1 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the final preseason edition of jag Zam. I'm 2 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: Kannanni Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier with me here today 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: is we talk about that final preseason game as we 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: get ready for final roster cutdowns tomorrow. We'll kick off 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: big things with three and zero for the preseason. The 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Daguars undefeated. They now won six preseason games in a row. 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Isn't that big of a deal, but they haven't done 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: it since nineteen ninety six, and they had lost ten 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: of their last eleven, So Brian and no, preseason doesn't 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: mean a lot, but it is nice to see the 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: team going out there and winning when they're playing a game. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we talk about culture all the time 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: you hear from coaches and players. This is an example 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: of culture right, doing the right thing the right way, 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: executing even a limited game plan, which is all they 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: have in the preseason anyway, and the coaching staff talked 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: about grasping the concepts and then executing on them, and 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: they did. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: And I'm struggling to think of a moment in the. 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: Preseason where they didn't look like a team that's capable 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: of winning in the regular season. Called me when they're 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: three and zero in the regular season, obviously it means 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: that much more. But it wasn't that long ago that 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: this was a franchise. This was a team that didn't. 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: Seem to do a lot right in the month of August, 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 4: So I'll take it. 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. I asked Doug off the podium on Friday if 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 5: he cared about being six and oh the last two preseasons, 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 5: and he said no. And I waited for more and 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 5: he said, no, I do not, And I was glad 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: he didn't get more angry because it was kind of 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: a silly question, but I knew it needed to be 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: asked at some point because you're six and oh. It 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: means nothing except that you're functioning on all levels better 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: than the team you're playing is functioning at all levels. 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 6: So it's not a bad thing. 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean anything, but I think it's better than 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: the alternative is to look bad. 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: And I think it reinforces what they said in the 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: course of the lead up to camp and then during camp, 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: John and that is that they were all focused on 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: the way that last season ended. 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: They were determined not to see things. 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Go you know, along those lines where they weren't playing 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: very well, so to me, this was just validation of 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: some of the things they were saying. Meaningless as it 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: may be, it at least gives you some indicators, some 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: clues that you can use to take a look at 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 3: what this team could be in the regular season. 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not a big deal, but definitely better than 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the opposite. Second big thing today going to be the 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: starting line. We saw that starting offensive five on the 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: offensive line for the first time this season playing together, 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: and they played together for a couple of drives with 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: some success of Peterson talked after the game about what 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: he saw. 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 7: I thought it was good, you know. I think there's 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 7: some still some things we can improve on and continue 59 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 7: to work. But I thought overall, they did a nice job, 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 7: you know, in Atlanta through through some pressures at us 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 7: that you know, you know, we were un blocked, which 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 7: you know, which is which is gonna happen one extra 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 7: and Trevor did a nice job, you know, getting the 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 7: ball out of his hand. But overall I thought they 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 7: played well. 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: John, We're not gonna make too much of it, but 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: we did see some good things. 68 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 8: Trevor getting the ball out quickly. 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: They stuck with the run even when things weren't necessarily 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: going their way, so things are looking up, I guess 71 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: trending towards the regular season. 72 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,279 Speaker 5: I thought Trevor looked good in uh both of his 74 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 5: his starts, the really good the other night. All you 75 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: can do in pre season is look as it is, 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: is play who you're playing. And that they led two 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: touchdown drives. He had a few nice passes on each one. 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: He had a really nice pass start off the game 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: to uh Brian Thomas Jr. If he hadn't looked good, 80 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: everybody would be criticizing him for it, so praise him. 81 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: Within that uh Brian, I had the idea that maybe 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: if if the Falcons had played a few more people 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: or seemed like they were being competitive, they might have 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: played the starters a little more. I got the idea 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: that Doug looked at it and went, well, we nad fine, 86 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: get him out. 87 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: We don't even want to be in a hero right 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: the linebacker, the reserve linebacker that came screaming through and 89 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: hit him below the knees. At that moment, I'm like, hey, 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: it's not for driver to have a seat. There's no 91 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: reason to keep him playing. I'll say this last Thursday, 92 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: before we went to Atlanta, talked to Trevor in our 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: TV production meeting, and he talked extensively about having confidence 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: in each one of those guys individually, and even though 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: he hadn't seen them together as a unit yet, he 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: was pretty confident in what the offensive line could be. 97 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: He played that way, and as Jehn just mentioned, you 98 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: didn't see their front line guys, so of course he's 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: going to be confident what they can do. 100 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: But it was nice to see. 101 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: Because would you blame him if he wasn't right, if 102 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 3: it based on the way that the end of last 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: season went. Would you have blamed him if he might 104 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: have been just a little bit curious right, shaky on 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: the offensive group and wanting to get them together. He 106 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: said he had confidence. He played like they had confidence. 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: That's good. Here comes the real stuff. 108 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Cutdowns are going to be tomorrow before four pm. 109 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, no major injuries, so that makes things 110 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: a little more difficult, but good that the team is 111 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: healthy as we get to cut down day. That's our 112 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: final big thing today, Brian. We talked a lot about 113 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: this last week. We'll go over specific bubble players a 114 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: little later on in the show, but did anything significantly 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: change for. 116 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 8: You since the game? 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: No, No, I didn't see anything. I mean, Elijah Cooks 118 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: is a bubble guy. He's different than the other wide receivers. 119 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: He's six foot five, he's got longer arms. 120 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a jump, go, get the ball guy, 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: which is different than all the other receivers. He does 122 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: something distinctly different. Well, he made his case with that 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: catch in the end zone that was contested with a 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: cornerback hanging all over him. So perhaps he's a guy 125 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: who squeezed his way on. 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: He's helped them in special teams. They know who he is. 127 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: It's not like the one play changes everything. We'll have 128 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: to wait and see. 129 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a guy to watch. Not really here either. 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: Cole Van Lannon on the offensive line is a guy 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 5: keep nine or ten. Javon Foster probably gonna play this year, 132 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 5: but you got to protect him. There's some decisions like that. 133 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 5: But look, realistically, if we're talking about the last three 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: or four guys in the roster, we are talking about 135 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: guys who are probably gonna be up and down from 136 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: the practice squad a little bit and fairly interchangeable parts. 137 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: So I didn't really see anything that stood out on Friday. 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 8: All right, that's it for our big things. 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll go over some of 140 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: those highlights from the final preseason game of the year. 141 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Register your furry friend for the Jaguars Official Four Legged 142 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Fan Club for pets presented by Foreberbut's Animal Hospital. 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We'll 152 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: start out with that first drive we saw out of them, 153 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: because there was some good things. 154 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 8: The team stuck to the run throughout the. 155 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: First well throughout the entire game because they're trying to 156 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: run the clock at the end there. But seeing ETN 157 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: and Tank both get repetitive you know carries. We saw 158 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Tank didn't fall through and didn't get through on third 159 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and one, but got it right back on fourth and one, 160 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: and obviously Etn also being a part of the passing 161 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: game has been good. And then Brian Thomas Junior has 162 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: just been flashing every time he gets the Lall. 163 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not gonna flash, it just is at this. 164 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: Point, he is so smooth for a guy who's six 165 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: foot three. 166 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there's nothing that doesn't look natural 167 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: to him running across the field, running down the field. 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: I was not the. 169 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Biggest go draft a wide receiver guy, but looking at 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: him and what he's done, he's changed my mind. 171 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a difference maker. 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 8: John here too. 173 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of impressive touchdown passes. 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 5: And again, I don't know if it translates when you're 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: playing number one defensive backs or not. 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 6: It seems like there's some timing, some confidence there. Brian 177 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: Thomas Junior. 178 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: Again, all pre season, every day you kept seeing him 179 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: and I'm not sure how you quantify it, but you 180 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: kept seeing him every day. You feel like he's getting 181 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: it a little more. He's growing a little more, he's 182 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: improving a little more to where I have no idea 183 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: if it's gonna be a thousand yards, it's gonna be 184 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: seven hundred yards. But for a rookie like him in 185 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: this offense, what you need is for him to matter statistically. 186 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 5: I don't care, but you get the idea that there's 187 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: gonna be some plays this year that they need that 188 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: he matters on. And as a rookie first round pick 189 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: that hasn't always happened, I think it's gonna be significant. 190 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: You covered a receiver in Indianapolis, Reggie who is Hall 191 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: of Fame caliber receiver. What did you expect from him 192 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: as a rookie. I mean, he was a guy that 193 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: came in as a top draft pick. 194 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 6: Don't think expected They didn't get it. I mean he. 195 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 5: Missed a lot of the games that year, but even 196 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: when he didn't, he wasn't a Pro Bowl level guy 197 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: until his fourth year. 198 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: So it's well third you could tell. 199 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 5: But he's one reason why I always expect very little 200 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: out of rookies because I've seen guys come on and develop. 201 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 5: It's just not the same as when they're in their 202 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: second year. But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy 203 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: who is going to defy that a little bit. 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna matter a lot to him. 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: It's the first utility for me, it's really impressive so far. 206 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Evan Ingram. He's obviously 207 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: had the career year last year, fourth in the league 208 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: and receptions, let all tight ends for receptions, and you know, 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: he said he's focused now on touchdowns and he got 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: two of them in the preseason year. 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: One hundred and fourteen catchers, the second most in single 212 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: season by a tight end, and he had nine hundred 213 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: and sixty four. 214 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: Yards, so go, oh, it'd be a thousand yard receiver. 215 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: But he only had four touchdowns, which seems crazy to 216 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: me because he's such an important target for Trevor and 217 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: such a difficult matchup for linebackers or for safeties. I 218 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: would think that this should be a year he'd be 219 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: had ten touchdowns. 220 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. 221 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: I hope for Evan's sake that this plays out different 222 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: than what I'm going to say. 223 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 6: They hope that. 224 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: He doesn't catch one hundred and fourteen this year. He 225 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: caught one hundred and fourteen last year. He stepped up 226 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 5: and he was their offense in the last four or 227 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 5: five games after Christian went down. They don't need to 228 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 5: have it going through him to that degree this year. 229 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 5: What it would be great for him is if the 230 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: yards per attempt or the yards per catch went up slightly. 231 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: And as Brian said, he could have a better year 232 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 5: catching eighty and nine touchdowns exactly what I was then, 233 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 5: one hundred and fourteen and four touchdowns. 234 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 6: I think he would tell you that too. 235 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: Look, once Christian went out last year, I don't think 236 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: Trevor trusted very much except for Evan. To me, the 237 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: significant thing about Trevor this year, I think it's back 238 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 5: to twenty twenty two when Bucky Brooks used to talk 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 5: about how it felt organic, how it felt like when 240 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 5: Trevor dropped back, it didn't matter where the ball was going. 241 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 5: I think now you've got Christian, you've got Gabe Day, 242 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: you have four or five guys. I don't think Trevor 243 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: cares at the snap where the ball goes. And as 244 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: much as this can be true of receivers, I'm not 245 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: sure they carry it. 246 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: Eighty ony ten would be an incredible season for him. 247 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 8: I think we'd all be happy with that for sure. 248 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 8: Let's talk a little bit about the defense. 249 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: We saw the starting defense in this game for most 250 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: of the first half. I think that maybe the last play, 251 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: so from what we see from Nielsen so far. We 252 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: obviously saw that track sacked from Trayvon some pressure as well. 253 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: They were getting as they should meeting winning their matchups. 254 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: What are we going to see it as the defense 255 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: come regular season or the same? 256 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is should up to me was just 257 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: how quickly Nielsen started moving guys getting out of the 258 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: lineup right. I mean it was like almost a hockey right, 259 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: here come four, here come four, Here come two. He's 260 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: got so many different body styles and different types of players. 261 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: I think he's going to get clever. 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: He's got a look at that by Devon Hamilton, right, 263 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: I mean that's a big man who's chasing that quarterback down. 264 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be able to go into 265 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: his lab and create mismatches to create leverage on an 266 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: offensive line. 267 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm fine with the lab. 268 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: I want forty four and tested because I think Trayvon 269 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: has a feel. When Tomlin called him a wrecking ball 270 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: last year, Mike Tomlin, that really it resonated with me 271 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 5: because that's how he plays. It's not necessarily that he's 272 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: going to have these just picture book past rush moves. 273 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: I think he has enough pass rush moves to be 274 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: a dominant force because he is such a physically dominant 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 5: human being. 276 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 6: I get that. 277 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: It was third teamers, and I'm not saying, but you 278 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: look at Trayvon and he just has continued to get 279 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 5: better and better and he's so physically gifted, dominant. Whatever 280 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: experiment all you want, but let's make sure him in 281 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: forty one. 282 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 6: Are on the field. 283 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's keep them out there. I think that's fair. 284 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 5: And fifty two, I mean, I keep saying to me, 285 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: this defense, I get there, Ryan Ielson's a big story. 286 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: They're playing fast, that's all good. 287 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: Armstead, Hamilton, Trayvon Walker and Josh heinz Allen. If those 288 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: guys are healthy, it makes me feel like they can 289 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 5: be a dominant defensive line. I don't know if it's 290 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: the best in franchise history, because there's been a lot. 291 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: There's been some good defensive lineman around. 292 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 5: Here that forsome quietly because of Hamilton coming back and 293 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: Armstead adding, and it could be pretty good. 294 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 295 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: You know, ninety nine you had Gary Walker in the 296 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: middle with ten sacks and you had Bryce Pop and 297 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: Tony Brackens on the outside. 298 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: This could challenge that. 299 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a quietly put together a pretty good 300 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 5: group there, and I think they're the key to this 301 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 5: defense being what they think it can be. 302 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 8: One last time that we're gonna get t too. 303 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Mac Jones touchdown throw to Elijah Cooks, who talked about 304 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: Cooks a little bit off the. 305 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 8: Top, made that catch, got that touchdown, which is what 306 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 8: they wanted to do with open the end zone and 307 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 8: get the ball. 308 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: But I'm at a point where is it hurting them 309 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: now because now people are seeing it on film and he. 310 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 8: Might get picked up somewhere else if he doesn't make 311 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 8: the roster, or is it solidified a spot on a roster. 312 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think Elijah Cooks does one thing. 313 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: I think he does it very well. He goes up 314 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: and he gets the ball. How many times have you 315 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: seen him drop a ball that he could. 316 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: Catch and run with. It's just dart. He's I don't 317 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: mean to slight it. 318 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: He's a professional football player, but he doesn't have a 319 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: varied body of work. 320 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: I think you get him to practice squad. 321 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be surprised if that's not the route they 322 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: take again. I think the story here is not as 323 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: much the guy's playing around Mac Jones, but the fact 324 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 5: that mac Jones. 325 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 6: When he's in the game. 326 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 5: You feel like there's an NFL quarterback in the game, 327 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: and obviously there are NFL quarterbacks, they wouldn't be there. 328 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: But he calms things down, he distributes to the right place. 329 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: If something happens to Trevor, there is going to be 330 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: a high confidence level when they see mac Jones running 331 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: onto the field, and that's ninety percent of being a 332 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: backup quarterback. Did the guys around you believing and I 333 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: think they're going to both of. 334 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Them being very smart with the football in this preseason, 335 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: haven't seen interceptions from them, so that's been great as well. 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 8: Love to see clean football. Say what's here on jag xam. 337 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll give you our hot 338 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: takes as we head into the regular season. He's the 339 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: freight loves the freight magellon Transport voted the Cools office 340 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: space in Jacksonville. You can apply a line at www 341 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: dot McGill and lunches six dot. 342 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 9: Com where me and Evans chemistry is right now. 343 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: I feel great about it. 344 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 9: We're on the same page as much or more than ever. 345 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 9: He's just the guy that works really hard and communicates 346 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 9: and wants to get better, and you know, we're just 347 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 9: we see things very similarly, and it's cool to see 348 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 9: it pay off the guy that works that hard, it's 349 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 9: cool to see him to pay off for him. 350 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for all. 351 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 9: I think we've expanded his role and he's like, as 352 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 9: you guys have seen, he's doing more. Yeah, so it's 353 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 9: just gonna help us. So it's cool to see deferments TYRL. 354 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence postgame talking about that connection he has with Evan Ingram. 355 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 8: Things all looking good too. 356 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Touchdowns in that preseason matchup, and now we're looking ahead 357 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: to the regular season. So we've got a couple of 358 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: hot takes for you. Brian, Where are you going with yours? 359 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: I think this is the best roster of the Jaguars 360 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: have fielded since nineteen ninety nine, which is the best 361 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: single season record the Jaguars ever had fourteen to two 362 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: when they hosted the AFC title game. So I'm saying 363 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: they're better than the seven team. I'm saying they're better 364 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: than the seventeen team. And they're better because they have 365 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: a better quarterback than in either of those seasons. 366 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: Now, oh, seven, you had Fred. 367 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: Taylor and Maurice Jones drew right, but in every other 368 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: way you're better. I think you're better up front on 369 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: both lines. I think you're better. You don't have Rasheen Mappis, 370 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: but I think Tyson Campbell is a guy who is 371 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: comparable to Rashid doesn't have the takeaways. I just think 372 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: that this team is better than O seven in that sense. 373 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: I think they're more varied. They've got better pass rushers. 374 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: You don't have Stroud and Henderson, and Stroud was gone 375 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: by the time we got to November, so it was 376 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: just Henderson. 377 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: But I'll give the edge to this team. And then 378 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: in seventeen. 379 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: You don't have a Jalen Ramsey on defense, but I 380 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: think you match up with your outside guys. I mean, 381 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: you've got the best pass single season pass rusher in 382 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: your franchise's history, and John just talked about what Trayvon 383 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: gives you. And of course you're better at quarterback, and 384 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: I'll take etn and big speed. 385 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm. 386 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: Projecting a little because that was one year that Leonard 387 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Fournette was really, really good. But I think you're better 388 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: at receiver. I think you're better in a whole lot 389 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: of places. So I think this is the best roster 390 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: on paper since nineteen ninety nine. 391 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be very interesting to see if this front 392 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 5: that we praised earlier can be as good as at 393 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: seventeen front. I mean it, Claius and Dante, it broke 394 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: up so fast that it was almost like watching the 395 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 5: meteor across the sky. 396 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: And get Marcel Darius in the middle. But I mean, 397 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 3: I think Devon Hamilton health abruptive. 398 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: That's sort of the as the plateau to get to. 399 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 6: I think this team can do it. 400 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 5: And again, to me, that and Trevor Lawrence being better 401 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: in big situations is the key to the whole season. 402 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 5: My hot take is that the depth is real, and 403 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 5: that's not that hot a take. 404 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 6: We've seen it all pre season. 405 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: But it takes time when you're building something, which Doug 406 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: and Trent started building this in twenty twenty two, It 407 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 5: takes time to get depth. It takes time to get 408 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: the right guys in positions. But to me, this team 409 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: is the deepest that I've seen around here, maybe since 410 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: I got back in twenty eleven. I mean it, when 411 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 5: you talk about the corners, you can get down to 412 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 5: Mac Jones is obvious depth. You feel like any receiver 413 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 5: you put in the game. 414 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 6: Can be productive. I don't know if you've felt that 415 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 6: way all the time in the past. 416 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 5: So not just because they've three you o the past 417 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: two preseasons, but that's a little indicator. But it just 418 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: feels even linebacker, right, if a linebacker gets hurt this year, 419 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 5: you're not panicking. When Chad Mooman goes in, you feel like, okay, 420 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 5: well he can get you through. So there's not that 421 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 5: many spots where one injury is hold your breath, except 422 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 5: the obvious, which is Josh Allen and and not Tario Lawrence. 423 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 6: They're a franchise guys. 424 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: You know. 425 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: The story of the season I think is going to 426 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: play out because there will be guys from that twenty 427 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: twenty three draft class, that big draft class that we've 428 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: chronicled the story ull through camp, we'll have to go 429 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: in and play. And it feels as if the coaching 430 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: staff has these guys, especially some of those defensive guys 431 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: like Ben Treump ready to play. 432 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: You mentioned Trent and Doug. That's it. 433 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: It's drafting and developing, and I think they've done a 434 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: really good job and at the end of this year, 435 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 3: we're going to look back at that twenty twenty three 436 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: draft class and say it's a really important draft class 437 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: in franchise history. 438 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: Would it surprise you at all, either of you if 439 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 5: at the end of the season in Week seven team 440 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: of Intro Miller, Tank Bigsby, and Parker Washington have had 441 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 5: big roles for three or four games of the season, 442 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 5: that is pretty significantly different. 443 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 6: Than what we were talking about last summer. 444 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: Kind of think Breton Strange and Tyler Lacy are gonna 445 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: have moments this season too. 446 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Telling a bounce. Now, it's just time to win for 447 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: my hot tache. I'm gonna focus a little bit on 448 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: the offense over the defense. I think the offense is 449 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna come together first. It's not a slight on the defense. 450 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: It's just time for this offense. Trevor Lawrence has been 451 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: here for a while. He now has all the weapons 452 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: around him, has a starting a line that is healthy. 453 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: So if this team is gonna be successful this year, 454 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: they cannot do what they did last year, which is 455 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: start out cold and try to figure things out on 456 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: the fly. 457 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 8: They need to come. 458 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: Out and score early and often and get that rhythm going. 459 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: Get that, you know, get the rookie involved. In Brian 460 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: Thomas Junior his talents and get everything rolling so that 461 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: way when things get a little tougher middle of the year, 462 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: they have a late buy all that stuff. Things are 463 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: in motion and then when the defense can come around 464 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: and back it up. 465 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, you were in the in the room last Thursday 466 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: when we talked to Trevor. That is clearly his intent. 467 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: That is clearly what he is focused on and motivated on. 468 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: He's an impressive guy, always has been since the day 469 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: he showed up, but there's just something different about him 470 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: in person this year. He's still pissed off about the 471 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: way last season ended. And for a guy who is 472 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: as laid back as he tends to come off as 473 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: in private, he sure doesn't seem that way. 474 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: To make well, there's got to be a feeling for 475 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 6: these guys. It's time the Trevor's heard it. There was 476 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 6: doubt after that after last season. 477 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: If they're gonna sign to the long term deal, the 478 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 5: pieces are in place around you. There has to be 479 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 5: a feeling from Trevor's point of view. If not now, 480 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 5: when I mean, and that's way too extreme. He's got 481 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 5: a long career ahead of him, but I think he 482 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: does feel like, you know what, let's go. 483 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: When he said this is the best team he's played on, 484 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: so take advantage of it. 485 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 8: Let's do it. Stay with us on jag Zam. 486 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some of the bubble players on 487 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: the roster, who we think. 488 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 8: Is in and who's out. 489 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: Jacks fans, if you want customize Daguars furniture for your home, 490 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: check out zipcheer dot com to rouse all the customizable options. 491 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 8: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. 492 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 7: Mac has played extremely well over the last couple of 493 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 7: weeks and really, you know, has bought into what we do. 494 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 7: And you know he'll still revert back to his his 495 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 7: his patriot ways every now and then, and we got 496 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 7: to remind him he's in Jacksonville. 497 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: But he's done a good job. 498 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 7: He's done a good job managing and running the offense, 499 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 7: getting everybody involved. You know, he sees the field well, 500 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 7: throws a good ball, so you know, he's done a 501 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 7: good job. 502 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Ben Peter's been very happy with what he's seen from 503 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. We think he's fully solidified his spot on 504 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: this roster, but question marks elsewhere as we're trying to 505 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: figure things out. So we're going to quickly go over 506 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: some of our bubble players and talk about whether we 507 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: think they're in or out alive to cook someone we've 508 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: talked about up for possible wide receiver six, But do 509 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: we think he's in or out? 510 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: I think he's out. I think Tim Jones is your 511 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: six because I have a special teams a bill. 512 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I completely. 513 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 8: Do you think he makes a practice squad or no? 514 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he'll be on a practice squad. I 515 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: think the Jaguars will try to get him to their 516 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 5: practice squad. Sometimes if a guy has been around a 517 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: franchise for a year and gets another opportunity, they may see, Okay, 518 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 5: well I'm gonna go try it somewhere else. 519 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 6: But they like to have I. 520 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: Know they also like Austin Trammell. Seth Williams was on 521 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: the practice squad last year. They let him go yesterday, 522 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: so perhaps that freeze up for both of those guys 523 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: to be on the practice squad. 524 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: All right, John col Van Lamon, I don't have a 525 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: great feel for this one, but I think they will 526 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 5: try to keep enough offensive lineman to have him because 527 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 5: I think he's ready to play. I don't know that Foster, 528 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: who I think they need to keep I don't know 529 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: that he's gonna I don't know that they're gonna feel 530 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: like he's as ready right now. 531 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think Van LaMDA makes it. 532 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of flippantly we're like no last week, 533 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: and you asked if I thought that Cole Van Landon 534 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: would be at the top of the PFF. So I 535 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: went and did a little homework and talked to Jeff 536 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: Loghaman and Tony Biselli and a coach as well. 537 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 4: I think he makes it. 538 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: He apparently he has had a tremendous offseason and a 539 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: really good camp, came back strong, is varied, can play 540 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: inside or out, can play left or right. They are 541 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: really high on Cole Van Lannon around here, So I 542 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: say he makes it. 543 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 5: Well, this is a guy who's young, who they traded 544 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: for and who was worth a draft pick relatively recently. 545 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 6: So developed kudos. 546 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: Vel guy, Yeah to them and Phil Rauscher for taking 547 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: a young player who a lot of people just kind 548 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: of thought he's just a guy and turn him into 549 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: a guy who's more than a guy. You know, he 550 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: could be the next Tyler Shatley, that guy who shows 551 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: up here and then stays for ten years because he 552 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: can do a lot of different things. 553 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: I think that might be one of those position groups 554 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: as well where maybe you wanted to take nine and 555 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: then now Van Landon's your tenth guy, So that takes 556 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: someone away from you. 557 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: Because Foster's making this team. Yes, you can't expose a 558 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: fourth round pick and a young to tackle with his talent. 559 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 8: All right, John, how about tight ends? If uh Is 560 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 8: Daguar gonna make it, are they gonna take four? 561 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 5: I think so this is one of those where it 562 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 5: gets tough because he's an NFL tight end, he's an 563 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: NFL player. He's gonna he looks to me like guy's 564 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 5: gonna be lead in the league a long time. Do 565 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: they believe that if he's released they can get him 566 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 5: through to the practice squad and have him be a 567 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: guy that is a I call him lever guys. 568 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 6: You can bring him up there around. I kind of 569 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 6: think they keep four tight ends. 570 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think they used him in the backfield 571 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: in Atlanta a couple of times, kind of like they 572 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: use Brenton Strange. 573 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: So he's at least on the practice squad, but he'll 574 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: be here. 575 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 576 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: I think he's one of those guys that fans forget 577 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: and I'm guilty of it too because they're not catching passes. 578 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 5: But he's a good player for what they need him 579 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: to do, and a tight end, much like Luke Ferrell, 580 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: can get lost in conversations because they don't have catches, 581 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 5: but be very valuable to the team. 582 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: Yes, and sometimes good when you don't hear about them 583 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: because it thinks they're throwing and just doing their job. 584 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: Let's look at the defensive line. Tyler Lacy secondor player. 585 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: They love him, but that's a crowded group. And if 586 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about taking a spot over for offensive line, 587 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at the defensive line. 588 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 8: Is there enough spots for everybody there? 589 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: I I wouldn't surprise me if they keep ten there 590 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: as well. Because Ryan Nielsen has said repeatedly that he's 591 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: gonna bring guys in in waves. It doesn't matter. The 592 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: starter is only the starter for the first play of 593 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: the game. According to Nielsen, he wants to do things. 594 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: Lacey absolutely is here. 595 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was better last year than people thought for 596 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 5: a defensive interior lineman relatively low drafted. He's good to 597 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: be getting snaps as a rookie like that. I think 598 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: he's definitely here and I think he's gonna. 599 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: Matter, and I think both the rookies from LSU make 600 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: it as well. 601 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: Yes, I think there's a focus on the younger players 602 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: that they're developing themselves. We saw Trevis Gibson traded earlier 603 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: today to the Seahawks. 604 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 8: That frees up a spot. 605 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: Obviously talent talented in camp, but if they're focusing more 606 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: on the younger they're guys absolutely, and the guys they 607 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: drafted all right. Final guy I got for you. I'm 608 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: not sure if he's a full bubble guy, but what 609 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: this means for the group as a whole. DeAndre Prince, 610 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: who's had a great camp. I know he's one of 611 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: your favorites, Brian. 612 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 3: I just I love the kid, his confidence, his belief, 613 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: and he's made plays both on the practice field and 614 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: on the game field. Kay, you talked to him when 615 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: he first showed up, right, and John you've talked to 616 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: him as well. When you look at this guy, he 617 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: just looks like an NFL corner. He's got the broad 618 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: shoulders and the long arms, and he's got what you 619 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: want plus the mindset to go with it. 620 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 4: He makes this team. 621 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they like their young corners. They've been 622 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 5: trying to draft that for the last couple of years 623 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 5: and get better, faster, younger. 624 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 6: There. I think they've done it. He's on the team, 625 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 6: Jarhan Jones obviously, and Montera Brown. 626 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about Christian braswell? Right, I mean I wonder 627 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: if they've got enough room for all these young corners, 628 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 3: and if Montera Brown it might not be on the 629 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: bubble practice squad. 630 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, those will be the questions you draft and 631 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: develop now, so you got to stick with the young 632 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: guys for sure. 633 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 8: We'll keep an eye on things. 634 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Cut Down Day is tomorrow at four pm, and then 635 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: next week regular season week one. 636 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 8: So we're very excited. Enjoy your week. We'll see you 637 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 8: next week and cut 638 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Down to date is tomorrow at four pm.