technical skills,

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Speaker 1: you check it off. You think about the pedigree at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Stamford's had a ton of a linement that have come

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Speaker 1: into the league and had immediate impacts of starters. He

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Speaker 1: does that. And then when you watch him with the ones,

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Speaker 1: because you're looking at dam Robinson and Juwan Taylor and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to envision like how far behind is he?

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Speaker 1: And he doesn't look out of place, and so that's

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Speaker 1: when you begin to have those conversations, Hey man, is

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Speaker 1: this a guy that after we watch and play a

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Speaker 1: couple of preseason games, yes, put pads on first, do

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Speaker 1: you make the move? If this guy shows that he

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Speaker 1: has that ability. So it would be very very interesting

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Speaker 1: to watch where he fits in the packing order. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a good all of them to have because

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Speaker 1: even if he's not a starter, for him to be

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Speaker 1: the six guy, to be a player that can play

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Speaker 1: on both sides, that's that's a benefit because seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: injuries will eventually happen. Not saying that we want to

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Speaker 1: see that appen. I forget which one said it Uh Trent,

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Speaker 1: Balky or Urban. But the night of the draft, in

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Speaker 1: talking about Walker Little, one of them said, when you

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Speaker 1: watch him and with a little tape they had because

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Speaker 1: he didn't play last couple of years, when you watch

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Speaker 1: his tape, everything that he did looked easy. And with

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman that's not always the case all the times.

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Speaker 1: Even these big guys, they're big guys off and not

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Speaker 1: the most athletic. Sometimes even the effective guys look like

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Speaker 1: they're having to work really hard to do what they're doing. Basselli,

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Speaker 1: who you played with, was a guy I was used

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Speaker 1: to make the analogy he was put on this earth

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Speaker 1: to play that position. It was easy for him. I'm

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Speaker 1: not comparing and walk a little to bissally, But in

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Speaker 1: that trait I like hearing when a coach says about

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, everything looks easy for this guy. He's

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Speaker 1: looks natural. Not all of them look natural. No, in

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Speaker 1: the position that we talked about, like he's a natural

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Speaker 1: left tackle, because in the game, the left tackle should

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Speaker 1: be the more most athletic of the lineman because he

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Speaker 1: has to deal with those superheroes on the other side.

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Speaker 1: He has that and even though the game is changing

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Speaker 1: where now you have to have two good guys that

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Speaker 1: right and left, he looks like he can play and

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Speaker 1: he The thing is day one, when you close Euyes,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to envision him as a star. And that's

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Speaker 1: and that's a big thing when you bring a pick,

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Speaker 1: even though he hasn't played in a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: for him to look like that, even though when short

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Speaker 1: shorts and shirts, I think that Bow's will and what

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Speaker 1: you always want Mini camp I was always told as

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Speaker 1: a scout, Yeah, you can probably speak to this. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to be walking off the field, gun. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is like when you're blink scouting. First impression,

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Speaker 1: first impression for walk a little was very very impressive.

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Speaker 1: It was and infact the very worst. He pushes Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson and pushes Jowan Taylor and creates some competition. It's

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing either. Agreed. Agreed, All right, So

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks with us this week as we wrap up

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Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp. The guys are back on the field tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: just the rookies, and then it is officially summer break.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Yeah, this this offseason has

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Speaker 1: been weird. It it almost the times hasn't felt like

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Speaker 1: an off season. It's been a busy one. Yeah, me

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Speaker 1: and Bucky, you've talked every every Wednesday morning on Huddle Up.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't want to say it, but yes,

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00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: A lot going on around the league, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. Aaron Rodgers, DeShawn Watson both knots

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Speaker 1: at voluntary and mandatory mini camp. Buck. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. This Deshaun Watson. We

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Speaker 1: talked about it every single week. We play at all

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Speaker 1: these scenarios of of how this is gonna work. We

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Speaker 1: all agree we don't know if he's going to be

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Speaker 1: in a uniform this year. No, I mean that that's

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Speaker 1: one of the tougher situations because you have so many

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Speaker 1: different storylines going on. One, you don't know what the

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Speaker 1: league is going to do with the off the field

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Speaker 1: situations that he's dealing with, so he has to handle that.

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Speaker 1: And then with the Houston Texans, does you want to

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Speaker 1: go back to the in Texas? And better yet, do

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Speaker 1: they want him back? And so have When you have

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff kind of bruin, you just don't

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Speaker 1: know how to go to play out. But I will

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Speaker 1: say this take away the legal stuff. The shot Wison

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Speaker 1: doesn't have any leverage in this situation, like all the

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Speaker 1: leverages with the team, and the clock really starts when

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Speaker 1: you get the training camp because when he shows the

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Speaker 1: training camp, or if he doesn't show, that's when the

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Speaker 1: go after signing bonus and all of that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's when it becomes real. Right now, it's just kind

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Speaker 1: of been play play fodder. I'm not coming those things.

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Speaker 1: But when training camp is that's when we really see

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Speaker 1: what is going to happen in this situation. But do

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Speaker 1: they even want the leverage? That's what's amazing about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't think anybody really knows the

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Speaker 1: question you post the very beginning. Do they want him?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want him. They haven't really said does

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Speaker 1: he want He might be in a position where he

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Speaker 1: needs to go back to them, but he really can't

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Speaker 1: say it. So I would be surprised if he's playing

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Speaker 1: the Firs spent of the season. This feels like being

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Speaker 1: mid June, like a a resolution of all these threads

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Speaker 1: will be difficult by the time they play in Week one.

639
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Speaker 1: But in this league history and in my experience tells

640
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: me on on August twenty that story you could change

641
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. You can snap your fingers and

642
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: he's in camp the next day. Yeah, weird deal. It

643
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: is one of the It will be one more the

644
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: fascinating stories to watch because we have all of this stuff.

645
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: And then the legal thing just kind of threw a

646
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: wrenching all of it because it went from me and

647
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is unhappy with the team to then the

648
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: team is like, hey, can we take on the water

649
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Speaker 1: that will come along with him being the face of

650
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Speaker 1: the franchise. Um once again, they have the leverage and

651
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: so they can't just let them go for nothing. They

652
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: have to figure out what the conversation would be. But

653
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: it's hard for other teams to know what to give

654
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: up until they get the stuff from the league, and

655
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff won't be settled until after

656
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Speaker 1: the season. How do you give up picks equity few

657
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: not knowing what you're going to get, having no idea Rogers,

658
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Speaker 1: By the way, green Bay needs to say you're playing

659
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: for us, thank you very much, and get off my law.

660
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: And Bucky Oh, I mean like they don't have to

661
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: say that. He doesn't have any choice. He has to

662
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: play for them, right, That's like everyone is saying this,

663
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: and so everyone is like they should bend over backwards

664
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Speaker 1: for for Aaron Rodgers. But regardless, he has three years

665
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: left on this so much money left to play. You

666
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Speaker 1: can go host Jeffardy, but Jeoffardy is not gonna pay

667
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: enough to pay back all the money that will be owed.

668
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: This will be it. This would be a funny one

669
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Speaker 1: to play out, But I would expect him to be

670
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Speaker 1: in green Bay win camps. I would don't get John started. Please,

671
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: he has this thing. Let's get off my long thing

672
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: that players have to play off contract city hates the

673
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: trend quarterback we started. Who teams signed to major salary

674
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: cap shaping deals is a different situation than young players.

675
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: So if if you sign with the team to a

676
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: major cap shaping the other shaping the franchise, you have

677
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: to commit to that. That's my major point with it,

678
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Speaker 1: because if quarterbacks are gonna be so important to get

679
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: the his deals, then quarterbacks really need to keep those

680
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: deals because the franchise depends on him so much. No,

681
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: but that that that is true all of this. Whenever

682
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: you see these these uh dust ups or disagreements with

683
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and team, it's always about the money. Russell Wilson, Uh,

684
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: it's it's always about they want more cheese on the burgers.

685
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott and all those guys getting over forty

686
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: million per they want to be in the forty million

687
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: dollar club. I don't blame him. I can't say I

688
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: blame him. Speaking of quarterbacks, let's go to our second

689
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Speaker 1: headline all over New England yesterday was this headline. That

690
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: one headline, Cam Newton really struggled and to mac Jones shine,

691
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Speaker 1: So when are we going to see this shakeout? I

692
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: think the Patriots they spent a ton of money in

693
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Speaker 1: free agency, very unlike them. Kim Newton coming off a

694
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Speaker 1: rough year. Right now he's the starter for how long though?

695
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Speaker 1: Look I anticipated him being this daughter for the overwhelm

696
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: majority of the season. I think one thing we have

697
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: to realize mac Jones only started seventeen games in college

698
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Speaker 1: and we're asking him to come in and step into

699
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: a very complex offense, which you may know, but he

700
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: doesn't have the experience. And it'll be the preseason will

701
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: be one thing, but then when we started playing games

702
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: and the expectations that come along with the Patriots. Look,

703
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a faction fans that want to see

704
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: mac Jones god because they've seen this offense operate a

705
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: certain way with Tom Brady. I'm not saying that mac

706
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: Jones is in that time Brady class, but because we're

707
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: comfortable seeing that offering, that offense play a certain way,

708
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: doesn't be a lot of pressure on Camdon to play

709
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: at high level. I have one thought and then a

710
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: question for the scout. I think Belichick would love to

711
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Speaker 1: go show he could win with a rookie quarterback. I

712
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: think there. I think so. I think that would feed

713
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: his ego a little bit but or I also think

714
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: he has the confidence that he and his staff could

715
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Speaker 1: prepare to do that. You've watched Cam Newton more than

716
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I am. I see Cam new not on primetime on Mondays.

717
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: There were times last year that he looked like a

718
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: shell of what he had been in his prime? Is

719
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: that injury? Is that decline? Can he be the player

720
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: physically because he was just physically a wondrous of players

721
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: you've seen in a long time. Is that gone? Or

722
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: was last year in aberration or where would you put that?

723
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: It's a big question mark because you have to do

724
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the Cam evaluation and a couple of different things. The

725
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: first part of it, the first two games he looked great.

726
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Then he had the COVID situation. And one thing that

727
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: we don't know is how much did it COVID impact him?

728
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, when it came to like um his overall

729
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: ability physically and mentally, he fell behind in the offense

730
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: he admitted today, Where this offense I learned it on

731
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Speaker 1: my own, but by the end of the year like

732
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: it caught up to me because I didn't fully know

733
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: what I was thinking too much and those things I

734
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: will say the New England pages are like a snowflake.

735
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: They can change styles at any point. They like to

736
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: run the football. In December, him asked that even though

737
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: he played poorly as a thrower at twelve wrestling touchdowns

738
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and so a lot of it depends on when Bill

739
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Belichick looks at this team and he looks at the

740
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: best path for them to win and win at a

741
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: high level. How do they need to play? Because I

742
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: think that ultimately determine which quarterback he could he get

743
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: away with playing like back and forth going mac Jones

744
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, I don't know, I don't know.

745
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if if anybody would try it, he

746
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: would the platoon system at quarterback. I mean, I mean,

747
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: I guess he could. He could try that only to

748
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: add to the genius because the Cowboys won doing doing that,

749
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: that would be historical moment. Yeah, I mean, I think

750
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: ultimately they're gonna play the best quarterback. The one thing

751
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: that we know about the pages, they're unafraid of playing

752
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: anybody and everybody from andrafted rookie. If mac Jones wins

753
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: the job, and I think the odds is stactually gets

754
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: him early to win it. But if he wins the job,

755
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the guy that that runs

756
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: out there. We shall see. And finally, this is something

757
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: that he mentioned on the practice field, is a little strange.

758
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: Used to look at new numbers around the league. Yeah,

759
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: our guy Jalen Ramsey number five in l A wow. Yeah,

760
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: it's probably good for his back, so it's not as

761
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: big as number twenty. Right. Let's wait, ray Shawn Jenkins

762
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, number two. You got Rudy Ford at five, Bucky.

763
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Speaker 1: I know this is unconventional for you. No, No, I

764
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: love when you've you were two. Yeah, but I war

765
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Speaker 1: seven because only the only ballers can wear single diggers balls.

766
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Speaker 1: You gotta pick, you gotta pick that. Only ballers can

767
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: do that. And if I had my druthers, I know it.

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Speaker 1: That's not the league. I would wear zero. In the

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Speaker 1: pro we wear something something that you can't wear zero.

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Speaker 1: You can only go from one to nine in the NFL,

771
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Speaker 1: but in college you can wear zero. They should, uh.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought they should bring back zero, double zero

773
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Speaker 1: and have it be for wide receivers and centers. I

774
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Speaker 1: think it would be fantastic to see a center wearing

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Speaker 1: double zero again. Jim Otto of the Old Oakland Raiders

776
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Thank you, Era, and so did Kenny Burrow,

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver from nearby Jacksonville. I believe you went

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Speaker 1: to reins lovely. John always hits me with these tidbits

779
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Speaker 1: and I write them. You never know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: learn on the show. The historian over here, that's you,

781
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Speaker 1: the scout and the historian, the keeper of the game.

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Speaker 1: put you on the spot here. I walked by and

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Speaker 1: I saw defensive corner or Joe Collin on the ozone podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know what he said. He Uh,

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Speaker 1: to break down some individual roles on defense and trying

819
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Speaker 1: to figure out what this Jaguars defense will look like.

820
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Speaker 1: And basically, uh, he was, as most coaches are this

821
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Speaker 1: might have a Ravens element to no way, but their

824
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: own version of that scheme. Bucky to me, how this

825
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Speaker 1: defense looks and some of the wrinkles on offense. Are

826
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Speaker 1: the fascinating stories about training camp in a few weeks,

827
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: especially the defense. I'm I'm fascinated to now everybody's gonna

828
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: line up? Yeah, I think the two days and watching

829
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Speaker 1: the defense, you talk about the versatility and even urban

830
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Speaker 1: alluding to the hybrid nature three four four three, So

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Speaker 1: many guys that are the same height, same body type,

832
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Speaker 1: stand up, three point stance. What do you do killb

833
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Speaker 1: on chasing? When you do with Josh Allen, are those

834
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: guys rushing? Are they dropping? How many pressure packages are

835
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: we doing? Last year we watched the team rarely blitz.

836
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: Do they blitz more simulated pressure? It's really fun to

837
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: watch because they're throwing a lot at you and so

838
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: it's a lot. And then on the other side, the

839
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: offense motions personnel shifting like different, you're a bigger things. Yeah,

840
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: before we close out, tell me how impressed you were

841
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: with the amount of motion this offense is. Yeah. Today

842
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: in the very competitive part, like we just saw so

843
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: many motions and shifts, constant changing a personnel. It was

844
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: almost like watching a hockey game, hockey lines, guys going in,

845
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: guys going out. If Trevor Lawrence is able to handle

846
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: the volume of the playbook, they can create a lot

847
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: of problems for the defense with the different personnels that's

848
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: going in and out, and then the way they're deploying

849
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: their personnel. Travis Antient is one where we saw him

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Speaker 1: line up in the backfield. Did you go out wide?

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Speaker 1: How do you treat them? You teat them as a

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when Darryl Bebble said, yes,

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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver we can. That was a big headline.

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Speaker 1: Where are you gonna put him? He's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: hand doffs. All right, you're calling it there, all right.

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Speaker 1: That is our program, Jaguars Drive Time. Bucky Brooks, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. It's always always fine, my god. Finally,

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