1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Oh boy, it's nine eleven, but a day after it's 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: you will be listening to this on nine twelve, after 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: you have um finished whatever it is that you do 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: on nine eleven either either be sad or uh tell 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: jokes or nothing at all. Um, it's all fine. There's 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: no wrong thing to do when you're thinking about a 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: day where a really fucked up thing happened. But that's 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: actually untrue. There is one wrong thing to do, and 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the wrong thing today because 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: most people, I think, think back to the day after 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: nine eleven as oh, everybody was like out of their 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: minds with like grief and fear and saying some really 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: fucked up shit and generating a kind of fury that 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: acted as propulsion and justification for a lot of very 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: very bad things. Um. And it's not in general a 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: time that we should look back on with particular pride 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: or or certainly what's the word I'm looking for here, um, nostalgia? 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: Everyone that is except for Glenn Beck. Um. Now, James, 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: we've got James stout here. Chris, Hey, Chris, what do 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you what do y'all know about Glenn Beck? Because James, 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: you are this is controversial to say, but I think 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: we should rip a vand aid off British. Um and Chris, 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: you're very young, so I'm wondering how much do you 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: know about Mr. Beck? He was like the my memory 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: of him, he was kind of like the well, I 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: don't know or is not quite the right word, but 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: he was like he he was like like the guy 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: in sort of like right wing ship head like punditry 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: for a while. My memory of him he was like 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: he was like a slightly more put together Alex Jones, 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Like he had like the weird pinboards and ship and like, 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: is is this the right guy? Yeah, he's Alex Jones 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: with a budget in terms of end of the space 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: he fills. Um, James, did you know did you catch 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: much of him? No? So my engagement with Glenn Beck 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: is mostly through like teaching American history classes and trying 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: to explain like the explosion in lies and bullshit and 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: hate that immediately follows nine eleven. Yeah, and so they 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: know they've never really heard his stuff. Yeah, Glenn Beck, 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: he's he's doing radio, ship and stuff before nine eleven. 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: By the time he actually comes on the scene, it's 42 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: a few years after nine eleven and he gets a 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: show on Fox News. UM and Glenn Is. You know, 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: I watched him every night. My parents always watched him. 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: My dad considered him to be like a really good historian, Um, 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: which is bleak um a lot, but he was. He 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: was He was a unique sounding figure. So when Glenn 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Beck comes onto the stage, right, the biggest dude in 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: right wing media is still Rush Limbaugh. But rush Is 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: has kind of taken a back seat in the last 51 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, especially right after nine eleven. Two guys 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: like Um, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Riley, you know, and 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: those are kind they are kind of like they are 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: powerhouses and right wing media. And then you've got, well 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: those guys are on TV. You've got this cast of 56 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: people who are like bargain basement discount Rush Limbaughs on 57 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: the radio that are all kind of waiting in the 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: wings for their chance to be the next big TV hero. UM. 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: And those guys include people like Um, Um, like Glenn Beck, 60 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: and also folks like Michael Savage. Um, there's a couple 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: of a lot of maniacs that you probably have not 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: heard of that we don't need to dredge up. But 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck kind of sales out of the fever swamps 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: of the right wing media UM and gets a fucking 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: TV show on Fox News, and in very short order 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: he is the biggest fucking thing on the network. Fox 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: News is the most popular network in the country, and 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck is their number one host. In two thousand nine, 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: he's pulling in something like three million viewers a night. 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's he's he's very very influential. UM. And 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: this is the point in time and two thousand nine, 72 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: by the way, the other thing that's happened that's big 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: in right wing media circles is Barack Obama has been 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: elected president. Now, yeah, you've got birtherism happening, but in general, 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: I think one good way to think about it is 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: that nine eleven super charges the right, but in a 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: very like populist way in a because there's this expectation, 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: like we talked about in the last episode, this expectation 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: that people are coming back to God because there's been 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: a big disaster, We're going to war, and war always 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: benefits you know, the conservatives in the in the you know, 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: the party, like, we're gonna win this war, and that's 83 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: going to be huge for US. UM. And you also 84 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: have like just this this sense because Bush becomes the 85 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: most popular president anyone can remember having that the type 86 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: of history is with conservatism, you know, in the immediate 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: wake of nine eleven, and then that all goes to 88 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: ship because conservatives have terrible ideas for everything, um, and 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: they launched two disastrous wars, and by two thousand and nine, 90 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people who are gonna like 91 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: admit in public, no, I think we both those wars 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: were good ideas that were handled well. Right. Even the 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: people who were who were real bullish about that stuff 94 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: are like, well, you know, they didn't do this right 95 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: or that right, or it's impossible to win in that 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: part of the world. And you know, it was that's 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: the I heard different versions of that from from different 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: family members and stuff. But there's this this real sense 99 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: of aggrievement and in the wake of Bush, like it's 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of taken for granted because about how disastrous 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: his his presidency had been. That um, he was not 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's not going to be a Republican who 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: won that election. Um. But the fact that it is 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Barack Obama, a black guy, they lose their goddamn minds. 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: I think they've been ready for I think even they 106 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: would have been fine with Hillary Clinton. Obviously they would 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: have liked gone nuts on her like they did on Bill, 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: but like I think they would have, I don't think 109 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: that would have caused them to go crazy a way 110 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: that Obama did. Um. It is it is not wrong 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: to compare the impact to nine eleven in a lot 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: of ways, because it's this massive shock that shakes the 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: center of their world that they view as an attack, 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: as an assault on like white middle class Americans, and 115 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: the shock waves of that. I mean, we're still dealing 116 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: with them. But one of the things that's that's happening 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: here is that after nine eleven they had this sense 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: that history is with us, momentum is with us. And 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: after Obama gets elected, you see the conservative movement get 120 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: much more insular and much more conspiratorial and much more 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: focused on like grievance and anger and revenge um because 122 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: they know they're nothing's going to bring back the people, 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: so there's there's kind of nothing but but vengeance UM, 124 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: and Beck is the guy who's going to tap most 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: effectively into this feeling, this feeling of fear and this 126 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: need to feel like you're like you were right after 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: nine eleven, when it like everything was surging forward in 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the rights direction. And so in two thousand nine he 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: launches what he calls the We Surround Them campaign. Now, 130 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: the we in this I think is supposed to be 131 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: conservatives and them is the government. But I think you 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: can assume other you know, if you think about the 133 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: urban rural divide in this country, there's another meaning to 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Um. Now, this, this is a 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: series of segments and specials on beck show that grew 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: very popular. It's so popular, in fact, that a lot 137 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: of local right wing organizations start hosting viewing parties. And 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: this becomes like the earliest stirrings of the Tea party movement. Right, 139 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: all of these right wing radio stations and stuff, these 140 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: local talk radio stations and other organizations are holding viewing 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: parties for to watch Glenn Beck talk about you know, 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: his do his We Surround Them act. And I'm gonna 143 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: play a clip for you now from one of these 144 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: viewing parties. We're gonna play a couple of eclips. This 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: is from one filmed by a talk radio station in 146 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Georgia. UM and Uh, yeah, it's it's it's 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: something else, all right, So I want to, um, I 148 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: want to play this for you. I think it's a 149 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: fascinating artifact. And how the radio host chooses to introduce 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: the event is noteworthy, as is the man's appearance was 151 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: six hundred six freaks watching Glenn Beck on Fox News 152 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: for Project It's amazing. So well, what it's interesting to me, 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of worth going over a 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: couple of things there because that's that doesn't seem like 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot. But the fact that he he describes the 156 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: guy the people in there is sick freaks and and 157 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: and then like we're sick freaks, but like kind of 158 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: taking pride and that that's what he assumes liberals would 159 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: call them for watching Glenn Beck. You can see a 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: shade in this of a lot of liberals because they're dumb. 161 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: We're taken by surprise when like Hillary Clinton called Trump 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: supporters a basket of deplorables and they immediately adopted that 163 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: name for themselves. Again, you see the stirrings of it here, 164 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: right like, this is this is what the movement's turned into. Um, 165 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: you're taking pride in the fact that you're outnumbered and despised. 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Also the project, I'm intrigued. Oh yes, that's that is 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: that is coming. We're we're building to that. Um. So anyway, 168 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: we get some rock and guitar licks, just just some 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: some of the best preloaded writes, free guitar music I've 170 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: ever heard. And then we pan into this very full 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: conference room. There's like six people in this thing and 172 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: they are, as far as I can tell, all white. Um. 173 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: It is certain that the only people they talk to 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: when they do like because you know, the camera goes 175 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: around to get people's statements on the event, the only 176 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: people who are featured on camera are white, like a 177 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent of them. And I'm gonna play a clip 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: from that now boring. I'm glad you're doing this. I'd 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: like to get our constitutions back. I love you, you're 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: doing it. We're all behind your thanks. We are Jackie 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: and Bill Sesker. We're from Angle, Indianas and we would 182 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: like to thank you that you are helping us we 183 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: the ball to take back our America things. You're the 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: man glam. What you're doing is great for America here 185 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and encouragement that all of us were fed up with 186 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the federal government. Now they are like, it's impossible. I know, 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: I have not seen since I was James, James might die. Yeah, 188 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: there are a couple of extinct kinds of white guy 189 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: in that video. The very last of them died to 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: COVID when they cut a hole in the middle of 191 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: their mask and went to a Luby's. It's missed. Now 192 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing I want to acknowledge, something that is 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: impossible to deny, which is that the fact that we 194 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: are laughing at them in this way is part of 195 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: why they got so angry and put Trump in office right, 196 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: part of why liberal tears is a thing, part of 197 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: why there's so much focus on this desire of hurting 198 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: the enemy. Um. But also they just all look like 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: impossibly American, like like like these people I used to 200 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: see in Barcelona. From a hundred yards away, people would 201 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: be like, how do you know in American? And like 202 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: my friends would be like, first of all, you've come 203 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: dressed as a fucking tree yourself and this book. These 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: are some of the people who raised me, are are not? 205 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: You know? I grew up around these people. I grew 206 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: up with these people. I am I am of these people. Um, 207 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: I think I wear better shirts. But but but it 208 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: is like you you see in this these people who 209 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: feel like and that's kind of the thing they're communicating. 210 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Something has gone wrong with the country. And the thing 211 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: that's gone wrong is they are looking out and people 212 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: don't look like them, and in fact, people are looking 213 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: at them like they look weird, and people are making 214 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: fun of their ways and their customs, and this has 215 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: taken them, I surprise, and they're extremely angry about it, 216 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: and seeing a black man as president, which is the 217 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: least anyone could look like them, right, Barack Obama many 218 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: flaws two thousand nine. There was not many cooler looking 219 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: dudes than Barack who Obama like And that you have 220 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: to understand, like the bar is so low here that 221 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: like a reasonably well dressed person is like dropping a 222 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: nuclear weapon on like six cavemen. It is yeah, yeah, OK. 223 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: So the show ends with Beck because they're watching Glenn 224 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: Beck on a fucking projector, and it ends with him 225 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: near tears. He would cry on his show constantly telling 226 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: everybody there that they were all going to meet back 227 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: together in six months to find some ways in which 228 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: they've managed to to to add some nine twelve energy 229 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: to their lives, and we'll get to this more. But 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: the thing he's saying is that the day after nine eleven, 231 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: we were the best version of ourselves as a country. 232 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: Everyone was so godly and so loving and so united. 233 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that we need to get to 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: deal with the horror of Barack Obama being the president. Um, 235 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: and obviously the other thing happening. I shouldn't. I don't 236 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: want to be unfair here. It's not just that they're 237 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: scared about Barack Obama. This is two thousand nine. The 238 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: economy has just completely shadow fucking brick. The housing market 239 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: is through the goddamn floor. Some actually scary things are 240 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: happening to It's just that they're kind of grafting all 241 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: of them onto the specter that is Obama, you know. 242 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Um anyway, Uh yeah, So after this we pan out 243 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: to widespread applause in this very full room, and then 244 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: we cut two interviews. This time. I know everyone's going 245 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: to be really excited. Here there's a baby. It's pretty cute. 246 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty it's a pretty cute baby. The young fans 247 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: at that child has my reaction to this, it's so funny. 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: It's so funny. Look at this. Let's get this baby's statement. 249 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Just shine it blinded with a light until it weeps. 250 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: That's that's the good stuff. Okay, So this this video 251 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: has paused on a freeze frame of a guy in 252 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: a suit that when they talked to this guy they 253 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: call him the best dress I'll just play it. I will, 254 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I will just play I wasn't planning to play this, 255 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: but I will play it. Stry the best dress up 256 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: guy here? Did we have a good time tonight? Think 257 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: of the presidentation? I thought it was nice and it's 258 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: nice to get together with great turnout. I know that 259 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: so many people still care. You know that guy? Okay 260 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: that that that exact kind of person was like the 261 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: political class of like the town I grew up in. 262 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: Like these are the people who were like like this 263 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: is the guy? Yeah yeah, like the thing the things 264 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: they get up to were like like there was a 265 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: guy who was taking money from the sheriff's department to 266 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: try to abolish the police so that he could install 267 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department as the only law enforcement like division 268 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: in this town while he tried to sell like oh god, 269 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: that that is a kind of person night Like he has. 270 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: He has some wrong strong Republican city comptroller energy for 271 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: like a town for like a town of thirteen thousand people. Yeah, 272 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: he's dressed much like Ricky Gervais dressed in the original office. Yeah. Dump. 273 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: He is literally the guy Ricky Gervais is making fun of. Yes, yeah, 274 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: he is so beck pared his message of government accountability 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: as he framed it with, and this is what we're 276 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: talking about, the nine twelve project, which what follows. We 277 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: surround them with nine principles and twelve values, which, if followed, 278 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: would help bring your heart back to the mythical nine twelve. 279 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: This moment in which America was was beautiful. This this 280 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: we've gone from the fifties, like there's this, there's this 281 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty year Golden Era to like we have one 282 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: great day and if we could just get back to that, 283 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: everything will be fine. Um. So here's here's the nine 284 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: value or nine principles. Sorry, it's nine principles and twelve values. 285 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: I want you to hold me accountable if I fucked 286 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: this up in the future. The nine principles are number one, 287 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: America is good. Number two. I believe in God and 288 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: he is the center of my life. Number three, I 289 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: must always try to be a more honest person than 290 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: I was yesterday. Number four. The family is sacred. My 291 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government. 292 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: And I say this a lot, but in the Roman Empire, 293 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: the father of the family used to be able to 294 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: execute his wife and children. And you're a fool if 295 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: you think that's not what these people want things to 296 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: be like. Um. Well, and their slaves too. That's also 297 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: in a variable, and the slaves are a critical aspect 298 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: of this. Yes. Uh. Number five. If you break the law, 299 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no one 300 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: is above it. This is, by the way, confusingly a 301 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: reference to all the people who lost their home in 302 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the housing crash. Um. That's what he's talking about. That 303 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't. You know, you can't like bail 304 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: people out um. Number six. I have a right to life, 305 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: liberty in the pursuit of happiness, but there is no 306 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: guarantee of equal results. Number seven. I work hard for 307 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: what I have and I will share it with who 308 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable. 309 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: Number eight. It is not un American for me to 310 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion. And 311 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: number nine, the government works for me. I do not 312 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: answer to them. They answer to me. Now that's fun. 313 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: There's there's some interesting things they're including the government can't 314 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: force me to be charitable, you know I will, which 315 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: like the side of that, that is something that actually 316 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: happened on nine twelve is a bunch of people showed 317 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: up and volunteered to, like at great personal cost because 318 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: many of them got sick and died, to help pull 319 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: bodies out of the rubble and try to save people. Right, 320 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: and that the government literally did not need to tell 321 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: people to do that because a bunch of cops actually 322 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: refused to go do anything at all, ground and and 323 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the like the government the government knew about like like 324 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: that the when when the government did do something, it 325 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: was they they put a bunch of firefighters like inside 326 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: of the range it was the dusk was toxic and 327 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: then just fucking got them killed, which and then spent 328 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: the next we had to have John fucking Stewart fight 329 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: for them to get some kind of recompense from the 330 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: federal government, which credit where it's due is a legitimately 331 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: cool thing that he helped do. But like why did 332 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: it fall upon the Daily Show guy to do it? 333 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Share that the guy who's doing trensch phobic bits at 334 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah, yeah, Like it's kind of didn't 335 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz vote against healthcare benefits for these people? Yeah? Absolutely, 336 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Which again it's very funny that like the government can't 337 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: force me to to to be charitable. It's like, well, 338 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: what that actually ends with is people actually volunteering and 339 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: risking their lives and then the government, the conservatives in 340 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: the government callously voting to let them die in agony 341 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: because like, well, why should I have to Oh, you 342 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: do was rescue people during our country's darkst hour? Why 343 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: should I have to pay? Like it's this it's amazing shit. Um, 344 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: now that I'm sure you're curious about those twelve values, 345 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: they're really boring. Like it's boy, it's like boy scout ship. 346 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: It's like honesty, reverence, thrift, courage, Like it's not worth 347 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: focusing on the thing this entire time. Think I've been 348 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: thinking about this is the exact naming scheme that like, 349 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: like if you just walked up to someone on the 350 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: street and like asked, what what what are what are 351 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: the nine principles and twelve values like this. This sounds 352 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: exactly like like that. This sounds exactly like what like 353 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: a like a a a mid level like a mid 354 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: level Chinese bureaucrat would name their campaign to like make 355 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: sure the water restoration is done properly, Like it is 356 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the exact naming scheme of like like campaign style stuff 357 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: and like fucking like post post vours China. Yeah, I 358 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: mean well, and yeah, there's a lot to say about 359 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: that and about Glenn Beck, but um, you know, so 360 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: I got that list of twelve principles from Glenn Beck 361 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: dot com. What I find interesting is that the principles 362 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: as are up on his website right now, because this 363 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: is a thing he still gets into every now and again, 364 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: are somewhat different from the ones that he debuted on 365 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: the episode of his show in which he introduced the 366 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: nine twelve project. And I found the way he worded 367 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: point eight point eight is it's not un American for 368 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: me to disagree with authority or to share my personal opinion. 369 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: I found the way he actually worded that in the 370 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: show very interesting, And I want to play that for 371 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: you now because it's it's quite a bit different. Do 372 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: you agree with this? It's not Unamerican for anyone to 373 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: disagree with my opinion. But my opinion or others opinions 374 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe anti American. Anti American rhetoric would be anything that's 375 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: destructive to the Constitution and our country as the founders 376 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: understood it, unless you want to change that. There it is. Yeah, 377 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: there we go, There we go. That's the real good grievance. Yeah, 378 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: I respect You're right to say anything in less you're 379 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: disrespecting the founders, of course, which which case, Yeah, like 380 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: swat teams will commence immediately, etcetera, etcetera. We were we 381 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: are reading the wrench mobs. Now, after introducing those principles, 382 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: he asks his audience to mail him personal photographs so 383 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: he can put them together into a big we surround 384 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: them graphic, which you can find if you really want 385 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: to um, it's yeah, it's if you want to get 386 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: an idea of like the people who are listening to 387 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck, that will give it to you. Now here's 388 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: what happens. Immediately after he gives the email address for 389 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: people to send this to calm all right, the climate 390 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: change people are pulling a page from nazis, what are 391 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: your kids learning at school? Perfect moment in American television. Yeah, it's, 392 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: it's it's really incredible, right, it's. It's also it's also 393 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: things like you couldn't do this anymore, not because you 394 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: not not not actually because you can't say that about 395 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: climate change, but because if you tried to say that 396 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: about the Hitler youth people will get mad at you. 397 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, yeah, you'll you'll get in trouble. Oh yeah, yeah, 398 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: the hate the youth defenders will be a day with 399 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: very very pro environment. I can hear Tucker Carlsson saying that, Yeah, 400 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: it's it's. I just want to share with everyone that 401 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: manned by number five by Bob the Builder hit the 402 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: UK number one spot on September twelve, two thousand and one. 403 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: You know what, you know what James never forget And 404 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the Queen was still alive, then she must have loved 405 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Mambo number five. I bet there was a little bit 406 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: of Monica by her side, a little bit above the 407 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Builder in the Queen. A little bit of Rita's all 408 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: she needed, um get It died very sad. So the 409 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: nine twelve project, as it kind of grew out of 410 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: the wee s around Them campaign, if you kind of 411 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know I found it written online. I can't 412 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: exactly confirm this, but it seems like it kind of 413 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: started um when Beck took a call on his talk 414 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: radio show and this is a little bitter a couple 415 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: of years earlier from a guy named Ed in New Haven, 416 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: Connecticut who expressed feeling out numbered as a conservative on 417 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: the American political stage. Right. And that's that's really like 418 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: what the all of this kind of grew out of. 419 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: It's this response to the feeling like out numbered. Um. 420 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's an important thing to understand if 421 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to get to like the thing that the 422 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: thing that they want to go back to when they 423 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: talk about wanting to go back to nine isn't anything 424 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: to do with the actual terrorist attack. It's the fact 425 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: that everyone was so frightened that they unthinking lye uh, 426 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: that they unthinking lee submitted to the right wing that 427 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: was in power at the time, right like like that 428 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: it was that's what nine twelve is to them, Yeah, 429 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: like it it was. It was the last time conservatives 430 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: were able to like effectively cancel like mask cold like 431 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: they like the only time cancel sulture has ever been 432 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: real was like the Dixie Chicks and they could just 433 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: do that, like if if you, if you didn't start 434 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: all of your concerts, like if it's like Myri Miley 435 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Cyrus didn't go on stage and like say something about 436 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: the troops at the beginning of a concert, like they 437 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: would just destroy you and you would never be heard 438 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: from again. Yeah, it was. It was literally like legitimately 439 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: scary to not be unthinkingly pro America and like wildly so. 440 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: And and that's what they want to get back to, right, 441 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: is that the fear of actually questioning conservative hegemony. Um So, 442 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: I want to play a clip from the episode in 443 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: which Glenn Beck first introduces his nine twelve project to 444 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: his audience of millions on March fifteen, two thousand nine. 445 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: Here's how here's how this introduction goes America. They're waiting. 446 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: I'm backstage right now at thoughts. I'm getting ready to 447 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: show you that you are not alone this uh, this 448 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: is your country. You're still in control. But it seems 449 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: today like nobody gets it. Now that is a fascinating, 450 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: lee blatant statement of white conservative supremacy. Right you, you're 451 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: in charge, but nobody gets it. They don't understand that 452 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be running things right. Um, it's it's 453 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: incredible how blatant it is. But it also like you 454 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: do have to understand he's speaking to this real frustration. 455 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: This is like where we get Trump is these millions 456 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: of people are like, why don't they understand that we're 457 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be in charge? Um, there's there's an incredibly 458 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to get to this, 459 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: like later there's the next video on the fucking YouTube 460 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: thing is from Vices. Glenn Beck is a conservative and exile. 461 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: After Trump sat a little bit about that at the end, 462 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I'll do a whole Glenn Beck episode behind the Bastards. 463 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: But I really I want to keep digging into this, 464 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm gonna press play again here. You know, 465 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: you've lived your while life in a responsible way. You 466 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't take out a loan that didn't require any kind 467 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: of per proof of income, yet now you're being forced 468 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: to bail those people out. You've been concerned about this 469 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: country through the last administration and this administration. If you're 470 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: like most people both administrations, it's not about politics. You 471 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: actually believe in something and you thought for a while 472 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: they're your politicians did as well, and now you kind 473 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: of realize, well, maybe maybe they don't. When you come 474 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: home after a hard day at work, all you want 475 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: to do is put your feet up. All you want 476 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: to do is just relax and just watch a little 477 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: television catch up with what's happening in the world. But 478 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: every time you turn that television on, it just seems 479 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: like the whole world is spinning out of control. The war, 480 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Islamic extremism, Europe on the bring, even pirates now closer 481 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: to home. Mexico isn't safe for vacations or kids anymore. 482 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Six thousand were killed or beheaded on our border just 483 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: last year, and Phoenix now has the second highest rate 484 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: of kidnapping in the world. So there's a lot going 485 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: on there. But I think the thing that is most 486 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: fascinating to me is that, like the way he just 487 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: blatantly is like cartel violence. It's a problem because it's 488 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: not safe for our kids to vacation in me to 489 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: go anymore. Mexico only exists for spring break. That all 490 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: problems are at their root about Americans, right, Like, that's 491 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: that's what's going on here. Well, the thing that's interesting 492 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: to me is like that he throws into like Europe 493 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: under siege thing, which was like like one of like 494 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: the big like fascist things in like that period, like 495 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: word for word Europe under siege, like fortress Europe ship. Yeah, 496 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: this is when Andy andy No started his like no 497 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: ghost zone, Yeah exactly things. So right around here, maybe 498 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: a little bit late. Members of my family who are 499 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: extremely Caucasian living in some of those dog zones, like 500 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I lived in Europe in this period. It's it's just 501 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Yeah, and it's it's incoherent, like if you 502 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: look at the specifics of everything. Because he's yelling about 503 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: the financial crash because he has to be angry with 504 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: it because half of his market is terrified and losing 505 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: money or has have lost jobs and stuff as a 506 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: result of the crash. Um, but you can't. You can't 507 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: portray it as a problem of corporations rapaciously destroying and 508 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: hollowing out the middle class. So instead the problem is 509 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: that like foreign there's a line in there about how 510 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: like foreign corporations are just treating Americans like a market, 511 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: which is like, well, how do Americans treat everything like 512 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: of course they treat them like it's capitalism. Um, it's 513 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: not very coherent. But like, what is coherent is this 514 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: sense of grievance, right that we have been we as 515 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Americans have been specifically wronged. Um, we're not and and 516 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: we as When he says Americans, obviously he's only referring 517 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: to a specific kind of American. Um. But yeah, I'm 518 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna press play again here the forgotten man? 519 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Is you the voice that no one seems to hear, 520 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: just quietly saying, enforce the law, take responsibility for yourself. 521 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: You can't have it all. And anybody who promised you 522 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: that was a liar. Cren economic downturn, worst economic crisis, 523 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: worst month of job loss. Like something is happening in America. 524 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: Paradigm is about to change. Your friends and neighbors, Republicans, Democrats, Independence, 525 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: They're all beginning to wake up and wonder how did 526 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: this happen to us? M hmmm. So yeah, the words 527 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: September two thousand and one just hit the screen as 528 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: soon as he finishes that. But I mean, what you're 529 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: seeing in that is like the stirrings of what becomes 530 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: Trump is Um, you know, it's it's very m hmm. 531 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: And there's just like photos of white people up on 532 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: the left and right. Yeah, one of the most hideous, 533 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: like two columns I've ever seen in a video. It's 534 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: one and a half of each kid. Yeah, yeah, it's 535 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: not done well. Their graphic design was science had just 536 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: simply had simply not advanced to that level yet, like 537 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: A need people to understand this. There are supposed to 538 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: be three lines of pictures going across the screen. The 539 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: middle cut Yeah, the middle line is cut in half. 540 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: There was half of one person's face on each side 541 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: of the screen. Yea. And what they're what's being done here? 542 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: What Beca is doing here is he's trying to take 543 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: the anger and like that. People still felt about nine 544 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: eleven and turn it kind of towards in a different direction, right, 545 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: because what it actually happened on nine eleven was that 546 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: a group of terrorists had attacked the literal center of 547 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: American capitalism UM and of the American military industrial complex. Right. 548 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: Those targets were picked specifically because of what they were UM. 549 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: The Twin Towers contained one tenth of all office space 550 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: in Manhattan. Their largest tenant was Morgan Stanley, which lost 551 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: over eight of its market value in the two thousand 552 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: eight crash. Worst yet in beck size, the victims of 553 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: the attacks are all New Yorkers. Now, I don't know, 554 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: if you're not in the conservative media bubble, you may 555 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: not get it, but like New Yorkers. That was like 556 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: a slur, like literally like a slur to call somebody 557 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: a New Yorker, right exactly. So Beck can't focus on 558 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: the actual victims of nine eleven because they are people 559 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: that it is in his best interest to train his 560 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: audience to to despise. So instead he focuses on how 561 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: nine eleven was basically an act of disrespect against the 562 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 1: this forgotten man, right, who's now kind of surging up 563 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: like that's what he's doing here, right, That's what you 564 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: have to do if you're Glenn Beck, because again, you 565 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: can't actually focus on the real victims of this, which 566 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: is why it's not incoherent ideologically for conservatives to talk 567 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: the way they do about nine twelve and then vote 568 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: not to help people who were first responders and had 569 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: their fucking lungs filled with poison. Um, Yeah, it's good stuff. 570 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: So obviously, because Beck has to thread this needle, he 571 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: focuses instead on how the attack hit American prestige and confidence. 572 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: I remember how picture perfect the day was. I wasn't 573 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: a cloud in the sky, and America seemed invincible, and 574 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: yet in the blink of an eye, that airplane appeared 575 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: to hit a little bit down the bill holding around 576 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: the fifty floor. Again, it's struck flush. The skies were 577 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: filled with black clouds, and our hearts were full of 578 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: terror and fear. Disaster. We realized for the first time 579 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: how fragile we really were. Then something happened. So now 580 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: it's September twelve, and the first image we see after 581 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: disaster and destruction is a group of firefighters holding a 582 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: gigantic American flag with roughly the footprint of a school bus. Right, 583 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: and this is this is good, right, this is and 584 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: also it's a it's interesting that this is what he 585 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: chooses as like the image of America, like rebounding from 586 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: this great defeat, as opposed to like, I don't know, 587 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: firefighters pulling people out of the rubble and say having 588 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: their lives, like, no, they got a big flag and say, 589 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be okay. It makes sense though, right, 590 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: like like the actual lives are unimportant. The thing that's 591 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: important to save is the image of America. The flag. Yeah, 592 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: on the region. So yeah, well look yeah about us. 593 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue here. And we promised ourselves that we 594 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: would never forget on September twelfth, and for a short 595 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: time after that, we really promised ourselves that we would 596 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: focus on the things that were important, our family, our friends, 597 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the eternal principles that allowed America to become the world's 598 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: beacon of freedom. I can are you out the arrest 599 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: of the war and that people are not the hawn. 600 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Well here all of us now. I want to point 601 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: out here the choice of that clip. It's both because 602 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: that was a very famous speech that Bush gave that 603 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: really made his presidency in or at least the early 604 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: part of it. In a lot of ways, you could 605 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: argue that a significant amount of the the kind of 606 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: the political capital that he expended invading Iraq came from 607 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: this particular speech and generally how he handled the days 608 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: after the attacks. But it's interesting that they picked this 609 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: because it really is it's very much in line with 610 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: this this feeling and talking about the forgotten man, talking 611 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: about they're not listening to us, they don't know that 612 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: we're in trouble. What Bush is saying here is literal 613 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: words are, um, I hear you, and the people who 614 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: knocked these towers down are going to hear you. Right you, 615 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: Your your anger will have a reaction in the world. Right, 616 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: it will be met with fire and fury. Right, Like 617 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: that is that is the promise being made. And it's 618 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: this this undercurrent and everything Beck's doing here of the 619 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: thing that he is working with the clay that he 620 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: is molding is the fact that these people don't feel 621 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: listened to and like and that they deserve to be 622 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: listened to, and that the when they're angry at something, 623 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: it should be hurt. Right, Like that's that's the under 624 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: curtis talking about family and togetherness, but like that's what 625 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: he's actually promising people. I'm really interested in this, Like, 626 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: like I don't this is probably like nine twelve or 627 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: wheneveryone he's getting this speech. I think I always come back. 628 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: It's weird given where conserpatism has gone, right, and like 629 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: he's taken this in very much a clash of civilizations direction. 630 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: But like Bush was giving like Islam is the fabric 631 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: of America speeches that week he was speaking in mosques 632 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: and two Muslims and being like that, like this is 633 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: not a clash of civilizations. Obviously, fucking he even went 634 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: and fucking killed millions of Muslims, right, most of them 635 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: innocent Sybilians who had nothing to do with nearly all 636 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: of them. Right. But yeah, it's just interesting that like 637 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: his Bush who was giving this like, this isn't a 638 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: clash of civilization thing, and to become a clash of 639 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: civilizations thing like eight years later. Yeah, yeah, and it's become, 640 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: but in a very different way, right, because one of 641 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: the things that I think is happening here is the 642 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: problems that Americans, regular Americans are facing in two thousand 643 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: nine are this massive economic strife caused by predatory lending, 644 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: outright fraudulent business practices by major banks, the fact that 645 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: the legal system had been changed in order to allow 646 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: this massive con to go on, um, and then it 647 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: had been followed by this massive chrony capitalist bailout that 648 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: ignored regular working people. Glynn doesn't want his viewers to 649 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: focus on all of that, right, because those are his backers, right. 650 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: But what so, instead, what he's doing is he's taking 651 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: they feel disrespected and vulnerable because they have been Right now, 652 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: there's unreasonable aspects to that, but they have been disrespected 653 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: by the people who are stealing like all of the 654 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: money in the country and sucking them over too, and 655 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: leaving their homes hollowed out pil adicted waste lands. Um. 656 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: But you can't focus on that. The cure is the 657 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: that Beck offers them is not materially improving anyone's conditions. 658 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: It's not altering the systems that people cannot prey upon 659 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: others that way. It's by striking someone else. It's by 660 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: striking back at that sense of agrievement. Right, it's by 661 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: this is what's going to turn into owning the Libs, right, 662 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: just hurting the left. Conservatism now is purely about harming 663 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: groups of people they view as opposed to them. Um. 664 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: That's part of why trans people are so focused on 665 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: by the right right now, is that it's the symbol 666 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: of liberalism to them and they want to hurt that symbol. Right. 667 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: This is this is the answer Beck is offering, and 668 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be adopted by the thought leaders of conservatism. 669 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: We don't need to focus on doing anything. Nothing can 670 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: be done right, Nothing can be done. The grift is 671 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: running out, collapses coming. All that we can do is 672 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: redirect the anger they feel it being fucked by us 673 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: towards hurting other people. That's that's the magic that Beck 674 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: is pulling off here. It's pretty cool. It's interesting too, 675 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: pretty well, Like it's interesting to compare this, I think, 676 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: to like both Reagan and um like Reagan and Nixon, 677 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: because this is very very similar to Nixon talking about 678 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: like the silent majority and the stuff re doing. But 679 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: it's like those people have an actual political project, like 680 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: like Reagan, Reagan is to trying to completely annihilate the 681 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: welfare state and like, you know, dude, like they have 682 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: stuff they're trying to do, but like post Bush was 683 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: like but but Bush was the time they tried to 684 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: like do stuff. And it's like like Bush is so 685 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: hated by this point that like like even Glenn Beck 686 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this is being like, well, we 687 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: had concerns about the last administration too, and I was like, well, yeah, 688 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: because he's like just by by every conceivable metric, just 689 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: completely like annihilated the United States. But yeah, it's like 690 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: it's it's this interesting thing that like, yeah, it's like 691 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: this is the first time they've talked like this, but 692 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: the level of nihilism is just like so much like 693 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: the politics has been emptied of content to like such 694 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: a greater extent. And I think I think part of 695 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: it to also what's happening here is that like there's 696 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: like the like the the only thing left like for 697 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: sort of like the capitalist who are backing back, like 698 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: the only thing left for them that they could possibly 699 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: win is getting rid of Social Security and they kind 700 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: of like Obama gave him the chance to do it, 701 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: and they kind of like blew it. But like they 702 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: don't like this is like the agies they they actually have, 703 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: like they're there's like there's there's tax racilis, like there's 704 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: not actually anything for them really to do, but they 705 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: still have to sort of like maintain this constant vigilance 706 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: against anyone even remotely trying to make the world better 707 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: by taking away some of their power. And I think 708 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: that's like another angle of why all of this is 709 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: just sort of like this like incredibly empty nihilism, because 710 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: that's like that that's the only politics you can have 711 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: to defending group people who have won. Yep. Yeah, well 712 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: that's a good note to end on. Um. I hope 713 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: you have all enjoyed getting to meet Glenn Beck in 714 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: the nine and twelve project. I know I have enjoyed it. 715 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: Uh goodbye. It Could Happen Here as a production of 716 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: cool Zone Media. 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