1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: We are Rolling Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was a pretty 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: phenomenal home run derby last night. For those of you 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: that may have been paying attention, there were not a 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: lot of sports related activities on the program. Tonight is 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Buck And in order to get 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: into our Atlanta affiliate studio, which is right by the 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves Stadium, they have a huge red carpet for 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: all of the players to walk and I think I 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: was able to sneak in because otherwise I don't know 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: how you get into this building. So I had to 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: already begin my day engaging in covert activities to even 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: manage to make it into the studio today. But it 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as the All 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Star Game gets closer, appreciate our affiliate down here hosting 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: me in the Atlanta studios. You are in Miami, and 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: one of the big questions that has I would say 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: consumed much of the first six months of the Trump 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: two point zero regime is what's going to happen with inflation? 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: And Trump barely got any attention at all. June we 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: had a surplus, that is, we brought in the federal 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: government did more money than we spent, which had not 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: happened in years to a large extent, that was occurring 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well, 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning, 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: and yet again, despite the attempts of the media to 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: Secretary Scott bessent On, and I think this is an 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all long so 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: far about the tariffs and the fact that they would 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: not have a major inflationary impact so far that largely 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: appears to be true. Here is Scott Bessont cut one. 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number. 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: I think it's the trend. And I think one thing 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general 38 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to 39 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: call a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened. 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Buck, So so far, we are balancing the budget 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: in June, which may be a little bit of a 42 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs, 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: and so far the overall cost of goods has not 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: was right? We're also I think it's worth mentioning near 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: record all time highs in stock prices as we sit 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: here in mid July. We hope that you guys listen 49 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: to us and stayed pat The S and P five 50 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: hundred is near an all time record high, just a 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: little bit back off of it that was set recently. 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Was Trump right? 53 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: Is it time to actually have that conversation about whether 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this? 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: said he would be, and they spoke with certainty on 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: these things, the certainty of the consensus, the certainty of 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: economists in quote right, All economists know, Clay that tariffs 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs 60 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: economists what they really know, because that hasn't happened, and 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: to be clear, they said it would happen. It should 63 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: have happened if they were right right away, and that 64 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: is not what has occurred here. So once again we 65 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just 66 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: like on trade with China, decided that he was going 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: to do something that was against not only the anti 68 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: Trump Democrat everything Trump does as bad so called consensus, 69 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: but even some in his own party, even some who 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: are truly Trump voters and supporters, were concerned about the 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the 72 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: negative has not been really apparent at all, and the 73 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: positive is also on the positive side of a ledger 74 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 4: bigger than was initially anticipated, with one hundred billion dollars 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: of revenue coming in on the tariffs. You've also got 76 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: right inflation two point seven percent in June, which is 77 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: in line with expectations. So staying right steady, And I 78 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: know that they're now looking for formerly Scott Bessen says 79 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: the Treasurer secretary. They're looking for a FED chair to 80 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: replace the current FED chair, which I think is long overdue. 81 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: Well, look, if you told me, hey, what is the 82 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: most bollocked, there's a fun word, the most flummexed. 83 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: Part. 84 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: There's another fun word of our economy right now, I 85 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: would say, and I bet most of you would sign 86 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: off on this, it's mortgage rates. Because as a result 87 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's inflation in twenty twenty one, we went 88 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: from about two and a half or three percent mortgage 89 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: rates to around seven percent, and as a result, the 90 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a 91 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you 92 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: out there might be interested in moving, but because you 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling. You're not moving. 94 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: That is the rate many of you out there would 95 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen, 96 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: and that's seven percent on some of these mortgages. You're 97 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: looking around and saying, I just want to rent. This 98 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: is another part where Trump is one hundred percent right. 99 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly 100 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: without hardly any parallels historically, because everything was wrong. Jerome 101 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: Powell completely with Remember he said inflation was transitory. They 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: didn't raise rates fast enough. Then they overly raised rates. 103 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: And right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it 104 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: pertains to the average home. But also if you're buying 105 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: a car, if you are paying credit card debt. 106 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: It's all just. 107 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Too high and we need I mean, honestly, I think 108 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: probably our interest rates are about two points too high, 109 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: and if they would come back by about two points, 110 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: I think you would see an unfreezing of the housing market, 111 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: which would accelerate I think economic recovery and growth in 112 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: a substantial way. To say nothing of business is feeling 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: more able to borrow money because the rate at which 114 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: you're having to pay it back is not so high. 115 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: So this all to me is interconnected. Because the reason 116 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: why Jerome Powell has said he has not cut rates 117 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: is he says the tariffs have a substantial inflationary impact. 118 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: We have not seen that so far. I would just say, 119 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: what has Jerome Powell done well such that we should 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: be trusting his and other Fed governor's opinions on this 121 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: visa VI Trump, because it seems to me Trump if 122 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: you want to criticize him, you can criticize him for 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: lots of things. The guy understands interest rates in real 124 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: estate better than maybe any president we have ever had. 125 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: And I do think that he's right about the fact 126 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: that our economy is not moving as rapidly as otherwise 127 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: would if we could get interest rates correct. 128 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: Look, the economy is something that, unfortunately, I think Trump 129 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: is almost a victim of his own success with this. 130 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: There's an expectation, based on the first time Trump was 131 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: in office, when he was still learning a lot more 132 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: on the job and figuring out who his team should be, 133 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: there was an expectation once again Trump would have a 134 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will 135 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: get things going for all of us. Right at the 136 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some 137 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push, but really 138 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: it and specifically in the big Beautiful Bill by the way, 139 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: they look at what does this mean for the average 140 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: American households disposable income, What does this mean for small 141 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: businesses that are still the economic engine of so much 142 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: hiring and so much of a GDP. So I think 143 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: that this is so far, so good with Trump. It's 144 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: looking really really strong, and it is a moment in 145 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: time where he's not getting all the credit that I 146 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: think he should, or that certainly he would if he 147 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: were a Democrat, but that he should even for a 148 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: Republican because there have been some other things on the 149 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: agenda lately in the news. And also I think that 150 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: Trump is expected to do well on the economy right 151 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: the so part of this that's I think a bit 152 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 4: of a break is a break from the consensus or 153 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: the expectation is when he does the things that they 154 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: say on his own side are going to backfire and 155 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of 156 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: this that's pretty remarkable. 157 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: Now. 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, And if you want to argue on the flip side, 159 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure 160 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: is coming, the inflation pressure is coming, And so that 161 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing. 162 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: With that in mind. 163 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: The prognostication markets, the prediction markets have it fairly likely 164 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: that in September we're going to get a rate cut. 165 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: So that would suggest to me that the Fed is 166 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on 167 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: exactly is going to happen with the tariffs we've got 169 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: now an August first date. There was a panic on 170 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Liberation Day back in early April. Stock market is sold 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery 172 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: of the stock market prices to hold the line when 173 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: it comes to trying to put in place good trade 174 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured 175 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: by the trajectory of the stock market like he might 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: have been in April. Now stock prices go up and down. 177 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: They adjust constantly based on existing economic data, so there's 178 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: still much to be seen. But I think it's very hard. 179 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: We said before the election, Buck this was a three 180 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: prong election. Economy, border crime. Just focused on those three economy. 181 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Stock prices, all time record high, inflation back down. Your 182 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is, 183 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: which means you have more money in your pocket. That's 184 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: a very good thing. Border shut down, deportation process underway. 185 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: We've never had a more secure border and crime. I 186 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: think this is one story that you and I and 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people in media have not focused on enough. 188 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: And I don't want to jinx things because summer is 189 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids 190 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: are out of school, people have more free time, people 191 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: are out in the streets more. They stay out later 192 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in 193 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for the lowest national murder rate that 194 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: we have seen in a generation. Put cops back on 195 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of 196 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: murders is collapsing all over the country because we now 197 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: have police that are able to do their jobs, because 198 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: we have ICE agents supporting violent predators and criminals. And 199 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: it's not getting very much attention, and I don't want 200 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: to jinx it, but as we enter summer, we're staring 201 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: down potentially a generational decline and violent crime in this country. 202 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule 203 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting 204 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: to see the ramp up is real. This has been 205 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: promised all long by the Trump administration, and I think 206 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: Clay part of the panic that we've seen and the 207 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with 208 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 4: any kind of messaging here, is that the more they 209 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes 210 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: that a big majority of the American people, including majorities 211 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: of forget about political party, Black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino 212 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: Americans majority want illegals supported. So they keep doing this 213 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: old playbook of if we just show and we use 214 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: the usual phrases about oh, they're just hard working, and no, actually, 215 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country, 216 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: and the American people have decided that that's not going 217 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: to be okay anymore. This is real and Democrats haven't 218 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: figured out how they're supposed to message this. The Abrago 219 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: Garcia think was a massive own goal for them. I 220 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: think if we all remember that one the guy got 221 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: sent to El Savador MS thirteen guy alleged uh and 222 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: sure enough, Clay, Yeah, they're they're running low on areas 223 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: to hit the president. 224 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: On no doubt good And by the way, the number 225 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: of Americans that as American citizens getting jobs, a lot 226 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look 227 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of 228 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial. 229 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: I think you're starting to see that impact. So all 230 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: of that economy in good place, border in good place, 231 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: crime in good place. That was the three prongs that 232 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: Trump ran on as his twenty twenty four platform, and 233 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: so far he's delivering there in a big way. We'll 234 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: break all this down for you. Continue the discussion about 235 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: what's going on in the border and the drama in 236 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: the courts for sure. In the meantime, finding good health 237 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: care coverage not only difficult, but it can be time consuming. 238 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Something this important, you want to feel good about the 239 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: decision you make. 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So this is very much in pencil because 257 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: it'll be what about two and a half year's ish 258 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for 259 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, and that presumes that it ends by 260 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: super which will be some time in March of twenty 261 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: twenty eight. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom, I don't 262 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: think is a bad one at all. That he's just 263 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: going to power through that he thinks he's the guy, 264 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: the next man up. 265 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Now there will be other people who run. JB. 266 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro, and we will 267 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: see whether any of them are able to give Newsom 268 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: a real run. But it feels like Newsom is already 269 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: running because he's doing all these conservative in quotation mark podcasts. 270 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: I will point out producer Ali, we invited Gavin Newsom 271 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: on this program a long time ago, right, and he 272 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: has never been willing to come on. 273 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 274 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So we have had an open invite back when 275 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: I was when I was sort of enamored of Gavin 276 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Newsom and I just wanted to have a nice chardonay 277 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: with him. We invited him on the program. He has 278 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: not come on, but he has been doing reach out 279 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: to non additional Democrat audiences. And our friend Sean Ryan, 280 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: who lives just up the road from me in Franklin, Tennessee, 281 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: actually I met him through buck several years ago, right 282 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: as he was starting his show. He had Gavin Newsom on, 283 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: and he asked Gavin Newsom a question, Hey, what do 284 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: you think about really young kids? I think he said 285 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: eight year old kids having ginger transition surgeries. Now, this 286 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: is something that I think ninety nine point nine percent 287 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: of parents think is crazy. But it has become Democrat 288 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey, I 289 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a boy, 290 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: or I feel like a boy and you're actually a girl, 291 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: that you should treat it as an honest opinion and 292 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: not as just Hey, young kids believe in lots of 293 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: things that aren't true and they have very fertile imaginations. No, 294 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: you have to treat it as a very serious thing 295 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: that even might require medical treatment. And Sean Ryan asked 296 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsome about this that, and I want you to 297 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: listen to his totally disjointed Gobbly Goook response because it's 298 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: gonna basically be his entire twenty eight campaign. Is all 299 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: the things that I support and my party supports. Well, 300 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen, 301 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: what about for your values? I mean, is eight years 302 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: old too young? 303 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 304 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 5: I mean, look, I now that I have a nine 305 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 5: year old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it. 306 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: So those are legit. You know, it's interesting just the 307 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 5: issue of age. 308 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: I haven't. 309 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: I'm as I and as someone that's been so focused 310 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 5: on equality broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans 311 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: issue for me is also novel. It's over the last 312 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 5: few years. I'm trying to understand as much as anyone 313 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: else thing, trying to understand all of that. 314 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: What you know? That was like the hell? I mean, 315 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: all that stuff, I get it. He gets it. Buck evil? 316 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: Is it evil? Keanu reeves you this is what they're 317 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: gonna do. 318 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna say he gets that you guys might not 319 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: agree with it, and it makes it sound like he 320 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: agrees with you. 321 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: But listen to that whole answer. 322 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic 323 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: to another without having to take any sides. 324 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 4: When when we were talking about this clip right before 325 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: we came on, I said, Clay, he reminds me of 326 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: the used car salesman who really wants you to like him, 327 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: is like, hey, handsome, I'm like, wow, guy who knows 328 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: his way around cars, like you must be you must 329 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: be like fantastic when you're tracking this thing, right, like, 330 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: oh man, love a guy who really you know, sorry, 331 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: you got what I'm saying, but won't tell you the 332 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: price of the car. Like the one thing you want 333 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: to know, how much do you want for this car? 334 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 4: You can't find out how much the car is. But 335 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: he just wants to keep on talking to you and 336 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: getting his hooks into you, so he's going to close 337 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: this deal. He didn't answer the question at all. And 338 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: this is what whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be courted, 339 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: he's like. 340 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 7: Let's just talk about how amazing state of California is. 341 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 7: Love my state, Love my states. 342 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: Like we asked him what you had for breakfast, buddy, Like, 343 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: no one cares about how much you love the state 344 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: of California. But his whole thing is going to be 345 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 4: he runs with you know, he runs on charm and 346 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: hides the substance or has no substance, but same thing. 347 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason 348 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: that people would care about this, and then dodges all 349 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California 350 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: is a broken in many ways left wing kingdom, and 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's 352 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: going to have to turn his back on a lot 353 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: of the crazy of California. And the way he's going 354 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that 355 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: he understands the concerns, and he's going to pivot and 356 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: say things like, we're all Americans, right. This is a conversation. 357 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: I guarantee you this is where it's headed. This is 358 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: a real conversation we should have. What do you mean 359 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: conversation we should have? Do eight year olds deserve to 360 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation 361 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question. 362 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: And he's going to try to dodge all this. We 363 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: saw it earlier when he went on the Charlie Kirk 364 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: podcast and he tried to say that being male and 365 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: competing in women's sports was completely unfair, and then what 366 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: did he do. State of California is fighting right now 367 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't 368 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who 369 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: won track championships in women's high school in California. So 370 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which 371 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a 372 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: bit like Bill Clinton buck, except he doesn't have like 373 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an 374 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is 375 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a 376 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: lot of those people and that's his base. 377 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 4: And you've had the major outflow of people from California, 378 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: which I think is one of the most important data 379 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 4: points you can have on whether a state is functioning 380 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 4: at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them. 381 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: And I think that that number, more than anything else, 382 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again, 383 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 4: it's like people could say, well, the Communists when they 384 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast 385 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course, 386 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 4: because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon 387 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment 388 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: industry and as the hub for innovation and probably the 389 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 4: greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which is 390 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: Silicon Valley that just happened to be in the most 391 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: populous state with the best weather, that was built over 392 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: a period of decades, and that he has taken. This 393 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: is a lot like to build a Blasio phenomenon in 394 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: New York. Those you remember till the Blasio came in. 395 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: He's like, what are you talking about? City streets are clean, 396 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: crime is low, city's doing great, crime is low. We 397 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: kept saying, yeah, but you're messing it up. It's going 398 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: to the wrong direction. And by the time everybody realized 399 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the 400 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 4: whole thing up. When you take over something that is 401 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's 402 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: melting the iceberg though, or actually he's filling the iceberg 403 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: with illegals. But that's what's going on. Yeah. 404 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: Look, I was with a guy from Seattle last night 405 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: watching the The Home Run Derby, and I was having 406 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: the conversation to this on a certain extent, like San Francisco, Seattle, 407 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: and Portland, along with other West Coast cities are among 408 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: the most geographically beautiful in the entire countries we've talked 409 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: about on this program. And it's as if the luxury 410 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: that they have for all of those beautiful attributes to 411 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for granted 412 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: and they don't have to worry about trying to have 413 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: a functional city. And finally, it seems like, at least 414 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up. I 415 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor, 416 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point, 417 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one following Giuliani, 418 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: and now you've got Mom Donnie saying, hey, Bill de 419 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: Blasio did a great job. We need more of this, 420 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that 421 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: you had over a generation in New York City. 422 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us. 423 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: So we have to call it out. But yeah, Gavin Newsom, 424 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: I think is the Democrat right now in the best 425 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: position to be the voice of that party. You have 426 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders, and 427 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat Party 428 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: gets really riled up about those two. And I've said 429 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: they're gonna try to build AOC out. They're gonna try. 430 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if that'll be successful. There's some things 431 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 4: that we can't necessarily foresee when the mood of the 432 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 4: country is what's going on between now and the twenty 433 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 4: twenty eight election. But Bernie is too old, and AOC, 434 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 4: I think really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom is somewhere 435 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: in the Democrat sweet spot of he can talk the game, 436 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: and he can dodge, and he can evade, and you know, 437 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: looks the part. Loves talking, loves the sound of his 438 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: own voice, loves seeing himself on the screen. So that 439 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 4: may be enough with this Democrat Party. We'll see. And 440 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: he does this thing too of you know, reaching across 441 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: to the other side. He never actually reaches across to 442 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: the other side. One of the big things that was 443 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: bizarre to me was was people said when he did 444 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: when he did that that other podcast, not Sean show, 445 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: It's Charlie's show. And he said the thing about trans 446 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: and how he no, he didn't agree that trans athletes 447 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: shouldn't compete against against transgender you know, against women. He 448 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: didn't say that. What he said is basically, I feel 449 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: your pain or this is. 450 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: He said, it's unfair. He said it's unfair, and then 451 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: he didn't follow up on it, but. 452 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 4: He left it and left it open. It's unfair to everybody, 453 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: is the point. It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's 454 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: unfair to the female athlete, it's unfair to society. And 455 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: that's just a moral relativism that you're gonna see a 456 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: lot of, I think because the Democrats try to shore 457 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: up their support by pretending to be something other than 458 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: that which they are, which is always the game play, right, Yes, 459 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 4: Democrats to national elections have to pretend not to be Democrats. 460 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: Look at Joe Biden. If you if you were to 461 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: line up for this is a perfect example of this. 462 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: If you lined up what Joe Biden said and was 463 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: promising in the six months before election day in twenty twenty, 464 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: and I know is COVID everything else, but you know, healing, 465 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: bring the country together, steady, stable hand, all this stuff, 466 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 4: and then the truly left wing lunacy that Biden was 467 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: actually the biggest open border in our history. You know, 468 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: the trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, the trans 469 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or you know, the 470 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: vaccine mandates, and you look up Trump ran and said 471 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: I'm going to do these things, and he is doing 472 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: those things. Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to 473 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 4: win enough voters to be in power, and then they 474 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: hope we just forget every four years, no doubt. 475 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Economy, border crime, It's as easy as EBC. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 509 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 510 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: One thing, Clay, that I want to spend some time 511 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: on in this hour is the immigrations and customs enforcement situation. 512 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: No surprise I am sure to any of you, but 513 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: Alligator Alcatraz, as it has been named, not too far 514 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: from where I am. I think it would probably be 515 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe a two and. 516 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: A half hour drive from here base. Based on our 517 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: drive into the Everglades. It is a substantial effort. Yeah, 518 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: hard to get to. 519 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: We had a very long, arduous drive out to the range, 520 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: in fact in the Everglades, but it was it was 521 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: a tough one. But yes, Alligator Alcatraz not too far 522 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: from where I currently am. Getting a lot of a 523 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: lot of news coverage from Democrats were looking to find 524 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: that thing. If you remember, Clay, under the first Trump administration, 525 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: it was kids in cages. Remember that that was the thing, 526 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: and that was AOC dressed all in white, crying at 527 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: the fence. We remember this, and then the Trump administration 528 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: was like, all right, fine, we're going to do this, 529 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: change the policy on the family separation issue. And the 530 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: left saw, oh my gosh, we can emotionally charge this 531 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: and get outcomes that we want. So that was a 532 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: thing that was going on. But they haven't found that 533 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: this time around. And as we see, they are demonizing 534 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 4: immigrations and customs enforcement officers and on the side of 535 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: the people that would like to dox them and threaten 536 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: them and threaten their families, I mean elected Democrats, because 537 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: they want to make sure that everybody can know who 538 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: these guys are. They're not so concerned with like and 539 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: any other aspect of law enforcement. It seems just this. 540 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: They want to make sure, oh, yes that we know 541 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: what they're not. If they've done misconduct, No, we just 542 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: need to know who they are all the time. Very 543 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: strange Over on MSNBC, this is what they're talking about, Clay, 544 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: this has cut sixteen. Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there. 545 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: One day a week, one day a week, one day. 546 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: Yes, well, that's such a nice sinecure she has, or 547 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: that's such a nice situation. It's like being a tenured 548 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: professor and making thirty million dollars a year to show 549 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: up and teach her once a week class, a class 550 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: that nobody should be paying attention to, a class that 551 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: nobody should want to see, but nonetheless they're paying her 552 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: that Here she is figuring out. She says, what to 553 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: call these Trump holding facilities for illegals? Play sixteen. 554 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 8: In terms of this facility, you use the term internment camp. 555 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 8: And I saw your colleague w Washerman Schultz use that 556 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 8: same phrase. Obviously, that's very evocative language with history in 557 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 8: this country. That is difficult for a lot of people 558 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 8: talk about why you think that term is appropriate. I've 559 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 8: been struggling with that myself, just as a broadcaster, in 560 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 8: terms of how to talk about these things. I mean, 561 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 8: in technical terms, if you've got a facility that's holding 562 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 8: people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there, 563 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 8: and there's no legal process to get out, that is 564 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 8: traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp. 565 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: An internment camp or a concentration camp. Claye, you think 566 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: that's gonna fly. 567 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: No, And look, I think the challenge they have is 568 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: they're on the wrong side of this issue. And this 569 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: is why I believe in the marketplace of ideas, because 570 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: when Trump's came down the escalator in twenty fifteen and 571 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: start arguing for many of the things he's doing now, 572 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: most Americans disagreed with him. And partly that's a function 573 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: of how that was how his desires and his goals 574 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: were covered by the media. I don't think there's any 575 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: way to sugarcoat that. But over time, I believe Trump 576 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't 577 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: have twenty million plus illegals. And the reason I use 578 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: twenty million as the number is because that's the number 579 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes 580 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 2: are illegally in the country. Now, I would imagine that 581 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: number is beginning to decline slowly. But what you're seeing 582 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: is this is the root cause of a huge amount 583 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: of the problems that we have in this country. Whether 584 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: it's and I know a lot of you have experienced this, 585 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated 586 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: in American schools, whether it is the number of illegal 587 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country, 588 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are 589 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take. You know, 590 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: what I've started to see vanish Buck is the argument of, oh, 591 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: these are jobs that Americans won't do. That is such 592 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: an arrogant argument to me, because the entire basis of 593 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: commerce is if you pay people enough to do a job, 594 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: eventually they will do it. And what was it the 595 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: meat packing facility they got rated in Nebraska, if I'm 596 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: not mistaken, they had to go back and rehire, and 597 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 2: they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs. 598 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: And so I just look at it as, yes, it 599 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper to go 600 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: with illegal immigrants as workers. But if you eliminate that 601 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens 602 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much, 603 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: and the end result is actually much more of a 604 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: positive in this country, by the way, Number one way, 605 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: I know in New York City, Mom Donnie's uh game 606 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: plan here too. He ran to a large extent on 607 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: things cost too much, in particular rent. What would rent 608 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: be in New York City if we eliminated a million 609 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: some audi legals from the rental markets? Basic economics would 610 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: suggest that the cost of living for rent would go 611 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: down for all American citizens in New York City, for instance. 612 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: I'll tell you thish the hotels. This is a perfect 613 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: microcosm to macrocosm example of this. Hotels in New York 614 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: City in the era of putting all these you know, 615 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: these migrants, these illegals in the New York City hotels 616 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of 617 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 4: New York. 618 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: And yes, it's crazy what it costs to stay in 619 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: a New York City hotel right now. 620 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 4: You I mean some of you are gonna, you're gonna, 621 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 4: you know, choke on your crocket coffee when I tell 622 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: you this. But you can spend five hundred dollars a 623 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 4: night during the week off season in a New York 624 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: City hotel. That's you know nice. But I mean it's 625 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: not a lot of places I can get. I can get, 626 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: you know, Beach Front up in Jacksonville, like a like 627 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: a gorgeous resort for four or five hundred bucks a night. 628 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: In New York you can stay in like a midtown Marriott, 629 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: you know, like a kind of a standard you know, 630 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: business see kind of hotel. And if you want something nice, 631 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: oh boy. 632 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: Christmas season by our station. This is like December fourteenth 633 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: or whatever it was. I stayed in a hotel room 634 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: where I'm not kidding, I could touch the walls from 635 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: the bed that I was in both sides, right, I mean, 636 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: they barely could fit a bed in this room. I believe, 637 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: Producer Ali was the cheapest room that they could find 638 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: in the vicinity of our hotel. Wasn't that room? Like 639 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars alley? Eight hundred dollars a night one 640 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: night for a room that I could when I laid 641 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: on the bed, I could touch the wall on both sides. 642 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: And it's because one there is the immigrant angle. The 643 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: other angle, which almost no one talks about. They kill 644 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 2: their B and B in New York City, Yes, right, 645 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: So they had a ton of people out there who 646 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: were helping to pay their rent by renting out their places. 647 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: And by the way, I actually, oh really, I'm I'm 648 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm pretty supportive of the of the airbnb restrictions in 649 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: New York City. 650 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: Just oh you are, I am? 651 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because oh, you don't want to live next door 652 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: to somebody who's renting your place out all the time. 653 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. 654 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 4: People. It's and the people move into these buildings and 655 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: they're you know, there are rules, there are contracts, they 656 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 4: agree to things, and one of the things in a 657 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: lot of these buildings, and it's true in a lot 658 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: of cities, right if it's true, like your community association, 659 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: you agree to certain rules and the rules are for 660 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 4: the benefit of everybody if someone is using their their 661 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: you know, one bedroom apartments like an sro a single 662 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 4: romaka Vinci Hotel, which used to have a very bad 663 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: rap from the bad days of New York City when 664 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: they were like drug dens and stuff like that that 665 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: causes problems to the rest of the tenants on the floor. 666 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: I know. 667 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: I have a friend, I know somebody who in New 668 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 4: York his building went back and found all of the 669 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: postings for Airbnb and everything and suit him for all 670 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: of it and one so they take this stuff very seriously. 671 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: I do think it's an inter I'm gonna sound like 672 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom now. I do think it's a real debate 673 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: that should be had because I totally understand the idea, 674 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: and evidently it's become a huge issue in many different 675 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: primary tourist locations around the country. No one wants to 676 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: live full time next to a house that is being 677 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: rented out on AIRBA in the. 678 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: Case in the case of New York, I'm really actually 679 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: just pro a building or a community can say you 680 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 4: can't do this, and can drop the hammer if you 681 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: do it. I actually, I think in the City of 682 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 4: New York they've just decided that in less thirty day, 683 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 4: unless it's a thirty day rental, it's a regulation that 684 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm a little more aligned, I think with how you 685 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 4: see it too. But I absolutely believe if you move 686 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: into a building and you say and you sign things 687 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 4: that say that this is your primary home and you're 688 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 4: not renting it out, you can't rent it out because 689 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 4: it's a you know, you've agreed to a contract on 690 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: entry into that community. Look, we just Clay Well, I'm 691 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 4: now a homeowner for the first time. But some of 692 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: you're gonna laugh the stuff you got to do. Some 693 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 4: of you have lawns. I don't even know what that's like. 694 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 4: The homeowners association, they they lay down the law sometimes 695 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 4: on little things. You'd be surprised. 696 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: It is, yes that in the homeowners associations in America. 697 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: There's many people out there listening right now that are 698 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are 699 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: going on there. I do think though, whatever you think 700 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the 701 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: fact that the illegals have filled up a lot of 702 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: the hotel. 703 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 4: Room, it's about twenty percent. So you can just take 704 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: a just a rough figure, would be hotels are all 705 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: about twenty percent more expensive they would otherwise be. 706 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: I think it gives you a real good examination of 707 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: basic market economics. Right, if you eliminated illegal immigrants from 708 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: the housing market in New York City and only people 709 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: who were legally in the United States or yes, look 710 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: on temporary visas, like all those things, right, the cost 711 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: for the average property I believe in New York City 712 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 2: would plummet tremendously. And I think it's true in many 713 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive, 714 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: and it doesn't take a big city for that reality 715 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: to be I mean, it's basic economics. I think jd 716 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: Vance said this in the debate and the host was like, well, 717 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: what do you base that on. There's twenty million illegals here. 718 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: If we took the twenty million illegals out, that is 719 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: twenty million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live that 720 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand, 721 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: which would lower the overall cost. 722 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: I would think substantially across the board. 723 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: That one of the it was one of the more 724 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 4: brilliant policies. And look, Governor Appitta, Texas does not, I think, 725 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 4: get as much credit as he should for this, or 726 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 4: people don't think about him enough in this regard taking 727 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right 728 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 4: to a sanctuary jurisdiction. They they say they want you. 729 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 4: We're just helping out because in the context of New York, 730 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: it's a big enough city that had enough of a 731 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 4: concentration of these illegals that you could really see the 732 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 4: economic impact. You could really see when they were telling, 733 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 4: you know, middle class neighborhoods of queens were shutting down 734 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 4: your local high school, you know, soccer fields or whatever 735 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 4: so we can house these illegals. You can really see 736 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 4: that thirty percent of emergency room visits were from these 737 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: migrants who were getting just all their healthcare and emergency rooms, 738 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 4: Like you can see this reality and realize, hold on 739 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: a second, if that's from one hundred thousand people in 740 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 4: New York City or one hundred and fifty thousand whatever. 741 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: The number ended up being what does twenty million do nationwide? Ah? 742 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: And you know I got it. Look there's a congresswoman 743 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 4: down here, Salazar. I saw her, and you know she 744 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 4: represents a heavily Latino South Florida constituency. And I love 745 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 4: my South Florida Venezuela and Cuban Americans. They're fantastic people. 746 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 4: But illegal's gotta go. And she's playing this whole game 747 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 4: of oh, but we need dignity for people, not amnesty, 748 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 4: but dignity. No, she means amnesty. Actually she should just 749 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: she should just say what she means. I think she's 750 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: actually my congresswoman. She should just say I want amnesty 751 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 4: for people who have been here for more than five 752 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 4: years who are illegal, Like, let's have a conversation like adults. 753 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 4: I would disagree with that, obviously, but don't give me 754 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 4: this thing of I'm fighting for dignity for people. What 755 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 4: does that mean? That's like the Gavin Newsom thing. Totally 756 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 4: Clay Clay hold on a second, Clay, I hear exactly 757 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: the perspective you're bringing to this critical discusson. It's like, 758 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 4: what does that mean, it means nothing. 759 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: You're eight year old, Gavin, do you think eight year 760 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 2: old should be able to have their genitals chopped off? 761 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: I totally get the interest. I mean, just like, how 762 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: is this real? Vendsor's no, No, eight year old sh 763 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: not be able to have their genitals. This is an 764 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: easy question, a big a big no. 765 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 7: But it's like, yeah, It's like you know, when you 766 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 7: ask these questions, it just reminds me of how smart 767 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 7: you are and how we can all be friends until 768 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 7: I'm president and then I'll destroy everything you've ever loved 769 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 7: or hell dear all right. Making our nation's economy grow 770 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 7: again like it was during President Trump's first term is 771 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: a huge priority. We're telling you every day the good 772 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 7: things going on here. We're not a gloom and doom show, 773 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 7: well catastrophe. Trump's got this economy. It's going well. 774 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 4: But that's the overall economy for three hundred and fifty 775 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: million people, and we still have thirty seven trillion dollars 776 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 4: in debt. We still have major challenges, structural challenges that 777 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: are going to cause issues for your savings in the 778 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,479 Speaker 4: bank and for the value of the dollar. The value 779 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 4: of the dollar last decade is to client substantially. You 780 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: can just check this out yourself. How can you take 781 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: action for you? Not way to around for someone else 782 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: to help you out from the government side of things. 783 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: How can you take action to protect your savings? 784 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 7: Gold? 785 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: And the Birch Gold Group is who I trust. Gold 786 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 4: has increased forty percent of value over the last year, 787 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 4: and central banks from around the world, A lot of 788 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 4: the big central banks are stocking up on gold in 789 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 4: record quantities because they know with all the money printing 790 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 4: and the crypto and all the stuff going on, real 791 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 4: assets matter to them. 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They got an A plus rating with 805 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 4: a Better Business Bureau tens of thousands of happy customers. 806 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 4: Text my name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety 807 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 4: eight today. 808 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: Want to begin to know when you're on the go? 809 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 6: The teen forty seven podcast Trump highlights from the week Sundays. 810 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: At noon Eastern in the Klein Bug podcast feed. 811 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 6: Find it on the iHeartRadio amp or wherever. 812 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: You get your podcasts. 813 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 4: Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset? 814 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck. 815 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 4: It does, but it's actually a big summit going on 816 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 4: in Brazil. The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, 817 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 4: China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members. 818 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens 819 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone. 820 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 4: Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging 821 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 4: economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order. 822 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie. 823 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm listening. 824 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 4: Philip Patrick is our Bruce. He's a precious metal specialist 825 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 4: and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on 826 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: the ground in Rio getting the whole low down on 827 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: what's going on there. 828 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: Can he give us some inside intel. 829 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a 830 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 4: major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim 831 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 4: to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade. 832 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip 833 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: on the line. 834 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 4: Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck 835 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 4: audience this message. 836 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 9: The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily. 837 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 9: These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade, 838 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 9: and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That 839 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 9: shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun. 840 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account, 841 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 4: your four oh one k r ira, all of them, 842 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 4: by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and 843 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 4: reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my 844 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 4: name Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. You 845 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 4: get the free information you'll need to make the right decision. 846 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 4: You can rely on Birch Gold Group as I do 847 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 4: to give you the information you need to make an 848 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 4: informed decision. One more time. Text my name Buck to 849 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety eight. 850 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way, 851 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: I want to say thank you to everybody who is 852 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: subscribing to the YouTube channel. We talked about this, by 853 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: the way, as a good way to help introduce your 854 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: kids or grandkids if they're not in the car listening 855 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 2: to the radio show, if they don't listen to radio 856 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 2: very much. Any way, several thousand of you have already 857 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 2: gone in subscribed. We will have some sort of signature event. 858 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means when we hit one 859 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, which is what I want us to hit. 860 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: We are over eighty thousand. You can search us out 861 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: on YouTube, and I think that you will find that 862 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 2: you are able to share some of the clips that 863 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: we have on this program with your kids and they 864 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: may pay more attention there we. 865 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 4: Get over we get over ninety thousand, okay, which would 866 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 4: be another ten thousand. Where we are we get over 867 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 4: ninety thousand, I'm gonna have to I'll do the puppy 868 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: and the baby on the video, all right, we'll do 869 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 4: Pope combo two for one. So if you're the for 870 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 4: the dog people, you'll get a cute little fluffy dog 871 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 4: and for the baby people, which hopefully all of you 872 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 4: will be a cute a cute baby. 873 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 2: Yes for sure. All right, let me dive in here, 874 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 2: Buck All Star Game. You may not even really remember this, 875 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: because I think it was early in when we were 876 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 2: starting the show. Might have even been right before we 877 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: started the show. Major League Baseball pulled the All Star 878 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: Game out of Atlanta. We talked about this yesterday with 879 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: Governor Brian Kemp because they said that Stacy Abrams and 880 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: Joe Biden were right and that Jim Crow two point zero, 881 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: actually Jim Eagle was what it was described as was necessary, 882 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 2: and they were not allowing minorities to vote. And it's 883 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 2: been proven to be one hundred percent not true because 884 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: the number of voters grew in twenty twenty two, and 885 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: the number of voters grew in twenty twenty four, and 886 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 2: all the state of Georgia did was strengthen the overall elections. 887 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: So a reporter decided that she was going to ask 888 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 2: a question of the straight sports event that was going 889 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: on yesterday. The All Star Game preview and this is 890 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: absolutely bonkers, but I want to play this for all 891 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: of you. This was a mask wearing a mask wearing 892 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 2: reporter to this day, far left wing reporter covering sports, 893 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: someone named Jen ramos Iisen writes for a website called Defector, 894 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: and this person decided that they were going to take 895 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 2: over an All Star Game press conference with this question. 896 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: Buck get ready, there is a. 897 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 10: Law on the books here in Atlanta that is a 898 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 10: voter suppression law that Joe Biden has called Jim Crow 899 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 10: of the twenty five century Dave in twenty twenty one 900 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 10: the MLB Network special, you said, it's about being relentless 901 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 10: with our voices and speaking up and this is not 902 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 10: an isolated moment and it needs to be something talked 903 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 10: about on an ongoing basis and being relentless with it. 904 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 10: What happened to being relentless with our voices? And why 905 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 10: are we in Atlanta when this law is still on 906 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 10: the books, And it is a dangerous situation to be 907 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 10: a journalist in Atlanta because Atlanta has attained the most journalists. 908 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 11: By ISA respect and appreciate the way you feel about it. 909 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 11: And I would assume that there was a reason or 910 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 11: some conversation that was had by the MLB in the 911 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 11: state that all parties thought that this would be a 912 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 11: wonderful host city for the All Star Game, and I 913 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 11: think everybody is all very excited to be back in 914 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 11: the beautiful city of Atlanta. 915 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 4: All right. 916 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 2: So that was Pat McAfee trying to answer the question 917 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 2: that was the host of the event. 918 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: He works at ESPN. 919 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 2: Can you believe that is an All Star press conference 920 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: book All Star Game for Major League Baseball? And this 921 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: crazy left winger says, how are we here when Ice 922 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: is arresting journalists and how in the world can you 923 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 2: play a game here when basically this Jim Crow law 924 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 2: which has not which has been proven to be a lie, 925 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: It is not decreased voting. Actually voting has increased substantially. 926 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: I know. 927 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: I have blown your mind several times about sports media 928 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 2: and how left wing they are. Can you believe that 929 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: was the second question at the Major League Baseball All 930 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: Star Game event yesterday? 931 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 4: Uh? Okay, So I'm just confused a little bit. Where 932 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 4: was this person? What publication was she from? 933 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: We do something? 934 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, OutKick has a story because they dove in to 935 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: figure out like who is this person. That person is 936 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: a writer for a website called Defector. She showed up, 937 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 2: which I guess does some sports. I don't know how 938 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,240 Speaker 2: they got credentialed candidly, but I guess they do some sport. 939 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 2: And that person has a wore a mask. So this 940 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 2: is not Some people out there are saying, hey, and I'm. 941 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: One of them. 942 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball should have to issue a public apology 943 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 2: to State of Georgia, to the City of Atlanta, brace 944 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: fans for pulling the game out under false pretenses. Right, 945 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: they were wrong, and they've never acknowledged it. But that's 946 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 2: not this. This is Hey, this was the right decision. 947 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 2: Why are you guys back here? And oh, by the way, 948 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: how can you even come here when journalists are being 949 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: arrested by ice? Well, imagine if you imagine if you 950 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 2: banned Atlanta from holding sporting events and then open yourself 951 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: up to the fact that Atlanta's is as a city, 952 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: I believe it's about fifty percent it's a majority black city. 953 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: So you're actually harming black people here when you don't 954 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 2: have big events in the city. 955 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 4: So the theory among the left or among some of these 956 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 4: this journalist or whatever, this must be an idea that's 957 00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: out there is let's punish a great American city that 958 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 4: is also majority black, and but we will punish the 959 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 4: city because it is the state of Georgia is racist. 960 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 4: That's that's where that's where we are. We're gonna we're 961 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 4: gonna hurt Atlanta, which is a great city, which is 962 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 4: a majority black city. We're gonna hurt Atlanta because you 963 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 4: want to show that we disagree with the law in 964 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 4: the state of Georgia. Like, I don't even know how 965 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 4: that holds together. I mean, put aside that the whole 966 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 4: thing is absurd and that actually there's been greater black 967 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 4: voter turnout than ever before, and there is no voter 968 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: suppression law in Georgia, and that's all a lie, and 969 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: the statistics show about it. But this is, you know, Clay, 970 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 4: some people just want to be mad about things. And 971 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 4: I guess this is This journalist had a mask on. 972 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 4: Did you tell me that too. 973 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had a mask on. 974 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: And Ali Defector is an employee owned sports and culture 975 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 2: website brought to you by the former staffers of dead Spin. 976 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 4: Oh okay, commun evil communists. She's an evil communist communists. 977 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 4: I know it used to work there, right, that was, 978 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 4: but well back in the day. For this is taking 979 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 4: people back into the history of the Internet. Back in 980 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 4: like eight oh nine when I was there, dead Spin 981 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 4: was just kind of a bro culture website, like, hey, 982 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 4: let's have fun. Let's kind of laugh about sports. Their 983 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 4: trajectory from sports are fun. Let's laugh about them and 984 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 4: like them more. 985 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 2: To now this defector site, which is a spin off 986 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: of dead Spin too, We're going to send an employee 987 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 2: in a mask because she's worried about COVID. I guess 988 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 2: to grill Major League Baseball about. I mean, there are 989 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,399 Speaker 2: so many people whose brains have been broken that this 990 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 2: could be allowed to have occurred. Is Actually it's a 991 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 2: fascinating story to kind of look at the way they 992 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: took over the culture of sport through sports media members 993 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,439 Speaker 2: who are far more left wing than the average fan, 994 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 2: and allowed those sports media members to terrorize so many 995 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 2: people from speaking out that we really got to the 996 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 2: point where dudes are winning women's championships. I don't think 997 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 2: it's coincidental that they tried to take over the culture 998 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 2: and they're still trying. 999 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 4: I mean, look, just to be clear, I also could 1000 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 4: tell stories here. Do you know that the Huffington Post, 1001 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 4: because the media landscape was very different. You were saying 1002 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 4: dead Spin was different when you were there, right, you 1003 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 4: know that huff Post Live used to invite me on 1004 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me live as a conservative. It happened 1005 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 4: a couple of times because they thought they were like, 1006 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 4: they're like, well you're you may be a conservative, but 1007 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 4: you're smart. That was always the backhanded thing they would 1008 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 4: say to me, like the different hosts that would have 1009 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 4: me on, And I was like, well a lot of 1010 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 4: us are smart. I think we're smarter than you guys are. 1011 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 4: But anyway, put that aside. Huff Post Live, do you 1012 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 4: remember the site Mike mic Mike dot com. I probably, yeah, 1013 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 4: I do, vegue, I do vaguely. I do vaguely remember 1014 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 4: that site. They they brought me in because they wanted 1015 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 4: alternate voices and they talked to me about writing a 1016 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 4: column for them. This is like, again, this would have 1017 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 4: been when you were were were Dead's when you were 1018 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 4: twenty eleven or something or twenty ten or how far back? 1019 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 2: Oh even you? I mean the site launched. I think 1020 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: I was there in like eight oh okay, I was 1021 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 2: very early, still in my twenties. 1022 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 4: So I'm saying when I when I started doing this stuff, 1023 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 4: which was twenty eleven, even I was like a HuffPost 1024 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 4: wanted to talk to me, Mike dot Com. I remember 1025 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 4: they asked me for my thoughts on police violence, like 1026 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 4: what would you run on police funds? And there this 1027 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 4: was the early It was the early days of Ferguson. 1028 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 4: So maybe this was like twenty twelve or twenty eleven, 1029 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 4: I can't remember now. And I was like, you guys, 1030 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 4: I remember being there. I never ended up writing anything 1031 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 4: for them. I remember just thinking. I was like, you 1032 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 4: guys are insane. Yeah, And they had all this venture 1033 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 4: capital funding and everything else, like the people who work 1034 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 4: here are crazy. But there was this game of they 1035 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 4: would have alternate voices and things. The problem is when 1036 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 4: you let and this is my real takeaway for all 1037 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 4: of you're like, why are you telling us this media history? 1038 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 4: No one needs to know. When you let any leftist 1039 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 4: into an entity, as I always say, it is like 1040 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,879 Speaker 4: in nature an invasive species, they will they will not 1041 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 4: just multiply, they will multiply and intentionally block out those 1042 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 4: who are not leftists. 1043 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 5: Right. 1044 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 4: So the problem with the European House sparrow. Fun fact 1045 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 4: for all of you is that the European house sparrow 1046 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 4: not only is very hearty as a species, but also 1047 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 4: will destroy the eggs and the nests of other birds 1048 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 4: so that it will outcompete them in the area. If 1049 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 4: you let a leftist into your media organization, or you 1050 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 4: let enough leftist get a toe hold, they will take 1051 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 4: it over. This happened at CNN. They will take it 1052 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 4: over and make it completely insane, totally correct. And this 1053 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 4: is something I've been thinking about a lot, because, to 1054 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 4: your point, the culture used to not be like this, 1055 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 4: and I'm hoping that we're going to come out of 1056 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 4: it and return. But I think the only way we 1057 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,399 Speaker 4: can do that is by ridiculing stories like these and 1058 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 4: making it so clear where look, if this person wants 1059 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 4: to share her opinion, then write her opinion. But what 1060 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 4: she's trying to do is launder her opinion through more 1061 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 4: faith as people and hold their feet to the fire 1062 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 4: and make them attached. 1063 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 1: To her opinion. 1064 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 2: Right my opinion, I'm speaking as if I was this 1065 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 2: crazy chick. My opinion is that Atlanta should never be 1066 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: able to host the All Star Game because they passed 1067 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: this voting bill and also because journalists aren't safe because 1068 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 2: the ICE is going to arrest them. Okay, write that opinion, 1069 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 2: don't ask people who are famous to endorse your opinion, 1070 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 2: and turn does that make sense? 1071 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: It's agenda journalism, and I think people see it now. 1072 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 2: But this has been building for a decade or more 1073 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 2: and the goal I think is quite clear. It's to 1074 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 2: try to take over big parts of culture and mold 1075 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: them in your direction, as opposed to just let people 1076 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 2: be normal. So I wanted to play that for you 1077 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: because I heard it even I was like, oh, the 1078 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 2: second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game. 1079 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 4: But you also ask yourself, what is what does this 1080 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 4: person even want? So that this is what I meant 1081 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 4: by you're going to punish Atlanta? 1082 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, The tangible result of what her position would 1083 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: be would be that a majority black city is not 1084 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 2: able to host a big sporting events. 1085 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 4: Huge sure to take take money out of the hands 1086 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 4: of yes, black business owners in a great American city 1087 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 4: because you're a misanthrope or a malcontent who just doesn't 1088 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 4: want to ever be celebrating anything. You're at a scants conference, 1089 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 4: for heaven's sake. 1090 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: And is wrong like whatever like you could at least 1091 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: make that argument before the twenty twenty two election and 1092 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election happened. Now we know that all 1093 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,919 Speaker 2: that bill did was strengthen the law and that they 1094 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: have actually been proven wrong. The data doesn't lie. 1095 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: Look. 1096 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: Prospect of a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas terrist has 1097 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 2: slowed down considerably of late. 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