WEBVTT - Episode 5 - A Life Sentence 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:02.840 My name is Pedro Flores. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:08.000 I am giving this statement freely and voluntarily pursuing two 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.680 proper letters with the United States Attorney's Office for the 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.920 Eastern District of Wisconsin and the Northern District of Illinois. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.040 Although no promises have been made to me regarding my 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:26.120 cooperation or the sentence I will ultimately receive. I am 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.280 cooperating with the government and the hope of receiving a 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.400 reduced sentence in a federal case where I have been indicted. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.200 I'm federal narcotics chargers. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.800 Do you believe in the justice system after what he's 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:41.360 put you through? 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:47.000 Well, I remember the prosecutors telling me when we argue 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.080 certain things about our case, our chargers, and he said 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.040 to me, the law is not there to protect criminals, 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.960 is there to protect the innocent. So I'm going to 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.800 take that for the word, because I'm I was a criminal. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.600 So the law wasn't there to benefit me, was there 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.720 to go against me. So I have to respect that. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.680 You know, if I was on the opposite side of 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.479 the law, you know, if I was on the right 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:10.560 side of the law, maybe that. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.479 Law would protect me. And I hope it does, you. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.600 Know, But do I agree with every part of it. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.600 No, but you see people get twenty they kill twenty 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.720 people and they just let them out because they got 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:22.800 who they wanted, Yeah. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:23.160 What they wanted. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:25.360 Well, people, I'm gonna tell you there's a lot of 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.600 people are gonna think that our sentence was unfair. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:28.639 Mhm. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.240 And I hope that in us talking about this, and 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.600 they're gonna get a breag picture of see you letting 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.119 me say what what's fair or not? But I'll take 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.520 responsibility with do I believe in just a yes, because. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.280 I'm the one that put myself in that situation. If 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.280 I would never have done that, then I're gonna have 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:46.120 to deal with that. Right. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.760 Hey, it's and I'm Charlie Webster. This is ivanel Chapeau, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:07.520 the twins who brought down a Drugg Blood season two. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.240 You ever played that game telephone? 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.560 For five years, that's the only way Jay and Pete 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.000 were able to communicate with each other by sending messages 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.120 to their wives. So far, their time in prison had 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.000 been about cooperation, and they had no clue how much 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.440 longer they be in for. The twin sentencing was originally 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.520 put a hole until our chapel was caught. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.000 Now that el Chapot had been arrested. The brothers could 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.120 get back together. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.799 But it wouldn't last long. Pete and j would soon 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.360 learn their fate, but first they had to get to 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.320 the courthouse in Chicago. Sat in a hangar and shackled, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.400 Pete watched anxiously as a plane of approached, the plane 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.639 he hoped would have his brother on board. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.680 I can see the plane touching the private plane, and 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.880 you know, it's sticky forever, like the land to spin around. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.800 But I remember, like they pull up and I'm sitting 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.760 in the in the in the truck stuff. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.520 I see him, you know, pull the doors open. When 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.320 they tell me come on, I rushed out. I remember, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.800 I'm just looking down trying to peek over the corner. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.960 I just I just see it's a great sweats and shoes, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.880 you know, And you know my brother was sitting there. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.800 What did that feel like? That was beautiful feeling it. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.280 You know that we got emotional right right soon we've 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.080 seen the showy start crank. And did you do when 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:48.800 you saw each other? 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.880 Well, we couldn't, you know, I was I was seeing 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.040 that we're tackle, so we couldn't do much. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.440 So we just robed our head together, our big. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:03.080 Head together, and and I like, bro, like after I 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.400 was like fans in here, like, bro, why did you 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:06.000 look like that? 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.320 Right away? I went to I've been in his shoe 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.600 and I know you don't think I get air cut 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.280 like whatever. And it didn't work out that way. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.920 And you just, you know, like even the marshals that 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.640 which travel was, they're just they'll stay quiet for us. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.279 I can just stare at him like what was that reaction? 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:28.320 You know, be like. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.560 And then he sat in front of me and we 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:42.200 just tried to We forgot about everyone else in the 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.880 little three four hours. I felt like, you know, different things, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.520 and he's sitting in front of me, and. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.200 And then you know, I'm a nervous record of it. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.400 I'm I'm going to get sentenced, and I'm looking at 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.280 my brother and I'm kind of why I'm staring at 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:01.320 because he has this different He's day back, he's standing back, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:01.920 and he's like. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.719 You're hungry, bro, you know, give him something me Like 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:06.880 it was because I. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:09.839 Did. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.200 Did you feel different to each other because you've not 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.720 seen each other for that long and also you're been 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.400 through so much in that period of time. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.400 I'm gonna say it. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.080 I noticed like, to me, he was too timid, he 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.040 was too like I feel like he was letting them 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.400 take a part of him. And it was in me 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:30.920 that I was not gonna let that happen. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.920 So when I see my brother, he has this as 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.280 I'm coming in and he's like, hey, give him something, man, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.160 he's gilt. What do you want to I'm like, day, bro, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.279 this is not your jet. These are us marshalls. Like 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.680 they give two ships. What you said? 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.040 I'm just like, no, no, they didn't. And I remember 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.120 landing and I got sick. Remember you guys. Take you 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.640 guys when we were taking out, when you started feeling better, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.920 I thought he looked hungry. So the marshals are there. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.880 It looks like he needed food. So hey, excuse me, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.600 bring me that food. Like you know they have fruit tree, it's. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.159 A private jet mart. Bring them to food. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.359 And then and what did they do? What do you 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.760 want here? Here's your stuff? I get them the fruit, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.440 get them to drink, you know, like, hey, do you 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.800 want anything? Any girls like yeah, And I'm looking like 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.400 Jane disonergr jet and like, don't worry, you're good. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:29.360 I'm gonna make sure you're good. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.279 It might seem uncommon for prisoners to be transported on 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.280 private jets, complete with fresh fruit and drinks. Even we 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.599 were surprised to find out that it's actually a thriving business. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.960 On average, there's over six hundred flights a day shuttling 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.120 prisoners around the US. That's nearly the same amount of 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:53.120 flights that take off every day from Los Angeles International Airport. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.559 It's not quite as looks as you would think, though. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.120 The prisoners still have to be shackled on the plane. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.680 Jay was concerned about Pete. He looked like a shell 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:10.880 of himself, timid, drastically underweight and broken. Eventually, after a 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.920 nearly four hour flight, the twins were taken to a 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:19.280 safe house in Chicago, expecting to be sentenced the next day. Instead, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.800 they ended up living at the safe house for months, 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.200 continuing to cooperate on the El Chapo case, going over 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:32.080 the same things with the government again and again and again. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.920 So we're like, well, at least we're going to be 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.400 somewhere a little more comfortable for tonight, tomorrow or whatever. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:45.680 Right, and we get to the seafehouse in Chicago. It's 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:46.640 a secret location. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.000 It's amazing where it's at you'd be surprised you put 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.080 it somewhere like that can. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.239 Yeah, we can't discuss. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.040 I wouldn't want to discussed. It's like a bunker, so 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.520 they take those backs. We were there for months. There's 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.239 no windows or nothing, but it's a big, old metal, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.920 heavy door, and it's a room that looks someone like 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.880 a cheap It looks exactly like a holiday and back 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.600 in the day, exactly what everything. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.000 On holidays would have the same lamp, same set, no bathroom. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.840 Door, no bath flows doors, and no bunch of cameras inside, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.880 same televisions to old picks and old television. Same everybody 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.920 thinking that we're gonna, you know, they're gonna let us 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.199 be together, Like we're on the. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:37.840 Jet together there when we get today separated. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.040 And I remember at you know, asking the martian charge 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.520 like can we be together? 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.079 No, you can't be together. I'm like, I just got 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.920 off the plane with him. Were just drove over together, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:51.760 Like what's the big deal? 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:51.960 Now? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.280 What did that feel like? I felt again that helplessness 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.920 of like thinking like he's my brother, we're on the 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.959 same case. We're gonna be charged to we got a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.320 charge to get to the other. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.199 Benefits that we had earlier on the simple things that 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.079 we took from Ghanda. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.880 We took ends, they took it from us. So I remember, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.400 just remember night. We right away, we didn't even care 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.840 to eat. We just sat. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.680 We yelled at each other like it were in the 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.440 hole from you know, from the crack of the door. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.880 Like we sat on the floor and he sent one 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.040 you know, his next door to me. So we just 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:28.840 yelled at each other. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.079 Despite being brought together to be sentenced, the brothers were 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.480 still forced apart at every moment, separated into their own rooms. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.960 The only way they could talk to each other was 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.679 to lie on the floor and shout through the crack 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.240 at the bottom of the heavy metal doors. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:57.240 And the Martians come check on you ployment, even though 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.880 they had cameras, you guys go, okay, hear the keys. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:06.199 That's kind of you. Hear keys, you know. And we 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.800 had regular conversations. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.000 We were laughing, just different conversations about being nervous. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.840 And then they come get us, come on, you guys 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.560 have a visit, and we walk into like a little 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.360 meeting room like the same thing, like like the rooms 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.400 that they make usweet. It's like two rooms which just 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.560 take the bed out of one and it's like they 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:27.080 got so fun and we come in. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.760 There's just the coverment, the agents and prosecutors, and we're like, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.439 what's going on? Like we're gonna go over some stuff. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.360 I mean, this cooperation stuff was heavy. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.200 It was work. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.240 If I got paid by the hour, I had to 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.200 get some pretty good checks, and I felt like I 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:45.720 was upset. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.240 To be honest, I was like, I'm done. I'm done 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.720 with this help me ship. I just want to get sentenced. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.839 I'm over it. Dude, you gotta do I give you. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:58.960 I'm giving you my soul. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:04.520 Practically, to me, I felt like I was looking at 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.160 someone who was defeating, who was giving up. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.760 That's what I looked at him. So I'm like, come on, like, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.559 come on, be like be strong. I saw you being nervous, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.880 and I saw you being that because you were I 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:16.720 had intend you were. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.880 Confident enough, and I addressed that a couple of times 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.600 to I'm looking at that, I'm not confident. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.520 To me, it's a test. We're about to get sentenced 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:32.040 and they want help tomorrow they decide my future. What 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:39.920 do you need? I have a family at home. I 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:44.360 signed up for this. That's saying. So I was, you know, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.360 to me, I'm just still fighting to get home. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.920 I never stopped fighting, you know, if I were here 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:54.800 till the last day, I thought every day used. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.000 To training that my brother would call it a tantrums. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:57.760 I call it fighting. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.480 I think for me to see us be alike so much, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.440 even when it came to personality a little bit at times, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.760 like energy or like whatever we give out. And for him, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.800 I felt like I was going one way, he was 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.040 going the other. It was I think, trouble something for me, 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:17.720 and then if you could kind of tell like it 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.880 was trouble some for him to see me the opposite way, 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.000 I felt like more meekness set into me, a little 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.200 more humble, a little more like patient, and little more 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:34.760 like you know, maybe just I embraced the part that 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.560 I was like, you know, I'm just I'm. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:13:02.440 Yelling on Jack when you're the twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:08.280 after months of cooperating sensusing day finally arrived. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.520 I remember that morning I'm in the safe house night 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.800 channe out the news like I just channed the local 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.760 news in Chicago, and it's like that's the story. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.720 Al Chapo's biggest distributors, Pedro and Margarito Flores used stash 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.800 houses in the suburbs off Chicago. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.600 The Flores twins could be Chicago's biggest cocaine and heroin 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:31.760 traffickers ever. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:39.760 Chicago's infamous drug trafficking twins, Pedro Flores and his brother Margarito. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.960 They became the Cinelo Cartel's largest US distributors. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.520 To hit the drugs in some of New York's best neighborhoods. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.160 The twins, Pedro and Margarito Flores, have spent six years 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.960 cooperating with the fans. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:04.800 At person get it was the big deal bout me 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:11.240 getting sentenced. I also came to like like realize that 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.319 it wasn't gonna be a. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.160 Like easy. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.080 It was, you know, the sentence he was gonna you know, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.160 I'm looking with the media was saying like it changed 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.200 from us supposedly thinking we're doing something like good to 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:25.840 a change. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.000 That we were still going to be the really no 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.600 matter what. And I understood that. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.200 I was like, Okay, I just hope that the judge 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.640 understands this and seese my cooperation and understands the risk 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:45.880 we took and why we did this. I remember we're 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.760 in this hallway and it's like twelve marshals and my 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:56.480 brother side handkoff and he's behind me and the marshals 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.520 are there, and Peter took me like, yo, I'm nervous, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.400 like and my people don't be nervous, like click, this 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:02.760 is what. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:03.240 You're gonna say. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.400 And I'm like just trying to be the strong one right, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:10.120 Like I'm nervous too, but I'm not gonna show them. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.440 The marshals like, man, you guys said, you gotta just 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.480 stop already. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:21.200 You're making a big deal about it. I said, I'm 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:21.760 not like this. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.400 But that day, because I was worried about my brother, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.040 I was like, mind your fucking business. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.960 What is it to you. You're here to transport me. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.360 This is none of your fucking business. I said, you 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.520 take this job. You do this every day. Might not 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.360 be a big deal to you, but this is gonna change. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.240 This is our life. You're taking this. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.000 I was like, and I went on this rank and 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.880 I'm and they're like, yo, just come out and come 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:49.000 out here. And the marshall think that he's like, you're right, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.560 I apologize say for me. The heaviness of everything, we 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.880 come to feeling the way of it again, like you 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.040 know your your. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.040 Feet lies in the hands of someone else, like a 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.160 psychological torture, as. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.840 Probably going into that courtroom any thinking I was and 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.600 see a bunch of people that are gonna be staring 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.600 at me. I'm gonna have to admit, you know, be 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.240 sentien fell my wrongdoing. What's kind of heavy, you know, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.000 and talk of everything like those thoughts are going to 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:21.480 my mind. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:22.000 My family. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.480 I couldn't stop thinking of there, the kids, everyone, like 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:28.160 everything we've been through, you know, the unknown of the future, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:29.400 what's around the corner. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:34.000 You know, what did it feel like on that day. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:39.760 Like being kidnapped again, being like, you know, your life 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.600 open in the air, like anything could happen. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.800 That just could have decided whatever he wanted. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.920 Those feelings have been like figuring for my life again 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:55.280 were real And anyone who has you know, come face 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.000 to face for the judge in a federal courtroom could 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.320 understand what I'm saying to you know, come up to 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.760 that to the bench of the judge where he's sitting 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.200 up like he feels like he's ten feet you know, high, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:14.879 and the court room makes you feel so small. That 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.200 real thought that where it says the United States versus 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:26.199 you like, what chances does anyone have that fight the 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:32.359 United States government? You know, and you feel small, you 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.200 feel like vulnerable and weak. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.680 I feel like you're being brought out to the world 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.520 to see you. And that was a little like that 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:51.280 was not wreaking, like because my life had changed so much. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.840 I'm going in front of people actually again right that 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:02.240 I can to decide your life. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.679 When a prisoner is sentenced, there is a guideline for 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.320 how long they will spend in prison. The guideline is 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.520 based on something called an offense level, which is determined 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.800 by how serious the offenses. The maximum level is forty three, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.520 which would mean a life sentence. When the twins went 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.720 into their sentencing, they had an offense level of fifty nine. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.880 That sixteen levels above the supposed maximum. Their cooperation meant 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.399 levels could be taken off. It was described by government 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.000 prosecutors as the most significant in a drug trafficking and 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:43.119 money laundering context in the history of the district. In 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.240 the end, the government recommended a sentence of a minimum 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:52.480 ten years maximum sixteen. US District Chief Judge Reuben Costillo 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.639 sentenced each of the brothers to fourteen years in prison 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:01.080 plus five years supervised release. Thee said that were it 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.720 not for their cooperation, he would have sentenced them to life, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.560 but noted that they were already living with their own 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:08.400 life sentence. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.840 There is never a day in their lives where they 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.280 won't have to look over their shoulder, the judge said 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.560 in court this morning. There's never a time that they'll 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.960 turn the ignition switch on a car and not wonder 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:19.840 to themselves is it going to start or is it 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.439 going to blow up. That's its own form of life sentence, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.560 and that's the part of the extraordinary nature of this case. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.320 Judge Castillo said the twins operation devastated the walls of 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.919 Chicago and created a highway of drugs into the city. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.840 J and Pete's corporation led to criminal charges against the 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:43.760 three bosses of the Cineloa cartel, El Chapo El Mayo, 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:50.760 and Otturo Beltran Lava. In addition, there were fifty one 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.720 other people charged as part of their cooperation, including their friends, 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.000 people like Musico, who you might remember from the Strip 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.679 Club Night in season one. He was the person on 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.560 the other end of the phone organizing for the cartel 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.440 to save the Florest family's lives when they were caught 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:15.800 by the Mexican federales. Even Tommy was charged. Jay's best friend. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.160 He was the person who helped Jay get Pete back 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.800 when Pete was kidnapped by l Chapo and sat with 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:27.359 Jay that fateful night watching the John Gotti documentary that 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:33.479 first gave Jay the idea to cooperate. A total of 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.639 fifty four people had charges brought against them because of 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:42.840 the Flores twins. Judd Castillo said, it's never too late 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:43.600 to cooperate. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.680 I wanted to have like the best news and feel like, Okay, 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.240 I'm going to be home in a year and a half. 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:55.000 It didn't happen. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:21:01.760 Neil I was just halfway, had spent nearly seven years 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.640 in prison before being sentenced, and they now had another 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.920 seven years to serve. They were only halfway through. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.600 I was disappointed. I mean I was disappointed. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.919 We're leave in some ways because I felt like I 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.800 was expecting like a lifetime supervision or something that would 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.080 have been hard. You know, it's something hard to live with. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.000 I was given five years supervision. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:34.919 But again it wasn't for myself. It's just for my family, 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:36.080 my wife, my kids. 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.480 You know, we're just like halfway through at that point, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.080 not just six years, you know of not just your 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:51.320 six years. It was six years of craziness. To be like, okay, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:57.880 we're halfway felt hard, you know, like starting all over. 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.600 After the spoke to you and gave you your sentencing, 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:11.359 and he he said, words to the effective you know, 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.880 you're always gonna have to look over your shoulder. 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:19.399 What did that feel like? What was it like for you? 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.720 It's something already new, right, But when he said, I 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:25.920 think it was more powerful. 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.920 Right. 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.199 Of course, it just feels bad because I know my 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:36.160 situation and I'm going to hear those words, he stated 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.080 over and over again, and I'm probably going to continue 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:47.960 to hear them. And I understood, like early on in 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:53.720 the situation, I put myself in ampuire me for like, 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:59.240 I'm always going to be in prison by the fact 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:06.520 of everything. And that's for in prison, for the fact 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:12.760 that I cooperated right for me, regardless if I was 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.960 getting benefits or not, it was for the good I 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:15.760 thought I was doing. 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:17.800 You know. So it's two. 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:22.960 Different imprisonments, right, or two different life sentences in different ways. 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.439 It was with them it would have been death, and 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.359 here it was like a person and the life senses 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.400 of worries and you know, worry about threats and your 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:40.000 safety and your family safety. Even after all those years 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.359 of growing and thinking about my case and think about 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.359 everytiunity that just never going to say well with me 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:50.000 that I put my family in danger. And sometimes I 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.879 would think, like the fact that my wife and the 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.240 rest of my family would be like. 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:57.480 It's worth it, Like it kind of. 0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:00.399 Showed to me like how much they love me, and 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:04.000 i'mous say wanted more that they were like, you know, 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.479