1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of Packers Unscripted 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: always by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkoitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at Lambeaufield and West. It's 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: actually been a week since we sat in these chairs 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: because last week was a different sort of week around 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: here with Thursday night football against Washington. But the Packers 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: pulled it out an impressive twenty seven to eighteen victory 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: over the team that was one of the last two 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: standing in the NFC last year. And I think when 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: you look at this game, we talked as much as 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: we could on our previous show in previewing this game 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: and what the Packers are going to be up against 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: with Jaden Daniels, that young quarterback for the Washington Commanders. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: But the defensive effort against Daniels was really outstanding pretty 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: much from start to finish. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna get my phone out here. I 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: want to because i want to get the stat right. 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw what I tweeted out 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: this morning, but I thought this was pretty remarkable. The 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: NFL does a tremendous job with their research department, yeah, 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: of providing some context for some of these performances. So 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: just to give you an idea of the performance that 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay had against the reigning NFL offensive rookie of 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: the Year, the Commanders eighteen points tied for their fewest 26 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: in any of Jaden Daniels' twenty two career starts, including 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: the playoffs, and also the fewest total yards two hundred 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: and thirty yards per play, three point five rushing yards, 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: fifty one and fifteen first downs in a Daniels start. 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: They had them completely bottled up. 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for green Bay too. 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: They allowed seventeen rushing yards to Daniels, they only allowed 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: fifty one for the entire game. The downfield options, they 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: didn't really even have an explosive play until the fourth quarter. 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: I was blown away by what we saw, Mike, because 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: it took everything that Green Bay did well against the 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, and they carried everything over on four days 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: notice to do it again against the Washington Commanders. The 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: game again, as Matt Lafloor talked about on Monday, probably 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: a little bit closer and you want it to be, 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: particularly in the second half, but be that as it made. 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: These are not easy football teams. Ask the Chicago Bears 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: what they think of the Detroit Lions right now, right 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: these are two very good football teams that are going 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: to be in the hunt all season long. And the Packers, 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: for all intensive purposes, really handed. 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: It to them. 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. The seventeen rushing yards by Daniels, I think is 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: what jumps out at me, because I mean, this is 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: a guy he finished second in the league in terms 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: of quarterback rushing yards, behind only Lamar Jackson last year 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: in winning that Offensive Rookie of the Year honor. And 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I put together a quick piece that posted Monday on 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: our website. I've sort of called it like the crazy 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: stat from the game. And when you look at it, 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: so four sacks against Jayden Daniels, outstanding job by the 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: pass rush. But it wasn't just the four sacks. It 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: was that they got twelve quarterback hits on a very mobile, 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: elusive quarterback. I mean, they punished him in a lot 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: of ways. And I took a look back at the 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years and I had counted up and 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I listed in the story over the last two years 63 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: fourteen other games in which you could classify the opposing 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: quarterback as a mobile or elusive quarterback. So I'm not 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: talking about the Sam Darnold's and the Jared Goffs of 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: the world, right We're talking about Jalen Hurts and Russell 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Wilson and guys like that over the last couple of years. 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: And when you look at the quarterback hits that the 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Packers had in those games against mobile, elusive quarterbacks in 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: those fourteen games, it was an average of like four 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: and a half per game, and the Packers got twelve 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: against Jayden Daniels. That just shows you where this pass rush, 73 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: how disruptive Green Bay's pass rush is right now. And yes, 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons is having a huge part to do with that. 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: But when eight different guys in a game get a 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: quarterback hit, as you rack up twelve on a quarterback 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: who's not exactly easy to track down, that says something 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: about the collective effort. And that's really what's been most 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: impressive about it. 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: And for me too, looking into those numbers, only one 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: of those guys was not an absolute defensive front player, 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Edrin Cooper. There were many times last year where it 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: was it was safeties, it was inside backers. No, it 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: was the defensive line getting after Jaden Daniels. 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: And when you think about. 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: Those mobile type quarterbacks, ultimately, that's what it comes down to, right, 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: It's the guys up front that can you not only 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: collapse the pocket, but can you make life very difficult 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: on those players eight pressures according to NFL next Gen 90 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: Stats for Micah Parsons three quarterback hits a team high 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: in this game. And obviously you had the sack there 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: as well with Edrin Cooper, but it was watching Rashaan 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: Gary get after it when number one wasn't on the field. 94 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: It was seeing Lucas Vanes starting to grow into his 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: game more and more, and then not forsaking the run 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: defense in that pursuit either. I mean, when you look 97 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: at what Washington had done a week earlier two hundred 98 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: and thirty rushing yards against the New York Giants, the 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: Packers more than quartered that in this match. Yeah, so 100 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: the defense set the tone and somebody, an insider inbox, 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've caught this or not. Insider 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: inbox made a really good observation when when the Packers 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: punt the ball, you don't really feel like everything is lost. 104 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: There's almost like a swagger now when the defense goes 105 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: on the field. 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Here comes the defense like like, you're not worried about it. 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens here. 108 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not worried about Hey, are they going to 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: put up some points or anything. It's like, hey, is 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: there a potential pick six? Is there a fumble recovery? 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: Is there going to be a turnover? Is there going 112 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: to be a three and out? This is a situation 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: green Bay has not been in a lot during my 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: fourteen years covering this team. Remarkable output in this matchup. 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was as you said, it was a 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: continuation defensively from the opener against Detroit and now in 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: two straight games, two of the best offenses from twenty 118 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: twenty four in the NFL, neither one could find the 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: end zone against green Bay until the fourth quarter. So 120 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: that's happened now in back to back games, and before 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: we shift gears to the offense to stick with the defense, 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we didn't mention the performance 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: by Keishawn Nixon at cornerback. He ends up with five 124 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: passes defense or passes broken up, whatever phrase you'd like 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: to use. PBUs for short. The last Packers defensive back 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: to have five PBUs in a game, you have to 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: go back to Jiu Alexander's rookie season in twenty eighteen, 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: which was a game against the Rams at the Old 129 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: LA Coliseum. To find a Packers defender with five PBUs 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: in a game. What I saw was Jayden Daniels in 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: some ways getting frustrated with not being able to move 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: the ball consistently, and he kind of started to lock 133 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: in on Terry mclaurin's number one target and in some 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: respects was trying to force the ball into his best 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: receiver's hands, and Kishawn Nixon just wasn't having it. He 136 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: just wasn't letting it happen. And and hats off to Nixon, 137 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: but again, this when you see that kind of work 138 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: in the back end, it is a it's it's an 139 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: illustration of how much the rush and the coverage go 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: hand in hand when you play good defense. Because Keishawn 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Nixon is out there not feeling like he has to 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: cover receiver for three and a half or four four 143 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: and a half seconds. He knows that either that quarterback 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: is going to get hit in a couple of seconds 145 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: or that ball is going to come out, and when 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: the guys in the back end can can have that 147 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: as part of their internal clock and the way they 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: react and the way they play and the way they 149 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: break on the ball, that's that's where the rush in 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the and the coverage become very coordinated. And I thought 151 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: we saw that in annumber of instances, the way Nixon 152 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: was defending his man. 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: The thing that stood out to me the most with 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: this performance two things. One the fact that they kept 155 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: testing key Sean and he kept deflecting these passes. Yes, 156 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: they could not get anything going, but Daniels threw the 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: ball forty two times and had two hundred passing yards. 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: And that's including that kind of garbage time series at 159 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: the end of the game you were mentioning, I'll just 160 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: bring up these stats, Terry McLaurin. Five catches on nine targets, Yeah, 161 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: for forty eight yards. Noah Brown one catch for nine 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: yards on four targets. I think the other three that 163 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: were deflected that didn't I think we're all breakups by 164 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: Keyshawn Nixon and then Jalen Lane one catch for two 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: yards on four targets. The Packers secondary went to work 166 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: in this game, and we were talking with Xavier McKinney afterwards, 167 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: and he did say, it's tough right now because it's 168 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: getting a little boring. 169 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you, As. 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm watching Russell Wilson threw up a five hundred hail 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: Mary at the end of that game against Dallas, as 172 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm watching Caleb Williams just just give an absolute gift 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: to Kirby Joseph. I'm like, man, yeah, you wish that 174 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: Zaber McKinney would get some of these balls. I mean, 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Zavery McKinney had to earn a lot of his interceptions 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: last year and that those passes just haven't been there 177 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: this year. But when you factor in how he's performing, 178 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: the interception that Evan Williams had last week, the way 179 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: that I thought Javon Bullard looked in the slot, and 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: how physical he played, and then they used a rotation 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: at the other cornerback position between Carrington Valentine and a 182 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: returning Nate Hobbs, and I thought both of those guys 183 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: balled out were given their opportunities, which isn't easy to 184 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: do when you're not in an every down rhythm. Certainly, 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: Keishawn Nixon was a headliner in this matchup. Five PBUs, 186 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: the most in seven years. That's remarkable. But I thought 187 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: that secondary by and large played really really well. 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so too well. Shifting gears to the 189 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Maybe the biggest, you know, 190 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: the only disappointment as far as early on in this 191 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: game is that the Packers just barely misfired on the 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: opening possession, you know, looking for that fast start again 193 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: like they had against Detroit. They decide to pass on 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the long field goal. They go with a quick snap, 195 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: thinking maybe they've got you know, the twelve men on 196 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: the field for Washington. That didn't happen. It's fourth down 197 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: and Matthew Golden is open, but unfortunately Jordan Love underthrows 198 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: it just a little bit, so the first possession comes 199 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: up fruitless. But the Packers still took command of this game. 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: And by you know, whatever, it was the middle of 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: the third quarter or so, I mean, you're, you know, 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: you're sitting at seventeen to three and and the Packers 203 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: are are are in a pretty good spot. And the 204 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: guy who was you know, sort of I guess you'd 205 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: call him the unstoppable force in this particular game was 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: tight end Tucker Craft. 207 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: One of the most aspiring performances I've seen from a 208 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: Packers tight end in the fact fact that Kraft does 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: this from a place of being completely well rounded. Jermichael 210 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Finley in credit to Jermichael for what he accomplished here, 211 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: but he was always more of a slash receiver, right. 212 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 3: There was even a debate. 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: At one time when his franchise taking him, we're coming 214 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: up as if he's going to be a receiver a 215 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: tight end. Tucker Craft is your tried and true, blue 216 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: collar tight end, but he's rounded out his game in 217 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: such a way that I mean, we're watching as I 218 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: joked about and said last week and Insider Inbox, there 219 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: isn't a comparison for me for Tucker Craft. To me, 220 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: he is the guy that the next guy is going 221 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: to be compared to to have the most receiving yards, 222 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: have the most productive day through the air for a 223 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: Packers tight end since the Richard Rogers Hail. 224 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Mary Gain the Hail Mary Detroit. 225 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that shows you how productive he was in this matchup. 226 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: And as cool as that fifty seven yard catchdown the 227 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: scene was, and it was awesome. Third longest catch of 228 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: his career, by the way, not even in the top 229 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: two yet. But when the Packers and needed that response late, 230 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: Tucker Craft came through. When you talk about putting in 231 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: sealing this victory, it was Tucker Craft. It was Josh Jacobs. 232 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: He's a finisher man and he does not blink. You 233 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: look back to what happened against Detroit. He gets his 234 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: helmet ripped off. The next play, he's running right at 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: Brian Branch to the end zone for a fifteen yard touchdown, 236 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: catching it and just taking whatever ramifications come with it 237 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: in this game. To be this productive, to come up 238 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: in these type of situations, this guy's made of the 239 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: right stuff, dude, And it was remarkable to watch. 240 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I like best? What I like best about 241 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: this Packers offensive performance, and it was flawed. Had There 242 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: were a couple of false starts in the game, one 243 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: on Tucker Craft. Actually, there were multiple holding calls, one 244 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: of which on right tackle Anthony Belton, which we'll get 245 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: into more of that in a minute, but it was 246 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: on that first drive of the game, Belton gets called 247 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: for holding and it wipes out a touchdown pass to 248 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Jayden Reid, which unfortunately was a play where Jayden Reid 249 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: broke his collar bone, and we can get into that 250 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: more it as well. So it was a flawed offensive performance. 251 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: But what I like best about it is that in 252 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: a game that the Packers were seemingly in command and 253 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: in control for the bulk of it, when Washington did 254 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: find the end zone early in the fourth quarter, suddenly 255 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: it's seventeen to ten. So now you're at the point 256 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: where there's still whatever it was, twelve thirteen minutes left 257 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: on the clock. It's a one score game, and the 258 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: offense has to answer the bell because it's one thing 259 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: for the opponent when they've been behind by multiple scores 260 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: to get it to a one score game. It's another 261 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: thing for that opponent to get the ball back and 262 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: still only be down one score. So the Packers get 263 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: the ball after Washington cuts it to seventeen to ten, 264 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: they need to answer the bell, and what do they do. 265 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: They go sixty five yards down the field in nine plays, 266 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: finishing it off with a really nice play action touchdown 267 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Tucker Craft. We saw some creativity in 268 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: the run game with Stavion Williams, you know, taking a 269 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: direct snap going one way, then the very next play, 270 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: you run the end around with Matthew Golden going the 271 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: other direction, so you're stretching the defense laterally as you 272 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: as you're moving the ball down the field, and then 273 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: you hit them with the play action pass for the 274 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. So suddenly then it's twenty four to 275 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: ten and you're midway through the fourth quarter, and for 276 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: the most part, you've put the game away there because 277 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: you didn't allow Washington to get the ball back only 278 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: down one score. They when they got it back, they 279 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: were still down two scores again. And that's that's how 280 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you win games in this league, because because a lot 281 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: of things can go right and wrong and whatever through 282 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the first three quarters, but when you need to put 283 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: together a fourth quarter drive, the Packers did that offensively, 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: and it was what put this one away. 285 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: First thing, just on the touchdown by Craft. It shows 286 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: you the brilliance not only a Matt lafleur, but also 287 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: just with Green Bay using the two tight end sets 288 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: the way they use, which an insider Inbox even made 289 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: the comment that this is almost in a way becoming 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: the base offense for this now that you have Luke 291 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: Musgrave back. I mean, Musgrave is playing, but you also 292 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: have John Fitzpatrick almost as seen as many snaps as 293 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: he have, just based on what they can do on 294 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: the field together and on that particular play, the two 295 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: big plays. When you look at Craft's game, there was 296 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: an option for another tight end to be involved too. 297 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: The fifty seven yarder. He said, yeah, if they cover me, 298 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: then Musgrave's open on the touchdown. The way they're able 299 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: to seal off on the outside, that is what is 300 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: allowing Tucker Craft to sneak by and leak into the 301 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: end zone for the touchdown. Just amazing production. Again, the 302 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: most productive day, tied for the most productive day by 303 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Packer tight ends since the merger in nineteen seventy. It 304 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: just so happens the two thousand and nine team had 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: the same one hundred and fifty six yards receiving against 306 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: Brett Favre's Minnesota Vikings. That being said, that drive was critical, 307 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: I leaned over to you and I said, this is 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: a pivotal point of this game. For Matt Lafleur, for 309 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, they needed a response in what I liked 310 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: about the way that Lafleur called it. He showed not 311 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: only creativity but faith in his young playmakers. Sadie On 312 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: Williams has not practiced a lot. He certainly has not 313 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: played a lot due to some injuries. They've been dialing 314 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: up a lot of different concepts for him, though that 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: are not the traditional receiver sets. This is a guy 316 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: that did end the rounds. 317 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: He ran the ball. 318 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: He played some quarterback at TCU and they just put 319 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: their hand directly into that cookie jar and pulled something 320 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: out and got a sixteen yard run out of it. 321 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: But if he stays on his feet, who knows how 322 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: much that could have broke. For Okay, that was a 323 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: fun play. On the very next play, they run the 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: sweep over to Matthew Golden for nine yards. The Packers 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: didn't just say, okay, well, we'll run a slant or 326 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: a stopper here to Romeo Dobbs, or we'll do something 327 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: in the flat. 328 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: For Tucker Krapt. 329 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: They went deep into their offensive playbook at a time 330 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: in which they really needed a response, and they were 331 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: rewarded by these young players. That is the exciting thing 332 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: about this team. It's not about how many guys catch 333 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: the ball. It's about the threat of how many guys 334 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: could possibly catch the ball or touch the ball and 335 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: the rookies made Matt Leafluir look really smart. 336 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that says something when you're putting the ball 337 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: in the hands of your rookies with a big game 338 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: on the line in the fourth quarter and whatnot. As 339 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: you said, it shows, it shows the faith and what 340 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: they believe these guys can contribute now. And obviously then 341 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: it's these opportunities and cashing in on these opportunities that 342 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: will build on what's to come for young players like 343 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: Williams and Golden. Unfortunately, the bad news on the offensive 344 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: side is the injuries I mentioned Jaden Reid. He ends 345 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: up breaking his collarbone on what was a tremendous throw 346 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: and catch that unfortunately wasn't a touchdown because of a 347 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: holding penalty on Anthony Belton, and so Reid is going 348 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: to be out for an extended time. Here. On the 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: offensive line, the Packers were down two starters in this game. 350 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks, the left guard was out with a ankle, slash, 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: ankle and groin injuries, and then at right tackle, Zach 352 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: tom also not able to make it back on the 353 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: short week with the oblique injury. So we saw Jordan Morgan, 354 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: last year's first round pick. He stepped in for Banks 355 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: at left guard and then at right tackle. It was 356 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: a rotation for a while between the rookie Anthony Belton 357 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: and then the newcomer, the new veteran acquisition and Darien Kinard. 358 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: But then other than that holding penalty on the opening 359 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: drive of the game, Anthony Belton really held his own 360 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: and the Packers kind of turned it over to him 361 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: in the second half and let him. Let the rookie 362 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: second round pick ride this thing out and we'll see 363 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: what happens injury wise as far as these guys on 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: the offensive line for this week's trip to Cleveland, but 365 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: the Packers felt pretty good about the way they came 366 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: out of this game and the way the depth on 367 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: their offensive line came through. 368 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: First and foremost, Jordan Morgan, My hat goes off to him. 369 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: This is a guy that has played right guard, he's 370 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: played left tackle. He ends up being in the left 371 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: guard spot, and for the better part of that game 372 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: you didn't. 373 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: Even hear his name, right. I mean, he came in. 374 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: Clutch in a huge because we knew something was going 375 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: to be up, probably with Zach Tom From the moment 376 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: that he went out. That was not a great looking 377 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: injury against Detroit. The Aaron Banks thing happened late, so 378 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: then you're kind of in this thing of okay, well 379 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: it's an ankle, the groin. Where is he going to 380 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: be at? Is he potentially in the cards for Green Bay? 381 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: And it ends up being Jordan Morgan having to play 382 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: that position at with no real practice rep So your 383 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: hat goes off to him. Anthony Belton proved something to 384 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: me in this game and that if he makes a mistake, 385 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: he's going. 386 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: To make the corrections to it. He made the. 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: Mistakes in Indianapolis where he had the multiple penalties and 388 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, ends up finishing strong in the second half. 389 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: The same thing happened in this game that could have 390 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: been something that sort of disheveled him. And he even said, 391 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: he's like, you know, if stuff happens like that, you 392 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: let it affect you, It's only going to make things worse. 393 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: He made the adjustments. And the thing I love about him, Mike, 394 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw some of these highlights 395 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: on Twitter, but like these these little bumps he's doing. 396 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: The guy is so naturally powerful that if some but 397 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: a pass rusher is off balance, he is going to 398 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: put you on the ground six foot six, three hundred 399 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: and thirty six pounds from the day that they drafted him. 400 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: You and I have talked about how this is not 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: the standard Packers tackle. This guy is a monster at 402 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: that position, and when you use that type of physicality 403 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: and when you have that type of approach to your game, 404 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: the possibilities the right tackle position. That is, he played 405 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: it the way that historically the right tackle position has 406 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: been played in this league a mauler, and I think 407 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: it showed the Packers that Zach Tom is their franchise. 408 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: He is their cornerstone, He is their pillar. He has 409 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: proved himself to be that. But if you're gonna be 410 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: without him, especially with the stretch that the Green Bay 411 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: Packers are approaching here this week, I thought Anthony Belton 412 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: really put his best foot forward. 413 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he did too, And I remember talking 414 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: We talked a lot on this show and I wrote 415 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: about it as well after the preseason game in Indy 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: when he had the multiple different kinds of penalties and 417 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: all this in the first half and he's kind of 418 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: getting berated by Matt Lafleur as they're coming off the 419 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: field at halftime, and you you knew in that moment 420 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: when the Packers coaches left him out there in the 421 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: second half at Indian said all right, shake it off 422 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: and go play. And that's exactly what he did. And 423 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you you knew coming out of that that that could 424 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: end up being a really really important game and important 425 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: building block for a young player that for all the 426 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: mistakes that he was making in the first half of 427 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: that game, the coaches didn't just yank him out and 428 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: sit him on the bench. They put it. They they 429 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: left him out there and said, young man, go play. 430 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: And and the Packers are seeing the fruits of that 431 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: approach much earlier in the season than maybe then maybe 432 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: we thought, but you just you never know when those 433 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: injuries are going to strike and when you're gonna call 434 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: on your depth uh to come through for you. In 435 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: in this case, that happened to be on a short 436 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: week with a big time opponent coming into lambeau Field, primetime, 437 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: under the lights, the whole thing, and h and after 438 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: the first drive of the game the one mistake that 439 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: he made, Anthony Belton delivered. 440 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: This is probably the number one argument for preseason games. Yes, 441 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: this is a guy you talk about Packers offensive linemen 442 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: that have kind of had to earn their stripes in 443 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: training camp in preseason, the guys that play one hundred 444 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: and fifty two hundred snaps in the preseason. That's why 445 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: you invest that into it, because you might be in 446 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: a situation like this and now it's not new to you. 447 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: You're not learning having to learn those lessons in the 448 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: biggest situations possible. And for Belton, I'll tell you this, 449 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: I've watched a lot of offensive line play over the years. 450 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: Couldn't grade it for you, but I've watched a lot 451 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: of it. If you gave me the choice between a 452 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: guy that makes some mistakes and draws a few flags 453 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: early on but has his makeup or the guy that 454 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: maybe does everything right but physically cannot hold up to 455 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: the position and is getting beat, I'll take the former. 456 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he showed the Packers why. 457 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. You can coach, you can coach technique, you can 458 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: coach your way through mistakes. There are certain things in 459 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: this game about players in their makeup that can't be coached, 460 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: and that's what you find out. You find out if 461 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: the if young players have what it takes. One other 462 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: injury update West before we got to pay some bills 463 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: around here. Christian Watson, he talked with reporters at his 464 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: locker after Monday's practice, kind of the bonus practice when 465 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: the team comes back from the mini buy on the 466 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: weekend off and we know this receiving core now will 467 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: be without Jayden Reid for a while. Christian Watson is 468 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: not back yet. You have the three veterans, Dobbs, Wis, 469 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: Malik Heath had a great catch on the overturned replay 470 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: review against Washington. We talked about the rookies working in 471 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: now with Golden and Williams. So the Packers have the depth, 472 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: They have what they need to withstand this absence of 473 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Jaden Reid, however long it is. But it sounds like 474 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Christian Watson might be back awfully soon. He's not eligible 475 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: to come back until after the first four games of 476 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: the regular season. He's not eligible to practice until then 477 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: because he started the regular season on the pup list, 478 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: And then after those first four games, the Packers actually 479 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: have their bye week. So it's a matter of I 480 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: guess watching with intent interest when the Packers return from 481 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: there by, are we going to see Number nine out 482 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: there on the practice field? He he talked about having 483 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of the pressure taken off by being able to 484 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: sign that that short term contract extension. So he's not 485 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: he's no longer in a contract year at this point 486 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: because he's now under contract for next year with Green 487 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: Bay as well. But he basically told the reporters that 488 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: he's done everything there is to do in his rehab 489 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: and to get back and be ready to play except 490 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: to practice. Practice is the is the next step for him, 491 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: and it sounds like it sounds like Number nine is 492 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: going to be back here before too much longer. 493 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: It was great listen to Christian at his locker on Monday, 494 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: because a couple things here. This guy's a natural born 495 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: later we've all known that stand up Guy award winner 496 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: for the Packers Media Corps already at one point. I'm 497 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: sure at some point in his career i could see 498 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: him being a NFL Man of the Year type guy. 499 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: This is what is. 500 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: This is what the guy presents as a ballplayer. So 501 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: when I say this, it doesn't come from a point 502 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: of how he was ever immature, That's not it, but 503 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: the maturity that he showed while being at his locker 504 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: and explaining, yeah, I've come back quick a lot of 505 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: times this time. I want to be one hundred percent 506 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: Christian Watson when I'm back on the field. I don't 507 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: want to be ninety I don't even want to be 508 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: ninety five. I want to be one hundred percent. I 509 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: want to be the player that everybody knows he can be. 510 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: And it's not just about being healthy, It's about being 511 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: ready and being healthy. And I don't know when Christian 512 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: Watson's gonna be back. 513 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 514 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't give you a guess as far as which 515 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: game he's going to be active for. 516 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: The first time for Green Bay. 517 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this, this guy is going to 518 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: have an important, key, pivotal role to play for the 519 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers in twenty twenty five. The Jaden Reid thing, 520 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: it muddles the water a little bit because this is 521 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: a guy that is is their leading receiver the past 522 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: two seasons. As Matt Lafor said, he is the spark 523 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: plug of this offense. But at the same time, this 524 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: is not Randall Cobb coming back from the collarbone in 525 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. They are not asking Christian Watson to get 526 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: out there and save them. They have so many receivers 527 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: that can turn to. They have so many running backs 528 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: that can turn to, and they have two tight ends 529 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: who both can be featured guys if they need to be. 530 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: They have the resources. 531 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: To get through this here until Watson is ready to 532 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: be on the field. 533 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: But boy golly, when he is seeing what Matthew Golden presents, 534 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: seeing the way that Dantavian Wicks has played so far 535 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: early on in the fact that Chucker Craft is in 536 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: the middle of this breakthrough, A dangerous offense becomes more 537 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: dangerous when number nine is on the field. 538 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: And I think we saw and this is actually something 539 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: we haven't really touched on yet, although we talked about 540 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: Matthew Golden so much throughout training camp and everything. Those 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: two plays against Washington, the one I mentioned on the 542 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: opening drive of the game, the ball was just under thrown. 543 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: Another one in the second quarter where you know, he 544 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: basically roasted the entire secondary, was behind everybody and Jordan 545 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: Love was not going to underthrow this one, but he 546 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: just barely overthrew it and Golden couldn't quite get to 547 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: it with a with a full extension dive down deep 548 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. My point is, it 549 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: just feels like the big breakout of Matthew Golden in 550 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: the regular season. You know, for him to put his 551 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: rookie stamp on his impact on this offense, it feels 552 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: like it's coming, doesn't it. 553 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: I saw all I needed to see from Matthew Golden 554 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: on his catch from Malik Willis against Seattle thirty nine yards. 555 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: As Malik even said, the pass was not thrown perfectly. 556 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: It was thrown to the inside rather than keeping it outside. 557 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden had to make a correction while operating at 558 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: that speed to come back to that ball and to 559 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: make a play on it. My point being when I 560 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: say that is there were very close to a pass 561 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 2: not needing to be perfect for Matthew Golden to be 562 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: able to make a big play. And ultimately, that's what 563 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: the best receivers of the National Football League do, not 564 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: the guys that just have a thousand yards or a 565 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: handful of touchdowns. The guys that can take this game over. 566 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden has those traits. I'm sure Jordan Love is 567 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, biting himself a little bit for 568 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: not having that ball down the scene maybe exactly where 569 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: he needed to be. Obviously, the fourth down play as well, 570 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: but there is going to come a time where Matthew 571 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: Golden and his internial calculus there is going. 572 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: To be able to make those plays right. 573 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be a lot sooner 574 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: than what you would think for him being a rookie. 575 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. Well, we do need to 576 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: pay some bills around here, so we will hear right 577 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: now from our sponsors. Serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard 578 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 579 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: true football fanatics need. 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Learn more about 589 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: all the wonders of Wisconsin at Travel Wisconsin dot Com 590 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: slash Wonders. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted West. Before we go, 591 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: a quick look at where things stand in the NFC 592 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: North after two weeks. It's pretty simple. Packers are two 593 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: and zero. The Lions and the Vikings are both one 594 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: and one. The Chicago Bears are zero and two, the 595 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Lions one on one and the Vikings one on one, 596 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: though both look and feel a heck of a lot different. 597 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: Detroit just dismantled Chicago, bouncing back from the loss at 598 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: lambeau Field, putting up fifty plus, looking like the Detroit 599 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: Lions of the last of the last couple of years Minnesota. 600 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: They escaped Chicago in Week one with that victory on 601 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: Monday Night football, they did not look ready for prime 602 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: time in Week two against the Atlanta Falcons, only six 603 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: points on the board. The Falcons, we're in control of 604 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: that game and post a multi score victory there, and 605 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: now the Vikings are going to be without there. I 606 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: was about to say rookiees not a rookie, but their 607 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: new starting quarterback JJ McCarthy for what sounds like multiple 608 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: weeks with an ankle injury. He got rolled up on 609 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: on a hip drop ish type of tackle on a 610 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: scramble play on Sunday night against Atlanta. So there's a 611 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of consternation, I 612 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: guess you'd say at the bottom of the division right 613 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: now with Minnesota and Chicago, whereas Green Bay and Detroit 614 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: feeling like that, you know, they're in a pretty good spot. 615 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: And Detroit certainly regrets using at lambell Field, but they're 616 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: not sweating. They're not sweating that one loss. 617 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: No, let me power through the vikings here very quickly, 618 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: because I'd like to talk about the Detroit Chicago game more. 619 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's been in this situation before. Yep, he's been 620 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: in a situation where a quarterback has come in in 621 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: the eleventh hour and had to make him a starter 622 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: and win football game. 623 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: So I have no concern about that. 624 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: I think the bigger thing for them is going to 625 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: be you lose JJ McCarthy, you lose Aaron Jones. They're 626 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: already going through a bit of a transition with their 627 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: backfield to begin with, Can you do you have the 628 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 2: offensive firepower that you're gonna need with maybe a defense 629 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: that isn't gonna be as dominant as last season. That's 630 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: gonna be the test here the next couple weeks if 631 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: McCarthy's down for a minute, with Carson Wentz taken over 632 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: at that spot. The Detroit game was incredible to watch, 633 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: and I watched most of it. Jared Goff twenty three 634 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: of twenty eight, three hundred and thirty four passing yards, 635 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: five touchdowns at one to fifty six passer rating. Gibbson 636 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Montgomery both had a rushing touchdown one hundred and seventy 637 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: seven rushing yards altogether. The Detroit Lions are not going anywhere, 638 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: and when the Packers face them the next time, it 639 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: is going to be an slute battle, as Tucker Craft forecast. 640 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: And it'll be on National TV on Thanksgiving Thanksgiving at 641 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Ford Fields. 642 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: And the fact is that Detroit's a good team. So 643 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: there's nothing to take away from the Chicago Bears here. 644 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: But I raise this in Insider Inbox. There is so 645 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: much talk every off season about the Bears, and I 646 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: am so worn out by it at this point because 647 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: ultimately the only thing that matters the proving ground is 648 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: when the games start in September, and that is where 649 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: Chicago continues to come up short. It's great to talk 650 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: about taking over the NFC North, It's great to talk 651 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: about not giving it back. It's great to talk about 652 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: how good Caleb Williams is, and it's great to talk 653 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: about how every single move they make in the offseason 654 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: is going to bring them back to contender status. They're 655 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: ower and two, They're O and two again, and you 656 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: never know where the season is going to go. It 657 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: is just two games, But this is not the type 658 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: of start you're thinking about if you're Ben Jonson coming 659 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: in setting the tone that he set, Ryan Poles getting 660 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: a contract extension, and here they are once again. The 661 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions played them out of the building. Yeah, it 662 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: wasn't just that they put up fifty two points in 663 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: all this, it's a fact that it never even looked competitive, right, 664 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of soul searching that 665 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: the Bears have to do. 666 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to make of the Bears 667 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: right now. Obviously there's there's going to be a learning 668 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: curve in a process with Ben Johnson and his quarterback 669 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and all that. We know, we know that 670 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's a learning curve to that 671 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: and how that relationship develops, and a coach learning what 672 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: his quarterback does best and what he's most comfortable with 673 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. What I can't figure 674 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: out is is the first three quarters of the season, 675 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears defense gave up six points and had 676 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: to pick six and in the last five quarters they've 677 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: given up seventy plus points. What do you make I 678 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that. Because if because 679 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: as as Ben Johnson is trying to figure this out 680 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, if that defense on the other side 681 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: of the ball, that Dennis Allen is coordinating, if that 682 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: if that unit can't hold up, if they're just gonna 683 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: get steamrolled by a quality offense like Detroit, that I 684 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: don't know where the Bears go from here? Like you, 685 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: what do you have to look forward to at this point? 686 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's early, it's two weeks, it's a week 687 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: to week league. I think the Bears offense, with Johnson 688 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: and Williams, they're going to figure some things out. If 689 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm a Chicago Bears fan, what I'm more concerned about 690 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: than anything is what's going on on defense. 691 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: And guess who's coming to Soldier Field this week. I 692 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: mean the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott and that offense. 693 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: That is a high powered offense, and it looks like 694 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: they have some answers to their backfield now too. It's 695 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: this is a this is a as week three matchups go, 696 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: and I know they got the Raiders after that, but 697 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: as week three games go, this is a major, major 698 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: gut check. 699 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like for Chicago last thing before we go. 700 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: A bunch of two and O teams across the league 701 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: right now, the Packers being one of them. A lot 702 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: of people talking about the Packers obviously with the two 703 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: teams they've beaten. Who are the other two and O 704 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: teams that kind of jump out at you for me? 705 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: For me, so far, I've been impressed with the Philadelphia Eagles. 706 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: I've been impressed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and what 707 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has done in crunch time of the first 708 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: two games of the season, both of those on the road. Actually, 709 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: now that I think about it, him pulling out clutch 710 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: touchdown drives on the road. And you know, I've been 711 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: impressed with the Los Angeles Chargers at two and oh 712 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: as well. 713 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, in some ways, a lot of those 714 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: are expected, right. I mean, Harboss set the foundation last year, Herbert. 715 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: They're getting done what they need to get done against 716 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: these opponents. Philadelphia showed that there was no this team 717 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: right now. Where the Eagles are at are in a 718 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 2: different stratosphere than the Chiefs. Yeah, it wasn't that they 719 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: just caught them on a bad day at the super Bowl. 720 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: Now there's something they've built there that is going to 721 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: be the standard here that everyone else in the NFL 722 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: is chasing. 723 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 3: I take it the other way in. 724 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: Terms of the two and o's the fact that San 725 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: Francisco has had to work through this stuff that they've 726 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 2: worked through. Mac Jones was spectacular on Sunday. My hack 727 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: goes off to him, Kyle Shanahan for them being able 728 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: to keep that ship afloat Arizona looks really explosive. Marvin 729 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: Harrison is realizing some of his potential. But the Indianapolis 730 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: Colts haven't punted yet. 731 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: And for everybody. 732 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: Leaving that team to die to be in a position 733 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: where they've played the way they've played and beaten the 734 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: teams that they've had to be, it's very difficult to 735 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 2: win in this league. Mike ask the Giants. How difficult 736 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: it is to win in this league, and that what 737 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: happened against Dallas. So you give your cap and you 738 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: give your credit to the guys that can get it done. 739 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes you catch a big break along the way, right, 740 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean the Indianapolis Colts. The sixty yard field goal 741 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: is missed, but the Denver guys called for the leverage 742 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: penalty fifteen yards. The kicker gets the untimed down, another 743 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: crack at it from forty five, he puts it through, 744 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: and they knock off the Broncos. Sometimes those are the 745 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: kind of things that happen that can you know, you 746 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: don't know what that's going to start for a team 747 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: like the Indianapolis Colt. So we'll see. 748 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: What especially when everybody is counting them out from day one. 749 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones thing. I mean, just people were giving them 750 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: no chance. And I'd even throw myself into that category 751 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: to an extent. 752 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: And you win football games, you got to keep it going. 753 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: There's fifteen more of these things, ye, but it's a 754 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: lot easier to be at two and oh than be 755 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: at zero and two, Like you know, the Chicago Bears 756 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: currently are. 757 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, well with that, we'll call it a rap 758 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be sure to 759 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: continue following all of our coverage of the team on 760 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. The upcoming road trip to Cleveland this 761 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: week in Week three, and we will preview that game 762 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: on our next show. So for Wes, I am Mike, 763 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will see 764 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: you next time.